I have a 2007 tracker grizzly 1860 CC with the same steel rivets. They hold fine and may have a little surface rust. It's an all welded boat. These fasteners are not a typical rivet. They are heavy duty and extra large and seem to be used to hold critical joints, like where my console attaches to the floor. They are tougher and outlast all the aluminum rivets holding panels as I beat the heck out of the boat in rough waters. Don't Panic!
Steel rivets in an aluminum boat is not a good idea. What’s worse is there is floatation foam under that floor. With the way the boat is being stored outside, and water on the floor, you can bet there is water trapped in that foam under the floor. This is a show stopper for me…It’s too bad, because I kinda like the Tracker boats otherwise. I’m considering a G2 1860, because you can get it without floors installed.
JEEP2001MRED you could drill them out and re-rivet it with aluminum rivets. Not saying it's okay that they do that. I probably won't buy one after seeing this
I've been running a1754 grizzly for 8 years with a jet I use it on a weekly basis no issue or problems . When you're running Sante Cooper in SC or the Potomac in West Virginia I don't want aluminum rivets the main structure of the boat is all welded to begin with the difference is mine is garage kept and not left in the yard to rot
Think about it. Steel rivets are much stronger and hold tighter than aluminum or stainless steel. When your jumping waves, nocking logs or rocks every once in a while you want the strongest rivet holding your boat together. The golden gate bridge isn't made out of aluminum or stainless, it would fall apart. They keep the bridge coated with paint. Its up to you to keep your boat "ship shape". Hope this helps! That's a great boat, toss a cover over it!
Just another boat that will end up in a boat graveyard decades before it's time because the owner did not take care of it and will blame the boat company for it.
@@JEEP2001MRED well I suppose if the seat brackets had been aluminum you'd then be bitching about your seat wobbling and falling off...do yourself a favor get educated and learn basic engineering before humiliating yourself on youtube....you are smart enough to know that youve embarrassed yourself right ?
Drill them out. Put in aluminum. I have taken my floor up 3 times in the last two years to run rigging and wiring customizing my boat. Its not difficult and probably cost me less than $3 in rivets.
Here is an idea.... Keep it covered, keep it dry, you are complaining about rusted rivets while there is water sitting a half a foot from it! Keep it dry or go spend more on a different brand boat! Trackers are good boats for the money you just like any other boat have to take care of it!
@Jam1053428 Does not mean to leave outside uncovered. If it rains while on the lake, clean it out when you get home. Its called taking care of something so it last longer. Not that hard to figure out.
It's a boat, they get wet. The point he is trying to make is that the steel rivets are GOING to rot out eventually, no matter how much you pamper it. It also appears he uses this boat in at least brackish waters. Salt will eat those steel rivets up faster. Also, to be clear, this is a jon boat. They should be built to be rode hard and put up wet. Honestly, if you don't know what you're talking about you should really keep your fingers away from the keyboard. This video has single handedly kept me from wasting my money.
i had nothing to do today I was reading anything and everything about the Grizzly boats i live in northeast Ohio in the summer and southwest Texas in the winter My Grizzly is 7 years old I use about 150 days a year I have beat hell out of this boat from lake Amistad Texas to Lake Erie in northeast Ohio Never a problem I cover my boat when I trailer it and it's under a shelter when it's at home a little TLC goes a long way
Well what happened is the factory told the dealer shorts two clean and paint the rusty steel rivets in the floor they wouldn't change the records I guess they're too cheap so I guess that they put them together with steel rivets not good so if you buy a Tracker grizzly that's what you get.
There is a reason why Tracker boats are the least expensive options out there. To be disappointed that they cut costs is laughable at best. You get what you pay for...also, if you're going to be out in the salt, get a fiberglass boat so you don't have to worry about rust.
Aluminum fasteners are not strong enough for floor fasteners on a boat, there is to much flex and vibration. Aluminum and steel are right next to one another on the active/inactive metal scale used to evaluate dissimilar metals and are thus minimally corrosive. You also need a corrosive environment for dissimilar corrosion to occur, such as keeping a huge puddle of salt water in your boat all the time as this gentleman does.
@@danialcompton3093 Aluminum fasteners aren't strong enough?? Better let all the other boat manufacturers know how inadequate their aluminum rivets are!
If you weren’t so cheap you would have bought the welded but and not worried about it. And these boats are cheap compared to other manufacturers so you get what you paid for.
Well I just got done talking to the dealer shorts and the factory about the rivets the factory says because I'm using the boat and a saltwater environment that they're going to rust and the only thing they told shorts to do is clean them off and paying them not change them so I guess next year when they do it again they'll say we can do anything for you real nice company you better think about buying a Tracker boat you'll have the same thing.
JEEP2001MRED cheap made boat my plastic kayak is stronger than that .6 aluminum sheet this is why I don't buy aluminum boat I'll take kayak over that garbage aluminum boat
Cuz steel rivets are stronger than aluminum and can flex a little without bending/loosening. Which are great for joints than can move, like bench seating, consoles and floors. Yours are holding the floor on, which isnt meant to be under water 24/7 thats why yours are rusting.
Some people love barking at a brick wall! You'll be hard pressed to find a better jon boat when comparing boat vs dollar. Go ahead and spend a couple grand on a boat with 50 bucks of stainless hardware. Touch em up with a little paint, throw down a mat and quit dragging those damn steal baskets around. Use your fucking head old man.
You answered your own question, "When the PAINT WORE OFF, they started to rust..." Why do you think metal surfaces are painted? Every bare metal will oxidize. Even stainless. If you scratch the paint off of your car, it'll rust too! Wire brush, primer, Rust-Oleum...good as new.
If you have any sheet metal experience u would know u can't put 2 dissimilar metals together...why??....because corrosion will naturally set up....EVEN WITHOUT WATER.
You guys are still wrong. If you put SS rivets into aluminum, it can still cause the corrosion on the aluminum. I've seen it. Guy replaced his leaking rivets with SS solid core rivets. almost 8 years later, the hole in the boat was big enough the head of rivets were almost able to be pulled through it!
I have a 2007 tracker grizzly 1860 CC with the same steel rivets. They hold fine and may have a little surface rust. It's an all welded boat. These fasteners are not a typical rivet. They are heavy duty and extra large and seem to be used to hold critical joints, like where my console attaches to the floor. They are tougher and outlast all the aluminum rivets holding panels as I beat the heck out of the boat in rough waters. Don't Panic!
The issue with steel rivets in aluminum is “dissimilar metal corrosion” It will continue to corrode no matter what care is taken. Bad deal.
Maybe they put the steel rivets in so they will corrode and they can sell more boats
Rivots are very easy to replace, just redrill the hole and replace them with whatever type of rivot you want.
You have every right to be pissed. Steel, unless stainless, is a no-go on aluminum
Steel rivets in an aluminum boat is not a good idea. What’s worse is there is floatation foam under that floor. With the way the boat is being stored outside, and water on the floor, you can bet there is water trapped in that foam under the floor. This is a show stopper for me…It’s too bad, because I kinda like the Tracker boats otherwise. I’m considering a G2 1860, because you can get it without floors installed.
It is welded but the rivets holding the floor down are Steel.
JEEP2001MRED you could drill them out and re-rivet it with aluminum rivets. Not saying it's okay that they do that. I probably won't buy one after seeing this
I've been running a1754 grizzly for 8 years with a jet I use it on a weekly basis no issue or problems . When you're running Sante Cooper in SC or the Potomac in West Virginia I don't want aluminum rivets the main structure of the boat is all welded to begin with the difference is mine is garage kept and not left in the yard to rot
What size jet you run on your boat?
GOOD TO KNOW!!! I was going to buy the GRIZZLY 2072 CC...Looks like I'll keep looking. Thanks for the info!
Think about it. Steel rivets are much stronger and hold tighter than aluminum or stainless steel. When your jumping waves, nocking logs or rocks every once in a while you want the strongest rivet holding your boat together. The golden gate bridge isn't made out of aluminum or stainless, it would fall apart. They keep the bridge coated with paint. Its up to you to keep your boat "ship shape". Hope this helps! That's a great boat, toss a cover over it!
Yeah now the seat brackets that came in the boat are rusting because they're Steel how about that.
He still don't get it take care of your shit that won't happen!
Just another boat that will end up in a boat graveyard decades before it's time because the owner did not take care of it and will blame the boat company for it.
@@russelldevane5434 agreed t
@@JEEP2001MRED well I suppose if the seat brackets had been aluminum you'd then be bitching about your seat wobbling and falling off...do yourself a favor get educated and learn basic engineering before humiliating yourself on youtube....you are smart enough to know that youve embarrassed yourself right ?
Drill them out. Put in aluminum. I have taken my floor up 3 times in the last two years to run rigging and wiring customizing my boat. Its not difficult and probably cost me less than $3 in rivets.
I agree with you! You should just bring that boat to my house and drop it off, and go get yourself a plastic Pond Prowler… No more rust! 😂
What's your address?
@@JEEP2001MRED Seriously? 😂
Here is an idea.... Keep it covered, keep it dry, you are complaining about rusted rivets while there is water sitting a half a foot from it! Keep it dry or go spend more on a different brand boat! Trackers are good boats for the money you just like any other boat have to take care of it!
@Jam1053428 Does not mean to leave outside uncovered. If it rains while on the lake, clean it out when you get home. Its called taking care of something so it last longer. Not that hard to figure out.
@Jam1053428 Most of them don't bash their boat manufacturer because bolts rust when they know its sitting outside.
It's a boat, they get wet. The point he is trying to make is that the steel rivets are GOING to rot out eventually, no matter how much you pamper it. It also appears he uses this boat in at least brackish waters. Salt will eat those steel rivets up faster. Also, to be clear, this is a jon boat. They should be built to be rode hard and put up wet. Honestly, if you don't know what you're talking about you should really keep your fingers away from the keyboard. This video has single handedly kept me from wasting my money.
The first problem you have is buying a tracker. Already a fail.
i had nothing to do today I was reading anything and everything about the Grizzly boats i live in northeast Ohio in the summer and southwest Texas in the winter My Grizzly is 7 years old I use about 150 days a year I have beat hell out of this boat from lake Amistad Texas to Lake Erie in northeast Ohio Never a problem I cover my boat when I trailer it and it's under a shelter when it's at home a little TLC goes a long way
Maybe you should contact Tracker support and ask them.
Shit man here I am TODAY about to go buy one to use the the SF bay area and now I see this... kinda stopped me in my tracks, dammit
Probably rusting because you keep it full of puddles of water
That’s a shame. You would think with as much as these boats cost and the companies reputation at stake that they would use top quality materials.
Well what happened is the factory told the dealer shorts two clean and paint the rusty steel rivets in the floor they wouldn't change the records I guess they're too cheap so I guess that they put them together with steel rivets not good so if you buy a Tracker grizzly that's what you get.
There is a reason why Tracker boats are the least expensive options out there. To be disappointed that they cut costs is laughable at best. You get what you pay for...also, if you're going to be out in the salt, get a fiberglass boat so you don't have to worry about rust.
Ok I bought a 1548 g3 Jon boat with no floor in it . One year later I got the floor kite . The hard ware stainless steal . It’s common sense lol
The rest of the hull is welded. The rivers are just holding the floor pan in. Or do like I did and buy a Lowe.
These boats aren't really all that expensive.
dissimliar corrosion gonna happen, just changed my mind, being an aircraft mechanic should have used aluminum
Aluminum fasteners are not strong enough for floor fasteners on a boat, there is to much flex and vibration. Aluminum and steel are right next to one another on the active/inactive metal scale used to evaluate dissimilar metals and are thus minimally corrosive. You also need a corrosive environment for dissimilar corrosion to occur, such as keeping a huge puddle of salt water in your boat all the time as this gentleman does.
As long as you maintain your floor with a layer of paint and or keep your boat dry when you arnt using it, no dissimilar metal corrosion should occur.
@@danialcompton3093 Aluminum fasteners aren't strong enough?? Better let all the other boat manufacturers know how inadequate their aluminum rivets are!
Well now right now I left it at the dealer we'll see what happens see what they do about the Rusted rivets.
Stainless and aluminium don't mix, that's why they chose steel.
Oh yeah you're probably right I should have bought a fiberglass but I didn't.
Love mine
I don't know why in the hell it's jumping I think my camera was screwed up
If you weren’t so cheap you would have bought the welded but and not worried about it. And these boats are cheap compared to other manufacturers so you get what you paid for.
Boy You Are so funny.
Well I just got done talking to the dealer shorts and the factory about the rivets the factory says because I'm using the boat and a saltwater environment that they're going to rust and the only thing they told shorts to do is clean them off and paying them not change them so I guess next year when they do it again they'll say we can do anything for you real nice company you better think about buying a Tracker boat you'll have the same thing.
JEEP2001MRED cheap made boat my plastic kayak is stronger than that .6 aluminum sheet this is why I don't buy aluminum boat I'll take kayak over that garbage aluminum boat
Buy a Polar Kraft they stand behind everything they build one tough boat they even customize the boat for you if you want very happy with my 2072
Dont hammer it in the waves it wont do that
That kinda sucks, question, where do you use it at? I’m looking at using my g3 in Whittier and Seward for silvers, as long as the weather is decent
I want to know why you used jumpy video to show me what you're talkin about. Why?
Thanks for the info. I'll avoid Tracker boats forever.
You should have brought an Alweld.
Cuz steel rivets are stronger than aluminum and can flex a little without bending/loosening. Which are great for joints than can move, like bench seating, consoles and floors. Yours are holding the floor on, which isnt meant to be under water 24/7 thats why yours are rusting.
Put some paint on them , steel for strength ,,,
Oh OK Dude.
Steel wibets LMFAO
Good thing i watched this. I was going to get the 1548 model....but not anymore
Get a welded boat my guy. Get what ya pay for.
That is a welded boat Except for the rabbit's hole in the floor Down
i would just drill them out and put in stainless ones, its pretty easy to drill those rivets out
Stainless and aluminum is worse. The dissimilar metals will corrode the aluminum faster. Don't do it!
Only electricians and Machinist know this.
Some people love barking at a brick wall! You'll be hard pressed to find a better jon boat when comparing boat vs dollar. Go ahead and spend a couple grand on a boat with 50 bucks of stainless hardware. Touch em up with a little paint, throw down a mat and quit dragging those damn steal baskets around. Use your fucking head old man.
Why do you think I bought it?
War Eagle.
Then why don't they make the boat out of steel and paint it?
nothing like having a 1 ton 17ft. long boat
and what happens when you chip the paint or scratch it oh wow rust hole
Yea it’s a sham . It’s called bean counters . That’s how they think lol. That’s what your giving your money to
How long have you had the boat?
I had it about 3 years. I like the boats But I don't like the Rivets Rusting
You are to see there's rabbits now Real bad
Two words bud BOAT COVER.
Two words for you. Dissimilar metals. Learn your stuff before making stupid comments. Steel and aluminum DO NOT MIX. Period
pretty crappy, would not last long in salt water regardless of how much "care" you took of it.
Damn....automatic corrosion.
Are those crab traps? You running in salt water?
Yes there crab Traps And yes I'm Running in salt water and The ocean.
Rusted because they're made out of steel
So I guess when they rust away u'll just have a bunch of holes . I want buy one . Thanks for showing.
I think I will.
Paint it and sell it then buy you a weldbilt just sayin
If you didn’t like it why’d you buy it
Pretty sure they rusted after purchase
I electrolysis. Steel always wins. .that aluminum is going to pit out after a decade or less. Lose all strength. Trashhhhhh
Screw that. I was going to buy one but first they stop making the cheper Jon Boats and now I see this...I'm done.
Calm down
Okay
Ive never read a good review of Tracker Boats. Junk.
and i bet you got all the money to spend on a real nice boat
@@thewinterjaeger4381 ,hahaha ,not exactly. I drive a 1984 smokercraft 14 ft tinny. not really a rich boys toy.
You answered your own question,
"When the PAINT WORE OFF, they started to rust..."
Why do you think metal surfaces are painted? Every bare metal will oxidize. Even stainless.
If you scratch the paint off of your car, it'll rust too!
Wire brush, primer, Rust-Oleum...good as new.
If you have any sheet metal experience u would know u can't put 2 dissimilar metals together...why??....because corrosion will naturally set up....EVEN WITHOUT WATER.
They should have used Stainless Steal rivets and we wouldn't be having this discussion and it would be just as strong. Major fail on Tracker's part
@@patrickcannady7716 stainless steel rivets will work and they will rust only when contaminated with carbon. Not aluminum!
You guys are still wrong. If you put SS rivets into aluminum, it can still cause the corrosion on the aluminum. I've seen it. Guy replaced his leaking rivets with SS solid core rivets. almost 8 years later, the hole in the boat was big enough the head of rivets were almost able to be pulled through it!
Thats why i have a All welded boat like Wooldridge, get rid of your Junk.
Trackers are built cheap as possible, steel is cheaper than stainless steel wouldnt own a tracker
WTF?
Cheap boat and cheap camera😐