I know that the game isn’t “unplayable” but 95% of the time I sit in the lobby for 5-15 minutes just for everyone to leave in the first chapter. I still get good games but it usually depends on the day. I forgot to mention the ddos but it forces people to play local with bad ping or a modded lobby, and if the hosts team doesn’t win the server closes
Agreed even if you join the game you always get kicked for no reason like it’s very stupid and great videos keep up with the great work as always 💖💖💖💖and also i have seen a lobby where it’s just 2 people for no reason and always kick me or people who join there team for no reason it’s so annoying
I hate when people act like “ragequitting” isn’t a valid part of the game. You can very clearly tell when it’s a match that you’re getting/going to get stomped on based on how your teammates act/the score. If the score is an 800pt difference and your team doesn’t know how to act and spend extra time looting it’s so valid to quit that game and find another one
@@darrinidontcare9526 l4d2 players ragequit when they suffer the smallest inconvenience in the game. I didn't get the charger as my first SI? Literally unplayable (disconnect) Missed 1 shot? Disconnect My teammate missed 1 shot? Kick him, then, disconnect.
Insta-Kill = Leave Losing Even by 20 Points = Leave Bad First Attack = Leave Die as Survivor = Leave Literally just trying to play the entirety of the parish = Leave (For me atleast) Not No Mercy/Dead Center/Dark Carnival = Leave (Which is ironic cause a Insta-kill = Leave) And then finally, finally when you get that team that wont leave and you're having fun. Boom Ddos Attack :(
@@ShallowTeal no mercy insta's i guess are kinda unfair since charger wasnt planned, but they didnt do anything about it so it was planned in the end, dead center is completely fair tho
rampant toxicity, cheating/hacking, votekicking players that make one small mistake, ddosing servers and even players home internets, entire team rage quitting after losing just one round. idk why people do this in a game where you literally don't gain or lose anything from winning or losing
If the average versus pub player doesn't immediately get positive results they just kick you or leave Recently had some troglodyte try to kick me for playing rock tank when my team was respawning, there were no commons, there were no heavy objects, survivors were all green and had aks (one also had a molotov). If you aren't doing everything perfectly and hard carrying your team in 120 ping pub lobbies they will either kick you, grief, or leave.
Did the other 2 go along with the moron? Because in that case, it's not worth playing with a team of morons and they probably saved you the time you would've wasted trying to play with them when they're clearly clueless.
@@itsjustredright yes. The role of the tank in versus is to delay the round so that the other 3 specials can spawn many times and get as much damage as possible. Throwing rocks damages survivors from a safe distance, preserving HP, but more importantly resetting the frustration meter. The problem with noobs is that they think since they have big HP and they're "the tank", they should rush in. This is a waste in most cases because survivors who are above 40 HP are faster than the tank, and there's 4 of them vs 1 tank. The proper way is to wait until survivors are either boomed and hindered by commons, below 40 HP or they have little room to run around.
@@pantommyalso depends on the infected team and the player who is controlling the tank. If the tank player is a pro player and bhops god and commands a good attack.
Don't play vanilla public versus, it's tilted for survivors anyway. There are steam groups to play competitive versus with more checks on cheating and toxicity plus the game is more balanced. Or just find a group of friends you know won't kick you and just wanna have a good time.
Disclaimer: A LOT of text and a experience so surreal that I can't even believe it happened, so, yeah The "this guy is r*cist, i've played with him, can we kick him?" happened to me, but not because of that, because i'm not a mega carry that destroys the other team, just a regular player who knows the mechanics and how to play, not a professional. Well, one time I joined a No Mercy game, and a few minutes later, this guy joins, i'll call him "R" for r*tarded. It was a random lobby, we were tied with the other team, even when we miss 1 player, so he joins and guess what, everything went downhill the moment he joined, I was in 3rd place in terms of points, and who knows why, he started a vote kick against me, saying that the game isn't going well because of me, and everyone voted yes without asking why. I was like, ok, sure and stopped playing that day because I was having fun and got kicked for no reason. A few days later, I joined another No Mercy game, and oh my, R joins the game too, and instantaniously starts a vote kick against me, saying that i'm trash and deserves to be kicked, and everyone voted yes again. I was speechless but didn't care about it too much, so I joined a different map, and a few rounds later, he joins AGAIN and for my bad luck, in my team, so he started a vote kick again with the same pasted message from last game, and got kicked again. I was getting salty already, and I tried with a map that isn't so popular, like The Sacrifice, and you guessed it, he joins at the end of the match and the cycle repited. I was surprised on how this guy managed to join my game every single time, so I told this to my friends all this and said that half of the players (here in LATAM) know that guy and what he does (he gets blocked and reported but Valve doesn't do anything, and even with so many blocks he has, he managed to join my games), when he always sees a "bad/regular player", he starts harr*ssing him/her just to make the player leave the game, but he does it with the ones who have an easy name to remember and a few hundred hours in the game, random people with 1-10 hours doesn't peek his interest, so I got targeted by this dude. So I asked them if we can test something, so they unblocked him and we started a vs lobby, me with my friends obviously, and i'm sorry for the people who joined our team, but we were kicking them to see if R is 24/7 looking at my profile, and sure he was, because in the second chapter of No Mercy, he joined and tried to kick me but it got denied by my friends, he tried again asking why the rejected the vote, that I deserved to be kicked (we were survivors this round, and man, even the infected team stopped attacking to see what was going on lmao), and after a few insults towards me and my friends, he started to FF me to kill me, and the moment he did that, all 4 infecteds targeted him, it was glorious. The problem is, that no one knows who R is, that was an alt account so nobody can find who he really is, but I did the same as everyone did, block and report, and that is the end of the story, thanks for reading.
That guy seems like a stalker man, the other time we had to face him and you don't know how scared I was when everyone on the opposing team knew him and they all went after him, and he kept voting to kick us
I remember two of my teammates were oh so desperately trying to vote kick another one of our teammates. Idk why, the teammate wasn't doing anything wrong. But they kept spamming to kick that teammate over and over again, they legitimately probably initiated vote kick like 20 times, and I voted no every single time BC the teammate wasn't doing anything wrong, and least from what I could tell. Two checkmarks and two X's every single time. Well I guess they figured out I wasn't going to budge, so they initiated a vote kick on me. And the idiot I WAS DEFENDING voted to kick me as well, 3 checks against one X. I'm assuming they kicked him the second I was booted. Idiot deserved it at that point
I got kicked once because a new player was playing versus, so I didn't vote kill next round, I got kicked because I wanted the new player to have a decent experience
@@pantommy the enemy team was casual, and they weren't good just the new player just got bad luck and the 2 other guys were toxic to everyone the enemy team wasn't good at the game either the one enemy who got the most damage was 424 damage, and most was from death charge they even got the achievement for death charge I believe
Makes me glad I was able to experience versus from 2012 to 2015 when the community was still wholesome, my condolences to those that have to deal with versus in its modern times on both pc and xbox, yall missed out
God, I would not be surprised if it was a coordinated effort to ruin the game at this point. What do the people who play this way (kicking people, always leaving when things inevitably don't go their way) even get out of the game?
Getting kicked is also quite common on regular campaign servers, especially for three man teams. Recently got kicked for shopping on the last chapter of Dead Center at the elevator section. It's insane how impatient people have gotten even when there's no competitive aspect.
@KawaiianArgument Yep, that's definitely right, I agree with you. Especially the part with versus, it gets REALLY annoying when your teammates go on every side quest possible instead of just trying to finish the map. But I personally thought it was probably fine as we just restarted after failing and all, and since it was the finale and specials spawn very rarely when you're still up at the top of the elevator. It's not like the walk to the elevator was that long as well. But I get what you're saying and understand the hate behind it and all.
this is why i stopped playing online and just play singleplayer custom campaigns, sometimes coop with a friend .... much more enjoyable and noone to hold me back because they don't know which end of the gun shoots bullets...
We need to dissect a L4D2 player's brain because it's fascinating how these people have no basic concept of fun, it's all about numbers and points that keep them going, nothing else, not even food or love, they're completely soulless waste of oxygen.
I have mods enabled on solo versus too. I troll bots by playing Tank on God Mode with Speed Hacks. Or by playing an unkillable Boomer. You get the idea. Fun as hell.
It's more fun too when you installed trash talking special infected and played it on single player versus Edit:turns out it doesn't work yeah I was high as hell when typing this
@@pantommy Nah. Kickscum are subhuman. They're never good at the game and never know what they're doing, they get mad when you're better than them but they don't understand why. They want themselves and only themselves to have fun. Do everything in your power to ruin a kickscum's game, and life if applicable.
I feel like versus has became so toxic lately, 2 days ago me and my friends we were playing friendly match server with pubs , 3 cheaters joined and they started saying racist slurs and ruined the game by hacks , and yesterday i joined an random server just to be greeted by a furry who started accusing me of beginning a troll so i can get kicked like wtf man.
The only reason to kick another player in this gamemode is if they have *absolutely* no idea what they’re doing or if they’re an asshole/cheater. Sadly half the versus players are assholes so it tends to go the other way around. Even kicking people in lobbies if they don’t have 5k+ hours or if a friend wants to join. *It’s not like there’s a private lobby feature or anything so you’re not wasting another personal time when they join and wait in the lobby.*
Always remember, don't feel bad if your teammates for whatever reason decide to kick you. Sure, you may or may not have played like trash, but the real pieces of trash are your so-called "teammates".
No hearts to break. Don't get upset and don't blame anyone else or yourself. It's simply that they didn't consider you to be worth keeping along. You would and should do the same for other weak links. It's a team game, meaning that you directly influence how much fun your team has. Take the other perspective. Isn't it selfish for you to make the game worse for 3 other people only for you to enjoy messing around? Getting kicked is a learning opportunity, reflect on the reason you got kicked and try to see if you can improve anything. And if there was no reason, simply asssume they either want to play with a friend or are probably bored assholes, no reason to get stuck on it just find another lobby. You should kick and get kicked often. That's the way things are. Do everything you can to ensure there's no reason to get kicked, and then complain that you're being kicked (even though the assholes are doing you a favor not wasting your time trolling you, lmao)
@@pantommy "but you're supposed to get kicked and not have fun so you can learn this game's community is not about having fun but about getting the most kicks!!!!!1 😭😭😭😭😭😭😡😡"
@@laughingcat6540 it's really your loss if you give up, I used to enjoy the game without constantly getting kicked or having to kick noobs (because I could actually carry them most of the time since we also played against some noobs). I really don't get your point. If you think it's fair for 3 average players to have a bad time just for 1 noobs to have his careless fun, I don't know what to tell you. Helping noobs is something good players do, but when the noobs are too hard to carry against better enemies, it stops being fun. You're taking things solely from your perspective as the sandbag and not considering anyone else's. This is, quite literally, not teamwork or cooperation.
@@pantommy most new players understand how to play, they just don't know all instakills and infected strats, And the only way they will learn is if we actually let them play the game. Besides if anything the so called "good players" are the ones that tend to fuck up and leave because y'all don't understand that you need to check on your team and not rush in like an idiot.
@@pantommyI also wanted to argue that single noob doesn't ruin your fun, what ruins it is only wanting a perfect victory. Heck for us good players it should be a good challenge, right? So why not roll with it, what makes left4dead fun is those moments where everything goes to shit and you try your darn best to survive. And it's during this where you get the hard choice of either risking your life for a teammate or staying safe yourself. And if you survive with the odds stacked against you, thats when victory feels earned. And even if you didn't make it, there's always chapter 2-5 for a comeback.
This is why I play L4D on 360. Players actually get a chance to play. Sv_cheats is set to 1 on the retail release, so if someone comes in our games thinking they deserve to play more than someone else, they get escorted out of the game via a frozen screen. Now they all stay in private games, where they belong, away from the community that just wants to have fun and play the game, win or no win.
@@borntopwnyou Honestly I’ve had a theory for a while that the reason people are so entitled and awful in those games, is because they are very easy to get into. Anyone can be “good” with the right killer, the right builds. So they work themselves up to be better than they actually are, but I’ve seen countless times that when these players play games that actually take skill, they fumble hard.
That is true at least in dbd you can actually finish a match unlike a versus match in l4d buuuut dbd is easily more stale than l4d gameplay wise so it's only a matter of picking your poison with those two games
The second the game freezes and you can see the mouse cursor move before coming to an absolute halt because you’re filled with utter disappointment and sadness is so real
Even better: Install the campaign versus mutation and competitive bots+ mod. Teammates that actually help you, infected that actually dodge your attacts, pre aim and attack together. No kicks and the luxuary of pausing. Those mods have made vanilla versus completely irrelevant in my eyes.
i know the feeling bro like whenever im doing versus i cannot see a time where there is no votekicks but sadly it happens. like man, damn i know i suck at the game, but lemme enjoy the game know mean? people are just obsessed with winning instead of having fun.
I picked up L4D2 again after watching youtubers like you. Reminded me of the good old days of pure fun. 1st lobby kicked me for not speaking spanish (I didn't talk on the mic/chat, but I understand spanish), got kicked a few times for being a "troll", and the few times I could play it was a 4v1 (I would stay but my random teammates would join for a min and then leave). I stopped playing after a few days and only watched L4D2 youtube videos
I got the same experience but not quite, a few years ago in team fortress 2. I didn't speak english very well back then, and these guys took notice of it. Not only did they told me they didn't want me in, but they also said a lot of mean thing. Luckily they said pretty much everything in voice chat so I didn't understand much. I think that was my last tf2 game lol
My first and only versus experience was a guy kept calling out every single thing I did wrong as an infected, like... EVERY. SINGLE. THING. I don't know if he was even playing or just observing my actions the whole time. He also typed all that in all chat. Nevertheless, I was kicked after I downed a survivor as jockey in spitter's acid
@@carlogustavovalenzuelazepe5774 nah u just suck balls 😂😂😂😂, literally free 25 if it hit and u can't do shit if hit u hit that part if they already mil sniper 😂😂😂😂
@@Scampedits using the ceiling is a bug not intended, bug abusers are no different than cheaters, so deserved kick. if i wanted to play with cheaters and bug abuserse that when the witch spot go iddle etc etc i would use cheats my self as well so no, i want play a normal vanilla match with no bugs/exploits and no cheats. and when i want go serious i would go zonemod.
The problem is that the game is extremely snowball-y in the favor of the survivors. If you fail at getting any downs during the first spawn it becomes difficult to setup again since they'll just rush the map
@@Fanboy-hf1iu I’ve heard that it’s a guy named jimmy that got hurt because he streamed himself joining streamers games and ruining it, and when people didn’t like him for it he started ddosing streamers and eventually everyone. I’ve also been told that someone created a lot of bots that join the game and leave to get the server info to ddos it. But idk if any of it’s true so don’t take my word on it
Server stability is maybe worse than before But player toxicity is pretty much the same I remember one time when I played, back in what... 2014 maybe, something like that I got to spawn as a hunter, I hit a very big damage pounce, people got hyped. Then next time I spawned as a hunter, I missed the pounce and people called me a fa**ot in the chat, told me to uninstall the game, then just kicked me IMMEDIATELY lmao. I vividly remember that moment because it really left me questioning L4D2 playerbase. ANd that was 10 years ago haha
Jeez, if this is what playing L4D2 is like online i think I'll just stick to playing through campaigns with the offline bots. I doubt I'd be able to handle the toxicity and votekicks.
I wish Valve would just release a ranked mode so that all the sweaty nerds will stop hogging up the Versus servers and ruining the experience for everyone else.
versus is a get kicked simulator less then 100 hours in the game-kick no Russian-kick(at least for me sometimes) too good of a infected player-kick(not for me but i saw some hunter doing dumb shit like himzey at 1:35 and the dude on my team got a 25 dmg pounce and after that his victim called a vote to kick him,ive seen this a lot even after a boomer boomed all survivors the boomer got kicked like wtf) too good of a survivor player-kick(i bhoped on the second map dead center and got kicked,i shoved a jockey and then a hunter 10 seconds after and got kicked,i hope i have bad luck and not every lobby is like this) too bad of a infected player-kick too bad of a survivor player-kick final thoughts : i love l4d2 versus 10/10 would lie again
At this point you NEED a group of friends to play with and agree before each match if ya want to play seriously to win or mess around and have fun just to be able to play versus. (Which is something I don't have unfortunately)
Ive played with that Doctatofen_115 guy on realism vs before, he switches teams so he doesnt lose and if you dont baby him or you trash talk him he will rage kick you and if it doesnt pass he griefs and leaves
Sometimes when I’m guaranteed to get kick. I quickly leave the game. Change my name rejoin again and start trolling, by team killing, jumping off high places, and wasting items as survivor. As infected can’t really do much besides getting myself killed on purpose or not spawn. If I get tank though I kill my infected teammates. Instead of the survivors then jump off a cliff or go in the opposite direction of the survivors. This may make me sound worse than the vote kickers. I only do this if they kicked me for no reason. As shown in the video, and only mess with the team that kicked me.
The one that gets me is how frequintly people leave despite the game being near tie or not far behind. Or just outright leaving five seconds into the first chapter. Cheaters no longer phase me, if its entertaining enough ill stick around to watch the absurdity, bur usualy just leave.
It's really not the end of the world considering how quick matchmaking is, same reason why kicking is blown out of proportions. You can find a new match in 15 seconds at most. Just play for fun.
Those people don't play for fun, they play only to win. It's honestly quite sad to see. I couldn't care less about the score, all that matters to me is whether or not I'm having a good time. Video games are a form of entertainment after all. It seems like people forget that they are playing a game, and start treating it like it's a chore.
I was just about to make a video about this as well because it’s almost as bad on the Xbox where people start to lose and spam restart chapter it’s so annoying
One thing I found hilarious is that a lot of these people who vote kick you for the smallest of mistakes often make the same mistakes themselves, but of course it's not a problem when they do it
Im surprised how this game is not dead yet people get mad or toxic for being on the losing team like you can still win if you try or they just leave, some people vote kick for doing nothing??
Left 4 dead 2 players logic: Playing better than them = Kicked By Console. Winning = Leaving to shutdown the server. Having fun = Teammates shit talking the whole game. Afk for 0.1 sec = Kick. Not saving your teammates in a 1v4 situation = Kick + block.
Sorry for the second comment, but at 3:52 the Ellis guy named Hiro. I met him him in a match before, except his name was "HiroProtagonist" Without the ". He was pretty much an asshole, kicked me later on after i rushed ahead to get as far as i could cause he tried to team kill me.
I don't play on public servers, I only play on the freiheit and aurora servers. The normality of these servers is that they ban cheaters, ban ruins, there is no ddos, etc. cool video, dude ^^
i think when you got kicked and accused for being a troll and a racist, they were actually trying to kick that HS shot guy. I've played with him before and he is both of those things. I may or may not have trolled him back myself XD
Vote kicking, lag and teamkilling have got to be the most annoying problems with Versus I faced. Once, the charger's hitbox glitched and I missed the survivor despite being so close to them, and guess what? That was an instant kick
It made me sad when my L4D friends group drifted apart over time. It meant no more L4D2 versus, because I can't deal with this mess at all. I'm an adult with things to do and only so many hours a week for gaming, and I refuse to waste them on nonsense like this, when plenty of other communities have far less toxicity.
it was unplayable when it first came out too.. all of these events you showed happened 10x more. especially getting kicked by random people with mic's for no reason. made them feel good. oh dont forget the restart vote on finale always a classic.
One of the main reasons I stopped playing L4D2. I loved playing versus but the amount of times people would leave just because of a small mistake is insane. A missed charge, failed push, and a non charger infected spawn shouldn't be enough to leave but some people do. Hell I've had people leave/kick because someone was using "The wrong gun". It's a game with absolutely zero consequences for losing a match. At some point I even opted to play B4B because at least if someone joined your game, the most of your worries would be general incompetence. L4D will always be better than B4B but some of the members of the community make the games more of a preference pick than a one sided argument.
Tried console left4dead2 2 days ago and my first match was toxic out the ass with a guy on the other team giving me a 2ez message after getting to the saferoom like i cared and was just trying to play for fun but bro insisted on continuing to be toxic to me for no reason, some people are just sad individuals
literally all my games are either shitty modded servers or I get rage players who throw a fit at any slight inconvenience, the game has gone on too long to be ruined by shitty people
A sollution for the DDOS is to host dedicated servers/steam group servers, which doesn't have complicated setup that steam sale players can't figure out and isn't modded), as for the community I would recommend just adding regular versus players you come across whether they're toxic or not since the versus playerbase is so small nowadays so you'll have people to join off/or they join off you which in my experience is pretty consistent
0:38 Getting kicked because you're a "troll and a racist" is craazy. As if that isn't the general Versus population. Not saying that's a good thing! it's just something you learn about two games into the gamemode.
You miss one charge and you get kicked You miss one pounce and you get kicked You you miss one jockey lunge and you get called 5 different racial slurs in one sentence
There are servers dedicated to just bot versus here in Asia. I've never been able to play versus outside of those servers. My first actual experience was just the survivors camping outside the safehouse for over 20 minutes.
Rampant votekicking?? Thats not changed one bit. It's actually what made me never want to solo queue in any game ever again, ever, because I kept getting kicked and it really rubbed me the wrong way
I think your best bet at getting a good L4D2 experience in 2024, is to just sit idle in the menus, listening to the various tracks playing in the background😅.
The gatekeeping, shit community, and constant kicking are the reasons why I stay the hell away from versus games. I have 94/101 achievements and over 1.3k hours, and I simply can't be bothered to get the versus and scavenge ones.
i played on the Error Servers. They asked me, to make space for another dude. I asked why and they told me "he is our friend and we wanted to play together" than they discussed about kicking me. I got kicked during the gaming for something and now i am banned.
I love how people say oh vs players will kick you for the smallest mistake when that hasnt been true since launch. 9/10 times you did nothing wrong. Youre just unlucky that most vs players are actually in a constant state of psychosis and dementia, no better than the rage filled zombies in game. A butterfly flaps its wings in brazil and 30 people get kicked at once, crashing 12 different servers. God bless this mess.
No matter how good you are, you will inevitably get vote kicked out of a lobby at some point. Everyone is constantly on edge, and if you make even the smallest mistake, these brain rotted competitive players will take that as a personal attack. The only way for you to not get kicked is if you are literally a mind reader and can see their thoughts. Communication is key, but these types of players kick first and ask questions never.
I know that the game isn’t “unplayable” but 95% of the time I sit in the lobby for 5-15 minutes just for everyone to leave in the first chapter. I still get good games but it usually depends on the day. I forgot to mention the ddos but it forces people to play local with bad ping or a modded lobby, and if the hosts team doesn’t win the server closes
Agreed even if you join the game you always get kicked for no reason like it’s very stupid and great videos keep up with the great work as always 💖💖💖💖and also i have seen a lobby where it’s just 2 people for no reason and always kick me or people who join there team for no reason it’s so annoying
@@tylercaroppoli3324 if you make one mistake you get kicked, and if you play too good the other teams leaves and the game closes.
@@Himzeyy exactly it’s just dumb
POV:When you played l4d2 for 100hr look like
I understand that pain some people are just sheep sheep that need to be sheared (by sheared I mean they need to lose their damn balls)
When I'm in a rage-quitting compettition and my oppponent is a L4D2 player.
IMPOSSIBLE WIN
Imagine LTG in Left4dead2
I hate when people act like “ragequitting” isn’t a valid part of the game. You can very clearly tell when it’s a match that you’re getting/going to get stomped on based on how your teammates act/the score.
If the score is an 800pt difference and your team doesn’t know how to act and spend extra time looting it’s so valid to quit that game and find another one
@@darrinidontcare9526 l4d2 players ragequit when they suffer the smallest inconvenience in the game. I didn't get the charger as my first SI? Literally unplayable (disconnect)
Missed 1 shot? Disconnect
My teammate missed 1 shot? Kick him, then, disconnect.
@@elecman748 these aren’t the reasons why people leave but I get what you’re saying
Insta-Kill = Leave
Losing Even by 20 Points = Leave
Bad First Attack = Leave
Die as Survivor = Leave
Literally just trying to play the entirety of the parish = Leave (For me atleast)
Not No Mercy/Dead Center/Dark Carnival = Leave (Which is ironic cause a Insta-kill = Leave)
And then finally, finally when you get that team that wont leave and you're having fun. Boom Ddos Attack :(
If ddos attack is happening go to lobby and change to local sever that will stop the ddos
I mean if someone leaves probably someone will join in less than 10 sec
To be fair insta kills are unfair so its reasonable to leave.
@@paperclip6377They are part of the game bro nothing unfair about em
@@ShallowTeal no mercy insta's i guess are kinda unfair since charger wasnt planned, but they didnt do anything about it so it was planned in the end, dead center is completely fair tho
rampant toxicity, cheating/hacking, votekicking players that make one small mistake, ddosing servers and even players home internets, entire team rage quitting after losing just one round. idk why people do this in a game where you literally don't gain or lose anything from winning or losing
Competitive mind set
I got kicked by my own team because I got 2 kills as a hunter
Like seriously WE ARE A TEAM
Ego
Sad, pathetic people. Nothing more to be said.
In latin america this game is competitive, lots of toxic players are from there xD
So, tf2.
I never know a 15 years old game can be a breeding ground for deluded egoists and life-quitters
That's what I am saying!
If the average versus pub player doesn't immediately get positive results they just kick you or leave
Recently had some troglodyte try to kick me for playing rock tank when my team was respawning, there were no commons, there were no heavy objects, survivors were all green and had aks (one also had a molotov). If you aren't doing everything perfectly and hard carrying your team in 120 ping pub lobbies they will either kick you, grief, or leave.
Did the other 2 go along with the moron? Because in that case, it's not worth playing with a team of morons and they probably saved you the time you would've wasted trying to play with them when they're clearly clueless.
People don’t understand rock tanks, they would rather the tank run in with no support and die rather than using ur brain
What Rock Tank means? Never played versus. Does that mean that you're focusing on throwing rocks instead of hitting survs?
@@itsjustredright yes. The role of the tank in versus is to delay the round so that the other 3 specials can spawn many times and get as much damage as possible. Throwing rocks damages survivors from a safe distance, preserving HP, but more importantly resetting the frustration meter.
The problem with noobs is that they think since they have big HP and they're "the tank", they should rush in. This is a waste in most cases because survivors who are above 40 HP are faster than the tank, and there's 4 of them vs 1 tank. The proper way is to wait until survivors are either boomed and hindered by commons, below 40 HP or they have little room to run around.
@@pantommyalso depends on the infected team and the player who is controlling the tank.
If the tank player is a pro player and bhops god and commands a good attack.
This is why i stay away from versus, i wanna play it, but the community is pretty toxic. lol
I just avoid the toxic ones
The toxicity is what makes it fun!
@@Abomdosnow bro is a league player
@pantommy Yeah, but when most servers are filled with toxic trolls, there's nothing much we can do
Don't play vanilla public versus, it's tilted for survivors anyway. There are steam groups to play competitive versus with more checks on cheating and toxicity plus the game is more balanced. Or just find a group of friends you know won't kick you and just wanna have a good time.
Disclaimer: A LOT of text and a experience so surreal that I can't even believe it happened, so, yeah
The "this guy is r*cist, i've played with him, can we kick him?" happened to me, but not because of that, because i'm not a mega carry that destroys the other team, just a regular player who knows the mechanics and how to play, not a professional. Well, one time I joined a No Mercy game, and a few minutes later, this guy joins, i'll call him "R" for r*tarded.
It was a random lobby, we were tied with the other team, even when we miss 1 player, so he joins and guess what, everything went downhill the moment he joined, I was in 3rd place in terms of points, and who knows why, he started a vote kick against me, saying that the game isn't going well because of me, and everyone voted yes without asking why. I was like, ok, sure and stopped playing that day because I was having fun and got kicked for no reason.
A few days later, I joined another No Mercy game, and oh my, R joins the game too, and instantaniously starts a vote kick against me, saying that i'm trash and deserves to be kicked, and everyone voted yes again. I was speechless but didn't care about it too much, so I joined a different map, and a few rounds later, he joins AGAIN and for my bad luck, in my team, so he started a vote kick again with the same pasted message from last game, and got kicked again. I was getting salty already, and I tried with a map that isn't so popular, like The Sacrifice, and you guessed it, he joins at the end of the match and the cycle repited.
I was surprised on how this guy managed to join my game every single time, so I told this to my friends all this and said that half of the players (here in LATAM) know that guy and what he does (he gets blocked and reported but Valve doesn't do anything, and even with so many blocks he has, he managed to join my games), when he always sees a "bad/regular player", he starts harr*ssing him/her just to make the player leave the game, but he does it with the ones who have an easy name to remember and a few hundred hours in the game, random people with 1-10 hours doesn't peek his interest, so I got targeted by this dude. So I asked them if we can test something, so they unblocked him and we started a vs lobby, me with my friends obviously, and i'm sorry for the people who joined our team, but we were kicking them to see if R is 24/7 looking at my profile, and sure he was, because in the second chapter of No Mercy, he joined and tried to kick me but it got denied by my friends, he tried again asking why the rejected the vote, that I deserved to be kicked (we were survivors this round, and man, even the infected team stopped attacking to see what was going on lmao), and after a few insults towards me and my friends, he started to FF me to kill me, and the moment he did that, all 4 infecteds targeted him, it was glorious.
The problem is, that no one knows who R is, that was an alt account so nobody can find who he really is, but I did the same as everyone did, block and report, and that is the end of the story, thanks for reading.
Im betting everything that that man doesn't have a job
That ending is truly glorious. Oh my goodness I would have been dying if I was there to see it
What a freaking miserable guy to track you down for days
That guy seems like a stalker man, the other time we had to face him and you don't know how scared I was when everyone on the opposing team knew him and they all went after him, and he kept voting to kick us
Just have a macro that ddos him as soon as he joins, losers gotta get punished. It's not even trolling at that point
I remember two of my teammates were oh so desperately trying to vote kick another one of our teammates. Idk why, the teammate wasn't doing anything wrong.
But they kept spamming to kick that teammate over and over again, they legitimately probably initiated vote kick like 20 times, and I voted no every single time BC the teammate wasn't doing anything wrong, and least from what I could tell. Two checkmarks and two X's every single time.
Well I guess they figured out I wasn't going to budge, so they initiated a vote kick on me. And the idiot I WAS DEFENDING voted to kick me as well, 3 checks against one X.
I'm assuming they kicked him the second I was booted. Idiot deserved it at that point
That happened to me a couple times as well, I defend someone abunch of times and then when it's on me they don't have my back
Same experience
The average player IQ of this game must be around 80 at best.
He probably did think that you were one of the griefers. What a dumbass can't even read names.
Top 10 betrayers
I got kicked once because a new player was playing versus, so I didn't vote kill next round, I got kicked because I wanted the new player to have a decent experience
@@pantommyBro actually stfu, you left half a dozen comments here, and all of them are braindead lol
@@pantommy wtf are you talking about. this is such a garbage take, not even a single brain wave fired up when writing that shit
@@pantommy "oh no whys my game bleeding players and not getting new player base, it must be the new peoples fault of course" okay skinner.
@@pantommy "If Da OtHa TeEm Az DeM nEwByZ dEn IdC oNlY iF dEyZ oN uUuUh MyZ tEeMz DeN i CaRe"
@@pantommy the enemy team was casual, and they weren't good just the new player just got bad luck and the 2 other guys were toxic to everyone the enemy team wasn't good at the game either the one enemy who got the most damage was 424 damage, and most was from death charge they even got the achievement for death charge I believe
Makes me glad I was able to experience versus from 2012 to 2015 when the community was still wholesome, my condolences to those that have to deal with versus in its modern times on both pc and xbox, yall missed out
Oh yeah the good times. I could do whatever the hell i wanted as a kid and would not be kicked for anything.
I had the game since 2009, come at me boi
@fallenangel9398 so did I, just didn't bother with versus til later on, sorry to fracture that lil ego buddy, you're not special
@@IronSabbath666 the heck
I used to play from 2018 to till this day, but comparing those both times I will say it's basically impossible to play versus now
So this is what Tacobot members moved to after failing to ruin MvM in TF2
God, I would not be surprised if it was a coordinated effort to ruin the game at this point. What do the people who play this way (kicking people, always leaving when things inevitably don't go their way) even get out of the game?
@@borntopwnyou they probably get a kick out of being "so evil and chaotic"
XD
Getting kicked is also quite common on regular campaign servers, especially for three man teams.
Recently got kicked for shopping on the last chapter of Dead Center at the elevator section. It's insane how impatient people have gotten even when there's no competitive aspect.
@KawaiianArgument Yep, that's definitely right, I agree with you. Especially the part with versus, it gets REALLY annoying when your teammates go on every side quest possible instead of just trying to finish the map. But I personally thought it was probably fine as we just restarted after failing and all, and since it was the finale and specials spawn very rarely when you're still up at the top of the elevator. It's not like the walk to the elevator was that long as well. But I get what you're saying and understand the hate behind it and all.
@@KawaiiFemBoi Understandable, have a nice day.
this is why i stopped playing online and just play singleplayer custom campaigns, sometimes coop with a friend .... much more enjoyable and noone to hold me back because they don't know which end of the gun shoots bullets...
play better
"For shopping" what???
This is exactly why i got 1000 users in my steam block list
Steam's Steve Shives
That’s some massive dedication right there.
I salute your efforts
Bro got the whole player base blocked
low t betas block lol
I hear you
this is all IF you can even load into an ongoing vs match btw
Yeah before I started searching for “ only lobbies” it would say “ Change your name!” pretty often and kick me out of the loading screen
How to enjoy versus: host your dedicated server and give yourself kick immunity
We need to dissect a L4D2 player's brain because it's fascinating how these people have no basic concept of fun, it's all about numbers and points that keep them going, nothing else, not even food or love, they're completely soulless waste of oxygen.
You could say they're zombies... Hah, zombies, get it? Okay Imma go wash my mouth with soap
And its not like there is a k/d thing, stats recorded (technically) and what not.
And this is why I have a mod to play single player versus
I have mods enabled on solo versus too. I troll bots by playing Tank on God Mode with Speed Hacks. Or by playing an unkillable Boomer. You get the idea. Fun as hell.
@@itsjustredright...what you said wasn't fun
I have too its fun as hell then normal versus
It's more fun too when you installed trash talking special infected and played it on single player versus
Edit:turns out it doesn't work yeah I was high as hell when typing this
@@darkone5973 that’s what I did but mods won’t work on versus
If people try to kick you and you are in a round where you can jump off and die. Then do that so they dont get away with it easily
@@pantommyHonk, shoo, honk, shooo
@@pantommyratio
@@pantommy You have the exact attitude of people who wonder why no one likes them
Womp womp
@@pantommy Nah. Kickscum are subhuman. They're never good at the game and never know what they're doing, they get mad when you're better than them but they don't understand why. They want themselves and only themselves to have fun. Do everything in your power to ruin a kickscum's game, and life if applicable.
I feel like versus has became so toxic lately, 2 days ago me and my friends we were playing friendly match server with pubs , 3 cheaters joined and they started saying racist slurs and ruined the game by hacks , and yesterday i joined an random server just to be greeted by a furry who started accusing me of beginning a troll so i can get kicked like wtf man.
i think i know exactly which "furry" you're talking about...
The only reason to kick another player in this gamemode is if they have *absolutely* no idea what they’re doing or if they’re an asshole/cheater.
Sadly half the versus players are assholes so it tends to go the other way around. Even kicking people in lobbies if they don’t have 5k+ hours or if a friend wants to join. *It’s not like there’s a private lobby feature or anything so you’re not wasting another personal time when they join and wait in the lobby.*
Absolutely
Always remember, don't feel bad if your teammates for whatever reason decide to kick you.
Sure, you may or may not have played like trash, but the real pieces of trash are your so-called "teammates".
No hearts to break. Don't get upset and don't blame anyone else or yourself. It's simply that they didn't consider you to be worth keeping along. You would and should do the same for other weak links. It's a team game, meaning that you directly influence how much fun your team has.
Take the other perspective. Isn't it selfish for you to make the game worse for 3 other people only for you to enjoy messing around?
Getting kicked is a learning opportunity, reflect on the reason you got kicked and try to see if you can improve anything. And if there was no reason, simply asssume they either want to play with a friend or are probably bored assholes, no reason to get stuck on it just find another lobby.
You should kick and get kicked often. That's the way things are. Do everything you can to ensure there's no reason to get kicked, and then complain that you're being kicked (even though the assholes are doing you a favor not wasting your time trolling you, lmao)
@@pantommy "but you're supposed to get kicked and not have fun so you can learn this game's community is not about having fun but about getting the most kicks!!!!!1 😭😭😭😭😭😭😡😡"
@@laughingcat6540 it's really your loss if you give up, I used to enjoy the game without constantly getting kicked or having to kick noobs (because I could actually carry them most of the time since we also played against some noobs).
I really don't get your point. If you think it's fair for 3 average players to have a bad time just for 1 noobs to have his careless fun, I don't know what to tell you. Helping noobs is something good players do, but when the noobs are too hard to carry against better enemies, it stops being fun.
You're taking things solely from your perspective as the sandbag and not considering anyone else's. This is, quite literally, not teamwork or cooperation.
@@pantommy most new players understand how to play, they just don't know all instakills and infected strats, And the only way they will learn is if we actually let them play the game. Besides if anything the so called "good players" are the ones that tend to fuck up and leave because y'all don't understand that you need to check on your team and not rush in like an idiot.
@@pantommyI also wanted to argue that single noob doesn't ruin your fun, what ruins it is only wanting a perfect victory. Heck for us good players it should be a good challenge, right? So why not roll with it, what makes left4dead fun is those moments where everything goes to shit and you try your darn best to survive. And it's during this where you get the hard choice of either risking your life for a teammate or staying safe yourself. And if you survive with the odds stacked against you, thats when victory feels earned. And even if you didn't make it, there's always chapter 2-5 for a comeback.
This is why I play L4D on 360. Players actually get a chance to play. Sv_cheats is set to 1 on the retail release, so if someone comes in our games thinking they deserve to play more than someone else, they get escorted out of the game via a frozen screen. Now they all stay in private games, where they belong, away from the community that just wants to have fun and play the game, win or no win.
L4D2 Versus community makes Dead by Daylight’s community look like saints in comparison.
What is it with asymmetrical PvP horror games?
@@borntopwnyou Honestly I’ve had a theory for a while that the reason people are so entitled and awful in those games, is because they are very easy to get into. Anyone can be “good” with the right killer, the right builds. So they work themselves up to be better than they actually are, but I’ve seen countless times that when these players play games that actually take skill, they fumble hard.
That is true at least in dbd you can actually finish a match unlike a versus match in l4d buuuut dbd is easily more stale than l4d gameplay wise so it's only a matter of picking your poison with those two games
The second the game freezes and you can see the mouse cursor move before coming to an absolute halt because you’re filled with utter disappointment and sadness is so real
how to enjoy playing verus mode, simple just play with friends, never play with randoms.
My PC friends stopped playing the game because of the rage quits so I’ve just been playing solo. My only friends that still play the game are on Xbox
@@Himzeyy oh man I'm sorry.
Even better: Install the campaign versus mutation and competitive bots+ mod.
Teammates that actually help you, infected that actually dodge your attacts, pre aim and attack together. No kicks and the luxuary of pausing.
Those mods have made vanilla versus completely irrelevant in my eyes.
@@Himzeyy
I’ll play with ya on PC!
i know the feeling bro like whenever im doing versus i cannot see a time where there is no votekicks but sadly it happens. like man, damn i know i suck at the game, but lemme enjoy the game know mean? people are just obsessed with winning instead of having fun.
I don’t know what I hate more about this video. The random kick votes, or the trolls that try to team kill
That's why even with 1200 hours of Left 4 Dead experience, I can't play versus.
I picked up L4D2 again after watching youtubers like you. Reminded me of the good old days of pure fun. 1st lobby kicked me for not speaking spanish (I didn't talk on the mic/chat, but I understand spanish), got kicked a few times for being a "troll", and the few times I could play it was a 4v1 (I would stay but my random teammates would join for a min and then leave). I stopped playing after a few days and only watched L4D2 youtube videos
You can get some fun games but you gotta sit through the bullshit first
I’ve noticed almost every lobby I join now it’s mainly Spanish speakers. I always feel awkward bc I barely understand what they’re saying in chat. 😅
Peruanos
I got the same experience but not quite, a few years ago in team fortress 2. I didn't speak english very well back then, and these guys took notice of it. Not only did they told me they didn't want me in, but they also said a lot of mean thing. Luckily they said pretty much everything in voice chat so I didn't understand much. I think that was my last tf2 game lol
tell*
My first and only versus experience was a guy kept calling out every single thing I did wrong as an infected, like... EVERY. SINGLE. THING. I don't know if he was even playing or just observing my actions the whole time. He also typed all that in all chat. Nevertheless, I was kicked after I downed a survivor as jockey in spitter's acid
Bro think was Karate Kid's sensei
the noobs that kicks you for a ceiling pounce bruuh 😂😂😂😂
They were like Ceiling pounce is hacking lets kick him
Or maybe becuse you didnt follow the team attack they saw in youtube
@@carlogustavovalenzuelazepe5774 nah u just suck balls 😂😂😂😂, literally free 25 if it hit and u can't do shit if hit u hit that part if they already mil sniper 😂😂😂😂
@@Scampedits using the ceiling is a bug not intended, bug abusers are no different than cheaters, so deserved kick. if i wanted to play with cheaters and bug abuserse that when the witch spot go iddle etc etc i would use cheats my self as well so no, i want play a normal vanilla match with no bugs/exploits and no cheats. and when i want go serious i would go zonemod.
@@gabrielandy9272 i know its just what the players on their team are thinking
Imagine denying 7 other people a good game because you died once
Imagine 3 other people deny you a good game because they died once
Entitlement at its finest.
The problem is that the game is extremely snowball-y in the favor of the survivors. If you fail at getting any downs during the first spawn it becomes difficult to setup again since they'll just rush the map
@@Fanboy-hf1iu But that's still not a reason to stop everyone from playing?
I never thought of it that way hahaha
This has a og criken compilation feelings
It’s honestly become an inside joke with my group that whenever someone suggests l4d2 versus online we just laugh
It much worse in Asia with most of the lobbies are heavily modified CH servers LMAO
That's like most normal day in L4D2 versus.
Sometimes in campaign too. Can't even play campaign without joining the CH servers. I just want a vanilla game.
China modded server are the worst next to lewd4dead, it force me to restart whole game just to get rid of their nasty plugin addons
Just host local servers.
But since this video is about Versus, Asia has a few servers dedicated to bot versus.
It's better than nothing IMO.
So true.🤬
@@TakeshiMitsuhideSame I wonder who the hell made those moded servers and came up with the shtty ideas.
90% of versus players rage quit before they get the 25 pt tiebreaker
Let's add endless ddos attacks to the mix
It gets fixed within a few days just to come back a week later
@@Himzeyy Who do you think are causing it?
@@Fanboy-hf1iu I’ve heard that it’s a guy named jimmy that got hurt because he streamed himself joining streamers games and ruining it, and when people didn’t like him for it he started ddosing streamers and eventually everyone. I’ve also been told that someone created a lot of bots that join the game and leave to get the server info to ddos it. But idk if any of it’s true so don’t take my word on it
@@Himzeyy What is it about the design of Versus that makes rage quitting so rampant you think?
@@Himzeyy darksyne?
Server stability is maybe worse than before
But player toxicity is pretty much the same
I remember one time when I played, back in what... 2014 maybe, something like that
I got to spawn as a hunter, I hit a very big damage pounce, people got hyped. Then next time I spawned as a hunter, I missed the pounce and people called me a fa**ot in the chat, told me to uninstall the game, then just kicked me IMMEDIATELY lmao. I vividly remember that moment because it really left me questioning L4D2 playerbase. ANd that was 10 years ago haha
Jeez, if this is what playing L4D2 is like online i think I'll just stick to playing through campaigns with the offline bots. I doubt I'd be able to handle the toxicity and votekicks.
Best way to enjoy the game, in my opinion
This is mostly what versus is like, online campaign is pretty chill.
Not a single time have I touched online because of all this… and I’m the guy who lives under the rock from the first time hearing all that.
I wish Valve would just release a ranked mode so that all the sweaty nerds will stop hogging up the Versus servers and ruining the experience for everyone else.
1:23 “Bunga has solution”
•7 people kicked back to the lobby
•User named Rosa Parks joins
Welcome to playing source games in 2024
Vote to kick is the most toxic shit ever. Players don’t deserve that kind of control
versus is a get kicked simulator
less then 100 hours in the game-kick
no Russian-kick(at least for me sometimes)
too good of a infected player-kick(not for me but i saw some hunter doing dumb shit like himzey at 1:35 and the dude on my team got a 25 dmg pounce and after that his victim called a vote to kick him,ive seen this a lot even after a boomer boomed all survivors the boomer got kicked like wtf)
too good of a survivor player-kick(i bhoped on the second map dead center and got kicked,i shoved a jockey and then a hunter 10 seconds after and got kicked,i hope i have bad luck and not every lobby is like this)
too bad of a infected player-kick
too bad of a survivor player-kick
final thoughts : i love l4d2 versus 10/10 would lie again
Safe room rage quits are actually wild
At this point you NEED a group of friends to play with and agree before each match if ya want to play seriously to win or mess around and have fun just to be able to play versus. (Which is something I don't have unfortunately)
I used to be a jokester like you, until i found out i have none either
I'm actually thankful my friend group can often fill a 4v4. Playing with randoms is the most brain melting experience in any videogame!
Remember Unless The Servers Full Modders Can Still Join And Troll You
Ive played with that Doctatofen_115 guy on realism vs before, he switches teams so he doesnt lose and if you dont baby him or you trash talk him he will rage kick you and if it doesnt pass he griefs and leaves
1:04 Rochelle used Lag, it was 𝘝𝘦𝘳𝘺 efffective!
I feel like coach did that first one on accident because noskillch jumped on dead air and fell to his death on accident
He jumped XD
Sometimes when I’m guaranteed to get kick. I quickly leave the game. Change my name rejoin again and start trolling, by team killing, jumping off high places, and wasting items as survivor. As infected can’t really do much besides getting myself killed on purpose or not spawn.
If I get tank though I kill my infected teammates. Instead of the survivors then jump off a cliff or go in the opposite direction of the survivors.
This may make me sound worse than the vote kickers. I only do this if they kicked me for no reason. As shown in the video, and only mess with the team that kicked me.
Me: *Playing as infected*
Survivors: *Griefing each other in the saferoom*
Me: "X'D"
0:39 and the people who “troll” like that turn out to be racist themselves. Lol.
if there were ever a rage quitting competition, L4D2 players would be uncontested
this 9 minute video perfectly sums up l4d2 in a nutshell
The one that gets me is how frequintly people leave despite the game being near tie or not far behind. Or just outright leaving five seconds into the first chapter. Cheaters no longer phase me, if its entertaining enough ill stick around to watch the absurdity, bur usualy just leave.
Yeah I tried playing after I edited this video and the other team left over a 2 point lead
It's really not the end of the world considering how quick matchmaking is, same reason why kicking is blown out of proportions. You can find a new match in 15 seconds at most. Just play for fun.
Those people don't play for fun, they play only to win. It's honestly quite sad to see. I couldn't care less about the score, all that matters to me is whether or not I'm having a good time. Video games are a form of entertainment after all. It seems like people forget that they are playing a game, and start treating it like it's a chore.
I was just about to make a video about this as well because it’s almost as bad on the Xbox where people start to lose and spam restart chapter it’s so annoying
That's why I never touch versus unless I have few friends with me to prevent vote kicks lol it literally is unplayable.
l4d versus in 2024 is a closest thing to purgatory we'll ever get on earth
Feels like in most servers if you aren't in the top 10 speed runners and play absolutely perfectly on both sides your just Thanos snapped
One thing I found hilarious is that a lot of these people who vote kick you for the smallest of mistakes often make the same mistakes themselves, but of course it's not a problem when they do it
You know its bad when the host has to lag switch to make it a fair fight
Im surprised how this game is not dead yet people get mad or toxic for being on the losing team like you can still win if you try or they just leave, some people vote kick for doing nothing??
I know and it's fucking bad to play like that.
Thank you very much bro, I appreciate it
This is the main reason why I don't play versus there's no point playing this game mode. I might as well play with the bots instead of actual players
I started now playing heavy high pitch white noise whenever I get vote kicked without a reason. Make them regret ever doing it c:
Left 4 dead 2 players logic:
Playing better than them = Kicked By Console.
Winning = Leaving to shutdown the server.
Having fun = Teammates shit talking the whole game.
Afk for 0.1 sec = Kick.
Not saving your teammates in a 1v4 situation = Kick + block.
Sorry for the second comment, but at 3:52 the Ellis guy named Hiro. I met him him in a match before, except his name was "HiroProtagonist" Without the ". He was pretty much an asshole, kicked me later on after i rushed ahead to get as far as i could cause he tried to team kill me.
I don't play on public servers, I only play on the freiheit and aurora servers. The normality of these servers is that they ban cheaters, ban ruins, there is no ddos, etc. cool video, dude ^^
lately I haven't been lagging all day
8:02 This is how it feels to chew 5 gum.
How it gums to this five chew feels
i think when you got kicked and accused for being a troll and a racist, they were actually trying to kick that HS shot guy. I've played with him before and he is both of those things. I may or may not have trolled him back myself XD
I was expecting a detailed explanation but it turns out all I needed was a crowbcat style compilation
I love how the last stand update was massively catered towards Versus sweats and Versus is easily the most toxic game mode ever designed
First time I played co-op I was kicked because I ran out of ammo in my main gun and had to switch to my pistol
Vote kicking, lag and teamkilling have got to be the most annoying problems with Versus I faced. Once, the charger's hitbox glitched and I missed the survivor despite being so close to them, and guess what? That was an instant kick
I was about to do a insta kill on dead center while being a Charger but for some reason it stopped because I ran into a iron prop :D
I got vote kicked for saving my charger for an instakill😂
It made me sad when my L4D friends group drifted apart over time. It meant no more L4D2 versus, because I can't deal with this mess at all.
I'm an adult with things to do and only so many hours a week for gaming, and I refuse to waste them on nonsense like this, when plenty of other communities have far less toxicity.
I’m in the same boat brother
it was unplayable when it first came out too.. all of these events you showed happened 10x more. especially getting kicked by random people with mic's for no reason. made them feel good. oh dont forget the restart vote on finale always a classic.
Damn I didn't know how far this game has fallen i mean fuck man being kicked because you don't cheat or mod to hurt other players is insane
1:40 i'd vote kick for that too
One of the main reasons I stopped playing L4D2. I loved playing versus but the amount of times people would leave just because of a small mistake is insane. A missed charge, failed push, and a non charger infected spawn shouldn't be enough to leave but some people do. Hell I've had people leave/kick because someone was using "The wrong gun". It's a game with absolutely zero consequences for losing a match. At some point I even opted to play B4B because at least if someone joined your game, the most of your worries would be general incompetence. L4D will always be better than B4B but some of the members of the community make the games more of a preference pick than a one sided argument.
6:56 yooo OldFishPool is the dude who made that hunter animation about him findin the gmod tool gun
Tried console left4dead2 2 days ago and my first match was toxic out the ass with a guy on the other team giving me a 2ez message after getting to the saferoom like i cared and was just trying to play for fun but bro insisted on continuing to be toxic to me for no reason, some people are just sad individuals
4:15 The timing of you joining in too see them selling, is the most funniest shit i've ever seen.
literally all my games are either shitty modded servers or I get rage players who throw a fit at any slight inconvenience, the game has gone on too long to be ruined by shitty people
A sollution for the DDOS is to host dedicated servers/steam group servers, which doesn't have complicated setup that steam sale players can't figure out and isn't modded), as for the community I would recommend just adding regular versus players you come across whether they're toxic or not since the versus playerbase is so small nowadays so you'll have people to join off/or they join off you which in my experience is pretty consistent
0:38 Getting kicked because you're a "troll and a racist" is craazy. As if that isn't the general Versus population. Not saying that's a good thing! it's just something you learn about two games into the gamemode.
This entire video just pisses me off. Not that its a bad video, just that these situations are so stupid. Trolls suck.
Amen brother
You miss one charge and you get kicked
You miss one pounce and you get kicked
You you miss one jockey lunge and you get called 5 different racial slurs in one sentence
What about tons of modded servers which are unplayable because of perks, weapon chooses etc.? It's getting too hard to find simple vanilla versus
My solution to that is to set my search filter to only lobbies or to host my own game
@@Himzeyy Hope once I could play with ya
Yea it ruined the game with the modded bs. I wont play it, not even the same game at that point
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There are servers dedicated to just bot versus here in Asia.
I've never been able to play versus outside of those servers.
My first actual experience was just the survivors camping outside the safehouse for over 20 minutes.
Haven’t played since 2015. Doesn’t seem that I am missing much.
Rampant votekicking?? Thats not changed one bit. It's actually what made me never want to solo queue in any game ever again, ever, because I kept getting kicked and it really rubbed me the wrong way
I think your best bet at getting a good L4D2 experience in 2024, is to just sit idle in the menus, listening to the various tracks playing in the background😅.
The theme song is so fitting for this trope
The gatekeeping, shit community, and constant kicking are the reasons why I stay the hell away from versus games. I have 94/101 achievements and over 1.3k hours, and I simply can't be bothered to get the versus and scavenge ones.
There’s no way you constantly get kick without you having done something wrong 😑
@@paradise5534 Yeah, breathing.
1:40 broke my heart :(
What a great community
The nicest community ever
Jeez i thought tf2 was bad..
I’m just tired of being vote kicked by a 3 stack when I’m just trying to play casually
6:17 I dissociate myself from the Coach nickname
i played on the Error Servers. They asked me, to make space for another dude. I asked why and they told me "he is our friend and we wanted to play together" than they discussed about kicking me. I got kicked during the gaming for something and now i am banned.
Modded lobbies, DDoS attacks, rage quitting players and the occasional good lobby
versus became versus your teammates, rather than the other team
Himzzy my boy!
Agreed
Also that was me at 1:45. They saved me🙏🏼
I love how people say oh vs players will kick you for the smallest mistake when that hasnt been true since launch. 9/10 times you did nothing wrong. Youre just unlucky that most vs players are actually in a constant state of psychosis and dementia, no better than the rage filled zombies in game. A butterfly flaps its wings in brazil and 30 people get kicked at once, crashing 12 different servers. God bless this mess.
No matter how good you are, you will inevitably get vote kicked out of a lobby at some point. Everyone is constantly on edge, and if you make even the smallest mistake, these brain rotted competitive players will take that as a personal attack. The only way for you to not get kicked is if you are literally a mind reader and can see their thoughts. Communication is key, but these types of players kick first and ask questions never.