I just leave normal wet wipes to dry out 😊. This dehydrates the wipe so it weighs less. Normal wet wipes are usually cheaper, more easy to buy and usually wash better then store bought dehydrated wipes.
I was going to argue, since I thought the dry compressed towels in bulk were cheaper. Then I checked Walmart, and you're definitely correct that wet wipes are cheaper. Having said that, I'm going to stick to the compressed ones anyways. They're still pretty cheap, and have more uses. For example, I don't think I'd want to wipe out my cook pot with a wet wipe.
That hydro flask filter adapter is a great item. Thanks for pointing it out. And the MSR snow peg is another good idea. I have the REI version which I purchased several years ago. It doubled in price a couple years ago, but even at six bucks it's a deal. Doesn't hurt the hand. And it's nice to see there's at least one battery powered pad pump. I try to avoid stuff that's only rechargeable, they have a limited lifespan.
I don’t know how quick the battery will fade in the built in ones but I guess it’s not going to be a problem in the near future 🤷🏼♂️ depends on the quality of the battery. We’ll see. Glad you liked the other items… 🙂
those paper towels are incredible. they take almost NO water and the clean real well. We use them for dishes and for the toilet. best thing ever, no fuss.
I use a bidet, but in low water situations those wipes are great. Also, it's pronounced "ka-nock". The moisture/mold issue is a myth, GearSkeptic did a whole video on it. I still use an electric pump because I'm lazy.
I have it - it's great. Mine weighs in at 303 grams not 295 grams. The website says "Weight: 295.5g±5g (10.42 oz±0.1 oz)" so mine is 2.5 grams over the stated maximum. Not a big deal, but a bit mischievous of them to try and fudge it to be below 300 grams.
Great info as always. Many thanks. I suggest you try the Pad-Pal inflator from Tyler Reeves, less than 10g including valve adapter. Nothing lighter than this other than lungs. Advantage of 20K bank over 2 x10k banks is there is proportionally more usable energy in the one bank compared to that which can be drawn from two banks
Thanks 🙏🏻 and yes I have heard about the pad-pal and it’s super light yes… but not a stand alone product like the Zero, but absolutely worth trying and would be fun making a comparison. Another positive thing about one 20000 👍🏻
The latest versions of the NB have a built-in feature whereby if you depress the button for more than 10 seconds (can inadvertently happen within your pack) they enter a standby mode and can only be reactivated by connecting to a power source (oh dear). I predict it won't be long before many hikers' powerbanks weigh more than their tents, but that's another story... It takes me between 30 and 35 breaths (under 1 minute) to inflate my regular thermarest, which is still going fine after 11 years. The Deuce is just too flimsy for UK use - it's probably great on sandy Californian soils. Your snow stake is a good solution, but I've found that the best is Vargo's Ti Dig-Dig (35g) - highly recommended. I could be tempted by one of your insect machines - there's only so far you can get with headnet and skin repellents. Totally agree with your view of water filters. It's definitely the single greatest weight-saving piece of equipment I adopted. I've settled on the Sawyer Micro (not quite as good as your Squeeze but lighter at 50g, and a step up from the Mini) plus Platypus bottles (the Sawyer bladders keep bursting). I still carry a backup of Chlorine Dioxide tablets (7g for enough to treat 30L) but haven't needed to use them. Always a pleasure to watch your videos Robert - even though our opinions don't always concur on everything!
I can see how that’s an important feature for the NB, but I didn’t know about it 😄thanks 👍🏻 and yeah, I used to inflate my pad using my mouth but oboy is it nice to have this small pumps 🥰 added weight yes, but so nice!! 👌🏻 Purification tablets is a good backup to have… I don’t normally bring it but as a safety measure it’s a good idea! We can’t agree on everything for sure 😄 but glad you like my videos anyways! Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Hi Robert, I bought the Flextail Zero pump for use with my Nemo Tensor. It inflates great but doesn't deflate the pad. I asked Flextail for help but they weren't able to tell me how the deflate function works on Nemo Tensor. Have you had success? Otherwise, I'll stick with the pump sack - it's lighter even though it takes longer. Thanks 😊
You’re right, for that type of valve you need to open the valve completely for the air to escape since the membrane is blocking the air flow the opposite direction! In my opinion there is no need for deflation pads with that kind of valve since it’s super quick to empty in comparison with a wing-lock for example!
@@roberthammenrudh I always struggle to get all the air out and it makes packing the pad into the stuff sac or my pack tricky. I guess I was hoping the Zero pump would fix that issue but it didn't.
@@sharonlivingstone5956 i have the same problem, good for insulation but not so good for deflating. If I find a way I’ll let you know… and vice versa 🙂
Carbo20000 is heavier than NB10000. Carbo10000 is also heavier than NB10000. Prairie Dog design works better than Deuce. Bidet works better than paper.
I meant that if you need more than 10000 2xNB10000 is heavier than one Carbo 20000. Just came out a bit wrong. Regarding bidet I haven’t tried it and are fine with using paper. But a lot of people like the bidet so maybe something for the future.
What are the dry wipes actually made of? At least Sea to Summit’s wet wipes are made from lyocell and will eventually break down if accidentally lost in the environment.
@@roberthammenrudh ok. Should break down okay then. Viscose is made using carbon disulphide, which is bad news for the workers making it. But the final product is pretty much the same as lyocell.
Uh, I think you need to check your math. The Carbo 20000 is just around 2x the weight of a single NB10000. The only appreciable savings is with cost; buying 2 NB10000 cost appreciably more than buying one Carbo 20000.
Thermocell is banned in Finland in all national parks and use anywhere is highly advised against. It's very brutal for all the living life in nature in addition to the mosquitoes. Highly questionable to recommend it...
It was banned long time ago and since then the formula changed a couple of times. Further more the Swedish government is not on the same path as Finland and it is allowed to be used for personal use so 🤷🏼♂️, I will continue to use and recommend it because it works so well in comparison to other alternatives.
I would just like to add that Flextail has a habit of securing funding for their new products through kickstarter, and then scamming said backers by not delivering any rewards to them. I myself has been scammed twice by them. Therefore when watching so many backpacking and gear channels praise their products, I can't do much but wonder why none of you guys have done any research on sketchy manufacturers like Flextail. Love your content apart from that though.
Hi and sorry to hear your bad experience with Flextail, I had no idea this was a problem! Never myself supported any kickstarter campaign yet so not sure how that works… but what do you mean by scamming through kickstarter? Products never sent as promised or what do you mean by them scamming you and other hikers? 😳 Glad you like my content though 😃🙏🏻 despite that!
@@roberthammenrudh Flextail asks for funding through kickstarter with a promise to send each backer a discounted product. Then when receiving said funding, they use it to bring the products to market without sending the backers their products. It happens on every project Flextail has launched. From my experience there's only about 1% of the backers who gets what they paid for. And more often than not, the so-called discounted price isn't that, at all. I would have loved their products myself, if their business model wasn't so shady.
I just leave normal wet wipes to dry out 😊. This dehydrates the wipe so it weighs less. Normal wet wipes are usually cheaper, more easy to buy and usually wash better then store bought dehydrated wipes.
Good tip… but after forgetting the water by the tent a couple of times i just prefer having them wet, but you’re right… you save a bit of weight 👍🏻
I was going to argue, since I thought the dry compressed towels in bulk were cheaper. Then I checked Walmart, and you're definitely correct that wet wipes are cheaper.
Having said that, I'm going to stick to the compressed ones anyways. They're still pretty cheap, and have more uses. For example, I don't think I'd want to wipe out my cook pot with a wet wipe.
. I rehydrate a days worth in a ziploc bag.✌🏼
That hydro flask filter adapter is a great item. Thanks for pointing it out. And the MSR snow peg is another good idea. I have the REI version which I purchased several years ago. It doubled in price a couple years ago, but even at six bucks it's a deal. Doesn't hurt the hand. And it's nice to see there's at least one battery powered pad pump. I try to avoid stuff that's only rechargeable, they have a limited lifespan.
I don’t know how quick the battery will fade in the built in ones but I guess it’s not going to be a problem in the near future 🤷🏼♂️ depends on the quality of the battery. We’ll see. Glad you liked the other items… 🙂
those paper towels are incredible. they take almost NO water and the clean real well. We use them for dishes and for the toilet. best thing ever, no fuss.
Thanks Robert. All very helpful.
I use a bidet, but in low water situations those wipes are great. Also, it's pronounced "ka-nock".
The moisture/mold issue is a myth, GearSkeptic did a whole video on it. I still use an electric pump because I'm lazy.
We are really digging the new Carbo 20000! Great video!
I need it for sure… and thanks 🙏🏻🙂
I have it - it's great. Mine weighs in at 303 grams not 295 grams. The website says "Weight: 295.5g±5g (10.42 oz±0.1 oz)" so mine is 2.5 grams over the stated maximum. Not a big deal, but a bit mischievous of them to try and fudge it to be below 300 grams.
@@thegorn yeah it’s like a magic limit since two NB1000 is 310!
Great info as always. Many thanks. I suggest you try the Pad-Pal inflator from Tyler Reeves, less than 10g including valve adapter. Nothing lighter than this other than lungs. Advantage of 20K bank over 2 x10k banks is there is proportionally more usable energy in the one bank compared to that which can be drawn from two banks
Thanks 🙏🏻 and yes I have heard about the pad-pal and it’s super light yes… but not a stand alone product like the Zero, but absolutely worth trying and would be fun making a comparison.
Another positive thing about one 20000 👍🏻
The latest versions of the NB have a built-in feature whereby if you depress the button for more than 10 seconds (can inadvertently happen within your pack) they enter a standby mode and can only be reactivated by connecting to a power source (oh dear). I predict it won't be long before many hikers' powerbanks weigh more than their tents, but that's another story...
It takes me between 30 and 35 breaths (under 1 minute) to inflate my regular thermarest, which is still going fine after 11 years.
The Deuce is just too flimsy for UK use - it's probably great on sandy Californian soils. Your snow stake is a good solution, but I've found that the best is Vargo's Ti Dig-Dig (35g) - highly recommended.
I could be tempted by one of your insect machines - there's only so far you can get with headnet and skin repellents.
Totally agree with your view of water filters. It's definitely the single greatest weight-saving piece of equipment I adopted. I've settled on the Sawyer Micro (not quite as good as your Squeeze but lighter at 50g, and a step up from the Mini) plus Platypus bottles (the Sawyer bladders keep bursting). I still carry a backup of Chlorine Dioxide tablets (7g for enough to treat 30L) but haven't needed to use them.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos Robert - even though our opinions don't always concur on everything!
I can see how that’s an important feature for the NB, but I didn’t know about it 😄thanks 👍🏻 and yeah, I used to inflate my pad using my mouth but oboy is it nice to have this small pumps 🥰 added weight yes, but so nice!! 👌🏻
Purification tablets is a good backup to have… I don’t normally bring it but as a safety measure it’s a good idea!
We can’t agree on everything for sure 😄 but glad you like my videos anyways! Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
comfort is king.
Hi Robert, I bought the Flextail Zero pump for use with my Nemo Tensor. It inflates great but doesn't deflate the pad. I asked Flextail for help but they weren't able to tell me how the deflate function works on Nemo Tensor. Have you had success? Otherwise, I'll stick with the pump sack - it's lighter even though it takes longer. Thanks 😊
You’re right, for that type of valve you need to open the valve completely for the air to escape since the membrane is blocking the air flow the opposite direction! In my opinion there is no need for deflation pads with that kind of valve since it’s super quick to empty in comparison with a wing-lock for example!
@@roberthammenrudh I always struggle to get all the air out and it makes packing the pad into the stuff sac or my pack tricky. I guess I was hoping the Zero pump would fix that issue but it didn't.
@@sharonlivingstone5956 i have the same problem, good for insulation but not so good for deflating. If I find a way I’ll let you know… and vice versa 🙂
Thanks for the gear info...always great facts on your channel.
A big thanks 🙏🏻
Thank you 😊
Carbo20000 is heavier than NB10000. Carbo10000 is also heavier than NB10000. Prairie Dog design works better than Deuce. Bidet works better than paper.
I meant that if you need more than 10000 2xNB10000 is heavier than one Carbo 20000. Just came out a bit wrong.
Regarding bidet I haven’t tried it and are fine with using paper. But a lot of people like the bidet so maybe something for the future.
I had the Tiny Repel and it didn't work, had to return it.
Sorry to hear, I hope they sent you a new one at no cost?
What are the dry wipes actually made of?
At least Sea to Summit’s wet wipes are made from lyocell and will eventually break down if accidentally lost in the environment.
On the package it says 100% Viscose and 100% biodegradable
@@roberthammenrudh ok. Should break down okay then. Viscose is made using carbon disulphide, which is bad news for the workers making it. But the final product is pretty much the same as lyocell.
Uh, I think you need to check your math. The Carbo 20000 is just around 2x the weight of a single NB10000. The only appreciable savings is with cost; buying 2 NB10000 cost appreciably more than buying one Carbo 20000.
No need to check my math, just my editing… I meant slightly lighter than 2xNB10000 🤷🏼♂️
Thermocell is banned in Finland in all national parks and use anywhere is highly advised against. It's very brutal for all the living life in nature in addition to the mosquitoes.
Highly questionable to recommend it...
It was banned long time ago and since then the formula changed a couple of times. Further more the Swedish government is not on the same path as Finland and it is allowed to be used for personal use so 🤷🏼♂️, I will continue to use and recommend it because it works so well in comparison to other alternatives.
I would just like to add that Flextail has a habit of securing funding for their new products through kickstarter, and then scamming said backers by not delivering any rewards to them. I myself has been scammed twice by them. Therefore when watching so many backpacking and gear channels praise their products, I can't do much but wonder why none of you guys have done any research on sketchy manufacturers like Flextail.
Love your content apart from that though.
Hi and sorry to hear your bad experience with Flextail, I had no idea this was a problem! Never myself supported any kickstarter campaign yet so not sure how that works… but what do you mean by scamming through kickstarter? Products never sent as promised or what do you mean by them scamming you and other hikers? 😳
Glad you like my content though 😃🙏🏻 despite that!
@@roberthammenrudh
Flextail asks for funding through kickstarter with a promise to send each backer a discounted product. Then when receiving said funding, they use it to bring the products to market without sending the backers their products. It happens on every project Flextail has launched. From my experience there's only about 1% of the backers who gets what they paid for. And more often than not, the so-called discounted price isn't that, at all. I would have loved their products myself, if their business model wasn't so shady.