308 v 223 in a Limited distance ERL shoot

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  • Опубліковано 17 лис 2024

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  • @sjohnson1776
    @sjohnson1776 3 роки тому +65

    You guys make that look a heck of a lot easier than it really is. Well done!!! Thanks!!

  • @craigmandall9420
    @craigmandall9420 3 роки тому +42

    Now that I've finally pushed out to 1000 yards i am even more impressed with your skills. I shoot at a target roughly 6 feet by 3 feet and here you guys are shooting at that tiny target. Very impressive effort

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +4

      Well done, and glad you liked, Cheers

    • @dexadrinepancake
      @dexadrinepancake 2 роки тому +3

      The plate is about the size of the V bull so it's like my thinking that if it isn't a V it's a miss. I'm more impressed that the 223 was not only reaching the target but actually hitting it.

  • @martiusgrobler1258
    @martiusgrobler1258 9 місяців тому +5

    Awesome video guys, you have really motivated me into the ELR arena.
    When those 223 hits were achieved I was elated at the possibilities. WOW, Well done!

  • @ProbablyTooLoud
    @ProbablyTooLoud 3 роки тому +10

    The trend has been toward shorter barrels and lighter chassis, stocks, etc. You demonstrate how to maximize a particular cartridge at distance. Very well done !

  • @rationalmind6362
    @rationalmind6362 3 роки тому +20

    Great shooting guys. I hope the long range hunters watch this and understand how hard it is to hit a 6"×6" area even with some of the best equipment, handloads, and I would say two of the most competent shooters out there today. I love the 308. The stock, fluted barrel, brake, bipod, scope. Everything about that rifle just flows together. Great looking rifle. 👍

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +4

      Yes, would be real easy to miss 5 times, lol, glad you liked, Cheers

  • @stevejoubs
    @stevejoubs 3 роки тому +9

    Good on you Sam, it's nice to see you shooting. Judging by your skill you do a lot more shooting than what we see. The teamwork between you both is heart warming.

  • @cayminlast
    @cayminlast Рік тому +7

    Excellent shooting. I shot a lot of 308 (7.62 x 51) with an FN-FAL during my military service, i got myself a Savage chambered in .223 a good few years ago which exceeded my expectations and is so much more enjoyable to shoot and very accurate.

  • @finaloption...
    @finaloption... 3 роки тому +11

    I've been wanting to see the .223 reach. Nice!

  • @EverydayPeople744
    @EverydayPeople744 3 роки тому +3

    The both of you are so much fun to watch. Tell my friends to watch all the time. Keep it going.

  • @waterishdrake8693
    @waterishdrake8693 7 місяців тому +1

    For two people to be confident enough at that range to keep a camera that close in cold bore! Is simply awesome

  • @billy19461
    @billy19461 3 роки тому +18

    Loved this one! My wife and I used to shoot a 22 or at pennies and she would beat me every time. That was in 1970.

  • @lawrenceebare4794
    @lawrenceebare4794 2 місяці тому

    Always enjoy watching the two of you. Thank you

  • @jasonbarnes6717
    @jasonbarnes6717 3 роки тому +4

    Wow, Nice shooting. Great to see those two calibers in action. Very impressive set ups and skills 💯

  • @Happy-Trails-To-You
    @Happy-Trails-To-You 3 роки тому +7

    I am amazed at the performance of the .223. Nice job Sam.

  • @ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093
    @ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 3 роки тому +1

    Lots of fun for sure. Like the format for this video. Duelling calibers.

  • @MrJuice315
    @MrJuice315 3 роки тому +6

    People always underestimate the mighty little .223 as a long range target round.

  • @ccaire
    @ccaire 2 роки тому +2

    Really enjoying this video format of seeing both Mark and Sam shooting and spotting! Wishing you guys all the best in 2022!

  • @TheSaintsAdvantage
    @TheSaintsAdvantage 5 місяців тому +4

    Just this week I had opportunity to shoot my
    223 handloads out to 1100 yards. 77gr SMK over Varget 2575fps. ~8mph 270° wind.
    What I learned (some of which I knew but hadn't experienced)..
    1. At these longer distances WIND reading is a must
    2. At these longer distances velocity helps big time
    3. 223 at distance drops BIGTIME
    200,300,400,500 VERY easy...
    1100 VERY hard. 20 shots at 1100 with 4 impacts and 7 close (couple feet). 9 shots no visual

  • @SGTvolcan
    @SGTvolcan 3 роки тому +9

    I like how the .223 just shakes the target upon impact. Where as the .308 causes the target to walk back. That really shows the effectiveness of the heavier bullets once they slow down to subsonic speed compared to the lighter ones.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +2

      Yep, Cheers

    • @farmerbrown84
      @farmerbrown84 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, spotting bullet strike is a BIG problem, especially as you get to longer range. That’s what really makes it hard with the lighter calibres.

    • @sorshiaemms5959
      @sorshiaemms5959 3 роки тому +1

      ill take the 308 any day

  • @kcrowl1
    @kcrowl1 3 роки тому +3

    Great shooting!!! You guys make it look so easy. Thanks for the fantastic video!!!

  • @6.5grendel11
    @6.5grendel11 3 роки тому +1

    Good video 👍👍, Thanks Mark , Sam!!

  • @lancer2204
    @lancer2204 3 роки тому +3

    "Yeah, I can do that! Too easy!"
    Damn, nice shooting! I wish I was that good. Best I ever did was a 94, small bore (.22LR) target 20m prone.

  • @Fudmottin
    @Fudmottin 3 роки тому +4

    I did not know the 223 carried enough energy at over 1000 yards to flip a plate like that! Fantastic shooting on both counts!

    • @ImNoBSING
      @ImNoBSING 3 роки тому

      Guessing 1/4" / 6mm plate since it is so far away, the projectiles are less powerful than handgun ammo. At 770yds 77smk hardly does any trick to my 1/2" / 12mm plate.
      Smart move to ease spotting the impacts with the 223.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +2

      Cheers Man, Thanks

  • @WalterWhite-gw3vm
    @WalterWhite-gw3vm 3 роки тому +1

    My 223rem Tikka just got sent off Thursday to get my new proof barrel installed, only been waiting 11 months for it to come in but hopefully by next weekend I can go figure out a load for it. Mark and Sam as always, love the vid🤙

  • @mattrychlik2152
    @mattrychlik2152 Рік тому +2

    Awesome shooting Sam ! 👍🏼. Its always great to see you on the rifle sending some rounds down range.

  • @miccorockstar1
    @miccorockstar1 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks again guys, you always get me keeeeen to go shoot.

  • @GTMGunTotinMinnesotan
    @GTMGunTotinMinnesotan 3 роки тому +1

    Holy Crap man. Well done Sam, and you too Mark. Fun stuff.

  • @CHenry1951
    @CHenry1951 3 роки тому +1

    Mark & Sam, great shooting ..........Outstanding !!

  • @greghart6310
    @greghart6310 3 роки тому +1

    Great shooting! Good to see Sam having a go

  • @GRT1865
    @GRT1865 3 роки тому +1

    These videos are very easy to watch, enjoyable, informative and very entertaining.
    Stay safe. Take care. Have fun. 😎

  • @Justgetoutthere2
    @Justgetoutthere2 3 роки тому +1

    Well done guys some great shooting as normal.

  • @jeffreykoon2184
    @jeffreykoon2184 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent! Nice shooting by both of you. Find it interesting that your MOA's were almost identical verti and identical wind. Thank you for this.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +1

      Yep, set up like these they have almost identical scope settings, Cheers

  • @raudelcontreras2102
    @raudelcontreras2102 Рік тому +1

    Mark/Sam.
    GREAT SHOOTING .
    Bit Most Important Great Partner Shop...
    Keep on Rocking !!!

  • @TheL4ysp
    @TheL4ysp 3 роки тому +1

    great video as always. well done both

  • @rocketkat1665
    @rocketkat1665 4 місяці тому +1

    Nicely done

  • @markduncan7638
    @markduncan7638 3 роки тому +3

    Have shot my .223 1:8 with 80.5gr projectiles out to 800 yards very accurately, lots of fun.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +1

      Cheers

    • @TheSaintsAdvantage
      @TheSaintsAdvantage 5 місяців тому +2

      As a new shooter all I heard was .223 was only good out to 500 (ish) yards. I agree with you...800 yards is doable for sure...maybe not ideal..but certainly doable

  • @kylemartin832
    @kylemartin832 Рік тому +2

    Its amazing what you can do with the little tiny .223 cartridge. Same goes for the short stubby .308 👍🙏✌

  • @1776vtgmb
    @1776vtgmb 3 роки тому +1

    Great pick of calibers! Lots of people will enjoy this..... WillyB ps. Great shooting, Sam!!!

  • @richardoliver1468
    @richardoliver1468 Рік тому +1

    Great video comparison of the 223 vs. 308. Sam did a great job with getting a hit on her first shot. She seems like she would be a challenger in a long range competition. The entire target and stand moving from the impact of the 308 was pure awesomeness. Job well done.

  • @jaycee30865
    @jaycee30865 Рік тому +1

    Bless Sam’s heart. She is up there with you through and through pal. Don’t ever let her down.

  • @thomasdaum1927
    @thomasdaum1927 2 роки тому +1

    Didn’t realize a 1 in 8 twist would stabilize an 80 gr bullet ! Thanks .

  • @majormitchell01
    @majormitchell01 3 місяці тому

    That’s so freakin awesome. You guys Rock.

  • @nunayobusiness3384
    @nunayobusiness3384 Рік тому +1

    Always say “you two impress me with not only your skills, but they love and respect you have not only for one another but when you have your (take on event videos) towards others.” God did let Paul and the others to think of others above themselves and you are a good example of that teaching.

  • @altruisticscoundrel
    @altruisticscoundrel 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, what a team!

  • @joe74ta1
    @joe74ta1 3 роки тому

    Very well done Sam you look so much more relaxed behind the gun these days You realy gave Mark a run for his money today

  • @eaglewindrider7700
    @eaglewindrider7700 3 роки тому +2

    Really enjoy your vids informative and impressive 👍🔥🦅

  • @alvarofonseca7313
    @alvarofonseca7313 3 роки тому +2

    Hi, the best of best, very highly appreciated and recommend, texas, usa, thanks...

  • @fast1500mtrs
    @fast1500mtrs Місяць тому +1

    All of your videos are awesome. Real masters at your craft. But I really liked seeing the rifle/optic/ammo details at the beginning of this one. If ya all use such equipment, I can consider it good enough for me without hours of homework 😏

  • @mattsimmons3259
    @mattsimmons3259 3 роки тому +1

    Good shooting Sam

  • @bentaylor4845
    @bentaylor4845 3 роки тому

    Just awesome you guys make it look too easy

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +1

      Practise Ben, all about practise, Cheers

    • @bentaylor4845
      @bentaylor4845 3 роки тому +1

      @@markandsamafterwork you're exactly right and I'd like to send you pictures of my 22 and my new AR platform in 223 Wiley

  • @lovetoflylovetofly3843
    @lovetoflylovetofly3843 3 роки тому

    Nice job you two!!

  • @nogginthenogg1690
    @nogginthenogg1690 2 роки тому +1

    Amazed that you could push a .223 /5.56 round, that far ! Ok The Sako Varminter is an awesome rifle, irrespective of caliber, most people will be using the m 16 types, and then the accuracy drops, in the average shooter to 400 - 500 yards ! Well Done, especially on such a blustery day !

  • @pablosuarez4592
    @pablosuarez4592 2 місяці тому

    OUTSTANDING ❤

  • @therighttoolcompany868
    @therighttoolcompany868 3 роки тому

    I think Sam is the winner! Good job. You are both good shots!

  • @terrybagatella3898
    @terrybagatella3898 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing.!!

  • @timrink256
    @timrink256 3 роки тому

    Great shooting. I'm still a big fan of both the 223 and 308. Be Safe.

  • @jerrygoldfuss466
    @jerrygoldfuss466 3 роки тому

    Great shooting !

  • @essayonsprecision6422
    @essayonsprecision6422 3 роки тому

    Great video as always

  • @josedarguzis716
    @josedarguzis716 3 роки тому

    Que belleza de disparos. Felicidades. Saludos desde Argentina

  • @amirdzaferovic3489
    @amirdzaferovic3489 3 роки тому

    Great Video 👍🏻

  • @jdmbraceyourself695
    @jdmbraceyourself695 2 роки тому

    Great video

  • @briancullen5183
    @briancullen5183 3 роки тому

    Nice shooting. I wish I had the room to try that.

  • @simon6ppc246
    @simon6ppc246 3 роки тому

    Brilliant shooting by both but i have to say especially Sam with the 223 😉

  • @paststeve1
    @paststeve1 3 роки тому

    What's more fun than that!? Good shooting guys! Thanks!

  • @katashi222
    @katashi222 3 роки тому

    Wicked shooting!!!💯

  • @aussiesteveakastevecallagh2280
    @aussiesteveakastevecallagh2280 3 роки тому

    Nice shooting Mate , Steve

  • @rtpickett
    @rtpickett 3 роки тому +1

    y'all made that look like child's play. Darn good shooting guys!

  • @michaelreed1380
    @michaelreed1380 3 роки тому

    Just as fun as the big rifles. Nice shooting guys, cheers!

  • @madbulgarian
    @madbulgarian 3 роки тому

    Good stuff. Very impressed with the performance on the .223 Rem. I think when the 22" 1:9 barrel on my .223 goes I'll move to 1:8

  • @redleg1013
    @redleg1013 3 роки тому +1

    Makes F/TR look a little better

  • @shanegibb997
    @shanegibb997 3 роки тому

    Good old 223 ... good video Mark & Sam ...

  • @scottjacobs7341
    @scottjacobs7341 3 роки тому

    Nice shooting !!

  • @brettkoski
    @brettkoski 3 роки тому +1

    Six by Six at nearly 1100 yards with two underrated cartridges (for this range)... Great shooting by the best team out there, thanks for this!
    Just out of curiosity (I haven't read through the comments yet to see if it's answered already), do you think the 175gr .308 would do better out of a faster twist barrel?
    It's so much fun watching you two work together, thank you for putting the extra effort into sharing all of this with us!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому

      Thanks Brett, and better, no, but can run in faster for sure, Cheers

  • @davidhandyman7571
    @davidhandyman7571 3 роки тому

    Fine shooting Sam, Mark will have to look out or you will be the lead shoot. Excellent shooting both of you.

  • @marw1920
    @marw1920 3 роки тому

    Your Marksmanship is always impressive, but watch out cause Sam's a grass cutter. Great fun to watch you two compete with one another. Keep the ELR videos coming - we support you!

  • @ericbennett1253
    @ericbennett1253 3 роки тому

    Somehow this was more impressive than the the big-cal ELR stuff. Ha ha. I guess it's just more relatable. I'd be lucky to get 2/5 on a 12inch. Nice work guys!

  • @DanielBoone337
    @DanielBoone337 3 роки тому

    Good shooting and great video as always keepem coming guys!!!

  • @wolverinekut
    @wolverinekut 3 роки тому

    Thank you Sir for. 308 🔥👍💯

  • @richc767
    @richc767 3 роки тому

    Nice shooting

  • @JimmyGunXD556
    @JimmyGunXD556 3 роки тому

    I love watching.223 & .308 I know its crap but such a common round for other rifles in the combat realm.

  • @brandonparrett2436
    @brandonparrett2436 3 роки тому +1

    Folks don’t let the dang weather keep them from shooting. Guess I need not stress the west Texas wind so much

  • @MJPilote
    @MJPilote 3 роки тому +1

    Just wow, that's roughly 155mm target. And it feels hard even at 300m with 22lr

  • @RockSolitude
    @RockSolitude Місяць тому

    I remember when they used to call "limited distance ELR" just "long range"

  • @wm.traynor1143
    @wm.traynor1143 3 роки тому +2

    By shooting from the top of that hill, the wind deflection would be at its greatest. Was that deliberate?😊 Surprised to see the very good MV of the 223 with that barrel length.👍

  • @chrislang5659
    @chrislang5659 3 роки тому

    love it!

  • @snake57
    @snake57 3 роки тому

    Always entertaining 👍

  • @randysmith8604
    @randysmith8604 3 роки тому

    Looks so fun. I wish we could get ammo to go play. I have to spare what I have.

  • @chase7354
    @chase7354 3 роки тому +1

    can you do 243 vs 6mm creedmoor battle of the 6mm old vs new great video as always

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +1

      Well really very little difference, as explained in past video, more about all the other details, Cheers

  • @wiggyb854
    @wiggyb854 3 роки тому

    Should shoot a 22-250 as well, basically a 223 with a 308 case as a middle ground comparison. Just a thought. Cheers

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому

      We have videos on the channel of shooting our 22-250.... Cheers

  • @calebw7177
    @calebw7177 Рік тому

    Hello! I’m actually considering building my wife a .223AI. Any thoughts on the cartridge, or should I just stick with .223? As always thanks for the excellent content and the best ELR channel on UA-cam!

  • @janne65olsson
    @janne65olsson 3 роки тому

    Nice to see ,308 on that distance. Good handeling ther mate!
    I wonder how mush hold over is needed to reash that far out?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +2

      No hold over, but dialed scope setting written in the front of the video, Cheers

    • @janne65olsson
      @janne65olsson 3 роки тому +1

      @@markandsamafterwork
      Thanks for answering. 😃👍
      I were not seeing the dialing info.... 🤔 So there for i were asking. I will check the video again.

  • @stevewhite4392
    @stevewhite4392 3 роки тому

    Put that 80.5 in a .22-250 and see how hard it hits... Well done!

  • @sampink2273
    @sampink2273 2 роки тому

    Impressive shooting! What muzzle break are you using on the
    .308?

  • @poormiserablesinner4600
    @poormiserablesinner4600 3 роки тому +3

    Question Mark, you guys are always shooting down hill. Does gravity have an effect on BULLET trajectory. Maybe you can do a talk about that subject. Thanks Dan

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/RJgjQnb_qCE/v-deo.html

    • @poormiserablesinner4600
      @poormiserablesinner4600 3 роки тому +1

      Don't know how I missed the episode, I have been subscribe for well over a year. Ok, doesn't make a difference. 👍

  • @JohnJohnson-bg2oo
    @JohnJohnson-bg2oo 2 роки тому

    Have to load the. 223 heavy just to reach out that far, and have any kind of accuracy. Nice shooting.

  • @MrShekii
    @MrShekii 11 місяців тому

    What compensator do you have on your 308win? It looks like do a great job there

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  11 місяців тому +1

      3 port 4AW muzzle brake

    • @MrShekii
      @MrShekii 11 місяців тому +1

      @@markandsamafterwork is it so effective like on the movie where looks like blocked 90% or even more of recoil?

  • @ShooterB1
    @ShooterB1 3 роки тому

    Good shooting! Now what did she win!?

  • @MichaelGonthier-s1p
    @MichaelGonthier-s1p 9 місяців тому

    I consider you both to be "shooters-elite"
    Unbelievable at your short range of 1000+ yards ... 🎯

  • @user-td1zo3tv9p
    @user-td1zo3tv9p 3 роки тому

    Excellent shooting, Sir, and Excellent spotting, Ma'am!
    A question about your stand if I may.
    Have you ever posted plans and/or construction on your target frame for your hanging targets? I'd be keen to fabricate one or two for myself and shooting friends when we go out. I'm pretty sure I can find suitable target materials locally, assuming it is a lighter weight (i.e. thinner AR500 plate considering the ranges being fired from).
    You make me aspire to being a better long distance shooter whenever I watch your videos.
    Thank you for your time and efforts.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому

      We have several videos on the channel on a targets, Search "TARGET" Cheers

  • @Lucysdad66
    @Lucysdad66 6 місяців тому

    I got the sako 75 in 223 with a factory set trigger and it also likes the 80gr but not familiar with your powder mine likes H335 shots .3 + -