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Electric shock is definitely a hotly debated subject with lots of variables. It was explained to me by an old time electrician is that you can be energized live electrical circuit or conductor; you won't feel it at all. However, if you complete the circuit between the live and neutral or ground is where things get a bit shocking. Electricity is quite lazy in nature, it comes from the source and returns back to its source the easiest path as possible. Most generators neutral and ground are floating, so if an appliance have a live to ground short. The ground conductor would send the live power back to the generator and energize the frame and the overload protection circuit on the generator will not trip unless there is a neutral ground bonding jumper is in place. The ones that GFCI outlets onboard are usually neutral and ground bonded on the generator itself in order for them to work correctly, but causes other issues like nuisance tripping if there is another neutral and ground bonding on the load side. The GFCI outlet will trip when it senses an imbalance little as 4 to 6 milliamps between the live and neutral conductors. Like the test situation you have, you would need to attach the ground terminal on your generator to a ground rod for it to properly sense a ground fault but who really does that?
Pure (distilled) water is actually an insulator, it's the dissolved impurities in water that make it conductive. Go back to the first experiment with hairdryer #1. Add salt a little at a time to the water with the extension cord submersed.... guaranteed to trip the generator.
I wanted to do it with more normal conditions as most people won’t add salt. But if in the dirt possible minerals and more would be a lot more conductive then concrete and pure water.
First! Interesting test. There's something in the water... "No worries, it's just my heat gun. I need a small, portable water heater for my 5 gallon bucket of water".
Hum interesting...at 0:34 you say "almost every generator is floating neutral..." which is exactly opposite of what I have experienced. Granted, you say "verify yours". Almost every generator designed for camping or open frame construction use has a bonded neutral and you have to go to pains to remove that bond. Home backup (and maybe RV generators that will often be connected to shore power with bonded) have floating neutrals, but I find almost every generator sold and Home Depot, Lowes, Harbor Freight, etc. are bonded. Many are buried in back of panels and not labeled or indicated and require a LOT of effort to swap them (really surprised they don't make it REQUIRED to be much easier to connect/disconnect that bond).
Correct a lot are and yes buried and sometimes hard to convert. But most inverter gens are floating and yes home back up as there is only to be one point of bond which would be the home or the RVs bond.
If you bond the neutral to the ground at the generator. Then wire s GFCI outlet to a plug. Plug that GFCI plug into generator. Now plug that harbor fright heat gun into the new GFCI receptial. Your new GFCI will trip . Your hair dryer actually had a GFCI on it. If you add salt to the water then you would get different results.
Exactly, some gens have a GFCI already on them but sometimes cause problems when hooking it to your house. Double bonded and like to trip. And yes salt water would be different lol hence plain water is not great for a conductor alone.
@@johnnysweekends By the way, you advised that you have videos on how to break in a new generator. I’m trying to find that, but can’t find it on your channel. Any link??
Water in it self is not conductive, it’s the minerals and suspended solids that are conductors. For this reason many production processes use ultra pure water.
Maybe it will help to provide examples where you may kill yourself / at least is considered very dangerous: Say you come home dirty and sweaty and decide to take a bath in your metal bath tub. While in the tub and the water is pretty contaminated with stuff that came off of your body as well as hard water to start with, you pull out a hair dryer that for whatever reason has no safety protection on it (all hair dryers should have this) and plug it into a regular home outlet, no GFCI (all bathrooms should only have GFCI). The hair dryer slips out of your wet, clumsy hands and lands in the water. With the contaminants in the water in particular and water on your salty skin the resistance is lowered. The metal bathtub makes a reasonably low resistance path back to a ground neutral bond. The power comes off of the coils of the hair dryer, through the contaminated water, through your body, to ground, and back to source, completing the circuit. You get a descent amount of current through your body through the lowered resistance of being exposed to water. However, as you can see in these tests you made, the breaker does not trip. You just take the high currents in the tub until you are dead. With GFCI, the GFCI would trip right away, saving you. Another example is say you have a short to the case of your toaster oven. Your ground wire is not hooked up to anything, especially not to a ground - neutral bond. Now everything on the ground wire is energized and the power source, say your generator, keeps running as there is no path back to source to trip the breaker. Now say your space heater also has a short and keeps running even when you flip the breaker off because it is getting the power from the short to ground in the toaster oven. Now say you plug in your power saw and touch the metal case with your sweaty, wet hands. Now you are coming in contact with an energized surface. All you need to do is to complete the circuit somehow and you are fried, especially with those sweaty, wet hands lowering the resistance, allowing a higher current to flow through you. Maybe while the saw is in one hand, you put your other sweaty, wet hand on a metal work bench that has a neutral wire in contact with it, say an electrical outlet on the work bench wasn't wired up and you just didn't know, and you complete the circuit through your body and across your chest as the power flows from one hand to the other. People keep finding ways to do stuff like this and die. It is just in your tests you managed to not complete the circuit in a way that would bring harm to you. Just sticking two probes into water like you did was never going to show anything. If you wanted to at least have an attempt at this, you would have one probe touching the ground and the other in the bucket in an attempt to complete the circuit through a connection to ground, which is a common case in electrical systems. Here is the problem, when you don't understand electricity, which most people don't, you can have many close encounters of the electrical kind and not be harmed or killed. I have talked with illegal immigrants for example who have no clue about electricity and take hits all of the time doing electrical work, say they stand in front of Home Depot and people hire them to wire up ceiling fans among other things. Actually 115V is common in the USA specifically because you are less likely to kill yourself with it than 240V and American standards around electrical outlets and such are not as good as in Europe. But yet I know people who have been found dead on the floor messing with electrical systems and it is clear that is how they died because what was found around their body. Like one of my Dad's coworkers after not reporting into work was found laying next to his opened stereo amplifier dead and cause of death was determined to be due to electrocution. Then again my Dad also has stories like working on vacuum tube computers for the US Air Force and then slowly waking to find an airman giving him CPR after he took a hit and lost consciousness. So you just need to get the right things in order once and you are dead or at least close enough to death to where if there is a bystander, they end up giving you CPR. You only die once. And when you don't really understand and are not following the rules or the system is just not safe to begin with, that is when the unexpected electrocution happens.
OMG...watching you STAND in the water with live wire in it was really unsettling...I understand the concept of grounding and stuff, and you *should* be fine, but...damn! Moreover, I didn't see that you had your generator grounded, which also made me a bit queasy...
By grounding the generator your creating a path to ground, And completing a circuit. That possibly could be more dangerous. Hence most times no need to ground a portable generator as it creates a shock hazard. And if someone happens to be close or even touch the wire at the same time a short happens could be bad. Now sure the chances are slim. But even then a proper ground requires a very long rod. Which if you used the appropriate rod you would be calling the 1-800 call before you dig number. I’ll take my chances with floating neutral and non grounded any day. Now sure home back up units by code need to be grounded.
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That test was AWESOME!!! 😁 I always wanted to do that, but I NEVER reached that level of Crazy! LMAO... 🤣
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Electric shock is definitely a hotly debated subject with lots of variables. It was explained to me by an old time electrician is that you can be energized live electrical circuit or conductor; you won't feel it at all. However, if you complete the circuit between the live and neutral or ground is where things get a bit shocking. Electricity is quite lazy in nature, it comes from the source and returns back to its source the easiest path as possible.
Most generators neutral and ground are floating, so if an appliance have a live to ground short. The ground conductor would send the live power back to the generator and energize the frame and the overload protection circuit on the generator will not trip unless there is a neutral ground bonding jumper is in place. The ones that GFCI outlets onboard are usually neutral and ground bonded on the generator itself in order for them to work correctly, but causes other issues like nuisance tripping if there is another neutral and ground bonding on the load side.
The GFCI outlet will trip when it senses an imbalance little as 4 to 6 milliamps between the live and neutral conductors. Like the test situation you have, you would need to attach the ground terminal on your generator to a ground rod for it to properly sense a ground fault but who really does that?
No one puts a rod in… lol 👍🏼
Pure (distilled) water is actually an insulator, it's the dissolved impurities in water that make it conductive. Go back to the first experiment with hairdryer #1. Add salt a little at a time to the water with the extension cord submersed.... guaranteed to trip the generator.
I wanted to do it with more normal conditions as most people won’t add salt.
But if in the dirt possible minerals and more would be a lot more conductive then concrete and pure water.
I was nervous just watching you lol. Very interesting video. Stay safe .
👍🏼😀
Thanks!
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First! Interesting test. There's something in the water... "No worries, it's just my heat gun. I need a small, portable water heater for my 5 gallon bucket of water".
lol yea it worked liked a normal heating element which I though was weird.
It should have had something to trip it lol.
Don't try plugging the cord into your wall socket and trying the water in a five gallon bucket experiment, you might get a different outcome. Cheers!
Oh for sure hence it was mentioned in the video. 👍🏼
Holy cow you are a BRAVE man!!!! Fantastic real life review.
It’s science !!!! 😂👍🏼
Hum interesting...at 0:34 you say "almost every generator is floating neutral..." which is exactly opposite of what I have experienced. Granted, you say "verify yours". Almost every generator designed for camping or open frame construction use has a bonded neutral and you have to go to pains to remove that bond. Home backup (and maybe RV generators that will often be connected to shore power with bonded) have floating neutrals, but I find almost every generator sold and Home Depot, Lowes, Harbor Freight, etc. are bonded. Many are buried in back of panels and not labeled or indicated and require a LOT of effort to swap them (really surprised they don't make it REQUIRED to be much easier to connect/disconnect that bond).
Correct a lot are and yes buried and sometimes hard to convert. But most inverter gens are floating and yes home back up as there is only to be one point of bond which would be the home or the RVs bond.
If you bond the neutral to the ground at the generator. Then wire s GFCI outlet to a plug. Plug that GFCI plug into generator. Now plug that harbor fright heat gun into the new GFCI receptial. Your new GFCI will trip . Your hair dryer actually had a GFCI on it. If you add salt to the water then you would get different results.
What is a "receptial" ?
Exactly, some gens have a GFCI already on them but sometimes cause problems when hooking it to your house. Double bonded and like to trip.
And yes salt water would be different lol hence plain water is not great for a conductor alone.
Ground fault circuit interrupter… homes have them all over 😀👍🏼
Throw down a couple of IPA’s if you want to get a buzz. 🤠. Good info! Thanks!
@@deerinmyyard8430NoCal slang for receptacle. 😉
This is a great ad for a Harbor Freight heat gun….lol
lol right. Surprised the video wasn’t more popular.
Maybe I need a new thumbnail of the heat gun and the water 😂
@@johnnysweekends By the way, you advised that you have videos on how to break in a new generator. I’m trying to find that, but can’t find it on your channel. Any link??
@Inisfad can look here How To: Generator break in
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Well that's one way to heat a bucket of water... user's experience may vary. I'm still kind of glad all UK plugs have fuses...
Yes the gun in the water surprised me…lol
Put some salt into that water
Came here to say that... pure water doesn't conduct electricity.
I may be crazy but I’m not stupid 🤣🤣🤣👍🏼
Hence why I mentioned it in the video ..👍🏼😀
Water in it self is not conductive, it’s the minerals and suspended solids that are conductors. For this reason many production processes use ultra pure water.
Maybe it will help to provide examples where you may kill yourself / at least is considered very dangerous:
Say you come home dirty and sweaty and decide to take a bath in your metal bath tub. While in the tub and the water is pretty contaminated with stuff that came off of your body as well as hard water to start with, you pull out a hair dryer that for whatever reason has no safety protection on it (all hair dryers should have this) and plug it into a regular home outlet, no GFCI (all bathrooms should only have GFCI). The hair dryer slips out of your wet, clumsy hands and lands in the water. With the contaminants in the water in particular and water on your salty skin the resistance is lowered. The metal bathtub makes a reasonably low resistance path back to a ground neutral bond. The power comes off of the coils of the hair dryer, through the contaminated water, through your body, to ground, and back to source, completing the circuit. You get a descent amount of current through your body through the lowered resistance of being exposed to water. However, as you can see in these tests you made, the breaker does not trip. You just take the high currents in the tub until you are dead. With GFCI, the GFCI would trip right away, saving you.
Another example is say you have a short to the case of your toaster oven. Your ground wire is not hooked up to anything, especially not to a ground - neutral bond. Now everything on the ground wire is energized and the power source, say your generator, keeps running as there is no path back to source to trip the breaker. Now say your space heater also has a short and keeps running even when you flip the breaker off because it is getting the power from the short to ground in the toaster oven. Now say you plug in your power saw and touch the metal case with your sweaty, wet hands. Now you are coming in contact with an energized surface. All you need to do is to complete the circuit somehow and you are fried, especially with those sweaty, wet hands lowering the resistance, allowing a higher current to flow through you. Maybe while the saw is in one hand, you put your other sweaty, wet hand on a metal work bench that has a neutral wire in contact with it, say an electrical outlet on the work bench wasn't wired up and you just didn't know, and you complete the circuit through your body and across your chest as the power flows from one hand to the other. People keep finding ways to do stuff like this and die. It is just in your tests you managed to not complete the circuit in a way that would bring harm to you. Just sticking two probes into water like you did was never going to show anything. If you wanted to at least have an attempt at this, you would have one probe touching the ground and the other in the bucket in an attempt to complete the circuit through a connection to ground, which is a common case in electrical systems.
Here is the problem, when you don't understand electricity, which most people don't, you can have many close encounters of the electrical kind and not be harmed or killed. I have talked with illegal immigrants for example who have no clue about electricity and take hits all of the time doing electrical work, say they stand in front of Home Depot and people hire them to wire up ceiling fans among other things. Actually 115V is common in the USA specifically because you are less likely to kill yourself with it than 240V and American standards around electrical outlets and such are not as good as in Europe. But yet I know people who have been found dead on the floor messing with electrical systems and it is clear that is how they died because what was found around their body. Like one of my Dad's coworkers after not reporting into work was found laying next to his opened stereo amplifier dead and cause of death was determined to be due to electrocution. Then again my Dad also has stories like working on vacuum tube computers for the US Air Force and then slowly waking to find an airman giving him CPR after he took a hit and lost consciousness. So you just need to get the right things in order once and you are dead or at least close enough to death to where if there is a bystander, they end up giving you CPR. You only die once. And when you don't really understand and are not following the rules or the system is just not safe to begin with, that is when the unexpected electrocution happens.
Put salt in the water
😂😂😂 heck no
OMG...watching you STAND in the water with live wire in it was really unsettling...I understand the concept of grounding and stuff, and you *should* be fine, but...damn! Moreover, I didn't see that you had your generator grounded, which also made me a bit queasy...
By grounding the generator your creating a path to ground, And completing a circuit. That possibly could be more dangerous. Hence most times no need to ground a portable generator as it creates a shock hazard.
And if someone happens to be close or even touch the wire at the same time a short happens could be bad. Now sure the chances are slim.
But even then a proper ground requires a very long rod. Which if you used the appropriate rod you would be calling the 1-800 call before you dig number.
I’ll take my chances with floating neutral and non grounded any day.
Now sure home back up units by code need to be grounded.