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Rat Shootout - Black Mass 1312 vs JHS PackRat

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  • Опубліковано 13 сер 2024
  • This week we're looking at two of the most popular multi-mode Rat-based distortion pedals. The Rat is absolutely my favorite drive circuit so I had a lot of fun going through these two.
    Below are links to both product pages. These are not sponsored or affiliate links. I just want to make it easy for you all to go read the individual specs for yourselves.
    That said if this video makes you want either of these it'd be super awesome if you'd slide into their DMs and let 'em know this video gave you Rat fever (gross, lol)!
    ‪@blackmasselectronics5955‬ 1312 - blackmasselect...
    ‪@jhspedals‬ PackRat - jhspedals.info...
    Intro - 00:00
    Sounds - 02:26
    Final Thoughts - 10:05
    ++ Gear Used ++
    1999 MIM Fender Telecaster
    Black Mass 1312
    JHS PackRat
    Audient iD4
    Tonocracy (JM45 model w/Brit-inspired 212 with Greenbacks)
    Reaper for Windows

КОМЕНТАРІ • 27

  • @patmillen9162
    @patmillen9162 Місяць тому +1

    I too use the 1312 and the asymmetrical mosfet clipping is also my favorite. I run mine pretty low gain and would recommend the pedal to anyone looking for a rat style pedal

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  Місяць тому

      Every now and then I push mine into more fuzzy territory but for the most part I run mine at lower gain settings too. Often well below 11 o’clock

  • @FuzzEater
    @FuzzEater 4 місяці тому +8

    1312 on punk ethics alone

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  4 місяці тому +5

      100% man. It’s the primary thing that drew me to this pedal when I first heard about it. I was grabbing one no matter how it sounded. Just happen to also sound really rad!

    • @tacdoc8736
      @tacdoc8736 4 місяці тому +2

      Are hasty generalizations and logical fallacies punk ethics? Adopting something trendy, because it makes you feel edgy, is about the furthest thing ever from being punk, and the epitome of cringe.. but you do you boo.

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  4 місяці тому +8

      @@tacdoc8736 I’m not entirely sure what any of this has to do with a guitar pedal. Oh wait, you must be one talking about the “1312” of it all. Supporting trans rights is neither a hasty generalization nor is it a logical fallacy. Likewise neither is recognizing the profound inequality for black people (along with many other races) in this country. Particularly in the south where I live. Punk ethics have always been and will always be anti racism, anti bigotry, anti systemic oppression, anti systemic brutality, anti authoritarian which means now and has always meant anti police. I appreciate the engagement and I’m sure throwing around phrases like “hasty generalizations” and “logical fallacies” makes you smile and chuckle to yourself, but save it for your Facebook group. It has absolutely no place here.

    • @FuzzEater
      @FuzzEater 4 місяці тому

      @@tacdoc8736 The main ingredient in toothpaste is some kind of flouride salt, like sodium flouride or stannous flouride. Some cheaper brands of toothpaste will settle with olaflur, a hydrophobic organic flouride salt. In the mouth salivary amylase breaks this down into a harmless organic chemical and free flouride ion. The flouride is what helps kill bacteria.
      However, olaflur, by virtue of being a long chain organic molecule, is somewhat lipophilic, meaning it can pass through phospholipid bilayer membranes (ie cell membranes, ie your skin). Granted it's not terribly lipophilic though, so it needs some help. The nipples, due to their porous structures (how else do you think milk can be secreted from them), allow for much easier passage than other areas of the body. Since toothpaste also contains a variety of abrasives to help clear bacterial plaques (such as calcium carbonate), placing the paste tightly against the nipples (such as with duct tape) damages the skin during normal movement and soon allows olaflur to pass through.
      Now, as I'm sure we all know, the nipples are erogenous zones. When stimulated they become erect. Like penile erection, this requires increased blood flow to the nipple. Since the nipples are being stimulated by a combination of the duct tape and the toothpaste (further exacerbated by the mint flavorings) this results in greatly increased bloodflow which allows the now-absorbed olaflur to enter the blood where it then dissociates into the organic ion and flouride ion.
      At this point flouride ion is transported to the brain where it passes through the blood-brain barrier due to its small size. Due to its negative charge it is capable of interferring with ion concentrations in the cerebrospinal fluid and alter the firing rates of neurons in the brain. This is what causes the high that is often reported with pasting.

    • @MrMackingit
      @MrMackingit Місяць тому +1

      @@tacdoc8736lol just saying the phrase punk ethics and going for it because that, is as punk as Blink. 182 drummer charging $1000 to see him back stage with his Kardashian wife 😂😂😂😂

  • @mrNobody100
    @mrNobody100 7 днів тому +1

    i liked the idea of the packrat, but didn't feel like dropping that much for a pedal. then i heard about the 1312 and what Black Mass does with half the proceeds of the pedal, and i did feel like dropping that much for a pedal. i have to have a RAT on my board, and i like having the 1312 on there, it sounds rad. i think i usually leave it on one of the asymmetrical clipping settings (4th setting clockwise. i remember hearing some versions had the mode switch upside down on accident, so some of the online demos differ depending on the version.) anyways, long live the RAT pedal!

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  7 днів тому +1

      I had pretty much the same reaction to it. When the heard the 1312 for the first time I was like “this is cool”. When I learned about where the money goes I was like “placing order now” lol.

  • @The..Butterfly..Effect
    @The..Butterfly..Effect 4 місяці тому +2

    The RAT 1 - the PackRat sound 😎

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  4 місяці тому +1

      It’s pretty gnarly. Odd thing is my favorite mode is the CGC Wave Cannon lol

  • @Shadoweclipse1386
    @Shadoweclipse1386 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the demo! Ive been looking into a 1312 for a little while to be "my Rat-type pedal". I used to have an Arc Effects Soothsayer and miss how crunchy it could get. I've currently got an EQD Life V2, but it's not doing it for me. The 1312 sounds SO perfect.

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  3 місяці тому +1

      The 1312 is incredible. And with it having a bunch of different clipping options you can really dial it in to fit perfectly in your rig.

  • @DanielBrophyMusic
    @DanielBrophyMusic Місяць тому +1

    It's unfortunate that Black Mass didn't put any labels on the Clip knob. It's pretty hard to tell which one we're hearing. So comparing different model types across the 2 pedals that aren't necessarily even the same sound is a bit disorienting. Overall though, I gotta say, preferred most of the 1312 tones.

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  Місяць тому +1

      I think putting it on the face of the pedal would have been too messy. But I have seen builders put a label on the back of the pedal. That’s helpful. JHS’ distinguish marks aren’t super useful if you aren’t aware of the history of each version of the circuit. That’s why instead of individual models being compared it was more of an all of one pedal and all of the other kind of thing.

    • @masterofreality230
      @masterofreality230 Місяць тому

      @@BMinusDemos It doesnt matter if someone knows the history of rats, people can still remember which ones they like by abbreviation alone on the JHS. Not a fan of Black Mass, if they didnt make their politics part of their design and brand I would not care, but they donate to causes that I believe are complete nonsense. Not a bad pedal, but I am not advertising those things on my board by association.

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  Місяць тому +2

      @masterofreality230 Sounds like someone spent their day walking around with a bad wipe. Try an unscented flushable wipe. It’ll clean that shit up real good and still protect your gentle sensibilities 👍

  • @bw5260
    @bw5260 4 місяці тому +2

    Man I love my 1312... not a bad sound out of that pedal.
    I am curious though, I'd like to see a 3-way shootout between the 1312, the Longsword, and the Heavy Menace.
    I know they're all quite different in that the 1312 has 8 different clipping modes, the Heavy Menace has a gating option, and the Longsword has a boost. But they all seem like they do distortion better than everything else, and if I had to pick one, I'm not sure which would be right for me.

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  4 місяці тому +1

      The Longsword is definitely on my wish list. I’ve played a couple on different rigs and they always sound killer. I’ve seen videos for the Heavy Menace but I’ve never actually played one. I’d definitely be down for a shootout with those three though. Just gotta get my hands on the other two lol

    • @bw5260
      @bw5260 4 місяці тому +1

      @@BMinusDemos Thanks for the reply. Absolutely love your channel and how you talk about pedals and try out gear in the context of the music I like. Keep it up!

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  4 місяці тому

      @bw5260 thanks! Legit makes my day to know people are enjoying the videos.

    • @Steven-re3tx
      @Steven-re3tx 2 місяці тому +1

      My Empress Heavy Menace is untouchable,..
      I am looking at the packrat.

    • @BMinusDemos
      @BMinusDemos  2 місяці тому

      @Steven-re3tx Anytime I talk about how much I dig Rats someone suggests the Heavy Menace. It just came up at my local shop recently. I definitely need to try one.