COSMIC HORROR - Terrible Writing Advice
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What do you think games Cosmic horror like dark souls and blood-borne. Also you check out the SCP stuff too because they also use Cosmic horror.
Dude my boss is empty void, uncaring of my existance. Also hundreds of times scientist explained me how foolish I was, so "I know I know nothing" is basic life philosophy. Nothing to fear so far.
Terrible Writing Advice so, basically don’t do what they did in Dark Dungeons.
Hey at 4:17 is that the inkpad app? If so cool
The real horror is the friends we made along the way.
Ahhh that's sounds sweet than life threatening
Now that's a great way to use clichés in a comedic way.
Ayyy that's pretty gay
@bryan diaz varela I am an expert, thank you for noticing me sempai
S-Social interaction?
...
I'l take the nameless horrors.
These cosmic beings are unknowable and beyond our comprehension, so here's a handy chart detailing their names, what they look like, where they come from, what they can do, and even a family tree.
Anadice Brown Wait a minute...
If they were truly unkown they wouldn't have any traits.
@@vladtepes2667 r/whooosh
and a love triangle.
to be fair that wasn't Lovecraft
"Or as I call it, the Not-Necronomicon."
Should have been"Necro-not-micon."
I would smack you, but I don't want your blood on my... Newspaper
I dunno
I was thinking the Notronomicon
Patrick Hessman or the necrononicon
or the NotYoMommasCon
Notmycomiccon
So basically
1) Come up with your own pantheon (distinct from Lovecraft)
2) Don't name them old ones, great old ones, elder ones, etc..
3) Have pantheon be active in the story
4) Be descriptive. Don't be lazy and say "Looking at it would drive you mad!!", or resort to every monster looking like a Shoggoth.
5) Don't copy the Necronomicon
6) Cults should have complex motivations and goals. If they are secretive, it should be properly explained as to how and why they have remained so.
7) Like 6), learn how actual cults work.
8) If your going to blend cosmic horror with fantasy or sci-fi, do it organically. Tone should be consistent.
9) Don't ease the tension by having creatures be too vulnerable.
Please correct me if I missed anything or got something wrong.
Wow a lot of the Alien movies actually do really well on this. Good on them.
Also, don't copy Lovecraft's a-bit-too-much-even-for-his-time levels of racism. Like, Lovecraft didn't even trust people from outside of New England he was so racist.
Abdulla Maseeh well if your making a guide on what not to do then sure
Abdulla Maseeh the new ones
Why a pantheon?, why a cult?, are you telling us to rely on cliches?
“Love craft light. Now with 30% less racism”
But does it affect the taste?
I think it must. Many of his stories are direct allegories for race. The Shadow Over Innsmouth in particular was specifically meant to be a warning about the dangers of race-mixing, and that's one of Lovecraft's most important works.
It always does
@@Dudebox64 based
@Enclave Soldier Well you better not be crossing the streams! Ugh
@@Dudebox64 will were have been warned
That ending line really got me.
“Didja know that around 20 to 30 people a year are killed by ants? Isn’t that an interesting statistic, Cthulhu?”
*50
Now all I can see is a bunch of humans swarming up an eldritch god and biting it until it dies.
Odds increase when the ants are given boats
@sadman Sad and guns on them guns on them boats.
@sadman Sad In your head, in your head they are fighting
A love triangle?
More like *A lovecraft triangle*
I’ll show myself out......
And now someone put "lovecraft" and "triangle" in the same sentence and all of a sudden here comes Espeon with her Pavlovian instincts trying to figure out who is taking about Gravity Falls.
A *love triangle* - a very unstable *craft* indeed
imsosorry
A lovecraft triangle, where all those involved in the love triangle are white people who are disgusted by the idea of anything sexual.
You get right back here. There's an abyss you need to look at...
It is "love craft" after all...the Outer God will love you like some crazy Nyarlathotep daughter...however i am Yog-Sothoth believer. He is so BEAUTIFULL ahahahahaha!
The voices...rats in the walls...the creaming and sounds of pleasure, the taste of darkness...
2:25
“It was a strange, shapeless creature, its colors a mix of pink and orange and brown. Placed randomly around its body were white spikes, clusters of eyes and mouths of various sizes, all of which had sharp white teeth. There didn’t seem to be any limbs. Appendages, perhaps, maybe a tail...was that a head? No, none of the mouths were where they should be.”
This is gold.
dont forget to say its indescribable...
The icing on the cake is the uncertainty. The attempt to ascribe a level of human familiarity to it. Before realizing that such an attempt is pointless
I can actually see this as a description for an eldritch creature. The uncertainty in the description imo works wonders for showing the indescribability of the creature.
"It was a creeping, oozing, shapeless blob of flesh. Pink flesh, brown flesh, black flesh all twisted together, pulling apart and being forced back together. It was never still, it was never quiet, and never stayed in the same shape for long. Jagged broken bones split the flesh as the flesh blob convulsed. All across it's formless body eyes and mouths filled with jagged teeth erupted from festering boils and lesions on the flesh before sinking back down and sealing shut. It gurgled, bled, festered, and pulsated on the chalk sigil. It was a hideous failure. Finally the abomination expired and I was stuck with a hideous pile of flesh no closer to my goal than when I started. I kicked the dead flesh and screamed with rage. Years of study and sacrifice wasted to bring this mishapen **thing** through the portal. No matter I had all the time in the world now, and the Insula had no shortage of people who wouldn't be missed who had been forgotten and cast out. I will find a suitable host for him and he shall reshape the world in our image."
*phone vibrates*
“Oh it’s an email/text/snap.”
*Checks phone*
“Oh no it’s *better* .”
Is it... the Signal?
476 Anno Domini
"Email/text/snap"
Something I don't get
Why does this have so many Likes?
Too be honest, i would pay good money to see Chtulhu getting punched by a Gundam.
You should check out Demonbane. Y'see, in Demonbane, Cthulhu _is_ a Gundam.
@@GrahamChapman Done already. Who the hell do you think i am? Demonbane also has a really catchy theme song.
@@seb24789 Judging by your usage of a certain phrase, Imma think that you're either Kamina himself ooor someone who's really into mecha anime... And, yeah, it does have a catchy theme song... personally prefer Getter Robo Armageddon's 2nd intro, though... nothing gets me pumped up quite like Hironobu Kageyama and his hot-blooded passion...
@@GrahamChapman To be honest it totally can be considering that those are aliens..
It's what I like in fiction, really. Some great unknowable aspect of the universe gets the crap kicked out of it by science. Personally, I'm not a fan of things "beyond our comprehension."
Here's my Cosmic horror story, it's called the Eldritch horror:
It was so indescribable, that everyone went mad and died.
The end
That didn't help at all!
😂😂😂 okay that was funny
Needs more deus ex machina.
The best
Not so stupid
To be fair, the eldricth abominations were pretty killable in the original Lovecraft stories. I mean, thehalf man half- cosmic horror monster guy in "The Dunchwich Horror" was killed by a dog of all things, and the giant, unspeakable monster who'se true form could drive men to insanity... was killed by three university proffesors who were armed with latin books, some elixits and a shotgun.
Oh ffs, Leon S Kennedy had better weapons than them and he could barely take down midget Napoleon.
Those were both half human, it just said the big one resembled his father more. The ones you definitely can't kill in Lovecraft are the Outer Gods, like the father mentioned (Yog Sothoth).
@@thewhispererindarkness9117 touché
They were imperfects, dudes who couldn't taste some Elder God power.
Wilbur Watheley was just begining his transformation, and thus he couldn't become stronger and (ironically) became weaker due to the wonky new phisiology.
And the scientists did their research with the Necronomicon and casted a spell to kill Wilbur's brother.
Okay but we all know that the best weapon against eldritch horrors is a flamethrower. At least in a purely sci fi setting.
You can say this bloody genre is
...out of this world?
😥😥
YEEET
Booooo
I now pray to you pun jesus
Soulfest You activated my T R A P C A R D I'm making rocket to launch you out of this world. We mere humans are not yet prepared for your joke.
I love how you made the one female cultist's robe as little body covering as possible, because that is of course the best way for female cultists to differentiate themselves from the males in their full body cover!
All women with B cups and biggers must show cleavage, it's the law.
That's what videogames taught me
Huh. I thought that was just a guy in weird cult clothes.
cultist ? You mean cthultist
I mean, depending on the cult, that might make sense lore-wise.
I like how everytime JP smiles, the mindflayer face flashes temporarily
Actually, there were a lot of Lovecraft's stories where the monsters were killable. The Dunwich Horror, the Shunned House, etc. Some monsters even had limitations (such as being unable to endure light, etc.) I think it's ridiculous to shit on a story just because the author gives the humans a fighting chance. Remember the Darkness Induced Audience Apathy trope. If all of your stories end with humanity being destroyed or a man going mad and shitting his pants, they're going to get boring to read really fast.
Lovecraft's monsters basically had a sense of scale - the lower end could and often was thwarted by humans, while above a certain level, humans pretty much lost every time.
Yeah, some of the monsters could be beaten, but their mere existence meant that there was something seriously wrong with the universe. Or that we are the ones seriously wrong.
I'd like to see a modern Lovecraftian story where the monsters aren't scaled up by the writer to compensate for modern technology and culture.
Like. Picture deep ones becoming an endangered species because their disregard for humanity allowed us to advance to the point where by the time we WERE a legitimate problem for the deep ones they were powerless to do anything about it. So all they could do is hide away in an ocean that's slowly dying of pollution and overharvesting. Unable to stop their inevitable extinction because acting against humanity in any way would do nothing but hasten their demise due to our impossible technological and numerical advantage. Picture Dagon himself slowly starving to death. The last thing going through his mind being regret for not taking a species of short lived mammals seriously despite the alarming rate they advanced technologically.
Actually fuck it. Someone write a cosmic horror story from the perspective of Deep Ones.
MyVanir Are you stupid? Imagine you encountered a ghost or a zombie, your whole idea of life and death is changed forever. Replace the zombie with any creature whose existence you'd think is impossible and you should get the idea. It's all about the implications.
Think a little harder next time you call someone retarded.
@@mr.9907 MyVanir has an anime pfp, he probably doesn't do a lot of thinking in terms of quality literacy.
Remember tentacles are the only thing your cosmic god is allowed to use to attack the protagonist. We don’t want to be creative now do we?
Edit: also we need a love triangle
Between the protagonist and two of the monsters.
@@feralchangeling97 and one of the monsters definitely needs the tentacles
I got it! The Cosmic Gods will attack the protagonist with triangles! Love triangles!
Between two of the tentacles and a not necronomicon
Also never have our strong protagonist question his existence or his persception of the world, teeter in the brink of madness, consider suicide, panic, fear or remorse in any way. He should just keep killing cultists and cosmic horrors alike like cattle.
Do you like aliens?
Do you like going insane?
Do you like feeling existential dread?
*THEN YOU'LL LOVE COSMIC HORROR*
@@johannageisel5390 Do you want to be the product of that sexy union?
@@merrittanimation7721 Nah, I'm not into mermaids.
I want to kiss the alien, though.
@@johannageisel5390 You mean those 0_o:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirenia
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Honestly, I always prefer to the cultists to the monster they worship.
I'd love a story where the cultists are just completely wrong, and everything they do amounts to nothing.
I'm workin' on it
That's pretty much exactly what happens in The Call of Cthulhu. The cultists spend an unknowingly amount of time trying to make the stars right to summon Great Cthulhu to no avail before LeGrasse and his men show up to take most of them down. Yes, Cthulhu shows up later in the story because of the ship that lands on the piece of land but that was by mistake and lasted no longer than 15 minutes before shutting Cthulhu away again until the stars are right.
Does it count if it's just a deluded enchanted cookbook that introduces itself as "THE GASTRONOMICON"?
PICKULHU FETAGHN!
"Haha we've done it, we've summoned XxdemonxX"
"I am the all powerful XxdemonxX, who has summoned me?"
"I did"
"Have fun with your newly broken foot I'm going back to bed"
"Ouch"
@@TheDweller77 Eh, close, but I'm mean that I want the cult to be genuinely and utterly wrong; their deity isn't real, their rituals did nothing, sacrifices were in vain, etc.
The heros would realize the only threat was the crazy folks in robes all along, nothing paranormal.
Take a moment to appreciate that all fiction concepts come from the human mind.
And it's totally possible that aliens are telepathic.
And if those aliens get anywhere near us they are bombarded by a ocean of cosmic horror concepts and anime.
Just remember that.
Yeah, but they probably have their own weird ideas and kinks. Unless they're programmed to be uncreative or something.
imagine alien kinks
they’d probably fantasize about doing it with humans. it’s probably like depraved for them but they probably think about it
@@lvcrimosv this was the plot of Black Souls 2.
@@lvcrimosv an alien with a hair fetish. It's literally just the alien is obsessed with human hair pics. Imagine.
So we created the Warp?
But.. but... but what about the love triangle between the elder abomination, the beautiful heroin and her bff sidekick who is secretly in love with her?
This becomes a story about 2 enemies brought together by the power of narcotics with that spelling error, so congrats, you got a laugh out of me
"Oh, Mel, you're the best friend ever"
"(Dejected) yep, that's me"
I ship the heroine and the elder abomination
I have JUUUST the right thing for you, Laura!
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You can buy the result as e-book on amazon. ^ ^
This is already an anime.
Just end it with, Cthulhu is beaten by the refreshing taste of mint with a satisfying crunch.
That was a great couple episodes!
And then I Saw it...
No. I caught but the merest glimpse of the Beast. I didn't have the courage to truly see it.
It was so mind numbingly abhorrent I tore my weeping eyes away and screwed them shut. Silently praying to a God I didn't truly believe existed.
I must of looked a pitiful sight, a grown man, curled up a corner of a lightless room; trying not to move or make a sound that would betray my presence.
I could hear it slowly padding across the floor, stalking and skulking; it was keeping a low profile, trying to mask it's presence, like me.
Unlike me; it was not doing this out of fear or self preservation.
No it was not.
The Beast was an ambush predator, a patient hunter of prey.
Now it tasted my terror in the air and was hunting me for sport.
So I hugged myself tighter, sweating profusely.
Hoping I would go unnoticed.
But, but, but; the Breath...
Each breath escaped the Beasts fanged maw as a low, wet, guttural growl; ripe with barely checked aggression; each growl emitting a sickly fugue of moist, rancid, foulness, that stung the nose with its aromatic assault.
Then a preys intuition warned me I had been located.
I tried to steel myself. Looking inward for something inside of me that would instill some defiant bravery into my lethargic muscles.
But I could feel the Beasts gaze washing over my fetal form, bracketing my senses.
A baleful gaze searching my being for any hint of resistance. I could feel those eyes smothering any flickering embers of defiance, gripping my resolve with invisible, icy cold, claws of dread; and squeezing.
But, but, but - I looked!!
My nerve broken, I instinctively looked...
The beast was looking straight at me, those eyes boring into my soul, seeing no sign of retaliation in me, no final act of heroic self defence.
Just a helpless victim waiting for the end.
Then it turned away?!
The Beast...just...turned away?!
Bored with my plight, sataisfied I am intimidated into fealty and on the very precipice of shitting my pants...."
What a Bully!!
I REALLY HATE MY GIRLFRIENDS, HIGHLY PROTECTIVE, CAT.
It's a Territorial Ginger Tom that's Small for a Tiger.
The aptly named 'Buddy' acts like an obsessively protective father.
It's obviously received some sort of training by Master Splinter or Batman. Because it has a sound grasp on Terror Tactics and Deception. Regularly employing Hit and Run Ambushes with impressive martial capabilities.
It seems happily content making my life a constant hell using perpetually occurring acts of psychological oppression and savage physical assaults.
Fuck You 'Buddy'.
Ya Little Ginger Prick!!
How fucking dare you make me work up a sweat like that.
@@mattcolmore8077 wow?!
Sorry? I guess?...
And deepest sympathies, on your perspiration problem.
Hope you get that sorted mate.
No I liked it, sorry the enthusiastic tone didn't carry over text I guess
@@mattcolmore8077 no worries mate. Was only joking myself. Cheers for the feedback, glad you liked it squire.
Dude, that was amazingly impressive writing; and the reveal was just perfect. You really have a gift.
*" We shall use our ancient and terrible magic to summon money and retire easily. "*
If this isn't the most evil idea you've ever heard, I don't know what is.
I think that's what happened to WB and they botched the ritual.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Lol, true.
@brinbrin62 62200 Torah isn't magic manual 0_0
That will cause inflation
@@hobobohemian Evil don't care. It is more a issue when government doing that.
> "Add unapologetic racism"
> "Then argue with people on Twitter about it"
> "Ask PR department about damage control"
> "Ignore PR and double down"
This had me laugh so hard that I startled my roommates and toned my abs.
@Maintenance Renegade I disagree with your one-dimensional summarization of a massive diverse field. Vehemently. That is a cynical and simplistic rendering of a billion-dollar industry that is a lot more sophisticated than just "disconnected propagandists."
I don't disagree that some PR practitioners are horrid in their duties, but I think that the most immoral of them are no worse than the people who employ them.
PR can be detached, but they most often aren't. An issue is that most don't have the final say in how their client responds because they negotiate what they release with the client themselves and their attorneys during scandals and so on. This is why many of them normally focus on crisis prevention and event promotion.
@Maintenance Renegade So edgy. So dim. You must be a hit with all the freshmen. I'm not responding after this. You don't meet the base threshold for intelligence, cunning, or wisdom for me. You're arrogantly throwing superficial claims so stupid that they're boring. I would say, "please, don't respond," but hearing your own thoughts echo back with no dissent is obviously what you're wanting. ✌🏾
@@RashidMBey Imagine living in the current time period and thinking PR artists are anything other than attempting to deceive an audience by putting a more popular spin on a bad thing while masking true intentions: i.e. what propaganda ministries would do.
@@RashidMBey And not forget claiming it was a joke after someone try use arguments..
@@LordVader1094 Generally the main difference between PR and propaganda is that PR is straight about they intentions. When propaganda hide behind authority to spread false information. Otherwise they use almost same methods. Simple example is a difference between commercial and fake news designed to promote something.
Shows you how well written Bloodborne was.
No story writing better than shitty story writing, so from did at least something.
The Black Baron I wouldn’t call it no story writing. Bloodborne (and the Dark Souls trilogy) just has a story that is told to you in fragments via item descriptions and dialogue. So, while there’s no narrator/„This is the story“ there’s definitely story telling
Saying any soulsgame has no story is really telling on yourself.
7:26 is it me or this would sound really cool when the main character says that to some all powerful god just before killing him
@IntergalacticNobody *Also in the distance* I agree
The Not Necronomicon. Totally missed the chance to call it the Necro-not-icon.
Cthulhu: Humans are mere ants to us.
Protagonist: 20 to 50 humans are kill by ants every year!
Cthulhu: You get kill by ants? WOW
On a cosmic level, humanity is embarrassing.
Is that statistic real? I ask because it is 2018 and I have totally lost the ability to tell what lies are.
@@Raziel312 penis lol
@@Raziel312 Well, in the Amazon there are roaming hordes of ants numbering in the thousands and there are also ants (from Asia?) whose sting has been compared with getting shot by a gun.
@@feralchangeling97 on a cosmic level we're basically an unnoticeable speck. We're not even type 1 civilization yet.
Lovetr'iangle is the most powerful of The Old Gods.
Yes, the scary tentacle monster that can telepathically speak to you. "Thank god she can't actually read my mind because I'd have no way to explain my way out of what I'm thinking right now." - the best scene of Release that Witch.
“By the way didn’t you 20 to 50 humans are killed a year by ants quite an interesting statistic, Cthulhu” my favorite line in this episode
And billions are killed by humans. Quite interesting as well, humans.
@@Enchie Perhaps a Guillermo Del Toro take on the Mythos is warranted. To wit, cosmic beings are scary but humans can be the REAL monsters.
@@Enchie On what time scale?
I just had a stroke
@@Enchie But I wonder, how many Old Ones are there again?
Do an episode on Crossovers. What is some bad writing advice for crossovers?
MisterZygarde64 always make sure to not explain any of the backstory of the characters, or go the opposite way and fill the story with nothing but backstory!
Hate on one side of the cross over while also celebrating the other.
Have one side do all of the work and have the other side just sort of be there!
Make one side overpowered compared to the other side, and make the other side just sit around and just go wow for the entire story.
I vote for this episode on crossovers to be a colaboration with another channel. I don't know which because I don't know any channels that could work, but still sounds fun
to be fair, Lovecraft's books had eldritch horrors being beaten by regular humans all the time. like in The Shunned House, where a massive eldritch abomination sleeping beneath a house is slain by a few barrels of sulfuric acid.
you have to remember most the killable ones were either half-human or were just outright weaker than the other eldritch abomination
“Beaten”
It’ll be back.
Also when people say “Cthulhu’s form is unknowable! It drives you mad just to see it”, I roll my eyes. No he doesn’t. His form is explicitly stated. Will looking at him make you go mad? ...maybe? But not because he looks so twisted and horrifying that you lose your mind. Because he has psychic powers that can make you go mad.
In fact a lot of Lovecraft monsters’ forms are clearly described. Even saying “indescribable” is kind of shorthand for “it’s really messy and would take too long to describe without eventually becoming boring”.
Azathoth is probably the only truly indescribable one, being our _entire_ universe, and all of time and space, everywhere and nowhere all at once but without time.
eat hot chip and lie agree, can’t make people fear on something that look like “Gigantic flesh slime with tooth and eye that can keep growing it size”
They beat cthulu in the same manor as a disney villain
Lovecraftian horror is all about ordinary people like you and me putting themselves knowingly through immense trauma, tragedy and doom so they can maybe buy humanity a few more decades, or even a century. They're much more heroic than heroes of fantasy stories who have magic and martial valour.
And Lovecraft Lite is just a total rebellion against the original horror that made Lovecraft work. Humanity is NOT important in the grand scheme of the universe no matter how much we might want to delude ourselves otherwise, and we are pitted against beings that don't operate by the same rules of time, perception and physics as we do. Cthulhu isn't just a garden-variety kaiju.
My tip: Lovecraftian horror goes great with space isolation horror. Imagine the story takes place on a tiny vessel representing humanity's first manned mission out of the Solar system. There aren't any guns aboard, help is millions of miles away, and the ship is rapidly hurtling away from the light of the Sun and into the void beyond. Maybe the mission is a collaboration between national governments and/or corporate entities so the crew come from all over the place and don't trust each other, so paranoia sets in quick when things start going wrong. Think something like Warhammer 40000 or Event Horizon.
J. Jonah Jameson i think you misunderstand what Lovecraft Lite means, Lovecraft Lite doesnt means that humanity is the most important thing of the universe not even close to it, what it means is that despiste we being just an insignificant bunch living in a floating speck of dust in the middle of an uncany and disinterested ocean, we will still fight to the bitter end, because something most modern Lovecraft authors forgive is that the we humans are resourceful and bitter bastards that will not just accept our destiny to cower in fear and die once the trumpets of apocalipse call to our door
yeah, maybe anything we do is meaningless and we all will die and no one will remember us, who cares then, lets give this crazy tantacle guy everything we got then, fuck it
also even in the originals stories Lovecraft wrote sometimes humanity wins, knowledge, resorcefulness and sheer dumb luck sometimes does the trick even when your enemy is an incomprenhensible tentacle monster from the fifth dimension, because if we arent important in the grand scale of things neither they are, we all are just as unimportant so in that case, we have a fighting chance even if a minuscle one
or the white chamber
THANK YOU. I could not have put it any better myself. I don't read Lovecraft because I find it scary. I read it because the ideas that he demonstrates make so much sense. We humans are meaningless in the wider universe. We're simply a band of naked monkeys that has decided to look into things which there is no guarantee that we can cope with. It's not that humans are unimportant. It's that we are totally and unbelievably meaningless.
@@carso1500 Essentially the difference is between Lovecraft (generally) represents pessimistic nihilism, while Lovecraft Lite represents optimistic nihilism.
@@Alexrider02 basically yes
It's the diference between knowing that you are unimportant in the grand scheme of things and then inmediately dropping to the floor as a cry baby to let the earth eat you and accepting that and still keep going forward with renewed strenght
Cthulhu can only be defeated by a LOVE TRIANGLE
Well it was good enough to defeat the Reapers
The chosen love triangle.
But Cthulhu’s whole shtick is having Non-Euclidean geometries?
No love triangle between you, Cthulhu and hastur?
Hastur is pretty cute though
No homo
Thats been done. Though if I recall it was actually Nyarlothep and they were all Japanese teenagers.
Defined oh yeah, I remember that anime
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Look up the book "Awoken".
02:26 Lemmy try
And then I saw the thing I can never unsee. A million slathering mouths with an array of razor sharp teeth. These teeth grew outside of the mouths as well. _All of it's eyes were looking right at me._ Piercing, glaring, you name it. But I could not make a sound. It was as though it had stolen my voice. I can't feel my heart beat anymore, staring back into it's eyes. How long have I been standing here? I forgot. What was I supposed to remember again? I forgot. Who even am I? All I can remember is it's many eyes, staring into my own.
My silly Hobby is to recommend Fun-UA-camrs aorund
who are in 1 way or Another similar to JP.
Do you wanna have more Writing Advice or Literature-Madness or any-such-thing?
Creating your own thing is ironically more Lovecraftian than retreading Lovecraft's work beat-for-beat.
What, you're telling me there's more to cosmic horror than wacky cults,tentacles,and giant monsters inconceivable?
Sound like anime to me.
Yeah sure beats me, I have no idea what else is there....
@@klobiforpresident2254 For a reason..
Of course! There needs to be 40 grand worth of lawn gnomes in there somewhere.
@@klobiforpresident2254 I will add movies to the list.
5:39 Good god....The ancient beings of the city of Oh-Ma'gosh......They worshipped the unmentionable...The Love Triangle.
Such a sight has driven my mind to the edge of it's stability.....
Hey listen, the best way to deal with Cthulhu is becoming him yourself. Go to a cockroach infested house and crush and spray the little fuckers. Basically if you become an exterminator you become Cthulhu to pests.
Weiss!
I think the idea behind cosmic horror is that the monsters are indescribable because they're from dimensions and realms completely different from our own. Kind of like the sphere that boggled the minds of the Flatlanders because they could've conceive of anything beyond their flat dimension.
I stan by you aswell, but I guess the only issue here is that other writers have been copy and pasting the idea of indescribable thats its become overused
A good writer would probably say that, but most people misunderstand cosmic horror and just think of it being madness inducing for no reason
@@tuluppampamso basically flat earthers would be the people not driven insane by cosmic horror
@@abigailgriffin-wc3fm yes, because they're incapable of comprehending anything and would thus not even perceive anything of greatness in an horror
Reactions to seeing cosmic horrors
Most people: This ancient, all-powerful being is completely unknowable and unfathomable, I cannot possibly hope to comprehend the sheer scope of this monstrosity and I am naught but a mote of dust in its presence
People in Warhammer 40k: lol imma punch it
Saitama: excitement about possibly interesting battle at first, disappointment after he one-punches it (just like pretty much always).
Also, in Warhammer 40k, a lot of people will go like "most people" in your example - very few can go bravely about it.
Me: "Hi, what's your name and pronouns, oh, nice to meat you *noises that should not exist*
I wonder what story would one make if one is to follow every video topic of terrible writing advice from Mary sue, Love triangle, and etc.
A cosmic horror story. Those abominations put together will scare me more than any American Horror Story.
If he were to write that book I'd buy it.
Mary Sue, love triangle, urban fantasy...
*Twilight*
I wanted to say Twilight but Nabuchodida... what kind of insanly long name is that? Oo
If done right it can actually be really good
"Human beings are mere insects to eldritch gods, much the way humans are to ants."
* Looks to ant on windowsill *
* ant slowly drags it's leg across it's neck *
The way JP’s face flickers every few seconds is a nice touch.
When discussing Lovecraft, the phrase "Separate the artist from the art." Comes to mind.
As someone who is desperately trying to write a lovecraftian horror story. This is pretty accurate.
Zachary Tricoski you too?
Me three
Me four.
I recommend you seek out the other members of the Lovecraft Circle for more ideas. Robert E Howard, Conan's creator, knew how to do action while making it ultimately meaningless in the cosmic scheme of things. Robert Bloch, before he wrote Psycho, approached the Mythos from a heavy psychological perspective with emphasis on Egyptian elements. And that's just two members of the Circle.
Just know that you don't need to have tentacle creatures, but the main points of Lovecraftian horror is the feeling of hopelessnes against a greater force, the fragility of human sanity (Which I don't think should be done by ''looking at this thing makes you mad'', that is a pretty cheap move. There are many ways for someone to go insane. Use that.), and how little we know about the universe we live in.
Cosmic horror? That's an interesting way of saying Lovecraft!
(what do you mean there are other cosmic horror authors other than Lovecraft?!)
Oh, just Robert E Howard, Clark Ashton Smith, Robert Bloch, August Derleth, Frank Belnap Long...and there's second gen folks like Ramsey Campbell and Joe R Lansdale.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Technically speaking Howard and Lovecraft were friends and pen-pals, so naturally they would overlap.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Robert e Howard? Didnt spot any cosmic horror in Conan stories. did he write some cosmic horror?
Lovecraft started the genre, but the term ''Lovecraftian'' as we know it was largely popularised by other authors. Hell, I'd even argue Lovecraft himself was pretty bad at it. He had great ideas, but his writing is just terrible (He describes how *TERRIBLE* and *HORRIFYING* and *ALIEN* things are for multiple paragraphs. We get it, the thing looked weird.).
@@arte0021 You can find examples in "The Shadow Kingdom" from his Kull series and "Worms of The Earth" in his Bran Mak Morn quartet of stories. In fact, go find Chaosium's collection of his Mythos fiction, Nameless Cults for a complete list.
I'd just like to say that the "Impossible architecture" thing... wasn't really a thing.
It was just "Non-Euclidean geometric architecture" AKA "Architecture on and with curves"
Technically Lovecraft wasn't that well educated and sometimes did use terminology in weird way. He obviously meant more impossible architecture, as that other thing is absolutely normal, especially in his times.
JerryDaMiry non euclidean geometry can mean many things, you are describing geometry that sort of ignores postúlate 5 of euclid laws, but geometry that violates the other four, now thats alien
This literally summed up the entire plot of Dr. Strange.
Dormammu I've come to bargain
and the cosmic side of the marvel universe in general.
There is no greater horror than the love triangle
I have a parody version of a Cthulhu Mythos Great Old One as one of the gods of my fantasy setting (but literally only one). His name is Icthyultu Yold-Shodoth, and his entire body consists of an unfathomably large tentacle covered in mouths, each mouth having a tentacle for a tongue, each of those tentacles covered in mouths, etc. etc. with recursion that goes at least to the subatomic level. He can sing off-key opera in harmony with himself in a language no other being or magic can decipher, if it is even a language at all rather than the inane babblings of a cosmic entity driven insane by exposure to a world too simple and comprehensible for itself to understand.
His followers have a very straightforward reason for serving him; if you sacrifice someone else's life to him ritually, he will eat the victim and has a 50/50 shot of either eating you as well or bestowing a seemingly random superpower on you. The second time your odds are 61/39 because he finds people whom he's already given power to better tasting and a second powerup will cause your body to begin mutating and deforming; the third time your odds are 74/26, fourth time 81/19, fifth time 90/10, sixth time 95/5, seventh and all times thereafter 98/2, each new power making you more horrific and easier for people to recognize as someone who's _definitely_ been messing around with Yold-Shodoth and committing murder to get eldritch powers. But someone with a single Icthyultu power under his belt? Totally capable of blending in with the rest of society - will find holy water painful to the touch but can probably bluff through this if he knows about it ahead of time.
>inane babblings of a cosmic entity driven insane by exposure to a world too simple and comprehensible for itself to understand.
GENIUS.
"He can sing off-key opera in harmony with himself..." now _THAT_ sounds *scary!* X^D
More original then what we get from media now.
Here's the thing: This is just one of four huge, supernatural villains for my setting based on taking some interpretation of a stereotypical evil god and running with it. Yold-Shodoth being a parody of poor Lovecraftian horror imitations (his appearance being somewhat similar to Shoggoth is actually an accident since I'm not especially familiar with Lovecraft directly), another one is a combination of the libido and immorality of a Greek deity with the human sacrifice of an Aztec one, another is an evil overlord who invented orcs and rises from the dead slightly faster than once every thousand years, and one is a deceiver so effective that her own followers usually just _think_ that they're totally self-serving atheists despite being pawns in her greater schemes.
I really like those four. The one thing that's kinda lost on lovecraft lite is the sense that any victories are temporary ones. Like the 'most definitely not sauron' you have going there. The idea that you 'saved the world'... for now. That nothing will ever free the world from having to face that nightmare, which only needs to win once, thus making it a statistical certainty that it WILL win eventually? Knowing that would be incredibly tiring, frustrating. It just rips the wind from your sails and takes away all the certainty that the sacrifices were worth it. Suddenly the people you called cowards for saying "Why should I face that? It's not like my sacrifices mean anything." are vindicated. Hell even if that threat was pretty weak (almost a joke) but came back about every 3-4 generations worth of time? That would fit the classical futility of Original Flavor eldritch horror.
The thing most people don't realize about Lovecraft is that he wasn't actually that good of a writer. The only reason his stories were successful is that they were the baseline for a new genre of horror, and he mostly went off of his childhood experiences and nightmares to make his stories. Not saying he was a terrible writer, but he certainly wasn't what everybody chalked him up to be.
By the time Cthulhu wakes up, we'll have messed-up the planet and ourselves so bad that he'll wonder what kind of cosmic horror could have caused it. If he survives whatever we killed ourselves with, that is.
-If you read this book of forbidden knowledge you will turn insane!
-hmmm....
Good thing I can't read
First off, is the damned book in English or not?
@Un-broken and victorious so I'm not reading any scribbles that will drive me mad so I can possess the honorific of 'Mad' something-or-the-other.
Anti climactic, but reassuring. Thank you.
@Un-broken and victorious well, if Lovey's language and style did nothing to my sanity, I don't see any reason to fear the Negronomicon.
Lovey just got a heart attack.
I went insane after finish reading Nyaruko hentai....
hmmm...
_11/10: Would broke my penis mid-reading and scream in agony again_
If you couldn’t read, then I imagine that any book sentient enough would turn into a picture book to understand it
Wouldn’t the Not Necronomicon be called the Necronotmicon?
or NecronomiNOT?
The Vivovomicon?
People forget the other volumes sadly: Unauchsprechenlichen Culten, De Vermis Mysteriis and others.
Funny, Lovecraft actually mentioned that the Necronomicon was just the Greek westernized name, it was called the Al-Azif by it's creator the medieval mystic from around 720 A.D. Yemen. He was known as Abdul Abhazred. That name does not really have any meaning, but it is believed to be a mistranslation. And what was translated is just his tittle, which would actually be "Abd al-Azrad", which would be read as "The worshiper of the great devourer".
NecroYESOFCOURSEmicon
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"The worst part is the author's clear political bias"
Brilliant and amazing!
If I absorb this video as the others (that is, doing the literal opposite from what is being described) I'm not going to write a good cosmic horror story either. The descriptions need to match the monsters: tendrils of inconcrete hinting at an unknowable yet primitive creature. The creature is too grand for us to understand, so disjointed adjectives tied to bits of it are the closest we can get. You need to figuratively hand the sandpaper to the brain and shout encouragements at it while it massages its undercarriage with it. And the great old ones arre closer to conceptual beings. And cthulhu is NOT a great old one, he's just...well...an old one. He's colossal, has warping effects on both the mind and the body and reality but he is closer to fundamentally comprehensible, that's why the big dragon squid green man is known. My point is that cthulhu is not the rule on how to describe the great old ones: something like azathoth or at worst nyarlathotep should be.
Basically cosmic horror is based on fear not of the unkown as much as of the unknowable. And making it knowable (because you can NOT come up with the unknowable in visuals) will take a big chunk out of the horror.
Video: 20 - 50 humans each year are killed by ants 🐜
Ant colonies all across the globe: Hold my beer 🍻
Time to send in the endless hoards, Russian style.
Humans also sometimes do win with Eldritch..
I mean, Cthulhu was defeated by a boat
@@augustokonrad3572 Nah he turned into fog and the stars were not right so he had to go back to R'lyeh.
@@augustokonrad3572 The boat ramming scene exists solely to show that Cthulu can't be damaged. He just reforms after the impact.
At the beginning, for a moment I thought that the summoning of the cosmic horror god would end up summoning the Love Triangle. What a disappointment :P
What a wasted opportunity.
It's LoveCRAFT Triangle!
And it's here: imgur.com/cEr4zj7
that would've been way funnier.
+Johanna Geisel Wow you actually went and did it.
@@THExRISER Even before I read your comment. Great minds think alike. :)
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Is this a Darkest Dungeon reference or just a coincidental similarity that the fanboy in me identifies as being a reference?
Man, i hope so.
Back to the the Pit
Peculiar and reclusive... this youtuber is more dangerous than he seems...
Begone, fiend!
Videos of monstrous size have no intrinsic merit, lest inordinate amounts of sarcasm be considered a virtue
Let's raise awareness for "Cthulhu Mythos", the 5th edition Dungeons & Dragons adaptation for the "Call of Cthulhu" RPG tabletop game, written by the original author. It contains in-depth instructions for how to write Cosmic horror. Please like this message for all of those burgeoning story writers.
Eh, to me the Chaosium rpg is better than putting it into d&d. It's harder to make that kind of horror work well in a combat heavier game. Also eventually you have too many hit points to be afraid of weaker ones, like deep ones.
@@thewhispererindarkness9117 But at the same time it is possible what Soul series prove. Just in such case focus should be on protagonist fighting to save his humanity, when he is partially one of them. Though Silent Hill and Alan Wake also did great job, recently also Evil Within (just remember that initially it may be not clear that cliches are deliberate).
Can you make a book that is purposely bad? I'd certainly buy that.
@Maintenance Renegade
Says the guy who apparently has never watched *Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.* ;^)
There's a book called "Naked Came the Stranger" which is exactly that.
@Maintenance Renegade True. There are cases of people attempting to make deliberately bad stuff, but genuine things are always noticeably better in laughably being bad. It is because creators did try make good stuff and failed, instead manufacturing bad idea on purpose. Sharknado for example can't be genuinely bad idea, Room on the other hand is..
@Maintenance Renegade Yeh. It is surprisingly common behavior, especially on internet.
Just look up Peter Chimera. His fics are _glorious_
0:49 Is Cthulhu pregnant?
...Yes.
@カプ・テテフ *prefnat
Sounds like someone's bad fanfiction.
Christian Schreiber
*prognaet
Real Cthulhu has curves!
"The lighting was too low-key for me to make out the monster but it certainly was low-key enough for me to make out *with* the monster."
i would really like a story about humanity learning to live around the eldritch gods, similar to how many species have to adapt to survive around the ecosystem's apex, or were the eldritch gods accidentally help humanity, making a parallel akin to humans accidentally helping invasive ant species
Don't forget to make every single alien horror unmistakably and irrevocably evil. It's not like that undermines claims that they're alien and unknowable, there's no way something outside of human understanding could accomplish anything constructive or something that could be construed as benevolent, or even just unpredictable. Every single great old one wants to destroy the world or something narratively identical to destroying the world, with no exceptions ever.
TheAbyssoftheMind thank you. The eldrich=evil thing always annoyed me. Most of the monsties just didnt care.
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 Considering that most of Lovecraft fanboys think that Cthulhu is central figure, it say everything about that.
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 It's a poorly-handled remain of Lovecraft's original works, and for all his prose he didn't think some things through all the way. Think of it this way: there's some people who really hate ants... and then there's antscanada. A great old one who really likes mortals could still be a cool story, because their idea of helping us might not line up with the human idea of being helped, etc.
Yeah but for Cthulhu destroying a planet is like farting. You just do it sometimes. And he's far from being the most powerful guy in Lovecraft mythos
If anyone wants to know who I think is the most *dangerous* (it's probably the third most powerful entity, but the most likely to cause harm) creature in the Lovecraftian Mythos is Nyarlethotep. It is capable of shape shifting into something humanoid, is immortal, is very patient, and wants to have fun. When all these three things are combined, Nyarlethotep becomes the only one capable of doing whatever it wants. It is also powerful enough to stop most other entities destroying earth, so in a way he doesn't immediately kill all life, but rather uses it as a plaything until it doesn't care about humans anymore.
3:27 Followed the ritual in this book to summon a Shoggoth, got a regular Goth instead 0/10. Would not recommend.
Also, can anyone recommend a good English to fifth century proto-Germanic dictionary? This Goth keeps killing neighbourhood animals and cooking them over a fire in my living room and I need to tell him to leave.
Just shove him out. He's trying to gather enough food to reach Imperial Age, and if he succeeds you can't stop him anymore after that as he'll replicate rapidly and become immune to projectiles.
10/10, would read a book on this premise.
Nah, it's fine, just _hire a samurai._
Nice play on words my friend.
Ok, that caugth me off guard.
Sadly, contemporary cosmic horror is like the old Scooby-Doo. The creeping chaos and unfathomable evil turn out to be some megalomaniac already-rich guy who wants absolute dominion and is willing to sacrifice everyone ELSE to achieve it. Better to reign in hell for a short time while the world ends than retire to Tahiti. Reminds me of Amway. Joooiiin ussss.
2:24 So, I wanted to give a go trying to make describing this thing creepy, and actually ended up making a story I think is cool! Enjoy the story if you're patient enough to read through my bickering, lol :)
She looked down at her feet, afraid to look up. She knew It would be standing there, whatever it was. That COSMIC HORROR. In all of her years at the job, she’d only ever heard stories about it. Her hands twitched as she felt her knees wobbling under her. The world was turning dark, it was trying to get her to look. She knew she couldn’t look, no one had ever looked! She would surely go insane.
She fought the urge, her eyes nearly rolling to the back of her head as she collapsed on the ground. Still, it was getting darker. She felt a shiver up her spine as she heard a noise. It was a lurk, it sounded as if the ground had shook or split apart.
She quickly put her hands over her ears, imagining the worst. She could still hear it just as well. It got longer and the more she heard it she pressed her hands tighter over her ears, wishing she could push her hands straight through her head, maybe the best way to describe it was a loud static noise with the sounds of screaming in between the crackles, like a wild animal dying, crying, a broken computer shutting down. So loud that if you hadn’t seen it coming, you could have shattered your eardrums. In the very rare situation where you actually saw this thing, you were supposed to cover your eyes and ears. The only way to resist it was to COVER YOUR EYES AND EARS. But of course, she didn’t exactly have 4 arms.
She bit her lip, cursing to herself as she felt her pockets once the noise had subsided. “Dammit!” She thought, as she felt the empty spot in her pocket. The equipment. She was right. She had dropped her Auditory Hearing Blockers (AHBs) back at the bridge. Now she couldn’t move. She couldn’t even try to get them. She almost screamed when the sound started again, but she bit her tongue to stop herself. This resulted in a loud crack being heard as a burst of blood was released in her mouth, but an injured tongue was the last thing she was worried about now.
She held her hands over her ears again, in a desperate attempt to block out the noise for a second time, but she didn’t admit to herself that it was over. “No no no NO NO NO NO-” She only had a moment to think this before the sound took over her mind, controlling her like a puppet or a flexible piece of wire. She lowered her hands to her sides. Her arms were shaking like crazy, but it wasn’t fear. It was only the after-shock. She opened her eyes, and tilted her head up.
It loomed above her, jagged edges jittering out from it’s sides like someone had placed them all on it individually in a way that caused bruises and skin distortions to appear all over it, like a disease mixed with a really bad sunburn. It looked like a big lump of clay growing orifices, like somebody had got their cancer removed. It was a big blob of skin, fingernails grew from its sides and double rows of teeth stuck out of it. Blood was everywhere, eyes and rows and rows of teeth formed like a big grin, that stretches infinitely everywhere on its body and sticking out of its head. (Or where a head should’ve been.) It shouldn’t have been alive, it couldn’t have been able to breath. The lump of skin looked like it could pull and stretch and that its teeth would fall out if you pulled it too hard, the eyes were darting around left and right, they were in clusters like the whole thing was made out of tons and tons of spiders. A terrifying arrangement of teeth and muscles.
She got up, looking directly at it. Even though it was always smiling, she felt it was smiling at her. It’s rows of teeth had opened up to a large whole, like the inside of a shark's mouth where there are just rows of spiked teeth going back in it’s mouth forever. She walked towards it, her mouth spewing blood onto her checkered shirt. “Finally.” She- no, IT had thought.
(Paragraphs aren't separated well since I wrote this on Google Docs and pasted it here) Wow, you actually read all the way down here?? Wow, you're a very patient person! Thank you and I hope you enjoyed my story! I'm free to any feedback you might have to make this story better
Terrible Writing Advice and Overly Sarcastic Productions should do a collab. That'd be awesome.
The Jester - Fool Of Hearts Yes, ignoring the rest of the video for the few minutes talking about racism. That’s also bitching.
@The Jester - Fool Of Hearts I enjoyed that video because it was just a summary analysis of all the Lovecraft story rather than a deconstruction of their tropes and styles. It was also intentionally sarcastic hence Overly Sarcastic Production. Or maybe you are just pissed that Lovecraft's racism is being addressed?
Yeah, I noticed that. I’m all for mentioning that stuff doesn’t hold up in books! We should mention it in order to move forward! But I was a little surprised that that was pretty much everything she talked about. I was like- “I get some of it doesn’t hold up but like, these plots are super cool. So...could we focus on that too?”
@@arbaazshaw8123 Everyone knows Lovecraft was racist. _Everyone_ was racist back then. Not to mention that Lovecraft was also racist against non-English white people.
"Race is the most controversial aspect of Lovecraft's legacy, expressed in many disparaging remarks against non-Anglo-Saxon races and cultures in his works. Scholars have argued that these racial attitudes were common in the American society of his day, particularly in New England.[142] **As he grew older, his original racial worldview became a classism or elitism which regarded the superior race to include all those self-ennobled through high culture. From the start, Lovecraft did not hold all white people in uniform high regard, but rather esteemed English people and those of English descent.[143]** In his early published essays, private letters and personal utterances, he argued for a strong color line to preserve race and culture.[144] His arguments were supported using disparagements of various races in his journalism and letters, and allegorically in his fictional works that depict non-human races.[145] This is evident in his portrayal of the Deep Ones in The Shadow over Innsmouth. Their interbreeding with humanity is framed as being a type of miscegenation that corrupts both the town of Innsmouth and the protagonist.[146]
Initially, Lovecraft showed sympathy to minorities who adopted Western culture, even to the extent of marrying a Jewish woman he viewed as being "well assimilated".[147] **By the 1930s, Lovecraft's views on ethnicity and race had moderated.[148] He supported ethnicities' preserving their native cultures; for example, he thought that "a real friend of civilisation wishes merely to make the Germans more German, the French more French, the Spaniards more Spanish, & so on".[149] ** This represented a shift from his previous support for cultural assimilation. His shift was partially the result of his exposure to different cultures through his travels and circle. **The former resulted in him writing positively about Québécois and First Nations cultural traditions in his travelogue of Quebec.[150]** However, this did not represent a complete elimination of his racial prejudices.[151]
Biggest problem with Cosmic Horror is that the only movies that do it correctly are basically swept under the rug and ignored completely. Truly epic cosmic horror does not in any way actually have to show the abomination, just insinuate it. Event Horizon, In the Mouth of Madness, [insert other Sam Neill horror film here], and best of all the Sir-Not-Appearing-in-This-Film classic, Cthulhu.
The best cosmic horror is that where the humans themselves are villains and your madness-inducing abomination is simply and outlet for their own internal evil.
You forgot The Thing
And original 1979's Alien movie. Plus: Annihilation, The Mist, The Blob
was that a Monty Python reference
@@HughMansonMD The Thing had the misfortune of coming out around when ET did and bombed at the box office.
Event Horizon was pure schlock lol
Oh God. I was gonna write a story that had "Necro" in the title even before I knew what Lovecraft even was and now I'm reconsidering it.
In case you don't know, 'necro' means death, not anything to do with race.
@@purplehostofrain1901 I know. It had celestial and space-y elements which is sorta of Love-craftian but without the horror, (decided the name before I even knew lovecraft). So I don't want to be called as copying Lovecraft but being bad at it because he wrote a book called the Necronomicon.
@@necromelodia2432 Oh ok.
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I *_REALLY_* don't like that combination of words on the computer
Also, The great old ones should be portrayed as apathetic, monstrous tyrants rather than any being kind or benevolent. Transcendental reality-bending entities should only have one perspective and that is to devour anything below them!
Never should they either consider keeping those creatures they may consider lower than ants to study or try to fashion a way of communication that in't hell-bent on destroying the mind of the targets in a way akin to madness. Never stray from the conventional path that sees the species uninvolved and mercilessly devoured like the unimportant.
After all, it's not like there could one one or many who could choose to aid said smaller species in the same unknowable way the more apathetic or malevolant ones choose to ignore or destroy them all together. Nevermind the ones that may seek to bring said species under their eldritch folds in a way akin to evolution or apotheosis, expending their mere five senses far beyond what they used to have and watching the story unfold as people learn to deal with their more 'outer' perceptions. That would surmount as a grievous mis-step.
Guess Haiyore Nyaruko San is more of Second case.
The Protagonist slowly lose the ability to fear the elder god Herself (?) Then proceed to get consumed by a Hentai....
Cj Marshall I'm pretty sure the idea is that they're a force of nature. They transcend space, time and reality and are conscious up to the point of knowing the extent of their powers. It's purely within their nature to consume, like a cell knows how to divide.
Most of the time, the Elder beings only display human emotion when they take human form.
... having said that. Pretty much no "not" lovecraftian really explores the nature of these beings
@@jedyzichterman358 More that they have own goals and logic what don't corespondent with human understanding of the world. Yog-Sothoth is for example considered as benevolent but ignoramus entity. As such his attempts to help usually cause gigantic fuck ups. Like or example turning in fish sinking person instead pulling him from water. On the other hand Nyarlathotep do understand how humans think, but despite that is an asshole. Still despite toying with humanity he don't wish destruction of his toy box, so you never know if he sincerely try help of fuck with protagonist.
Generally stereotypical depiction of those entities are related to Shub-Niggurath, who is something like a Zerg Overmind consuming everything on its way and Cthulhu is basically insignificant, though it could destroy Earth trying live it, and Azathoth is both creator and insane, to point that even most eldritch abominations try stop him from awakening for any const. And most others are dozen kind of weird.
If someone want easy approachable examples, Kyobey from Madoka Magica and Spirit of Tree of Harmony from My Little Pony are quite decent examples of Eldrith.
These nightmarish creatures can be felled, they can be beaten!
How quickly the tides turn!
Victory.... A Hollow and ridiculous notion. We are born of this Thing, made from it, and will return to it in time.
Continue the onslaught! Destroy! Them all!
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
Crusader Vince
Dang it you beat me to it
"Just don't describe the monsters!"
*[laughs in At The Mountains Of Madness]*
SIX FEET END TO END, THREE AND FIVE-TENTHS FEET CENTRAL DIAMETER, TAPERING TO ONE FOOT AT EACH END. LIKE A BARREL WITH FIVE BULGING RIDGES IN PLACE OF STAVES. LATERAL BREAKAGES, AS OF THINNISH STALKS, ARE AT EQUATOR IN MIDDLE OF THESE RIDGES. IN FURROWS BETWEEN RIDGES ARE CURIOUS GROWTHS-COMBS OR WINGS THAT FOLD UP AND SPREAD OUT LIKE FANS ... WHICH GIVES ALMOST SEVEN-FOOT WING SPREAD. ARRANGEMENT REMINDS ONE OF CERTAIN MONSTERS OF PRIMAL MYTH, ESPECIALLY FABLED ELDER THINGS IN THE NECRONOMICON.
i stan the elder things
2:22 It’s a monstrous being covered in spikes, mouths, and eyes.
I would so watch giant robots fighting colossal alien invaders bent on destroying our world......wait...Japans been doing that for decades.
We have Pacific Rim... but sadly they don't fight with Gundam's agility and speed :P
Evangelion tu.
GIGA! DORILL! BREAKAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
When all else fails, just rip off Ridley Scott and H.R. Geiger, and claim your ideas as original.
They also weren't really original.
@@TheRezro exactly!
TheRezro I thought Alien was original and great.
I saw those single frame transformations... or is it merely a trick of the light?
"To lazy to even copy Lovecraft's pantheon?"
*stares at Starbound's main boss's name.. "Ruin"*
at least is a name given by humans and not how the creature wanted to be called
*Steals half of the Andreev's mythology. Also struggles to pronounce it*
You wanna know the best cosmic horror in the world?
Then look not further than in Kirbys Story
He eats his enemies and use their powers to kill the enemie's friends. How is that game rated E?
@@Enchie You'd be surprised what they could get away with. Just look at Zero.
@@SilverHairedFreak25 Better yet, why not the entire backstory of Haltman and Stardream?
Starts out with a cute pink puffball fighting cute enemies that don’t really die, having picnics with his friends along the way... and ends with A GIANT BLOOD-SPRAYING EYEBALL THAT EMBODIES ALL THE EVIL IN THE UNIVERSE.
And that’s before we even get to the deeper psychological horror of Planet Robobot’s lore...
There is something in that.. My Little Pony is for example Eldritch Horror for the kids.
This is the easiest, literally just copy Lovecraft, and don't change a thing.
Cept maybe the racism...
@@greghannibal eeeh
No easier, when you cope Lovecraft, remove all the parts that make his writing unique,effective (at horror) or good and make that the whole cosmic horror story.
@@greghannibal To be fair, his xenophobia and general unpleasantness had a big impact on his writings.
@@greghannibal People seem to forget that the racist things that Lovecraft said were still popular beliefs at the time. He also said racist things about every race, including white people. Lovecraft seemed more inclined to disparage the uneducated and uncultured more than any other group of people.
In my opinion, the best lovecraftian story I’ve seen that wasn’t by Lovecraft himself is Bloodborne, because it takes the themes of Cosmic Horror and yet is entirely original.
Or just copy doom where people find you can harness the power of hell to solve the energy crisis on Earth. Where nothing can go wrong.
OH NO IT ALL WENT WRONG!
Only because of a single bitch, though, and an apathy towards her from Hayden. Was it not for her, everything would've been alright for at least some more time.
"I only poopoo farted for the good of humanity."
Good cosmic horror is subtle. Bad cosmic horror beats you over the head with it.
Uzumaki by Junji Ito is really good for those who haven’t read it. It’s a good example of cosmic horror
It is an EXCELLENT example
Really most of Ito's work are great examples from Remina, to splatterfilm. Plus his work usually doesn't include Evil Cult plots that many lovecraftian writers tend to write and even the one cult in Hell star Remina was trying to stop the end of the world rather than bring about the end all be it through just as objectionable means.
Naruto :)
@@jaceyb3792 Because Junji Ito is literally a genius. The guy has an imagination to rival Lovecraft himself and is an uber talented artist. Horror fans who haven't checked his work definitely should
@@jaceyb3792 I don't think the cult was trying to stop the end of the world. I actually believe that Remina was some kind of lovecraftian god, and Ito was implying that the cultists were the one who summoned it in the first place, and they wanted to sacrifice Remina (the girl) and her father to it. This is suggested by the fact that the hoods the cultists wear have vertical holes for eyes just as Remina's eye is perpendicular to its mouth, by the fact that at some point Remina unexplicably pauses its attack on earth as if it was waiting for the girl's sacrifice, and by the very explicit parallel between Remina (the planet) "licking" the earth and the cultist licking Remina's (the girl) face. They don't want to stop Remina, they want to please it.
I think Remina is meant as some kind of bane on humanity summoned by our own sins, and it does succeed in annihilating almost all of humanity because humanity at large is not reedimable. But it does fail to destroy it entirely because there is a spark of hope, there is still some good in the world, and this is connected to the fact that the cult failed to kill Remina because of the selfless help she received from strangers. Mind the christian symbolism, too; they wanted to CRUCIFY Remina.
“They can be beaten, they can be pushed back!” +5 stress.
ehh, Darkest dungeon reference.
In my stories I always know how to defeat them
WITH THE POWER.....
OF THE LOVE TRIANGLEEEEE!!!!
The Necronomicon is no scarier than a quantum mechanics textbook :)
That book should not be named. It contains forbidden knowledge so inconceivable and utterly terrifying it can destroy your sanity with a single page.
@@haillobster7154 Trying to solve the Particle in a Box problem almost put me in a box :)
@@haillobster7154 Oh, and next to it is the Necronomicon
@@victornoel36 can you guess which book scared Lovecraft the most?
@@haillobster7154 Now that you talk about it, I'm curious to know
As someone who’s about to publish a cherry-picking Lovecraftian-Adventure rip off novel:
Is this a personal attack? 😂
Jordan A Moore
Personally, I’d say go for it... heretic.
No, its terrible writing advice. I hope you followed it ;)
I wanted to describe your creature at 2:21 as I interrupted it, because it honestly does look hard to describe, and it was a fun exercise!
"A vaguely canine shaped abdomen of thick, naked muscle; no skin to speak of. A grotesquely fattened gecko-like tail with a smaller tendril that forks from the bottom middle that slithers against the air independently from its twin. Two hind legs that appeared cervine in nature, yet only one possessed any keratin to speak of; two hooked claws upon its left foot. It's right hind leg was merely naked, whereas its singular front leg forked off into three sections pointing onwards. This leg laid perfectly in the middle of the creatures chest and each forked end had similarly hooked claws to its hind - the end that held the beasts weight having three, while the others merely had a lonely two. It's seemingly neck grew upwards only to be snapped, sloping it's neck crookedly downwards. It had no head in sight, rather eyes splayed across its bare and contracting muscles. A short tendril of muscle stuck out from the middle of the whole beast and strange boney growths jutted our at seemingly random locations but they all held a similarity of being on the upside of the creature and pointing upwards.
Despite all the order in the chaos, there was no order for its last identifiable feature; it's mouths. It's many, many mouths. Every mouth unique in size, shape and teeth, they laid across the creature as they opened and closed, grinding those very teeth as if they were starving. Some smiling, some were wincing, and some made an expression as if to scream, but none could speak or even make a peep."
Firelord Eliteast67 I do write! Unfortunately I have the attention span of a headless goldfish.
I'm talking some good old dipping your fingertip - not even your finger - into a story outline, a character or two, or some world building and then something shiny catches my eye. Whoops, now I'm chasing a rabbit down a hole where theres things to write in every direction! But I'm falling, and can't hold on.
I have too many things I need to finish. Rescue me from writers purgatory, I beg of you.
Sure, the Elder Gods don't care about insignificant humanity, but they care about something! How can Shub-Niggurath choose between Yog-Sothoth, and Nyarlethotep?!
A single mom choosing between a professor and a con man, hm?
@@haillobster7154 I know it was meant to be a joke, but Shub-Niggurath is literally a force of nature monster. She doesn't care about anything, only reproduce and consume. And Nyarlethotep work for Yog-Sothoth, usually bending his masters orders for own amusement.
@@TheRezro you didn't like my description of these three, did you?
@@haillobster7154 As I said I get the joke..
Shub-Niggurath does have a half human child so... humans also have a chance here.
SCP - Terrible writing advice...? Maybe?
at this point I'd be more surprised if I found out they didn't already have that
The single biggest thing I hate about scp is that 60% of all entries are arbitrarily invincible or world ending, come on even something as mundane as a mountain lion is pretty scary
FUCK YES!
@@draconianwarking object class: KETUR
No need for a video on that. They're all terrible.
Does Bloodborne count as a Cosmic Horror Story??
The second half of Bloodborne did have inspuration from lovecraft based on what I know.
Yes
The Developers claim to have been inspired by Lovecraft, and there are certainly some cosmic horror elements to it.
Yes definitely. Even though you can 'beat' the cosmic monsters by whacking them in the face per the Soulslike formula, you can't 'win' in the long term and the only way out is to transcend humanity and turn into a squid, get your brain melted by cosmic death moon monsters, or literally just walk away with your questions unanswered.
@@DJtoadcool Somewhat
I love how 'Lovecraft Lite' is a misnomer since the man himself made stories where the eldritch horrors can be defeated, often in mundane ways.
In the original "Call of Cthulhu" story, the people just drive a boat into him. Turns the eldritch god into jelly.
Granted, it doesn't permanently kill him, but if all it takes to stave off the end of the world is a repeated sequence of well-timed boats plowing through Cthulhu jelly to keep him from reforming, then I think humanity is gonna be fine.
It could be a cruise ship destination.