Cioks DC7 - The Most Powerful Pedal Power Supply in the World?
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2019
- I've been a big fan of Cioks power supplies for years now, so it was a real treat getting to sit down and nerd out about the new Cioks DC7 with my good friend Christian from Cioks.
This fully isolated power supply uses refined switch-mode technology to give you 7 dedicated outlets with up to 660mA each, plus a USB out and a 24v auxiliary out for extension modules, making the DC7 the perfect choice as the core fuel provider for your pedalboard setups.
In this video we get nerdy about all the DC7's amazing tech specs, but we of course also hook a ton of pedals up to this beast and unleash some crazy futuristic soundscapes.
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Guitars and Apps used:
Squier J.Mascis Jazzmaster
Bloom: 10 World app for iPhone
Pedals used:
Cioks DC7 - thepedalzone.com/dc-7/
Meris Polymoon - thepedalzone.com/polymoon/
Meris Mercury7 - thepedalzone.com/mercury7/
EarthQuaker Devices Avalanche Run - thepedalzone.com/avalanche-run/
EarthQuaker Devices Pyramids - thepedalzone.com/pyramids/
Old Blood Noise Endeavors Dark Star - thepedalzone.com/dark-star/
Empress EchoSystem
Revv G3
Maxon OD808x
J.Rockett Majestic
Hologram Electronics Infinite Jets
Amps used:
Fender Deluxe Reverb 65 RI mic'd with an Aston Spirit
This video was huge years later! Saved me the extra funds of not having to also buy a Cioks 4ce along with a DC7 purchase. Didn't realize how many pedals a single DC7 could power! Way beyond 7 pedals! Good to know I could most likely power 11-12 pedals off of that alone! Heck yeah
Love my DC7! Cleaned up my sound more than I imagined, and with it being expandable...it's like the gift that keeps on giving.
Oh, man! This is what I like to hear. So cool that you could feel and hear an immediate effect on your sound after getting this great PSU 👌
I felt so old when I got excited about a power supply, but it has to be the most underrated tool in a musician's box. I can't even imagine what it would take to get this machine to overload. Always appreciate the recommendations, sir!
I could have listened to a couple of hours worth of that pile of pedals... superb.
Now my power supply is feeling inadequate.
Happy to hear you had a good time watching the video 😊
Yes! Love the DC7! And the DC4 in fact. For me, I’ve got the 7 powering the 4 for all 8 (technically 9, but that last one is my LR Baggs Para DI) power hungry pedals (mostly all 9v except for one 12 or 18v I believe). Although, thinking back now after watching this, I could’ve just daisy chained one of the DC7 outs for that 8th 9v pedal. Oh well. Anyhow…even with the additional power supply, I still haven’t heard any noise whatsoever. 👍🏽 totally glad I found CIOKS and am currently planning on getting the 7 for my wife’s soon to be put together pedalboard. Also…really liked the soundscape you randomly put together. 👍🏽
Im using the DC-7 with vintage Boss pedals that require 12v. I have a 80s Mesa Boogie 50 Caliber+ 1x12 combo and the entire pedal board is going into the front end. I can use 2, yes.. TWO overdrive pedals into the dirt channel and there is ZERO noise!! Absolutely unheard of with a vintage Mesa amp!!! F^^CKING AWESOME
I was in the market for another power supply and went back to this video. I just purchased the red DC7 from Gear Hero. Great video and review!
Awesome so helpful, yeah I've been using cheap power supplies! It's perfect timing,
I've been contemplating what power supply to get, well here it is! I will be getting one.
I noticed you have the Brian Eno app, not surprised. Also, I have 4 of the pedals you've got in this demo,
and three of them are because of your previous demos. wait add one more the Cioks DC7, love the size, the power and flexibility. Super fair price for such a high quality product. Once again great demo Stefan
Another great demo. And you can tell these two lads hit the pubs together. Great camaraderie.
Thank you very much, man! Haha, yeah, me and Christian have had our share of brews together.... Been too long since the last time though. Need to change that. He's a wonderful dude ☺
I recently redid my pedalboard and my pedal guy was like:" Hey, we just got this new power supply, want to check it out?"
So happy I did! Super easy to shape this power supply to your needs and the board (10 pedals) is dead silent!! And I never ever have to worry about having to sell it because I can just expand on it later. And all of this awesomeness packed in to a super light and compact package. They really did knock it out of the park in this one.
Thanks for the great content, as always =]
Great pedal in setup, Love music, dc7 super, my next destination with power. thx!
Amazing! Thanks for the video guy's!
Happy you enjoyed it, dude! 😊
I loved the demo but I subscribed for the Blade Runner monologue
Rad! Thanks for subscribing. Means a lot 🙏
It's pretty impressive that you daisy chained that many digital pedals together on various outlets and didn't have noise problems.
That’s because it’s a pretty impressive power supply. Best one out there 😊👍
@@thepedalzone Yeah I've been pretty adverse to doing that in the past. Things are improving!
Going to get one RIGHT NOW!
Awesome!! You won’t regret that decision 😊👍
Damn, well I’m sold! First time I’ve been excited by a power supply :)
But also, how were you daisy chaining multiple pedals from the same output? I would have expected a bit of noise from that, but still dead silent.
I was literally thinking about buying a new powersupply and you post a video about it.
Sounds like a sign to me. Fate. Kismet. Call it what you want. You need some CIOKS in your life 😊👍
You Sold me... EXCELLENT!!!!!!
That’s awesome. Happy you liked it. DC7 is a killer unit. All I use 👌
Great video
Thank you very much 😊🙏
I own three different cioks PS, each for a different rig, & they're so solid of a product! Glad to see these power generators getting better by the day, will have to upgrade when my current ones die. (Might be a long while :P)
If you're using CIOKS already, then it probably won't die. They have one of the lowest failure rates in the game 😊
That was a legit postrock jam
Thanks 👍
This is great! After a couple of years buying pedals i was having noises issues. Someone recommended me the Dc7. I ordered one last week, and i am so happy to see, i it looks like i made a good choice 😁. Thanks for the demo ☀️🙏
Oh you definitely made a good choice. You actually made the best choice. The DC7 is just phenomenal 😊
@@thepedalzone i've never thought being so excited about a power supply 🙃
@@thepedalzone how about dc10 ? Do you recommend for it.i was Thinking if it really good or not.
Yep I'm buying this 👍
Awesome!! You’re gonna love it 👍
Hmm, I have been looking for a new power supply, my iso 5 is kinda noisey. Maybe this! I like that you can sculpt the outputs to your voltage needs.
Buddy! Definitely consider CIOKS. You won't get noise issues with this thing. It's just super quiet and crazy powerful. And yes, it's such a great feature that you can sculpt each output to your needs. Hope you're doing good, my friend, and I hope you enjoyed Synthreactor 19. Thomann is quite the experience ☺
I recently sold my Strymon power supplies and I am looking for a new one... this looks fantastic.Thanks dude!
What was wrong with them ?
Por favor! Pongan traducción al español! Está excelente el canal 😉
seven outlets at 660mA is quite up there! Very good - would like to know the heat issues, though - if it heats up too much. But an excellent power source!
I haven't experienced any heat issues at all. CIOKS has one of the lowest failure rates in the PSU game. So expect to get a product that will last forever if you buy in on their gear 😊👍
I appreciate the Blade Runner outtakes 😂
Hi! great video and great supply. Is there any interference when using your phone near the dc7? thanks!
Nice. Can I use the 24V out to power an old large box EHX polychorus?
5:38
What cable would you use to connect a pedal to the aux 24V outlet?
"This video will contain a lot of pedals"
"Well then, this subscriber will like the video immediately"
Who doesn’t like a lot of pedals?! 😊
It's good, but for my needs, I favour the Strymon Ojai/Zuma modular system. Just got an Ojai today!
No denying the power of Cioks, tho!
Hey - first! Cool
CIOKS DC7 allows for modular expansion as well and is undeniably more powerful mA-wise. But sure, Strymon is a super solid choice as well. Congrats on being first 👍
Cioks makes awesome stuff, I had a DC10 for a while and I am currently using a TC10 and schizophrenic
Awesome to hear you're enjoying their gear. It's good stuff!
Do you recommend for Dc10? For now i'm not Sure which power supply i should buy.
This looks amazing! I might end up getting one of these to replace *two* Voodoo Labs bricks. (This might also get my board under weight for flights!).
Next challenge, Cioks team: Mission Engineering’s 529, which is absolutely amazing for a small board (I can power four pedals off a phone charger usb stick for an hour plus). It’s such a cool device and means I can busk without power (or when I sit in for a song in someone else’s band). Can you make something similar that will accept variable voltage? For my acoustic rig I’d love to use the Headway EDB-2 preamp but it needs 18V and too much current for the 529.
Happy you dig the DC7. I highly recommend you get one 👍 And CIOKS are already working on the product you're hoping to see. It's called the CIOKS 4. It'll hopefully be available later this year. You can read about it here: cioks.com/products/cioks-4/
There is a 529i as well. 8 outputs but it needs 12V 1A in. The 529 needs 5V 1A.
They already solved your challenge. It’s called the Cioks4
Terrific He-Man skit 👌🏻
Hey. I had to 😊🙌
Hi Stefan, I want to upgrade from my old but trusty Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2 and am debating between the Cioks DC7 and the Strymon Zuma. May I ask, does the DC7 power your Maxon PAC-9 pedal alright? My PAC-9 won't start up with my Pedal Power 2 (I think it's due to the internal charge pump that requires extra mA at start up). Thanks!
For once, I bought the thing PRIOR to your demo! 😎 I’d imagine that folks like The GigRig must be sweating slightly - their power system looks even more ridiculously overpriced now...
Happy to hear you already have one. It's a killer piece of gear!
Awesome!! 1 ?... Does the Grip come with the DC7?
Thanks! No, I'm pretty sure it's sold separately
Wouldn't the CIOKS Overkill probably be the most powerful? Great demo!
Actually not. They pack very much close to the same amount of power, but the DC7 delivers it all in probably a tenth of the size 😊On top of that they don't produce the Overkill anymore.
@@thepedalzone That this was insane! Being able to link them to other ones makes this one much more useful!
But if you use two 9-volt pedals on one input don’t you have to change the input voltage from 9 to 18 volt (9+9)?
How much pedals I can splint Per outlet ? what are you recomendation , I mean pedal whit a littlet current (25-80mAh)
just got a dc7 and dc8
Nice! You should be set power-wise for a long time then
I have 10 9v low draw pedals (Boss Tr2 and DD3, J Rad Lenny and Blue Note, Mini Cry baby, 7 band EQ, Boss OC5, Micro Vibe, Dls RotoSpin and an EHX Q Tron) and one 18v Fulltone DejaVibe - Ridiculous I know, but what Cioks power supply do I need to power them? I thought that daisy chaining anything but overdrives was noisy.
I've been using the Cioks Big John (the old version with blue typeface) for forever; it's probably time I upgraded! Quick question, though: in the video you guys hook up several pedals to the same output - isn't that usually considered a no-no in regards to noise? Or does it not matter with this kind of power supply?
There is some more to it, but the basically you can run drive/fuzz/trem/wah/boosters and such on daisy cables with minimal worry. It's when you daisy digital and all-analog pedals from the same PSU outlet - this can create unwanted noise.
Why you wearing a hood indoors? 😅anyway great vid great psu
Because I can. Happy you like the video! Cioks make the best power supplies
how to you connect 2 pedals together to a power output. what kind of cable do i need to use?
You need a daisy chain cable. If you use CIOKS products, you can also use their Split Adapter Flex cables, which are typically included with the power supply.
My board has a Digitech Whammy DT on it that's 9V and requires 1300mA. I am a bit dumb with this stuff, but the DC7 wouldn't supply enough amperage for that pedeal, right? Or am I wrong? I appreciate you smart people's help.
If you use one of Cioks own Flex cables (Parallel Adapter Flex to be exact), then you can couple two outlets together from the DC7 to double the amperage. So if you couple two 9V 660mA outlets together, then that will give you 1320mA in total, which is enough to power you Whammy pedal. But it will of course cost you two outlets on the DC7, so it depends on how many pedals you need to power in total. But technically you can power a Whammy via a DC7 😊👍
i went all out... #Ciokolate
That should keep you covered for a while as well 😊👍 Can't go wrong with CIOKS
Hey I use the Electro Harmonix Canyon and the Canyon needs 9.6 volts. It does not work on 9. The box at the end of the chord that it came with is very bulky. Does anyone know of a power supply that can do 9.6?
Just use 12v.
I have Boss GT1000 Core which draws 670ma. Can the DC7 or Cioks SOL power it with one 9v output slot? Thanks
I honestly don't know. It's just on the verge of being able to, if that mA rating is spot on, but the actual draw is often a bit lower than what's labelled. So you can always give it a go. The worst thing that could happen is that your GT1000 won't boot up, and then you know you will have to use two outlets.
How many MA for a Cali76 in 18volts?
Don't know. I would reach out to Origin about that. Or maybe you can find the power rating in the manual for the pedal. The mA consumption doesn't change whether you run something at 9V or 18V
Way more simple to use than voodoo labs!
CIOKS got everything 100% right with this one 😊
May I ask you what apps you use to feed your spacious soundscapes?
Mario Driessen check out the recent video on this subject
I will!
You can learn about all my favorite music apps here: ua-cam.com/video/TAAj0R6T0_Y/v-deo.html
How is the Strymon Zuma compared to the Cioks DC10? Do you prefer and recommend one over the other?
You mean the DC7, and not the DC10, right? If so, then the DC7 is way more powerful than the Zuma, and smaller as well.
ThePedalZone Oh dang, so that’d mean the DC10 would overkill the Zuma? Haha! Thanks for the reply
@@Rhacut - No, the DC10 is actually an older unit, far less powerful. I know it's confusing with the numbers, but the DC7 is the latest PSU from CIOKS and it's their most powerful to date, and currently the most powerful on the market.
Yes, the DC7 is more powerful, but also a lot more versatile. The Zuma is a great supply, but most outlets are dedicated to 9V, and I believe have a max draw of 500MA, and it has two outlets that are variable voltage. So the Zuma works well for running many standard low draw pedals and a few exceptions, where the Cioks DC7 can run a large amount of 9V pedals, as well as many pedals that are either very high current draw or have variable voltage requirements, so the DC7 is considerably more versatile.
So can the Cioks dc7 power my Avalanche Run V2, as well, since it needs 400mA+?
Yes, no problem there. It’ll power it with ease 👌
@@thepedalzone Thanks a lot!
I’ve been having an issue with several pedals, where the power going into them is negative to positive at the power point. Especially with Electro Harmonics pedals. Is there a power source available by Cioks or any other manufacturer, that can help with this issue?
Do we know if the 24v out can be used to power an on board power amp like a mooer baby bomb?
It could probably do that. You just need the right cable. I would contact CIOKS directly if I was you. They have all the detailed knowledge and answers about their products :)
Wait, so i can power up two 9v pedals using only one output ?
Yeah, easily. You just need the right Cioks flex cable. They also make Flex cables that can accommodate 3 pedals from one output. Just remember to not mix analog and digital on the same output. It can create noise issues. Low current analog pedals tend to work best in a daisy chain, and then keep the digital stuff on their own isolated outputs. That's at least a nice rule of thumb.
The Eventide PowerMax is exactly the same unit.
navin advani - Yes, because Cioks made that unit.
@@thepedalzone Can the USB output of the Powermax power a Mission 529? I have a 529 that I currently power from a RockBoard USB battery.
@@thepedalzone but then its $29 more.....🧐 wonder why that is?
hallo.. do you prefer cioks dc7 OR vodo lab?
CIOKS all the way 👍
ThePedalZone how about strymon zuma?
It’s good, but Cioks DC7 is still better
See my comment above to Rhowin Dacut. For some, they wont need the versatility of the DC7, but for others it will be the only applicable option. All around, even if you don't have pedals that require this versatility, everything the Cioks does it does very well, and we can all benefit from the low noise floor and expandability options.
Typically i am late to the game, also really old and now even balding a little, i now know which psu to get. Just one thing that is bothering me and it stems from having both played at and been working as a sound guy in small venues, this way of attaching your psu to this kind of pedalboard.....while a good solution when it comes to the mounting in and of itself, but that spot is the worst place for ANYTHING electric! Given that the pedal board usually sits pretty much at the front of the tiny stage, with people standing, dancing, DRINKING BEER, RESTING that beer....you know where i am going with this....also a reason why i never thought the open construction of pedal train etc are a good idea but with this psu it is even worth, because how can you put it there and then have all your LEDs and switches right there ON the floor?
Now for musicians like us, making slow, sad, depressing music, hehe, the whole dancing and beer swapping 'round might not be an issue, noone ever danced to my music, except when i made music for a dance choreography, äham, but for others ... i don't know...i always loved the Trailer Trash design where the power is safe, hidden inside the frame, with only the main outlet coming out of the board.
But it seems they stopped production which sucks big time, they also only ever had one EU distributor afaik.....
Anyway, that is my long ass take on that little mounting bracket which definitely seems like such a practical, good idea.
🤘👍🏿
Blade Ruuner
Best movie EVER!
Same tech as the Strymon power supplies, except you get 9 outputs on the Strymon
Indeed, but every output on the Zuma doesn't have switchable voltage selectors. And the DC7 has more power per outlet. And the DC7 is smaller. All depends on what features you need 👍
@@thepedalzone True, but my point was he is claiming it's new tech. Switch mode tech is old, its been in consumer appliances for a long time and has been around since the early 1900's.
@@MrRadialdrift - Don't think Christian claimed it to be new tech. Its use is fairly new within the world of pedals though, which he also explains. The tech was seen as being too noisy for pedals before, but CIOKS and Strymon have found ways of filtering out that noise, so it's usable with effects pedals :)
@@thepedalzone Well, effects pedals have been using switch mode for at least the last 20+ years, so again not sure what he is talking about it been "New" to effects pedals.
@@thepedalzone Well, effects pedals have been using switch mode for at least the last 20+ years with very minimal noise, so again not sure what he is talking about it being "New" to effects pedals. I presume the noise he is talking about is when you are trying to daisy chain a switch mode, which is what makes the Dunlop DC bricks a pile of crap. So claiming switch modes are noisy is not accurate, under proper use they are perfectly fine.
All Strymon, Cioks and Gig Rig have done is made a fancy daisy chain switch mode, which to be honest is over priced for what it does. Sure its a new product, but the tech is not. You can get a Joyo power supply for about the 5th the price that uses Ciosk "Old tech" and even the VITOOS PS which are about $40 are great value, they have 3 groups of isolation instead of individual, but if used correctly, you can save $300. Musos just seem to get ripped off when it comes to stuff like this.
I wish someone make a better version of volto. larger cap, variable output voltage...blabla
Sounds like you need the upcoming CIOKS 4. You can learn more about it here: cioks.com/products/cioks-4/
Aren't you the guy who killed John wicks dog?
Definitely not. I'm a dog person and dog owner myself. The death of John Wick's dog broke my heart in trillion pieces. Had to cover my own dog's eyes, so he couldn't witness the horror.
Are you stoned in this video? You seem like you have permagrin lol
Nope. I'm just happy that I get to hang out with a good friend and former colleague, while making silly guitar noises. That'll give most people permagrin
@@thepedalzone much better than the other kind of permagrin
Nothing new under the sun... it's just a pedal power supply
Actually a lot of newness under the sun with the DC7, if you cared to dive into the technical side of things. But hey, I get that PSUs aren't exciting for everybody. It's shame though, because they are pivotal for a great functioning rig. Hope you find something out there that excites you today, makes you smile and makes you want to spread positivity. Have a great day :)
ThePedalZone i love your reviews and your positivity along your videos. I’m a lot into technical side of gear, and a owner of a PP2+ by Voodoo Lab. There would be so much to interact with, when it come to power supply. Especially with voltage control for analog pedals. Nobody have been able to create something new on that side, that don’t mean this power supply is not good, or that it don’t worth it price. But having a great quality power supply, even if it’s not the priority of everybody, is now common, since 10 years.
Hope you’ll have a great day too :)
@@monstawild
Been there, done that. Cioks are far better than voodoo labs in every way except cost. Maybe try one used?
VL's dodgy "boss-spec" connectors alone made me want to trash it. Won't get into how it didn't agree with two of my (better) pedals. Cheers!