@@JBob-qv2fd the test version I've got in another video was even smoother and had a lot more detail in the effect, but I accidentally overwrote the save file 😭 (Though the less detailed glow here suits the film look possibly better)
@@clrlmiller I'm all in on new takes but this is just not wirkin ( I know) at all it makes me think of something that got stuck in the washing machine on the spin cycle !!
wow. love the multi coloured drop out of warp and the woosh sound. reminds me of the early Movies - Wrath of Khan. hasthat big movie feel about it. love it
@@danieldalton8075 thank you! I was aiming for those movies in feel, and the warp trail in particular was me looking at the movie effects and trying to work out what's actually causing them, to realise what colour it should be for this ship 🤣
I'm currently planning out a kitbash of a post TOS/Pre-TMP starship and didn't want to do a standard secondary hull. This half hull is exactly what I was looking for!! Thanks for the idea!
@@Tybearius post TOS, Pre TMP is exactly what I was going for here too! What sort of layout were you thinking? The half hull idea came about as I was doing initial layout of shapes and it didn't have any secondary at all at first - I wanted something close in to keep the sleeker profile and it suddenly popped into my head. I figure it's a more primitive version of the sort of ideas that eventually go into shops like Excelsior
The Klingon ship didn't react until they had already taken damage from the Starfleet ship---did the Astraea use the planet's magnetic field to mask their approach?
@@longWriter .> Yes Yes they did. 😅 So to be fair I intended a longer, more even battle but was on a deadline and am still learning to do this, and the initial drop out of warp and firing was conceived off as happening a bit faster. The explanation in my head is that the Astraea is a new fast response ship and the Klingons weren't expecting anyone to show up this quickly, so they were doing what Klingons do and getting distracted by attacking the planet (honestly quite likely a bunch of them beaming down to the planet) leading to them being careless and a slow response from the bridge crew. But the Astraea masking it's approach does sound very in keeping for Trek 😅
The Klingon ship pulling an Immelmann turn was pretty cool. The Astraea turning her ventral shield to absorb the ship's explosion was a nice touch. Well Done.
@@accastillo6046 yes! I had that thought! Having just taken a battering on the dorsal shields, it makes perfect sense to turn like that, both for the explosion and in case the Klingons got any more shots off. But I *definitely* didn't realise that whilst colour grading, and definitely didn't originally put in because it looked cool. 😅 (You could probably justify the immelman under the same logic of not wanting to leave the damaged dorsal facing the enemy actually.) Why neither ship uses their aft torpedoes is a question best left unanswered 😅
reminds me of how I frequently turn my plane in WT, go into a vertical climb then an aerlion roll...it changes direction quicker han turning flat with the rudder.
This is, and has been since it was created as a concept one of my all time favorite federation starship designs! I love that you used this starship in the video, and this was a fun watch. I always get goose bumps when I hear the Klingon theme music as a bird of prey arrives. 10 x 10 quality, I loved it!
Neat ship designs, I mean really slick. The visual effects and lighting are top notch, imo. Good choreography too, and the music fits right in perfect. 10/10 🖖🏼
@@farazq TBF fair to studios they have much MUCH harsher time deadlines. This took probably a month from actually starting to animate to uploading and that's not counting planning or making the models which took a LOT longer. All for less than three minutes of actual footage. (Granted I'm doing evenings on and off, not in a studio as a full time job. A chunk of it will also be executives demanding certain art styles which are...not always favourable).
It's because Paramount has to run endless tests to make sure that no dolphins or whales are injured during filming. You know, just in case some virtual piece of space ship de-orbits and crashes into the ocean. Just ask Elon; he knows all about that. 🤨😏
So you so do know that this video heavily references Strange New Worlds, right? Sometimes I wonder if the people who post this sort of thing even really know that much about Star Trek.
@@admiralbob77 I'm really curious what SNW references you're seeing? There absolutely *are* some in the design of the Astraea, mostly on the nacelles iirc but also the design of the Starfleet pennant. I wasn't *consciously* influenced by SNW for the animation itself, but I might have drawn on some unconsciously and I want to know what bits you see!
@@RingandRaven The combination of the ship name and the video title: Ad Astra Per Aspera, the recruiting phrase Commander Una Chin-Riley will one day be known for in the 24th century.
@@jakoseto3398 thank you! That honestly proved easier than I thought it would, but finding the right pieces and matching them up to the visual beats took a good few hours
@@michaelcristel3060 they're supposed to be fusion engines iirc but I swear to god those things are magic 🤣 TBF I do want to reserve the big fancy glows for those moments of distinct acceleration. It keeps the general feel of the movies if they're not having huge flares all the time, I want to visually reserve it for special moments, and also it's a post VFX that I'm tracking in (by hand because I'm not very familiar with how to do it yet 😅)
The way I've heard it is that the impulse engines are magic reactionless machines while the glowing red parts are just the exhausts of the fusion reactors that power them. Should still flare at high thrust either way, though.
@@matttrafton2725 I'm leaning more to the older TOS/,movie vibe of these being very powerful weapons that can end fights quickly....is my excuse 🤣 It was GOING to be a longer running battle but I ran out of time to get it finished so I had to simplify. It's why the klingons only get one torpedo off and don't even fire their disruptors (though the head logic is that first torpedo hitting centre of mass above their reactor royally screwed them over with the damage that bled through the shields
@@tomgarges7045 thank you! Took a bit of time to search through bits that sounded right and match them to the visual beats, but less time than I expected!
People on the planet: yay starfleet is here! Ship starts firing.... People on the planet: you missed? how could you miss a comparatively stationary target!
@@RingandRaven definitely looks like K`tinga variation. I`m also doing some animation for my upcoming Star Trek music cover video and use models from ENT era. Looking at D5, I also don`t think it belongs there 😄
@@TobyJWoods thanks! I don't want to animate an impulse flare ever time the engines do anything but for bursts of acceleration it adds a nice something
Glorious. The Federation ship should have launched a full spread of torpedoes dispersal pattern sierra to cure the Klingon ship of its belligerent ways 😂
I am loving your UFP ship... to me it reads smaller than a Connie, a frigate or a surveyor with a lot of light duty missions... love to see a 5 view pic of this ship
@@paulreid7697 www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Ravenna-Class-Schematics-Classic-Blueprints-1034136328 I've got a couple more vids with flyarounds and such as well, and some other renders in the deviant art! She's bigger than she looks, that saucer is most of the size of a Connie's, but yes it's a mid range explorer/fast response ship that's more compact than a Connie (honestly a bit like how the Miranda seems small but is bigger than people think in a direct comparison, I think possibly calced as having more internal volume even! )
@@sarreqteryx it's got a bit of that vibe to it, the original concept art in a way even more so as it gives it an off white hull. It wasn't until I started rotating around it after modelling that I realised it's a flattened out and embiggened BOP head!
Lots of beautiful modelling, rendering, texturing, and fx work. The only thing holding this back is the stuttering in all of the camera pans. Considering this is a fan made project though, that's a minor sin easily forgiven. Well done.
@@GeoffreyToday huh, I'm not really seeing the stuttering - I believe you I'm very much still learning how to get the camera to move right. Is it a frame rate thing?
@@wilemelliott exactly the vibe I wanted! idea is it's a cut down Connie that gives the same capabilities in a smaller package. Ravenna class, higher top speed, shorter range, mid range explorer / quick response / colony support. Part of updating the fleet but not quite at the point they have the new movie era engines www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Ravenna-Class-Schematics-Classic-Blueprints-1034136328
@@wolfjouett2048 www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Scale-Proposal-1031145587 Can't remember if this is what I settled on in the end with the stated stats, but certainly roughly this. In overall terms she's bigger than you'd expect (those nacelles came out huge!), but the volume is noticeably smaller - I affectionately refer to her as a Pocket Connie 🤣 - the idea is the same general capabilities in a smaller space frame, sacrificing endurance for speed The scaling was a faff though because I modelled the saucer using a reference image that seems to be quite inaccurate: www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Scale-Errors-1031145578 Sonic I scaled the bridge to be the same size as intended then the ship ended up *huge*. So I ended up scaling more towards the deck sizes/saucer thickness iirc, which means the bridge module is a lot smaller than the Connie's (though I guess the bridge itself could be similar, and there's just less padding around it) Still, scale errors are traditional in Trek 😅
@@SKYNET_1.01 there *is* a similarity in the layout. Amusingly enough I actually had the Gagarin from Disco in my head when I first started setting out shapes, then had the idea for a half cut, close in secondary sling underneath
Love the Warp effect. And That drop out of Warp was great! I hate modern Trek where the ships just "blip into existence" in a split second when drop out from warp. Your Warp version has a lot more majesty and dignity. That transition out of warp was absolutely great. I watched it numerous times. I enjoyed how you slowed down the ship quickly, but not TOO quickly. And you took a few seconds to transition from warp to normal speed. You treated the ships like large ships. You didn't treat them like jet Fighters (like modern Trek). Everything has weight in your version. Great job.
@@TheBigExclusive thank you, and yes those were exactly my thoughts! I was tempted to have it accelerate a little faster after the dropout, because of the urgency, but the slightly slower one gives more sense of mass. And I *hate* the blip/snap looks they're using these days for warp, it's just...utterly lacking in character
@@lanantz I have specs for one of them! www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Ravenna-Class-Schematics-Classic-Blueprints-1034136328 The Ravenna is basically taking the Connie and making it more compact, sacrificing range and endurance for speed. Mid range exploration, fast response, colony support - it's got the punch of a Connie in a smaller package, and most of the space outside the saucer is engines, cargo bays, and space for auxiliary craft if needed. Higher top speed, but lower cruising speed, and supports iirc 2/3s the crew for more internal and border missions rather than the long term, five years in deep space ones. The J'Gein class I've not done any stats for, but I'm envisioning it as reasonably comparable to a K'Tinga, geared more towards long range deep strikes.
@@jameshoopingarner thank you! There's hard limits to what I know how to do in Blender but layering stuff up in post has worked pretty well (even if I see every glaring error 😅) I think I pulled the music from ....four different Trek movies? Just clicking through UA-cam playlists until I found pieces I thought matched the scenes (some bits extremely well, like the pull back shot from the klingon's that reveals the incoming Astraea - that ones all one piece, I just matched the moment it changed to the good guy theme to the Astraea's appearance and it worked quite well 😅 )
I loved it! I am always happy to see Klingons go boom. I have been a huge Romulan fan since the 70's. Could you make a film with them please? I would love to see some non-canon Romulan ships instead of the Bird-of-Prey. FASA had alot of cool designs, perhaps you could draw from them?
@@tb7771 I do actually want to do a Romulan ship, always liked them more than the klingons too! Had a couple of ideas for simple models but not made anything decent yet. Not a personal fan of the FASA aesthetic though. So eventually it's in the to do list! Howard Day has a short snippets with some movie era Romulans on his channel though, it's the level I aspire to!
@@raoultittel thank you! I wanted to keep that movie era feel of big slow moving things, but a little bit of more modern in some of the angles and such
@@jamezxh so being weird I modelled the ships in Wings 3D - it's not the most powerful but it's got an intuitive user interface I learned years ago, and I call it a comfort modeller I can just pick up and go. I then ported them to Blender to texture, and do the animation, it's way more powerful and I should really learn to model in it too 😅 I then ported THOSE results over to Davinci Resolve to edit the video and do all the post processing effects and such (I didn't use the composition node sin blender, they can give very good results but slow down the render a LOT and I was definitely going to be putting it in davinci anyway) All of its free software and I basically went scrounging for UA-cam tutorials for things I was doing, or just poked buttons until it did a thing I wanted (I do not know what half the controls do 😅)
That was pretty solid, I love how you nailed the TMP VFX. Only thing I have to point out is the camera movement, which could be smoother. But that's something I'm struggling with myself, so don't take this personally, I know how hard it is. Really nice work
@@manicpanda8741 yeah there's a couple of bits that jar and annoy me, but I'd reached the point I just needed to finish it and improve next time, or I'd drive myself insane 🤣 Getting smooth camera movement is surprisingly tricky!
@@manicpanda8741 constraining the camera to point at the shop works great!...right up until the point you want to point it somewhere else and then it becomes not good 😅
@@RingandRaven by the way, if you like to check, I did a Strange New Worlds intro remake a few months ago. I used Kerbal Space Program to build a replica of the Enterprise, replaced the game's skybox with a Greenscreen and edited everything else. I'd love to hear your opinion on that.
Hey, great work! You did an amazing job synthesizing the new with the old style and feel. Some of the ship and camera movements had a couple moments of stiffness in my opinion- maybe add some "stability noise" to some shots to help take some of those animations from great to amazing, and emulate the feel like there is a real camera being used, because the shots you've created are quite beautiful, particularly exit from warp. The coloring and composition are top notch. Looking forward to seeing what you create next!
@@isaacvail thank you! Yes something that had the vibe of the classic movies but still allowed for some of the more modern freedom of movement was the goal There's definitely a few moments of jankiness there (that haunt my dreams 😅), the big fix would mostly be improving my ship and camera motion in blender and play around with the curves and...controls and...twiddly knobs that do things 😅 For stability noise do you mean a camera shake? It's an interesting idea, is that something I'd want for mimicking those older ILM shots? Genuine question! They were all motion controlled and I thought tended to be pretty smooth (or are you suggesting a really small one thats not super visible but tricks the eye into being real? Rather than BSG style shaky cam 🤣)
@@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 I was going for TOS movie era style hull hugging effects rather than TNG style bubbles - so the orange energy crackle on the Klingon ship and the blue one on the Astraea are the shields. You just get bleedthrough from the torpedoes because they're that strong. To be strictly accurate this effect isn't meant to be shields in Wrath of Khan as the shields are down any time anyone gets hit, though they do have energised defence screens, whatever that means. But the same sort of effect is used in Search for Spock and most notably Undiscovered Country for ships on all sides. Torpedoes leave scorch marks and notable damage, alongside energy crackles when the shields block most but not all of the blast. Excelsior has more of a big light ripple effect and fully tanks the hit, but it's implicitly got newer stronger shields. When a torpedo *fully* punches through the shields you don't get the crackle and instead it rips straight through the hull, which is whats intended at the end of this one (that and setting off a core breach, hence the extra big boom). There's actually a bit of consistency in modern Trek where Disco and SNW are using hull hugging effects not dissimilar.
@@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 it's very subtle as it's mostly hidden under the explosion, but if you look closely when the Astraea is hit you'll see the hull is illuminated by a blue glow as well as the orange of the fireball. (Which fades away quickly, leaving only the crackling energy over the damaged section) if I was redoing it I'd probably make it more distinct
@@georgesulea it based on concept art by John Eaves and Greg Jein, so I named it the J'Gein 😅 Have a flyby video up and some WIP/Schematic renders here www.deviantart.com/fennius/gallery/94044346/j-gein-class-klingon-battlecruiser
Not sure about the “head” of the Klingon ship, looks a little too much like a squashed oval and isn’t as defined or detailed as I personally like but the rest was awesome. Love the starfleet ship
@@pakese30 the Klingon ship is actually based off John Eaves concept art. It looked a little starfleet until I rotated it around and it clicked down my head as a bigger slightly flatter BOP head
@@FeeriiEekii yeah I struggled with that but I was on a deadline and knew the editing would take me a good while so I didn't have time to keep poking it Lesson for next time!
@@thegooddoctor6719 oh god those jerky moments kill my soul 😭😅 and most of them would be super easy fixes if I went back into blender and re-rendered specific elements - the most obvious with the Astraea is harder to fix because of camera constraints, it would need fully redoing the motion and keyframing of the whole scene and it was doing my head in 🤣. But I was originally working to a November 1st deadline, and while I've more time now that got extended, I've also got stuff coming up and reached that point where you just need to finish a project and let the flaws stand or you drive yourself insane 🤣 (he said after pausing to retract explosions at 1:30 am because she spotted they weren't quite right just before he was going to upload😅) Thank you so much though!
Love the video, but you made it too easy for the Federation ship to win. If you do another video, the Klingon ship has to put up more of a fight! It really helps with tension and suspense.
You really should use story boards and plan out the ships combat maneuvers and camera angles those first seconds of the initial engagement where the Klingons just slowly move along while getting pounded by phaser fire is really unrealistic. Really like the design of the Feddie ship, the bow of the Klingon cruiser seems way out proportion I think half to three quarters of the size would be better. I know you were going for a command and control ship vibe here.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 less a planning issue and more a time/editing one. The slowness is mostly an attempt to get that movie era sailing ship vibe, but I'll acknowledge I probably should have edited that opening shot a little tighter, or had the Klingon ship show more reaction at first - it was planned to, and was going to be a longer fight as well with the klingons managing more than just one torpedo, but I was on a deadline for submission and had to cut sections of intended, which in turn makes the pacing a little more uneven - it was supposed to build to the slightly faster pace of the last shots rather than jump to it. For the Klingon ship it's modelled off John Eaves concept art, actually seemingly from the TNG era but since it was never used I backdated it. Disagree a little on the proportions though, I think if the bow was smaller the back would be too big, if it was simply narrower then you lose the defining feature and it just becomes a K'Tinga. I do think the back sections proportions aren't quite perfect though, a smidge bulky there.
@@covlinuxguy I've got a blender file/can export it, it's not at all had any of the setup stuff you need to do to 3D print, but I could send it over - on the condition that if you do get it ready for printing you send that file back to me because *I* want a desk copy too 🤣 (I can get access to a printer but never done the model prep before, no idea how much faff is involved)
That drop out of warp was possibly flawless
@@JBob-qv2fd the test version I've got in another video was even smoother and had a lot more detail in the effect, but I accidentally overwrote the save file 😭
(Though the less detailed glow here suits the film look possibly better)
@@RingandRaven it looked great as is. I actually slowed playback speed to 0.5 and rewatched it a few times.
I second this... And the Astraea is freaking gorgeous! :O Like, WOW.
@@sagesheahan6732 thank you!
Impressive variation of the nacelles attached to the saucer. That works. Cool Klingon variation as well.
I like the ship designs!!! A new, fresh take on the classics!
@@clrlmiller I'm all in on new takes but this is just not wirkin ( I know) at all it makes me think of something that got stuck in the washing machine on the spin cycle !!
Plus looks like they jacked ideas from other sci-fi shows and movies!!
@@jameslawhorn1905 I mean yes, I took ideas from star trek 😜
@@jameslawhorn1905 and the Klingon one is straight up an interpretation of concept art from John Eaves 😜
I absolutely love this!! Keeping the spirit of Star Trek alive!
wow. love the multi coloured drop out of warp and the woosh sound. reminds me of the early Movies - Wrath of Khan. hasthat big movie feel about it. love it
@@danieldalton8075 thank you! I was aiming for those movies in feel, and the warp trail in particular was me looking at the movie effects and trying to work out what's actually causing them, to realise what colour it should be for this ship 🤣
I'm currently planning out a kitbash of a post TOS/Pre-TMP starship and didn't want to do a standard secondary hull. This half hull is exactly what I was looking for!! Thanks for the idea!
@@Tybearius post TOS, Pre TMP is exactly what I was going for here too!
What sort of layout were you thinking?
The half hull idea came about as I was doing initial layout of shapes and it didn't have any secondary at all at first - I wanted something close in to keep the sleeker profile and it suddenly popped into my head. I figure it's a more primitive version of the sort of ideas that eventually go into shops like Excelsior
The Klingon ship didn't react until they had already taken damage from the Starfleet ship---did the Astraea use the planet's magnetic field to mask their approach?
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So to be fair I intended a longer, more even battle but was on a deadline and am still learning to do this, and the initial drop out of warp and firing was conceived off as happening a bit faster. The explanation in my head is that the Astraea is a new fast response ship and the Klingons weren't expecting anyone to show up this quickly, so they were doing what Klingons do and getting distracted by attacking the planet (honestly quite likely a bunch of them beaming down to the planet) leading to them being careless and a slow response from the bridge crew.
But the Astraea masking it's approach does sound very in keeping for Trek 😅
The Klingon ship pulling an Immelmann turn was pretty cool. The Astraea turning her ventral shield to absorb the ship's explosion was a nice touch. Well Done.
@@accastillo6046 yes! I had that thought! Having just taken a battering on the dorsal shields, it makes perfect sense to turn like that, both for the explosion and in case the Klingons got any more shots off.
But I *definitely* didn't realise that whilst colour grading, and definitely didn't originally put in because it looked cool. 😅
(You could probably justify the immelman under the same logic of not wanting to leave the damaged dorsal facing the enemy actually.)
Why neither ship uses their aft torpedoes is a question best left unanswered 😅
That maneuver in STVI was awesome to
reminds me of how I frequently turn my plane in WT, go into a vertical climb then an aerlion roll...it changes direction quicker han turning flat with the rudder.
The lighting and texturing is absolutely flawless.
This is, and has been since it was created as a concept one of my all time favorite federation starship designs! I love that you used this starship in the video, and this was a fun watch. I always get goose bumps when I hear the Klingon theme music as a bird of prey arrives. 10 x 10 quality, I loved it!
Very Nice ,I always love the music score from the first movie when the Klingon Battle Crusers are attacking what they have no idea of 😮
awesome ship design!! would have lovced if discovery was more in this style!
Love the look of the Astraea. Great job!
Neat ship designs, I mean really slick. The visual effects and lighting are top notch, imo. Good choreography too, and the music fits right in perfect. 10/10 🖖🏼
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 thank you!
Beautiful! Why is literally everything made by true fans so much better than anything Paramount has put out in over 10 years???
@@farazq TBF fair to studios they have much MUCH harsher time deadlines. This took probably a month from actually starting to animate to uploading and that's not counting planning or making the models which took a LOT longer.
All for less than three minutes of actual footage.
(Granted I'm doing evenings on and off, not in a studio as a full time job. A chunk of it will also be executives demanding certain art styles which are...not always favourable).
It's because Paramount has to run endless tests to make sure that no dolphins or whales are injured during filming. You know, just in case some virtual piece of space ship de-orbits and crashes into the ocean. Just ask Elon; he knows all about that. 🤨😏
So you so do know that this video heavily references Strange New Worlds, right? Sometimes I wonder if the people who post this sort of thing even really know that much about Star Trek.
@@admiralbob77 I'm really curious what SNW references you're seeing? There absolutely *are* some in the design of the Astraea, mostly on the nacelles iirc but also the design of the Starfleet pennant.
I wasn't *consciously* influenced by SNW for the animation itself, but I might have drawn on some unconsciously and I want to know what bits you see!
@@RingandRaven The combination of the ship name and the video title: Ad Astra Per Aspera, the recruiting phrase Commander Una Chin-Riley will one day be known for in the 24th century.
According to the Star Trek Technical Manual the NCC-1824 is the Constitution Class USS Rigel.
@@sabrewolf4129 look if its not on memory alpha it doesn't count! 😜
(I did actually check their list for a free number 😅🤣)
Music masterfully blended/transitions too!
@@jakoseto3398 thank you!
That honestly proved easier than I thought it would, but finding the right pieces and matching them up to the visual beats took a good few hours
Thankfully someone finally makes impulse sound and behave like actual exhaust-thrust engines.
@@michaelcristel3060 they're supposed to be fusion engines iirc but I swear to god those things are magic 🤣
TBF I do want to reserve the big fancy glows for those moments of distinct acceleration. It keeps the general feel of the movies if they're not having huge flares all the time, I want to visually reserve it for special moments, and also it's a post VFX that I'm tracking in (by hand because I'm not very familiar with how to do it yet 😅)
The way I've heard it is that the impulse engines are magic reactionless machines while the glowing red parts are just the exhausts of the fusion reactors that power them. Should still flare at high thrust either way, though.
Good yet, I would think deflector shields would absorb a few more.hits before hull dmg occurred.
@@matttrafton2725 I'm leaning more to the older TOS/,movie vibe of these being very powerful weapons that can end fights quickly....is my excuse 🤣 It was GOING to be a longer running battle but I ran out of time to get it finished so I had to simplify. It's why the klingons only get one torpedo off and don't even fire their disruptors (though the head logic is that first torpedo hitting centre of mass above their reactor royally screwed them over with the damage that bled through the shields
That was a great short video. Please do more.
@@mickeyholding7970 I plan to though probably not immediately as I'm super busy 😥
I like the choice of music from all the different movies.
@@tomgarges7045 thank you! Took a bit of time to search through bits that sounded right and match them to the visual beats, but less time than I expected!
@ You did a brilliant job! Smooth transitions with the music. 🙂👍
Very impressive.
People on the planet: yay starfleet is here!
Ship starts firing....
People on the planet: you missed? how could you miss a comparatively stationary target!
@@MrDobilina 🤣🤣🤣
@@MrDobilina "Legally, we have to fire a warning shot?"
People on the planet: Um, those missed shots are heading this way!
Beautiful, also the TMP aesthetics is kept 100%
@@descendinguniverse funny thing is that Klingon ship is based on TNG era concept art, but to me it fits in better in this era so I've repurposed it 😅
@@RingandRaven definitely looks like K`tinga variation. I`m also doing some animation for my upcoming Star Trek music cover video and use models from ENT era. Looking at D5, I also don`t think it belongs there 😄
Cool. I especially liked the transition from the warp bubble to sublight. Bonus points for the impulse engines kicking in
@@TobyJWoods thanks! I don't want to animate an impulse flare ever time the engines do anything but for bursts of acceleration it adds a nice something
Pretty cool ship design.
That was very good... Love the ship design as well !!!!
Really interesting ship designs! Great work.
Beautiful!
Great ship designs!
Awesome! Love the designs.
Glorious. The Federation ship should have launched a full spread of torpedoes dispersal pattern sierra to cure the Klingon ship of its belligerent ways 😂
@@Neklar certainly should have fired aft torpedoes after flying past, but it doesn't look as dramatic 😅
@RingandRaven the aft launcher may have been knocked out.
Great visuals, looks professional!
@@crimsonninja6995 thank you!
I am loving your UFP ship... to me it reads smaller than a Connie, a frigate or a surveyor with a lot of light duty missions... love to see a 5 view pic of this ship
@@paulreid7697 www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Ravenna-Class-Schematics-Classic-Blueprints-1034136328
I've got a couple more vids with flyarounds and such as well, and some other renders in the deviant art!
She's bigger than she looks, that saucer is most of the size of a Connie's, but yes it's a mid range explorer/fast response ship that's more compact than a Connie (honestly a bit like how the Miranda seems small but is bigger than people think in a direct comparison, I think possibly calced as having more internal volume even! )
I wish someone would use the TOS disruptor sound FX in something like this. Other than that, QAPLA!
''STAR FLEET: MESS WITH THE BEST, GO DOWN LIKE THE REST''. This message has been approved by The United Federation of Planets.
@@burtonwilliams5355 🤣
Excellent, Very Well Done. Loved it!
that Klingon ship looks like it could have been a first movie era Khitomer Alliance design.
@@sarreqteryx it's got a bit of that vibe to it, the original concept art in a way even more so as it gives it an off white hull. It wasn't until I started rotating around it after modelling that I realised it's a flattened out and embiggened BOP head!
Well Done!! BRAVO!
Lots of beautiful modelling, rendering, texturing, and fx work. The only thing holding this back is the stuttering in all of the camera pans. Considering this is a fan made project though, that's a minor sin easily forgiven. Well done.
@@GeoffreyToday huh, I'm not really seeing the stuttering - I believe you I'm very much still learning how to get the camera to move right. Is it a frame rate thing?
Looks great.
Love the look of the Astraea. Has that "between TOS and TMP" look to it that I always wanted to see.
Now I want to know more about her
@@wilemelliott exactly the vibe I wanted! idea is it's a cut down Connie that gives the same capabilities in a smaller package.
Ravenna class, higher top speed, shorter range, mid range explorer / quick response / colony support. Part of updating the fleet but not quite at the point they have the new movie era engines
www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Ravenna-Class-Schematics-Classic-Blueprints-1034136328
Very original series vibe.
NIcely done.
Creative!!! Excellent video!!
I love this original TOS-era design. Great job! Would love to see it next to a Connie for scale.
@@wolfjouett2048 www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Scale-Proposal-1031145587
Can't remember if this is what I settled on in the end with the stated stats, but certainly roughly this.
In overall terms she's bigger than you'd expect (those nacelles came out huge!), but the volume is noticeably smaller - I affectionately refer to her as a Pocket Connie 🤣 - the idea is the same general capabilities in a smaller space frame, sacrificing endurance for speed
The scaling was a faff though because I modelled the saucer using a reference image that seems to be quite inaccurate:
www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Scale-Errors-1031145578
Sonic I scaled the bridge to be the same size as intended then the ship ended up *huge*. So I ended up scaling more towards the deck sizes/saucer thickness iirc, which means the bridge module is a lot smaller than the Connie's (though I guess the bridge itself could be similar, and there's just less padding around it)
Still, scale errors are traditional in Trek 😅
the fed ship looks like a pioneer class light cruiser.
@@SKYNET_1.01 there *is* a similarity in the layout. Amusingly enough I actually had the Gagarin from Disco in my head when I first started setting out shapes, then had the idea for a half cut, close in secondary sling underneath
Thank you for the animation
Love the Warp effect. And That drop out of Warp was great! I hate modern Trek where the ships just "blip into existence" in a split second when drop out from warp.
Your Warp version has a lot more majesty and dignity. That transition out of warp was absolutely great. I watched it numerous times.
I enjoyed how you slowed down the ship quickly, but not TOO quickly. And you took a few seconds to transition from warp to normal speed. You treated the ships like large ships. You didn't treat them like jet Fighters (like modern Trek). Everything has weight in your version.
Great job.
@@TheBigExclusive thank you, and yes those were exactly my thoughts! I was tempted to have it accelerate a little faster after the dropout, because of the urgency, but the slightly slower one gives more sense of mass.
And I *hate* the blip/snap looks they're using these days for warp, it's just...utterly lacking in character
@@RingandRaven Everything is hyperspace now.
@compmanio36 every FTL is hyperspace and every weapon is a blaster!
I need specs for both ships, really well done❤
@@lanantz I have specs for one of them!
www.deviantart.com/fennius/art/Ravenna-Class-Schematics-Classic-Blueprints-1034136328
The Ravenna is basically taking the Connie and making it more compact, sacrificing range and endurance for speed. Mid range exploration, fast response, colony support - it's got the punch of a Connie in a smaller package, and most of the space outside the saucer is engines, cargo bays, and space for auxiliary craft if needed. Higher top speed, but lower cruising speed, and supports iirc 2/3s the crew for more internal and border missions rather than the long term, five years in deep space ones.
The J'Gein class I've not done any stats for, but I'm envisioning it as reasonably comparable to a K'Tinga, geared more towards long range deep strikes.
Very well done.
Fascinating
@@ForgedbyLight Remarkable 😜
Those designs are gorgeous. Aces.
Quite a glorious render
That was AWSOME, the HITS and Explosiono and the music , AMAZING, nice job !
@@jameshoopingarner thank you! There's hard limits to what I know how to do in Blender but layering stuff up in post has worked pretty well (even if I see every glaring error 😅)
I think I pulled the music from ....four different Trek movies? Just clicking through UA-cam playlists until I found pieces I thought matched the scenes (some bits extremely well, like the pull back shot from the klingon's that reveals the incoming Astraea - that ones all one piece, I just matched the moment it changed to the good guy theme to the Astraea's appearance and it worked quite well 😅 )
Great ship designs
The ship of Starfleet is beautiful ❤
Interesting ship design. Looks like a transitional stage between the TOS TV era and the TOS movie era aesthetics.
I loved it! I am always happy to see Klingons go boom. I have been a huge Romulan fan since the 70's. Could you make a film with them please? I would love to see some non-canon Romulan ships instead of the Bird-of-Prey. FASA had alot of cool designs, perhaps you could draw from them?
@@tb7771 I do actually want to do a Romulan ship, always liked them more than the klingons too! Had a couple of ideas for simple models but not made anything decent yet. Not a personal fan of the FASA aesthetic though.
So eventually it's in the to do list!
Howard Day has a short snippets with some movie era Romulans on his channel though, it's the level I aspire to!
@@RingandRaven I'll check him out thanks. I am elated to hear you you want to work on a Romulan ship! I can't wait to see it!
The Nova Class Battleship is a good one or the Winged Defender, the others, not so much.
Nice looking Ship
The ships are badass… are they cgi or physical models?
@@timrose9826 all CG!
Three dimensional maneuvering, that works! 🚀😄
Magnificent. I liked the angle that the ship came in on to attack. Too often these battles seem too 2 dimensional. Well done.
@@raoultittel thank you! I wanted to keep that movie era feel of big slow moving things, but a little bit of more modern in some of the angles and such
I hope that fan series become a trend.
Holy shit this is amazing!
@@JustinSVT1000 thank you!
*Coolness!* ⭐😃👍
bortas bir jabluzdiz reh qaqkuz nayz. bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay'. Revenge is a dish which is best served cold.
Fantastic work! What software did you use?
@@jamezxh so being weird I modelled the ships in Wings 3D - it's not the most powerful but it's got an intuitive user interface I learned years ago, and I call it a comfort modeller I can just pick up and go.
I then ported them to Blender to texture, and do the animation, it's way more powerful and I should really learn to model in it too 😅
I then ported THOSE results over to Davinci Resolve to edit the video and do all the post processing effects and such (I didn't use the composition node sin blender, they can give very good results but slow down the render a LOT and I was definitely going to be putting it in davinci anyway)
All of its free software and I basically went scrounging for UA-cam tutorials for things I was doing, or just poked buttons until it did a thing I wanted (I do not know what half the controls do 😅)
Love the Astraea's design!!!
Bring these beauties to Star Trek Online! Guaranteed sellers.
That was pretty solid, I love how you nailed the TMP VFX. Only thing I have to point out is the camera movement, which could be smoother. But that's something I'm struggling with myself, so don't take this personally, I know how hard it is. Really nice work
@@manicpanda8741 yeah there's a couple of bits that jar and annoy me, but I'd reached the point I just needed to finish it and improve next time, or I'd drive myself insane 🤣
Getting smooth camera movement is surprisingly tricky!
@RingandRaven you have no idea how much I can relate. Some aspects still remain a mystery to me (and apparently to most people)
@@manicpanda8741 constraining the camera to point at the shop works great!...right up until the point you want to point it somewhere else and then it becomes not good 😅
@@RingandRaven what Software do you use?
@@RingandRaven by the way, if you like to check, I did a Strange New Worlds intro remake a few months ago. I used Kerbal Space Program to build a replica of the Enterprise, replaced the game's skybox with a Greenscreen and edited everything else. I'd love to hear your opinion on that.
Very cool !! 😎👍
Hey, great work! You did an amazing job synthesizing the new with the old style and feel. Some of the ship and camera movements had a couple moments of stiffness in my opinion- maybe add some "stability noise" to some shots to help take some of those animations from great to amazing, and emulate the feel like there is a real camera being used, because the shots you've created are quite beautiful, particularly exit from warp. The coloring and composition are top notch. Looking forward to seeing what you create next!
@@isaacvail thank you! Yes something that had the vibe of the classic movies but still allowed for some of the more modern freedom of movement was the goal
There's definitely a few moments of jankiness there (that haunt my dreams 😅), the big fix would mostly be improving my ship and camera motion in blender and play around with the curves and...controls and...twiddly knobs that do things 😅
For stability noise do you mean a camera shake? It's an interesting idea, is that something I'd want for mimicking those older ILM shots? Genuine question!
They were all motion controlled and I thought tended to be pretty smooth (or are you suggesting a really small one thats not super visible but tricks the eye into being real? Rather than BSG style shaky cam 🤣)
Nice animation. But where were the shields on both ships. Every shot and torpedo seemed to directly impact the hull.
@@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 I was going for TOS movie era style hull hugging effects rather than TNG style bubbles - so the orange energy crackle on the Klingon ship and the blue one on the Astraea are the shields. You just get bleedthrough from the torpedoes because they're that strong.
To be strictly accurate this effect isn't meant to be shields in Wrath of Khan as the shields are down any time anyone gets hit, though they do have energised defence screens, whatever that means.
But the same sort of effect is used in Search for Spock and most notably Undiscovered Country for ships on all sides. Torpedoes leave scorch marks and notable damage, alongside energy crackles when the shields block most but not all of the blast. Excelsior has more of a big light ripple effect and fully tanks the hit, but it's implicitly got newer stronger shields. When a torpedo *fully* punches through the shields you don't get the crackle and instead it rips straight through the hull, which is whats intended at the end of this one (that and setting off a core breach, hence the extra big boom).
There's actually a bit of consistency in modern Trek where Disco and SNW are using hull hugging effects not dissimilar.
@@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 it's very subtle as it's mostly hidden under the explosion, but if you look closely when the Astraea is hit you'll see the hull is illuminated by a blue glow as well as the orange of the fireball. (Which fades away quickly, leaving only the crackling energy over the damaged section) if I was redoing it I'd probably make it more distinct
Very cool and well done; any name for the Klingon design?
@@georgesulea it based on concept art by John Eaves and Greg Jein, so I named it the J'Gein 😅
Have a flyby video up and some WIP/Schematic renders here
www.deviantart.com/fennius/gallery/94044346/j-gein-class-klingon-battlecruiser
Brought a tear to me eye....
Shared for the algorithm.
Beautiful
Beautiful.
Thank you.
Not sure about the “head” of the Klingon ship, looks a little too much like a squashed oval and isn’t as defined or detailed as I personally like but the rest was awesome. Love the starfleet ship
@@pakese30 the Klingon ship is actually based off John Eaves concept art. It looked a little starfleet until I rotated it around and it clicked down my head as a bigger slightly flatter BOP head
I guess the ship couldn't raise shields in time. Next battle it should be having them up against the klingons or romulans 😊 just saying
@@darian1968 might take me a *while*, but it's on the to do list!
Interesting ship designs.
Awesome stuff, great designs 👍 Minor quibble: the camerawork felt a bit wonky during the battle.
@@FeeriiEekii yeah I struggled with that but I was on a deadline and knew the editing would take me a good while so I didn't have time to keep poking it
Lesson for next time!
@RingandRaven still great stuff; the designs, atmosphere, render quality are 👌👌👌 keep being awesome👍
@FeeriiEekii thank you!
I like the way she turned for a belly tan-
Good looking ship.
Muito bom 👏👏👏
Ok - giving it straight up. Other than the occasional jerky un-natural movements. Rock Solid Effects. Nicely done !!!!!!
@@thegooddoctor6719 oh god those jerky moments kill my soul 😭😅 and most of them would be super easy fixes if I went back into blender and re-rendered specific elements - the most obvious with the Astraea is harder to fix because of camera constraints, it would need fully redoing the motion and keyframing of the whole scene and it was doing my head in 🤣. But I was originally working to a November 1st deadline, and while I've more time now that got extended, I've also got stuff coming up and reached that point where you just need to finish a project and let the flaws stand or you drive yourself insane 🤣 (he said after pausing to retract explosions at 1:30 am because she spotted they weren't quite right just before he was going to upload😅)
Thank you so much though!
@@RingandRaven Most other like videos I see are Videos Game Quality Cut Scenes. Yours are not. Again nicely done !!!!!
You should stat these ships out in Star Trek Adventures 2ED (and 1st ED) and release them with the 3D images.
I like the changes to the ships, prob helps bypass copyright also, not sure on that part lol. But all all, damn fine job
@@billiejoeallgood5200 more that I like making my own models - the starfleet one is wholly my design the Klingon one is based on concept art 😅
Love the video, but you made it too easy for the Federation ship to win. If you do another video, the Klingon ship has to put up more of a fight! It really helps with tension and suspense.
@@TheBigExclusive oh absolutely and this would have been a tougher fight if I hadn't been on a deadline 😅
Very cool
Nice. Thank You. 👍
NIce work.
What type if klingon vessel is that
You really should use story boards and plan out the ships combat maneuvers and camera angles those first seconds of the initial engagement where the Klingons just slowly move along while getting pounded by phaser fire is really unrealistic. Really like the design of the Feddie ship, the bow of the Klingon cruiser seems way out proportion I think half to three quarters of the size would be better. I know you were going for a command and control ship vibe here.
@@patrickradcliffe3837 less a planning issue and more a time/editing one. The slowness is mostly an attempt to get that movie era sailing ship vibe, but I'll acknowledge I probably should have edited that opening shot a little tighter, or had the Klingon ship show more reaction at first - it was planned to, and was going to be a longer fight as well with the klingons managing more than just one torpedo, but I was on a deadline for submission and had to cut sections of intended, which in turn makes the pacing a little more uneven - it was supposed to build to the slightly faster pace of the last shots rather than jump to it.
For the Klingon ship it's modelled off John Eaves concept art, actually seemingly from the TNG era but since it was never used I backdated it. Disagree a little on the proportions though, I think if the bow was smaller the back would be too big, if it was simply narrower then you lose the defining feature and it just becomes a K'Tinga. I do think the back sections proportions aren't quite perfect though, a smidge bulky there.
WOW, Nice Federation Ship Design, would it be possible to get the mesh file for it as I'd love a model of that for my desk:-)
@@covlinuxguy I've got a blender file/can export it, it's not at all had any of the setup stuff you need to do to 3D print, but I could send it over - on the condition that if you do get it ready for printing you send that file back to me because *I* want a desk copy too 🤣
(I can get access to a printer but never done the model prep before, no idea how much faff is involved)
love it
Was that the Jupiter II from the movie as the bridge of the Klingon ship?
@@Póg-mo-thóin-repeat 🤣 no but I can see the vibe! Its based on concept art by John Eaves
Decent deployment of LOTS of ST movie music lol
@@louisbrantmeyer8786 IIRC it's....1, 3,4 and 6? 😅