This is probably the best video on not only street photography but photography in general I have seen in a long time. Actually its one of the only videos I've seen on photography in a long time. Most of them are really about gear and/or just thinly veiled ads for gear. I dont' really do much street photography but have photographed at a few events with my big ol D800. And you're right. Even with a Leica trying to pretend like you're not taking photos is the wrong move. You're not James Bond. People can tell. You just look like you're doing it for nefarious reasons if you try to hide it. But if you dont' act like you're dong something wrong and instead have total confidence, few notice and even less care that you are taking photos. It seems like a paradox but in many cases it is true that the more overt you are, the more you blend in. In fact if you use a bigger camera at an event like a fair, airshow, festival, ect in a smallish-medium size town/venue and even some larger ones and walk around like you own the place, some people will assume you are being paid to shoot it even if you're not. So they will get out of your way, let you go/stand places they would normally would shoo people out of completely unchallenged, even invite you into said places.. I never lie if asked directly of course. But if someone offers me to stand in a closer/better spot or simply doesn't tell me not too because they think I'm the official photographer and can't even be bothered to ask me if I am, I'm not saying no to that either. Plus people, especially those in costumes, performers, or those with a look they are proud of, will pose for you as soon as the see your camera without you even asking. But on the flip side of that there is still enough people around to get candid shots unnoticed even with a big camera.
Great video and great photos for reference to your points. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but I have a hard time defining street photography as one thing. I think aesthetics light, shapes. Shadows and humans all coming together in photo IS street photography just as much as taking portraits of strangers. I do think it’s important to challenge yourself and engage with humans while on the street as well. I think great photographers can do both tbh
I don't know if you got comments cursing you, but I couldn't add anything to what you said, it was perfect. Man I can't stand any more bad "street" pictures on instagram or on UA-cam channels of people so afraid of even their own shadow. They shoot a street full of people from a far, with nothing in particular going on, just random people walking and call it street photography, just because it envolves a street and some people. It's boring, time consuming and it makes me look bad for speaking the truth. So don't apologize for being honest, they should man up. Great channel man, keep up the good work....!!
I like approaching people to photograph, too. I usually start the conversation with a compliment, like "I love your hair", and then have a short conversation with them before I ask to take their photo. It's way to say I'm interested in you. Most people say yes to a photograph. I often give them my personal street photography "business" card I had printed up with my Flickr account and my email address, then offer to send them a copy of the photo if they email me.
Almost totally agree with everything. Love the way you present it, and I’m hoping you’ll start posting here again. My two cents: too often what's flogged as street photography is more invasion of privacy on the cusp of stalking....as you say, creepy.
Q, I've subscribed to your channel because I appreciate your style and substance. I believe sincerely that I can learn something from you through your documented photography experiences. That said, in this video you speak like someone who knows what fear is. What abuse is. What it means to be depressed or mentally challenged for any number of reasons. You know that there are all manner of people trying to find their voice, their way, their strength. Some of those folks may have found themselves through the medium of photography. Now, I'm all about being real, but there are times when we have to be temperate in how we articulate our point. You seem like 'good people'. And I believe that you can help 'good people'. Just remember how long it took you to find your way from a bad place. And respect their fragility while they look for the same exit. I love your work Brother. I'm a 'demanding' enthusiast not a pro. But in the counseling/Behavioural Health world -- yeah...
This is exactly what I needed to hear right now. I'm just getting started shooting on my dad's Leica M7 and street photography is something I'm heavily gravitating towards. The stuff you are preaching in this video is invaluable and I appreciate big time. All the best and please keep doing you bruh. Cheers, Drew
This is the best advice... You get so close to people and your photographs don't look posed. They don't look like candid photographs, because the people in your photographs, seem so relaxed or more like willing participants. Great work and keep bringing that advise!💡🎥🎬👏🏽🔥🎤POWERZ!
I just found your channel; I found it by looking for gear reviews (of course) but your non-gear thoughts are great. I'm not a street photographer but everything you say here is relevant to all types of photography. The quote might be Bruce Davidson's: "All my photographs are portraits-self-portraits, because you can’t photograph someone without reflecting/echoing, like a bat sending out a signal that comes back to you. You get not only a picture of who you’re photographing, but you get a picture of yourself at the same time.” But the same sentiment's been expressed by lots of people.
Amazing video, great advice and... you are right about being lazy, scared, shy and not having the ability to get close to people and interact with them to make a real connection and record real moments. Thanks man, one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time which did not make fall asleep.
"You're not close enough" isn't about physical distance. It's often the problem, but it's about the meaning/emotion. You're not close enough to the subject. You're not close enough to the message. You see it, but you're not willing to dive into into it. Being closer isn't just about standing 1mm away from your subject, it's about being a part of your subject to the point you understand it.
100% true that if you are afraid of something you should point your camera at it. I did some helicopter shots for a music video once in Miami. Our pilot was a legend who was a Vietnam Vet. We were chasing down a cigarette boat sideways going extremely low to the water. Normally I would be freaked out beyond belief, but I kept my eye glued to the eyepiece focusing on my composition. When we got done with our run I turned back to my AC. He had a look of abject terror on his face, holding on for dear life. Focusing on the shot helped calm me down and took away the fear.
Great points man. I too share your concern about this "fishing" trend being passed off as street photography (especially in black and white photography). Each time I see an image with a sliver of light or 98% negative space, etc. I can't help but to think of Winogrand's complaint (even back then) that these kinds of images are illustrations and not photographs. The subject matter of the image isn't the human, it's the aesthetic in and of itself, teaching us nothing about what it means to be human. I also feel like this trend is an incredible disservice to the work of Fan Ho. Really admire your work on Instagram btw. Here's my handle @davebabayev, mostly D.C. streets as of late.
Agreed! I think there is merit in anyones work whos willing to get out there and just do it but some stuff is simply just a crutch and stops people from moving forward and progressing with their work, in my opinion. Checked out your IG btw and I dig your shots! Keep it up!
I agree.... BUT your talking mainly about streets portraits (more or less). Is a streetportrait streetphotography. However, great content - following now.
🙌🙌🙌 I am not a street photographer- I am definitely going to use this advice 💯 percent! The photos you just displayed on here are 🔥🔥🔥🤟 . Definitely sharing this !
Listen dude, who told you that you can say whats street photography, first off. Secondly why is a zoom lens necessarily lame or lazy or wrong or afraid? Why having a 1 or 100 mp sensor matters? And why cropping sucks? Everybody crops first off but even if they dont its not lame or wrong or whatever you are saying in your video. Also you dont need a big megapixel sensor to crop, you can crop whatever with whatever sensor. Overall in photography there is nothing right or wrong. You are doing a certain style of street photography. Doesnt mean other styles are bad or suck. This goes also for how the other styles of photography and street photography are made. By the way you can find my work here: www.boareye.com And @boareye on Instagram.
No one told me I could or couldn't say anything. It's just my opinion. Take it or leave it. If my video triggered you in some way, then that's something you'll have to address with yourself. I'll keep speaking my mind and making videos the way I see fit. In other news- I checked out your IG and you've got some good work. Really nice colors and composition. Looking forward to seeing more. Thanks for stopping by!
"Hi . . . my name is Jim and I suck at street photography . . ." Great video man, I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel. I'm in Atlanta too! My IG is @jameshemauer - been shooting film all my life but just started taking it a little more seriously.
"Hi Jim!" glad you enjoyed this video. Checked out your IG and you're definitely on the right track and you've got good taste in cars haha. Hope to see more of your work soon!
"I know what I like and I know what I don't like..." Keeping it real and speaking truth. Too much of today's visual pablum for the sheeple masses is TBH, lazy photography (and video for that matter) - Like you, I know what I like and it's not the current crop of most of the photographers today. Anyone can take a technically proficient image, but if it doesn't have the passion, the soul of the captured moment by the photographer, it's no worth looking at IMO. BI've been a photojournalist, documentary and street photographer full time since the late'80's, rubbed elbows with some petty prestigious photographers and still to this day I still worry that my work isn't good enough. Attending Eddie Adams Workshop in 1992 raised the bar of expectations I have with my work and the work of others. I will say I discovered your channel a couple of days ago, and your work is some of the finest I've seen lately and I don't hand out that kind of praise to just anyone. Your stepping back from (Anti) Social Media and its illusion is a major step in the right direction. I come from the days of reaching out one to one with physical printed pieces, phone calls, and at the very least a properly composed introductory email. That's my current plan while using the one social media account I still have (IG) to drive people to my website for a more proper engagement. Look at the work of Alex Webb and William Albert Allard... Their use of color still influences my work to this day and I never considered myself a color shooter until seeing their work. IG Handle: @cliffetzelphoto Off of my soap box now...
Enjoyed the video! Seems like learning different styles photography is a never ending process. Looking to apply some of these tips to help my street photography suck less. Thanks 😊
Good video and amazing portraits!! The most real ones I've ever seen. I love your black and white, on the contrary, I hate mine haha. The "avoid the creepy telephoto-photographer style" is a must but maybe these people use telephoto lenses because they're looking for that look in their pictures. I mean, the compression and that stuff. You give good advices but most of the displayed photos weren't street photos, but portraits and posed photos. Street photography has just a few restrictions but one of them is the picture must be candid, unposed. You can't as photographer interfere in the picture and set it up. The "sit here, look here, you guys stand there..." is a no-no in street photography. If you click on my username you can watch my videos and some street photos. I also post on Instagram (tengu_ig) but the pictures I post there are my worst ones before I delete them.
Thanks for your input and I'm glad you enjoy my work! I'll agree that being in the moment and being able to make pictures candidly is an important element in street photography but I don't think that it's a hard rule- especially if I'm not asking anyone to change anything about themselves but rather to allow me to get closer and explore whatever it is that drew me to them in the first place. I think the only real rule of street photography is "pics or it didn't happen." That is to say; Were you there? Did you make the picture of whatever it is that you saw? Does it tell a story? From what I'm seeing in your work, you've got that down! Great stuff!
This was interesting! Thanks for sharing. I had a good laugh when an artist friend, a painter, dismissed photography as an art form, saying it should be banned for several years. But just think how that might improve photography.
That’s certainly an interesting thought. I happen to remember a time when people didn’t have social media and photography as an art form was in many ways more respected but the innovation that’s happened with photography in the last decade has created completely new ways of looking at and creating art!
You speak the truth about street photography composition, I will have to step up my game and learn to point my camera at what I’m afraid of...great advice...and so true with those photographers who shoot with mega zoom lenses....wtf....
How's it going, Q?.. I enjoyed the video, i've been following you off and on for several years now. I too love your work. I see you're not on flickr anymore.. That's pretty much the only place where I post regularly nowadays. Anyway, I'm in the ATL area, and I shoot mostly film. Among my favorite bodies are my Leica M4, and my Nikon F3.. Do you do any group photo walks in town. My favorite place to go is the beltline, been shooting there for years. I wish you continued success, bro!
Tips been truly helpful. I shoot a lot with 50mm. I struggle a lot with getting close or asking people for their photos to be taken. Social anxiety sucks lol. I’m Fairly new to shooting film. Will you in the future make a video discussing zone focusing or indoor portraits using film?
I feel the socially awkward part. I'm that way if I don't have a camera in my hand but it all comes with practice. I think a video on indoor portraits is a great idea! As for Zone focusing, I've got a bit of that in my next video set to drop this evening!
Your stuff is good but a lot of your “street work” is more documentary since they’re not candid. Candid is a huge part of street photography wouldn’t you say? Also street is more than taking pictures of people. @leicajockey
Thanks! I agree 100% that street photography is MUCH more than making pictures of people but I don't believe that pictures must be candid in that the subject must be unaware. I just believe in "pics or it didn't happen" Also, I think you've got some pretty spectacular work on your page and the way you see light is top notch!
@@quintaviusoliver8149 I kinda have to agree here on the candidness. I don't do street portraits and I rarely engage with people - well, sometimes sure. This doesn't mean that the subjects have to be unaware. Its just that, you know, I gets to do what I gets to do, and they gets to do what they gets to do. Other than that, totally agree with the points made in the video. I like your stuff too, its brilliant. Really enjoyed the Cuba set, having been shooting there myself. www.flickr.com/photos/jupaau/ Anyway, you just got yourself a subscriber.
@@quintaviusoliver8149 Oh, and I´m not into labels at all. Who really gives a sh1t what is "street photography" and what is not. Your stuff is just that, your stuff.
What a great video! Cool work. But maybe you are talking more about street portraits, than candid street photography as a genre? But anyway - love your style and way of thinking.
Thanks and good point! I think of street photography as an all encompassing genre- if one sees something interesting or something cool happens, make a picture!
the long zoom lens (and vlogs) are definitely strange - though what is your max focal length prime that you are willing to go for or have used? Or nothing above 50mm? feel like the general idea from another channel talking about telephoto is to use it's benefit of compression to create a unique image that a regular wide can not. going out to do night flash street photography - no more relying on high ISO - gotta get over that fear real fast to do that one haha
Look at Saul Leiter he used a long lens for his street photography, (typically a 90mm) Was very criticised for it and for using colour ("serious" street photographers only used b&w at that time). I feel there's not one only orthodox way of doing street photography, there are many. But I get what you say about shooting people at a long distance, and how overcoming certain fears can make you progress as a photographer .
Really love your way of making pictures and the end result. Agree that these 5 point will make you improve your streetphotography. I don't like too much this trend of trying to define what it is really streetphotography and which is the way to shot it. I agree to rather have a 35 mm or 28mm than longer lenses. In my case I don't mind if the pictures are candid or if you have approached the persons or the scene, I enjoy both situations and in the end is showing the times we are living or universal feelings. Funny you mentioned shooting peoples backs...I did a video just to explain that you should avoid these pictures and one I did as a bad example ended up being a picture I liked🤭. As any other craft, photography, in this case street, we need to go through a process of learning, experiencing situation and finding your place. It is important to enjoy the process, some people will not go their first day to the street and take the kind of picture that it is in your face...maybe they will start with a back, but probably after taking several hundred of them they will become bored, and will start confronting their fears... For many years I have focused my joy in music and photography in the end result and was getting a bit frustrated. In the past years I am more oriented in enjoying the process and be very present in the moment, I am not thinking too much in the end result and it has made a big difference. Much more joy and some very nice end result I could have never imagine. I have stopped putting my self limits stabilised by what other think or expect, and more focus what I want and enjoy. Keep the good work, you have earned a new subscriber. I really enjoy your insights keep posting them!!!
Q ... I’m a big fan of your channel and your work. As far as shooting with a telephoto lens goes Saul Leiter comes to mind. He shot shot with a long lens. I don’t know if he looked creepy or not but who cares. There are no rules in art. As for me I don’t photograph people here is my Instagram @theofficialocon Even though our work is very different I have a tremendous appreciation for what you do.
I just found your channel man. I love what you're putting out there, your work is amazing. I'm in Atlanta too and I'm just getting started but I love seeing the amazing work people have been able to make in it despite it not being the most popular place for street photography. Keep it up man, you've got a new fan.
I have 12+ reasons why I suck at streetphotography. It's a daily battle. One day I hope to make a decent photo 🤞🏾. Love the mini lectures and reviews. Subscribed. Be safe and keep those moments real. @str33t.shinobi
What would you say to those people who say if you approach a person and talk to them it’s no longer street photography? Maybe classical street photography is either creepy or confrontational. What are you thoughts?
One, as a street/doc photographer with 23 years behind me, and boy am I sick of all these people who think street is this new thing, and who think since they’ve been at it for a year they have some mastery of the genre. I could be wrong, but you don’t seem to be in that category. Two, I’m guessing you live in Atlanta. I don’t think people know how different shooting street is from town to town. I grew up in the south but got as far away as I could as soon as I could. I’ve always wanted to shoot in areas like Bankhead and five points but I would think one needs an in to those areas as the south tends to be territorial. I’m just being honest, and correct me if you disagree, but predominantly working class areas that are predominantly black can be(and with good reason) hostile towards outsiders as I’m guessing the assumption is that they will be taken advantage of or misrepresented or both. I know my intentions are decent but to convey that to a stranger can be difficult. I know how I would handle this, but it would take a lot of time usually. Are you acclimated to any of those areas of Atlanta? I’m looking for a quick in to get some sample shots I could use to acquire funding for a long term project. The project is an attempt to illustrate American apartheid. I would try to visit areas where the “minority “ population is actually the majority but they are still hugely underrepresented in local government, where there is voter suppression, where it’s still heavily segregated and basically still Jim fucking crow bullshit. So, yeah, a big project that would take a lot of time effort and coin with no way to break even. Cause that’s how I stay skinny.
Well to put it plainly, I’ve been all over the world and photographed in many different communities. You’re right in saying that no two places are the same but people, regardless of race, demographic, occupation, or any other factors are largely the same. Respect is respect no matter where you go. London, New Delhi, Atlanta, New York, Compton… people just want to know you’re genuine. Walk up to people and just ask how their day is going. It’s never mattered for me where I am and I’ve never needed an in to walk through any hood. That’s all on your own confidence. Everywhere I go, I act like I belong there and I approach everyone with respect. Never had to give it any more thought than that. To me, if you need an in, the best way is to just create your own by talking with any and everyone you see.
When you're shooting with a rangefinder camera, do you zone focus? If so, wondering if there is a standard aperture that you tend to use or whether it's more fluid. Thanks!
Some truly amazing street portraits there. May I ask did you made these primarly by a) approaching the person, lifting the camera, taking the picture/s and then having a chat - or b) did you first ask? Edit: As you asked, feel free to get inspired or hate at instagram.com/klotsi/. I definitely have strong roots in street / documentary / journalism / news photography but no place in life for that right now, so applying a lot of that feeling-capture to more artistic approach. I also shoot a lot other things as well, but thats another story.
You've definitely got a dreamy ethereal feel to your pictures! Good stuff! To answer your question, I generally just ask if I can make a picture first and that gets people to let their guard down.
For better or worse I take my photography seriously. I dont do street bc I dont like people in my photos. I feel a huge weight of doing the subject justice. Tough one. Also i hate spray and pray-you cant come from film and think that way.
Your videos have popped up on my UA-cam feed on my business page but I wanted to comment from my personal page. I totally agree that there is a lot of content out there misguided under the "Street Photography" genre. I try not to be a purist or Leica snob but my skin crawls when I see people posting content from the street from long glass standing 50-100 yards away taking the same shot that I am trying to get by manipulating the scene using my zoom /telephoto (feet), ducking up and down, kneeling and squatting to get the same shot. The vibrations and energy of the capture is felt in being immersed and saturated in the MOMENT. Good job my brother. @33rd_eye_photography
I absolutely love your content. Your nude photography is my favorite. I really enjoy your street photography and portrait work as well. I reference your work a lot in my classes. Your photographs inspire me. My photos are NOTHING compared to your work but I’d love to hear your feedback and suggestions. @photography_gal90 Amanda :)
That really means a lot. Thank you ^_^ I think you're starting off in the right direction. Best advice I can give is something that I still follow and intend to continue following until I'm too old to pick up a camera; Take a camera with you wherever you go and look for the stories in the little moments others often neglect. Keep it simple and have fun!
Quintavius, your photos have truly inspired me. Definitely challenging me to improve on my fear of engaging. Love to get your perspective and advice! Love your channel, continue to do you! www.kimchistudio.com @ontheroll_jikim
Great video...my comfort lens is my 45mm or 35mm lens...I am working my way down to the 28mm...would love to hear your thoughts on my work...@whatwouldteosay_photography on IG....I love photography and respect those that love the genre as well. Blessings
Amazing work you do and I can tell this channel is going to be big soon...however, street portraiture is not exactly street photography per se. I’d say once the photo is staged, it should not be labeled as street photo at all. It’s a portrait in the street. On the other hand, the street consists of many more elements than just people. It is the colors, materials, texture, objects etc, that can be subject of your interest. Shit, even weather...thinking of one of the greatest - Saul Leiter. You may try thinking this way - what if you want to point out something by showing something else and let the viewer think and get it. This element would improve your (and mine) street skill significantly. Be less “obvious”. As a matter of fact, I totally suck at all this :D @jkb.knc
You raise some good points. To that, I say that street photography is simply the act of being present with a camera. were you there? did you see it? Did you make the picture? I don't believe that street portraits are "different" from street photography in the same way that I dont think that "sludge metal" is different from "metal core"- Both are different takes on the same genre. Also, your work is very clean and pleasant to look at!
Thanks for speaking some truth on street photography. So many UA-cam “street photographers” are straight up garbage. Keep up the quality content. Subscribed for sure. If you find yourself in nyc hit me up, would love to shoot around. @dustinroderick
I'll join the conversation. I agree with some of what you say, and it lines up with YOUR take on street photography. For me, people are less interesting than the way they interact with their environment, so for me it is more about the interplay between people, light and shadow. I suspect that according to your definition of street photography my stuff may not count, but that's not to say it isn't still representative of the broader genre. Some of my stuff: instagram.com/urban_obscurite/
Great vid bro, that’ll definitely improve my street photography. I certify love engaging with people i shoot, and actually do sometimes ask them not to look straight at the camera depending on the look i want. @ymp.kw thats my ig handle not sure if going in the right directions and would really appreciate your constructive criticism to my work so far. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed my video! Looks like you've got no shortage of interesting subjects and people to engage with around you! Gave you a follow on IG. Looking forward to seeing more of your work!
Good wake up call for ‘snowflake’ street photographers and you certainly ask some uncomfortable questions of many shooting ‘tame’ on the streets today. Big divide out there these days, between the shadow and light shooters who have a fear of faces, and those from the ‘Bruce Gilden’ school, who go for raw and real, where there is no fear of the face. Humanity has a face and it needs to be seen, even if it is brutal, ugly and dangerous!
well by that logic if the light and shadow photographers aren't doing street photography what do you think about Trent Parke and fan ho are they street photographers
Personally I don’t see street photography as useful unless you want photos of strangers with minimal/little staying power as an image. I’m an avid world traveler and the thing I noticed immediately after developing my 30 rolls of street photography in Italy. 3/36 of the photos on a roll were okay images. Of. NOTHING. Just photos of landmarks & strangers being ordinary. I NEVER look back on these photos and think “Aw I wonder what’s this person’s story”. I don’t care. Photography is fluid. But if you can’t hold on to an image for decades. Chances are those photos are mediocre. They were exceptions but street photography is a genre reserved for Professional Magazine Freelancers. @anthonygenesis
“Point your camera at whatever you’re afraid of.” That’s a mind-blowing sentiment, and I’m gonna have to think about that one a while.
It's something I remind myself of often. Keeps me on my toes, for sure!
You're making good videos, man. Have a great weekend.
I appreciate that, sincerely. Been watching your videos for years! Hope you have a great weekend also!
“Stop trying to take from the world and start making with the world. “ amazing line.
Thank you! Cheers!
This is probably the best video on not only street photography but photography in general I have seen in a long time. Actually its one of the only videos I've seen on photography in a long time. Most of them are really about gear and/or just thinly veiled ads for gear. I dont' really do much street photography but have photographed at a few events with my big ol D800. And you're right. Even with a Leica trying to pretend like you're not taking photos is the wrong move. You're not James Bond. People can tell. You just look like you're doing it for nefarious reasons if you try to hide it. But if you dont' act like you're dong something wrong and instead have total confidence, few notice and even less care that you are taking photos. It seems like a paradox but in many cases it is true that the more overt you are, the more you blend in. In fact if you use a bigger camera at an event like a fair, airshow, festival, ect in a smallish-medium size town/venue and even some larger ones and walk around like you own the place, some people will assume you are being paid to shoot it even if you're not. So they will get out of your way, let you go/stand places they would normally would shoo people out of completely unchallenged, even invite you into said places.. I never lie if asked directly of course. But if someone offers me to stand in a closer/better spot or simply doesn't tell me not too because they think I'm the official photographer and can't even be bothered to ask me if I am, I'm not saying no to that either. Plus people, especially those in costumes, performers, or those with a look they are proud of, will pose for you as soon as the see your camera without you even asking. But on the flip side of that there is still enough people around to get candid shots unnoticed even with a big camera.
Great video and great photos for reference to your points. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but I have a hard time defining street photography as one thing. I think aesthetics light, shapes. Shadows and humans all coming together in photo IS street photography just as much as taking portraits of strangers. I do think it’s important to challenge yourself and engage with humans while on the street as well. I think great photographers can do both tbh
I don't know if you got comments cursing you, but I couldn't add anything to what you said, it was perfect. Man I can't stand any more bad "street" pictures on instagram or on UA-cam channels of people so afraid of even their own shadow. They shoot a street full of people from a far, with nothing in particular going on, just random people walking and call it street photography, just because it envolves a street and some people. It's boring, time consuming and it makes me look bad for speaking the truth. So don't apologize for being honest, they should man up. Great channel man, keep up the good work....!!
I like approaching people to photograph, too. I usually start the conversation with a compliment, like "I love your hair", and then have a short conversation with them before I ask to take their photo. It's way to say I'm interested in you. Most people say yes to a photograph. I often give them my personal street photography "business" card I had printed up with my Flickr account and my email address, then offer to send them a copy of the photo if they email me.
Love that! That's a really great way to stay connected with the communities one makes pictures in. Never know where that could lead!
Almost totally agree with everything. Love the way you present it, and I’m hoping you’ll start posting here again.
My two cents: too often what's flogged as street photography is more invasion of privacy on the cusp of stalking....as you say, creepy.
Q, I've subscribed to your channel because I appreciate your style and substance. I believe sincerely that I can learn something from you through your documented photography experiences. That said, in this video you speak like someone who knows what fear is. What abuse is. What it means to be depressed or mentally challenged for any number of reasons. You know that there are all manner of people trying to find their voice, their way, their strength. Some of those folks may have found themselves through the medium of photography. Now, I'm all about being real, but there are times when we have to be temperate in how we articulate our point. You seem like 'good people'. And I believe that you can help 'good people'. Just remember how long it took you to find your way from a bad place. And respect their fragility while they look for the same exit. I love your work Brother. I'm a 'demanding' enthusiast not a pro. But in the counseling/Behavioural Health world -- yeah...
I absolutely appreciate your insight and I'm glad you enjoy my work! Will definitely stay mindful!
I am binge watching your videos man. Please keep posting :)
I needed this it’s helped my photography so much. Point your camera at whatever your afraid of. And approach people
Awesome images and great advice! Thanks for the inspiration!
So much gold here. Thank you Oliver!
This is exactly what I needed to hear right now. I'm just getting started shooting on my dad's Leica M7 and street photography is something I'm heavily gravitating towards. The stuff you are preaching in this video is invaluable and I appreciate big time. All the best and please keep doing you bruh. Cheers, Drew
This is the best advice... You get so close to people and your photographs don't look posed. They don't look like candid photographs, because the people in your photographs, seem so relaxed or more like willing participants. Great work and keep bringing that advise!💡🎥🎬👏🏽🔥🎤POWERZ!
I just found your channel; I found it by looking for gear reviews (of course) but your non-gear thoughts are great. I'm not a street photographer but everything you say here is relevant to all types of photography.
The quote might be Bruce Davidson's: "All my photographs are portraits-self-portraits, because you can’t photograph someone without reflecting/echoing, like a bat sending out a signal that comes back to you. You get not only a picture of who you’re photographing, but you get a picture of yourself at the same time.” But the same sentiment's been expressed by lots of people.
Amazing video, great advice and... you are right about being lazy, scared, shy and not having the ability to get close to people and interact with them to make a real connection and record real moments. Thanks man, one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time which did not make fall asleep.
Good video Oliver, you make some good points. Best of luck in your photography.
Thank you! Best of luck to you in your endeavors as well!
"You're not close enough" isn't about physical distance. It's often the problem, but it's about the meaning/emotion. You're not close enough to the subject. You're not close enough to the message. You see it, but you're not willing to dive into into it. Being closer isn't just about standing 1mm away from your subject, it's about being a part of your subject to the point you understand it.
100% true that if you are afraid of something you should point your camera at it. I did some helicopter shots for a music video once in Miami. Our pilot was a legend who was a Vietnam Vet. We were chasing down a cigarette boat sideways going extremely low to the water. Normally I would be freaked out beyond belief, but I kept my eye glued to the eyepiece focusing on my composition. When we got done with our run I turned back to my AC. He had a look of abject terror on his face, holding on for dear life. Focusing on the shot helped calm me down and took away the fear.
I needed this. Stop living in fear.
Great points man. I too share your concern about this "fishing" trend being passed off as street photography (especially in black and white photography). Each time I see an image with a sliver of light or 98% negative space, etc. I can't help but to think of Winogrand's complaint (even back then) that these kinds of images are illustrations and not photographs. The subject matter of the image isn't the human, it's the aesthetic in and of itself, teaching us nothing about what it means to be human. I also feel like this trend is an incredible disservice to the work of Fan Ho. Really admire your work on Instagram btw. Here's my handle @davebabayev, mostly D.C. streets as of late.
Agreed! I think there is merit in anyones work whos willing to get out there and just do it but some stuff is simply just a crutch and stops people from moving forward and progressing with their work, in my opinion. Checked out your IG btw and I dig your shots! Keep it up!
@@quintaviusoliver8149 For sure. Cheers man, thanks!
I agree.... BUT your talking mainly about streets portraits (more or less). Is a streetportrait streetphotography. However, great content - following now.
Great video. Your work is fire
Hey Q. I love your "5 reasons You suck...". Very interesting tips ora sugestions. 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Lot of wise vision in your videos bro. You are a great photographer and a great man. Looking forward to more content.
Some great points man 👌🏽
🙌🙌🙌 I am not a street photographer- I am definitely going to use this advice 💯 percent! The photos you just displayed on here are 🔥🔥🔥🤟 . Definitely sharing this !
Glad it was helpful! I use these same rules when it comes to working with models as well!
Listen dude, who told you that you can say whats street photography, first off. Secondly why is a zoom lens necessarily lame or lazy or wrong or afraid? Why having a 1 or 100 mp sensor matters? And why cropping sucks? Everybody crops first off but even if they dont its not lame or wrong or whatever you are saying in your video. Also you dont need a big megapixel sensor to crop, you can crop whatever with whatever sensor. Overall in photography there is nothing right or wrong.
You are doing a certain style of street photography. Doesnt mean other styles are bad or suck. This goes also for how the other styles of photography and street photography are made.
By the way you can find my work here:
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And @boareye on Instagram.
No one told me I could or couldn't say anything. It's just my opinion. Take it or leave it. If my video triggered you in some way, then that's something you'll have to address with yourself. I'll keep speaking my mind and making videos the way I see fit.
In other news- I checked out your IG and you've got some good work. Really nice colors and composition. Looking forward to seeing more. Thanks for stopping by!
Good points. I’m starting a project that will be “street” style and I’m keeping these points in mind
Glad this was helpful! good luck!
dude, the ass-kicking was so hard that I surely can't sit for days. Seeing your pictures shows me how hard I suck in street photography.
"Hi . . . my name is Jim and I suck at street photography . . ."
Great video man, I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel. I'm in Atlanta too! My IG is @jameshemauer - been shooting film all my life but just started taking it a little more seriously.
"Hi Jim!" glad you enjoyed this video. Checked out your IG and you're definitely on the right track and you've got good taste in cars haha. Hope to see more of your work soon!
Inspiring talk and great pictures! Thanks for sharing.
"I know what I like and I know what I don't like..." Keeping it real and speaking truth. Too much of today's visual pablum for the sheeple masses is TBH, lazy photography (and video for that matter) - Like you, I know what I like and it's not the current crop of most of the photographers today. Anyone can take a technically proficient image, but if it doesn't have the passion, the soul of the captured moment by the photographer, it's no worth looking at IMO. BI've been a photojournalist, documentary and street photographer full time since the late'80's, rubbed elbows with some petty prestigious photographers and still to this day I still worry that my work isn't good enough. Attending Eddie Adams Workshop in 1992 raised the bar of expectations I have with my work and the work of others. I will say I discovered your channel a couple of days ago, and your work is some of the finest I've seen lately and I don't hand out that kind of praise to just anyone. Your stepping back from (Anti) Social Media and its illusion is a major step in the right direction. I come from the days of reaching out one to one with physical printed pieces, phone calls, and at the very least a properly composed introductory email. That's my current plan while using the one social media account I still have (IG) to drive people to my website for a more proper engagement. Look at the work of Alex Webb and William Albert Allard... Their use of color still influences my work to this day and I never considered myself a color shooter until seeing their work.
IG Handle: @cliffetzelphoto
Off of my soap box now...
Enjoyed the video! Seems like learning different styles photography is a never ending process. Looking to apply some of these tips to help my street photography suck less. Thanks 😊
I needed to hear this and get the kick up the ass again. A livelong pursuit.
Always glad to inspire!
great content man !!
I except what you say some of these are me I no what I need to do I need to get closer and I need to not be scared and your work is really cool
Good video and amazing portraits!! The most real ones I've ever seen. I love your black and white, on the contrary, I hate mine haha. The "avoid the creepy telephoto-photographer style" is a must but maybe these people use telephoto lenses because they're looking for that look in their pictures. I mean, the compression and that stuff. You give good advices but most of the displayed photos weren't street photos, but portraits and posed photos. Street photography has just a few restrictions but one of them is the picture must be candid, unposed. You can't as photographer interfere in the picture and set it up. The "sit here, look here, you guys stand there..." is a no-no in street photography. If you click on my username you can watch my videos and some street photos. I also post on Instagram (tengu_ig) but the pictures I post there are my worst ones before I delete them.
Thanks for your input and I'm glad you enjoy my work! I'll agree that being in the moment and being able to make pictures candidly is an important element in street photography but I don't think that it's a hard rule- especially if I'm not asking anyone to change anything about themselves but rather to allow me to get closer and explore whatever it is that drew me to them in the first place. I think the only real rule of street photography is "pics or it didn't happen." That is to say; Were you there? Did you make the picture of whatever it is that you saw? Does it tell a story? From what I'm seeing in your work, you've got that down! Great stuff!
This was interesting! Thanks for sharing. I had a good laugh when an artist friend, a painter, dismissed photography as an art form, saying it should be banned for several years. But just think how that might improve photography.
That’s certainly an interesting thought. I happen to remember a time when people didn’t have social media and photography as an art form was in many ways more respected but the innovation that’s happened with photography in the last decade has created completely new ways of looking at and creating art!
Good stuff!
You speak the truth about street photography composition, I will have to step up my game and learn to point my camera at what I’m afraid of...great advice...and so true with those photographers who shoot with mega zoom lenses....wtf....
Love thiss!!!
How's it going, Q?.. I enjoyed the video, i've been following you off and on for several years now. I too love your work. I see you're not on flickr anymore.. That's pretty much the only place where I post regularly nowadays. Anyway, I'm in the ATL area, and I shoot mostly film. Among my favorite bodies are my Leica M4, and my Nikon F3.. Do you do any group photo walks in town. My favorite place to go is the beltline, been shooting there for years. I wish you continued success, bro!
i'll get through all your vids - eventually! Great vid!
Tips been truly helpful. I shoot a lot with 50mm. I struggle a lot with getting close or asking people for their photos to be taken. Social anxiety sucks lol. I’m Fairly new to shooting film. Will you in the future make a video discussing zone focusing or indoor portraits using film?
I feel the socially awkward part. I'm that way if I don't have a camera in my hand but it all comes with practice. I think a video on indoor portraits is a great idea! As for Zone focusing, I've got a bit of that in my next video set to drop this evening!
Your stuff is good but a lot of your “street work” is more documentary since they’re not candid. Candid is a huge part of street photography wouldn’t you say? Also street is more than taking pictures of people. @leicajockey
Thanks! I agree 100% that street photography is MUCH more than making pictures of people but I don't believe that pictures must be candid in that the subject must be unaware. I just believe in "pics or it didn't happen" Also, I think you've got some pretty spectacular work on your page and the way you see light is top notch!
@@quintaviusoliver8149 I kinda have to agree here on the candidness. I don't do street portraits and I rarely engage with people - well, sometimes sure. This doesn't mean that the subjects have to be unaware. Its just that, you know, I gets to do what I gets to do, and they gets to do what they gets to do. Other than that, totally agree with the points made in the video. I like your stuff too, its brilliant. Really enjoyed the Cuba set, having been shooting there myself. www.flickr.com/photos/jupaau/ Anyway, you just got yourself a subscriber.
@@quintaviusoliver8149 Oh, and I´m not into labels at all. Who really gives a sh1t what is "street photography" and what is not. Your stuff is just that, your stuff.
What a great video! Cool work. But maybe you are talking more about street portraits, than candid street photography as a genre? But anyway - love your style and way of thinking.
Thanks and good point! I think of street photography as an all encompassing genre- if one sees something interesting or something cool happens, make a picture!
100% agree with every word.
the long zoom lens (and vlogs) are definitely strange - though what is your max focal length prime that you are willing to go for or have used? Or nothing above 50mm?
feel like the general idea from another channel talking about telephoto is to use it's benefit of compression to create a unique image that a regular wide can not.
going out to do night flash street photography - no more relying on high ISO - gotta get over that fear real fast to do that one haha
Good points, great pictures - subscribed ;)
bro I bought the 35 cron because of you and just.. thank you
Look at Saul Leiter he used a long lens for his street photography, (typically a 90mm) Was very criticised for it and for using colour ("serious" street photographers only used b&w at that time). I feel there's not one only orthodox way of doing street photography, there are many. But I get what you say about shooting people at a long distance, and how overcoming certain fears can make you progress as a photographer .
I think Saul's work is spectacular and it takes a special type of person to really see the way that he did!
Really love your way of making pictures and the end result. Agree that these 5 point will make you improve your streetphotography. I don't like too much this trend of trying to define what it is really streetphotography and which is the way to shot it. I agree to rather have a 35 mm or 28mm than longer lenses. In my case I don't mind if the pictures are candid or if you have approached the persons or the scene, I enjoy both situations and in the end is showing the times we are living or universal feelings. Funny you mentioned shooting peoples backs...I did a video just to explain that you should avoid these pictures and one I did as a bad example ended up being a picture I liked🤭. As any other craft, photography, in this case street, we need to go through a process of learning, experiencing situation and finding your place. It is important to enjoy the process, some people will not go their first day to the street and take the kind of picture that it is in your face...maybe they will start with a back, but probably after taking several hundred of them they will become bored, and will start confronting their fears... For many years I have focused my joy in music and photography in the end result and was getting a bit frustrated. In the past years I am more oriented in enjoying the process and be very present in the moment, I am not thinking too much in the end result and it has made a big difference. Much more joy and some very nice end result I could have never imagine. I have stopped putting my self limits stabilised by what other think or expect, and more focus what I want and enjoy. Keep the good work, you have earned a new subscriber. I really enjoy your insights keep posting them!!!
bro I fuck with this heavy I really appreciate it
I like what you had to say. I definitely create crappy street photography. What lens do you use in your street photography?
Great vid! Thank you!
Q ... I’m a big fan of your channel and your work. As far as shooting with a telephoto lens goes Saul Leiter comes to mind. He shot shot with a long lens. I don’t know if he looked creepy or not but who cares. There are no rules in art.
As for me I don’t photograph people here is my Instagram @theofficialocon
Even though our work is very different I have a tremendous appreciation for what you do.
Love your attitude... great insights... just curious... are you a fan of John Free? He also has a great approach to street photography...
Excelente absolutamente excelente
I just found your channel man. I love what you're putting out there, your work is amazing. I'm in Atlanta too and I'm just getting started but I love seeing the amazing work people have been able to make in it despite it not being the most popular place for street photography. Keep it up man, you've got a new fan.
Awesome! Thank you! Maybe we'll run into each other out there in the streets. Good luck on your photographic journey!
I have 12+ reasons why I suck at streetphotography. It's a daily battle. One day I hope to make a decent photo 🤞🏾. Love the mini lectures and reviews. Subscribed. Be safe and keep those moments real. @str33t.shinobi
Ok! I see you! You've got a lot of life and color in your work. I dig it!
POWERZ💡🎥🎬🎤👏🏽
What would you say to those people who say if you approach a person and talk to them it’s no longer street photography? Maybe classical street photography is either creepy or confrontational. What are you thoughts?
One, as a street/doc photographer with 23 years behind me, and boy am I sick of all these people who think street is this new thing, and who think since they’ve been at it for a year they have some mastery of the genre. I could be wrong, but you don’t seem to be in that category. Two, I’m guessing you live in Atlanta. I don’t think people know how different shooting street is from town to town. I grew up in the south but got as far away as I could as soon as I could. I’ve always wanted to shoot in areas like Bankhead and five points but I would think one needs an in to those areas as the south tends to be territorial. I’m just being honest, and correct me if you disagree, but predominantly working class areas that are predominantly black can be(and with good reason) hostile towards outsiders as I’m guessing the assumption is that they will be taken advantage of or misrepresented or both. I know my intentions are decent but to convey that to a stranger can be difficult. I know how I would handle this, but it would take a lot of time usually. Are you acclimated to any of those areas of Atlanta? I’m looking for a quick in to get some sample shots I could use to acquire funding for a long term project. The project is an attempt to illustrate American apartheid. I would try to visit areas where the “minority “ population is actually the majority but they are still hugely underrepresented in local government, where there is voter suppression, where it’s still heavily segregated and basically still Jim fucking crow bullshit. So, yeah, a big project that would take a lot of time effort and coin with no way to break even. Cause that’s how I stay skinny.
Well to put it plainly, I’ve been all over the world and photographed in many different communities. You’re right in saying that no two places are the same but people, regardless of race, demographic, occupation, or any other factors are largely the same. Respect is respect no matter where you go. London, New Delhi, Atlanta, New York, Compton… people just want to know you’re genuine. Walk up to people and just ask how their day is going. It’s never mattered for me where I am and I’ve never needed an in to walk through any hood. That’s all on your own confidence. Everywhere I go, I act like I belong there and I approach everyone with respect. Never had to give it any more thought than that. To me, if you need an in, the best way is to just create your own by talking with any and everyone you see.
The streets are empty where I'm from ☹☹☹ pandemic is still hitting hard on us. Best wishes and keep shooting 👺👍🏽
When you're shooting with a rangefinder camera, do you zone focus? If so, wondering if there is a standard aperture that you tend to use or whether it's more fluid. Thanks!
Some truly amazing street portraits there. May I ask did you made these primarly by a) approaching the person, lifting the camera, taking the picture/s and then having a chat - or b) did you first ask?
Edit: As you asked, feel free to get inspired or hate at instagram.com/klotsi/. I definitely have strong roots in street / documentary / journalism / news photography but no place in life for that right now, so applying a lot of that feeling-capture to more artistic approach. I also shoot a lot other things as well, but thats another story.
You've definitely got a dreamy ethereal feel to your pictures! Good stuff!
To answer your question, I generally just ask if I can make a picture first and that gets people to let their guard down.
Oh, my website and IG is “thedaylightfalls”. Would love to hear your comments. Some good, some suck.
I do suck. And this was helpful. Probably still suck. But suck less. Awesome video bro 🔥
Haha! Baby steps to success bro! Pics or it didn't happen!
All the truth 😌
For better or worse I take my photography seriously. I dont do street bc I dont like people in my photos. I feel a huge weight of doing the subject justice. Tough one. Also i hate spray and pray-you cant come from film and think that way.
Your videos have popped up on my UA-cam feed on my business page but I wanted to comment from my personal page. I totally agree that there is a lot of content out there misguided under the "Street Photography" genre. I try not to be a purist or Leica snob but my skin crawls when I see people posting content from the street from long glass standing 50-100 yards away taking the same shot that I am trying to get by manipulating the scene using my zoom /telephoto (feet), ducking up and down, kneeling and squatting to get the same shot. The vibrations and energy of the capture is felt in being immersed and saturated in the MOMENT. Good job my brother. @33rd_eye_photography
Robert Capa "If your pictures aren’t good enough, you aren’t close enough”
Yes! Thanks!
To shoot people you have to know people, you clearly relate and care about your subjects.
I absolutely love your content. Your nude photography is my favorite. I really enjoy your street photography and portrait work as well. I reference your work a lot in my classes. Your photographs inspire me. My photos are NOTHING compared to your work but I’d love to hear your feedback and suggestions. @photography_gal90
Amanda :)
That really means a lot. Thank you ^_^ I think you're starting off in the right direction. Best advice I can give is something that I still follow and intend to continue following until I'm too old to pick up a camera; Take a camera with you wherever you go and look for the stories in the little moments others often neglect. Keep it simple and have fun!
Great video, I probably do suck! I think I’m guilty of all of this. Except the long lens one, that’s creepy. @cyclopsrock
isn't the definition of street photography subjective?
Quintavius, your photos have truly inspired me. Definitely challenging me to improve on my fear of engaging. Love to get your perspective and advice! Love your channel, continue to do you!
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@ontheroll_jikim
Great video...my comfort lens is my 45mm or 35mm lens...I am working my way down to the 28mm...would love to hear your thoughts on my work...@whatwouldteosay_photography on IG....I love photography and respect those that love the genre as well. Blessings
Amazing work you do and I can tell this channel is going to be big soon...however, street portraiture is not exactly street photography per se. I’d say once the photo is staged, it should not be labeled as street photo at all. It’s a portrait in the street. On the other hand, the street consists of many more elements than just people. It is the colors, materials, texture, objects etc, that can be subject of your interest. Shit, even weather...thinking of one of the greatest - Saul Leiter.
You may try thinking this way - what if you want to point out something by showing something else and let the viewer think and get it. This element would improve your (and mine) street skill significantly. Be less “obvious”.
As a matter of fact, I totally suck at all this :D
@jkb.knc
You raise some good points. To that, I say that street photography is simply the act of being present with a camera. were you there? did you see it? Did you make the picture? I don't believe that street portraits are "different" from street photography in the same way that I dont think that "sludge metal" is different from "metal core"- Both are different takes on the same genre. Also, your work is very clean and pleasant to look at!
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Thanks for speaking some truth on street photography. So many UA-cam “street photographers” are straight up garbage. Keep up the quality content. Subscribed for sure. If you find yourself in nyc hit me up, would love to shoot around.
@dustinroderick
My thoughts exactly! @caught_in_my_eye
I see you're putting that Monochrom to work! Great stuff!
Quintavius Oliver Thanks, I’m trying haha.
I'll join the conversation. I agree with some of what you say, and it lines up with YOUR take on street photography. For me, people are less interesting than the way they interact with their environment, so for me it is more about the interplay between people, light and shadow. I suspect that according to your definition of street photography my stuff may not count, but that's not to say it isn't still representative of the broader genre. Some of my stuff: instagram.com/urban_obscurite/
Why so hostile?
Really enjoyed the video and I'm a new subscriber to the channel. I love that you are open to dialogue. Would love to chat sometime! @tobinchad
Great vid bro, that’ll definitely improve my street photography. I certify love engaging with people i shoot, and actually do sometimes ask them not to look straight at the camera depending on the look i want. @ymp.kw thats my ig handle not sure if going in the right directions and would really appreciate your constructive criticism to my work so far.
Thanks
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Glad you enjoyed my video! Looks like you've got no shortage of interesting subjects and people to engage with around you! Gave you a follow on IG. Looking forward to seeing more of your work!
Thank you very much sir much appreciated!
great video man. @leica_experience swing by let me know what you think. 🤙🏼
Good wake up call for ‘snowflake’ street photographers and you certainly ask some uncomfortable questions of many shooting ‘tame’ on the streets today. Big divide out there these days, between the shadow and light shooters who have a fear of faces, and those from the ‘Bruce Gilden’ school, who go for raw and real, where there is no fear of the face. Humanity has a face and it needs to be seen, even if it is brutal, ugly and dangerous!
Agreed! Thanks for stopping by!
well by that logic if the light and shadow photographers aren't doing street photography what do you think about Trent Parke and fan ho
are they street photographers
Personally I don’t see street photography as useful unless you want photos of strangers with minimal/little staying power as an image. I’m an avid world traveler and the thing I noticed immediately after developing my 30 rolls of street photography in Italy.
3/36 of the photos on a roll were okay images. Of. NOTHING.
Just photos of landmarks & strangers being ordinary. I NEVER look back on these photos and think “Aw I wonder what’s this person’s story”. I don’t care. Photography is fluid. But if you can’t hold on to an image for decades. Chances are those photos are mediocre.
They were exceptions but street photography is a genre reserved for Professional Magazine Freelancers.
@anthonygenesis