Xbox: Profoundly Wasteful

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  • Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
  • Microsoft just closed Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, and Alpha Dog Games, contrary to their own words and the success of some of their recent games. This isn't the first time, and it likely won't be the last. Xbox has a long history of being unreliable, incompetent, and immensely wasteful.
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    ➤ CHAPTERS
    0:00 Context
    1:17 Microsoft's History of Waste and Incompetence
    8:04 Arkane and Tango: Unnecessary Closures
    14:02 The Immediate Fallout
    17:52 Answers, or Attempts at Them
    23:10 Closing Thoughts
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  • @Orange_Swirl
    @Orange_Swirl 18 днів тому +22

    A "waste" is right. There were so many goddamn things Xbox could have done to ensure their success in the modern gaming climate, even in the Japanese market.
    Microsoft actively shooting themselves in the foot by closing down Tango Gameworks and studios that had a previous history of mostly good games (such as Arkane Austin) is just the cherry on top of this Wasted Potential ice cream.

  • @skrotosd
    @skrotosd 17 днів тому +15

    finally corporate gaming is dying, let indie studios with small budgets and big hearts rise like a phoenix from the ashes of this disgraceful industry.

    • @elhazthorn918
      @elhazthorn918 16 днів тому +4

      Second western gaming crash, let's go! 🎉

    • @jaythomas468
      @jaythomas468 13 днів тому +1

      ⁠@@elhazthorn918
      Exactly.
      Lord knows the Japanese AAA market has their share of problems as well but at least the likes of Capcom, Square Enix, From Software, Nintendo, and PlayStation are still generally putting out decent games.
      Whereas the Western hemisphere is infested by shortsighted Western greed.

    • @Zalkova
      @Zalkova 6 днів тому +1

      @@jaythomas468 Looks like you're stuck at the 6th gen era when it come to japanese game.

    • @jaythomas468
      @jaythomas468 5 днів тому

      @@Zalkova
      TF are you talking about?
      Compare any MAJOR Japanese release to a Western one presently and 9 times out of ten, it’s NOT the Japanese ones that require patches and updates just to make the game tenable.

  • @TerraFuu
    @TerraFuu 18 днів тому +11

    This is depressing.

  • @RenegadePandaZ
    @RenegadePandaZ 17 днів тому +10

    Microsoft never understood the gaming market, as much as I love the orignal Xbox and 360, torwards the end of its life they really showed how little they cared about the industry. Once the Xbox one came out, I stopped supporting them. They thought they could just throw money at studios to buy exclusivity and then dump them.

  • @MARKHENSTROM
    @MARKHENSTROM 17 днів тому +11

    There goes my hopes of Ghostwire Tokyo ever getting the performance fixes to get rid of the stutters in that game. Such a shame. Gorgeous art direction. Great use of Unreal.
    Prey was a masterpiece. That moment of the Apex arriving still is the scariest moment I've ever experienced in a video game.
    I still adore my game pass subscription though. Wouldn't change it for the world. Why MS mentions "over 100 games" in their marketing when I'm getting 450+ titles for that $10/month is a mystery to me though.

  • @ZetaRidge7
    @ZetaRidge7 18 днів тому +11

    It is a damn shame that Microsoft and its Xbox brand are going down this route. And quite frankly, I'm not surprised either considering that Microsoft is mainly a software company but at the same time they have so much money and have such high budgets you'd think using the budget reasonably and having better management (at least for Microsoft Games in the last few years) would make sense. But then again we live in the days where greed and cost-cutting to a ridiculous degree rules almost all and sooner or later it will have ever lasting consequences in the long run.
    I don't have any high hopes for things to turn around anytime soon so at this point a video game market crash is mostly certain.

    • @JamalBlakk
      @JamalBlakk 17 днів тому +3

      But games are software and gaming has been on PC for decades. Things were showing promise with the first two consoles. Xbox wasn’t the same after Seamus Blackley and J Allard left.

  • @bunonregs913
    @bunonregs913 16 днів тому +5

    after last gen the nail in the coffin was gamepass, from the start it was obvious gamepass wasnt sustainable, and despite what xbox fan accounts parrot on twitter say, it is not the best deal in gaming as a MAIN focus for a platform. I bet internally they looked at game pass and thought "this is the ultimate live service idea" not realising live service is not what will keep gaming alive

  • @TheBasedDonHoly
    @TheBasedDonHoly 17 днів тому +6

    Im surprised they haven't canned 343 yet

  • @qualiacontrol
    @qualiacontrol 15 днів тому +3

    Peanut butter on bread is a bad analogy for being "spread too thin"

  • @DLxxx
    @DLxxx 16 днів тому +3

    Excellent video! And by far the most organized and well articulated one I've ever seen on this topic.
    Though I'm sure you already heard, but you're comment at 13:11 was so perfect considering the utterly laughable corpo-babble Sarah spewed when asked about the situation. Tango was gleefully celebrating their anniversary back in march, hosting a big, triumphant party, and Sarah commented on their twitter post with "Here's to many more." Only to shut them down unceremoniously 2 months later. It was SO abrupt that Tango's website still says that they're hiring new people, lol (tho maybe someone finally got that fixed). Also, lets not forget that Xbox EXPLICITLY STATED they'd be "reinvesting in Tango Gameworks" last year. They have blatantly lied to and about this company over and over, and it's sickening to look back on in hindsight.

  • @nathanbraun2067
    @nathanbraun2067 18 днів тому +12

    didn't microsoft close a bunch of studios during 360 era, then in xbone era they had no games?

    • @FTChomp9980
      @FTChomp9980 17 днів тому +3

      History repeating itself

    • @Zalkova
      @Zalkova 6 днів тому

      Xbox 360 and 7th gen fans won't acknowledge that because they're retarded and hypocrites.

  • @gethinfiltrator6700
    @gethinfiltrator6700 17 днів тому +5

    Just imagine what's the morale in the rest of the studios when they closed Tango. What were they thinking? Were they thinking at all?

  • @chrisrosenkreuz23
    @chrisrosenkreuz23 18 днів тому +13

    It is beyond inane

  • @nguyenhuudailoc
    @nguyenhuudailoc 17 днів тому +5

    Hi-Fi RUSH is one of the few games that I can play for hours without having motion sickness, and it has music that will lift up my day under any circumstance. But now I don't get to enjoy the sequel anymore. I'm pissed off.

  • @hgmd3284
    @hgmd3284 18 днів тому +7

    At this point, when is it too much For everyone? When will it all break down? And what will Happen to Xbox and all the studios they own?
    Oblivion that’s what, not untuill everyone does something. Or we abolish money or shareholders as a whole.

  • @vorcanvorcan9032
    @vorcanvorcan9032 17 днів тому +2

    It's probably still about money, even if it's not about "finances".
    In the end, there is a reason. And I personally think it is possible that there's a bunch of people at the top who were trying to manipulate things to be favourable to them in some way in the future.
    Remember how people were saying big AAA studios and companies were sort of... Panicking due to baldur's gate 3 seemingly setting a new norm?
    With the way entertainment in general seems to have been tarnished over the last decade. (basically all our beloved stuff has been damaged beyond repair, anything less than a complete purge of [the new stuff] would be insufficient as a repair.)
    And looking at how big names just [went along with it]. I think it could come down to two potential things;
    1. It made money so they said "fuck it... Let's see how far we can take this before we're forced to make changes to keep profits up."
    2. The sooner we collectively "forget" how good things used to be, the easier it will be to peddle lesser things to the people.
    Don't forget, children don't tend to be very aware of these things. And with the way young people used to look at [old skool entertainment], it's not that out of the question that big companies at the time tried to make use of that to make a new status quo that would be more favourable for said companies going forward.
    1. Get everyone used to shittier products.
    2. Then things that are then made to be better than said shitty products will seem pretty decent in comparison. Even though they may still pale in comparison to what came before.
    It reminds me of that thing where someone said something to the effect of; [We want people to get used to not owning their games.]
    In the end it's just not really been about creating something to the best of our abilities. In the end, we are all collectively addicted to and trapped by the systems we've created. We can keep acting like these and more situations are stupid and crazy, but we kind of allow it to happen by not actually growing up as a species.
    We can't just expect ourselves to exist properly without actually dealing with ourselves. And no, dealing with Microsoft or whatever/whomever else, doesn't actually equate to [dealing with ourselves]. Hence the fact that even if Microsoft goes bankrupt, another company will simply take its place later down the line as history has proven to be the case with just about every single problem created by human hands. 🤷
    It will never end, not until we address ourselves and put in some actual, active effort into maturing as a species. (instead of playing [the game of societies]... 🤦)

  • @crysanthiumvega
    @crysanthiumvega 16 днів тому +2

    you consistently offer something new to the conversation. your tendency to historicize your commentary offers you insight that others who are just riding a wave lack.

  • @baki484
    @baki484 16 днів тому +3

    I was hoping Hifi rush has a physical release.
    Daddy Phil is what they called him when he was making these massive acquisitions as they championed him and his bullshit.

    • @elhazthorn918
      @elhazthorn918 16 днів тому

      Limited Run Games is making a print.

  • @dethskullcrusher
    @dethskullcrusher 17 днів тому +5

    Xbox is going to become an IP Graveyard.
    If we are lucky Obsidian is gonna release Avowed, but not soon after they're gonna be dismantled and the "lucky" people will be reassigned to TESVI and Fallout, the rest farewell.
    I fear for Machine Games and Ninja Theory, i'm sure they will be closed aswell. Everything is going to be Call of Duty now.
    Gaming was fun while it lasted, is time to star dusting our backlogs.

  • @deftoned2
    @deftoned2 18 днів тому +10

    Always knew Xbox was dead in Japan, but what really made me fully realize it was seeing one shelf that only had a handful of Xbox games on a floor filled with new games from Sony and Nintendo in Akihabara. Just a handwritten green sign that said Xbox next to it. And it was off in a corner kinda blocked by boxes and supplies. On another day I went to a couple used game stores and I don’t think I saw a single Xbox game.

    • @straightfrommissouri
      @straightfrommissouri 17 днів тому

      so many xbox boys where i live went to playstation when the ps4 came out. there are only like 3 guys i know of that still have an xbox

    • @FrancisYorkMorganFBI
      @FrancisYorkMorganFBI 17 днів тому

      i remember back in like 2018 i checked on some of the console sales in japan for i think the holiday session.(probably out of boredom)
      both nintendo and sony had the numbers you would expect from them. as for xbox.... it was 63. not thousand or million just 63.
      i always knew that they had a hard time in japan, but that really put it into perspective for me how bad it really was. it don't even remember the numbers the other 2 pulled, but i won't forget just seeing that 63 there on that sales list next to those other huge sales numbers.

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog 17 днів тому +1

      @@straightfrommissouri ps5 got no games either they are both dead... SEGA its time to "rise from your Grave!"

    • @straightfrommissouri
      @straightfrommissouri 17 днів тому +2

      @@snintendog it'd be so badass for sega to make a comeback, dreamcast had so many damn games!!

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog 17 днів тому

      @@jimmymac2292 mobile market is just gambling remove it and no one will play anything on mobile phones.

  • @JammyGuns
    @JammyGuns 17 днів тому +2

    Another great video on an admittedly depressing subject. Glad to see momentum for the channel picking up, well deserved!

  • @kelownatechkid
    @kelownatechkid 16 днів тому +2

    DRM killed xbox for me. On the console side, everything is online-locked (can't even use a new xbox without internet) with activation, a subscription, or on PC where they use UWP (or worse). Hi-fi rush for example has Denuvo - why would any remotely-savvy buyer give them money for that? Awful.

  • @CorthosFellrin
    @CorthosFellrin 16 днів тому +2

    It's a shame, but I hope these people leave the company and go independent. They will have a better chance like that

  • @elhazthorn918
    @elhazthorn918 16 днів тому

    Haha! I forgot about that whole Resident Evil 4 thing! 😂

  • @roadrunnermjp
    @roadrunnermjp 17 днів тому +1

    Oh my god some of those exec quotes! 😮

  • @SurvivenTerry
    @SurvivenTerry 13 днів тому +2

    Microsoft knows nothing about its gamers and has no real plan tho the most easy plan is in front of them and they cant see it....i give it about 3 years or less before Microsoft falls apart or is picked apart

  • @keijijohnson9754
    @keijijohnson9754 17 днів тому

    Honestly while i agree about most of the stuff here,im not really one to agree about the multimedia focus being poorly timed here. I would think of it as them being too AHEAD of their time with such a focus more since many haven't yet to be more engulfed with the whole digital age of streaming services and the like. Honestly, with what it had going for it like with the multitasking features like Snap Mode (which is one of my favorite features of the console to this day) it probably would've done a bit better had they've been more implemented features for the Xbox Series X and S.

  • @RebelNutts-gg1xf
    @RebelNutts-gg1xf 17 днів тому +1

    Yet I bet they will still support 76 and starfield endlessly.

  • @Zalkova
    @Zalkova 6 днів тому

    They should've never come to the video game industry in the first place, they're a blight to the video game industry.

  • @poncut5074
    @poncut5074 6 днів тому +1

    Correction, capitalism in general leads to the unending search for infinite growth, regardless of realistic expectations..

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo 17 днів тому +3

    why are you picking on poor little Microsoft, they’re just a scrappy bunch of independent creatives, don’t you like indies? oh my god it’s like you’re expecting them to act like a major player with twenty years of hard won marketplace experience. and dozens of billions in just the *recent* round of acquisitions.
    Xbox Tax, Media Bias, Sony pony, blah blah, rah rah

  • @BigBadBalrog
    @BigBadBalrog 17 днів тому +1

    This video turned me communist
    (This is a good thing)

  • @The80Kat
    @The80Kat 17 днів тому +2

    That’s what happens with women calling the shots, you need men. And if you would have made physicals of hi fi rush it would have doubled in sales

    • @WeeWeeJumbo
      @WeeWeeJumbo 17 днів тому +5

      this kind of reasoning will keep Xbox in the doghouse.
      Phil Spencer is a man, what the hell has he done for the brand?

    • @RedStar441
      @RedStar441 17 днів тому +9

      The issue isn't gender, it's culture and right now American games companies are using the most anti-consumer culture they could possibly think up to help their investors bottom line.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 16 днів тому

      I was shocked the hifi rush didn't have a physical release when I wanted to buy it.

  • @oo--7714
    @oo--7714 17 днів тому

    I think the hate is misguided.
    So let me get this straight, people are made about a studio who only released 5 games in 13 years? None of those games were huge sellers and were in fact very niche games. Per Shinjis interview, Tango has financial troubles even pre Zenimax acquisition. So when a studio is in a hole and continues to be in a hole and then pitches a game that's 5 plus years out with HiFi Rush not having much engagement, what is supposed to happen?
    I'm not denying that Tango had well received games but they were a studio that seemed to have had issues years before Microsoft even bought them.

    • @ContrastCopy
      @ContrastCopy 17 днів тому +1

      But, then why not just say that. Why won’t Microsoft just tell us.

    • @DLxxx
      @DLxxx 16 днів тому +1

      D-.. Did you not watch the actual video? Or keep up with any of news at all? This isn't _just_ about Tango. It's about Microsoft breaking the trust of consumers and developers because of their out of touch, often contradictive statements and decisions. Some of the things they've said are outright lies: they explicitly said they'd "reinvest in Tango" after Hi-Fi's success, and then shut them down not even a year after saying this, without giving them the chance to do *literally anything.* When people were asking (LAST YEAR) if they were going to shut down Arkane due to the potential failure of Redfall, Microsoft responded by saying that they wouldn't give up on the company just because a game flopped. Fast forward to now, and that's exactly what happened (it was SO abrupt and poorly communicated that the developers were still working on the DLC hours before the shutdown, and because the DLC was never released, many consumers had to get refunds).
      So what was supposed to happen? They were supposed to keep their word. Now no one knows what "success" looks like to them anymore, or even if successful, quality games are enough to keep a studio afloat (not that they couldn't ignore a flop anyway; Microsoft is a 3 *TRILLION* dollar company).

    • @elhazthorn918
      @elhazthorn918 16 днів тому +4

      Wait, you think 5 games in 13 years is slow? Are you being ironic right now? 5 games in 13 years in one every 2-3 years. How often does Bethesda put out a title? I think the hate isn't misguided. I think people who try to defend the corporate suits from criticism, and the ones who fight for their favourite plastic box are misguided.