In Ear Monitor Rig for Gigging Musicians on a Budget!
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- Are you tired of having to blow out your eardrums and get lost in a cacophony of noise every time you play out? Have you been discouraged from investing in an In Ear Monitoring rig because of how darn expensive a reliable system can be? Well my little hard boiled eggs, this is the video for you!
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Exactly the information I needed. Thanks Jon!
Dude, thank you so much for this video!
Finally a guy that gets it thank you !
Took me 20 tries to get to a video that actually helps. But I could tell in 2 seconds that I finally found it.
Yepp... direct, practical, on the point, no self insert. Perfect!
The audio in this video sounds great!
How very clear and helpful! All other videos have been very confusing.
Do you still use this setup?
KZ AS-10 ..I use them for everything. If you buy a $15 Bluetooth cable and a sturdier replacement cable for them you don't need anything else. I use them for recording, live playing, working out...
Useful information bro
Great video, dude! Thank you! I’m looking at using IEMs with a P2 for strictly BVs in a band gig. What would the configuration be if I were to use a small/sub-mixer like a Yamaha MG06X in place of the micro monitor?
What a good video friend! I have a query: It turns out that I have an acoustic amplifier (Laney A1 +) that I use for my electro-acoustic guitar and apart from the sound emitted by the amplifier itself I would like to have an in-ear return so I can move away from the amplifier a bit, avoid coupling and Excessive volume that added to the other instruments (which also have their own amplifier) is too much noise and the question is: My amplifier has 2 outputs: DI XLR and TRS line output. Can I send a signal from any of them to the Behringer MA400 to the mic or monitor input and get personal feedback? Would it work?
You can actually run the P2 in stereo with a stereo TRS cable. If your mixer has XLR stereo outs, you will just need an Y-XLR to stereo TRS cable and there you go. The only difference to your setup is, that you need to get the monitor signal from your FOH and not directly from your Micro Monitor.
The micro monitor has a stereo option, so FOH could plug into micro mon, and you could plug that into the P2 with a TRS. Stereo would be a nice luxury especially for longer sound checks, but running it mono is perfect for when bands are franticly switching. Plugging straight into a monitor wedge is just so quick and easy, so mono is what I'll probably use in most situations, but nice that stereo is an option.
Which cheap in ears would you recommend for bass players?
I have a pair of those KZ’s and like you said… they are weak in the low end.
I don’t want to wear the big beats style headphones as my ears get hot over time, so looking for something like the KZ’s
Are those CCA headphones any good in the low end ?
what if i am playing in a band, and i want to mix multiple sources of audio in my monitor mixer? like my sax, vocals of the band and the rest. i was thinking about behringer mx400 mini mixer. it has 4 inputs and volume knobs for each channel. ever tried such a setup? i was looking for that but saw your video, very nice info thank you very much
Hey man could you help me with the daisy chaining the wedge part ?(a bit clearly on how to )
I am a new to this and was hoping to use on small gigs.
Thanks for the video
Wouldnt you need some sort of limiter to protect your ears in a setup like this?
Are you aware of any other products from other manufacturers that would be similar to Behringer's micromon and that would also be appropriate for mounting on a pedalboard in the same manner?
Ok so I play bar shows with my band. I've considered getting the Behringer pm1. I was wondering if anyone knows if it will work directly out of the mixer. No sound board or individual sends, just a cable from the mixer on the table into my ears. The mixer has an fx send and a mono headphone out. Will this described setup work?
Hi. sorry for my spelling. I am from Argentina and I do not speak English. I have the possibility to buy the p2 or the ma400. Could you tell me which one I should buy? that is, which one sounds louder? which one has more inputs to connect? which is generally appropriate? I know one is cordless and battery powered. the other is plugged into 220v. I'm a drummer and I have shure headphones of the headband type. From already thank you very much.
Whats the name of the other Behringer thing you have plugged in?
hi question is this stereo? my guitar pedalboard uses stereo setup where my delays pan from left to right? so is this stereo?
Hi! Do you think this type of rig works for a Pm1 as well?
is it possible to connect it direct to a di box out link?
Dual Driver Musician's in Ear Monitor, GranVela iRock A8 Sport Earbuds have a bass driver round 30 bucks tried all you talked about and more these kill
Question: If I want to monitor both my singing and my guitar playing do I need two of these or is there another product I need to look at?
32shumble the micro monitor will only give you control of one or the other. You could buy a small mixer with at least 3 inputs (1 for guitar, 1 for voice, and 1 for monitor input from the main board) to use instead of the micro monitor. It will cost a little more and be a slightly more complicated setup, but that should work for what you’re wanting
I have just bought the MA400. I play Sax and use it for playing over backing tracks. I have my backing tracks on my iPad. I connect my iPad to the line in on the MA400. I connect my headphones to the headphone output on the MA400. I can now hear my backing tracks clearly while playing my Sax. I would just like to ask why you need the P1 or P2 in your system. The MA400 is much cheaper than the P1. I bought mine in the UK for £13.60
The only reason to have the P1 or P2 is to be able to adjust overall volume at your hip rather than have to bend over to the ground constantly to dial in levels. Also, if the signal being sent to the MA400 is too quiet for some reason, you have one more means of increasing the volume. With that said, you can definitely get by fine just using the MA400.
Jon, does the monitor that i am daisy chaining to connect to the monitor input on the MA400 have to be powered? or it could just be a passive stage monitor?
I have used this system with both passive and powered monitors and have had success with both.
Couldnt you have did this setup without including the behringer P2? Awesome vid btw!
yes. I have an older Samson 'more me' powered personal mixer and i run the 1/4 out to an adaptor to a great set of Shure buds. This has been my set up for years. The only benefit to adding the P2 is to have 1 volumer mix on your belt. my rig works great - im a drummer gigging each weekend.
@@richweber5090 I was thinking this too, that the P2 dosen't add so much to this setup. As a Bass player that does backing vocals, I think I'd be happy with MA400, and I think i wuold connect my vocal mic to the "Mic" input and get everything else from the behringer x air xr16 our band has. And i would place the MA400 to my pedalboard ofc.
But this video was very helpful!
can i use that as a talkback mic?
5:39 Actually I was thinking the opposite. Why do I need the P2 at ALL???
Have you tried the speakon to jack? It may fry the MA4000 I don’t if it can handle an speaker signal
andres perez yeah, I’ve tried it a couple times now and no problems so far.
well you can actually do it wirelessly. I tried using a Wireless Guitar transmitter. put the transmitter into the source then put the reciever in the P2. Works fine with me. hahahaha.
I'm not sure if i missed something. What is that White Cable on your MicroMon? Was it from your rig? idk. I'm a bit confused. Thank you.
The white cable was connecting my vocal mic into the MicroMon
Micro monitor brand name?
Hello guys, do you know if this also works without a batteries? Like if there will be headphone amplifier in the rack connected with P2 without a batteries and P2 will serve only as a volume control? I don't want to take care about the batteries...
The PM1 is the passive version which you'd need to drive with an amp
@@martinallen9067 Isn't the micromon a headphone amp on its own? Both the P2 and the Micromon could be driven in stereo given the right monitor input signal.
why do you need a powerplay if you have already the Behringer MA 400???
Allows for more mobility on stage and also allows you to control volume at your hip. Super nice to have, but not necessary
Hey great video. I hope you see this. What should I do if I sing and play guitar? I would like to hear both
In this setup, you would be limited to having to chose to either have control over your voice monitoring or your guitar. You could buy a small 2 channel mixer and plug your vocal mic and guitar mic into it and pan one far right and the other far left. Then you could run to lines from the main outputs of the board to house pa, while using the monitor out to hear yourself and adjust both levels accordingly.
@@jondriver9069 OK awesome thank you. If I wanted to go wireless what's a good one to start with? For a whole band setting
@@moonboy9131 I’ve never bought a wireless set up, so I can’t help with that.
@@jondriver9069 Right on. Thanks I really appreciate it
You don't explain why the powerplay isn't enough for you. Is it because bending down is easier to do while playing than to signal to the soundpeople
So, can I simply connect a P2 to the out of a wedge and control the mix from a mixer? What's the point of the micro monitor?
You could and one of my bandmates does that. But having the micro monitor to turn yourself up is super helpful, and it's cheap enough that I definitely think its worth adding
I'm not sure that connecting a speaker level signal to the unit is safe. It should be a line level signal from the aux send.
Is this information taking into consideration balanced and unbalanced signals?
Using balanced cables would probably be best in an ideal situation. However, I've been using unbalanced instrument cables to daisy chain out of monitor wedges, and so far I have had no issues.
So as a drummer, what exactly do I need??
Jim C a beringer p2 or p1, and a pair of inear headphones.
but is P2 actually works just like a volume knob?
Валентин Олександрович Добровінський yep. And since it clips to your belt, it allows you to walk around freely (or as long as your cable allows). The P2 wouldn’t be necessary if you are stationary while you’re performing (like a drummer for example)
for myself i have built passive volume control
That monitor input is trs or ts?
The MicroMon has a TRS stereo input. However, on gigs I'll always use an TS instrument cable since I'm typically daisy chaining out of a monitor wedge and will therefore have a Mono Signal. It sounds fine, and I haven't had any problems so far
@@jondriver9069 I didn't get you what is Daisy chain? By the way if u connect mono ts input you will hear only on one side of the earphones not stereo?
I want to contact you personally how to ? Need to setup in church so
@@joelstephensequeira8309 By daisy Chain I mean I use an instrument cable to connect into the nearest monitor wedge. You could also connect straight into the monitor out on the sound board. To avoid hearing audio only in one of your ears, all you have to do is set the micro monitor and/or the P2 to mono.
@@jondriver9069 I want to ask I'm Keyboardist I want to split my signal to 2 I have only 1 output from my keys that is stereo output
when i connect my yamaha psr 550 to mic input and start incresing the mic input volume knob noise starts and the signal is very high even at 10 percent volume on ma400 pls help
the cableused to connect the keyboard to ma 400 is xlr male to 1/4 mono jack.
You might need to plug your keyboard into a DI box first then out from there into the ma400 mic input. I would try that if you have a DI box handy
@@jondriver9069 if I connect a bass or electric then it's fine no noise y so
@@jondriver9069 is it something like keyboard should have line level signal
You definitely don’t want to take that speakon out of a speaker and put it through that micro monitor 😂🤦🏻♂️
Worked for me
@@jondriver9069 you’re combining passive speaker level (powered by an amplifier) with line level audio device. While it may be have worked for you, it’s going to blow something up for 9/10 other people or even you if you go to a venue with some decent power amps. It works when it’s active monitors because you take the line level audio output by xlr. But speakon is carry voltages Upto or over 100 volts
@@taylorbrodie3907 only have needed to use the speakon adapter a few times, but worked fine when I needed it. Also I’ve taken the signal straight from many passive monitors and connected it to the micro monitor with a 1/4 cable, and it has worked well most of the time. Nothing has ever blown up. I’m not disagreeing that connecting from an active speaker would be preferable, but in most situations it hasn’t been necessary for me. Not sure why, but all I care is that I can hear.
@@jondriver9069 I said it before and I will say it again. That monitor input is for line level signal (out of a mixer, the thru output on an active speaker) please stop suggesting people send passive signal through this device by linking out of the nearest passive speaker, while it may have worked for you, its bound to blow up someone elses equipment as its not designed to do this. Please all, take the monitor mix from the aux bus at the mixer before it hits the power amp with passive wedges, and go ahead and use the xlr thru out put on active or powered wedges.
Hello, very good information. I have 3 musical groups in Colombia and I work in Decameron hotels. From the outset I gave you a like, because your review was very complete. Before seeing your video, I thought about doing the same thing and looking for someone who had already done it and so your video came out. Since I am the owner of the musical contracts, I have to buy 6 ma400 and 6 p2 from beringher. to solve the problem of their mixtures and potencies to the members. Thank you very much my brother and God bless you!!!