@@AlbertRazzer These aren't actual Critics tho, it's supposed to be comedic and hypocritical, From Everything Wrong with CinemaSins: "We're not critics, we're ASSHOLES"
Like hes just straight up saying a bunch of bs. Its like he hasnt watched the movie. For example he mentioned that when they were landing grievous ship he said "why didnt they use any escape pods" WHEN HE LITTERALY SHOWS GRIEVOUS DEPLOYING ALL OF THEM SO THEY COULDNT ESCAPE.
@@Frozo-nt2ky Yea he definitely does... by winning? How tf was he supposed to know Anakin had family issues? I mean his side of the plan went perfectly.
+777 MangaKing 777 would you know this only watching the movie? i agree, but jeremy goes by the movie and not the source material or, in this case, expanded universe, of the the movie/franchise
+Josiah Matthews You can clearly see flesh in his eye sockets for his mask, not to mention his organs later on. I don't think it takes a genius to figure out Grievous is not a full-on robot.
What's funny is the prophecy is not misread,but misinterpreted. The Jedi out of arrogance assumed that the prophecy meant their side of the force wins.When in reality it was BALANCE to the force not winning. At the end of III we see balance two Jedi and two Sith. Anakin did bring balance to the force and at the end of VI the balance was destroyed. I always find it funny that people did not see that.
+Emperor Nero Just proves how stupid the prequel Jedi are. There are thousands of Jedi and only two Sith; ergo thousands of Jedi have to die in order to balance the Force. a child could see that.
I feel like no one realizes grievous wasn’t a robot yes he has cybernetics but he can still cough there is still an organic life form under that metal😂
@@pokespartytv8086 While that is pretty true, this is the third movie (okay, sixth) in a pretty massive franchise and is set towards the events of a massive war. By this point in the timeline, you kind of need that extra media to have a full grasp of the situation. It would be a bigger sin to have all the characters act like everything is new information to them, given they're all Generals at this point. Also a few of the sins, like Palpatine risking himself in the crashing ship, kind of show how nit-picking this list was. "Behind-the-scenes control?" of course it was, the entire franchise is pretty much based on Palpatine behind-the-scenes'ing everything.
@@jaxmtl67 Lucas didn't need two animated shows, five books, and three comics to destroy the Death Star, and introduce Luke to his father, why should he need all that the second time around?
@@cyqry It doesn't matter how big the conflict is or the fact that its star wars. The movies should be able to stand on their own in giving a cohesive story. If you need to watch a cartoon series to understand a character and actually get some cool stuff out of them, then that's a failure on the movie's part. I watched the 2d animated clone wars series before seeing rots so I was well aware of who grievous was and even why he had such a bad cough and couldnt fight well. But for a fan or casual viewer who only watches the movies, grievous feels really out of place, poorly defined, and ultimately a character who's only purpose is to give obiwan someone to fight in the middle of the movie. Pretty jarring, if you ask me. Return of the jedi was also the third movie in a trilogy that served as the conclusion to a massive war and it sure as shit didn't need a cartoon to explain anything.
12:02 Seriously? This was such a good scene. The music and lack of dialogue forced deep thought about the seriousness of the situation and what Anakin must be thinking.
3:07 this sin is unnecessary A few scenes before it was said that all escape pods were activated when grievous abandoned the ship So this is their OLNY way of survival since they lost the hangar bay and there are no escape pods left
@@chrisbaker9704 I know... I know. I wrote 'basically' cause not everyone has watched clone wars and his rank is not very much clear in revenge of the sith so I didn't want anyone to point that out.
"Anakin... Something wonderful has happened. ...I'm pregnant!" "That's... that's wonderf-- Wait a second, I've been deployed to the Outer Rim Sieges for the last three years!"
HalalBoi9021 I don’t remember anyone asking what his IQ was. Also, that’s literally the whole point of this channel. Watch “everything wrong with cinemasins”
does it matter? it's still a sin for bad storytelling. Most viewers just watch the films with no extra info, so it's weird when a trilogy doesn't tie into the last film at all. What was the point of the big showdown then if it was apparently turned around again off screen.
GLaDOS Grievous Kind of the point. Now, I know that the Jedi are complete idiots who cannot think for themselves and need the Force to smack them on the head about *everything*, but they specifically went on a rescue mission to recover the Supreme Chancellor - in two tiny one-man fighters! How were they planning to get him off of the Invisible Hand? Surely sticking him in an escape pod and firing it off in the middle of a huge space battle would have been a tad risky regardless?
Think of all the ports R2 connects to as USB ports, he has that sort of plug because that is the most common one same for why the bad guy ships have them.
+Jayden Holzhauser Either that or the plugs aren't all the same, but R2's tool can shift configuration to interface with them, like an electronic lockpick.
I think he was once the same species as the pirate Hando, if you see the drawings of how he was as a humanoid there are some similarities, don't think I'm specieist though haha
@@Whispangle ... not unlike Grievous, actually... Whose working eyes and brain we can CLEARLY SEE THROUGHOUT THE FILM. Like, what did you think Grievous's gutsack was for, CinemaSins?
@@EmCeeDrue I agree with your point, but...we don't see Grievous' brain in the movie. We see his heart and lungs, but the brain is (presumably) still in his head.
The opera scene between Sidious and Anakin was actually really interesting. It's the most backstory that we ever get of the evilest character in the movies, and it's still vague in such a way that makes it creepy. In the entire original trilogy, we don't learn much about the history of the Sith, not do we in this trilogy much either, but this gives us a peak into things.
***** Palpatine = normal? What planet are you living on? Tatooine? He's a Sith, dude. And by telling me I'm an idiot, you meant that I have to like the prequels? Nope, I don't like 'em, but I don't hate 'em. I don't even give a fuck. I watch 'em simply for Maul ( Ray Park ), Count Dooku ( Christopher Lee, Goodness rests him ), and General Grievious ( MATTHEW WOOD ). That's it. Oh, also I watch 'em for the backstory and the lore. And the action? I just saved 'em for the Dark Knight and Captain America: Winter Soldier, thank you very much.
***** I didn't say it was a perfect scene, what I said was that it gave an interesting insight into a character and side of the lore that we didn't get much during the other films. And why do you think Palpatine is a regular guy? While he could have been more subtle, Palpatine is not directly saying to go to the Dark Side, he's just giving a benefit. He's also framing it like it's a legend he heard. Everything has faults, but people are too quick to blanketly say that every aspect of a mediocre thing is bad. There are good elements to the Prequels, some of them on par with the best moments of the originals, they are just outnumbered by a lot of disappointment.
+Mordalon Eh, I will give the scene props for expanding Star Wars lore in regards to the Sith, and it is comparatively better than virtually every scene in the prequels, but it still isn't that good. You saying "it wasn't perfect" and "it gave an interesting insight" implies you find that scene more good than bad. That scene is probably still 70-75% bad. It isn't in the slightest bit vague, with Palpatine smiling like a goofball while telling the story. It also just shows how cartoonishly stupid Anakin is. I mean, why would the Chancellor know a Sith story that apparently no one else has heard? Why would a Chancellor who is suspected by the council of possible treachery bring up a "benefit" of the dark side out of nowhere? And why is it EXACTLY what will help Anakin's current issue that no one is supposed to know about? These are things that would raise red flags for anyone that is in the least bit intelligent, of which Anakin is apparently not. Sure it isn't completely conclusive, there are convoluted and unlikely explanations one could probably create, but it is MORE then enough to report to the council, "I think Palpatine is probably a Sith Lord trying to manipulate me, at the very least he has knowledge of the Sith that isn't well-known." Then just attempt to bring him in for questioning. If he resists, too bad, since Anakin isn't going to massacre the Jedi in the next 10 minutes, they have more than enough manpower.
That is the point. Anakin interrupts her giving birth as dying. And, in doing so "attempts" to save her, ironically which kills her. The point is fear ruled Anakin.
There is actually a reason behind it. The swordplay of the jedi is heavily modeled after a specific real world martial art (that I forgot the name of). It prioritizes disarment, very litterally. It's meant to be able to incapacitate without killing, just as peacekeepers like the jedi would want to do
the way i understood grievous he's not really a robot, he just wears their armor to look cool; he's a living being. anyway, he's also a 4 lightsaber badass.
He's wearig the armor to survive, actually, the only things on him that are from his non-cyborg self are his eyes, his heart, brain, Lungs and some other intestens
+Ian Murren Is it explained in the movies? Cinemasins doesn't count things as explained if they aren't mentioned in the movies, since the movies themselves ought to have that sort of information about the characters they're showing.
Escape pods something: general grievous just launched them. This guys didn’t watch the movie, he skipped scenes and randomly chose the stupidest reason that it was bad.
Honestly, I've realized that he literally burns every Gen Z movie whether he likes it or not, so we probably shouldn't take him too seriously. Plus, he's funny as hell
It was a very misinterpreted force dream in one of the Vader comics. It shows plageus making anakin in shmis womb. It gets taken out of context very often
Sin: The Jedi are literally contributing to Anakin's turn to the dark side by asking him to lie to Palpatine and spy on him. In other movies Yoda has mentioned that lies and deceit are weapons of the dark side
Part of me wants to think that’s intentional to show that the Jedi have their own manipulative tactics that aren’t as blatant or used as often as the Sith. The other part knows we’re dealing with George Lucas
I’ve always wondered about that rescue mission myself - there were many situations where Palpatine could’ve died or been gravely hurt, just because he didn’t want to reveal himself to anyone. I get he can probably control a lot without even Jedi masters sensing it, but what if the ship crashes too hard or explodes or the swing from the elevator shaft misses - at some point he would’ve had to openly use his powers to survive.
dont get me wrong i love cinemasins but recently it seems like hes just throwing a good 20 sins in that are explained in the movie but he cuts those parts out.
Cinemasins has really went downhill. They used to actually point out actual sins and plot holes that were actually funny. Now they just say shit like "obi wan walked through the door funny" *ding* or something stupid like that.
+Stud03Muffin Thats true, but its just because the show grew and transitioned. It used to be about finding actual 'movie sins' with some joking thrown in. Now the channel is more about the comedic aspect, with the movie sin portion being a secondary part. I guess he has to view so many movies so frequently due to the channels popularity, and its hard to find actual sins without spending lots of time watching and rewatching
General Grievous is not a robot! The reason he coughs so much is because he is sorta like Darth Vader, he is a cyborg. He was once an alien warrior and was put in cyborg body. You would have noticed this when they showed he clearly has organic body parts within the suit (eyes, heart, and other organs) and they also state this in the film. I wouldn't have corrected you about it if you didn't constantly bring it up during your review!
Marshall Rojas ...do we love them? I feel more like we’ve just accepted them than anything. After TROS I’ve gone back and rewatched every Star Wars movie (starting at A new hope then finishing with the prequels) and ROTS was the only one of the prequels that I wasn’t frustrated out my ass by. They really are not good films. They’re certainly a lot of fun at times, Ewan McGregor is fantastic (especially in ROTS) and it’s neat to see the really intense lightsaber fights ect., (and Jesus Christ the fucking music is legitimately some of the finest in cinema history) but they’re inconsistent with the original trilogy, Anakin is literally an insufferable goth teenager, DEAR GOD Jar Jar in the phantom menace is actually unbearable- I could go on. I grew up on the prequels and they were my first introduction to Star Wars (I even remember liking Jar Jar as a kid) , so i guess I do love them in a way, but I will in no way say they’re decent films by any means. The sequel trilogy blows the prequels out of the water purely on entertainment value in my opinion. Frustrating, of course, but for the lost potential more than anything. The prequels are enjoyable in a kind of goofy comic book way, and are charming in their own deluded un-selfaware way. Jesus are they not good though.
@@luisma2548 It was a pretty large battle (Over 1000 capital ships) at that scale you give up all tactics and just throw your forces at the enemy it is kinda like in WW1 where there were so many forces it would have been impossible to coordinate a strategy so they just threw their men at the enemy.
@@luisma2548 the battle of courscant was a clusterfuck of a battle in Lore as well. This was because the Republic ships werent all one cohesive fleet but instead where many separate fleets that had jumped into the system after the CIS attacked the planet to reinforce the courscant home fleet, who was getting torn to shreds.
My algorithm threw this up again in my watch list, and once again I am reminded of my major objection to the prequel trilogy; HOW DOES AMIDALA SLEEP IN NIGHTIES WITH THAT MUCH HARDWARE ON THEM????? She must wake up covered in pressure dimples shaped like jewelry.
For #37 did you like black out when Grievous (the "robot") escaped in an escape pod and Anakin said "All the escape pods have been launched."? Come on.
The thing that gets me about Ani's dream is that she isn't specifically dying. She is screaming and crying.... I know Jedi sex ed is underfunded but does he not know that screaming and crying is a normal birth activity?
0:49 Fun fact, in the clone wars series there were a set of separatist droids they snuck into republic buildings disguised as transport droids. Then the detonated inside, killing many.
He wasn't just ANY cyborg fukin moron - he tha kaleesh warrior, body fashioned into a cybernetic weapon!! Notorious for his lightning quick strikes and devastating blows now GET FUKED + he took light sabers from jedi he murked cause they made FINE additions to his COLLECTION!!
aaron schmuker Wow! Dont take it so serious dude. Its all in good fun. Besides, wasnt one caped, cybernetic, light-saber using bad guy with a breathing problem good enuff? Only Lucas can out-vader Vader, before he is even made yet LOL
You guys are aware this is essentially a satire channel right? Far too many people taking his "sins" seriously and it's just as funny as the video itself
How can anyone not enjoy the opening to this movie? The battle is fantastic, way ahead of it's time with the CGI. The epic fight with Duku. It's got it all.
How in tf did you not realize he’s a cyborg when you see his eyes while fighting Obi wan. You get a sin for not realizing droids don’t have organic eyes.
The Aussie Nerd I mean for a solo film yes but this is literally the 3rd film of 3. That’s like reading only the ending of a book and wondering why it doesn’t make sense.
Though, to be fair, any Astromech Droid can do the things R2 does. R2, and all the color swap versions of him, are merely the latest series of Astromech Droids. What most people *don't* know, however, is that most droids are meant to be memory wiped periodically, so that their personalities don't get too independent. R2 has never been memory wiped.
Shawnee Longbow R2 has actually been memory wiped at least twice in the franchise. However both times they didn't go far enough with the wipe. The first time he was memory wiped was when he was kidnapped by Cad Bane's crew to gain access to the information he had on the Republics battle strategies at the time. Bane simply had R2's memory of the encounter wiped. The second time was at the end of ROTS when he and 3PO had their memories of Anakin and the others wiped. Their personalities were kept however.
All correct, except R2's memory was not wiped in ROTS. Senator Organa orders 3PO's memory wiped, mostly because he talks too much and they didn't want him spilling things. R2 however remembers everything.
Okay so. Episode 1: Obi faced and killed Maul. Yoda says there are always 2 Sith. Episode 2: Dooku beats both of them. Episode 3: "Sith lord is our specialty" while facing Dooku, indicating there was no other sith lord. Beside him and Sidious. If you just take the movies themselves, then this does not make sense at all. And you are left to wonder what other Sith lords did they fight.
When you realize the entire plot of this movie could've been completely different if Mace Windu said 3 words instead of attempting to arrest Palpatine: Initiate order 65
Execute Order 666: Palps gets turned into a Halloween pumpkin by Windu/the force, and Mace carves him up all nicely for the rest of the film, and places it on a stake right before the credits roll ;]
@@spicysnowman8886 Objectively??? This movie is terrible! Script? Crap. Cinematography? Crap. Motivations? Crap. Just because you grew up with it doesn't make it good.
What about showing Palpatine saying "Amidala our recently *elected* queen" in the Phantom sins movie and then continue to rant in 3 separate videos about not understanding how she went from queen to senator and not understanding Naboo's politics. They show it in their own video damn it :p
Everything wrong with: everything wrong with rots 1: true 2: what is wrong with that? 3: unnecessary sin. 4: the crawls are necessary to know what is going on. -also, the 2008 tv show explains how, no. We did not leave off on geonosis, and there is a logical explanation to how we got to here. 5: Jedi ships are interceptors, they are meant to intercept, not engage directly. They are stealth ships. 6: they are surviving so they can get to the invisible hand to rescue the canceller. Have you even watched the movie? 7: there are plans. The repulic is supposed to escort the Jedi into the enemy ship, whilst the CIS know about the Jedi, and are distracting the clones so that grievous can take just the Jedi. 8: technically flying is for droids, considering how many ships have droid pilots and/ or droid co-pilots, who can normally fly the ship on their own. 9:That would be a cluster bomb that would just have a large explosion. 10: he is telling obi wan because his cockpit is fogged and he can’t see. 11: it’s a running joke, whilst at the same time expressing how Jedi can feel the future, he “feels” that it is a trap. Which, eventually, it is. 12: the droid battles are necessary as it wouldn’t make sense for the general to know the Jedi are coming, and not put security on the hangar bays. 13: they have to be “r2 compatible” as the cis also uses Astromech droids And droids that feature similar slicing mechanisms. 14: he’s a cyborg that has his lungs damaged in a fight with windu. 15: the droidekas were sent from an area that required a front end approach. 16: the general wants to capture/torture the Jedi for information. 17: same point as 16. 18: that was intentional. 19:obi wan had a taste of sarcasm to it, which was meant to show the viewer how calm Jedi are in tense situations. 20: you sinned the same thing twice, and, obi was the first to defeat a sith in thousands of years. 21: I don’t get the joke, but it probably wasn’t worth a sin. 22: Anikan is cocky and arrogant, this type of statement is normal. 23: they distracted obi wan whilst ani and dooku were dueling. 24: the noise was an exclamation, at how ani was beating dooku, and palpatine was eyeing up ani as his new apprentice. 25: it doesn’t. He’s unconscious. 26: this is the start of ani’s true fall to the dark side, executing an unarmed prisoner. 27: unnecessary sin. 28: he was making anikan feel guilty. 29: wilhelm screams are aren’t worth sinning. 30: they are taking out the cannons and artillery on the ship. 31: the Jedi can use the force to negate the g-force that would have potentially made one of them pass out right there. 32:he had to wait for the timing where they were inside the area of the ray shield. 33: what does that have to do with anything right now? 34: he was a warlord that was cast for the job by dooku, and had his alien parts replaced by robot ones. 35: you mean, expensive as hell IG-100 manga guards. 36:didn’t you hear them say grievous launches all the escape pods? 37: that doesn’t even add up to 69. 38: the ships were called in by kenobi. 39: 10 miles? If that is larger than the ship it’s larger than 10 miles. 40:you mean cancular right, also, ever hear of F O R C E A B I L I T I E S 41: would you have liked it better if it just cut to them no longer on the ship? 42:we get to see it if we watch the clone wars. 43: there is no one around, so what? 44: well he was missing for a long-ish time and then the front end of the ship that he was supposed to be on crashed in front of her soooo. 45: you win. You get a point. I can’t think of a reason this is wrong. 46: most of their senses are clouded by the dark side. 47: that is unrelated to this Kabufle of ani-Palme relationship. 48: that was the worst moment of his life as it marked the beginning of his fall to the dark side, 49: ha ha very funny. 50: *exhausted and angry heavy breathing* you win again. 51: I have become the very thing I have sworn to destroy, I agree. 52: he is feeling into the future. 53: it’s not that much, turn your brightness down. 54: you think somebody in a Speeder is just gonna fly past and say “hey is that Anikan and Palme sleeping together?” 55: what 56: if you are so interested there is probably a comic that explains that. 57: the dark side clouds their vision, except Anikan because palps is making him have visions. 58: everything except fear, anger, hate, pain, guilt, 59: it’s not Jedi 101, more like, Jedi 102, his arrogance 60: they lost a battle on salucami, master vos has moved his troops to boss pity.
@@Max-du9uo I think you may be taking these sins (and the idea as a whole) too seriously. While it is rather accurate to call it bad/lazy writing, I think that's part of the charm, and UA-cam isn't exactly the go-to place for meaningful criticisms.
SubExoticShadow He was using an ability called force mask once you turn to the dark you become deformed over time because of the power and when it shit back at him it deteriated away
3:06 Grievous launched all escape pods. By the time that the four got to the pods, they would all be out of range. A Force-user has to know where something is in order for them to be able to use the Force on it. Then, by the time that the trio got to the cockpit of the ship, the ship would have crashed and killed all three and Artoo.
+Ging3rman117 I Liked Them To, Don't Worry. But Simon Pegg Now Hates You Because Anyone Who Likes The Prequels Are Hated By Him! +Mike L What? What Does Kappa Mean? Why'd You Call Him An Idiot He Can Have Opinions Like Me.
the movie never elaborated on this, you'd have to look up extra info to know that off the bat, same thing with just about all the lore "established" in the prequels
+Kenny Yaska LMFAO no man, what are you saying? We need to be _explicitly_ told that a robot with human-like internal organs is not actually a fully fledged fucking robot! :')
This movie was the least worse of all the prequels. It actually was pretty good. I admit Phantom was horrible, Attack was bad, but Revenge was actually decent. I think Star Wars just has fans that will never be satisfied. I'm bracing for a ton of hate here but the original trilogy had flaws okay? For instance you mean to tell me these guys built a gigantic killing planet and they totally didn't think about the fact that you could blow the damn thing up with one bomb through an exhaust port???? Not just that but they said hell the first one didn't work so let's build another gigantic fucking Death Star and make that one just as easy to destroy. It has flaws like every other movie because it's just that a movie. A great movie and a classic but it's a movie. Are the prequels as good as the originals? Never and they never will be but they aren't the worst movies ever made.
+Malcolm Reynolds Side note, the exhaust port would logically be pushing air/stuff out, so it wasn't unreasonable of them to assume a bomb would go directly against physics and just ignore the airflow and whatnot. The Death Star was destroyed by a magical space wizard... I'll admit the exhaust port could maybe have used a twist or a turn, just to avoid that sort of thing. The second Death Star is just stupid.
+Malcolm Reynolds Totally agreed. If you go on IMDB and look at the reviews for ep VII, loads of original trilogy elitists are giving it 1/10. I though it was actually really good, but I guess some people just have cognitive bias: nothing will ever be as good as the original trilogy -- because the fans won't allow it. Shame really; they were flawed movies, just like all other movies, and if ep VII was released a few years after VI, I bet they would love it...
I’m not trying to be an asshole but general greivous coughs because 1. He’s a cyborg so he has a living respiratory system 2. Mace windu crushed his robot parts into his respiratory system
AIONBERSERKER not really since the damage was covered in the original clone wars cartoon he first appeared in. I think the fact that he is coughing should be clue enough that he is obviously weakened from something.
Darthwin Wright clone wars cartoon =/= the film we are watching. If a film relies on outside material to make sense, it is badly written. The fact that he is coughing just seems stupid without any context.
AIONBERSERKER They are part of the same universe so a film series that is part of a massive universe should not have to spoon feed information to the viewing audience. This isn't some stand alone film is a piece to a large universe. Should be pretty obvious that a organic machine hybrid couching is a sign that he has been damaged.
darthwin Wright - I don't think you understand the point of film-making. I'll explain it slowly: take the LOTR for example. Those three films were so successful in their adaptation that I do not need to read the books to make sense of the story. The Godfather is the same - I don't need to read the books to get a complete story, the screenwriters made sure that I get a complete experience. The same goes for the silence of the lambs or Harry Potter, or the Shawshank Redemption. As a movie-maker you have to make sure your viewers get a complete story with their admission ticket. The prequels are such a mess that it takes the EU to fix it - that is bad storytelling, especially now that the EU is not cannon according to Lucasarts. When the average movie-goer steps into the cinema and sees a coughing robot with a cape who we know nothing about (and who has the ridiculous name of General Grievous - one step better than Captain I'm-a-bad-guy) things start to get silly.
Don't you trash Obi-Wan! Most underrated character in any movie ever. Taking out Darth Maul as a Padawan is impressive. He also took out Vader. My biggest problem with this movie is that Obi-Wan and Yoda should have gone after Palpatine after Obi-Wan took out Vader.
Well Obi-Wan had to get Padme to the hospital he knew she had babies and needed to get to Polis Massa. Yoda on the other hand admitted his defeat to Sideous. And they hid in Dagobah same reason why Luke was hiding in Episode 7 cause they were the only strongest Jedi left
Had Obi Wan gone after Sidious with him he would have only got in the way. Yoda is the pinnacle of the light side and Sidious the nexus of the dark side. That's why they could only fight to a draw. Plus Yoda was hoping that either Obi Wan could bring him back or finish him off, sadly he dis neither.
When Darth Maul killed Qui Gon Jinn, that amped Obi-Wan into a Force Rage, he was still no match for Darth Maul even though he was amped by a Force Rage, you can tell in this last moment between these 2 in The Phantom Menace that Darth Maul is stronger, the best Obi-Wan could do with his Force Rage was kick Darth Maul and snap his Light Saber, but Darth Maul countered many of Obi-Wan's Swings and even kicked him in the face and Force pushed him down the hole. The novelisation of The Phantom Menace also states that a Force Raged Obi-Wan was no match for Darth Maul. ''The battle wore on, and for a time it was fought evenly. But Darth Maul was the stronger of the two and was driven by a frenzy that surpassed even the frantic determination that fueled Obi-Wan. Eventually, the Sith Lord began to wear the young Jedi down. Bit by bit, he pressed him back, carrying the attack to him, looking to catch him off guard. Obi-Wan could sense his body weakening, and his fear of what it would mean if he, too, were to fall, began to grow.'' - Taken from The Phantom Menace Novelisation. And when Obi-Wan was Force pushed down a hole, Darth Maul had the chance to chance to quickly finish off Obi-Wan but he wasted time taunting him because he believed he already won, he wanted to finish Obi-Wan off slowly to ''savour his victory'' , if Obi Wan stayed in the hole slightly longer, Darth Maul would've finished him off by Force pushing him down the hole. Darth Maul only lost that duel because he was being cocky. But if you argue that Obi-Wan is a young Padawan and not a Jedi Knight or a Master, that can easily be debunked because Obi-Wan was ready to become a Jedi Knight and Darth Maul was the rank of a Sith Assassin during The Phantom Menace, basically a guard dog for the Sith, his Sith training was far from complete. And on top of all that, Darth Maul was 22 years old and Obi-Wan was 25 years old and ready to become a Jedi Knight.
+TheGiantPoopsicle To be honest, when I watch the prequels, I only like the Obi-Wan's part. I've always skipped Padme and Anakin's part in episode 2 since I really wanna see Obi-Wan in action.
+TheGiantPoopsicle being able to take on a sith lord as a padawan takes a lot of skill, he was able to defeat Maul when Qui Gon couldn't & even cut Maul in half
You yourself sinned when you said Grievous was a robot.
*You‘ve become the very thing you swore to destroy.*
*I used the stones to destroy the stones*
This guy is a moron. He only made this for clicks. He cant say a single actual criticism about the movie
@@AlbertRazzer These aren't actual Critics tho, it's supposed to be comedic and hypocritical,
From Everything Wrong with CinemaSins: "We're not critics, we're ASSHOLES"
@@VanillaMidgetSSBM it might be ironic but i am unable to locate the funny
Like hes just straight up saying a bunch of bs. Its like he hasnt watched the movie. For example he mentioned that when they were landing grievous ship he said "why didnt they use any escape pods" WHEN HE LITTERALY SHOWS GRIEVOUS DEPLOYING ALL OF THEM SO THEY COULDNT ESCAPE.
"Sith Lords are our specialty"
Obi Wan said in a room full of current/future Sith Lords
😂😂
lol never thought of that
but he did help take out 3
Tale as old as time....
Yeah but Anakin wasn't a Sith lord then
@@Jodacro-it4zz “future”
CinemaSins: Calls Grievous a robot
The fans: Army or not, you must realize... you are doomed
PS4 Gaming I’ve literally been saying this ever since Disney bought star wars
PS4 Gaming I might stick around to see what going to happen
I AM NOT A FUCKING ROBOT GODDAMMIT
Literally lost me right when he said that
PS4 Gaming how can u do this
12:10 “this arrest seems totally rushed” *Mace literally two minutes earlier* “we must move quickly if our order is to survive this”
That doesn't mean it was the right decision
@@connornewcombe4319 that’s the point! Mace Windu is ignorant and that leads to the downfall of the Jedi order
@@connornewcombe4319 yeah it’s the revenge of the sith why would the Jedi win
@@Frozo-nt2ky Yea he definitely does... by winning? How tf was he supposed to know Anakin had family issues? I mean his side of the plan went perfectly.
@@samisha5834 wait I’m confused
In the crash landing scene, they couldn't have used an escape pod because Grievous had deployed all of them...
Eeli Lappalainen it's like he didn't watch the movie
This cinemasins guy is a fucking moron
@@sdsd2e2321 it's almost like these videos are made for cheap jokes and not intended as serious criticism
Thank you, that triggered me so much
@@oliverhughes610 yeah but theres a lot of things like this where you should easily know just from watching the movie
Grievous isn't a robot.
+777 MangaKing 777 would you know this only watching the movie? i agree, but jeremy goes by the movie and not the source material or, in this case, expanded universe, of the the movie/franchise
+Josiah Matthews there are differences between Grievous and other droids, for example the obviously fleshy stuff under the armor.
+Josiah Matthews You can clearly see flesh in his eye sockets for his mask, not to mention his organs later on. I don't think it takes a genius to figure out Grievous is not a full-on robot.
+Josiah Matthews The coughing was a dead giveaway that he isn't a robot.
Shadow of Solitude the coughing was one of the sins
What's funny is the prophecy is not misread,but misinterpreted. The Jedi out of arrogance assumed that the prophecy meant their side of the force wins.When in reality it was BALANCE to the force not winning. At the end of III we see balance two Jedi and two Sith. Anakin did bring balance to the force and at the end of VI the balance was destroyed. I always find it funny that people did not see that.
+Emperor Nero Just proves how stupid the prequel Jedi are. There are thousands of Jedi and only two Sith; ergo thousands of Jedi have to die in order to balance the Force. a child could see that.
*****
What went down in the EU is the Temple was built on a Sith artifact. It clouded their minds weakening them.
*****
So Lucas fucked up his own prophecy. Makes sense.
+Emperor Nero I have an idea. How about we don't bring EU in this. You know since EU is bloody stupid and stuff.
Dimitrios Corvinos
The EU is actually great.
I feel like no one realizes grievous wasn’t a robot yes he has cybernetics but he can still cough there is still an organic life form under that metal😂
@the scarecrow how is he a nerd you can literally se his heart and stuff when obi wan kills him
So a cyborg
@@stepbrojeff7919 And the eyes
He was a cyborg
Anyone who thinks he’s a robot is not a true fan and should not be doing this video
people act like grievous came out of nowhere in this movie but there was a clone wars show made before this in 2003 that had grievous in it.
You shouldn’t have to watch other media to understand a movie.
@@pokespartytv8086 While that is pretty true, this is the third movie (okay, sixth) in a pretty massive franchise and is set towards the events of a massive war. By this point in the timeline, you kind of need that extra media to have a full grasp of the situation. It would be a bigger sin to have all the characters act like everything is new information to them, given they're all Generals at this point.
Also a few of the sins, like Palpatine risking himself in the crashing ship, kind of show how nit-picking this list was. "Behind-the-scenes control?" of course it was, the entire franchise is pretty much based on Palpatine behind-the-scenes'ing everything.
@@pokespartytv8086 In a universe as big as star wars, yes you should.
@@jaxmtl67 Lucas didn't need two animated shows, five books, and three comics to destroy the Death Star, and introduce Luke to his father, why should he need all that the second time around?
@@cyqry It doesn't matter how big the conflict is or the fact that its star wars. The movies should be able to stand on their own in giving a cohesive story. If you need to watch a cartoon series to understand a character and actually get some cool stuff out of them, then that's a failure on the movie's part. I watched the 2d animated clone wars series before seeing rots so I was well aware of who grievous was and even why he had such a bad cough and couldnt fight well. But for a fan or casual viewer who only watches the movies, grievous feels really out of place, poorly defined, and ultimately a character who's only purpose is to give obiwan someone to fight in the middle of the movie. Pretty jarring, if you ask me. Return of the jedi was also the third movie in a trilogy that served as the conclusion to a massive war and it sure as shit didn't need a cartoon to explain anything.
When anakin lost his car keys was when he got turned to the dark side because fear of loss is path to the dark side.
Hilarious!
kevin niang lol
Since when did Anakin have a Car? lol
Nah... after aotc when obiwan kept getting into him about losing his lightsaber he developed a phobia and that’s when it happened
You should have taken off a sin for the “DEWIT” scene
gotta love a Game Grumps fan, go team!
So there should be -1 sins?
*DEW IT*
Funny enough, ordinary human beings don’t judge films by memes.
The ability to speak makes you intelligent
12:02 Seriously? This was such a good scene. The music and lack of dialogue forced deep thought about the seriousness of the situation and what Anakin must be thinking.
Yeah you could say that about any scene in any movie
you have named the sins...
but have you heard the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise?
He was the master of the senate...
TheSterMan01 he WAS the senate
He is R2!!!
Dalila A he is jarjar
drillz007 i had it copied
They should make a "Everything Wrong with Everything Wrong in Revenge of the Sith".
UA-cam "Th3Birdman"
Sky Says Hi ahh another man of culture
@@crazypineapple4779 Did future birdman send you?!
Sky Says Hi yes
Jeremy did a great job. If you arent hypnotized by light sabers and dark movies, you'd realize this movie is dog shit.
you all will be pleased to know that there are no severed limbs in The Force Awakens
+Gatlyn Anderson - Yes, there is, but okay.
+Gatlyn Anderson No severed limbs, only severed feelings
S&S Pictures when did that happen? I don't remember anything prominent
+S&S Pictures Not by my count.
Lots of fools get the _shit_ cut out of them with lightsabers, but no actual dismemberment that I saw.
+Gatlyn Anderson Spoilers.
3:07 this sin is unnecessary
A few scenes before it was said that all escape pods were activated when grievous abandoned the ship
So this is their OLNY way of survival since they lost the hangar bay and there are no escape pods left
Pretty much everything he said is straight bs, he seems to not know anything about this movie or Star Wars at all for that matter
Bruh I literally thought that exact thing and I was like ummmmm my guy have you even watched the movies
It’s a joke
@@wolfbreaker4401 Jokes are supposed to be funny
Prequel fanboys this is a satire accounts also if you are a regular watcher you don't need know every fucking plot Hole filler nerd.
"Everything wrong with Revenge of the Sith"
Prequel fans: "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"
True dat
parrots talk, and we eat them. right?
@@iforgetiremember5243 No, almost no one eats Parrots
@@Yougotcaged102 phillip j fry said it
@@iforgetiremember5243 Who the heck is that
He acts like this movie takes place right after AotC
𝑗 𝑜 𝑛 ت he also doesn’t seem to know that the clone wars had an entire show that makes a lot more of this movie make sense.
Hes just an Ignorant fcking idiot who hates everything
Phantom Sky that’s the point of the channel
Yelbert you can be funny without sounding like an idiot watch th3birdman
Gage R he’s just joking around and honestly who really gived a fuck about what he says after this video
“Anakin here is a newbie.”
Clone Wars Anakin: *laughing uncontrollably*
that's what i was thinking, he is basically a general at this point
@@gunjantripathi3340 he IS a general at this point and he's been one for a while
@@gunjantripathi3340 he litterally is. He's General Skywalker in the clone wars. Just like obi Wan is
"General Kenobi"
@@chrisbaker9704 I know... I know. I wrote 'basically' cause not everyone has watched clone wars and his rank is not very much clear in revenge of the sith so I didn't want anyone to point that out.
@@gunjantripathi3340 fair point.
12:03 he did not just sin one of the best scenes in the movie
deadass, excellent wordless acting from hayden, and the lighting is beautiful
Faxx, that whole scene is the physical proof that less is better
This was legitimately my favourite star wars movie
my favourite is the fourth episode
+benjamin jones lol
+Itz Zaya It was mine as well, until i saw Force Awakens yesterday :D
+The Sparkie I'm jelaous
+Itz Zaya Hey, for the record....this was considered to be the best out of all three Star Wars prequel movies.
"Anakin... Something wonderful has happened. ...I'm pregnant!"
"That's... that's wonderf-- Wait a second, I've been deployed to the Outer Rim Sieges for the last three years!"
+TheOtherGuys2 LOLLLLLL
metachlorins
+TheOtherGuys2 I'm surprised CinemaSins didn't notice that!
WELL THEN.
+Jesse Clark well Luke is blond
He doesn’t seem to understand that this movie takes place 3 years after Attack Of The Clones..
He has the iq of a slug
HalalBoi9021 I don’t remember anyone asking what his IQ was. Also, that’s literally the whole point of this channel. Watch “everything wrong with cinemasins”
@@safijivvaboi5081 he atleast should pick actual flaws
does it matter? it's still a sin for bad storytelling. Most viewers just watch the films with no extra info, so it's weird when a trilogy doesn't tie into the last film at all. What was the point of the big showdown then if it was apparently turned around again off screen.
He’s viewing it from a non Star Wars fanatic point of view they skipped an entire war that’s confusing as fuck for anyone new to the series.
I am very aggravated that you didn’t remove 20 sins for “hello there”
General Kenobi
But added 50 for no reason
Number 37: Grievous launched all the escape pods so they couldn't do that
A ship that size doesn't have any smaller ships aboard? It's basically an aircraft carrier!
The ships are droids. They don't hold anything. Also when it went into free fall, their starfighters were damaged
*****
Then how did they get Palpatine up there in the first place? He presumably wasn't brought up by droid or escape pod.
Daniel S it was a shuttle that palpatine to the invisible hand
GLaDOS Grievous
Kind of the point. Now, I know that the Jedi are complete idiots who cannot think for themselves and need the Force to smack them on the head about *everything*, but they specifically went on a rescue mission to recover the Supreme Chancellor - in two tiny one-man fighters! How were they planning to get him off of the Invisible Hand? Surely sticking him in an escape pod and firing it off in the middle of a huge space battle would have been a tad risky regardless?
Think of all the ports R2 connects to as USB ports, he has that sort of plug because that is the most common one same for why the bad guy ships have them.
Tell someone had to say it at least. Also, Grievous is a cyborg
+Carstea Florentin (rasengan) You know how mad Grievous is when someone called him Cyborg XD
+Jayden Holzhauser Either that or the plugs aren't all the same, but R2's tool can shift configuration to interface with them, like an electronic lockpick.
+Jayden Holzhauser That's the way I've always figured it!
Exactly.
I thought it was obvious that Grievious was a cyborg. Because he was coughing... Robots don't cough.
And he has a beating heart.
+Slam Jam cinemasins failed at that one
+KenXPanthers23 And soft eyeballs.
I think he was once the same species as the pirate Hando, if you see the drawings of how he was as a humanoid there are some similarities, don't think I'm specieist though haha
+Slam Jam and the whole planet of things that look exactly like him.
I thought it was a sin that we didn’t get to see more of General Grievous from the movie. Dude was awesome in the animated series.
Cinemasins: what we needed a coughing robot
Every grievous fan: CYBORG
Any person who has working eyes and brain*
@@Whispangle ... not unlike Grievous, actually... Whose working eyes and brain we can CLEARLY SEE THROUGHOUT THE FILM. Like, what did you think Grievous's gutsack was for, CinemaSins?
@@EmCeeDrue I agree with your point, but...we don't see Grievous' brain in the movie. We see his heart and lungs, but the brain is (presumably) still in his head.
@@dargaronsoftsong3193 unless he doesn't have a brain.
Everyone that watched the movie, you don't even need to be a fan to know he's not a robot
Did anyone ever think that things aren't R2 Compatible, but R2 is everything compatible?
wow. never thought of it like that. he probably has something in him for everything
Gavin Hebert
He even has a USB port. And those don't even exist in Star Wars!
+MURFGAMING1228 They're gonna sin it for R2 being convenient anyway then lol
Galen Marek
It all comes around doesn't it?
MURFGAMING1228 Cuz they're Cinemasins ;)
Him: sins the tale of Darth plageius the wise
Me: it's treason then
Him: Makes this video.
Me: Time for a fucking crusade!
Ryan Juneau I agree
@@lovejesus1800 Can you teach me to use the force?
Topi Kumpulainen No
@@lovejesus1800 Why?
*sees the title of this video*
Me: ‘oh I don’t think so’
"Get..."
Get.
Kills me every time.
Spencer Jones haha he said the same word someone else said .....
Kills Dooku too, lol
I guess you say that it....
“Get”s you every time. I’m sorry.
Spencer Jones those droids in the lift had the high ground. But they didn't have plot armor
same
The opera scene between Sidious and Anakin was actually really interesting. It's the most backstory that we ever get of the evilest character in the movies, and it's still vague in such a way that makes it creepy. In the entire original trilogy, we don't learn much about the history of the Sith, not do we in this trilogy much either, but this gives us a peak into things.
+xellossaxon
One persons opinion.
*****
I just said why I found it interesting. You can disagree, but I at least give reasons for my opinion.
***** Palpatine = normal? What planet are you living on? Tatooine? He's a Sith, dude. And by telling me I'm an idiot, you meant that I have to like the prequels? Nope, I don't like 'em, but I don't hate 'em. I don't even give a fuck. I watch 'em simply for Maul ( Ray Park ), Count Dooku ( Christopher Lee, Goodness rests him ), and General Grievious ( MATTHEW WOOD ). That's it. Oh, also I watch 'em for the backstory and the lore. And the action? I just saved 'em for the Dark Knight and Captain America: Winter Soldier, thank you very much.
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I didn't say it was a perfect scene, what I said was that it gave an interesting insight into a character and side of the lore that we didn't get much during the other films. And why do you think Palpatine is a regular guy? While he could have been more subtle, Palpatine is not directly saying to go to the Dark Side, he's just giving a benefit. He's also framing it like it's a legend he heard. Everything has faults, but people are too quick to blanketly say that every aspect of a mediocre thing is bad. There are good elements to the Prequels, some of them on par with the best moments of the originals, they are just outnumbered by a lot of disappointment.
+Mordalon Eh, I will give the scene props for expanding Star Wars lore in regards to the Sith, and it is comparatively better than virtually every scene in the prequels, but it still isn't that good. You saying "it wasn't perfect" and "it gave an interesting insight" implies you find that scene more good than bad. That scene is probably still 70-75% bad. It isn't in the slightest bit vague, with Palpatine smiling like a goofball while telling the story. It also just shows how cartoonishly stupid Anakin is.
I mean, why would the Chancellor know a Sith story that apparently no one else has heard? Why would a Chancellor who is suspected by the council of possible treachery bring up a "benefit" of the dark side out of nowhere? And why is it EXACTLY what will help Anakin's current issue that no one is supposed to know about? These are things that would raise red flags for anyone that is in the least bit intelligent, of which Anakin is apparently not.
Sure it isn't completely conclusive, there are convoluted and unlikely explanations one could probably create, but it is MORE then enough to report to the council, "I think Palpatine is probably a Sith Lord trying to manipulate me, at the very least he has knowledge of the Sith that isn't well-known." Then just attempt to bring him in for questioning. If he resists, too bad, since Anakin isn't going to massacre the Jedi in the next 10 minutes, they have more than enough manpower.
Anakin: "What kind of nonsense is this?"
VO: "George Lucas films his actors speaking in private."
Absolutely brilliant!
Lol
+GetOverHere83 6:32 The best part. XD
+Khorps baguette
spacecore6000
lagget
@Chanchiluv
"What isn't a path to the Dark Side? HUH?"
That's actually a legitimate sin...
Cheese.
Nobody ever went dark side when they had access to some gouda.
In the dream with Padme dying..... SHE'S NOT EVEN DYING!!!!!!!
That is the point. Anakin interrupts her giving birth as dying. And, in doing so "attempts" to save her, ironically which kills her. The point is fear ruled Anakin.
She dies in childbirth
Colby Mazur
In the dream she is just sreaming....And OF COUSRE she will scream during childbirth! It hurts! But she is not dying.
+Νικόλ Ασωνίτη Women do die in childbirth... are you unaware of that?
+blaze556922 It happens sometimes, but what they're saying is that the dream never implies that she's dying.
I've been trying to think of why George Lucas likes cutting off hands so much but im stumped.
Badum Tishh
Game How You Like lol
Game How You Like good joke! Hands down mate! Gotta hand it to you!
There is actually a reason behind it. The swordplay of the jedi is heavily modeled after a specific real world martial art (that I forgot the name of). It prioritizes disarment, very litterally. It's meant to be able to incapacitate without killing, just as peacekeepers like the jedi would want to do
I see what you did there😄 but I'm gonna go out on a limb (take your pick) and say George Lucas has an amputee/gore/dismemberment fetish.
the way i understood grievous he's not really a robot,
he just wears their armor to look cool; he's a living being.
anyway, he's also a 4 lightsaber badass.
+Kim muca not even a torso he has know body just organs
He's wearig the armor to survive, actually, the only things on him that are from his non-cyborg self are his eyes, his heart, brain, Lungs and some other intestens
+ryan phillips tRU
+Ian Murren Is it explained in the movies? Cinemasins doesn't count things as explained if they aren't mentioned in the movies, since the movies themselves ought to have that sort of information about the characters they're showing.
+Ladyluck229 When obi-wan is fighting him it shows he has flesh and eyes, later when obi-wan kills him it shows that he has internal organs....
And I’ll have you know that I am a Kaleesh that gave up my organic body for improvements in combat. I am no robot.
If it was done to improve you then why do you cough like that?
@@dindjarin1023 ask Mace
@@GeneralGrievous-tn2hi Where in the movies does it state all that?
@@andymiller7390 actually you have to watch The Clone Wars. Episode name “Lair of Grievous”
@@GeneralGrievous-tn2hi That doesn't answer the question.
Why would anyone sin 4 lightsabers ?!
Because it's corny and it sucks you dumb shit.
+Leo B So is your attitude but I guess there's always going to be that one bitch out there every once and a while.
+Leo B You mad.
+Leo B That's racist! *ding!*
because they aren't red
Escape pods something: general grievous just launched them. This guys didn’t watch the movie, he skipped scenes and randomly chose the stupidest reason that it was bad.
Some of these made sense though, even if it's just filler moments than the plot itself
Yea, that’s cinema sins for you
Honestly, I've realized that he literally burns every Gen Z movie whether he likes it or not, so we probably shouldn't take him too seriously. Plus, he's funny as hell
The video is meant to be joke isn't supposed to be taken seriously
General Grievous is a general because he is a cyborg after getting nearly killed on his home planet when he was a GENERAL
Hassan Syed It was stated in the Clone Wars idiot
Ah yes, because every single person who watched the film must have seen the animated TV show that comes before it
@Hassan Syed since when do movies explain the origin of the rank of side antagonists? why would that be necessary? lol
Slick 4 Life 43 well it is for fans
Hassan Syed Its a franchise yes if this was a standalone movie then you would need to explain that but it isnt
Did he just say that darth plageus is a Anakins dad?
A lot of people think he might be
Palpatine created anakin using a force technique taught to him by plageus however anakin does not have a dad
It was a very misinterpreted force dream in one of the Vader comics. It shows plageus making anakin in shmis womb. It gets taken out of context very often
Wait jar jar blinks is a Anikins faster?
I feel like this is the good prequel movie.
but still, is that really saying much?
Thomas Hall it's an overall good movie anyway
It wasn't a bad movie.
Mythix the Dragon better than The Force Recycled
Matthew Brant It's too bad George doesn't really want to do anymore star wars movies anymore.
Anakin: "What kind of nonsense is this?"
"George Lucus films his actors talking in private" hahahaha
Dude, your auto correct left out the rest of your sentence!
DOWN WITH GOOGLE!!!
AND DISNEY!!!
Blazer fuck you it's better then 4-8
Alexandru Goga Lol no.
Blazer lol yes
Blazer 2 sibling dont know there related and have feelings for 20 years
Sin: The Jedi are literally contributing to Anakin's turn to the dark side by asking him to lie to Palpatine and spy on him. In other movies Yoda has mentioned that lies and deceit are weapons of the dark side
And Windu just being a dick to him for no reason lol
Part of me wants to think that’s intentional to show that the Jedi have their own manipulative tactics that aren’t as blatant or used as often as the Sith. The other part knows we’re dealing with George Lucas
They also contribute by denying him being part of the council.
That’s not a sin, that’s just a major part of the story and how he turned
@@Khorne_of_the_Hill there is a reason
I’ve always wondered about that rescue mission myself - there were many situations where Palpatine could’ve died or been gravely hurt, just because he didn’t want to reveal himself to anyone.
I get he can probably control a lot without even Jedi masters sensing it, but what if the ship crashes too hard or explodes or the swing from the elevator shaft misses - at some point he would’ve had to openly use his powers to survive.
dont get me wrong i love cinemasins but recently it seems like hes just throwing a good 20 sins in that are explained in the movie but he cuts those parts out.
Yeah kinda makes him seem like an asshole and only adding as many sins for hate service I really don't think episode 3 deserved two parts
+Bruce Grayson yup, i used to like these but now they are just getting so picky it just comes across as being the most annoying bastard ever
Cinemasins has really went downhill. They used to actually point out actual sins and plot holes that were actually funny. Now they just say shit like "obi wan walked through the door funny" *ding* or something stupid like that.
I stopped watching them a whike ago because they werr funny. Now I come back now and then and turn them off after 2 minutes because they are so catty
+Stud03Muffin Thats true, but its just because the show grew and transitioned. It used to be about finding actual 'movie sins' with some joking thrown in. Now the channel is more about the comedic aspect, with the movie sin portion being a secondary part. I guess he has to view so many movies so frequently due to the channels popularity, and its hard to find actual sins without spending lots of time watching and rewatching
General Grievous is not a robot! The reason he coughs so much is because he is sorta like Darth Vader, he is a cyborg. He was once an alien warrior and was put in cyborg body. You would have noticed this when they showed he clearly has organic body parts within the suit (eyes, heart, and other organs) and they also state this in the film.
I wouldn't have corrected you about it if you didn't constantly bring it up during your review!
+TREY the Explainer It's You! =D
+TREY the Explainer THANK YOU!!!
It's like you expect them to pay attention to the movies they spend hours making videos for or something.
He coughs so much because when he was kidnapping the chancellor mace windu used the force to crush the metal around his guts
A sin for CinemaSins.
In Disney + when the Wookiee’s tarzan yell it actually says “Tarzan yell” in the subtitles.
I think it even says that on the DVD too tbh
"What ISN'T a path to the Dark Side?!"
Christianity in a nutshell.
I spent 10 minutes trying to come up with a Star Wars quote saying I agree but I got nothing
@@christiandouglass2225 nah
@DG int I'm pretty sure that doesn't matter to this wise statement.
Admitting your a sinner and accepting the Lord Jesus' sacrifice for you is the only way to the light side! God bless 🙏
“You, I agree with”
*sins things for not explaining things in previous movies*
Yet
*sins for not understanding naboo politics even though it was explained in Ep I and II*
FrostyWheats ikr if he watched the Clone Wars he would realise most of what he said is wrong
But Padme was elected ... to be queen
That one kid Yes that is how the naboo monarchy works
Kluggie no one should have to watch an entire tv series to understand a movie
This video hasn’t aged well now that everyone loves these movies lmaoo
True fans have always loved ROTS
It's over......
I have the *high ground...*
@@Telamonian Nope.
@@Telamonian Nope
Marshall Rojas ...do we love them? I feel more like we’ve just accepted them than anything. After TROS I’ve gone back and rewatched every Star Wars movie (starting at A new hope then finishing with the prequels) and ROTS was the only one of the prequels that I wasn’t frustrated out my ass by. They really are not good films. They’re certainly a lot of fun at times, Ewan McGregor is fantastic (especially in ROTS) and it’s neat to see the really intense lightsaber fights ect., (and Jesus Christ the fucking music is legitimately some of the finest in cinema history) but they’re inconsistent with the original trilogy, Anakin is literally an insufferable goth teenager, DEAR GOD Jar Jar in the phantom menace is actually unbearable- I could go on. I grew up on the prequels and they were my first introduction to Star Wars (I even remember liking Jar Jar as a kid) , so i guess I do love them in a way, but I will in no way say they’re decent films by any means. The sequel trilogy blows the prequels out of the water purely on entertainment value in my opinion. Frustrating, of course, but for the lost potential more than anything. The prequels are enjoyable in a kind of goofy comic book way, and are charming in their own deluded un-selfaware way. Jesus are they not good though.
Minus all sins for the scene with obi wan saying "hello there"
General Kenobi!
Minus all sins for Obi-wan
@@viperx2384 you are a bold one
PREACH!
And + billion wins
Cinema Sins: Makes joke
"Oh might aswell add a sin"
Lost me at calling the first 24 minutes "bullshit"
First 24 minutes is an absolute ride and the best part of the prequels.
it might have looked cool and fun but he calls it bullshit cause the plan on both sides were nonexistent
@@luisma2548 It was a pretty large battle (Over 1000 capital ships) at that scale you give up all tactics and just throw your forces at the enemy it is kinda like in WW1 where there were so many forces it would have been impossible to coordinate a strategy so they just threw their men at the enemy.
@@luisma2548 and how on earth could you possibly know that? I suppose you are an expert on war tactics ?
@@luisma2548 There was a plan lmao
@@luisma2548 the battle of courscant was a clusterfuck of a battle in Lore as well. This was because the Republic ships werent all one cohesive fleet but instead where many separate fleets that had jumped into the system after the CIS attacked the planet to reinforce the courscant home fleet, who was getting torn to shreds.
1:43 You think R2 ACCIDENTALLY sprayed oil on the droids and then caught them on fire? How can you possibly be THIS bad at you job?!
Should’ve sinned the fact r2 does nothing like that again for the rest of the franchise.
Nitpicky assholes will be nitpicky assholes.
A lot of people here never watched cinema sins and this shows lol
@@flighttrain1189 exactly every favorite movie he did sins on I laughed at honestly
@@flighttrain1189 *a lot of prequel children cant stand to see their holy grail take any type of criticism that is serious or satirical
There's no Disney logo for The Force Awakens
Haha yeah it was a pleasant surprise. At least Disney has respect for the fans and it was pretty humble of them.
And there was no castle
+toonamioncrack Disney announced their would be no Disney logo months ago.
+Jake De Santiago Well you don't see the Disney castle on marvel movies...
Not a regular one that comes before their animated movies but they made it clear Disney owns Star Wars
My algorithm threw this up again in my watch list, and once again I am reminded of my major objection to the prequel trilogy; HOW DOES AMIDALA SLEEP IN NIGHTIES WITH THAT MUCH HARDWARE ON THEM????? She must wake up covered in pressure dimples shaped like jewelry.
"The ability to speak does not make one intelligent."
That line's from The Phantom Menace, not Revenge of the Sith.
Earnest scribbler duh
I SPEK
For #37 did you like black out when Grievous (the "robot") escaped in an escape pod and Anakin said "All the escape pods have been launched."? Come on.
him: sins the "Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?" scene
Me: "You are a bold one"
Ikr! He's like the worst movie reviewer in history!
Brave but foolish, Jeremy
Exactly he is so bad he did not even give what is a sin so we can understand the counter
"You are an autistic one"
"She's okay, but have you seen her decoy?" lol that was a good one
The thing that gets me about Ani's dream is that she isn't specifically dying. She is screaming and crying.... I know Jedi sex ed is underfunded but does he not know that screaming and crying is a normal birth activity?
To be fair, nobody in this series seems to know how anything works.
This is my favorite comment! Hahah! Yesss!!
Actually, RoTS takes place 3 years after AoTC so the attack on Coruscant is completely plausible.
The film never states how much time has gone by since attack of the clones... unless im wrong and at some point its mentioned... in the film
Canonically, The Clone Wars took place from 22-19 BBY
Morgan Kaplan I thought it was ten years
Daniel Mitchell it was ten years from phantom menace to attack of the clones
Damm ,Anakin aged quickly
Obi-Wan liners
No...... just no
Shid pants
0:49 Fun fact, in the clone wars series there were a set of separatist droids they snuck into republic buildings disguised as transport droids. Then the detonated inside, killing many.
yes
He adds a sin for the Wookie doing the Tarzan yell, yet Chewbacca does the same yell when he's swinging to the ATST in Return Of The Jedi.
The hypocrisy is strong in this one.
Jesse78156 Was Return Of The Jedi a new trilogy movie?
General Grievous is a cyborg, not a robot.
You must be fun at parties
Terrasoup Same could be said about you though.
Reclaimer2525
I dont know which is funnier?.... these videos or the fact you you R2D-bags get all technical and offended by it!
He wasn't just ANY cyborg fukin moron - he tha kaleesh warrior, body fashioned into a cybernetic weapon!! Notorious for his lightning quick strikes and devastating blows now GET FUKED
+ he took light sabers from jedi he murked cause they made FINE additions to his COLLECTION!!
aaron schmuker
Wow! Dont take it so serious dude. Its all in good fun. Besides, wasnt one caped, cybernetic, light-saber using bad guy with a breathing problem good enuff? Only Lucas can out-vader Vader, before he is even made yet LOL
"Something something Jedi escape pod"
Jesus, he really doesn't even watch these movies, does he?
Ikr literally 10 seconds earlier obiwan said the escape pods were launched
even though 87% can be debuked or isn't a sin.
This whole video is a joke and you did not get it lmao
You guys are aware this is essentially a satire channel right? Far too many people taking his "sins" seriously and it's just as funny as the video itself
@This is A troll so basically he channel is stupid and pointless
How can anyone not enjoy the opening to this movie?
The battle is fantastic, way ahead of it's time with the CGI. The epic fight with Duku. It's got it all.
Padmé: Anakin, you’re breaking my heart.
Anakin: Silly Padmé, it’s pronounced “neck.”
tell me why i CACKLED
How in tf did you not realize he’s a cyborg when you see his eyes while fighting Obi wan. You get a sin for not realizing droids don’t have organic eyes.
@@Megadog33 Unlike this clown of a "movie expert."
You get a sin for repeating a joke a making it unfunny.
macaryl95
Dude, have you heard of satire?
My Gills I wasn’t repeating a joke dumb ass lol. The running joke is “you get sin for not realizing he’s a cyborg.” I mentioned his eyes. Nice try kid
My Gills also have you seen my Profile pic? Foh with that shit I’m salty of this guy
1:58 Anakin faced many sith in the clone Wars. Which is in fact canon
Many Sith? Nah, only Dooku, and two secret apprentices who were trained in the Sith arts but were not officially Sith.
You shouldn't need content outside a film to explain the film. Clone Wars is great, but this is a video about a film, not a cartoon.
The Aussie Nerd I mean for a solo film yes but this is literally the 3rd film of 3. That’s like reading only the ending of a book and wondering why it doesn’t make sense.
@@joeywitkus3781 I can't tell if you agree or disagree with the point I made
Hello there.
G. Lucas: "Let's make Grievous cough as he appears so it's clear that he's a ciborg not a robot"
Cinema Sins: 1:24
Though, to be fair, any Astromech Droid can do the things R2 does. R2, and all the color swap versions of him, are merely the latest series of Astromech Droids. What most people *don't* know, however, is that most droids are meant to be memory wiped periodically, so that their personalities don't get too independent. R2 has never been memory wiped.
Shawnee Longbow R2 has actually been memory wiped at least twice in the franchise. However both times they didn't go far enough with the wipe. The first time he was memory wiped was when he was kidnapped by Cad Bane's crew to gain access to the information he had on the Republics battle strategies at the time. Bane simply had R2's memory of the encounter wiped. The second time was at the end of ROTS when he and 3PO had their memories of Anakin and the others wiped. Their personalities were kept however.
All correct, except R2's memory was not wiped in ROTS. Senator Organa orders 3PO's memory wiped, mostly because he talks too much and they didn't want him spilling things. R2 however remembers everything.
Andre Ransom HS that's dark
Pybread The PyroMancer R2 is the only one who remembers the events of Ep.1 and 2.
You were wrong when you said they’ve only faced one Sith Lord and that anakin is a newbie but they faced count dooku in episode 2
I feel like they didnt know its been 4 years and a whole war since aotc
Okay so.
Episode 1: Obi faced and killed Maul.
Yoda says there are always 2 Sith.
Episode 2: Dooku beats both of them.
Episode 3: "Sith lord is our specialty" while facing Dooku, indicating there was no other sith lord. Beside him and Sidious.
If you just take the movies themselves, then this does not make sense at all. And you are left to wonder what other Sith lords did they fight.
It’s a joke
@@MyuriMiyu ✨clone wars✨
@@MyuriMiyu the.....clone.....wars.....
+1 on the CinemaSins Sin Counter for calling Grievous a robot. LOOK AT HIS FRIGGIN' EYES
Tuberculosis
@@quagnam438 Boah!
Lol there is this one fucking idiot who thinks robots are alive and that cyborgs are robots with feelings
Crunch Bandicoot lol if you know cannon then you know what you said is so wrong
@@joecogames I know he is a Cyborg I was just saying one idiot thought robots were alive
Character: *acts like character
Cinemasins: Yeah, no that dosnt go here
When you realize the entire plot of this movie could've been completely different if Mace Windu said 3 words instead of attempting to arrest Palpatine: Initiate order 65
Too bad he wasn’t aware of that secret order made by Palpatine.
Execute Order 666: Palps gets turned into a Halloween pumpkin by Windu/the force, and Mace carves him up all nicely for the rest of the film, and places it on a stake right before the credits roll ;]
Bruh maybe if you watched the movie then you’d know the escape pods were launched by grievous
Literally 3 seconds earlier obiwan: blast the escape pods have been launched Anakin: Grievous
This video is just hating because its popular look at this movie objectively and it's great look at ROS objectively and its painful
@@spicysnowman8886 Objectively??? This movie is terrible! Script? Crap. Cinematography? Crap. Motivations? Crap.
Just because you grew up with it doesn't make it good.
@@BabysitterSky I didn't grow up with it but I still love it I'm only 15 cant say the same about the sequels
@@spicysnowman8886 Lmao okay.
Genuinely surprised “hello there” wasn’t sinned, or got a sin knocked off.
I genuinely think the General Grievous "how'd a Droid become General?" sin may be the dumbest sin so far on this channel.
What about showing Palpatine saying "Amidala our recently *elected* queen" in the Phantom sins movie and then continue to rant in 3 separate videos about not understanding how she went from queen to senator and not understanding Naboo's politics. They show it in their own video damn it :p
@@yarriddevogelaere2005 That might genuinely be tied for first place
him giving a sin for the windu/sidious fight and calling it boring is also up there in my opinion
It’s a fucking joke🤦🏽
Everything wrong with: everything wrong with rots
1: true
2: what is wrong with that?
3: unnecessary sin.
4: the crawls are necessary to know what is going on.
-also, the 2008 tv show explains how, no. We did not leave off on geonosis, and there is a logical explanation to how we got to here.
5: Jedi ships are interceptors, they are meant to intercept, not engage directly. They are stealth ships.
6: they are surviving so they can get to the invisible hand to rescue the canceller. Have you even watched the movie?
7: there are plans. The repulic is supposed to escort the Jedi into the enemy ship, whilst the CIS know about the Jedi, and are distracting the clones so that grievous can take just the Jedi.
8: technically flying is for droids, considering how many ships have droid pilots and/ or droid co-pilots, who can normally fly the ship on their own.
9:That would be a cluster bomb that would just have a large explosion.
10: he is telling obi wan because his cockpit is fogged and he can’t see.
11: it’s a running joke, whilst at the same time expressing how Jedi can feel the future, he “feels” that it is a trap. Which, eventually, it is.
12: the droid battles are necessary as it wouldn’t make sense for the general to know the Jedi are coming, and not put security on the hangar bays.
13: they have to be “r2 compatible” as the cis also uses Astromech droids And droids that feature similar slicing mechanisms.
14: he’s a cyborg that has his lungs damaged in a fight with windu.
15: the droidekas were sent from an area that required a front end approach.
16: the general wants to capture/torture the Jedi for information.
17: same point as 16.
18: that was intentional.
19:obi wan had a taste of sarcasm to it, which was meant to show the viewer how calm Jedi are in tense situations.
20: you sinned the same thing twice, and, obi was the first to defeat a sith in thousands of years.
21: I don’t get the joke, but it probably wasn’t worth a sin.
22: Anikan is cocky and arrogant, this type of statement is normal.
23: they distracted obi wan whilst ani and dooku were dueling.
24: the noise was an exclamation, at how ani was beating dooku, and palpatine was eyeing up ani as his new apprentice.
25: it doesn’t. He’s unconscious.
26: this is the start of ani’s true fall to the dark side, executing an unarmed prisoner.
27: unnecessary sin.
28: he was making anikan feel guilty.
29: wilhelm screams are aren’t worth sinning.
30: they are taking out the cannons and artillery on the ship.
31: the Jedi can use the force to negate the g-force that would have potentially made one of them pass out right there.
32:he had to wait for the timing where they were inside the area of the ray shield.
33: what does that have to do with anything right now?
34: he was a warlord that was cast for the job by dooku, and had his alien parts replaced by robot ones.
35: you mean, expensive as hell IG-100 manga guards.
36:didn’t you hear them say grievous launches all the escape pods?
37: that doesn’t even add up to 69.
38: the ships were called in by kenobi.
39: 10 miles? If that is larger than the ship it’s larger than 10 miles.
40:you mean cancular right, also, ever hear of F O R C E A B I L I T I E S
41: would you have liked it better if it just cut to them no longer on the ship?
42:we get to see it if we watch the clone wars.
43: there is no one around, so what?
44: well he was missing for a long-ish time and then the front end of the ship that he was supposed to be on crashed in front of her soooo.
45: you win. You get a point. I can’t think of a reason this is wrong.
46: most of their senses are clouded by the dark side.
47: that is unrelated to this Kabufle of ani-Palme relationship.
48: that was the worst moment of his life as it marked the beginning of his fall to the dark side,
49: ha ha very funny.
50: *exhausted and angry heavy breathing* you win again.
51: I have become the very thing I have sworn to destroy, I agree.
52: he is feeling into the future.
53: it’s not that much, turn your brightness down.
54: you think somebody in a Speeder is just gonna fly past and say “hey is that Anikan and Palme sleeping together?”
55: what
56: if you are so interested there is probably a comic that explains that.
57: the dark side clouds their vision, except Anikan because palps is making him have visions.
58: everything except fear, anger, hate, pain, guilt,
59: it’s not Jedi 101, more like, Jedi 102, his arrogance
60: they lost a battle on salucami, master vos has moved his troops to boss pity.
i was about to do this myself lmao
How many times did u misspell Anakin? *ping*
Lmao u don’t watch many movies do you. Also you’re reaching to justify sins that were a result of very lazy/bad writing.
@@Max-du9uo
I think you may be taking these sins (and the idea as a whole) too seriously. While it is rather accurate to call it bad/lazy writing, I think that's part of the charm, and UA-cam isn't exactly the go-to place for meaningful criticisms.
holy shit star wars fans are some of the saltiest incels in existence
Anybody think about how Palpatine went from Darth Sidious to Darth Hideous in about 10 seconds?
SubExoticShadow He was using an ability called force mask once you turn to the dark you become deformed over time because of the power and when it shit back at him it deteriated away
Alright..I was almost about to question you but concidering the source,Shit back does sound accurate.
The Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith are my 2 favorites. Also, how can you sin someone with 4 lightsabers?
nicholas middaugh - For losing even though he has FOUR FREAKING LIGHTSABERS?!!!!
Kristin Randall it is obi wan tho
@WaluigiShrek Good plot / (shit acting * shit writing) = shit movie.
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid I don't know of anyone in the film who is objectively a bad actor, it's entirely the shit lines that makes it dodgy
It was still hot garbage
3:06 Grievous launched all escape pods. By the time that the four got to the pods, they would all be out of range. A Force-user has to know where something is in order for them to be able to use the Force on it. Then, by the time that the trio got to the cockpit of the ship, the ship would have crashed and killed all three and Artoo.
9:03 To be fair, Chewbacca did the Tarzan yell in ROTJ during the Battle of Endor.
Not in the original, stupid special edition
I actually liked the Prequel Trilogy.
**braces for hate**
Also, General Grievous isn't a robot, he's a cyborg.
+Ging3rman117 You're an idiot, obviously, because you like something someone somewhere doesn't like.
+Ging3rman117 I Liked Them To, Don't Worry. But Simon Pegg Now Hates You Because Anyone Who Likes The Prequels Are Hated By Him!
+Mike L What? What Does Kappa Mean? Why'd You Call Him An Idiot He Can Have Opinions Like Me.
Daniel Hernandez Oh Fuck Off. He Can Have Opinions.
+Questfortime909 I am pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
Questfortime909 VenusWarlords I am fluent in over six million forms of sarcasm
"Something wonderful has happened, anakin"
"That's wonderful"
"I'm pregnant"
"LIAR! You're fat"
Heralds_Gamer underrated this is. I read this in the voices...
I see a fellow man of culture
Revenge of the sand
@@eoinomalley4835 “I HATE You!!”
Revenge of the sand I my favourite YTP
But to be fair "I've got a bad feeling about this" shouldn't be a sin...... it's one of if not the most iconic lines from all of star wars
Eight f*cking seconds of CinemaSins intro...
"You dare use one of my own spells against me potter" 🤣
*IRONIC*
1 F*CKING COMMENT FROM A DEAD MEME
It annoyed me that he didn’t take a sin off for the hello there thing
SwordiNo why
Lushy ikr
@@wootorsheepyt9138 It's a throwback to A New Hope
you do know greivous is a cyborg, not a droid, right. thats why hes coughing
the movie never elaborated on this, you'd have to look up extra info to know that off the bat, same thing with just about all the lore "established" in the prequels
+Caleb Ueckert he has a heart and actual eye balls. Doesn't take much to put two and two together to figure out he's a cyborg
+Caleb Ueckert he has MEAT
+Kenny Yaska LMFAO no man, what are you saying? We need to be _explicitly_ told that a robot with human-like internal organs is not actually a fully fledged fucking robot! :')
+AdjutantReflex what are you even saying? Did you read the comment I replied to?
Cinemasins: ROTS sucks, it needs a part 2
Unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way
Who won't see it that way?
@@CulturalMarxist4985 history
Earnest scribbler are you dumb
@@GeneralGrievous-tn2hi But the vid's got like 85K likes.
@@CulturalMarxist4985 this video was created in a time where the prequels were still hated
This movie was the least worse of all the prequels. It actually was pretty good. I admit Phantom was horrible, Attack was bad, but Revenge was actually decent. I think Star Wars just has fans that will never be satisfied. I'm bracing for a ton of hate here but the original trilogy had flaws okay? For instance you mean to tell me these guys built a gigantic killing planet and they totally didn't think about the fact that you could blow the damn thing up with one bomb through an exhaust port???? Not just that but they said hell the first one didn't work so let's build another gigantic fucking Death Star and make that one just as easy to destroy. It has flaws like every other movie because it's just that a movie. A great movie and a classic but it's a movie. Are the prequels as good as the originals? Never and they never will be but they aren't the worst movies ever made.
respect!
+Malcolm Reynolds
Side note, the exhaust port would logically be pushing air/stuff out, so it wasn't unreasonable of them to assume a bomb would go directly against physics and just ignore the airflow and whatnot.
The Death Star was destroyed by a magical space wizard...
I'll admit the exhaust port could maybe have used a twist or a turn, just to avoid that sort of thing.
The second Death Star is just stupid.
+Barely Edited The second one is destroyed cuz it was under construction. It's the third one that's stupid.
+Malcolm Reynolds Totally agreed. If you go on IMDB and look at the reviews for ep VII, loads of original trilogy elitists are giving it 1/10. I though it was actually really good, but I guess some people just have cognitive bias: nothing will ever be as good as the original trilogy -- because the fans won't allow it. Shame really; they were flawed movies, just like all other movies, and if ep VII was released a few years after VI, I bet they would love it...
Galen Marek
Oh, man, Starkiller base just pisses me off.
I’m not trying to be an asshole but general greivous coughs because
1. He’s a cyborg so he has a living respiratory system
2. Mace windu crushed his robot parts into his respiratory system
This isn't explained in the film, so it's a sin.
AIONBERSERKER
not really since the damage was covered in the original clone wars cartoon he first appeared in. I think the fact that he is coughing should be clue enough that he is obviously weakened from something.
Darthwin Wright clone wars cartoon =/= the film we are watching. If a film relies on outside material to make sense, it is badly written. The fact that he is coughing just seems stupid without any context.
AIONBERSERKER
They are part of the same universe so a film series that is part of a massive universe should not have to spoon feed information to the viewing audience.
This isn't some stand alone film is a piece to a large universe. Should be pretty obvious that a organic machine hybrid couching is a sign that he has been damaged.
darthwin Wright - I don't think you understand the point of film-making. I'll explain it slowly: take the LOTR for example. Those three films were so successful in their adaptation that I do not need to read the books to make sense of the story. The Godfather is the same - I don't need to read the books to get a complete story, the screenwriters made sure that I get a complete experience. The same goes for the silence of the lambs or Harry Potter, or the Shawshank Redemption.
As a movie-maker you have to make sure your viewers get a complete story with their admission ticket. The prequels are such a mess that it takes the EU to fix it - that is bad storytelling, especially now that the EU is not cannon according to Lucasarts.
When the average movie-goer steps into the cinema and sees a coughing robot with a cape who we know nothing about (and who has the ridiculous name of General Grievous - one step better than Captain I'm-a-bad-guy) things start to get silly.
Don't you trash Obi-Wan!
Most underrated character in any movie ever.
Taking out Darth Maul as a Padawan is impressive. He also took out Vader.
My biggest problem with this movie is that Obi-Wan and Yoda should have gone after Palpatine after Obi-Wan took out Vader.
Well Obi-Wan had to get Padme to the hospital he knew she had babies and needed to get to Polis Massa. Yoda on the other hand admitted his defeat to Sideous. And they hid in Dagobah same reason why Luke was hiding in Episode 7 cause they were the only strongest Jedi left
Had Obi Wan gone after Sidious with him he would have only got in the way. Yoda is the pinnacle of the light side and Sidious the nexus of the dark side. That's why they could only fight to a draw. Plus Yoda was hoping that either Obi Wan could bring him back or finish him off, sadly he dis neither.
When Darth Maul killed Qui Gon Jinn, that amped Obi-Wan into a Force Rage, he was still no match for Darth Maul even though he was amped by a Force Rage, you can tell in this last moment between these 2 in The Phantom Menace that Darth Maul is stronger, the best Obi-Wan could do with his Force Rage was kick Darth Maul and snap his Light Saber, but Darth Maul countered many of Obi-Wan's Swings and even kicked him in the face and Force pushed him down the hole. The novelisation of The Phantom Menace also states that a Force Raged Obi-Wan was no match for Darth Maul.
''The battle wore on, and for a time it was fought evenly. But Darth Maul was the stronger of the two and was driven by a frenzy that surpassed even the frantic determination that fueled Obi-Wan. Eventually, the Sith Lord began to wear the young Jedi down. Bit by bit, he pressed him back, carrying the attack to him, looking to catch him off guard. Obi-Wan could sense his body weakening, and his fear of what it would mean if he, too, were to fall, began to grow.'' - Taken from The Phantom Menace Novelisation.
And when Obi-Wan was Force pushed down a hole, Darth Maul had the chance to chance to quickly finish off Obi-Wan but he wasted time taunting him because he believed he already won, he wanted to finish Obi-Wan off slowly to ''savour his victory'' , if Obi Wan stayed in the hole slightly longer, Darth Maul would've finished him off by Force pushing him down the hole. Darth Maul only lost that duel because he was being cocky. But if you argue that Obi-Wan is a young Padawan and not a Jedi Knight or a Master, that can easily be debunked because Obi-Wan was ready to become a Jedi Knight and Darth Maul was the rank of a Sith Assassin during The Phantom Menace, basically a guard dog for the Sith, his Sith training was far from complete. And on top of all that, Darth Maul was 22 years old and Obi-Wan was 25 years old and ready to become a Jedi Knight.
+TheGiantPoopsicle To be honest, when I watch the prequels, I only like the Obi-Wan's part. I've always skipped Padme and Anakin's part in episode 2 since I really wanna see Obi-Wan in action.
+TheGiantPoopsicle being able to take on a sith lord as a padawan takes a lot of skill, he was able to defeat Maul when Qui Gon couldn't & even cut Maul in half
I’m surprised you didn’t sin “hello there”
I mean seriously blowing your cover immediately doesn’t exactly seem like the smartest strategy
If he did that the comment section would be filled with memes and disgruntled comments, and I could see some dislikes as well.
But what about the droid attack on the Wookiees??
@@ProperParadox Go i will.Good relationship with the wookies I have.
It's treason then