Trying to deal with an alcoholic is a nightmare. PK does not recognize this aspect of his past drinking and why she treated him the way she did during the drinking times. Now that he is sober he is blaming her for all of their arguments. Which is incorrect. Drunks are always arguementive, cunning, manipulative and use ALOT of "narcissist blame shifting" like PK is doing in this clip. Yes, PK is done with her but, he really needs to dig deep and realize HIS DRINKING causes MAJOR issues with the relationship. Often people will get sober but, they are still acting badly it's called "Dry drunk". he wont change & wont have any healthy relationships unless he gets treatment for his "Dry Drunk" behavior. Right now he is trying to control the conversation to make the viewers blame the relationship break up on her. That is not correct. Again Dealing with a alcoholic is a nightmare...even when they sober up they are manipulative and cunning. That IS what PK is doing in this clip with Dorit and the viewers. BEWARE dont get conned by "Dry Drunk" PK.
Say what you will about Dorit but she shared waaaay more about her separation than Kyle ever did about hers all last season. Must give the girl her flowers in that regard! 👏
I don’t think so. There’s a resigned air to him. Maybe not sad but he’s had enough. She’s said too much, too often, for too long. I think he’s right: too many past issues are weighing on them. He stopped drinking. What has D done? When PK was the big guy she was a different person. He’s telling her that. She doesn’t need him anymore. He sees and accepts that. I think he’s communicating with grace and firmness. He has self respect. He knows she doesn’t want him.
As a licensed professional counselor, reasons for addiction cover the root of mental health causes. PK is accussing her for his issues. Look at yourselves to reflect with therapy.
PK should do a Kyle and go get matching tattoos with Boy George and post pics and vids of him and Boy George working out together, sitting on eachother's laps, shopping together etc to fuel rumours that he's playing with Boy George's boy bits in the same way Kyle fueled rumours that she was playing Morgan's organ 🤣
he just ordered a non alcoholic beer. so he is stull looking at a beer. no different than looking at her drink. he is not tasting it. alcoholics cant go through life avoiding anybody with a drink! he wont be invited anywhere
@@scooter2501 I totally agree with you, but it’s just the fact that there’s alcohol in her cup when she knows that he has an issue yes him ordering a non-alcoholic beer is detrimental, but could you really not go one dinner without a drink?
@@kaylakennedy212 she asked him if it was ok. Im sure he has never expected her to not have a drink with her meal. So this is their normal. he seems perfectly fine with it so no need for others to be bothered.
That’s a really genuine conversation they are sharing. I’m sad it hadn’t worked out, they lost love and respect for each other. I wish them both happiness
I'm with Dorit on this convo, he verbatum said he used to like her more when she was 'more socially vibrant always with me' when they would go out to parties it sounds like all he just wanted was a trophy wife to show off with no voice, as soon as she got in the show and started to gain more autonomy building businesses of her own - whether they were viable or not- he literally said he felt emasculated he wasn't needed anymore, then he spent months away in London while their robbery happened and he had the nerve to show a total lack of empathy about her PTSD by showing her no support. or understanding. Its quite sad. I wish they could work things out but he sounds very superficial it's evident they are not on the same page. I'm liking this Dorit so much better.
This is sad but she keeps making his point over and over again. She just can't help herself. Talk less, listen more. If everyone is saying that you are dead, it's definitely time to lay down! Hope she sees it now that its airing because she wasnt when this was taped awhile back. The kids are so young, it's really sad. 😢
There’s a resigned air to him. Maybe not sad but he’s had enough. She’s said too much, too often, for too long. I think he’s right: too many past issues are weighing on them. He stopped drinking. What has D done? When PK was the big guy she was a different person. He’s telling her that. She doesn’t need him anymore. He sees and accepts that. I think he’s communicating with grace and firmness. He has self respect. He knows she doesn’t want him.
Im am alcoholic and sober for almost 2 months. I'm still going through withdrawals. People think that it's just going to go away in days. No, when I were a chain drinker for years, it took months and years. Yes, I understand what he means when he says he's itching. I get that too.
Hi littlevuggey93, this December will be 4 years with out having a drink, I used to drink only at home. it went from 2 medium glasses to almost a whole bottle of red wine my favourite. then is was 3 to 4 glasses of rum with cola, a glass of red wine a night. then one night I was fell asleep in front of the tv, woke up went to drink the rest of the wine, the smell just put me off. I would never drink alcohol if I was working the next day, which means the days I was not working, that night I began drinking a lot more than I should. I have had my moments when yes I would like to have a glass of wine but up until now I have not. for me it's easy cause I live by myself. keep going it does get easier. Be well Marilyn.
I think theyd be better as friends. But she hasnt given up yet cause she seems pissed how he is being so enthusaistic about his single era. I think he has been checked out for a while so he has moved on faster. I know she is not happy about it when they filmed this but she should take hope from the fact they can still talk to each other with affection. Its gonna make co-parenting so so much easier. You dont want a Kim/Kanye situation.
Thank you for this honest conversation about your separation. PK is right, it is not healthy to talk 5 times a day when you are separate. You have to get boundaries there.
Dorit will never grown and listen. She was probably super nasty to him and was probably allot like she was with Kyle at Suttons party towards PK when the cameras aren’t on. She doesn’t listen to anyone she lives in her own reality
Lets talk about why a whole other man was living with them from the very first season lets be fr now. Dorit callin out his drinkin like she hasnt done nothing is hilarious 😂her eyes been poppin out of her head from first season
where does he say he wants to come back later? you made that up. he literally says they need to stop being co-dependant & speaking 5 times a day. He says he will always be there for her. That sounds very final to me. If he was planning to come back he'd be stringing her along with hope. she isnt getting any hope here & she is pissed about it.
IMO it’s a lack of understanding cravings and struggle. I would never drink in front of a loved one or friend trying to recover. It’s really triggering Lord PK had his fill and is done with marriage
Men are very immature. My ex used to say the same about "Single me" blabla. And that was very hurtful😢. A year later, he is still single😅 and i am too, but with a long waiting list behind my back😊
I hate when people order fries on this show and between two people not even a dent is made in them. Then they just leave wasting the entirety full basket of fries. Denise and rinna did it too a few seasons back. Don’t order it if you’re not going to eat it, or at least pack it up to take home, you wasteful creatures
I'm not sure if "in a real marriage, spouse comes first." If young children or children in general don't come first, then I'm a bit concerned about that. What I DO know is that the wife always puts herself last. That's a given.
I think PK's ego couldn't take it that Dorit was more popular than him. He seemed to like when she was young, and had no life other than to cater to him and be his armpiece.
Say what you want, I still don't like her. Unlike f.e. Garcelle she puts up a front and certain fake persona, not authenthic and honest at all.... they are both quite unlikeable..
He's DONE with her.
that's exactly what I just said!
Man sees clearly now
Yup! He wants out!
Trying to deal with an alcoholic is a nightmare. PK does not recognize this aspect of his past drinking and why she treated him the way she did during the drinking times.
Now that he is sober he is blaming her for all of their arguments. Which is incorrect. Drunks are always arguementive, cunning, manipulative and use ALOT of "narcissist blame shifting" like PK is doing in this clip.
Yes, PK is done with her but, he really needs to dig deep and realize HIS DRINKING causes MAJOR issues with the relationship. Often people will get sober but, they are still acting badly it's called "Dry drunk".
he wont change & wont have any healthy relationships unless he gets treatment for his "Dry Drunk" behavior. Right now he is trying to control the conversation to make the viewers blame the relationship break up on her. That is not correct.
Again Dealing with a alcoholic is a nightmare...even when they sober up they are manipulative and cunning. That IS what PK is doing in this clip with Dorit and the viewers. BEWARE dont get conned by "Dry Drunk" PK.
Say what you will about Dorit but she shared waaaay more about her separation than Kyle ever did about hers all last season. Must give the girl her flowers in that regard! 👏
Dorit constantly talks at PK and not to him. He has the patience of a saint 🙏
He is seeing someone else for sure....😅
I said that
I don’t think so. There’s a resigned air to him. Maybe not sad but he’s had enough. She’s said too much, too often, for too long. I think he’s right: too many past issues are weighing on them. He stopped drinking. What has D done? When PK was the big guy she was a different person. He’s telling her that. She doesn’t need him anymore. He sees and accepts that. I think he’s communicating with grace and firmness. He has self respect. He knows she doesn’t want him.
@@justathought274well said👏👏👏
@@irriswarrirris no - he is just hurt
💯
He’s out bruh, man said sayonara ✌🏾
As a licensed professional counselor, reasons for addiction cover the root of mental health causes. PK is accussing her for his issues. Look at yourselves to reflect with therapy.
Period
PK should do a Kyle and go get matching tattoos with Boy George and post pics and vids of him and Boy George working out together, sitting on eachother's laps, shopping together etc to fuel rumours that he's playing with Boy George's boy bits in the same way Kyle fueled rumours that she was playing Morgan's organ 🤣
🤣😂😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why is she sitting there having a drink in front of her husband who clearly might have an issue no respect
Thank you, she's unreal.
he just ordered a non alcoholic beer. so he is stull looking at a beer. no different than looking at her drink. he is not tasting it. alcoholics cant go through life avoiding anybody with a drink! he wont be invited anywhere
@@scooter2501 I totally agree with you, but it’s just the fact that there’s alcohol in her cup when she knows that he has an issue yes him ordering a non-alcoholic beer is detrimental, but could you really not go one dinner without a drink?
@@kaylakennedy212 she asked him if it was ok. Im sure he has never expected her to not have a drink with her meal. So this is their normal. he seems perfectly fine with it so no need for others to be bothered.
She tried to make him drink.
That’s a really genuine conversation they are sharing. I’m sad it hadn’t worked out, they lost love and respect for each other. I wish them both happiness
Relax Dorit. No One truly Wants PK. You're lucky God was merciful enough to have your children look like you.
Omg that was so mean 😂
Only a fool can speak this way. You are human too, be careful what you say about others.
Jesu 😳😳
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Savage 🤣
I'm with Dorit on this convo, he verbatum said he used to like her more when she was 'more socially vibrant always with me' when they would go out to parties it sounds like all he just wanted was a trophy wife to show off with no voice, as soon as she got in the show and started to gain more autonomy building businesses of her own - whether they were viable or not- he literally said he felt emasculated he wasn't needed anymore, then he spent months away in London while their robbery happened and he had the nerve to show a total lack of empathy about her PTSD by showing her no support. or understanding. Its quite sad. I wish they could work things out but he sounds very superficial it's evident they are not on the same page. I'm liking this Dorit so much better.
This is sad but she keeps making his point over and over again. She just can't help herself. Talk less, listen more. If everyone is saying that you are dead, it's definitely time to lay down! Hope she sees it now that its airing because she wasnt when this was taped awhile back. The kids are so young, it's really sad. 😢
There’s a resigned air to him. Maybe not sad but he’s had enough. She’s said too much, too often, for too long. I think he’s right: too many past issues are weighing on them. He stopped drinking. What has D done? When PK was the big guy she was a different person. He’s telling her that. She doesn’t need him anymore. He sees and accepts that. I think he’s communicating with grace and firmness. He has self respect. He knows she doesn’t want him.
yes you said it well but I also feel he is done, he is still mourning but he is done
Im am alcoholic and sober for almost 2 months. I'm still going through withdrawals. People think that it's just going to go away in days. No, when I were a chain drinker for years, it took months and years. Yes, I understand what he means when he says he's itching. I get that too.
Hi littlevuggey93, this December will be 4 years with out having a drink, I used to drink only at home. it went from 2 medium glasses
to almost a whole bottle of red wine my favourite. then is was 3 to 4 glasses of rum with cola, a glass of red wine a night.
then one night I was fell asleep in front of the tv, woke up went to drink the rest of the wine, the smell just put me off. I would never
drink alcohol if I was working the next day, which means the days I was not working, that night I began drinking a lot more than I
should. I have had my moments when yes I would like to have a glass of wine but up until now I have not.
for me it's easy cause I live by myself.
keep going it does get easier. Be well Marilyn.
Thank you both for sharing. I hope you continue in your free alcohol journey with peace 🎉
One day at a time, bro.
First comment. All the way from SA. 😊☺️🌍🇿🇦
Coloured South African in Joburg here. Are you also liking Dorit this season? 😂🎉😅 I like her the more I watch.
Can't wait to visit SA❤
@@adrian100I just moved to Jhb a few months back. WhatsApp, maybe?
Aweeeee
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Where they go next is divorce - question answered.
PK is definitely done after this convo! 💯
I think theyd be better as friends. But she hasnt given up yet cause she seems pissed how he is being so enthusaistic about his single era. I think he has been checked out for a while so he has moved on faster. I know she is not happy about it when they filmed this but she should take hope from the fact they can still talk to each other with affection. Its gonna make co-parenting so so much easier. You dont want a Kim/Kanye situation.
shes always been annoying but he accepted her, never liked him, hes lucky he has money
Thank you for this honest conversation about your separation. PK is right, it is not healthy to talk 5 times a day when you are separate. You have to get boundaries there.
Dorit will never grown and listen. She was probably super nasty to him and was probably allot like she was with Kyle at Suttons party towards PK when the cameras aren’t on. She doesn’t listen to anyone she lives in her own reality
Shes delusional and she always has to be right
Single PK is staying single, money was his looks
He isn't making the money like he used to.
Why is she sitting there having a drink in front of her husband who clearly might have an issue no respect… but I kind of feel like he’s drunk
Hr might have drunk so much, even sober he's pickled 0:59
Because he should control himself and not demand she doesn’t drink just because he “isn’t” drinking! Blaming her of course 🙄
No but just out of pure respect... @@Perrywinkleable
An actually fascinating scene.
Lets talk about why a whole other man was living with them from the very first season lets be fr now. Dorit callin out his drinkin like she hasnt done nothing is hilarious 😂her eyes been poppin out of her head from first season
Dorits a great manipulator she tried to get on his good side,PK is right shes codopendant
He wants to go have fun then come back later… sadly by the time he is ready she might tap out
where does he say he wants to come back later? you made that up. he literally says they need to stop being co-dependant & speaking 5 times a day. He says he will always be there for her. That sounds very final to me. If he was planning to come back he'd be stringing her along with hope. she isnt getting any hope here & she is pissed about it.
IMO it’s a lack of understanding cravings and struggle. I would never drink in front of a loved one or friend trying to recover.
It’s really triggering
Lord PK had his fill and is done with marriage
Like them both.. hope they can work it out. Fr
Dorrit is highly narcassistic ...she's always look at me..
When he pulled her in for a hug, it melted my heart
PK has another woman that he feels passionate about. Sorry Dorit
Men are very immature. My ex used to say the same about "Single me" blabla. And that was very hurtful😢. A year later, he is still single😅 and i am too, but with a long waiting list behind my back😊
(edit again)
The insensitivity to the fact that her husband is dying from cirrhosis of the liver from all that drinking😢
Reality check much Dorito
Dorit grabbed a hug, he wasn't gonna go there. Both Kyle and Dorit want their husbands back. TRUTH. both men should run for the hills if they must.
no, i feel like Dorit doent want him any more
I hate when people order fries on this show and between two people not even a dent is made in them. Then they just leave wasting the entirety full basket of fries. Denise and rinna did it too a few seasons back. Don’t order it if you’re not going to eat it, or at least pack it up to take home, you wasteful creatures
Those fries look so good too! 🍟
@@vaderthekittenchannel1979that's what I was thinking 🤭
I have such a soft spot for Dorit. For the sake of their gorgeous babies, I hope they can continue to be civil and untied. 💕💕
PK and Dorit need to find a way to work this out. We ALL LOVE to see them together ❤
Speak for yourself😂😂
She doesn’t listen to him at all
She doesn't listen to anyone lol
I'm not sure if "in a real marriage, spouse comes first." If young children or children in general don't come first, then I'm a bit concerned about that. What I DO know is that the wife always puts herself last. That's a given.
I think PK's ego couldn't take it that Dorit was more popular than him. He seemed to like when she was young, and had no life other than to cater to him and be his armpiece.
PK is over Dorit because straight off the bat he was like "single PK".
Have a nice meal, please this girl does not eat food lol
Fight for your marriage, take time apart have therapy if needs be, but fight for your marriage.
He called himself "single PK". Pretty sure, the marriage is over.
She won't fight for her family. She needs a storyline.
Exactly its sad
for real 💯
I don’t why but I have a feeling this is just a fake separation I don’t know why
Storyline cuz she’s not had one for years
bs
Say what you want, I still don't like her. Unlike f.e. Garcelle she puts up a front and certain fake persona, not authenthic and honest at all.... they are both quite unlikeable..
I hope they get back together 😢
I wonder if the man still pays for dinner in this situation
Dorit🤮🤮🤮🤮
Single PK 😮 oh
But truly, PK is kind of a jerk actually he’s not kind of, HE IS A JERK!!
He was waiting for single pk life
PK got my respect.