The Lagoon 55 Space Ship - a cruising cat that redefines volume
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- Wait till you see the aft cabins... this Lagoon 55 with all its extra options is essentially a self-contained €1.7m resort. Toby Hodges sails the first of Lagoon's latest cruising cats
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One of the best layouts I've ever seen on a cat this size. Thanx Toby, top presentation as I've come to expect of you
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Stefan
Very well shown….simply beautiful!
Love your job, Toby! 👍🏽
that boom is comically high! All of the sail area exactly where you want - as high as possible, LOL.
Tourists love that fly bridge though.
A real sailor appreciates physics though.
It get people where they wanna go,
@@solaireastora5394
It’s slow, and inefficient.
@@dalesmth1 so what?
@@vincent5
Do you have a point besides your head?
Great peek. Thanks. These cats are not for exploring the North Atlantic in harrowing winds, which is fine cause I don't want to do that. People report they spend most of their time at a warm-water anchorage anyway. Might as well have a floating condo. I was on a Bali 5.4 this summer and the wife fell in love. The Lagoon is nice, but lacks the living space of the Bali. People buy these big cats for the lifestyle, not hard-water crossings (which they can do, albeit uncomfortably). Might as well get the most lifestyle for the buck. For the money I think we're still aiming at the Bali, though maybe the 4.8.
I don’t like all the cabins, I much rather have a way bigger master and say 2 guest cabins. Having all those guest cabins seems stupid. If I’m sailing with me and my lady I don’t want 3 other couples on a boat that’s only 55ft. Not saying it’s a small boat but it’s small when theirs 8 plus people on board. Why is it the older 50 plus foot cats seem to have really cool master bedrooms that take up the whole front part of the ship, I can’t remember the UA-cam family that has one but it’s really cool.
@@marcuslarwa9098 Most of these cats are sold into the charter market, where 8-10 guests pay 20-30K per week. The destination-tourism trade exploded about ten years back. You can still order most new cats in 'owner's editions' the way you want (fewer/larger rooms). Catana/Bali even created a boat (the 4.8) that is a bit smaller than their flagship charter boat (the 5.4), specifically to cater to potential owners. But it's also configurable as a charter. I think most charter operators would go the full 5.4, though. I'm looking at the 4.8 as a possibility in a few years, as I get ready to retire.
@@FamilyManMoving yea as a business that makes sense but like I said if I were getting it to sail around the world with my lady I’d much rather have less rooms that were bigger.
@@marcuslarwa9098 They probably have an "owners" version
Hodges! You have the best job in the world!
Great review as always
Love it. Lagoon needs to open some new factories . I'm sold.
Gorgeous !
I like for Lagoon to answer these question as followed directly. " Do the 55 lagoon have a structural problems that compromises the yacht performance, stability and safety." Are the problems with its previous model(s) are to be expected on this year 2022 Lagoon 55? If not... Will Lagoon guarantee its hull with a buy-back if there are problems with its structure e.g., streaky floor, bulkhead integrity and related issues? The yacht looks great . I just hope that it meets superior building standards.
There are hull problems with older models?
@@UTube-gs1yf I've seen bulkheads on older models built not to satisfying standards
Need one for the Caribbean waters 😊 loving it
Hope they budgeted for strong enough main structural athwartships bulkhead. Lagoon is infamous for their Failures on cats.
just was thinking of the bulk head failures that seem to plague this brand.. interior wise shes a beauty but more of a sailing apartment which should concern us all...
Getting a Bali 5.4 by Catana (6 cabins),very strong hull; and can be fast if you have the know-how. It loves the heavy seas, too.
A great place to call home.
gorgeous!
It's a lovely apartment, if I wanted a proper yacht it would be an Explocat 52!
Would be absolutely perfect for a week in the BVI’s, put the sails up for 30 minutes or so for show, then anchor up and it’s time for margaritas! Could you imagine having to tend to the mainsail in 3-4 meter waves in a seaway 20’ off the water? Great boats for what they are though.
Flash Floating Apartment but it’s a bit IKEA looking inside, sharp corners everywhere, did I hear a creaking floor walking into the master? The high fly bridge and mast would put me off taking it anywhere serious with weather but nice for a fine weather charter.
Alot of creaking on a flat calm marina, very worrying to think they've already got 50 orders.
You can afford one don’t worry bud
It's a beautiful boat. Two issues that would end the possibility of buying, the bulkhead problems that will harm over a thousand people with defective boats, and the other issue that drives me nuts about all of the Lagoons I have been on is creaky floors. Why can't Lagoon get rid of their problems with creaky floors, they creak when you walk on them and they creak the whole time while underway. I could hear them the whole time you were walking around.
Could the bulkheads and the creaking possibly be related?...
@@angela1984a I believe so. A lot of the bulkheads weren't cut right or attached on Parley revival.
The bulkhead probs were only on one model according to Parlay Revival. Unless there has been something recent. Haven't seen anything about others since he toured factory and met with reps of company.
@@terrykeever3280 Sailing Zingaro where abord a Lagoon 500 while underway. That boat also creaked like crazy. You can search for that video on his channel. Just type in "Lagoon" in the search window... So if it is those two models - then why couldn't it be a problem on more models? I'm not familiar with the entire Lagoon range though...
Same builder, most likely same issues.
The design just makes me wonder how practical the top deck and helm station is with bad weather. There is nowhere else to steer the boat from and I doubt you want to be out there in a rain storm or even in really large waves during a passage…
I agree, and I am wondering how that superstructure will hold up to large breaking waves, and what that does for the overall stability of the boat. Yikes.
I assume it’s enclosable, but I agree that heavy weather “manage your yacht in a heavy squall” type situations need more explanation. If you’re going to do long term blue watering, you’re going to get hit - hard - more than once.
That's why you should buy an Amel.
@@rouslant An Amel is a completely different vessel (monohull vs cat.) Cat people want a luxury ride. With that said, I would much rather be in Amel during heavy weather since the helm is well protected. I never liked an "open" helm design found in many cats. Amel will always (for the foreseeable future) be a better blue water sailor than any cat.
@@scotthampton8741 a "boat for good weather" is like training for a boxing fight preparing only for "little punches". The sea is the sea, anything that can't stand 80+ knots winds isn't a boat, just a floating coffin. And that boom 7 or 8 meters above sea level is just a call to capsize.
great review GREAT cat !!! BUt yup worried bout lack of safety rails on all relax areas
impressive !
Has anyone checked the engineering specs for bulkhead strength on this model?
Dream one. thank you for sharing
There are so many cushions and breakables on the many decks, I have to wonder where it all goes if a squall is sighted, giving you short notice to get ready for it. Where does it all go and is there a drill for doing it?
All Multi hull manufacturers are offering amazing amount of space, have been for a long time.
Tough job Toby!
Hmm, Lagoon cats have had issues with bulkhead failures... have they addressed these issues in new designs/builds and what are they doing for owners who have cats with bad bulkheads?
They should be recalling and repairing all the broken bulkheads. Hopefully they'll fix the issue. CRAZY!!!
That guest cabin and bed is bigger than most center cockpit monos. Damn.
Have they upgraded the bulkhead construction?
That’s a great question lol
The real question is have they upgraded the engineering staff? The bulkheads are built exactly to the head engineer’s requirements.
@@RA-gk5zg Engineer? I thought they only had an interior designer (from Ikea) and built around that.
I know Covid has made it difficult to get a hold of one of the following, but anyone else that wants to see something about the Rapido 60 and/or the Bañuls 53 tri?...
If I can get aboard one I'll happily try and show the results Angela! Especially if they can bring them to Europe
@@yachtingworld Rapido 50 hull #1 in Spain
Im gonna buy this boat one day
No mask needed on sailboat, I am sold.
Great review Toby, but you should have addressed the bulkhead issue. Are they now carbon reinforced? They should be.
Check those Bulkheads lol ;)
Well... If they haven't adressed that issue in production by now - then this company probably isn't going to last very long...
@@angela1984a Yeah I’m sure they have. It was only said in jest. 👍👍
@@angela1984a it´s a FRENCH boat, not German, or Dutch, it´s French tech... I have seen Bulkheads broken fee from the hull on Jeanneaus enough, they build poor and sell high
@@Iam-mad Outremer and CNB are also French boats... I honestly don't think Lagoon being French is the problem here...
@@angela1984a Have You been in France? Did You own a french car? Have You been tricked by french sellers?
UA-cam is full of sailing-channels in troubles with broken this and malefunctioning that.
A french bowthruster is not to be used permanentely, because the cable melts, it´s not "designed" for permanent use. A dutch boat has hydraulic bow thruster. You can thrust as long as You want.
How’s the bulkheads?
MFI comes to mind when you hear all that creaking on a flat calm marina.
Definitely for the charter business.
nice charter boat. would never take it off shore.
wribg
The greatest depth of the sailboat design should be at the stem of the boat. The point midway between the mast and forestay should be the deepest point of the sailboat design. This increases the lateral resistance for the headsails and improves sail power and rudder control in high wind. Normal on keel design and normally refered to as seaworthy. When the bow of the boat has the most lateral resistance the boat is said to be seaworthy.
How strong are the bulkheads? 1cm thick plywood?!?!?! €1.7m for a 500k build quality cat seems a bit rough!
Lagoon earned the reputation for some sketchy production but I don't think and hopefully it won't be carried over to this
Ever since I saw the first gunboat I am no longer attracted to these with flybridge at all
It’s all nice until the first bad weather
The cabins are spacious but I would definitely throw out the carpets
And another interesting fact for me is the small water tanks considering the number of people that can be on board
This will have a watermaker optioned by every owner for sure
@@MetalMike50 That's for sure.
Maybe the technical part of the yacht will be shown a little more next time
Because I see that there is an option for a fully electric powertrain instead of diesel engines this will be very popular in the years to come
@@MetalMike50 All very well but you still need to store the water for extended offshore passage making. Water makers stop working at the most inopportune times.
@@vorda400 you really thought you were doing something by comparing a ferrari to a bus
@@pred7949 There are better comparisons than Ferrari because these new buses look comfortable
I was thinking about the design as a whole, not so much (although they are important) the performance
Because when you do the math, even this boat is not cheap, and then again you wonder if the investment was worth it in the end, so you still have to upgrade everything, in the end you need to gather experience and see what you actually need
Start production in Sept. 22? I don't know what their build time is, but with such a long order list, you're looking at at least two years to get your CAT.😮
You can't get any other cat now without wait at least 2 years. Unless some one step out from order and your dealer lucky be good kisser of right ass to increase his sales
32 month
Great flowting summer hub at the dock or anchor but extreme noisy. Cracks from everywhere. Cannot sail well like HH or Outremer either. This vessel is likely success in charterworld. As a floating vacation home layout is super.
The accommodations look amazing but the sailing looks like an afterthought.
Ok i watched 5 seconds of the vid.. i saw the rigging and flybridge.. and my first thought was... its going to turtle upside down in 20knot winds lol.. mind you.. it would be safer upside down anyways... did a 2 year old design this thing?
Good to see you Toby! You're going grey!
Has it been that long? Thanks for sharing this great vessel.
Ha! Trick of the light/bleached by the sun...
been grey for years Chris - and this pandemic isn't exactly rejuvenating!
Sailing island. lol. Beautiful cat.
What has Lagoon done to fix the common bulk head failures?
Those were built ten years ago and they have changed their build practice... from what they showed Zattara ..🤷🏻♂️
But i still dont like the open fly bridge concept its a seasonal Mediteranian plus Holliday's boat some nice styling and lots of features but a skin cancer or hypothermia boat to sail.
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 One reported by Zingaro was 2 years old. Still, what was done for those owners
@@ckh2815
I think from what i remember in his report... they arranged a programme of inspections and offered remedial works to those vessels that hadnt been reported as having had hurricane damage or accidental groundings..
Its either in the end of the video where he visits the factory to discuss the matter or the one after that. 🤔👍🏼
With oceanic warming generating more high energy weather events from squalls, bombs and thunderstorms up to Hurricanes and Typhoons breaking out of their traditional ranges both geographically and seasonally.
Seakeeping and easy safe handling will become more of an incentive for the extended cruisers and live aboard's.
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Do you mean Zatara? They do not have a Lagoon. They have a Privilège. And as far as I know they do not have any kind of bulkhead issues...
@@angela1984a
I know the boat and the model and the guy who owns it and what he does and that he had Odd life Crafting to stay on route to the last boat show.
But i may have got my channel names crossed. 😂🤦🏻♂️ Put me right pls.
Definitely in need of railings around the bridge
There's a deeper, closer relationship to be had between sailor and sea if wind, instead of diesel, is the chosen mean of propulsion.
Well with sail area on this 55 so dismal you wont ever be sailing
oçeàñ vólyt be gràt 2 55 kw natrrsß
Wow, just wow. Always yearned for a mono but this boat is changing my mind
Since approx same price, it deends if you stay in the islands or sail the world. Lagoon has the superb cabins and flybridge....the explocat the speed, the robust structure and keeps its value !!!! I'll take a lagoon....for antartica, I will call Ponant 😂
We get it ... A lot of space
As a sailor with my fair share of sailing in rough conditions I think this boat would be a death trap.
Looks dodgy...everywhere
@@inhale.exhale.2527 A day sailer at best
Please can you give your reason why you think that way.
@@ckbond41 first thing I noticed was the “stairs” up to the top flybridge. The narrator said the same thing I did “could use a handle rail along here”. Imagine yourself in a semi-rough sea, the boat rocking a bit and you trying to claw your way up those steps. The higher up you get the more pronounced the sea swell becomes. Its all well and good if you plan to just anchor it and motor in calm seas from island to island, but best laid plans of mice and sailors. Also my guess is more than one or two drunk guests will go sliding into the water along one of those walkways. Again any sea chop or motion will put many sailors and passengers in the water if there is not something to grab onto. The rule is “one hand for me and one hand for the boat” meaning you always want something you can grab onto while moving on deck. That boat as very few handholds and lots of place that come up to your knees. Any motion from the ocean will kick your legs out from under you as you hit your knees and put you in the water.
@@viking8889 Thanks for the info, really appreciate it.
Look at the hobby horsing even in light breeze, not enough boyancy in the bows!
All of you talking about the bulkheads should watch Parlay Revival's videos. These probs were on one model and have been addressed. Watch his videos for what the issue is on a large number of this one model.
Looks amazing !! ⛵
Exactly.
Hello, I need to know how much costs all maintenance for the year of Lagoon55 ? Please, I can't find anything information online. Just tell around, I hope not 100.000 per year. Thank you
Is this the Charter version?
This boat is a life-dream come true... too bad, dreams are dreams, not for common basic-money people ! :( ...still, it is, a solid dream of mine 😘
That is better rudder control in high wind also.
On a windy and rainy day Sailing will be really wet
No owners version with 3 cabins?
Isn't this the company that had all those boats split almost in half and they refused to warrantee them?
Where do all those cushions go in inclement weather?
The dock, which is where most of these will be.
One of the twenty spare bedrooms in that floating condo. :)
No TVs?
Seems like a lot of hobby horsing for a 55 ft boat in relatively benign seas.
Why is it so wobbly?
Have they built any more like the 67 sport lagoon . Made with a lot of carbon fiber as one was, indigo.
buy ot
@@sharonbraselton4302 a million bucks for the 67 sport Lagoon Indigo.
I like that. Very good value too. I have always been against multihull’s but this does change my view:-)
Why are you against multihulls?
Is the €1.7m price for the base model, or the upgraded version which makes it immediately sail-ready and luxurious?
Prices are on the specs at the end Leon. Base price starts at €1.139m ex Tax. The boat shown with its various options is €1.7m
@@yachtingworld Oops... The doorbell rang near the end and I stepped away and missed that. Sorry and Thank You!
Pretty nice cat...except for that fly bridge. Delete that completely, drop the main sail boom (and requisite mast height) by 10 feet, and cover the remaining roof with solar and you'd have something. As is, it's just another condo-maran. Cannot understand why people like that sort of thing, but apparently they do with 50 preproduction purchases on the books.
She's a beauty. Imagine having the terrible job of sailing her around the world to give Lagoon recommendations.
WARNING: Some idiot mentioning bulkheads in 5...4...3...
How special. A 55 foot catamaran with a walk in shower?
Probably should have that in all cabins on every 55 foot floating apartment cat.
Noob question: why do sailing cats have trampolines but power cats can have a full front cockpit.
Bali has solid foredecks on the sailing cats, but I think they are alone. I think for everyone else there are some legacy choices in cat architecture having to do with designs built around older materials and methods. Makers are starting to lift the foredecks and connect them. Trampolines on some modern designs have shrunk to the point they might as well go full deck, ala Bali.
Gunboat 68 ....
buyvít
Engines?
I wonder if its going to have the delamination and seperation issues that the 42 had??!??
😂😂🙈👓 ….in weather like this😉🌏🙈
i dont know if i like how this boats sails it seems to me its bow hits low into the waves it would worry me that is could really take a nose dive, L.A Rob
Everybody hating on this Lagoon should ask themselves why are they so successful then? And so much criticism for the interior design but don't they know you can customise the decoration when you order the boat? And that all luxury boatbuilders in that price range offer the same minimalistic style? What are they doing commenting this video if they have no idea what they're talking about?
that’s a houseboat
wriñg hirse sola ekrrc ¹86 kw bayer ³2 kw sil ceks 155 moh çat 5 hjrçañ rated
Check the BULKHEADS... ASAP!
I’m not sure if it was an optical illusion or not but the bow seemed low in the water while the stern was high? Seemed to be nosing into the shallow waves? Obviously a day trip boat? No solar provision? Open exposed to the weather top cockpit? 50 sold before making production? Hmmmm. Not for me. I think lagoon needs some new designers?
Flybridge? that's a nope from us.
That definitely doesn't look like a fun, (or safe) place to be in weather.
@@tinyb69 Unless your a South African nutter like Catamaran Impi... lolol
It's OK if you don't want to go anywhere but hang around anchorages, but not practical for long passages with rough weather. And that fly bridge is just plain daft for a sailing boat.
If you're after a Lagoon 45 there's a billion of them for sale right now. I wonder why 🤔 😂
buy 45 firee miee eco frinñdley
So you found 50 suckers to pay for thin bulkheads?
Just watched sailing Nahoa
Big problems with bulkhead issues.
This cat well how do you sort boom issues in big seas?
Windage? Really high bridge and dangerous.
Its a cat for light weather sailing and small seas thats it.
Personally i wouldnt trust the designs or the build quality.
Go for a Privilage or Xquisite
They are a different league, no creaking or major banging
Hoping to see more solar powered yachts hit the market...
faciamo uno volta klaro, non sono inamorato e ne anke sposato, chi sono qualce promessi e domumenti su le tavoli, non vermarti, vediamo, oder was denkst Du Markus?
Can I have your job please Toby?
It’s $1 million USD less than the Privilege 580.
And you can see why!
"Perfect size for a couple"
-Half the new owners, probably
The bow was getting buried in light seas. Imagine bad weather. Boat would be flipped...
Have they learned how to bond bulheads yet?
man every comment is about bulkheads that little snafu is going to hurt lagoon for awhile
So what do you do if you have a problem with your boom? Moving the sail area up apart from massively lowering your performance especially in light winds just makes the boat top heavy. I suppose you don't have to worry about the boat flipping though, you're permanently reefed lol. Fly bridges on sailing boats has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
It's the same reason there are sports cars and RVs. Some want to go fast and enjoy the wind, some want to get somewhere in comfort and enjoy the location. There is no 'one size fits all' options for anything really. This is just another option.
@@jazzyrick exactly
Is this a paid advert?