How To Spot: An Original Jaguar E-Type
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This 1965 Jaguar XKE is a very special car. Hidden away since 1977, it was resurrected in early 2018 and put back on the road in outstandingly original condition.
One family, original paint, original interior and only 25,282 miles from new means that this car is a shining beacon of originality. Join LBI Limited founder Andrew Mastin as he guides you through the car and shows you what to look for when determining the originality of a Jaguar XKE.
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The car is special, but it was the narrator who pointed all these things out that made this video so enthralling to watch and to listen. Thank you.
What an amazing car, and a great presentation. I'm from London and have owned E-types since1986 so this E-Type in time warp condition is so fascinating.
Thank you for the kind response!
All 4.2L Series 1 E-types with covered headlights were factory finished with Posi or Phillips head screws, not slots screws as seen on this 1965 model. Slot screws were used only on 3.8 models until late in their production run. The shift lever should have the black "Q" ball, not the Jaguar motif, after-market one as seen here. Amco bars were not offered by the factory as an official accessory. They were either after-market additions by the owner or offered and installed as additional profit items by dealers.
This car is an absolute gem. Ive seen motorcycles in similar condition and some genius decides to "restore" and wipe away originality with shiny paint and powder coat. The bike world needs to catch up with the car world.
Fantastic tour of a beautiful example, thanks
My uncle worked at Jaguar, Browns lane, Coventry in the 1950s and 60s so could well have had a hand in this particular car.
Thanks for sharing. My gdad has a red e-type in a container, can't wait to see it.
Brilliant presentation (the host took his time in explaining stuff). Excellent production. Love the ambient music. I learned a lot of valuable things about the XKE jag. Went for my first local classic Jag event in Illinois last August. Just subscribed.
Thank you very much for the positive feedback! We intend to do more informative videos like this with the cars we have so stay tuned!
Beautiful ❤️
Very well done! I love the originality of this primrose car. Great clean crisp lines and spotwelds. I had no idea the 1965 convertible tops/hoods were fabric/canvas. Added this to my Essential E-Type playlist.
Thank you for the compliments and the addition to your playlist!
As a former owner of a 63 XKE Roaster the 67 here was the last year of of toggle switches. Remember XKE's don't have front coil springs. The shocks are your suspension and when they go you feel like your on a bowl of jello. Be sure to replace the front shocks with the best you money can buy.
The XKe's may not have front coil springs but the shocks are certainly not your suspension! Instead of coil springs they have torsion bars (which are springs but which act in torsion) so if your shocks go the car acts no differently than a car with coil springs!
Nice video.
Thank you! Stay tuned for more informative videos of this nature!
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they even want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to only 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime.
Thanks for sharing this video....very informative. I have a 1965 E Type Coupe that is very original with the exception of vinyl seats and some paintwork. After viewing your video, I immediately went out to check out my E Type and was pleased to find many of the same details you covered. My car also has the shrunken rubber around the chrome fittings, pencilled body # on the firewall, the aligned screws on the defrost vents, the gold tint on the spare wheel, and the "non gold" engine number on the head. My seat belt anchors also have the lead tags. On closer inspection, the tags have "Jaguar" on one side and what looks like a part number on the other side. All the letters on the tags are raised which makes me think they were "stamped" by the tool that was used to crimp the lead on the wires. I was very fortunate to meet the original owner of my E Type several years ago and he graciously shared so many stories about the car that are all now part of the history of this E Type. I constantly go back and forth over whether to do a restoration on the car or leave it in its current original, albeit somewhat aged state. Watching your video makes me feel I should leave it as is. Thanks, again.
We would certainly recommend leaving it. After all, they are only original once! It sounds like you have a very nice car on your hands. We are very glad the video helped you learn a bit more about it!
Nice to see cars in this condition, but I do not agree with the hype that, (Kind of implied) that its ''regarded as more Valuable / prefered' to have in this condition, agreed that its wonderful that the owner kept it in good shape for so long but the imperfections I do not regard as a pride of ownership especially to the next owner who has to live and deal with them,, just give a thought to the owners of these cars that have spent fortunes and years of blood sweat and tears in restoring these to concourse condition, every single nut and bolt being correct down to the labels and even correct materials, its a pain I cannot express in words, I know because this is what i do for a living for the last 43 years, For a car to be absolutely Concourse you cannot begin to imagine the amount of time effort and money it swallows, grounds for Divorce etc, I noticed he does not mention the amount of cash they are asking for this particular car, but also in the video car is not started up to hear and see it running ! but only those who have been down this road will understand what i am saying.regards to all,
(we are only the present guardians of these machines until our time is up and passed on to the next guardian).
Thats the beauty of this hobby though, theres plenty of different cars for different opinions. The imperfections are not necessarily "pride of ownership" but rather bits of the cars history that tell a story. We are very familiar with both the restored side of these cars as well as the original side and both have their places at certain times etc. Restored XKE's are a dime a dozen and as you know there is an entire industry dedicated to the restoration of these and similar cars, but once you restore a car you wipe away all those little imperfections that tell the story of the car. This car is important because somebody made the decision to live with those imperfections rather than wiping them away, starting clean, and erasing the story that this car tells. While it is certainly not for everyone, there are plenty of people out there that value the imperfections and the story they tell. We did not start the car to hear it running as that was not the point of the video but rest assured it ran and drove well, and the new owner is very happy with it.
Väldens Finaste bil 1967 Jaguar E type 4.2 bästa årsmodel perfekt på alla sätt tack Jaguar💗♥♥
Who needs a DeLorean for a time machine? Thanks for a fascinating tour.
There is a concern about the integrity of rubber/plastic pipes, hydraulics, &c. though. They do lose their plasticity and crack over time. Not funny if it's a hydraulic line that you've just asked to transmit some pressure, or an electrical connection that suddenly isn't insulated.
Thank you for watching! Yes, that is a valid concern. All of the important rubber and plastic components were replaced especially the items that would directly impact the safety
of the car.
LBI Limited The original seat belts are worthless as far as safety is concerned. I would guess that if the car were to be driven, the old belts could be kept in storage. But new belts would be a must for safety reasons if the car was to be used on the road.
This car SOLD after they put 20 G's into it to gussy it up, how much do you think they got for this crusty patina monster??and don't forget there pushing it's SMELLYNESS as a selling point..
Jealous?
Hat Tip to the 14 foot tall camera man.
made in england and not china is a good clue you have a jaguar..and not a jagwire.
Really nice car, great video. I have a 73 xj6, but I really want a E Type.
Learn how to pronounce "Triplex".
My ultimate car still, especially in Coupe form. But the roadster looks stunning and original as you say re the very salient points you mention. Primrose always suited the E-Type.
love it
Car # 1E10310. $180,000 was the asking price. The poor old fella who sold his car probably did so for peanuts. $25-$35k was probably the figure. Guaranteed that the buyer strategy used on him is the exact opposite of the pitch we see here. I've never seen a better job of virtuous sins being sold with so much sincerity.
Your assumptions are incorrect. We sold this car on consignment for the original owner's son. Both the seller and buyer are extremely happy!
Fabulous to see such a real time warp car. Nostalgia has, sadly, obscured the fact that these cars, like all cars before and since were built down to a price as can be seen from this example. A car like this, used every day, especially on UK roads with more than 30,000 miles on the clock would be very tired indeed and by (say) 1969 in the UK would probably sell for about £800. Happy days!
Well done video, thanks. My 1968 Pale Primrose Yellow OTS E Type has had a number of changes to it since it has been driven a bunch. Working on it the last 35 years & each time I fire it up it's exciting. I did learn a few things watching your video so thanks for that.
Thank you very much for the feedback, it is much appreciated. Enjoy yours! They are special cars.
This a commercial, complete with clickbait title. What’s more, it is flawed.
When checking an E-Type’s nose, forget the surface dents. Open the bonnet and inspect the inside of the nose for signs of collision damage. Many times these cars were backed into by people who didn’t see them, resulting in a badly crushed nose, and some were repaired on the cheap.
That suggestion is usable and gives both of us the excuse to terminate this extended commercial.
Being an E Type owner I love the video, but that constant music is very annoying.
The first thing you want to check is does it start? If it starts and runs reasonably well it's not an original! (just kidding, but just barely)
I'll never get the fascination with original AS IN SHABBY condition. Old is old. Worn is worn. Unsightly is unsightly. With that philosophy would this guy be more in love if the seats were totally original and ripped to shreds? If this car is in this shape from being 50 years old, does that mean in another 50 years when it's totally rusted out it's even better? Original means "as new from factory" and not beat to shit. You can certainly be excited if this car was really original. Who wouldn't be? What moron made up the rule that says just because nobody has bothered to keep the car up that it's a great thing? I've owned two E-types and both were immaculately maintained but not "original". I drove both cars all the time and took excellent care of each one so when I sold them, they actually did look new. This Jag is a used Jag showing signs of age and driving it in such poor condition would not be fun. It would be embarrassing. Replace the carpet. Replace the seat covers. Fix the damn thing up so it looks great...like a great car should look. Don't brag that your ripped up carpets are original. They were original for about five minutes and after that...they were used.
@fontking1a the beautiful thing about the automotive world is that there are no right answers when it comes down to condition, only opinions. Your more than welcome to have your restored E-type that looks like every other one out there. It is still a beautiful car but we'll take the shabby original car with the flaws any day of the week!
Thank You, Sir, very enjoyable. From the UK
Great car and well made video. AMCO bumper bars were not factory but a dealer option which most buyers took advantage of. Curious to know if this car had the funky front license plate attach fixture that rotates as you raise the hood.
Very good point about the AMCO bars. We personally aren't fans of them but since they survived on the car for so long, we couldn't remove them! And the front license plate bracket on this car is just the standard fixed one, no fancying rotating here!
@@LBILimited AT 18:36 it appears that it has the rotating type plate mount. The rod at the bottom of the mount facing towards the rear of the car is the actuator for the tilt assembly.
@Skrutinizr you are right, living up to your name! That was my mistake, its definitely there. We never tried to rotate it. We'll have to give it a try.
It’s a Jag!!! What would you expect!? Beautiful
Have to stop watching! The daft music is to blame. 5 minutes of e type was good though.
Why do Americans pronounce "Jaguar" as "Jagwah"?
he should sell expensive bottle of vines for rich people in NY... good marketer
haha thank you for the feedback. We'll have to ponder it for a next business venture. Fine wine and great cars...could go together nicely!
I have a question. Why did they use wire wheels? Looks, are they lighter, perform better or some other reason?
How much is this car worth?
Thank you, very carefully done. Not in the market but learned a lot. ALWAYS HAVE ADMIRED THE XKE. YOU DIDNT REMARK AS TO E TYPE OR NORTH AMERICA XKE? LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE JAGUAR CAMEOS.
Glad you liked it!
This was one Fantastic Informative Video and the Gentleman going thru the Car was as Real as the Car itself, Thanks Much, Love it. and would Love one done on 72 Coupe.
Thank you so much for the feedback. We will absolutely do one on a Series II Coupe when we can find an original example such as this. It may take a while!
Can you at least pronounce Jaguar correctly? 🤨 smh
Don't you think it might sound a bit weird if you heard an American say JAWG YOU ARE...??
I'd love to find out about my Jag Series1 which was in California from new 1965 till 1986 with the registration 'SLY 519' I have the photo's but every owner has hit brick walls as to who owned the saucy little lady.. Big questions any answers??
That will be a tough one to track down!
If it's all original where is the tool kit?....surprisingly the spark plug wires are not original
It is all original but unfortunately, the tool kit went missing at some point. We would bet that it is still in the garage this car sat in since 1977. Yes, spark plugs wires are not original though we have the Champion bowties in the box of original parts that comes with the car!
Thank you for the lesson in automotive archaeology. Your honesty and enthusiasm for the marque shines through. Hope this car goes to a good home that cherishes her!
It has gone to a new home and the new owner is driving and preserving it!
Check the ground under it. Oil? Genuine!
I used to have a 68 the same colour as this one. Wish I still had it.
It's a Jaguar,not a Jagwire.🤣🤣🤣
Way way, ahead of its time for 1964
YES!
I prefer a well-restored car i,m afraid to say.
Trop belle , une pureté de ligne rarement atteinte même 60 ans après
Thanks.I really enjoyed that .
Why is he not looking at the camera?
Is the Series 1,5 good infest?
It may be the hallmark of an owner who loves his jag, but by the condition of the car it is also the hallmark of an owner who could not keep the car in good repair and therefor all systems should be suspected to be neglected and in need of restoration. I own a 66 coupe since 1972 and know this from experience. Buyer, do your research before purchase, these e types are not Cheap to repair.
Norman Grimm 1936 - 2014 found some of his story online... like you said , real car, real person. I am sure he would be happy to see you showing his car :)
All right. You got me with the screws. I thought I paid attention to detail but that's on a whole 'nuther level.
One time I took my Stratocaster to the shop for some maintenance. I am no mechanic nor much of a handyman and she had to be taken apart - a task I'd rather avoid doing myself whenever I can. While dropping it off I had requested that the luthier put aside and the slightly rusted, old pick guard screws that came from the factory. He obliged and I later put them back in myself. Why? I truly don't have a good answer other than it's just what I wanted. I didn't think to line them up or anything. And it surely doesn't effect the value or sound or playability of the guitar. That was over 20 years ago now and I know my baby is still all original. Maybe that's enough?
Fantastic, but how much did it sell for.i drove an xk140 in new Zealand but thi is, and will always be my favourite car of all time.
I owned a 1968 with the same color and spec . Got it 1972 and sold it 2016
Sounds Fabulous!
Very good….
Shame about the dealer installed arial
Who says money can't buy happiness! Enzo Ferrari was right. It is the beautiful car ever built!
Hi, Do you think the "gold" colour on the spare wheel is a coating ? Rather like dic rotors are coated to preserve the surface .
Just a thought
That could certainly be it as well, excellent observation. Although the surface consistency does not look like a coating. We will have to do some more research and confirm what it is exactly. Thanks for watching!
@@LBILimited They were coated, although I'm not sure with what. When cleaned with solvent, the discoloration comes off. I've still for the original spare from my 71 XKE and it also has that odd tint. It's supposed to protect from corrosion while in the boot.
Thanks again for the info, makes complete sense that they would coat them. I wonder what the original coating was?
Does anybody know what years and models did these oval shaped bumpers were installed? Thanks.
I’m so glad I watched this!! Detective work is impeccable!!
Fantastic video for anyone looking for that right spec e type.... well done guys...
super well produced as usual! very interesting stuff andrew. thanks
Original air in the spare tyre too 🤔
Yes!
Never will understand the term "as it was when it left the factory". This car was and is a sloppy mess. I understand most people wouldn't touch it and they honestly believe "original" is great. Not me. If this were my car, I'd want it as perfect as possible in every way. If it had torn weatherstripping with excess glue protruding all over the place, I'd get rid of the old and install the new with care. If the paint job was all scratched, I'd repaint it. If the upholstery was torn, ripped and ragged, it too would be replaced. I don't necessarily want a trailer queen but I do want a car to drive and a car that looks well taken care of. Screw original. It's a friggin' car not a museum piece.
Louis...please don't ruin original cars just because they aren't your style. There are plenty of cars out there that have been already restored once that you can re-restore should you desire. The beauty about classic cars is that there is a condition for everyones taste. If you don't like or understand original cars, thats OK, it just means there is one less person competing to own these cool pieces of history. Just be yourself and drive what you like, don't presume that because you don't like it that it's wrong.
did you sell this etype ?
It sold on Thursday! Going to a great new home with an enthusiast who will continue to preserve it
Very informative!
Thank you!
Does it run?
Yes, very well! Original cars have a certain feel, ride quality and rigidity to them that restored cars lack! Feels like stepping back into 1965.
Love the primrose yellow.
Love your presentation and history on the etype
Thank you for watching!
Great stuff !
A very nice E Type, pity it's a left hand drive, no good here in the Uk,
Piloting a left hand drive car isn't as exciting in the UK as piloting a right hand drive car here in the states? lol Whenever we have a right hand drive car people are always fascinated and want to know more about how you can drive from the right side of the car. We always tell them its easy!
I do get really fed up at looking at RE Shells,to see a genuine jaguar with some surface rust is very rare today,very nice video thank you.
Great vid.
Backround music 👎🏻💩junked video
Understandable, we were going back and forth on the music and determined that we felt it did not take away from the video. To each their own however. Feedback noted.
The first two years of Jaguar XKEs were converted D-type Les Mans racers. My '62 didn't have glass over the
headlights. The Queen of England asked Jaguar to make an expensive sports car, saying she would pay for a new factory, and part of the deal was Jaguar selling the first two years overseas as exports.
I don't care how you intend to drive, but please, buy some radial Michelin racing tires so they can save your life.
All E-types had covered headlights until Jan '67. The first 2 years were not converted D-types, the structure of the D is entirely different, rear axle is live and engine frames are tubular, not at all the exact design of the E-type. The E was first shown in '61 in Geneva, and those 2 cars were quickly cobbled together at the factory not D-types in any respect.
@@paulspurlock2420! Are you willing to agree that Jaguar XKEs were made for two years before their factory was finished?
In the middle of the instrument panel, or dashboard, there was a hinged panel, held up by two big knobs with ridges for sure grip. Undo those knobs and the panel fell down, where all the fuses could be replaced while you drove. I could scan my blue Jaguar embroidered logo from a yellow racing shirt and show you, if UA-cam let me.
@@johnwattdotca There were prototypes as early as sometime in '58 referred to as E1A and E2A. E2A was raced at Le Mans but the first real E-type "prototype" was not completed until November '60. That was car 77RW it was a press car and shown in Geneva in March '61. The second prototype was 9600HP, now owned by Philip Porter. Those cars were hand built and still undergoing testing at the time. On Jan 5, 1961 a document was released within Jaguar titled "Technical specification of the Jaguar E-Type" the spec to build the car with, no production cars had yet been built. Regarding the drop down panel, even the saloons had them, I have two of them on the shelf.
@@paulspurlock2420! Master mechanic Paul Spurlock! I really enjoy your depth of knowledge, learning after all these years.
Here's an XKE trick. I would be idling along in third gear, going 30 mph on a 30 mph road, and when I say idling, that's not having a foot on the gas pedal. With a finger in a hole in the steering wheel, I would shift into first and slam the pedal down. I warned people, but everyone always slammed their head against the window with my head in their shoulder. The car would pull a spinning u-turn and be going back in the opposite lane.
I only ever lit it up from a standing start as a drag racer once. Both tires left a black stripe for over two hundred feet, shifting from first to second but I lost it shifting to third. I climbed the outside stairs at the new Skylon in Niagara Falls and spun around, burning rubber like a cloud, outside on the main patio, everyone inside watching. No-one phoned the police. I could go 160 mph and take my hands off the wheel for a long while. I'm still emotional about that car. I could work on it. It was like a big model funny car, and it didn't drip oil.
@@johnwattdotca Yes a whole bunch of people do not understand today the torque those big long stroke engines had. Everyone talks about horsepower but its torque that moves you especially at low RPM and the XK motor had it.
Easiest way to know if it’s real is to see if it’s leaving oil stains in the garage. If there’s not oil under it, there ain’t oil in it.
Fabulous video !!! I'm a Chevy guy at heart but I LOVE ALL cars . I just picked up a 1966 XKE 4.2 Roadster , BARN FIND !!! It literally has 1/4 " of DUST on it . It sat for about 15 to 20 years that I know of and more from the original owner . My question , It needs headlights and housing , chrome bumpers ,carpets , etc. Where do you recommend getting these items ? What is a reputable company to deal with for Jaguar ? I would LOVE to get this thing running ... Thank you for any information that you may have : )
Thank you for commenting! Sounds like an amazing find...should you ever decide to sell, we would 100% be interested even if it is a total project car. You can find many parts at SNG Barrett, XKs Unlimited, and going to jaguar/British car swap meets. Shoot us a message and let's talk more! Info@lbilimited.com
Bravo!