Is This ALTHISTORY Too Far? New DLC?
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2024
- 🌎 Prepare for an epic journey through the heart of South America in Hearts of Iron IV's upcoming DLC, "Trials of Allegiance"! Join us on the FeedbackGamingIRL channel as we delve into the intricacies of this highly anticipated expansion, with a particular focus on the power struggles in Brazil, Argentina, and Chile.
🇧🇷 Explore the political landscape of Brazil as it grapples with internal challenges and international pressures. Witness the rise of new leaders, navigate complex allegiances, and shape the destiny of this dynamic nation on the brink of change.
🇦🇷 In Argentina, the Trials of Allegiance unfold against a backdrop of political intrigue and regional dynamics. Experience the struggles for power, the choices between democracy and authoritarianism, and the impact of these decisions on the fate of the nation.
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I think the point of the contradicting effects is that once you remove those bad effects you have those positive ones in their full strength
Makes sense, but I can see where Dave is coming from in wanting less text bloat. Why have them contradictory and taking up six lines of text when one can slim them down and use up half the space?
@@TurbulentEitri sure but then when you remove the bad national trait you will also remove the good effects unless Paradox does a mess of a job in the code so when the bad traits are removed the good ones remain but the trait changes name and image, it just seems unnecessary
It's not just about removing traits entirely, but having it where instead of having -15% construction speed in one trait and +10% construction speed on another, one would have -5% construction speed that can be improved to +10%. This ends up with less bloat overall while having the same effect.
It is entirely possible for traits to be "replaced" which end up improving a singular national spirit with new names and icons. I've done that plenty myself with mod projects on HOI4.
Yes, was about to comment the same. I don't get what the big mystery is, it's an insentive to fix the debuffs, duh.
@@TurbulentEitri as someone else said it can be used as an insentive to get rid of the debuffs while also making it easier, you not having to go through the focus tree to know that you will get good effects if you remove the debuffs
I guess the next DLC will be about middle east, since we got Africa and South America covered now
Ethiopia and the floppy wiener tree that is South Africa don't really justify as a "Africa" Focus tree collection.
you didnt noticed that with the focus "union of hispanic republics" u can core all of south america
Chile is a massive country, in length it goes from the top of norway to cairo in egypt, the map makes it look smaller
As a Chilean HOI4 player I am very excited to have a focus tree in the game and everything looks pretty good
Saludos desde chile
13:25 Supress the Nachos!
As a chilean fan, this tree seems FAR better than the argentinean one !
As a argentinian fan ,this tree seems FAR better than the chilean one !
So sad considering Argentina was key in ww2 is the americas as the largest pro axis country
@@theboysclips2094 as a Tannu Tuva fan, this tree seems FAR better than the chilean and argentinian ones !
@@theboysclips2094 better the chilean one
Chile campeon!!!
Chila wasn't completely under the incan empire, only the northern half was and there most of the population weren't quechua so chile probably shouldn't get a path to reform the tawantinsuyu (incan empire)
The national myth mostly centers around the mapuche who live in the south and fought to keep their independence from the inca and then from the spanish
Edit: on the other hand the recreating the incan empire is in the meme branch along with recreating the brazilian empire
My thoughts exactly!
It wouldn't be a good idea to burn it on Chile as well since they need to do a second rotation of focus trees in South America with Peru and Bolivia at some point in the future... so they better make a Mapuche path and a reference to Prussian military advisors in the Chilean army instead!
@@Axopriem2th having read the whole thing they have done both, along with decolonizing the entirety of the americas under mapuche supervision (and a french king)
@@Axopriem2th dude mapuche path is imposible... they were just a tribe. Recolectora, not even agricultors... they didnt even develop that. Just recolectors and hunters in different tribes... until the 1700. No sense to add them, no gaining fron them.
@@NickGalaz ...same thing with the pope path for Italy or Anastasia Romanov for Poland. Of course it's silly; That's why it's one of two non-aligned paths for Chile if you look into the dev diary. You're talking about their situation around EU4... In Hoi they can hold a gun, work the factories and have real life aspirations to form a nation: That's good enough for a Paradox dev!
Monarchist sentiment in Brazil was actually somewhat relavant even till 1993. And classified as an empire for having spanish and portuguese speakers in its lands. Not so much of a meme.
Chile’s focus tree looks like a massive shitpost and it’s funny as hell.
One thing that would be interesting is that the government suffers a coup d'état by the generals the image of the leader and he is in army clothes but if he becomes the leader without a coup d'état he is in standard politician clothes
Honestly at this point I am beyond the idea of it "making sense" in the focus trees.
The Greeks can just declare the Byzantine Empire, Russia can declare Third Rome, and Spain can invoke the treaty of Tordesillas by gun point.
Am I supposed to give a damn because Chile has "Insert unrealistic aspect" ?
The problem is how... brazen the Mapuchean path feels like. Considering the actual percentage of native Americans anywhere north of Yucatan is abysmally small, this is very clearly a path of severe colonialism/imperialism/apartheid, if not outright genocide. And yet it is framed as an act of liberation.
We are not supposed to think we are the good guys when Fascist Greece restores the Byzantines, or when Nationalist Spain recreates one of the largest and most brutal empires in history, and yet when we are shown United States of Native America I think Paradox expects us to cheer for them.
I think you're reading a little too hard into the concept there.
Of course people cheered when they restored the Byzantines or Nationalist Spain recreates their empire.
Not cause of any moral implications but because it's incredibly difficult.
Not everyone plays map painting the same way. Brazen or not, this game has already lost that edge to it a long time ago.
It's not a WW2 game anymore, it's been a sandbox game with WW2 in the middle for ages now.
Bro, the Spanish Empire was by far the least brutal, natives had rights and nobles intermarried with European nobility
Was kind of looking for a comment like this. I mean... Does anyone really care for such historical events?
My problem is just irregularity with focus trees. Some are too historical for their own good, and some are just forcing it. If you're gonna aim for a goal (Historical x Fun), then all the other focus trees should follow suit.
_Or maybe I'm just asking for a complete refresh of the old ones, that may be too. I honestly wouldn't care for South America if I could have an improved German/British tree._ *And I'm Brazillian, so there's that!*
Maybe paradox could’ve not wasted dev time on a continent which only exists to lag the game. Instead of work on China or Japan or Germany we get crap paths of restoring nonexistent ethnic groups power made by guys who never even knew the history of the region.
I personally love those contradict effects. They mean that sometimes you cant't rush to solve the problems, because you lose the positive effects. For example, Greece have the slacht-plan that gives you some debuffs, but they give you negative consumer goods. You want to get rid of that debuffs, but when your economy is ready, not before, because if you remove it, your economy gets a hit. If they didn't have any positive effect, there would not be any decision. Just rushing to eliminate them.
i +1 agree with this comment and -1 dislike it
@@FeedbackIRL xDDDDD
Isn't negative consumer goods a good thing?
@@curfuffle7420 Yeah, that's the thing. You obtain that buff, but other debuffs. So maybe you want to stay with that spirit until later, when you have a better economy and not rush to delete it.
@@ternemoy3689 Oh, yeah.
as a chilean my self i can say its a good change (at least is a change). Its nice to see some new paths.... and tool tips LOL
Somos el mejor país de Chile!
I'm glad that Chile got the meme paths
I think the point of having counter-balancing traits is they change the country's dynamics as you work on it. It you have a leader focus that gives construction output but a country trait that worsens it, things are normal until you change to fascist, you lose that bonus and are left with the raw penalty. So it gives a reason to keep the default leader and work within the restrictions of democracy. Just an example.
Wonder if there is going to be a long chile achivement.
This focus tree has me excited. My favorite one out of the 3 shown. Chile might end up being one of my top 3 nations to play.
As an American, I've always pronounced it "Chee-lay"
i agree with mobilization(changing the economy laws) just basically solve the problem regarding CIV factory, but that is exactly the problem of the economy law, there are nothing to disincentivize players from taking a certain economy laws, its just better and better option. the only thing stopping you is just the requirement, if its fulfilled you are stupid to not take that economy law, even taking total mobilization is only giving miniscule penalty that can be solve by making "women in the workforce" decision
Unless paradox wants to model in realistic negatives such as famines caused from total war and the lack of farmers/consumer goods workers causing a massive decline in living standards this won’t happen. In the allies the total war policies only had marginal short term effects which ended once the war ended while the soviets suffered heavily in the long term because they never ended the militarization even by 1970 however no game runs that long to where the long term economic paths would be noticed. Unless paradox creates an actual economic system it wouldn’t work other than modeling famines.
If you make it so that you have a few crappy national spirits that you get rid of basically every single nation plays more or less the same. I like the complete chaos and madness personally, makes things different and interesting.
For nations like Chile they really should streamline the focus tree to at least give some of the nations in the game with a straightforward fun focus tree. Like if Brasil and Argentina have big focus trees, Chile should have a more compact streamline experience where you can start getting to war and conquering. Because really how much does Chile mean to WW2?
Love the Native American liberation though that’s very very neat
Chile have a bigger focus tree then Brazil, this gets comical. I can't believe that Chile will have more content than Brazil XD, I hope to see the other develop diaries from Brazil and like them as much as this one from Chile :) ***I WILL CONQUER ALL THE WORLD WITH THE MAPUCHES OOORAH!!!!***
I mean, it's not larger than Brazil?
dave i have a question, also once again thank you for getting me to buy this game because i can actually play it with my dad in his mid 50s, unlike stellaris (the best paradox game). but do you think that every country will get a focus tree before they start working on a hoi5 or is hoi4 the last hoi game and they will work on a cold war expansion or a ww1 version once the ww2 scenario is finished
PS: as a former civ 6 player, you not being able to pronounce mapuche and rapa nui hurts
Your name is afterall "FeedBack"gaming" and feedback includes good and bad things. Im hyped for the south america games
I think they have debuffs and buffs over multiple… traits? (I forgot what their called) so when you get rid of one you still have a debuff and you need to get rid of both to fix it
I've looked all over for possible forums or help with this issue. I can't find anything to answer my question.
I just started playing this game and I've been playing Sinkiang on Single Player. I make good progress and then around the time the war spreads into my region either the Soviet Union or China asks me to either join a faction or Stand with them.
Then as soon as the USSR surrenders my game is over. No way to leave the faction beforehand.
This latest time I didn't join the USSR Faction, but China sent me a message saying they were under attack and would I help them.
It gave me 3 different replies and each one was in the affirmative. I clicked one of the replies and my game immediately ended, to the score/quit screen.
The first time I played I was able to carry on playing with war going on. Now every time I play this ends up happening. It's really annoying after putting in all of the work to build up my country.
Any responses would be appreciated. Thank you.
you cannot leave a faction if you are at war. when the Soviet Union surrenders you do too because you are not a major (a major is a country with about 50 factories) you are kicked to the end screen by the message China sent you is because the option you picked allows them to annex you.
We're double the size of vietnam my dude, we can literally get across all of europe with our length!
i think you should see more in production the minus is in retention, but the buff in cap
0:02 Ive played way too much hoi4 LOL, as soon as i heard that noise my brain was like "oh sh*t my national focus is complete"
I don't think Ideological Drift Defense actually works, or if it does it's very specific what it works on. I was playing Romania, got the national spirit from Italy/Germany to get fascism support but wanted to stay non-aligned so I got the drift defense minister but it didn't impact the daily fascism from those spirits at all.
He’s so wrong about the negative starting spirit things. He’s not taking into account that those, by going down the focus tree, it will turn into a larger net gain.
I get your whole game play over the history thing but when a game is based one ww2 people what to see the history in it me personally I want to see half and half
Same!
Can't wait for something for the Malaysia, Philippines, Siam etc. if it happens
I hope for Q4 2024
I say they work on Asia first but seeing this is kinda cool
👍👍
The DLC looks kinda meh for me before this, now I want to play Chile.
I support this creative decision to embrace 'Alternative History' - just sharing my opinion.
Just did an Argentina playthrough. Tried to avoid siding with the Axis till the last minute. Allies got wind of my shenanigans late game in 43' after I took Brazil and Peru and went for Ecuador, then they smashed me.
Ok, so why is your camera so fuzzy since a couple of weeks it doesnt look very well it always feels like there is some fat finger print on top of the lense.
I love this native (south-)american path So Much! I waited so long for a way to revive the old Inka people and get rid of these self-righteous imperialists in the Americas! :33
this is awesome this is a win !
Oh man I was really hoping for a japan & usa rework with a focus on the PACIFIC war, which is basically non-existent as of now.
It feels like Chile got part of the Perú focus tree and Bolivian focus tree that won't exist but inspired the Chilean oe
The earthquake sounds cool
looking forward to Inca National Bolshevism
The reason for the different pronunciation is Chile and Chili.
UK spell it Chile too
@@FeedbackIRL But how many restaurants in the UK have chili?
Also, the reason why the country of Turkey is now officially spelled Turkiye.
I want to get the natives in revolution.
4:35 because they will not be dealt with at the same time meaning they may not always cancel out; also you are overly negative, specifically your overly focused of meta-gameplay & forget there is a whole storytelling aspect of HoI4
There should be a way to form "New Prussia" as chile since both governments had close ties in 1800s
Paradox should invest their time and effort on updating old focuses instead of making Alt Hist focuses that 1% of players choose
No.
Alt hist >
South América>
Make at the very least a small proper update to old focus trees? X
Make new overpowered trees with alt hist paths almost nobody will play with? Y
Why no? I didn't ask any questions, that's just my opinion@@JuliusNozes Brasileiro burro do caralho
Skill issue
That's just math and statistics@@37thgungrunts
Absolutely this is going too far
This man is saying hoi4 shouldn't be like hoi4 even tho thats why people play it
First
We need Inca, Aztec and Maya-restoration focuses!
The New World will rise again! Bring human sacrifice back in style!
You're actually pronouncing Chile right. CHIlee
I won't buy any dlc for Hoi 4 for such prices
Ok american or european, get real now pls, nobody cares for you
Definitely not buying this waste of money lmao.
This DLC just looks awkward. They need to rehaul some of the major nation focus trees before they start delving into these minor nations. Look at Japan.... its focus tree is a mess
Chile and Brazil have a bigger tree than Germany. Another PDX blunder.
Cause they're more insteresting
50 bucks this dlc was made to appeal for latinx audience, nobody's gonna play south america lol
Paradox knows their market statitics by region, they have a lot of south american players. The last Victoria 3 DLC was also a south american one and sold pretty well. you dont have to buy it if it doesnt appeal to you.
what??? We've been waiting for any southern American focuses. Its more likely to give flavor to a part of the world that's been mostly neglected from the start.
@@Corium1 Who is "we"? Content for most irrelevant continent in a game about ww2...... Delusional геtaгd
I'm not from there and I am excited for a Paraguay focus tree
They've had South America in the road map for years bro. At least that corner of the map won't be incredibly boring anymore lel