For myself, when I'm going to be around people, I carry 9mm. When I'm on the land or in the woods, I carry 10mm. Love them both. Don't intend to change.
10mm has been around a long time. I own many 10mm pistols and love them. For me, 9mm is too small and .45ACP is too big. 10mm is just right, and more powerful.
@Living in North Carolina! Right on, and thanks for your service. I bought a few .40S&W pistols with polymer frames years ago. When people say .40S&W is a "snappy" round, they aren't kidding. The size of the round is good, but firing .40S&W rounds in lightweight polymer frame pistols is a nightmare for average-size people. I sold mine. If I could have found high quality .40S&W pistols with steel frames, weighing over 40 oz., I would have bought them, but I couldn't. 10mm is the best choice all-around. However, full-size 10mm pistols need steel frames, and weigh 40-45 oz. I'm surprised Sig built the new P320-X10 with a polymer frame, weighing only 33 oz. Let's ask Sig to offer a full-size, striker-fired, high-capacity 10mm Legion with a steel frame or TXG tungsten-infused grip module like the P320-X5 Legion, creating a weight of 43.5 oz.
As one of the 3 women who regularly watch this channel, I would give one to my husband and one to my father so they would finally have something in common. My dad would use it for his 1911s and my husband would use it to pack ammo or use it as his luggage when we visit his parents. The x ten I would like for me!
Finally! I'm so glad this is a thing. I'm also glad that Sig is transitioning away from an optics system where you have to remove your rear sights on their newer firearms.
Props to a manufacturer that will just outright say "Yes" when asked if they're gonna deliver a certain product. Can someone ask the folk at FN if they're gonna give us a 509 in 10mm? That's really what I want.
@@arthurillusion well given the fact that was around the time they were dealing with the drop accidental discharges, I'm not surprised they said no. They had bigger problems to deal with.
As a retired Army veteran I have stayed active in the shooting community. 5.11 equipment and attire have been my go to standard. Quality made and common sense design keeps it in high demand and usage. It’s what I recommend to my sons, bother and nephew as EDC. Keep up the great work and support of LEOs, military and average prepared community. Stay safe , stay strong.
More 10mm! It can be loaded weak to be like a .40S&W for personal defense, loaded hot with penetrators for bear country, loaded heavy with 220gr for subsonics, and loaded hot and light out of a 16” barrel can reach 2,800fps. It checks all the boxes within 150 yards. Just need more manufacturing of it.
I've been a 10mm junkie for 15 years. A first gen G20 was my first Glock. I built an AR 10mm that I am taking on a hog hunt as well as a P80 with a 6" slide and jokingly call it my howitzer. Been looking at a revolver in 10 to round out the collection. Thanks for another great review
@@KENAHIGHLANDER My copy doesn't have a loose slide, but it did break (and really snapped) the screws holding the green dot and now the firearm is at S&W. Not sure what they are going to do.
Break-in periods are such a bullshit myth and excuse. They apply to tight tolerance metal on metal pistols that are typically overpriced. Poly frames should run like a raped ape up a tree. Never had a break-in period or jam with my G40.
I think the closest comparison on the market is probably the M&P 2.0 10mm with the 4.6" barrel. Similar size and weight, same capacity, both come with optics cuts. I got one a few months back and it's been great, however most of my carry guns are Sigs, so I'll probably end up with one of these as well eventually.
@@dktk4136 Agreed. Apparently the 45 mags work with 10mm, but there's no way I'm buying magazines that "kind of work" specifically for the wrong gun. I understand that the first batch needed to go with the guns themselves, but it's pretty silly that they can't pump out some stamped sheetmetal and bits of plastic that they've already made the tooling for.
@@dktk4136 My take was that if I carry it, it'll be on a chest rig while hiking/hunting. If I have enough time to dump 31 rounds and change mags twice, I probably could've just casually walked away from the bear/moose at that point lol. It's still pretty dumb, though; I'm sure lots of people are interested in using it as a duty gun or for edc.
@@AbstractPragmatism I like to have extra mags for the range and to cycle out use. If I just get one that's defective and can replace it now I only have two.
Having shot the 10mm in various configurations and manufacturers the heavier the gun the more pleasant it is to shoot. The S&W 10 series always seemed the best but with only a 9 round capacity. Sig should offer the infused frame. Very smart to design this pistol with a smaller grip circumference than the Glock - which seems to be made for only those with the biggest hands.
What I've noticed, having shot heavy, all steel, 10mm pistols and some polymer pistols is that heavy steel isn't necessarily that much 'better.' The recoil impulse with a polymer frame feels different than a steel frame, and sure you can go too light and then pay for it with painful recoil, but a 30 oz. polymer frame, full-size 10mm is not really that bad to shoot at all, even with full power loads. The people who seem to freak out about how "powerful" 10mm loads feel are often people who shoot a lot of 9mm and not much else. I've seen this across multiple reviews of 10mm pistols - you can usually tell the reviewers that are accustomed to shooting more powerful calibers, and the people who don't.
@@bsmithhammer That's been my experience as well. Subjective experience of recoil has more to do with technique than with mass. I'd been shooting a 1911 for years before I knew that most people think of it as having hard recoil. It's not that I don't notice some firearms recoil more than others, it's just that with good technique I don't find it hard to manage.
@@bsmithhammer People tend to overlook that the older metal frame pistols had a higher bore axis, than the latest polymer frame designs so it's definitely not just about weight. I'm someone who likes both so I don't have a dog in the fight but I like to appreciate things for what they are.
Great video. I been using Sig Sauer P 220 and 320 since my Marine Corps days 1987 to 1991. I carried the 45 ACP in the Marines and Law Enforcement for 26 be years. Great weapons with no problems. I would love to get the X20. I love 10mms.
Guess he missed the S&W mp 2 in 10 that was released a few months back. They both look like amazing options. One comes with night sights the other suppressor height for optic cowitness, both have amazing grips and ergos
Great review of the Sig 320. My Father has always been the “over protector”, only as I saw it as a young buck. Now with my family, it is my upmost duty to provide that covering. I’ve just started my firearm journey with M&P 9mm EDC (the son), and was very interesting in a 10mm (the dad). Perfect companion just like my Father and I. Hitting the range with matching bags having the necessary gear to train hard, keeps us well prepared to protect this house! Thanks guys!
Sig has been making 10mm in their P220 all state frame! I’d love to pickup a P320 in 10mm as I have the 357 Sig with the 40 barrel and also the 9mm conversion kit. Sig is good and their customer service is the best!
I had a P220 in 10mm...it's a big heavy gun with a 5" barrel. I would have preferred a P220 with a standard length barrel. It was a fine shooter, but it didn't fit any of my Sig holsters and it became a safe queen I didn't really want to keep.
@@r1pbuck You have to get the holster that goes on your thigh! It is quite comfortable and easy reach and aiming . They are heavy but oh how they are accurate in fact all my 220’s are very accurate!
I've been a huge 5.11 fan. I'm pretty sure they came out the year I graduated from high school in 2003. My older brother is a former LEO that started wearing 5.11 clothing and footwear back then and he was the one that introduced me to 5.11. My brother would always give our dad his old 5.11 boots and our dad wore them until he passed away two years ago. He had one pair that he wore all the time that was well over 15 years old. My dad thought it was the coolest thing to wear those boots, I think it had to deal with the pride he had to see that his son was following in his footsteps(Our dad was a former LEO). My brother has taken our father's passing very hard. So, I got the idea to start hiking more together with our families and honor his memories by teaching our kids how to live off the land, just like our father taught us. Having a great backpack is a huge part of what we do, so I know that two loaded-down 5.11 bags would last a lifetime, just like the old 5.11 boots our dad wore. Who knows, maybe we will be able to pass down two awesome packs to our children some day.
Jeremy, thanks for taking the time to share this story with us. Congratulations, the gang at 5.11 appreciated it too. The packs are yours, just email me at james@tfb.tv and I'll get them to you.
I've been carrying a G29SF since 2007. I didn't really want a Glock, but HK didn't make a subcompact in 10mm. Considering how much bullet performance has advanced even in the last 15 years, I'm looking at moving to 9mm for carrying most of the year and carrying the 10 during the winter (when heavy clothing tends to mess with HP performance). If Sig releases a subcompact in 10, I'll definitely be standing in line to get one.
I’m glad 10mm is making a comeback, would consider getting a 10mm if sig puts out a compact. Also would mind getting that backpack and use as a range bag
I helped source a PTR 9ct, the mp5 clone, for my dad. For years when I was a kid he said he always wanted one, probably since he watched so much die hard. I even outfitted it with the collapsing brace and original plastic handguards. That MP5 would definitely go in the bag and my matching MP5K clone would definitely go in my match bag.
For the 5.11 bags, my dad would have his loaded up with a stapler, hand loaded .45ACP and .458 Socom as his range bag. Mine would be used as an everyday backpack with my glock/sig mags, snacks and electronics as a sustainment bag.
I've resisted the M&P 10mm waiting on Sig, glad I waited. Plus while this may not interest some people looks like this might be interchangeable with 45acp.
I have been waiting on the 10mm for this exact reason. I have a 320 Compact in .45, been holding out for the 10mm conversion kit for a couple years. MORE exciting is that maybe now there will be some freaking support for the "large frame" (for lack of a better word) 320!
Hey there, new subscriber here! I don't know how I'm just finding this channel, your production quality is top shelf. Also, I have become wary of other gun UA-camrs who seem to be cut from the same mold who: Present themselves as Ex "Special Operators" with requisite American Sniper/Zero Dark Thirty beards and ball caps, and most of these guys never served a day in their life! You are just a clean-cut, fit, and well-spoken guy who does all the research so we don't have to! I spent 23 years in the suck with 5 combat deployments and can tell you that Navy some Navy Seals are only allowed to have beards when they are actually downrange. No stateside beards allowed!
Great review as always! I hope they give the 10mm the compensator treatment like on the P365 Spectre Comp, just without the Spectre fluff, aka TiN Gold trigger and laser engraved stippling. With the way Sig has been going lately I would give it 6 months and we’ll have some more options.
Those backpacks are fantastic. My son will no doubt use it to store the emotional baggage that comes with holding the flashlight for his dad. 😁 Jokes aside, this is amazing bit of kit and I’m sure we could both use it to its fullest potential.
Sig does make another 10mm pistol, but not a polymer one. They have 4 different versions fo the sig P220 in 10mm now that are absolutely BEAUTIFUL! would love to see a review on them.
I finally broke down and got a “real” gun, according to my friends, which was a Sig P320 XCompact on Monday switching from Glock and of course it was well worth it. Totally a Sig fanboy now but I still can’t get rid of my Glock R. Lee Ermey t-shirt I’ve had for 10+ years.
Lol right? Everyone I talk to about getting a sig says "sorry. That's too rich for my blood." Until they shoot one, and then they understand why I am always hyping sig up as much as I do. My favorite is the P226, and people argue it is just "too heavy" and cumbersome. Yet the glock 17 I use for work feels almost no lighter or smaller in comparison minus the grip.
@@Jonah.the.moist.noodle Yeah, it definitely feels heavier but it is a good weight. Plus the ergonomics of it is far better. As far as price goes it was still under a $100 more for it then a Glock 19 through the law enforcement deal on both. Plus it came standard with night sights where Glock 19 that was in stock didn’t.
@@christianong32 lucky. A sig P226 is at a minimum of a $1200 here in alberta Canada. And that's for a stock base model one. Sig is one of the more gucci richy rich guns around here. But that's thanks to gun laws, and just that it isn't as well sought after as glock. Here
I remember when the 10mm was on life-support. All but dead.... Now it's one of the most popular calibers. Far more so then when it was introduced. Yes, the '90s are truly dead. *:'(*
Yeah and you rarely see it on the shelves and we're about to go through another gun/ammo shortage so if you don't already own 10mm guns and ammo I'd stay away
Including my father, my son, my grandson and myself - we'll find quite the assortment of things to carry around with that awesome 5.11 bag! Of course, the first thing I'm bringing is that awesome X-Ten from Sig!!!
I’ve had a G20 for a long time, but I’m definitely looking forward to getting a 10mm that fits my had a little better. The G20 is like holding a brick with a trigger.
Nah. I had mine stippled and it fits perfect. Stippling has been around for many years now. Cant use the brick excuse anymore...if you actually have one.
Right. I had the Glock G20, too. With a polymer frame and weight of only 30 oz., it was a nightmare to shoot, and I sold it. The new Sig P320-X10 is a step in the right direction, but it needs a steel frame or TXG tungsten-infused grip module to increase the weight to 43.5 oz.
Glad to see Sig expanding their 10mm line. It’s great to see the resurgence of the 10mm in the last 10 years or so. It really is a good cartridge. I use my G40 for hiking/backpacking/camping defense and someday I want to try it on TX hogs. My dad would likely put fly fishing or pheasant hunting gear in his 5.11 bag.
@@Goldenwithaleash yeah I've seen colts 10mm 1911 and the p220 in 10mm, but the steal frames are heavy. I'm definitely looking for something as small/lightweight as possible and hoping for at least 5+1 capacity. Carrying anything for 300+ mile backpacking trips becomes a chore real fast
@@JohnDoe-cq3ii hmmmm… Buffalo Bore makes a +P “Outdoorsmen” load in 9mm and .45acp and some of those Lehigh Extreme Penetrators are wicked. When I go on day hikes with my in-laws (not gun people) and need something concealable, I’ll carry my Glock 40MOS loaded with Underwood Extreme Penetrator 9mm. Just an thought.
My Dad passed in 2019, but he was a retired Marine (served in Vietnam and Desert Storm) and a pilot. In his bags he always carried sun glasses, flashlights (probably 3!), a pocket knife or two, over the counter meds, and snacks! Before, I always thought he packed too much, but I see how smart he was now. I know my brother (who is a father) and I could use these bags in our travels and be prepared like my Dad. Thank you for the opportunity.
Great review, so looking forward to getting a hold of one! Because fathers day was mentioned, this reminds me of my dad popping my gun experience cherry with the classic double pull on his old 12 gauge double barrel! Though I only have daughters, I did the same with them! At least it was low wall brass. If we are selected for the bag give away, I'd carry my shorty 50 beowolf and my oldest girl would carry extra mags and her art supplies!
I have the Glock 20C and let me tell you, it shoots straight and the recoil is very manageable. It's a great click/boom pistol and I carry it everywhere. I carry the pistol and 45 rounds whenever I am out of the house. That compensated barrel really does help with the muzzle flip and 2nd shot follow-up. I've never regretted carrying the 'big 10". I'm looking at the P320-XTEN now as another 10mm pistol to use as a carry weapon....
Me and my Dad just bought a Glock 20 and 30, so being this comes out the day after I am a little salty. But I did get a nice Glock and so did my Dad. The only thing I can think of that is more cool than a 10mm pistol, is hanging out with your Dad or grandfather at the range.
I really enjoy this firearm. I’ve been waiting for some time for Sig to get this thing out. As far as the bag, my father has passed , however I’m a retired police officer and my son is a Deputy Sheriff. In my bag would be a laptop, extra Sig and S&W mags. My extra firearm, a carry pack with knife and extra clothing as needed. My son would have a laptop, field gear, extra mags for both pistol and rifle. Binocular and other day to day stuff.
Regarding the 5.11 bag, my dad would definitely load his up with about 15 pre-loaded 1911 mags because he cannot be bothered to reload mags while on the range. One pocket would likely hold the box of .357 sig ammo that he bought because his internet skills are lacking and probably just saw .357 and ordered it. Owns multiple .357 magnums but no .357 sig gun.
My son would have his new Rock Island 1911 that was his collage graduation present to himself and I would have my all time favorite Sig 226 Legion SAO. I know this is for fathers day but thank you to all that serve, have served and most importantly gave all with Memorial day coming up.
Ive been a big fan in the past of the 10mm in bren-10(not so much) and the in 92 of the G-20. I had 2 generations of the glock 20's. This is the second review of the x-10 ive watched and ive had the X-10 in my hands after owning and putting 18,000 rounds through my sig 320 X-5(non legion). It feels wonderful...
More than likely, my dad would use it as his range/car bag. he is just getting into the whole firearms industry due to the happenings going on in the country. I have recommended 5.11 products to him before and he already has his eyes on this bag I believe. Thank you for the comprehensive review of the new sig as always man. Always a great time watching your content
Looks like Sig hit another home run with this! My dad likes to travel a lot, so he would likely use this bag for trips. He’ll be going on a mission trip soon as a medical professional to help others in need. I’m sure this bag would be very useful for that.
Tanfoglio makes a great polymer framed full size 10mm. Sweet shooter, very accurate, and not expensive. Also does not have the unsupported chamber of the glock!
Our department loves 5.11 products. Ever since they opened a store in Montgomery AL it’s made it so much easier to get your hands on their products. Dad needs a bad with a convenient concealed carry pouch. Love my rush 72 but need a smaller pack to match with him.
Wow, as a Sig fan I love the new addition. Been looking for a 10 but the Glock just doesn't do it for me. This is great. As for the 5.11 by grandson and I shoot cowboy action and wild bunch. I can see us loading this bag up with all of the goodies needed for a days competition.
What don't you like about the Glock, just curious. I have a Glock 20 and it's a fantastic gun to shoot. It's a big gun, but I have big hands so it works great.
I was very surprised by the MSRP on the X-Ten. I was expecting a price tage of at least 1k. It seems Sig really knocked it out of the park with this one. Who knows, maybe Dad & I could carry this together in a matching set of 5.11 Rush 24 Backpacks in the near future? ;)
The first gen Sigs are cheaper because you’re their beta-tester. By the time they get it right, the prices are much higher. They usually have everything sorted out about 36 months after initial release.
That rush 24 bag looks awesome. My dad would probably load it up with a pair of white New Balances, some jeans from the hardware store, his tattered National WWII Museum hat, some sunscreen, and his android phone charger.
Glad to see another firearm in the "right" caliber. I have carried a Grand Power P40 10mm since they came out and I don't know of any other 10mm that shoots as well. Would love to see a comparison video of the Sig 10mm against the GP P40L to see your thoughts.
First, I'm actually pretty impressed at Sig's 10mm offering for its price point! I've been mulling over a Ruger, Colt Delta Elite, or a cheaper Rock Island for a hunting handgun. This presents another favorable option! As for what my Dad and I would pack in a 5.11? Hunting and camping gear! Obviously we'd have our spare mags and ammo - but all the essentials too! Toilet paper, trauma kits, food, and BUG SPRAY!
I have the rock island double stack 1911 in 10MM and it’s been fantastic for me, reliable for sure. The biggest problem is the weight, which is why I’m looking for a polymer option.
@@stump3514 thanks for the input! I'm actually pretty comfortable with heavier handguns. But the polymer might be able to handle conditioning a bit better. What do you make of your RIA'S reliability?
@@nytramtehgreat9562 it’s been good, I don’t have a ton of rounds through it (200-300) rounds but it hasn’t jammed on me once yet. It rolled down a step hill with me outside my holster for about 50 yards and lives in an extremely dusty environment. I make sure to clean it after every hunting trip I take it on because of the dust. The thing throws brass 10 yards or so on ejection.
I'm definitely going to have to look at this Sig as my all around side carry while out hunting! Love the adaptability of 10mm and S&W 40 to burn, as well as that awesome P320 versatility! BTW, probably to late but, would love to share some bags with my daughter, why well first were a generational military family. And she's a unique one...Special Forces! Go SIG!
1:02 I was today years old that I learned of the Miami shooting back in 86’. I watched a 49min special here in UA-cam & now I want this sig p320 10mm and a mini 14
5.11 makes great gear. Since I have 2 sons, I’m not keeping one of the bags, they each get one, fill it with essentials for emergencies (water, shelter, fire, med kit, etc) and put one in each of their cars. To honor James, I’ll put a smedium 5.11 t-shirt in. If they want short shorts, they are on their own for those!
Another great video review as usual. I’ve had the 10mm bug for a long time. Interestingly my G29 broke its factory recoil spring guide rod…only Glock in my collection that failed. I also love my G20 with a 6” Storm Lake barrel and Bo Mar target sights. Glad to see Sig market this new 10mm. Perhaps there’s another 10mm in my future. Thanks for your excellent review.
I have to say Sig has won me over not because I wanted them too, they just keep making amazing guns. Every one I pick up fits me like a handshake and is amazingly accurate. Great channel and content that I stumbled on today. You just picked up another subscriber.
511, sounds like a great bag. The things my dad typically carries when he goes out to hike, well, is just about everything he can stuff in there. First aid pack, fixed blade knife, fire starting essentials, water, water purification, snacks, a compact fishing rod and light tackle, an emergency blanket and tent...He's ready for just about anything which is smart if you ask me!
My father, 72. Carried a fanny pack every day since I can remember! It was quite embarrassing as a child. I showed him a 5.11 Daily Deploy recently, and he loved it. The fanny pack literally got left in the store. I'm sure he'd love the Rush pack as well! I know I would.
I love the Sig P- pistols but I have been resisting the 320 so far. I think this is going to tip me over the edge. I question the practice of _not_ cleaning and lubing a new gun before testing it. Seems to me that a clean gun eliminates the possible variable of dirt/grease etc. as it comes out of the box. I _always_ clean and lube a new gun before firing it.
Because I'm a partner at a law firm and I frankly just don't have time to break down and clean every gun before we hit the range. We filmed 7 in one day on this shoot. I agree with you though, I should do that. I just don't/can't.
@@tfbtv there’s no problem with letting them get dirty. To each their own. I would just never do that. And in my opinion if I were to see someone have problems with an overly dirty gun (within reason) I wouldn’t count that against it
There have been two new guns in the household lately. They did not arrive oiled. They're coated with an oil like preservative. Best clean that shit off.
Very well described and demonstrated. Thanks, buddy. I own many 10mm pistols, most of which have steel frames and weigh 40-45 oz. When I saw that the new Sig 10mm weighed only 33 oz., I was concerned about recoil discomfort and inaccuracy. Apparently, however, it feels good and performs well. I wish Sig had given it a steel frame, but I'll buy it and try it. Fully loaded, it would weigh 43 oz., which is a weight I prefer. Also, my gunsmith can install some weight in the grip.
It would be the perfect bag to take my son who's 10 and just got his first gun to the range as well as outdoors .I'm excited my son finally came around helped build a few p80s and now wants to do 3 gun shooting. This bag would be perfect for father son outdoors hunting and range days
Ah, I called Range 54 here in Wichita KS and said I want a Sig 320 XTen! As far as 511, I have worn their products since 2008! Love all their gear! My dad is an avid hunter so I’m sure his backpack would include extra ammo for rifle and handgun, extra knife, cellphone and binos. I would have the same stuff along with a MRE so I could re-live my military days humping a pack!
That Sig looks absolutely amazing!! My dad is a locksmith, so I know for sure he would pack all his tools he uses when he’s out taking care of all his customers. The fact that he could also easily conceal his pistol in the pack would be a blessing for him!!
I'm not in the market for a 10mm, but your reviews are so F'ing good, honest, and entertaining, I had to watch the whole thing. This would be the 10mm I'd buy tho.
My dad was use that bag for work(laptop,5 in 1 screwdriver,ear pro,hard hat,snacks and battery bank)he currently use a backpack when he travels for work and would love an upgrade
Easy. Tell her that the scammers that are about to bombard these comments with "MESSAGE ME FOR FREE GUN!!!!!" are actually legit and you won it from a Nigerian Prince in the TFBTV comments.
This should be a good selling item for Sig, this was a decent review. I'd recommend that any 10MM ammo you're taking into big bear country be chronographed, 10MM ammo is notorious for being under loaded. The clubs current range master carries a 10MM, when loaded up properly it's a decent round, when it's not it's not very good. However 15 rounds of 10MM with max loads might be enough with an average Kodiak. Owning 9MM+P+, 357 SIG (full power), 45 Super, and having shot several 10MM handguns, I'd stick with 9MM+P or 357 Sig, for defense, faster and easier to hit with for more people. Having worked at regulated game farms and guiding in big bear country I'll stick to my 6 inch Model 29, 44 magnum, a 240 grain at 1,400 FPS is barely adequate as the bear get to 800+ pounds, then only because I carry a 450 magnum rifle. Unfortunately today you need a damn mortgage to buy a model 29.
For the 5.11 bags, my dad would use it as an all around bag; work, events and taking my niece everywhere. He's been carrying this small cheap sling everyday for 2 years and it goes everywhere with him. Dad is a DD 214 alumni, the guardian to my niece and so he'd be over the moon with this gift as this bag has more room and compartments for his outings! I would use this as a range bag as I'm not busy body like dear old dad. James, I'd been awaiting this review and as usual you dont disappoint! Thanks for always being so unbiased. Helps me with any of my purchases.
Rush 24 would be a great all around bag for camping, hiking, and bug out. It would awesome to have a couple of great bags to go with all the other 5.11 gear we already have!
Thank you this review.Leaving out the modularity rich features of the Sig, how does it stack up against the M&P 10mm. The other point to consider is the red dot options that S&W model fits. In my option those are major points to consider for those of us who a 40S&W in their collection
I wouldn't want to run anything other than a Romeo 2 or maybe an RMR on a 10mm, so other options that are less durable and I know won't hold up aren't important to me. Why would you exclude modularity? It's future-proofing the gun and is one of it's biggest advantages. The S&W is cheaper (usually is compared to Sig); I'm betting the Sig is better.
Can't say for sure until I get my hands on one, but my M&P 4.6" 10mm has been great so far, with a wide variety of ammo from 40 S&W to moderate target ammo, Sig JHPs and Underwood full-power hardcasts. I'm running a Holosun 507c X2 on it.
@@bsmithhammer I'm actually running the EXACT same setup on my 4.6" 10mm. We're twinning lol. I also run a TLR7a on mine. Have you found any IWB holsters you like for yours?
@@IndieGamerMonkey Nice. I have only looked into OWB options so far. The other things I've done to mine is to swap out the recoil assembly for a steel guide rod and 20lb spring from Wolff, and I added an alloy optics plate/steel mounting screws from C&H Precision.
I think that a full size grip with a compact size slide and barrel of 4" or even 3.8" would make fore an excellent carry option. I am not a snob when it comes to grip length, but depending on your concealed carry location preference having a 4.5 or longer muzzle can be rather uncomfortable; especially, if it's inside the waistband. I owned a Glock 29 for a while, and while I did not do bad on the range with it in slow fire drills really concentrating on how I was aiming, high speed defensive style drills were problematic due to my natural hold when aiming which I attribute to years of 1911 shooting. The significant difference in grip angle and how you have to hold a Glock made it very difficult for me to over come almost 20 years of 1911 point and shoot muscle memory. I ended up selling it because my spare time for range trips was scarce and I won't carry a pistol I am not competent with. I also did not care for the stock trigger at all, but did not see the point in modding a pistol I could not warm up to. I have since shot the new XD 10mms and the M&P 10mms and have to say they were a much better fit for me. The XD has a better trigger but I feel the M&P was better in the accuracy and lighter felt recoil departments; especially in the compact models. I will have to shoot the Sig and see how it compares to the full size versions of the XD and M&P to determine if the higher premium is worth it or not. I will say this though, if Canick or Beretta drop an SFX Elite or APX 10mm in carry size it's a wrap because they are two of my favorite polymer pistols for straight out of the box no mods needed firearms. If Beretta makes a 10 compact on the new and improved APX platform it may very well be the best 10mm poly-striker pistol in existence. Heck, I wouldn't care if they built it on the old APX platform. I really enjoyed that pistol even with its ray-gun looks.
The G29SF will always take the cake for me as a nice edc/woods carry piece with alot of power/capacity. This is peaking my interest more than any other full size 10mm that has come out lately love the clean lines of it I'll give it a bit of time though.
Glock 29SF is a great tool for the woods you got 11 rds of Underwood 140gr in an easy light package. Drop in the 15rd if you still have problems after the first 11 rds. Shoots just like a Glock 19 no need to train on different gun.
not gonna lie man, I was thinking about getting the Glock-20 at one point, due to it being $200 cheaper than the XTEN. But after chatting with a close friend of mine (who himself is a big gun guy like me) about which 10mm handgun is best between the Glock-20, the FN-Tactical, and the XTEN, he said to go with the XTEN, since Sig Sauer makes some pretty good guns anyway. So I did, and it's pretty much the twin piece to my P320 in 9mm.
You can convert your 9mm FCU’s to use with the XTen 10mm by replacing the slide catch spring and takedown safety lever (10mm conversion kit). I confirmed this today with a Sig dealer. The ejector on the 9mm FCU does not need replacing.
I have the springfield xd with the 5.25 barrel. Very accurate . I have had some reliability issues with it tho. I have had 2 glock 20s absolutely no reliability issues but accuracy was so so. The tangfolios are probably both accurate and reliable but heavy. I'm interested in how this 10mm offering handles.
@@danishraisham1697 youre right.. and tanfolio is nice too! I just can't do thumb safeties :/ hammer fired steel framed 10mm with decocker would be 👌👌👌
Love 5.11! I have a second son on the way this June. Our first lived 2 weeks with some serious complications, and we were heartbroken. Hoping this next little guy will want to pack up his shooting gear in a few years with daddy and hit the range! Might start him out with a Ruger mark 4.
@@johnleon2594 we were blessed to have any time with our first. Doctors said he would likely not make it to term. 2 weeks of life was more than I could've hoped for
my dad would load that bag up with a few beers, some Firestarter's that he over payed for at the campground store and a 11 in 1 screwdriver that he probably doesn't know how to use. great bag and a great review James
My daughter recently got her carry permit. The 5.11 rush would be awesome for her personal carry. She is a student and a hiker. I could see it filled with books, computer, hiking gear and her pet supplies for her dog. The second would go to my Dad whom also carries. He is always looking for a better way to organize his computer and camera supplies along with the multiple emergency equipment he carries. BTW really excited to get my hands on a Sig 320 X10. I'll get my own rush to pack it during my fishing and hunting trips.
I went the route of converting my Glock 30 to 45 Super, which is ballistically very similar to 10 mm, but allows me to shoot 45 ACP as a sub load. Have you ever looked at the 45 Super for bear defense? I bow hunt in serious bear country here in Idaho, and I carry mine with the Underwood 255 gr hard cast loads. I do like the Sig trigger, and the ergos.... Anyway, nice review.
Probably the Sig X10 is the best option if one is looking better stopping power caliber and an OR gun. I already own an X5 Legion and a Shadow 2. And after reviewing options for 10mm Auto and .45 ACP, i think the Sig X10 + Romeo 1 stands out. Great video!
I've been carrying a S&W 1006 since 1990, I love the gun it shoots well and is extremely accurate. I carried it at work regularly, although it was "Unauthorized" they weren't going through the door, we were. The only down side is the 9 round Magazine. 9+1 is okay but 15+ would be nicer to have. I carry it concealed and never have a problem with it. Now my state only currently allows 10 or less round magazines but once that changes I will seek out a higher capacity 10 MM, even if I continue to carry the 1006 the vast majority of the time.
For Father’s Day this year, I bought my dad his first center fire handgun, a S&W EZ 9mm. He’s a widowed veteran and I want him to be able to protect himself regardless of age. I’m sure we’d use those 5.11 bags at the range together or camping!
This is an absolute must have for me. I've been needing a more sufficient camp/hike/hunting gun than my old Gen4 g22. If I can use the chassis to assemble a compact 9mm variant also, I just don't see any better value out there.
U can grt some real hot 40 s&w...look at Buffalo bore and Underwood.. they will have u in 10mm power....and why not just keep the G22 and grt a G17 barrel?
There's virtually no difference in performance between 10mm and .40 S&W when it comes to terminal ballistics and effectiveness on target. Many 10mm on the market is even loaded to .40 S&W velocities, but bumping up the velocity doesn't really help much at all compared to the hottest .40 loads.
5.11- my son and and I feed the homeless on holidays and would use the packs to carry eating utensils / drinks accompanied by our edc gear and weapon. We have been using the rush 12 and 24 now for 6 years and our bags have seen better days but still going strong
As a veteran I love and own 5.11 clothing & gear. I find the quality control to be excellent in their products never had an issue. One time I ordered some tactical striker pants and they came in the wrong length than what I had ordered, I called the 5.11 store where I ordered them in Tampa Fl. and the customer service was excellent, they acknowledged the error and exchanged pants without any hassle. My son always saw me wearing 5.11 clothing & gear when I served and when it was his turn to serve in Afghanistan that was his clothing & gear of choice. My son is the 3rd generation of our family that has served. My son is a humble man, never talks about he’s training, what he did or what he saw in combat. As many veterans he struggled with fitting back into society as I did when he completed his 2nd enlistment. He’s a great son I couldn’t be more proud of and I couldn’t ask for a better son. Now he’s a great Dad himself with his little daughter and for Father’s I would gift him a 5.11 backpack and pack some of his favorite 5.11 T-shirts, polos, pants, and boots together with a Bible & framed picture of his family which is the force behind every American veteran, God & Country 🇺🇸.
Is 10mm here to stay this time or is it just a fad? I'm curious to know what you guys think.
For myself, when I'm going to be around people, I carry 9mm. When I'm on the land or in the woods, I carry 10mm. Love them both. Don't intend to change.
10mm has been around a long time. I own many 10mm pistols and love them. For me, 9mm is too small and .45ACP is too big. 10mm is just right, and more powerful.
Stay brother
@Living in North Carolina! Right on, and thanks for your service. I bought a few .40S&W pistols with polymer frames years ago. When people say .40S&W is a "snappy" round, they aren't kidding. The size of the round is good, but firing .40S&W rounds in lightweight polymer frame pistols is a nightmare for average-size people. I sold mine. If I could have found high quality .40S&W pistols with steel frames, weighing over 40 oz., I would have bought them, but I couldn't. 10mm is the best choice all-around. However, full-size 10mm pistols need steel frames, and weigh 40-45 oz. I'm surprised Sig built the new P320-X10 with a polymer frame, weighing only 33 oz. Let's ask Sig to offer a full-size, striker-fired, high-capacity 10mm Legion with a steel frame or TXG tungsten-infused grip module like the P320-X5 Legion, creating a weight of 43.5 oz.
Those of us in Grizzly and wolf country will argue that it is here to stay
As one of the 3 women who regularly watch this channel, I would give one to my husband and one to my father so they would finally have something in common. My dad would use it for his 1911s and my husband would use it to pack ammo or use it as his luggage when we visit his parents. The x ten I would like for me!
I'm a female fan of the channel and 10mm. I love my G20 and carry it in cooler weather, but a slimming grip mod may yet be in its future.
@@behindthewolfseyes lies
@@BigCruddyTv It's the G20 or an LCP Max depending one the day. I don't know what to tell you. I'm not the only woman I know that shoots ten.
You are an awesome woman
Finally! I'm so glad this is a thing. I'm also glad that Sig is transitioning away from an optics system where you have to remove your rear sights on their newer firearms.
Do you know of any plans to update the P365 with this new feature?
the spectre series p365 (the luxury version) already has this feature. I think the new p365 chambered in .380 has it also
@@gavinm1347 I don't know about any plans to update the current models, but the newer P365s that Sig has released uses the new optics system.
@@JacksonWalter735 That hurts me because my P365 XL that I got a few months ago doesn't have that feature.
@@zombieslayer7759 I just got my X last week. So I feel your pain
Props to a manufacturer that will just outright say "Yes" when asked if they're gonna deliver a certain product. Can someone ask the folk at FN if they're gonna give us a 509 in 10mm? That's really what I want.
They said no to a Redditor 2 years ago on whether the 10mm p320 would come out one day or not.
@@arthurillusion well given the fact that was around the time they were dealing with the drop accidental discharges, I'm not surprised they said no. They had bigger problems to deal with.
*FNX in 10mm
@@rayw3537 this and bring back the fs2000 with modern updates
yes
As a retired Army veteran I have stayed active in the shooting community. 5.11 equipment and attire have been my go to standard. Quality made and common sense design keeps it in high demand and usage. It’s what I recommend to my sons, bother and nephew as EDC.
Keep up the great work and support of LEOs, military and average prepared community.
Stay safe , stay strong.
More 10mm! It can be loaded weak to be like a .40S&W for personal defense, loaded hot with penetrators for bear country, loaded heavy with 220gr for subsonics, and loaded hot and light out of a 16” barrel can reach 2,800fps. It checks all the boxes within 150 yards. Just need more manufacturing of it.
A lot more 10mm please
Why would you think the 220gr would be subsonic? You can get 1200 fps with 220gr
@@Wildwestwrangler you dont load do u ? lol
@@OnceShy_TwiceBittenwhy would I want sub 10’s?
Super excited for this gun. I love the 320 but I’ve wanted it in a 10mm and now it’s here
Love it !!
I've been a 10mm junkie for 15 years. A first gen G20 was my first Glock. I built an AR 10mm that I am taking on a hog hunt as well as a P80 with a 6" slide and jokingly call it my howitzer. Been looking at a revolver in 10 to round out the collection.
Thanks for another great review
same. waiting on a GP100 in 10mm to showup. hope to get it reamed to 10mm magnum
Really enjoying my M&P 2.0 10mm with a green dot. No issues, shoots great and don't have to wait.
How is the slide to frame fit on your M&P 2.0 10mm? Mine is loose.
@@KENAHIGHLANDER My copy doesn't have a loose slide, but it did break (and really snapped) the screws holding the green dot and now the firearm is at S&W. Not sure what they are going to do.
The stoppages are most likely to be break in related. I had similar issues with my Smith and Wesson M&P10. It is now running smoothly and I love it.
I think I like the M&P 10mm better
There should not be a break in period
Break-in periods are such a bullshit myth and excuse. They apply to tight tolerance metal on metal pistols that are typically overpriced. Poly frames should run like a raped ape up a tree. Never had a break-in period or jam with my G40.
It's probably because it's a sig. It has a break in period and then it breaks.
@@lucashornbrook78 Lots of different guns have break in periods, including Shadow Systems.
I think the closest comparison on the market is probably the M&P 2.0 10mm with the 4.6" barrel. Similar size and weight, same capacity, both come with optics cuts. I got one a few months back and it's been great, however most of my carry guns are Sigs, so I'll probably end up with one of these as well eventually.
The only thing I don't like about it is you can't find any mags for it.
@@dktk4136 Agreed. Apparently the 45 mags work with 10mm, but there's no way I'm buying magazines that "kind of work" specifically for the wrong gun. I understand that the first batch needed to go with the guns themselves, but it's pretty silly that they can't pump out some stamped sheetmetal and bits of plastic that they've already made the tooling for.
@@AbstractPragmatism it's why I went with G20. I love the optic cut coming with it but I don't buy a gun that I can't get mags for.
@@dktk4136 My take was that if I carry it, it'll be on a chest rig while hiking/hunting. If I have enough time to dump 31 rounds and change mags twice, I probably could've just casually walked away from the bear/moose at that point lol. It's still pretty dumb, though; I'm sure lots of people are interested in using it as a duty gun or for edc.
@@AbstractPragmatism I like to have extra mags for the range and to cycle out use. If I just get one that's defective and can replace it now I only have two.
Having shot the 10mm in various configurations and manufacturers the heavier the gun the more pleasant it is to shoot. The S&W 10 series always seemed the best but with only a 9 round capacity. Sig should offer the infused frame. Very smart to design this pistol with a smaller grip circumference than the Glock - which seems to be made for only those with the biggest hands.
What I've noticed, having shot heavy, all steel, 10mm pistols and some polymer pistols is that heavy steel isn't necessarily that much 'better.' The recoil impulse with a polymer frame feels different than a steel frame, and sure you can go too light and then pay for it with painful recoil, but a 30 oz. polymer frame, full-size 10mm is not really that bad to shoot at all, even with full power loads.
The people who seem to freak out about how "powerful" 10mm loads feel are often people who shoot a lot of 9mm and not much else. I've seen this across multiple reviews of 10mm pistols - you can usually tell the reviewers that are accustomed to shooting more powerful calibers, and the people who don't.
Well the M&P10 is a thing now, so there’s that.
@@AhHereWeGo And mine has been great so far.
@@bsmithhammer That's been my experience as well. Subjective experience of recoil has more to do with technique than with mass. I'd been shooting a 1911 for years before I knew that most people think of it as having hard recoil. It's not that I don't notice some firearms recoil more than others, it's just that with good technique I don't find it hard to manage.
@@bsmithhammer People tend to overlook that the older metal frame pistols had a higher bore axis, than the latest polymer frame designs so it's definitely not just about weight. I'm someone who likes both so I don't have a dog in the fight but I like to appreciate things for what they are.
Honestly, I really like my combo of the g40 and the tnw asr in 10mm. Same mags, same ammo, reliable, and good for bush and self defense.
Hard to beat that combo
What's tnw asr?
i want everything tnw makes lol!
@@makinmovesmathias684 tnw aero survival rifle. It's just a pcc
Love my g40 and it shoots 40cal without any issues to!
Great video. I been using Sig Sauer P 220 and 320 since my Marine Corps days 1987 to 1991. I carried the 45 ACP in the Marines and Law Enforcement for 26 be years. Great weapons with no problems. I would love to get the X20. I love 10mms.
Guess he missed the S&W mp 2 in 10 that was released a few months back. They both look like amazing options. One comes with night sights the other suppressor height for optic cowitness, both have amazing grips and ergos
By missed do you mean did an in depth review months ago?
I love the S&W MP 10. Great shooting pistol.
Great review of the Sig 320. My Father has always been the “over protector”, only as I saw it as a young buck. Now with my family, it is my upmost duty to provide that covering. I’ve just started my firearm journey with M&P 9mm EDC (the son), and was very interesting in a 10mm (the dad). Perfect companion just like my Father and I. Hitting the range with matching bags having the necessary gear to train hard, keeps us well prepared to protect this house! Thanks guys!
Sig has been making 10mm in their P220 all state frame! I’d love to pickup a P320 in 10mm as I have the 357 Sig with the 40 barrel and also the 9mm conversion kit. Sig is good and their customer service is the best!
I had a P220 in 10mm...it's a big heavy gun with a 5" barrel. I would have preferred a P220 with a standard length barrel. It was a fine shooter, but it didn't fit any of my Sig holsters and it became a safe queen I didn't really want to keep.
@@r1pbuck
You have to get the holster that goes on your thigh! It is quite comfortable and easy reach and aiming . They are heavy but oh how they are accurate in fact all my 220’s are very accurate!
I love my 357 sig great round
P220 all state insurance edition ?
Won't happen. It's a completely different FCU. All us early adopters just got bent over by sig.... .again.
I've been a huge 5.11 fan. I'm pretty sure they came out the year I graduated from high school in 2003. My older brother is a former LEO that started wearing 5.11 clothing and footwear back then and he was the one that introduced me to 5.11. My brother would always give our dad his old 5.11 boots and our dad wore them until he passed away two years ago. He had one pair that he wore all the time that was well over 15 years old. My dad thought it was the coolest thing to wear those boots, I think it had to deal with the pride he had to see that his son was following in his footsteps(Our dad was a former LEO). My brother has taken our father's passing very hard. So, I got the idea to start hiking more together with our families and honor his memories by teaching our kids how to live off the land, just like our father taught us. Having a great backpack is a huge part of what we do, so I know that two loaded-down 5.11 bags would last a lifetime, just like the old 5.11 boots our dad wore. Who knows, maybe we will be able to pass down two awesome packs to our children some day.
Jeremy, thanks for taking the time to share this story with us. Congratulations, the gang at 5.11 appreciated it too. The packs are yours, just email me at james@tfb.tv and I'll get them to you.
5.11 where you at? We found your new spokes person
@@tfbtv I just emailed you, Thank you and 5.11!! I'm kinda speechless right now. I'm so humbled and grateful for what you do.
I've been carrying a G29SF since 2007. I didn't really want a Glock, but HK didn't make a subcompact in 10mm. Considering how much bullet performance has advanced even in the last 15 years, I'm looking at moving to 9mm for carrying most of the year and carrying the 10 during the winter (when heavy clothing tends to mess with HP performance).
If Sig releases a subcompact in 10, I'll definitely be standing in line to get one.
I’m glad 10mm is making a comeback, would consider getting a 10mm if sig puts out a compact. Also would mind getting that backpack and use as a range bag
I helped source a PTR 9ct, the mp5 clone, for my dad. For years when I was a kid he said he always wanted one, probably since he watched so much die hard. I even outfitted it with the collapsing brace and original plastic handguards. That MP5 would definitely go in the bag and my matching MP5K clone would definitely go in my match bag.
For the 5.11 bags, my dad would have his loaded up with a stapler, hand loaded .45ACP and .458 Socom as his range bag. Mine would be used as an everyday backpack with my glock/sig mags, snacks and electronics as a sustainment bag.
I've resisted the M&P 10mm waiting on Sig, glad I waited. Plus while this may not interest some people looks like this might be interchangeable with 45acp.
It interests me.
I have been waiting on the 10mm for this exact reason. I have a 320 Compact in .45, been holding out for the 10mm conversion kit for a couple years.
MORE exciting is that maybe now there will be some freaking support for the "large frame" (for lack of a better word) 320!
Good on Sig Sauer for putting the 10mm P320 out. I'd like to see a 4" barrel version. Good review and shooting James.
Hey there, new subscriber here! I don't know how I'm just finding this channel, your production quality is top shelf. Also, I have become wary of other gun UA-camrs who seem to be cut from the same mold who: Present themselves as Ex "Special Operators" with requisite American Sniper/Zero Dark Thirty beards and ball caps, and most of these guys never served a day in their life! You are just a clean-cut, fit, and well-spoken guy who does all the research so we don't have to! I spent 23 years in the suck with 5 combat deployments and can tell you that Navy some Navy Seals are only allowed to have beards when they are actually downrange. No stateside beards allowed!
I absolutely love my P220 legion 10mm can’t wait to try this new P320. Great review 👍
Indeed. The p220 10mm legion is an awesome pistol!
Great review as always! I hope they give the 10mm the compensator treatment like on the P365 Spectre Comp, just without the Spectre fluff, aka TiN Gold trigger and laser engraved stippling. With the way Sig has been going lately I would give it 6 months and we’ll have some more options.
Hoping for something similar and with an AGX/Icarus grip module option.
I’m fine with the Spectre fluff as an option. Laser engraved stippling sounds nice. A nice carry comp version is exactly what I want!!!
I can’t wait for a compact size! It’ll be the perfect hiking pistol.
I edc the g20. Been wanting a 29 recently...but I could possibly choose a 320compact in 10mm over my glock
The G20 is already the perfect hiking gun.
@Jsouthwell7589 yeah and the S&W is not reliable
@@fishlips8336 the Walther PPQ is a great shower pistol lol.
@harry man back exactly why would you want a compact for hiking?? I don’t conceal my g20 when I’m hiking
Those backpacks are fantastic. My son will no doubt use it to store the emotional baggage that comes with holding the flashlight for his dad. 😁 Jokes aside, this is amazing bit of kit and I’m sure we could both use it to its fullest potential.
Sig does make another 10mm pistol, but not a polymer one. They have 4 different versions fo the sig P220 in 10mm now that are absolutely BEAUTIFUL! would love to see a review on them.
I finally broke down and got a “real” gun, according to my friends, which was a Sig P320 XCompact on Monday switching from Glock and of course it was well worth it. Totally a Sig fanboy now but I still can’t get rid of my Glock R. Lee Ermey t-shirt I’ve had for 10+ years.
Lol right? Everyone I talk to about getting a sig says "sorry. That's too rich for my blood." Until they shoot one, and then they understand why I am always hyping sig up as much as I do. My favorite is the P226, and people argue it is just "too heavy" and cumbersome. Yet the glock 17 I use for work feels almost no lighter or smaller in comparison minus the grip.
@@Jonah.the.moist.noodle Yeah, it definitely feels heavier but it is a good weight. Plus the ergonomics of it is far better. As far as price goes it was still under a $100 more for it then a Glock 19 through the law enforcement deal on both. Plus it came standard with night sights where Glock 19 that was in stock didn’t.
I switched from a 509C MRD to a 92x RDO GR. Even have my RMR mounted to it for the time being..until I can get an LTT slide.
@@christianong32 lucky. A sig P226 is at a minimum of a $1200 here in alberta Canada. And that's for a stock base model one. Sig is one of the more gucci richy rich guns around here. But that's thanks to gun laws, and just that it isn't as well sought after as glock. Here
I remember when the 10mm was on life-support. All but dead.... Now it's one of the most popular calibers. Far more so then when it was introduced. Yes, the '90s are truly dead. *:'(*
Yeah and you rarely see it on the shelves and we're about to go through another gun/ammo shortage so if you don't already own 10mm guns and ammo I'd stay away
Right on. The more we all read and studied the specs of 10mm pistols, and fired them, the more we realized it's the perfect self-defense pistol round.
Including my father, my son, my grandson and myself - we'll find quite the assortment of things to carry around with that awesome 5.11 bag! Of course, the first thing I'm bringing is that awesome X-Ten from Sig!!!
I’ve had a G20 for a long time, but I’m definitely looking forward to getting a 10mm that fits my had a little better. The G20 is like holding a brick with a trigger.
do you have small hands?
P01
Btw I didn't intend as a pun I am really asking.
Nah. I had mine stippled and it fits perfect. Stippling has been around for many years now. Cant use the brick excuse anymore...if you actually have one.
Right. I had the Glock G20, too. With a polymer frame and weight of only 30 oz., it was a nightmare to shoot, and I sold it. The new Sig P320-X10 is a step in the right direction, but it needs a steel frame or TXG tungsten-infused grip module to increase the weight to 43.5 oz.
Glad to see Sig expanding their 10mm line. It’s great to see the resurgence of the 10mm in the last 10 years or so. It really is a good cartridge. I use my G40 for hiking/backpacking/camping defense and someday I want to try it on TX hogs.
My dad would likely put fly fishing or pheasant hunting gear in his 5.11 bag.
I've been aching for a single stack 10mm glock for long distance backpacking
@@JohnDoe-cq3ii some models of 1911 or Sig 220 are single stack 10mm. Don’t know if any polymer framed single stack 10mm off the top of my head.
@@Goldenwithaleash yeah I've seen colts 10mm 1911 and the p220 in 10mm, but the steal frames are heavy. I'm definitely looking for something as small/lightweight as possible and hoping for at least 5+1 capacity. Carrying anything for 300+ mile backpacking trips becomes a chore real fast
@@JohnDoe-cq3ii hmmmm… Buffalo Bore makes a +P “Outdoorsmen” load in 9mm and .45acp and some of those Lehigh Extreme Penetrators are wicked. When I go on day hikes with my in-laws (not gun people) and need something concealable, I’ll carry my Glock 40MOS loaded with Underwood Extreme Penetrator 9mm. Just an thought.
Living and hog hunting here in Texas I can tell you 10mm has taken quite a few hogs without a problem.
My Dad passed in 2019, but he was a retired Marine (served in Vietnam and Desert Storm) and a pilot. In his bags he always carried sun glasses, flashlights (probably 3!), a pocket knife or two, over the counter meds, and snacks! Before, I always thought he packed too much, but I see how smart he was now. I know my brother (who is a father) and I could use these bags in our travels and be prepared like my Dad. Thank you for the opportunity.
Great review, so looking forward to getting a hold of one! Because fathers day was mentioned, this reminds me of my dad popping my gun experience cherry with the classic double pull on his old 12 gauge double barrel! Though I only have daughters, I did the same with them! At least it was low wall brass. If we are selected for the bag give away, I'd carry my shorty 50 beowolf and my oldest girl would carry extra mags and her art supplies!
I’m interested to see a comparison between this P320, the Glock 20 and the new S&W 10mm M&P
I have the Glock 20C and let me tell you, it shoots straight and the recoil is very manageable. It's a great click/boom pistol and I carry it everywhere. I carry the pistol and 45 rounds whenever I am out of the house. That compensated barrel really does help with the muzzle flip and 2nd shot follow-up. I've never regretted carrying the 'big 10". I'm looking at the P320-XTEN now as another 10mm pistol to use as a carry weapon....
Great to see the support for this cailber from Sig. Now we just need a P365 in 10mm.
Me and my Dad just bought a Glock 20 and 30, so being this comes out the day after I am a little salty. But I did get a nice Glock and so did my Dad. The only thing I can think of that is more cool than a 10mm pistol, is hanging out with your Dad or grandfather at the range.
I really enjoy this firearm. I’ve been waiting for some time for Sig to get this thing out. As far as the bag, my father has passed , however I’m a retired police officer and my son is a Deputy Sheriff. In my bag would be a laptop, extra Sig and S&W mags. My extra firearm, a carry pack with knife and extra clothing as needed. My son would have a laptop, field gear, extra mags for both pistol and rifle. Binocular and other day to day stuff.
Regarding the 5.11 bag, my dad would definitely load his up with about 15 pre-loaded 1911 mags because he cannot be bothered to reload mags while on the range. One pocket would likely hold the box of .357 sig ammo that he bought because his internet skills are lacking and probably just saw .357 and ordered it. Owns multiple .357 magnums but no .357 sig gun.
My son would have his new Rock Island 1911 that was his collage graduation present to himself and I would have my all time favorite Sig 226 Legion SAO. I know this is for fathers day but thank you to all that serve, have served and most importantly gave all with Memorial day coming up.
Ive been a big fan in the past of the 10mm in bren-10(not so much) and the in 92 of the G-20. I had 2 generations of the glock 20's. This is the second review of the x-10 ive watched and ive had the X-10 in my hands after owning and putting 18,000 rounds through my sig 320 X-5(non legion). It feels wonderful...
More than likely, my dad would use it as his range/car bag. he is just getting into the whole firearms industry due to the happenings going on in the country. I have recommended 5.11 products to him before and he already has his eyes on this bag I believe.
Thank you for the comprehensive review of the new sig as always man. Always a great time watching your content
Looks like Sig hit another home run with this!
My dad likes to travel a lot, so he would likely use this bag for trips. He’ll be going on a mission trip soon as a medical professional to help others in need. I’m sure this bag would be very useful for that.
*Begins Sig video withe a glock ad* 😂
Yeah that was hilarious.
Tanfoglio makes a great polymer framed full size 10mm. Sweet shooter, very accurate, and not expensive. Also does not have the unsupported chamber of the glock!
Our department loves 5.11 products. Ever since they opened a store in Montgomery AL it’s made it so much easier to get your hands on their products. Dad needs a bad with a convenient concealed carry pouch. Love my rush 72 but need a smaller pack to match with him.
Wow, as a Sig fan I love the new addition. Been looking for a 10 but the Glock just doesn't do it for me. This is great. As for the 5.11 by grandson and I shoot cowboy action and wild bunch. I can see us loading this bag up with all of the goodies needed for a days competition.
What don't you like about the Glock, just curious. I have a Glock 20 and it's a fantastic gun to shoot. It's a big gun, but I have big hands so it works great.
@@cohokid6936 I have had Glocks, been issuesd Glocks and they just don't fit me, feel like a 2x4 in my hand.
@@MikeStJohn-du5ue I totally get that, they aren't terribly ergonomic.
That full size pistol is the way to go for 10mm..outstanding! By the way, 511 makes the most comfortable boots I've ever put on my feet!
I like the boots they make but just too narrow for my foot.
I like the boots they make but just too narrow for my foot.
I have regular with, they do run a bit on the smaller side. I recommend half to whole size larger. Also thin high quality socks.
I was very surprised by the MSRP on the X-Ten. I was expecting a price tage of at least 1k. It seems Sig really knocked it out of the park with this one. Who knows, maybe Dad & I could carry this together in a matching set of 5.11 Rush 24 Backpacks in the near future? ;)
@brendan byrd Dude...you have no clue do you?
@@pineapple999100 ratio
The first gen Sigs are cheaper because you’re their beta-tester. By the time they get it right, the prices are much higher. They usually have everything sorted out about 36 months after initial release.
@@pineapple999100 Obviously not.
@@OFFICIALUND yeah, do your best not to drop it or smack it in the rear
That rush 24 bag looks awesome. My dad would probably load it up with a pair of white New Balances, some jeans from the hardware store, his tattered National WWII Museum hat, some sunscreen, and his android phone charger.
Got to hold one today at a sig dealer in my town. It's grip is fits so perfectly.
Glad to see another firearm in the "right" caliber. I have carried a Grand Power P40 10mm since they came out and I don't know of any other 10mm that shoots as well. Would love to see a comparison video of the Sig 10mm against the GP P40L to see your thoughts.
First, I'm actually pretty impressed at Sig's 10mm offering for its price point! I've been mulling over a Ruger, Colt Delta Elite, or a cheaper Rock Island for a hunting handgun. This presents another favorable option!
As for what my Dad and I would pack in a 5.11? Hunting and camping gear! Obviously we'd have our spare mags and ammo - but all the essentials too! Toilet paper, trauma kits, food, and BUG SPRAY!
I have the rock island double stack 1911 in 10MM and it’s been fantastic for me, reliable for sure. The biggest problem is the weight, which is why I’m looking for a polymer option.
@@stump3514 thanks for the input! I'm actually pretty comfortable with heavier handguns. But the polymer might be able to handle conditioning a bit better.
What do you make of your RIA'S reliability?
@@nytramtehgreat9562 it’s been good, I don’t have a ton of rounds through it (200-300) rounds but it hasn’t jammed on me once yet. It rolled down a step hill with me outside my holster for about 50 yards and lives in an extremely dusty environment. I make sure to clean it after every hunting trip I take it on because of the dust. The thing throws brass 10 yards or so on ejection.
I'm definitely going to have to look at this Sig as my all around side carry while out hunting! Love the adaptability of 10mm and S&W 40 to burn, as well as that awesome P320 versatility! BTW, probably to late but, would love to share some bags with my daughter, why well first were a generational military family. And she's a unique one...Special Forces! Go SIG!
1:02 I was today years old that I learned of the Miami shooting back in 86’. I watched a 49min special here in UA-cam & now I want this sig p320 10mm and a mini 14
5.11 makes great gear. Since I have 2 sons, I’m not keeping one of the bags, they each get one, fill it with essentials for emergencies (water, shelter, fire, med kit, etc) and put one in each of their cars. To honor James, I’ll put a smedium 5.11 t-shirt in. If they want short shorts, they are on their own for those!
I would love to see a comparison of this xten and m&p 10mm. Nobody seems to be doing a comparison with the s&w.
Another great video review as usual. I’ve had the 10mm bug for a long time. Interestingly my G29 broke its factory recoil spring guide rod…only Glock in my collection that failed. I also love my G20 with a 6” Storm Lake barrel and Bo Mar target sights. Glad to see Sig market this new 10mm. Perhaps there’s another 10mm in my future. Thanks for your excellent review.
Mehn, you better delete your comment. How dare you speak the truth of Glock breaking anything to the cult masses. Lol
Another home run from SIG, I would actually be interested in a compact version of this gun for backcountry Carry!
I was thinking this, loaded with some Underwood hardcast rounds.
This gun is a backcountry carry. Shaving a few oz’s isn’t worth the trade off of lower capacity, less controllability, and less velocity.
I think recoil and controllability could be an issue in a sub-5in barrel when 10mm in involved LOL
100% on a chest rig would be awesome. I have a Glock 40 MOS and a 20 and there both way too big.
@@pettifogger0712 I seen alot of videos of that small Springfield 10mm with the 3.3” barrel and yes the recoil looks substantial! 😣😅
I have to say Sig has won me over not because I wanted them too, they just keep making amazing guns. Every one I pick up fits me like a handshake and is amazingly accurate.
Great channel and content that I stumbled on today. You just picked up another subscriber.
511, sounds like a great bag. The things my dad typically carries when he goes out to hike, well, is just about everything he can stuff in there. First aid pack, fixed blade knife, fire starting essentials, water, water purification, snacks, a compact fishing rod and light tackle, an emergency blanket and tent...He's ready for just about anything which is smart if you ask me!
My father, 72. Carried a fanny pack every day since I can remember! It was quite embarrassing as a child. I showed him a 5.11 Daily Deploy recently, and he loved it. The fanny pack literally got left in the store. I'm sure he'd love the Rush pack as well! I know I would.
Would you not talk about fanny packs on a freaking post about 10mm? Show some respect.
@@jacktrout5807 it's a post about ditching one.
I love the Sig P- pistols but I have been resisting the 320 so far. I think this is going to tip me over the edge. I question the practice of _not_ cleaning and lubing a new gun before testing it. Seems to me that a clean gun eliminates the possible variable of dirt/grease etc. as it comes out of the box. I _always_ clean and lube a new gun before firing it.
I would never fight with a dirty gun if I don’t have to, so why would I keep a gun dirty in the first place? Just never made sense to me.
A gun should be able to function just fine with a little dirt/ grease out of the box.
Because I'm a partner at a law firm and I frankly just don't have time to break down and clean every gun before we hit the range. We filmed 7 in one day on this shoot. I agree with you though, I should do that. I just don't/can't.
@@tfbtv there’s no problem with letting them get dirty. To each their own. I would just never do that. And in my opinion if I were to see someone have problems with an overly dirty gun (within reason) I wouldn’t count that against it
There have been two new guns in the household lately. They did not arrive oiled. They're coated with an oil like preservative. Best clean that shit off.
Very well described and demonstrated. Thanks, buddy. I own many 10mm pistols, most of which have steel frames and weigh 40-45 oz. When I saw that the new Sig 10mm weighed only 33 oz., I was concerned about recoil discomfort and inaccuracy. Apparently, however, it feels good and performs well. I wish Sig had given it a steel frame, but I'll buy it and try it. Fully loaded, it would weigh 43 oz., which is a weight I prefer. Also, my gunsmith can install some weight in the grip.
Do we think Sig will ever make a 10mm steel-frame?
@@grafja Dan Wesson likely will
It would be the perfect bag to take my son who's 10 and just got his first gun to the range as well as outdoors .I'm excited my son finally came around helped build a few p80s and now wants to do 3 gun shooting. This bag would be perfect for father son outdoors hunting and range days
Ah, I called Range 54 here in Wichita KS and said I want a Sig 320 XTen! As far as 511, I have worn their products since 2008! Love all their gear! My dad is an avid hunter so I’m sure his backpack would include extra ammo for rifle and handgun, extra knife, cellphone and binos. I would have the same stuff along with a MRE so I could re-live my military days humping a pack!
It would be really cool to see a comparison between the grip sizes of the G20, S&W, and this SIG
Can't forget the dark horse xd 10mm
That Sig looks absolutely amazing!!
My dad is a locksmith, so I know for sure he would pack all his tools he uses when he’s out taking care of all his customers. The fact that he could also easily conceal his pistol in the pack would be a blessing for him!!
I'd use the 5.11 backpack in my "Get Home Bag" and am considering the 10MM to include. Getting from work to home might entail some serious firepower!
I'm not in the market for a 10mm, but your reviews are so F'ing good, honest, and entertaining, I had to watch the whole thing. This would be the 10mm I'd buy tho.
My dad was use that bag for work(laptop,5 in 1 screwdriver,ear pro,hard hat,snacks and battery bank)he currently use a backpack when he travels for work and would love an upgrade
Coming up with excuses to tell my wife right now.
Lie
Just get it and tell her you always had it
Yep, justifying new gun purchases to my wife is one life’s greatest challenges.
Easy. Tell her that the scammers that are about to bombard these comments with "MESSAGE ME FOR FREE GUN!!!!!" are actually legit and you won it from a Nigerian Prince in the TFBTV comments.
10>9
looks real sweet. love the 10mm in my glock 40. looking forward to the SIG.
This should be a good selling item for Sig, this was a decent review. I'd recommend that any 10MM ammo you're taking into big bear country be chronographed, 10MM ammo is notorious for being under loaded. The clubs current range master carries a 10MM, when loaded up properly it's a decent round, when it's not it's not very good. However 15 rounds of 10MM with max loads might be enough with an average Kodiak.
Owning 9MM+P+, 357 SIG (full power), 45 Super, and having shot several 10MM handguns, I'd stick with 9MM+P or 357 Sig, for defense, faster and easier to hit with for more people.
Having worked at regulated game farms and guiding in big bear country I'll stick to my 6 inch Model 29, 44 magnum, a 240 grain at 1,400 FPS is barely adequate as the bear get to 800+ pounds, then only because I carry a 450 magnum rifle. Unfortunately today you need a damn mortgage to buy a model 29.
Them big silver tips can get on you in a hurry. Watched a video from a helicopter of one on a dead run across an open river bottom, scary awesome.
@@bruceglock7260 Yep!
For the 5.11 bags, my dad would use it as an all around bag; work, events and taking my niece everywhere. He's been carrying this small cheap sling everyday for 2 years and it goes everywhere with him. Dad is a DD 214 alumni, the guardian to my niece and so he'd be over the moon with this gift as this bag has more room and compartments for his outings! I would use this as a range bag as I'm not busy body like dear old dad.
James, I'd been awaiting this review and as usual you dont disappoint! Thanks for always being so unbiased. Helps me with any of my purchases.
Rush 24 would be a great all around bag for camping, hiking, and bug out. It would awesome to have a couple of great bags to go with all the other 5.11 gear we already have!
Thank you this review.Leaving out the modularity rich features of the Sig, how does it stack up against the M&P 10mm. The other point to consider is the red dot options that S&W model fits. In my option those are major points to consider for those of us who a 40S&W in their collection
I wouldn't want to run anything other than a Romeo 2 or maybe an RMR on a 10mm, so other options that are less durable and I know won't hold up aren't important to me. Why would you exclude modularity? It's future-proofing the gun and is one of it's biggest advantages. The S&W is cheaper (usually is compared to Sig); I'm betting the Sig is better.
Can't say for sure until I get my hands on one, but my M&P 4.6" 10mm has been great so far, with a wide variety of ammo from 40 S&W to moderate target ammo, Sig JHPs and Underwood full-power hardcasts. I'm running a Holosun 507c X2 on it.
@@bsmithhammer I'm actually running the EXACT same setup on my 4.6" 10mm. We're twinning lol. I also run a TLR7a on mine. Have you found any IWB holsters you like for yours?
@@IndieGamerMonkey Nice. I have only looked into OWB options so far. The other things I've done to mine is to swap out the recoil assembly for a steel guide rod and 20lb spring from Wolff, and I added an alloy optics plate/steel mounting screws from C&H Precision.
@@toddheimann8020 holosun not indestructible enough for you?
I think that a full size grip with a compact size slide and barrel of 4" or even 3.8" would make fore an excellent carry option. I am not a snob when it comes to grip length, but depending on your concealed carry location preference having a 4.5 or longer muzzle can be rather uncomfortable; especially, if it's inside the waistband.
I owned a Glock 29 for a while, and while I did not do bad on the range with it in slow fire drills really concentrating on how I was aiming, high speed defensive style drills were problematic due to my natural hold when aiming which I attribute to years of 1911 shooting. The significant difference in grip angle and how you have to hold a Glock made it very difficult for me to over come almost 20 years of 1911 point and shoot muscle memory.
I ended up selling it because my spare time for range trips was scarce and I won't carry a pistol I am not competent with. I also did not care for the stock trigger at all, but did not see the point in modding a pistol I could not warm up to.
I have since shot the new XD 10mms and the M&P 10mms and have to say they were a much better fit for me. The XD has a better trigger but I feel the M&P was better in the accuracy and lighter felt recoil departments; especially in the compact models. I will have to shoot the Sig and see how it compares to the full size versions of the XD and M&P to determine if the higher premium is worth it or not. I will say this though, if Canick or Beretta drop an SFX Elite or APX 10mm in carry size it's a wrap because they are two of my favorite polymer pistols for straight out of the box no mods needed firearms.
If Beretta makes a 10 compact on the new and improved APX platform it may very well be the best 10mm poly-striker pistol in existence. Heck, I wouldn't care if they built it on the old APX platform. I really enjoyed that pistol even with its ray-gun looks.
The G29SF will always take the cake for me as a nice edc/woods carry piece with alot of power/capacity. This is peaking my interest more than any other full size 10mm that has come out lately love the clean lines of it I'll give it a bit of time though.
I'm also going to wait a while. Because more then likely Sig will come out with the 320 X10 Legion in a year or two.
Glock 29SF is a great tool for the woods you got 11 rds of Underwood 140gr in an easy light package. Drop in the 15rd if you still have problems after the first 11 rds. Shoots just like a Glock 19 no need to train on different gun.
I was planning on getting the Glock 20, but then I tried the Sig 320. Wow! Very, very nice! Found my next gun
not gonna lie man, I was thinking about getting the Glock-20 at one point, due to it being $200 cheaper than the XTEN. But after chatting with a close friend of mine (who himself is a big gun guy like me) about which 10mm handgun is best between the Glock-20, the FN-Tactical, and the XTEN, he said to go with the XTEN, since Sig Sauer makes some pretty good guns anyway. So I did, and it's pretty much the twin piece to my P320 in 9mm.
You can convert your 9mm FCU’s to use with the XTen 10mm by replacing the slide catch spring and takedown safety lever (10mm conversion kit). I confirmed this today with a Sig dealer. The ejector on the 9mm FCU does not need replacing.
I have the springfield xd with the 5.25 barrel. Very accurate . I have had some reliability issues with it tho. I have had 2 glock 20s absolutely no reliability issues but accuracy was so so. The tangfolios are probably both accurate and reliable but heavy. I'm interested in how this 10mm offering handles.
If it's based on the Sig chassis system this will be awesome for be 3d printers.
CZ is stupid for not making an SP01 in 10
I love my tanfoglio but yes, it’s chunky
@@harvey_weenstain8857 closest we got with that is the BRNO PSD. But that is made with 7.5 FK in mind
@@danishraisham1697 youre right.. and tanfolio is nice too! I just can't do thumb safeties :/ hammer fired steel framed 10mm with decocker would be 👌👌👌
Love 5.11! I have a second son on the way this June. Our first lived 2 weeks with some serious complications, and we were heartbroken. Hoping this next little guy will want to pack up his shooting gear in a few years with daddy and hit the range! Might start him out with a Ruger mark 4.
GOD BLESS
@@johnleon2594 we were blessed to have any time with our first. Doctors said he would likely not make it to term. 2 weeks of life was more than I could've hoped for
10mm: My preferred carry caliber when I was doing armed security in during the late 1990s.
my dad would load that bag up with a few beers, some Firestarter's that he over payed for at the campground store and a 11 in 1 screwdriver that he probably doesn't know how to use. great bag and a great review James
My daughter recently got her carry permit. The 5.11 rush would be awesome for her personal carry. She is a student and a hiker. I could see it filled with books, computer, hiking gear and her pet supplies for her dog. The second would go to my Dad whom also carries. He is always looking for a better way to organize his computer and camera supplies along with the multiple emergency equipment he carries. BTW really excited to get my hands on a Sig 320 X10. I'll get my own rush to pack it during my fishing and hunting trips.
That is a damn fine looking gun. Gonna have to get me one.
I went the route of converting my Glock 30 to 45 Super, which is ballistically very similar to 10 mm, but allows me to shoot 45 ACP as a sub load. Have you ever looked at the 45 Super for bear defense? I bow hunt in serious bear country here in Idaho, and I carry mine with the Underwood 255 gr hard cast loads. I do like the Sig trigger, and the ergos.... Anyway, nice review.
That's exactly why I went with an h&k45
Excited to see a comparison to the M&P and 20SF! Looks like the beaver tail could be raised to reduce muzzle flip.
DON'T THINK HE LIKES SMITH. DIDN'T EVEN MENTION IT LOL
Probably the Sig X10 is the best option if one is looking better stopping power caliber and an OR gun. I already own an X5 Legion and a Shadow 2. And after reviewing options for 10mm Auto and .45 ACP, i think the Sig X10 + Romeo 1 stands out. Great video!
I've been carrying a S&W 1006 since 1990, I love the gun it shoots well and is extremely accurate. I carried it at work regularly, although it was "Unauthorized" they weren't going through the door, we were. The only down side is the 9 round Magazine. 9+1 is okay but 15+ would be nicer to have. I carry it concealed and never have a problem with it. Now my state only currently allows 10 or less round magazines but once that changes I will seek out a higher capacity 10 MM, even if I continue to carry the 1006 the vast majority of the time.
What makes you think it's going to get better?
@@10mikemike89 They keep losing 2A cases at the Supreme court level.
For Father’s Day this year, I bought my dad his first center fire handgun, a S&W EZ 9mm. He’s a widowed veteran and I want him to be able to protect himself regardless of age. I’m sure we’d use those 5.11 bags at the range together or camping!
This is an absolute must have for me. I've been needing a more sufficient camp/hike/hunting gun than my old Gen4 g22. If I can use the chassis to assemble a compact 9mm variant also, I just don't see any better value out there.
U can grt some real hot 40 s&w...look at Buffalo bore and Underwood.. they will have u in 10mm power....and why not just keep the G22 and grt a G17 barrel?
There's virtually no difference in performance between 10mm and .40 S&W when it comes to terminal ballistics and effectiveness on target. Many 10mm on the market is even loaded to .40 S&W velocities, but bumping up the velocity doesn't really help much at all compared to the hottest .40 loads.
Would love to see them do a 6” barrel model like the Glock model 40. Great Job Sig
Absolutely that's what I've been saying I know that the XD had a 5.5 in model... but I don't an XD
5.11- my son and and I feed the homeless on holidays and would use the packs to carry eating utensils / drinks accompanied by our edc gear and weapon. We have been using the rush 12 and 24 now for 6 years and our bags have seen better days but still going strong
As a veteran I love and own 5.11 clothing & gear. I find the quality control to be excellent in their products never had an issue. One time I ordered some tactical striker pants and they came in the wrong length than what I had ordered, I called the 5.11 store where I ordered them in Tampa Fl. and the customer service was excellent, they acknowledged the error and exchanged pants without any hassle. My son always saw me wearing 5.11 clothing & gear when I served and when it was his turn to serve in Afghanistan that was his clothing & gear of choice. My son is the 3rd generation of our family that has served. My son is a humble man, never talks about he’s training, what he did or what he saw in combat. As many veterans he struggled with fitting back into society as I did when he completed his 2nd enlistment. He’s a great son I couldn’t be more proud of and I couldn’t ask for a better son. Now he’s a great Dad himself with his little daughter and for Father’s I would gift him a 5.11 backpack and pack some of his favorite 5.11 T-shirts, polos, pants, and boots together with a Bible & framed picture of his family which is the force behind every American veteran, God & Country 🇺🇸.