Garmin Edge 830 vs Wahoo Bolt V2: Long term head to head comparison.
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Comparing the pros and cons of the Garmin Edge 830 vs the Wahoo Bolt V2 while looking at important features like navigation, sensor pairing, data display, and set-up.
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One reason i swap from Wahoo to garmin is the accident detection. When i ride alone and had a fall, it detect a fall and can call my close one. THis is one useful feature that i love about garmin other than the training plans. If wahoo have such detection, i would jump back to wahoo.
Wahoo has a crash detection too but you must have an ANGi sensor
Thank you for a great comparison. I have also played around with both 1030 plus and a Bolt V2. Most people will say apple to oranges, but I say both are designed for the same purpose. I absolutely agree that the Garmin is better for navigation, but with a small caveat - I love how the Wahoo adds the navigation cue to the existing screen keeping all the fields visible, while the Garmin changes the screen and you have to touch it in order to make it go away, if you can't wait for the turn and that happens a lot. Another thing that I like about the Wahoo, that I have not heard anyone mentioning, is that the device registers any number of the "page" button presses without waiting for the page to change, so if you know that the page you want to see is 3 pages away, you just triple-click it. With the Garmin, you have to wait for each screen to show (and it is slower) in order to swipe again. I find it that it is much easier to flip though the pages this way. I think this is an important aspect of the general use experience. For me, the Garmin is a better device as a whole, but my main reason to switch to the Wahoo is absolutely the screen. I can actually see what I want / need to see much better on that small display due to the quality of the screen and the use of colors. I must say, though, that the 830 has a much better screen than the 1030 plus. I think all those talks about the ease of set up are petty and even not true. Other than the fact that the Garmin is very easy to set up, set up is done once and silly to consider it as a factor of which computer to buy.
Great additions! I did notice the ability to click through screens on the Wahoo, I also noticed you can never go back to a previous screen on the Wahoo, you have to press the page button and go forward through all of the pages until you get back to the one you want, but you can go back to a previous page on the Garmin. I do agree that the unobtrusive navigation prompts are very helpful on the Wahoo, I wish Garmin would adopt that too. All good things to consider. Thanks for your thoughts!
Navigation can be customized on Garmin , display as text or as Map, If you select Text then navigation prompts will happen in the current screen (without actually show the map) , if this is what you are referring to Wahoo. I agree with better display and chevrons on Wahoo
Also I would mention another functionality , sharp bend turn notification on Garmin that is working independent from route
Wahoo ALWAYS works! Navigation is spot on, sensors connect flawlessly .No problem you like Garmin better, but Wahoo should be any cyclists favorite😊
I think I will buy the Wahoo Elemnt Roam since it is an upgrade of the Bolt. Like you, I will likely also get the Garmin. I do not yet have power pedals, so that is data I am not yet tracking ($750+ just to buy a pair of pedals). (I am a casual rider and do not compete (I am 64 yrs this year), but just like to track data since it is fun and keeps me engaged in the whole bicycling process. This was a helpful review. Thanks!
Even as a casual rider, I love moving to a solid - left only crank based power meter for under $350 US (stages).
Nice review, thanks but I feel its missing a whole section on the maps. Wahoo might be simpler for day to day use and good on-road but trail maps for off road are severely lacking. Only way you're navigating an unfamiliar MTB trail is by pre-loading a route. With the Garmin and Trailforks pre-loaded you have a pretty good base layer without needing a route.
I'd also be curious to see how well the zoom in/out works on an 830. The Bolt makes this easy.
Good point, I ride 90% road and 10% off road, so I didn't focus on trail forks much, but you are correct, 830 with the trail forks was much much better than the Wahoo off road.
Zoom in and out is pretty easy on the 830 too, maybe a "touch" harder than the Wahoo.
This video helped me to solidify my buying decision. Coming from Garmin edge 130 plus and the edge 530 suddenly stopped working. Navigation was an issue for me. I will put in the address or meetup point and that did a poor job with route recalculation where I end up lost. Planned routes are decent as you have mentioned. My friends say the Wahoo does a better job navigating but according to your video here it is not the case. Garmin does a colorful graphic where you can see your heart rate zones colors and power colors just like Zwift. That could do the same job as the Wahoo light indicators. I find crash detection , and feed detection and alarm 🚨 detection useful on the edge unit not available on the Wahoo. Feed detection is base in heart rate, ergo meter and Garmin calculates when to fuel with water 💧 or calories for the ride which is helpful for races. It has steep curve detection warning ⚠️that helps me on new terrain or races to adjust my speed ahead of time. Staying with team Garmin here.
13:20. On the Garmin you also have to save a ride as a course, before you can select and ride / navigate it. You must have saved the ride as a course before, otherwise it wouldn’t show up under “saved courses”.
Very good comparison! Thank you for real experience feedback, it's a very difficult choice but i think i will go for Wahoo because of the more friendly system with the app
What app?
@@krazyeone Wahoo Companion App
I think the visibility/clarity of the screen in bright light (or changing light) is way better on Wahoo. I.e. it can't be overstated how much better. I got Edge 830 after using Wahoo for a long time and I cannot get used to how bad the screen is. I literally can't see much on the map (navigation screen) when riding in the forest or bright daylight.
Hmm, I haven't had that issue. Try checking your screen settings, especially the auto brightness and backlight settings. Hopefully that will help!
@@utahcanyoncycling screen is on full blast for mtb. I will revisit the settings just to be sure, but when you're riding in the forest or in and out of trees, auto-brightness is too slow to change. I think the issue is the type of display. Wahoo's monochromatic-ish display (and maybe mat screen finish?) work very well. I do admit though that I mostly care about display when I'm on the navigation screen, and garmin navigation+maps is very fancy and great at home, but once the handlebars start shaking, light starts changing, and you're going downhill on an mtb, there is no way you can glance at it in split second and see which way to go at an upcoming fork in the trail. Wahoo with its chevrons, big arrow for your position, and visible display works much better. Tbf, on a road bike, I don't care which device I use, both are good enough.
@@utahcanyoncyclingIt isn't a matter of screen settings. The Wahoo displays are a completely different technology: transflective TFT. The difference is that while the Garmin has to put on the backlight full blast to compete with the sun, the Wahoo displays have the backlight *turned off* because it just reflects the energy of the sun.
I'm just using my previous cell phone I upgraded with a new one. Miles ahead of all those bike computers. Battery life is about 4 hours with full GPS and screen ON. For longer rides I just strap a small power bank to handlebars. Been looking at bike computers for years but still they look like they stuck in a stone age compared even to the cheapest smartphone.
Phones work great for short rides, but you risk breaking a $1000+ phone in a crash vs a $300 bike computer which likely won't break or go flying into the road. For me a phone, even with a battery pack, just doesn't last long enough. I've done rides over 10 hours and my phone dies well before my Garmin/Wahoo. A smartphone is a great alternative, but maybe not a replacement.
The computers I'm sure have much better visible screens in the sun. Smartphone is also a solution even often cheaper than bolt or 530. I use my smartphone but with audio navigation/notifications and ordinary cheap computer with ant+ bt sensors.
One of the reasons I bought the Garmin was for navigation on cycle tours but it doesn’t re-route if you go off track to look at something interesting for example. I then have to use my smartphone to get me back on track. Annoying and frustrating really
in the process of switching from wahoo to garmin devices just purely based on how nice garmins eco system is for getting ALL different types of workouts all in one place. trail runs, hikes, runs, hitt workouts lifting etc.... just overall better than wahoo. trying to decide between the 830 and 1030.
Unless you need the bigger screen and font size, I'd go for the 830! Or you could spring for the new 1040 which has some new features that the 830 doesn't have.
I am still using my Garmin Edge 500. I am a club rider and have no need for maps, or power. I want to start the ride and finish safely without distractions. I would like to upgrade but damn it seems that my requirements just don't add up.
You can configure both the Garmin and the Wahoo so that they show as many or as few data fields as you want. You can turn off the map screen and the power data field if you are only focused on the basics.
wahoo is so much better.. simple to use it is like android vs iOS..
Don't insult wahoo by comparing it to apple trash 😂
Excelente video
Wrong about the use of color to show heart rate zones. The Garmin does do this. You just need to add one of the "Graphical" screens.
The Garmin graph is really not the same as a the Wahoo color field. It sort of works, but it's not as good for glanceability.
Thank you for the video. Can wahoo navigation also be used for walking? I would also like to use it for trekking as well as mountain biking
Interesting question. I don’t think either computer has base maps comprehensive enough for trekking
Best video thank you
Best review/Versus that I have seen on UA-cam in General so 👍🏻 for this. I had Wahoo Roam and Bolt V1. Few points, with 1040 they had implement more granular colors for the climb pro, better acuracy (way better than 830) and from what I have understand little bit better logic behind off course navigation (did not manage to test this one) . What you did not mention is that with Wahoo , there is no cloud backup for the setup , meaning if you wipe your device, or if you buy new model, to have pages and sensors migrated , also with Wahoo you have only one direction for swiping pages, also there is no "lap by position" , also there are some bugs pending from more that one year. Garmin have the bug with displaying % field with big delay. Workouts are better displayed and easy to follow on Wahoo, but the lack their own ecosystem. Also I remember that autopause is annoying on wahoo. I dont know if on wahoo varia is also pairing light or just the radar
You can try another video, to have both devices and follow one route, also try to deviate from the course ans see what is happening
Great additional details! For the Varia paired to the Wahoo, it is only a radar connection, not a light connection so you have no control over the light, but you will see approaching cars with the radar.
@@utahcanyoncycling hmmm On Garmin computers , Varia and light are creating a network , when a car approach you are notified on your computer display but in the same time light pattern is changing in order to make the driver more aware .If you pair with Wahoo, then you lose this functionality as I understand there is no connection/logic between radar and the light
Yes, that's correct, you also can't turn off the light, adjust flash patterns, or set it to radar only (no light) from the Wahoo. You can do that from the Garmin with the light network. The Wahoo will pair with the Varia, but it won't unlock any of the extra functionality beyond the basic radar function.
@@utahcanyoncycling clear , what I am trying to say is that many people don't know that radar pairing , not means only the displaying the Radar on the device, and the dots , but if you have one car behind , radar is alerting that car by changing the light pattern , and for me this is the greatest functionality .
I am curious with new radars that are released (Bryton and Magene) if they will work as it should work with Wahoo
Nice video, thanks :)
I find these differences 1) AUTO-STOP The Garmin stops when you stop, unlike the Wahoo which takes about 3 secs after you stop. This messes with ave speed 2) HR DROP OUTS Wahoo, will drop your Wahoo heart rate monitor if you go into inside a café for a pit-stop. No way to re-connect mid-ride (Polar H10 not dropped) 3) Unlike Garmin the top metric e.g. 'speed' is huge with all others a bit small if more than 2. I'd like to see more balance options like Garmin screens allow. 4) The Wahoo screen is clear in all light, no so the Garmin 530.
On the old V1 wahoo u could just swap pages to maps and click routes and select a route that's already loaded on the go,can u not do that on the V2??
Yes, you can still do that. I was referring to the ability to control new routes that hadn’t been previous stored on the device. Sorry for the confusion.
Which model do you recommend for a time trial bike? Thanks!
Assuming you are only using it on a time trial bike, I'd go for the Wahoo. It's colored data fields are more glanceable when you're in the middle of a hard effort.
I need information if it is possible to connect the Wahoo with the Elite stationary trainer and perform trail riding
Potrzebuję informacji czy jest możliwość połączenia Wahoo z trenażerem stacjinarnym Elite i wykonania jazdy po śladzie
As long as your Elite trainer can be controlled with ANT+ FEC then your Wahoo can connect and control the trainer.
Well the Wahoo is a none starter for me. Having to use my phone to access routes that are saved to the device is just dumb, I'm trying to set up a bike GPS for my none tech savy wife. Garmin it is then. Thanks for mentioning this key element
This is not so. Accessing the routes on the device is super easy and I use it frequently. On map screen, press left button, then select route, then find route you want. Easy peasy.
@@rogerthat7628 No, this is not true. From map page, press left button (three dots), then choose select route. Scroll to route you want or choose a saved destination. This process is the same whether a ride is recording or not.
You’re giving the Ed(s)ge to the Wahoo. Or not. 😂
Just got wahoo bolt v2 with trade in program with my old v1,.. the new barfly not stiff enough and wiggle2,. Anyone had same issue?
The Wahoo mount that came in the box was too weak and made pressing the buttons difficult. I haven't tried the barfly version so I'm not sure about that one.
@@utahcanyoncycling the v1 so tough barfly, i dunno why this v2 so weak,. Im thinkin go buy k-edge but soo pricey 😅
I had the Garmin 530, I could not get it to connect to my phone or computer, and it would not save rides. I sent it back, feeling it was defective. I feel like the Garmin has a high learning curve to use. I spent hours trying to figure it out, the buttons suck. I am leaning tward the wahoo for ease of use. But I am still thinking about the Garmin 830. what to do????????????? I only ride a road bicycle ( I have 2 Giant contend AR1s, 11 speed) and I am 57 years old so no racing or training, just riding for exercise and fun.
I have really liked my 830, most of those connection bugs you mentioned haven't been an issue for me when paired to my iPhone 11, and I've never lost a ride. The newer edge devices have a unique feature where even if the device crashes (hasn't happened to me yet), it will reboot with all of your ride up to that point saved so you can just press resume and keep going, it won't discard your ride like older devices.
Garmin learning curve is steeper. If you aren't worried about training or racing and just want an easy computer, then I'd go for the Wahoo. The caveat being if you want to use navigation, or fine tune and analyze your metrics a lot then go for the Garmin.
@@utahcanyoncycling thanks, I already purchased the 830, going in head first i guess
8:00 When du you need access your sensors on the road last time?
14:00 kidding
I’ve got both and I prefer wahoo.The whole experience feels snappier,the screen is better less glare on the sunlight.It’s better build quality than Garmin.The navigation is better on wahoo bolt ,it calculates the course faster than garmin seamless connections between app on the phone and the device,making way easier searching for new place,address ect.When you go of course instead of navigating you back garmin want you to do A uturn.Way better with wahoo it navigate you back without hassle whatsoever.The one future I like on garmin climb pro works well.
For me it’s not comparison really wahoo any day.
Interesting, I would not agree that the navigation is better on the Wahoo, but I appreciate your thoughts. At the end of the day everyone should use what they like and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, have fun riding!
I have used both & disagree wahoo navigation is better than Garmin. Personally it doesn’t compare. Each to their own. Pleasant riding 👍
Garmin map integration with Trailforks for mountain biking blows away Wahoo. I need trail names on my rides without loading in a route. Garmin 830/1030 plus wins hands down here. Owned the Bolt and the Roam and sold them both. Garmin Edge 1030 plus for the easy win.
@@boodles07 this.
Hi guys
I do a lot of intervals
Garmin looks bad on the display like there is a lot of glare is it an issue ? In the middle of a ride/intervals ?