Kyle is more famous than "Kathy" Hilton. Paris and Nicole are famous. Context is important, Lisa is talking about Kathy. Not Paris and Nicole. A good example, you couldn't even mention Kathy without having to bring up her famous daughters just now. Now ur adding in a scenario that Lisa never even said.. listen.
So... why is it an issue when somebody brings up Lisa's off camera behavior and stuff but she's willing to bring up all this other stuff that with other people?
Okay but why does Lisa Rinna retelling what Kathy said sound almost exactly like when Rinna yelled at Kim about her husband? This sounds like a plot to take down Kathy.
Who believes a thing that come out of that frogmouth?! She is self serving..the Only Reason she got in the car to take Cathy out was so that SHE could create whatever narrative she wanted with no witnesses to challenge her assertions... something Kyle would do
Why does Sutton seek out a friendship with Ericka’s evil behind… this vile woman pretends to be ok with Sutton every year. Sutton Garcelle and Krystle should have chartered their own flight back home because those other girls don’t actually like them.
@@LisaGallegos I see what you're saying. But why is Sutton constantly going out of her way to befriend someone who called her that awful c word? And when Dutton cried, Ej laughed.... I could never get past that.
When this show started I had no idea who Kyle was. None. But I knew who the Hiltons were. Even before Paris got famous, I knew about Kathy Hilton. Let’s not pretend (Rinna) that Kathy wasn’t on editorials like Vogue, Elle, Harper’s Bazaar, and Vanity Fair! Back when real celebrities and stars were on magazines… (and no I don’t mean the cover)
Kyle was a child star. I believe if you are a horror movie buff, like myself, you would have recognized she was on the original Halloween film. Outside of that, as I grew up I knew about Paris Hilton than her own mother. So I think it depends from person to person.
Kyle is more famous than Kathy Hilton, but not more famous than the Hilton sisters. I would say that is a fact. Even if you didn't know Kyle Richards, over the past decade EVERYBODY in the reality tv world knows Kyle Richards. She was already famous but grew into Reality TV famous. Where as Kathy was always just in the background as the wife of or mom.
Sutton is the girl who desperately wants to be friends with the mean girl to feel like she’s cool. She’s too grown to be acting like that. Love her, but she needs a backbone that’s not so bendy
It could be more of Sutton not liking tension in a room...and they don't need to be besties but naturally pleasant .find a common ground like music art make up perfumes events whatever...just not exist in highly charged uncomfortable triggering conversations...keep it light ..
I totally agree, the same thing I said too about her and Kyle, i get the fact that she's not a confrontational person and not want to argue with anyone. But she allows them to treat her bad too many times.
It’s because Lisa can’t keep using her deceased mother as a storyline, So she had to make up an outrageous story about Kathy going so crazy that Lisa locked herself in the bedroom. I call complete Bull- - -t!
I hate how Sutton just put aside all the terrible things Erika’s done and is now kissing up to her… “I really like you!!! Omg you’re making me cry” ugh Sutton… this’ll just make Erika think if she bullies ppl hard enough, they’ll want to be her friend. Typical mean girl BS.
Could it simply be that you can catch a glimpse of likeability of someone you don't respect? It takes so much energy to continually dislike someone you have to deal with...like a co worker..you are stuck together unless you quit...I can make my life hell by putting way too much effort into not being my natural good natured slightly sarcastic self..or I can lighten up and just avoid subjects and interaction that cause stress....Its a sign of maturity
But you actually watch the show they was Nick picking with her the whole time in Kyle was the main one that's probably why she had the milk down and Kyle knows it but she's going to play like she don't
Yes but when she acts like a pedophile and tries to hide it and force the crew to erase the truth that is evil, how about being more truthful and open and dont be so rich and evil, own it. Cathy is evil, I never liked her anyway. Let the fools be stray by the fakeness of your soul.
Rinna is a hypocrite. When someone brings up Harry, then she’ll act the same way or even worse. Also Kyle is using this as a story because she brought nothing to this season per usual instead she was being petty like her bestie Teddy and look where she is now (not on the show).
Out of all people, why did it have to be Rinna as the only witness to Kathy’s outrageous behavior after the club…it’s too hard to believe anything out of Rinna’s mouth!
Idc, I still sympathize with Kathy. The group starting with Kyle, including her clique, stresses Kathy out. They get on my nerves and I’m not even there.
@@KMT-jb5mv That says something. That her marrying and mothering fame and fortune is more known than Kyle. People know Kim, Paris and Kathy. They don't really know Kyle. 🤷♂️
@@KMT-jb5mv Exactly like I didn't even watch housewives before I got to know of kathy hilton or seen her before up in my reommendations on youtube etc I only knew of kyle due to housewives tbh I guess
@steve b Kyle did what? 2 movies when she was a kid that were worthy of remembering?! Lmao. Her only fame now comes from this Housewives BS and even then she was know as Kathy HILTONS sister or Paris Hiltons aunt by us viewers. Lmao and Mauricio got all his start up money from being in business with the Hiltons in the first place. He may be rich now but he should humble himself and definitely remember how he got where he is now.
@@taryndoiron3971 yall must be young she was on one of the biggest shows of all time..lmao...kyle and kim worked for their money..Kathy married into money so yes there may be some resentments we dont know about
SHOW THE FOOTAGE!! At this point everyone knows there's producer cams in the cars. I'm not believing anything the FFF says cause they love over exaggerating stories and having selective memories.
Right? They are constantly filming them in the vans, but now all of a sudden at the most dramatic of moments there are no cameras in the van? There are no staff in the house when everyone comes home from a drunken night out at the club? Please.
100 percent Evolution has it, but Kathy may have filed a motion not to air. She could have come on the show just to attack Kyle, if she is so angry. We'll see!
Exactly- why does anyone trust what Rinna says after she lied about the stupid charity dinner and how many other things? And seriously I like Kyle- when she isn’t around Rinna, Erika or Dorit- but she doesn’t have more wealth or fame than Kathy like wtf is Lisa talking about? But even if that were true- to suggest that that’s what Kathy was upset about is just ridiculous. I don’t think it was about Kyle at all.
The only person that had a break down was Erica and she ruined the trip for everyone. They're now trying to exaggerate Kathy's situation to deflect and distract from the outlandish heartless spectacle Erica made of herself. Its so predictable and horrible of Kyle to allow this to happen. What a POS sister.
Kyle is a HORRIBLE SISTER ! She never protected KIM! She’s not protecting KATHY !!!! If my sister say she want to leave; IM LEAVING ! Then she leave left her sister alone not knowing how she would get to the Airport 😮. Lisa Rinna is nasty and very VILE !
It’s always interesting how during super dramatic moments, 95% of it is straight up excluded from the show… they just show the other housewives talking about the event instead of showing actual glimpses of the event
Kathy will probably sue Bravo is why. The ladies even said that Kathy said that. I'm sure they all heard her, up until late at night in her room.....but whomever was there could've heard the I'm gonna destroy Kyle and her whole family comment
That’s because Kathy threaten to sue the network if they showed her behavior in the sprinter van. You notice the only filled outside the sprinter van if it was going home.
Kathy is both rich and powerful. The ratings wouldn't take a dive if she departed the show but bravo would need really good lawyers to fight off the Hiltons if they did aire it.
Also remember, at high altitude, Kathy is oxygen deprived, one drink is the equivalent of two for a normal person and three for an older person, and can interfere with your medication’s. The incidence of stroke or bleeding of the brain is much higher. From my experience, something was really really off medically with Kathy this trip. She is a gracious lady, and deserves more than what her sister is giving.
even if it were not a medical issue she was treated horrible ....no one supporting her brand was just mean. They always support each other but not this time. I dont blame her a bit. She was treated worse than the dog.
Totally agree. Also, I have 3 sisters. We love hard but we fight hard too. Sometimes when you're in a mood or irritated, it's easy to take that frustration out on the people closest to you. Whatever Kathy said about Kyle, I'm sure she didn't mean it. Lord knows I have said some nasty things to my sisters when I was angry. Rinna should just keep this shit to herself. I think Rinna is deflecting bc SHE is the one who is jealous, not Kathy.
Kathy is compromised. She's stressed. She's a little older, in an oxygen-poor environment and, in my opinion, on benzodiazepines, mood stabilizers or both...she's been in a controlled environment since she married young. She does not do well on these trips because she isn't used to the pace. She got butt hurt and started making rich people threats, all because she can't write the script on these RHOBH excursions. I predict we're all going to get a sob story at the reunion about all of the above as a get out of the hot seat strategy and Rinna is already salivating at the thought of calling her out. Anyone care to place a bet?
I hate that Rinna feels she can psychoanalyze Kathy’s situation… who is she to say how Kathy really feels? Kyle has been terrible to Kathy all season. I would be upset too. It’s called loyalty Rinna!
I kind of agree. Kathy has a famous last name. Kyle is famous on her own without Mauricio. Kyle and Mauricio have had more personal success together. I don’t know what Kathy does? She’s a Hilton, that’s all I know of her. Wed into money.
Rinna is evil and Kyle is vile, Kyle built her careers on the back of the Hiltons and Kim, for Kyle to still be friends with someone like Rinna who continues to berate and talk down on her own sisters just shows how weak that woman is.
@@jenniferlawrence9473 a career doing the Halloween movies every 20 years 😂😂😂 and she wouldn’t be on this show if she didn’t come from a famous family it’s not like she has multiple award winning movies 😂😂 she came up with Kathy marrying into the Hilton family she should learn how to be a better sister… ironic she did this to Kim and now she’s doing to Kathy? I think not
@@xkaylaxx8208 What do you mean marrying into the Hilton family. Kathy is her sister! lol Kathy married into the Hilton family. Not the other way around.
It was canned oxygen. At that altitude it is difficult to adjust and your physical body takes a beating. They've been drinking which dehydrates you and doing strenuous exercise...and these ladies aren't teenagers.
Duck lips Rinna is dirty always lying to trying to get something on somebody to make them look bad like Kathy Sutton garcelle and Krystal but Kyle Erika Diana and Dorit she want say a word witches cover for witches
Honestly I wouldn’t believe Rinna, how is she the only one who wanted to leave with Kathy. It smells of a set up. I wouldn’t walk with Rinna to the corner.
Rinna has been trying to trash Kathy for years. Kathy had a mini breakdown, so what. Kathy has lived under the spotlight for years and with Kyle as a sister I'd throw lots of tantrums. We've seen Rinna's anger so she needs to shut up.
How calculated was it of Rinna to have texted Erika INSTEAD of Kyle IF Kathy was having a breakdown? Why would Rinna not text Kyle about her sister? Smh these ladies are disgusting
Exactly. Erika can yell at children and try to screw one of them that is married, that's just her "letting loose," but if Sutton looks at someone wrong, it's a 4 episode story arc. They are coordinating this stuff behind the scenes to take out Kathy because she's on the show and more well liked than the rest of them.
So now they are after Kathy.... Big surprise! Isn't there something going on with them, Lisa, Kyle, Dorit and Erika and a big house and bank cards??? Looking forward to seeing justice for the victims.
Team Kathy all the way 🎉 we all have a breaking point, they were all being super bitchy, and they had alcohol at a high altitude. It makes a HUGE difference to drink in the mountains everyone at my wedding in vail got way too fucked up lol
I think this is a storyline for Lisa/ Ericka knowing that there contract is up. What better way to start up some BS with Kathy the fox 4 ladies are mean spirit?
Listen to you...Kathy imploded, for whatever reason. Kathy brought it on herself. Lost control and several saw it. I like her too but it sounds like a tantrum. She has admitted to it in another interview.
@@Tazzy5 they are stretching that so that they can have a storyline and something to talk about other than Ericka lashing off at people and Lisa yelling at people and using her mom death as an excuse to be inappropriate to people
How do you just leave your sister and or friend behind? God forbid someone broke into that house after seeing them leave, thinking everyone was gone. I can't believe this. What is wrong with these people?
Sometimes I wonder if Kyle knows what she is doing. She is throwing her sisters under the bus for fame and money. One day she will regret this. When karma comes for her.
Rena stirring the pot doesn’t make the show more interesting. Showing the women getting along and having fun is interesting not watching women tear each other down
Am I the only one noticing a pattern here? first Rena came in between Kyle and her sister Kim and now rena is coming between Kyle and her sister Kathy.
Did Lisa Rinna just fix her mouth to say Kathy is jealous because Kyle is richer and more famous? Huh?? Lisa must be on something strong because what??? Even as a young teen growing up in Nigeria, I knew the Hilton name. Today Kathy is worth 400million and Kyle 100 million. Wtf? 😂
Last reunion, Andy Cohen made the set where they filmed the reunion look like Kathy's home. Andy hasn't done that for anyone else on the show yet Rinna thinks Kyle is more famous and successful ? Laughable
It's just weird in the club Kathy had a meltdown and nobody there recorded, even from a cell phone? And if Bravo couldn't film in a club, they didn't film Kathy throwing things in Kyle's house like Rinna said? Everything is according to Lisa buy Bravo has no footage, it's strange.
She also takes on different personas depending on whether she’s wearing makeup or not lol. When she feels pretty, she’ll rip your head apart. When she’s feeling plain and exposed, she acts like a sweet little bunny 😒
Idk🤷♀️do they have footage?🤷♀️they always have footage unless it’s something we really need to see. I mean they covered the cameras on RHOA and we still got footage🤷♀️🤦🏽♀️
I’m sorry but Kyle has been treating Cathy badly the entire show ridiculing her and then she didn’t support her about the tequila didn’t say anything to Lisa I think Kyel is afraid of Lisa. She put her sister in the basement which I thought was horrible she’s the oldest person there and maybe Lisa‘s. So what she said some bad things about her sister that is not a big deal but you know what is Erica‘s outburst that is a big deal. I wish Kathy had a little bit of a Main Street dinner and would take Lisa Rinna down
Kyle is fake having her sister sleeping in bump bed then talk about her with Lisa knowing she dissed her sister. Just plane wack hell they all get break downs. Not fair she the only real one ☝🏾
No seriously.. this lady been mixing too many pills again she forgot all the times she had a “break down” nearly choked Kim, cursed Sutton out & went around spreading lies an for Kyle to be cool with someone who said your sister was near death is SICK ON SO MANY LEVELS.
Rinna has a drug problem I think. Shes the one bringing out the edibles, carrying around a bag of pills, and putting xanax in her smoothies. She definitely acts like she's on something most of the time.
The way Rinna is acting like she’s never had a melt down and threatened to destroy everyone. Which she has literally said this season. The hypocrisy is gross
In the beginning ' When Erica filled for a divorce. I was disappointed in her for doing that to her husband who did so much for her. Then I began to see the TRUTH and my heart aches for her and I empathize with her and I STRONGLY believe she was a victim too in so many ways. I guess her foolishness to fall for a man's success and what he showered her with to win her. Cost her way more than what was given to her with MATERIAL things. I guess Karma got her for that dumb choice with her greed for such a lifestyle. Even if she made those choices. She doesn't deserve what happened to her . Then when it comes to Kathy Hilton. I just can't imagine why she keeps trying to make Lisa look like she is being dishonest. When Lisa is telling the Truth. The humble thing should be by Kathy ' Admit what she said. word by word without trying to make Lisa look like a person who has made it all up. By throwing her under the bus to protect her image. FUCK the image. Show that you too can FUCK up and you are not perfect as everyone thinks of you to be. Just like the rest of the human race. It's OK to be not perfect and it's OK to FUCK up and it's OK to feel emotions and even act out BUT it's NOT OK to show the people who saw it all .Look like they have made it all up and then say to the world ' Those people are lying about you.When you know ' Its you who is lying and being dishonest. I BELIEVE LISA ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WITHOUT A DOUBT. I JUST CAN'T STAND PEOPLE WHO THROWS OTHERS UNDER THE BUS TO PROTECT THEIR IMAGE. WHEN THEY HAVE FUCKED UP. I ADMIRE PEOPLE. WHO ADMITS IN THE MOST GENUINE WAY BEING SINCERE AND HUMBLE. NOT FUCKING ARROGANT. TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY DIDN'T DO SHIT WRONG . I love Kathy and I don't love Lisa. But for ME ' MY loyalty is always to the truth. Being loyal to the truth is ' Being loyal to the UNIVERSE ( GOD ) ' I don't sacrifice that loyalty to any human being .If I do ' I will betray EVERYTHING I believe what TRULY loving GOD is about and should be.
Rina is so wrong! Kathy is way more successful than Kyle. And at the end they are sisters and should stick together. Rina should not be causing this family to split! Lisa thinks she's Oprah W.
I find it very funny how Kyle is the common denominator between both Kim and Kathy with the drama. Remember her and Kim were fighting over Kyle's shenanigans as well
I believe Kathy had a meltdown and threw a tantrum. I believe there is footage from the van because the producers are everywhere. I also believe Kathy threatened to sue and that footage will never see the light of day. Kathy should have been one and done. If you have a good edit, Rinna will definitely be gunning for you. After this, Nicki won't let her do another season of this show. LOL
The hate for Kyle here is wildddd.. Kathy hasn’t always been a great sister, she’s clearly been an absent mother emotionally, so not immune to errors.. And some of the things she said to Kyle were vile. I think Kathy lives in her world where she thinks everyone will jump to her whim
Rena just doesn’t know how to be a friend. She turned her back on Denise Richard’s and now she turned her back on Kathy who was venting privately to her. Rena just thinks she’s on the set of a soap opera -no girl this is real life dont twist your roles. It’s like how she forgot saying “Kim is near death”
Rinna knows how to press peoples buttons. I am glad that she is no longer on the show. I also thought it was weird that Kyle was friends with Rinna. How could you be friends with someone that mistreated your sister?? Kyle knows nothing about loyalty.
Rinna’s comments were so ignorant. Kathy’s daughter is Paris freaking Hilton. If she wanted to be some big reality star in the public she would’ve joined real housewives a LONGG time ago. Being a reality star isn’t exactly life goals for most people.
Use to like Sutton in earlier seasons, but she’s turning into a mean girl just like the rest of them! Kathy has never spoken ill of any of them, now they’ve all banned together to try and get her off the show. And please Kyle, “glancing at Erika’s phone? “ Not buying it, she luvs that the group is portraying Kathy as the bad sister. A good sister would have taken her sister out of the situation from making a fool of herself
Why no would Lisa discourage Kyle from being concerned about her sister? That’s shady af. Stay out of sibling rivalry and don’t fan the flames. She’s disgusting.
In what world was vile Kyle ever way more famous then the hiltons. Season 1 Kyle mentioned Paris Hilton more than her own kids
😂
Kyle is more famous than "Kathy" Hilton. Paris and Nicole are famous. Context is important, Lisa is talking about Kathy. Not Paris and Nicole. A good example, you couldn't even mention Kathy without having to bring up her famous daughters just now. Now ur adding in a scenario that Lisa never even said.. listen.
@@dom7345 she’s not. Everyone who knows Kyle richards knows Kathy Hilton. Not everybody who knows Kathy knows Kyle
Lol
She's more famous as an individual I think. Rinna made a fair point.
So... why is it an issue when somebody brings up Lisa's off camera behavior and stuff but she's willing to bring up all this other stuff that with other people?
Exactly
Lisa is a hypocrite
There hypocrites
What off camera behavior Lisa had?
It’s ALLL an issue… idk why we as fans act as if we suppose to blame 1 or hold 1 more responsible for their action just because we don’t like them…
Okay but why does Lisa Rinna retelling what Kathy said sound almost exactly like when Rinna yelled at Kim about her husband? This sounds like a plot to take down Kathy.
As sooooooooon as Lisa started talking about what Kathy said, I knew she was lying
Who believes a thing that come out of that frogmouth?! She is self serving..the Only Reason she got in the car to take Cathy out was so that SHE could create whatever narrative she wanted with no witnesses to challenge her assertions... something Kyle would do
And Lips was so nasty when Kyle asked how Kathy was getting home? Rinna: "It's not your problem." Rinna is such an evil witch! I detest Rinna!😠
Agree. That’s exactly what this is. It won’t work.
It's not Kyle's problem. Kathy chose not to be on the plane. Her choice.
Why does Sutton seek out a friendship with Ericka’s evil behind… this vile woman pretends to be ok with Sutton every year. Sutton Garcelle and Krystle should have chartered their own flight back home because those other girls don’t actually like them.
I don’t think it’s a friendship that she’s looking for I think Sutton just wants peace
Exactly!! Sutton needs to stop trying so hard with Evil Erika. Pay her no mind, Sutton! She is not a friend to anyone!
@@GG-qy2wy maybe cause they’re coworkers and it’s easier
@@LisaGallegos yes that’s the only reason!
@@LisaGallegos I see what you're saying. But why is Sutton constantly going out of her way to befriend someone who called her that awful c word? And when Dutton cried, Ej laughed.... I could never get past that.
When this show started I had no idea who Kyle was. None. But I knew who the Hiltons were. Even before Paris got famous, I knew about Kathy Hilton. Let’s not pretend (Rinna) that Kathy wasn’t on editorials like Vogue, Elle, Harper’s Bazaar, and Vanity Fair! Back when real celebrities and stars were on magazines… (and no I don’t mean the cover)
Exactly, I agree 100%. I was shocked when she said it, like she can’t be serious
Kyle was a child star. I believe if you are a horror movie buff, like myself, you would have recognized she was on the original Halloween film. Outside of that, as I grew up I knew about Paris Hilton than her own mother. So I think it depends from person to person.
Kyle is more famous than Kathy Hilton, but not more famous than the Hilton sisters. I would say that is a fact. Even if you didn't know Kyle Richards, over the past decade EVERYBODY in the reality tv world knows Kyle Richards. She was already famous but grew into Reality TV famous. Where as Kathy was always just in the background as the wife of or mom.
I agree with you 💯
@@dom7345 and everybody in reality TV knows Kathy
Sutton is the girl who desperately wants to be friends with the mean girl to feel like she’s cool. She’s too grown to be acting like that. Love her, but she needs a backbone that’s not so bendy
yeah. that’s the only thing i don’t like about her.
It could be more of Sutton not liking tension in a room...and they don't need to be besties but naturally pleasant .find a common ground like music art make up perfumes events whatever...just not exist in highly charged uncomfortable triggering conversations...keep it light ..
I totally agree, the same thing I said too about her and Kyle, i get the fact that she's not a confrontational person and not want to argue with anyone. But she allows them to treat her bad too many times.
Yes and I can't stand it. Ugh
Sutton has had it with being bullied, but she shouldn't try so hard to be friends with Evil Erika. Sutton, watch your back!!
Now, wait, Kathy is the richest housewife to appear on the show. Why would she be jealous of Kyle? I think Rinna loves to hear herself talk.
Rinna is too far up Kyle you know what.
Period
It’s because Lisa can’t keep using her deceased mother as a storyline, So she had to make up an outrageous story about Kathy going so crazy that Lisa locked herself in the bedroom. I call complete Bull- - -t!
Kyle worked for her success. Kathy married into hers. She hasn't worked for her success.
@@belgiumgirl8970 me too
I hate how Sutton just put aside all the terrible things Erika’s done and is now kissing up to her… “I really like you!!! Omg you’re making me cry” ugh Sutton… this’ll just make Erika think if she bullies ppl hard enough, they’ll want to be her friend. Typical mean girl BS.
I hate to say it but Sutton is a push over smh … as much as I love her, she definitely needs more of a back bone
Could it simply be that you can catch a glimpse of likeability of someone you don't respect?
It takes so much energy to continually dislike someone you have to deal with...like a co worker..you are stuck together unless you quit...I can make my life hell by putting way too much effort into not being my natural good natured slightly sarcastic self..or I can lighten up and just avoid subjects and interaction that cause stress....Its a sign of maturity
If it was me I would have been done slapped Erika back into last week.
Sutton needs a backbone and some self respect. It is sad to watch.
Sutton has her evil side also. SHe is not innocent.
I’m still stuck on who leaves their sister in Aspen especially after a breakdown?
She can’t physically drag her out or Kathy will physically drag her.😩😩
You cant force a grown woman who wont get out of bed and tells you they're not getting on a plane to get on a plane. Adults do what adults do.
Agreed. I'd drag my FRIEND out of bed or bargain with them or, SOMETHING. I'd probably stay behind if it were my family.
The same person who won’t take their sister back home after she’s literally begging everyone around her to take her home
Exactly!! You just don't do that! Kyle is so selfish!
Everyone is entitled to a meltdown. Even Kathy Hilton.
It’s at least a human thing not completely outrageous
Yeah but you don't threaten to take down your sister. That's not ok
But you actually watch the show they was Nick picking with her the whole time in Kyle was the main one that's probably why she had the milk down and Kyle knows it but she's going to play like she don't
FACTS S
Yes but when she acts like a pedophile and tries to hide it and force the crew to erase the truth that is evil, how about being more truthful and open and dont be so rich and evil, own it. Cathy is evil, I never liked her anyway. Let the fools be stray by the fakeness of your soul.
I don't believe Rinna, Erika or Diane for one second. All 3 have something to gain from this. Kathy will look bad and they will get the heat off them.
Kathy has already copped to her bad behavior in another interview.
Exactly!! I don't believe it either cuz crystal didn't see it and she said she doesn't think it's as big as they say so nope!!! Nice try tho, c... s!
Rinna is a hypocrite. When someone brings up Harry, then she’ll act the same way or even worse. Also Kyle is using this as a story because she brought nothing to this season per usual instead she was being petty like her bestie Teddy and look where she is now (not on the show).
Rinna at Sutton about ???? at Dorit's charity event: WHY DO YOU ALWAYS COME AT ME?! WHEN I KNOW WHY I WILL LET IT THE F*CKING GO!
@Donna Chavez I never shall Teddi act like that. When?
She flogged skinny all her life to sell stuff to insecure women and her daughter is anorexic. Lmfao. Karma they call that.
Out of all people, why did it have to be Rinna as the only witness to Kathy’s outrageous behavior after the club…it’s too hard to believe anything out of Rinna’s mouth!
She's know for lying per kim
I don't think Rinna is lying. What reason would there be?
Yes I was thinking the same thing‼️
@@megshafer Rinna lied when she said “Kim was near death” and “ Kyle was an enabler “. IDk why she lies BUT she DOES.
@@jeanmcginnis9804 WAIT KYLE NOT AN ENABLER
Kyle is not more famous and more successful than Kathy. Stop Rinna.
She might be but u think she’s a “Hilton”makes her more successful
I think she is. All Kathy has is her last name and her daughter. Kathy is pretty damn funny though!
@@candicelopez4825 who gives a damn about fame when you’re that rich?
@@candicelopez4825 I think it also depends on how you think of it. Kathy’s family involves not only Hilton but also Rothschild.
As an individual she is . Kathy is the wife of Rick Hilton. I've liked her, but clearly she has issues.
Idc, I still sympathize with Kathy. The group starting with Kyle, including her clique, stresses Kathy out. They get on my nerves and I’m not even there.
I think if the women didn't consume so much alcohol it would be less disrespect among each other
Agreed
They wouldn’t have a show then 😝
I don't think anybody, women or men, should consumed so much alcohol that they are no longer in control of themselves or their senses.
@@Sas-rf9sy No duh but this is about women because the show is about women
All things Rinna has done in the past. They baited and teased Kathy at every chance.
Kyle Richards more famous ? Weird I only knew who she was cause of Kathy Hilton . Kathy Hilton has been famous
Hilton, you only know her for her husband wealth and her daughter but not for anything she has specifically done. She is a socialite
@@KMT-jb5mv okay and? 😂 she is still more famous and successful than Kyle
@@KMT-jb5mv That says something. That her marrying and mothering fame and fortune is more known than Kyle.
People know Kim, Paris and Kathy. They don't really know Kyle. 🤷♂️
@@KMT-jb5mv Exactly like I didn't even watch housewives before I got to know of kathy hilton or seen her before up in my reommendations on youtube etc I only knew of kyle due to housewives tbh I guess
I only knew her because of this show!
Wait... So I'm supposed to believe that Kathy is jealous of Kyle? *chuckles*
Right! She is not jealous but they have a lot of family resentment
Kathy would be cracking up of she heard lol
@steve b Kyle did what? 2 movies when she was a kid that were worthy of remembering?! Lmao. Her only fame now comes from this Housewives BS and even then she was know as Kathy HILTONS sister or Paris Hiltons aunt by us viewers. Lmao and Mauricio got all his start up money from being in business with the Hiltons in the first place. He may be rich now but he should humble himself and definitely remember how he got where he is now.
@@taryndoiron3971 exactly! 🤣🤣🤣 people in the comment section are freaking delusional acting as if she was just some active a-list actress.
@@taryndoiron3971 yall must be young she was on one of the biggest shows of all time..lmao...kyle and kim worked for their money..Kathy married into money so yes there may be some resentments we dont know about
SHOW THE FOOTAGE!! At this point everyone knows there's producer cams in the cars. I'm not believing anything the FFF says cause they love over exaggerating stories and having selective memories.
Right? They are constantly filming them in the vans, but now all of a sudden at the most dramatic of moments there are no cameras in the van? There are no staff in the house when everyone comes home from a drunken night out at the club? Please.
Is the tantrum recorded? I need to see the receipts. I don’t believe it. I’m irritated with this. 😂
100 percent Evolution has it, but Kathy may have filed a motion not to air. She could have come on the show just to attack Kyle, if she is so angry. We'll see!
Exactly- why does anyone trust what Rinna says after she lied about the stupid charity dinner and how many other things? And seriously I like Kyle- when she isn’t around Rinna, Erika or Dorit- but she doesn’t have more wealth or fame than Kathy like wtf is Lisa talking about? But even if that were true- to suggest that that’s what Kathy was upset about is just ridiculous. I don’t think it was about Kyle at all.
Alllll this happened and NO CAMERAS..really?! 🙄😒
Me too! Lisa can make it look as bad as she chooses and I don’t trust her.
Same!
Even if what Lisa said is true I still don't like her🤣
Lol
Does Kyle not see how Lisa Rinna tries to go after both her sisters! Is she blind????
Kyle wants a storyline and will sacrifice her sisters ...
The only person that had a break down was Erica and she ruined the trip for everyone. They're now trying to exaggerate Kathy's situation to deflect and distract from the outlandish heartless spectacle Erica made of herself. Its so predictable and horrible of Kyle to allow this to happen. What a POS sister.
Kyle is a HORRIBLE SISTER ! She never protected KIM! She’s not protecting KATHY !!!! If my sister say she want to leave; IM LEAVING ! Then she leave left her sister alone not knowing how she would get to the Airport 😮. Lisa Rinna is nasty and very VILE !
Kathy is not alone, Bravo is there.
It’s always interesting how during super dramatic moments, 95% of it is straight up excluded from the show… they just show the other housewives talking about the event instead of showing actual glimpses of the event
Kathy will probably sue Bravo is why. The ladies even said that Kathy said that. I'm sure they all heard her, up until late at night in her room.....but whomever was there could've heard the I'm gonna destroy Kyle and her whole family comment
Right
That’s because Kathy threaten to sue the network if they showed her behavior in the sprinter van. You notice the only filled outside the sprinter van if it was going home.
I’m assuming she demanded they not show the footage. Orrrr it was a lie.
Kathy is both rich and powerful. The ratings wouldn't take a dive if she departed the show but bravo would need really good lawyers to fight off the Hiltons if they did aire it.
Also remember, at high altitude, Kathy is oxygen deprived, one drink is the equivalent of two for a normal person and three for an older person, and can interfere with your medication’s. The incidence of stroke or bleeding of the brain is much higher. From my experience, something was really really off medically with Kathy this trip. She is a gracious lady, and deserves more than what her sister is giving.
@Diana Belchase. Very interesting point. There could be something medically "not right" with Kathy. 👍
Kathy is not alone there.
even if it were not a medical issue she was treated horrible ....no one supporting her brand was just mean. They always support each other but not this time. I dont blame her a bit. She was treated worse than the dog.
Totally agree. Also, I have 3 sisters. We love hard but we fight hard too. Sometimes when you're in a mood or irritated, it's easy to take that frustration out on the people closest to you. Whatever Kathy said about Kyle, I'm sure she didn't mean it. Lord knows I have said some nasty things to my sisters when I was angry. Rinna should just keep this shit to herself. I think Rinna is deflecting bc SHE is the one who is jealous, not Kathy.
Kyle hardly paid her any attention
Kathy is compromised. She's stressed. She's a little older, in an oxygen-poor
environment and, in my opinion, on benzodiazepines, mood stabilizers or both...she's been in a controlled environment since she married young. She does not do well on these trips because she isn't used to the pace. She got butt hurt and started making rich people threats, all because she can't write the script on these RHOBH excursions.
I predict we're all going to get a sob story at the reunion about all of the above as a get out of the hot seat strategy and Rinna is already salivating at the thought of calling her out.
Anyone care to place a bet?
Oh you got this absolutely CORRECT!!!!!! I totally agree!
You know Rinna always got time lol...I heard Kathy is doing damage control with her legal team
Time to “own it”
Thank you, this is what I was looking for.
Well said! I agree !!
Kyle always throw her sisters under the bus!
That's why Kyle wanted Kathy there. Kathy and Kyle were beefing for years about Mauricio scamming RICK
Always. I agree .
@@mkelly2462 Hi! I don’t understand it! 🤗🙄
That I believe
She just has boundaries. She's not going to enable bad behavior. And, like she said, Kathy will blame her. Sisters are complicated.
I hate that Rinna feels she can psychoanalyze Kathy’s situation… who is she to say how Kathy really feels? Kyle has been terrible to Kathy all season. I would be upset too. It’s called loyalty Rinna!
Oh god, Kathy is the next Lisa Vanderpump. Can we say 'victim' mentality?
I believe nothing Lisa Rinna Says
Until reality TV I didn't realize grown women behaved this way.
Some high school mean girls never grow out of being mean girls.
Not just grown but senior citizens
Wealthy women of privilege too
Lol
Age is just a number. No one tells you how to adult...especially privileged women who never had rules.
If you believe anything Rinna says, I have a tropical island to sell you in Nevada
Rinna saying Kyle has more? ... She is delusional
VERY
Harry hamlins beard is very tiresome
I kind of agree. Kathy has a famous last name. Kyle is famous on her own without Mauricio. Kyle and Mauricio have had more personal success together. I don’t know what Kathy does? She’s a Hilton, that’s all I know of her. Wed into money.
@@ryancienega3472 😂
@@Croberts3190 exactly! That’s it and that’s all!
Rinna is the most delusional woman on the face of this planet if she thinks Kyle if more popular than Kathy 😂I guess In the bravo universe
Didn't say more popular, and Kyle has done more on her own than Kathy.
Kathy married into money. Kyle started making money as little girl.
@@denisekidd613 but who has more money kathy does 😭 the Hilton are the og kardshains
Kathy can do no wrong in my eyes. They were being extremely passive aggressive, I personally can’t handle “friends “ like that.
I don’t believe anything that Lisa, Erika or Diana also Diana! 💯
Agree 💯
@@anneanderson5016 Hi! I have to see the it before I believe anything!🤗💯
Rinna is evil and Kyle is vile, Kyle built her careers on the back of the Hiltons and Kim, for Kyle to still be friends with someone like Rinna who continues to berate and talk down on her own sisters just shows how weak that woman is.
Ha!!
Oh please! Kyle didn't build anything on the backs of the Hiltons. She had her career and successful family life with Mauricio long before this.
@@jenniferlawrence9473 a career doing the Halloween movies every 20 years 😂😂😂 and she wouldn’t be on this show if she didn’t come from a famous family it’s not like she has multiple award winning movies 😂😂 she came up with Kathy marrying into the Hilton family she should learn how to be a better sister… ironic she did this to Kim and now she’s doing to Kathy? I think not
@@jenniferlawrence9473 I agree. I didn't even know Kyle was related to the Hilton's until the real housewives came out.
@@xkaylaxx8208 What do you mean marrying into the Hilton family. Kathy is her sister! lol Kathy married into the Hilton family. Not the other way around.
This clip is suspect. I don't believe Lisa... I need her to show the evidence, not her word.
Lisa Rinna over acting with that water bottle 😭😭
there is air in that can! because of the elevation in Colorado its harder for people to breathe so they sell air in a can to help.
It was canned oxygen. At that altitude it is difficult to adjust and your physical body takes a beating. They've been drinking which dehydrates you and doing strenuous exercise...and these ladies aren't teenagers.
@@kevinharvey8588 oh thanks, I thought it was just a random water bottle lol
If Rinna was actually a good housewife then she would have gotten out her phone and started taking video of Kathy’s meltdown.
She's scared of being sued. As she should be.
😂😂😂
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Duck lips Rinna is dirty always lying to trying to get something on somebody to make them look bad like Kathy Sutton garcelle and Krystal but Kyle Erika Diana and Dorit she want say a word witches cover for witches
Honestly I wouldn’t believe Rinna, how is she the only one who wanted to leave with Kathy. It smells of a set up. I wouldn’t walk with Rinna to the corner.
Lisa Please Kyle isn't more famous or has more money .GIRL BYE
This comment because if Kyle is mpre famous, why is she always dropping her noece"s aka Kathy kids every season.
Rinna has been trying to trash Kathy for years. Kathy had a mini breakdown, so what. Kathy has lived under the spotlight for years and with Kyle as a sister I'd throw lots of tantrums. We've seen Rinna's anger so she needs to shut up.
“Is the plane goin’ dayoon? Oar we gonna dyyye?” 😂😂 I adore Sutton’s accent.
How calculated was it of Rinna to have texted Erika INSTEAD of Kyle IF Kathy was having a breakdown? Why would Rinna not text Kyle about her sister? Smh these ladies are disgusting
Kathy already admitted that she said things about Kyle that she shouldn’t. Cleverly avoid traveling with the rest, not ready to be confronted.
Garcelle needs to let Sutton hang out to dry! It's so pathetic the wanting of the mean girls approval. She's the new Apologizer. Ramona move over. 😂
This is a total plot lol how can you guys not see it, plus never believe anything that comes out of Rinna's house
Agree 💯
This was seen at the club by all.
Kathy’s freak out was not that serious those liars are making it something it’s not!
Exactly. Erika can yell at children and try to screw one of them that is married, that's just her "letting loose," but if Sutton looks at someone wrong, it's a 4 episode story arc. They are coordinating this stuff behind the scenes to take out Kathy because she's on the show and more well liked than the rest of them.
Where you there?
Enough that she has to send legal threats
IF THIS HAPPENED AT THE CLUB SOMEONE OUT THERE WAS RECORDING IT!! THEY WOULD HAVE POSTED IT BY NOW!! LET'S GET REAL!!
So now they are after Kathy.... Big surprise! Isn't there something going on with them, Lisa, Kyle, Dorit and Erika and a big house and bank cards??? Looking forward to seeing justice for the victims.
Team Kathy all the way 🎉 we all have a breaking point, they were all being super bitchy, and they had alcohol at a high altitude. It makes a HUGE difference to drink in the mountains everyone at my wedding in vail got way too fucked up lol
I believe it . Her son displayed similar behavior on an airplane a couple years back .
I think this is a storyline for Lisa/ Ericka knowing that there contract is up. What better way to start up some BS with Kathy the fox 4 ladies are mean spirit?
All rhobh does is focus on one person to tear down and they all leech on them for a storyline. No one ever has their own personal storyline
Listen to you...Kathy imploded, for whatever reason. Kathy brought it on herself. Lost control and several saw it. I like her too but it sounds like a tantrum. She has admitted to it in another interview.
@@Tazzy5 they are stretching that so that they can have a storyline and something to talk about other than Ericka lashing off at people and Lisa yelling at people and using her mom death as an excuse to be inappropriate to people
Kathy not facing anyone the next day has guilt written all over it.
The other women have all thrown tantrum too, why can't Kathy have her moment. Hanging around those women would make anyone feel out of control.
Really weird that they didn’t catch this on camera hmmmm
I try to like Sutton but then she acts like a victim in the group but has all the slick comments in the confessional
Super suspicious that Lisa is the only one who left with her. Don't believe a word she says.
How do you just leave your sister and or friend behind? God forbid someone broke into that house after seeing them leave, thinking everyone was gone. I can't believe this. What is wrong with these people?
Sometimes I wonder if Kyle knows what she is doing. She is throwing her sisters under the bus for fame and money. One day she will regret this. When karma comes for her.
We don't know that. We really don't
Rena stirring the pot doesn’t make the show more interesting. Showing the women getting along and having fun is interesting not watching women tear each other down
Am I the only one noticing a pattern here? first Rena came in between Kyle and her sister Kim and now rena is coming between Kyle and her sister Kathy.
I used to be a fan of Kyle but now I see right through her, she’s earned her name Vile Kyle!
Did Lisa Rinna just fix her mouth to say Kathy is jealous because Kyle is richer and more famous? Huh?? Lisa must be on something strong because what??? Even as a young teen growing up in Nigeria, I knew the Hilton name. Today Kathy is worth 400million and Kyle 100 million. Wtf? 😂
Last reunion, Andy Cohen made the set where they filmed the reunion look like Kathy's home.
Andy hasn't done that for anyone else on the show yet Rinna thinks Kyle is more famous and successful ? Laughable
It's just weird in the club Kathy had a meltdown and nobody there recorded, even from a cell phone?
And if Bravo couldn't film in a club, they didn't film Kathy throwing things in Kyle's house like Rinna said? Everything is according to Lisa buy Bravo has no footage, it's strange.
There would be people who saw at the club. And, the driver. And, staff at Kyle's. Eye witness accounts, we know Rinna always has receipts.
okay, Erika without makeup looks so different!!!
She also takes on different personas depending on whether she’s wearing makeup or not lol. When she feels pretty, she’ll rip your head apart. When she’s feeling plain and exposed, she acts like a sweet little bunny 😒
@@siiiiiuu7 🤣😂 So true hahaha she has split personalities for sure. she needs some serious therapy.
She looks ghastly with no make up. 😳
The magic of makeup
Idk🤷♀️do they have footage?🤷♀️they always have footage unless it’s something we really need to see. I mean they covered the cameras on RHOA and we still got footage🤷♀️🤦🏽♀️
I hope Kathy does ruin Kyle
So everyone else is entitled to a breakdown but not Kathy?
I’m sorry but Kyle has been treating Cathy badly the entire show ridiculing her and then she didn’t support her about the tequila didn’t say anything to Lisa I think Kyel is afraid of Lisa. She put her sister in the basement which I thought was horrible she’s the oldest person there and maybe Lisa‘s. So what she said some bad things about her sister that is not a big deal but you know what is Erica‘s outburst that is a big deal. I wish Kathy had a little bit of a Main Street dinner and would take Lisa Rinna down
I'm so glad that Erica and Sutton forgives one another and Erica admitted she was wrong.
I hope that friendship grows....two southern belles that love a label. I'm here for that
Kyle is fake having her sister sleeping in bump bed then talk about her with Lisa knowing she dissed her sister. Just plane wack hell they all get break downs. Not fair she the only real one ☝🏾
They messy as hell
No seriously.. this lady been mixing too many pills again she forgot all the times she had a “break down” nearly choked Kim, cursed Sutton out & went around spreading lies an for Kyle to be cool with someone who said your sister was near death is SICK ON SO MANY LEVELS.
Rinna has a drug problem I think. Shes the one bringing out the edibles, carrying around a bag of pills, and putting xanax in her smoothies. She definitely acts like she's on something most of the time.
The way Rinna is acting like she’s never had a melt down and threatened to destroy everyone. Which she has literally said this season. The hypocrisy is gross
In the beginning ' When Erica filled for a divorce. I was disappointed in her for doing that to her husband who did so much for her. Then I began to see the TRUTH and my heart aches for her and I empathize with her and I STRONGLY believe she was a victim too in so many ways. I guess her foolishness to fall for a man's success and what he showered her with to win her. Cost her way more than what was given to her with MATERIAL things. I guess Karma got her for that dumb choice with her greed for such a lifestyle. Even if she made those choices. She doesn't deserve what happened to her .
Then when it comes to Kathy Hilton. I just can't imagine why she keeps trying to make Lisa look like she is being dishonest. When Lisa is telling the Truth. The humble thing should be by Kathy ' Admit what she said. word by word without trying to make Lisa look like a person who has made it all up. By throwing her under the bus to protect her image. FUCK the image. Show that you too can FUCK up and you are not perfect as everyone thinks of you to be. Just like the rest of the human race. It's OK to be not perfect and it's OK to FUCK up and it's OK to feel emotions and even act out BUT it's NOT OK to show the people who saw it all .Look like they have made it all up and then say to the world ' Those people are lying about you.When you know ' Its you who is lying and being dishonest.
I BELIEVE LISA ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WITHOUT A DOUBT. I JUST CAN'T STAND PEOPLE WHO THROWS OTHERS UNDER THE BUS TO PROTECT THEIR IMAGE. WHEN THEY HAVE FUCKED UP. I ADMIRE PEOPLE. WHO ADMITS IN THE MOST GENUINE WAY BEING SINCERE AND HUMBLE. NOT FUCKING ARROGANT. TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY DIDN'T DO SHIT WRONG .
I love Kathy and I don't love Lisa. But for ME ' MY loyalty is always to the truth. Being loyal to the truth is ' Being loyal to the UNIVERSE ( GOD ) ' I don't sacrifice that loyalty to any human being .If I do ' I will betray EVERYTHING I believe what TRULY loving GOD is about and should be.
Rina is so wrong!
Kathy is way more successful than Kyle.
And at the end they are sisters and should stick together. Rina should not be causing this family to split! Lisa thinks she's Oprah W.
So she left her sister without fixing the situation with your own blood??????,it says a lit about you Kyle, living your sister alone??????,like wow
I find it very funny how Kyle is the common denominator between both Kim and Kathy with the drama. Remember her and Kim were fighting over Kyle's shenanigans as well
Now everyone is against Kathy. No one can be all smiles and giggles all the time. She is human.
I believe Kathy had a meltdown and threw a tantrum. I believe there is footage from the van because the producers are everywhere. I also believe Kathy threatened to sue and that footage will never see the light of day. Kathy should have been one and done. If you have a good edit, Rinna will definitely be gunning for you. After this, Nicki won't let her do another season of this show. LOL
The hate for Kyle here is wildddd.. Kathy hasn’t always been a great sister, she’s clearly been an absent mother emotionally, so not immune to errors.. And some of the things she said to Kyle were vile. I think Kathy lives in her world where she thinks everyone will jump to her whim
Rena just doesn’t know how to be a friend. She turned her back on Denise Richard’s and now she turned her back on Kathy who was venting privately to her. Rena just thinks she’s on the set of a soap opera -no girl this is real life dont twist your roles. It’s like how she forgot saying “Kim is near death”
Rinna knows how to press peoples buttons. I am glad that she is no longer on the show. I also thought it was weird that Kyle was friends with Rinna. How could you be friends with someone that mistreated your sister?? Kyle knows nothing about loyalty.
Did Lisa Rinna suffer PTSD when she broke the glass on the table towards Kim? HYPOCRITES!
rinna is such a fool. Kyle does not "have more" than Kathy. so ridiculous
She’s just saying rich people shit I don’t think she meant that
Whatever Kathy said about Kyle- it’s a sister thing. Leave it alone, Rinna.
Kyle threw Kathy to the wolves like she did Kim. Both are empathetic women who are treated horribly by Kyle. She doesn’t deserve Kathy or Kim.
Is anyone else loving that food spread? Looks delish, and the glasses are so pretty too!
If we are listening to Rinna then we are all crazy 😂😂😂😂
Rinna’s comments were so ignorant. Kathy’s daughter is Paris freaking Hilton. If she wanted to be some big reality star in the public she would’ve joined real housewives a LONGG time ago. Being a reality star isn’t exactly life goals for most people.
Use to like Sutton in earlier seasons, but she’s turning into a mean girl just like the rest of them! Kathy has never spoken ill of any of them, now they’ve all banned together to try and get her off the show. And please Kyle, “glancing at Erika’s phone? “ Not buying it, she luvs that the group is portraying Kathy as the bad sister. A good sister would have taken her sister out of the situation from making a fool of herself
You can sell me a lot of BS..But Kathy Hilton being jealous of Kyle Richards is not something I’m buying 😂😂
That darn Lisa smart.. that’s how she gets the tea.. she the extraction Queen😂😂
Dorit is the definition of “pick me.”
Why no would Lisa discourage Kyle from being concerned about her sister? That’s shady af. Stay out of sibling rivalry and don’t fan the flames. She’s disgusting.
EW. Rinna is just an instigator. Stay out of family and sister drama. First Kim...now Kathy? Next will be Kyle. Watch!!!!
5:57 Kathy stole Kyle's God damn houseeee
😂😂😂😂