Thanks for the Great Review. Nice work showcasing this product. (PS, fix your webstore login procedure and I would have bought this bag and pad from you. Because of how your webstore works, I purchased from Enwild)
Yes, the Diamond Park and Echo Park sleeping bags are only available in one size and they are made to fit up to the 30x78 Boundary Deluxe pad (used to be Q-core Deluxe) but will also work with smaller pads, it will just have a little slack in the sheet area.
Great looking bit of gear! Could you have the air pad only slightly full, then add bag, then fill continue to fill air pad or should air pad be fully inflated as in your demonstration?
You might be able to manage it with a little less air and fill it more after fitting, the air valve is accessible, but to me it's like doing the same thing twice. Then as you top it off you may end up going back and forth trying to adjust it and adjust the fit. I say to each their own, whatever you can do to make it work best for you is the best way. As long as it fits snugly in the end.
I reached out to Big Agnes because I was wondering about their temperature statements like 15 and 30. They said that they are the survival (extreme) temps with baselayer and hat on. Why dont they state comfort and limit temps aswell. Really confusing and no wonder ppl find them cold…. Other sellers state them as comfort level. So my question to you or anyone, what is the comfort level of the 30 or 15 diamond park if you have tried them? I have a pad with r4.4. Thanks.
Really glad you brough this up. I wish I knew why manufacturers always advertise the lower or survival limits instead of the comfort. Assuming it's a better selling point? The Diamond Park bags are a really good warm bag. My general rule of thumb for any down bags is add 10*F to whatever the manufacturer advertises it as. So the diamond park 30 would be comfortable at 40*F with all base layers being worn. Now we personally use the King Solomon 30*F double bag which is just like the diamond park bags, just a double version, and I sleep comfortably in that down to 50*F without many layers.... Feel free to call us here at the store and we can chat more about the various bags and what expectations to look for in sleep setups.
Big Agnes doesn't state the survival temp, but limit temp. For me +10 to the stated temp is still very comfortable, stated temp is a bit chilly but tolerable. I am a cold sleeper. My pad is R4.5 (according to big agnes, compared to other pads I have used I would have guessed a little bit lower than that.)
@@arpakyna Using the +10 to any down bag's advertised rating has been the general rule of thumb we tell our customers to get a better comfort temp idea, so spot on!
What size is the sea to summit sleeping pad? I’m wondering if this sleeping bag will fit a 72”x25” sleeping pad. Big Agnes states the bag will fit a 78x25-30 pad but I’m wondering if the sleeping bag is too long for a 72”.
Thanks for this video, I am going to be filming a lot of camping videos this summer and have to update/upgrade a lot of my gear before I do. Great information and well done!
If you think that's weird look into camping quilts. 😆 whenever you lay on the bottom of the sleeping bag it compresses all the insulation reducing it to having almost no insulating properties, or very little. Sleeping bag ratings are based on an Insulated pad anyway so you'll be fine.
Thanks for the video. I have recently purchased the echo park 20 and my sleeping mat just wanted to fold in on itself and I thought it was faulty. It seems ok once I’m laying on it though 😊
Hi, One of the added value of the Diamond Park sleeping bag is about Inner fabric buckles for sleeping bags linings but then what bag sheet do you propose me to get in order to associate it with the diamond park?
I'll work on that. I was in a hurry yesterday to get the video done for today and forgot a lot of little details I should have added, like showing pack size 🤦🏻♂️
The Sea To Summit pad is 25" wide and the Big Agnes Q-Core Deluxe Pad is 30" wide. The Big Agnes Diamond park sleeping bags are made to fit pads 78" tall and 25-30" wide.
@@MotoCampNerd Thanks for the quick response. Looks like a great bag. At my age (61) I need to be able to get a good nights sleep or I’m no good. I would like to see videos directed at motorcycle campers like myself who like to camp, but just can’t do it the way we used to in our 20’s and 30’s.
Just the square pads. An alternate to this would be a quilt that attaches to the pad as well. We carry Enlightened Equipment quilts that come with a pad strap.
Just ordered and a new sleeping pad I can't wait. Time to replace the Nemo Jazzy.
Just ordered. I have been wanting one for over a year and FINALLY ordered. I'm in for some real comfort this season!!!
It will be just like sleeping on your bed at home, but better cause you'll be camping! As always, thank you for supporting us!
Thanks for the Great Review. Nice work showcasing this product. (PS, fix your webstore login procedure and I would have bought this bag and pad from you. Because of how your webstore works, I purchased from Enwild)
Thank you so much for the video, this was very helpful. I have one question though, does the regular bag fit a 30 inch pad?
Yes, the Diamond Park and Echo Park sleeping bags are only available in one size and they are made to fit up to the 30x78 Boundary Deluxe pad (used to be Q-core Deluxe) but will also work with smaller pads, it will just have a little slack in the sheet area.
Thank you so much brother, couldn't find musch information out there. This was very helpful, I will order one.
Great looking bit of gear!
Could you have the air pad only slightly full, then add bag, then fill continue to fill air pad or should air pad be fully inflated as in your demonstration?
You might be able to manage it with a little less air and fill it more after fitting, the air valve is accessible, but to me it's like doing the same thing twice. Then as you top it off you may end up going back and forth trying to adjust it and adjust the fit.
I say to each their own, whatever you can do to make it work best for you is the best way. As long as it fits snugly in the end.
I wanna see how small it compresses. Havent seen anyone show videos of this
Please keep making these videos!! I'm new to moto camping and these video help me decide what products to buy.
👍Will do! Thanks for watching!
I reached out to Big Agnes because I was wondering about their temperature statements like 15 and 30. They said that they are the survival (extreme) temps with baselayer and hat on. Why dont they state comfort and limit temps aswell. Really confusing and no wonder ppl find them cold…. Other sellers state them as comfort level.
So my question to you or anyone, what is the comfort level of the 30 or 15 diamond park if you have tried them? I have a pad with r4.4. Thanks.
Really glad you brough this up. I wish I knew why manufacturers always advertise the lower or survival limits instead of the comfort. Assuming it's a better selling point? The Diamond Park bags are a really good warm bag. My general rule of thumb for any down bags is add 10*F to whatever the manufacturer advertises it as. So the diamond park 30 would be comfortable at 40*F with all base layers being worn. Now we personally use the King Solomon 30*F double bag which is just like the diamond park bags, just a double version, and I sleep comfortably in that down to 50*F without many layers.... Feel free to call us here at the store and we can chat more about the various bags and what expectations to look for in sleep setups.
Big Agnes doesn't state the survival temp, but limit temp. For me +10 to the stated temp is still very comfortable, stated temp is a bit chilly but tolerable. I am a cold sleeper. My pad is R4.5 (according to big agnes, compared to other pads I have used I would have guessed a little bit lower than that.)
@@arpakyna Using the +10 to any down bag's advertised rating has been the general rule of thumb we tell our customers to get a better comfort temp idea, so spot on!
What size is the sea to summit sleeping pad? I’m wondering if this sleeping bag will fit a 72”x25” sleeping pad. Big Agnes states the bag will fit a 78x25-30 pad but I’m wondering if the sleeping bag is too long for a 72”.
It will still fit the 72" long pads without too much slack if you use the 25" wide versions, but the bottom sheet won't be as tight.
Zips on both side. Well I know what I'm gonna be buying soon! Thanks for sharing this great gear like always!
You're welcome. Gotta get the most sleeping comfort you can when riding hard all day
Thanks for this video, I am going to be filming a lot of camping videos this summer and have to update/upgrade a lot of my gear before I do.
Great information and well done!
Thank you! Can't wait to see those videos when they come out.
WTF good is a sleeping bag with no insulation on the bottom.
If you think that's weird look into camping quilts. 😆 whenever you lay on the bottom of the sleeping bag it compresses all the insulation reducing it to having almost no insulating properties, or very little. Sleeping bag ratings are based on an Insulated pad anyway so you'll be fine.
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Thank you! Glad to have you here!
Hello, It seems no compression bags is provided per default, what are the compression bags working with the Diamond Park?
Thanks for the video. I have recently purchased the echo park 20 and my sleeping mat just wanted to fold in on itself and I thought it was faulty. It seems ok once I’m laying on it though 😊
Hi, One of the added value of the Diamond Park sleeping bag is about Inner fabric buckles for sleeping bags linings but then what bag sheet do you propose me to get in order to associate it with the diamond park?
Great review - could you show its size when packed with and without the bottom?
I'll work on that. I was in a hurry yesterday to get the video done for today and forgot a lot of little details I should have added, like showing pack size 🤦🏻♂️
Cool - i like the potential use for both tent and hammock camping...
@@wereeves Check out the new video PART 2 showing the pack size and using it as a mummy.
How much does the top part as a quilt weigh
🙌 yesss Big Agnes bringing the comforts of home to the backcountry 😊
It's like being buried in a bed of blankets
:D I couldn't agree more, Amanda!!!
This looks like a killer combo 👌 I need it!
The inner label literally says "mother of comfort" and it's not wrong 😁
@@MotoCampNerd that's awesome 👌
Is that Sea to Summit pad the Regular or Large version?
It's the xtra large 78"x25" version
Best part of the bag is you can unzip the foot area for extra air on warmer nights.
We also like that feature and are starting to add more bags with the ability to open just the foot box.
Good day is the sea to summit bag a 25"? Was wondering if this bag/blanket works on a 25" pads. Thanks.
The Sea To Summit pad is 25" wide and the Big Agnes Q-Core Deluxe Pad is 30" wide. The Big Agnes Diamond park sleeping bags are made to fit pads 78" tall and 25-30" wide.
@@MotoCampNerd This bag is really nice. Hopefully to upgrade into this soon. Ride safe. 👊
Really wish they had a slightly smaller version! Just don't need quite this much width, and would rather have the smaller pack
What are your thoughts on the Enlightened Equipment quilts?
@@MotoCampNerd haven't tried them yet. ATM, using the Zenbivy, and loving it
When will you have that system in stock.
Unfortunately we won't be able to get any more of the diamond park bags back in stock from Big Agnes until February 2022.
Hello, Can we bend our legs as we can with a Nemo forte or Nemo disco ( sleeping bags designed to sleep on the side) for example?
Yes you can. More room than the disco
@@MotoCampNerd Thank you
Will this bag work with a Nemo Cosmo 3D 30” x 80” mattress…?
It should because it will fit the Big Agnes Q-Core Deluxe 30x78 pad so the extra 2" in length shouldn't be a problem. It will be a snug fit.
@@MotoCampNerd
Thanks for the quick response.
Looks like a great bag.
At my age (61) I need to be able to get a good nights sleep or I’m no good.
I would like to see videos directed at motorcycle campers like myself who like to camp, but just can’t do it the way we used to in our 20’s and 30’s.
nice video, i was wondering if this can fit to a mummy sleeping pads or just a square
Just the square pads. An alternate to this would be a quilt that attaches to the pad as well. We carry Enlightened Equipment quilts that come with a pad strap.
@@MotoCampNerd tanks well i might have to consider buying a new pad then haha