This could demotivate people from spending money because either their rates are above average so they feel like their chance of getting even more above average is so slim that the money isnt worth it or they are below average and they think it isnt worth investing money because they wont get anything anyways.
Think it's good that you used the nat 5s in a way it can help your LD only account. It's already a hard challenge to begin with. It's not worth it for normal accounts, not a chance. But for this specific account I guess it's worth it since the nat 5 were useless on it. Was painful to watch but I'm glad you got new toys to use on the LD account :)
i saved up 100 ld scrolls with my buddy, he had 70. I play since almost from beginning on and dont have a ld5. End of summon session i got halphas and my buddy giana. This video made me relive the terror. Thanks bagel
lol same for me. my friend started playing last month and pulled the dark neostone agent... me in the background who's been playing off and on since 2014 with the pikachu surprise face. lol
If it makes you feel any better, scroll-savers are terrible people and one shouldn't feel even a little bit bad, whether they succeed or fail, since their stupidity stopped them from potentially benefiting from their (potential) success for literally years to come.
@@XPuntar I dont get why people play on alts when not wanting to get stuff on their alts, i create alts to farm ldnat5 and am at least a small little bit happy whenever i get one, even if i mostly never use it but why would you take the boring farming without having great units or was it a challenge acc you wanted to play for one week or so?
I don’t know why he’s so “shocked” about feeding the nat 5’s. They weren’t doing anything in storage either, so still a waste of 30 nat 5’s. At least this way, he’s summoning monsters he’s never had.
16:06 What's with the green stars? Edit: Just looked it up and it's apparently an "imperfect monster" which is used for Japan server's version of the fusion hexagram in case anyone else was confused as well
I’ve played for almost 3 years and had 2 ld Nat 4s total (1 hoh), my dad has played for 2 years and has had 3 ld 4s. My brother played for 2 weeks and pulled Tian Lang (light panda warrior) and 2 LD 4s...
Tfw when my account pulled ragdoll and had lots of other juicy units and super killer runes and I just quit the game lol, glad I stopped playing this game like 2 years ago. Now I just enjoy casually watching a sw vid here n there.
This is literally only worth it on this account. those nat 5's had 0 use and the 2 new nat 4's at least have some use. Outside of the context of this account tho, completely not worth it.
Skill up, evolution materials, and they could have been used for gems/grinds or runes. If he managed to get a Jager/Ragdoll or any of the others from the families he had, he could have easy skill ios and evolution fodder. *Edit* If he got a LD5 outside of doing this from a ToA scroll or pieces or even purchased packs/event scrolls.
YOU ARE THE GOD OF SW CONTENT!!!!!! Myself and my friends have always wanted to do this but we never had the balls. I will like every video you ever post out of pure respect for you having done this.
I mean... with respect to this particular account of his, he's never gonna use those 30 nat5s anyways. But yeah, for most of us, at least we know we ain't getting anything good. science has spoken
I waa going to make a comment close to this - but even if he doesn't end up using them he can still use them as evo fodder. He farms more than enough to the point it doesn't actually matter of he uses them as fodder or not, but they are also potential skill ups for any LD5 he gets - if they are in the same family. Its more than just "Oh, im getting rid of 30 nat5s" its the "I'm getting rid of 30 potential skill ups, evolution fodder, potential runes/grinds". I had the same train of thought up until realized "Wait, those could be used for more than just crystals"
@@nGEnigma evo fodder not the priority for them imo. runes and grinds are probably the most efficient. but honestly. especially when they are never getting used, id use them to summon. i actually did do this with my 4-5 nat 5's on my ld account and it was definately worth it as i got an Icares. and Icares > Useless monsters in storage
@@nGEnigma evo fodder of 5* is waste of resource for LD account too. The amount of Devilmons you get nowadays is a lot and LD accounts barely need the Devilmons. You skill up 3* and 4* units with elemental 3* and 4* from other scrolls and use the Devilmons on 2a units and 4*, this given the rate at you which may get the 4*. If you ever get a LD5 I pretty much think you can get fully skill up on that after at max 2 months unless you manage the resources fine. The LD scrolls are not a completely waste when starting an LD account because it let you fill the LD dex pretty fast in the beginning if you are lucky with nat5 and get core LD monsters for your progression but having the access to lot of leg runes and grinds pretty early due to no usage on elemental nat 5 is pretty great too.
I feel like when Bagel had a plan to get 100 ld scrolls by Christmas 2 months ago, he ended up having to pay a far larger price than he really bargained for, if anything proves that it's not worth it to feed Nat 5s for an LD scroll and this video should be served as a warning
Dark poison master is super underrated imo. He is so good if you just give him lots of def and hp then you cn solo seara x perna defs in gw siege also orion. Can't wait for you to make a video and everyone knows how fun he is
@@nulleins8672 yeah light one is hot garbage I regret fully skill him up when I got him first. I should have kept thpse and max dark one when I got it lol
LD Lightnings: 9:53 10:21 10:49 11:22 15:00 15:08 15:33 In my opinion, the only better way for those nat 5s to be used would be for food for 6*. On this account this is 1000% worth. On any other normal account never do this in your life. I'd say, Bagel, that it was definitely worth it . On this account.
I'm starting to lean this way too, I'm up to 81 lnds right now, and its looking like there would be no chance of anything good anyways so I may as well keep saving.
I saw this video and was like screw it i'll get one LD scroll and expect a nat 3... I'm so glad i didn't heed your advice this once cause the monster i pulled was a DARK FREAKING ART MASTER I WAS SCREAMING. My first LD 5!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
Was fun to watch Bagel. Not many would do this for obvious reasons. Buuut it's a lnd only account after all so I think this was very much a good thing to do!
One has to wonder how any of the other SW content creators will ever top such an incredible journey of a video. I was literally screaming at my phone for the LD lightning gods to bless Bagel.
Totally worth it imo. Those 30nat5 were never going to be used anyway. So not only did you create great content but you managed to get 3 units you’ve never had and can be used to create more content.
30 nat 5's give 9,000 ancient crystals, a legendary all attribute is 225, you can get 20, or a nat 5, since it's 5%, from 4,500 ancient crystals, and it's about a 2/5 or near 1/2 ratio to get a ld, so then spend 9000 and finish both halves, getting maybe a non ld 5 and an ld5
No one, I mean no one can match Bagel's craziness. I mean no one. I've been very inactive on my account, but still can't stop watching how crazy bagel is.
You could actually tell that Bagel was in a state of shock at doing this. Imagine telling Bagel of 7 years ago that he would be just banishing 30 Nat 5s for youtube content :)
im wondering if the legendary scrolls (all attribute ) would have been better? yes less scrolls but higher odds of getting a ld 4/ld 5 which at this point are probably all he's missing on that account? also 5 stars can be fed for another scroll... thoughts?
200 mysticals for 1 nat 5. x30 = 6000 MS. Cheapest pack is 750 crystals for 11 MS. 6000 /11 = 546(rounded) packs * 750 crystals = 409 091 crystals spent to get 30 nat 5s. So it cost him almost 410k crystals for 7 LnD nat 4s, with half being HOH.... MASSIVE RIP
So on a scale of 1-10 i bet the pain from that was around 100 right?!? ;p. but what were the green stars on 2 units at the end of the video? never saw green stars on summons
Interested to see how you build that Magnum, he's got his own niche with the ATB increase and carries a lot of damage with him. Haven't used mine much but thinking maybe he should be re-built similar to wind sniper
I'm hurting 😂😂😂😂but no better place than an LD only acc to do this! you're a hero for doing this. also I wish, I hadn't fed 2 (just two xD) Nat5s, both pernas btw, for an light undine right before i watched this video... 30 nat5s is just coldblooded 😬
I did half of what you did. Didn’t get , Giana tian Lang, Oberon, light surfer, Sylvia or light sav…. But I wasn’t going to devil any of the things I fed so yolo!
I like when bagel said “I work for you guys.” Im touched 🥺
Bagel2024
Yea he's a kind streamer
By Bagel? Been asking him to touch me forever and he always says "I have a girlfriend" and "I'm not into that"
@@cassiusgolgotha2347 sex funny ahahah
@@user-qt9ly8ef8p Yes
I wish there was something in game that can tell us how much times we've summoned each scroll
they would be revealing how shitty their rates are, and probably lying about the chances on top of it.
Theres something like this in achievements
@@schmockinjay yeah, but the scrolls you opend before the day, they did implementing this counter, doesn't count. And it also stops at certain point
i wana see how much mana ive spent on rune upgrades...
This could demotivate people from spending money because either their rates are above average so they feel like their chance of getting even more above average is so slim that the money isnt worth it or they are below average and they think it isnt worth investing money because they wont get anything anyways.
This was the most craziest thing he's done so far.... and i absolutely love it.
I know.. I've re-watched for the 3rd time now, and it's such a shame he didn't get even one nat 5.. oh well ☺️
Think it's good that you used the nat 5s in a way it can help your LD only account. It's already a hard challenge to begin with. It's not worth it for normal accounts, not a chance. But for this specific account I guess it's worth it since the nat 5 were useless on it.
Was painful to watch but I'm glad you got new toys to use on the LD account :)
i saved up 100 ld scrolls with my buddy, he had 70. I play since almost from beginning on and dont have a ld5. End of summon session i got halphas and my buddy giana. This video made me relive the terror. Thanks bagel
lol same for me. my friend started playing last month and pulled the dark neostone agent... me in the background who's been playing off and on since 2014 with the pikachu surprise face. lol
186 LD on my main
11 LD on my alt
10 lighting in main all nat 4
1 lighting on alt .... BUT A NAT5 !!! Gr$#%#"&FG#"$%%$ZT!
@@XPuntar at least u got a nat5 lol which one was it?
If it makes you feel any better, scroll-savers are terrible people and one shouldn't feel even a little bit bad, whether they succeed or fail, since their stupidity stopped them from potentially benefiting from their (potential) success for literally years to come.
@@XPuntar I dont get why people play on alts when not wanting to get stuff on their alts, i create alts to farm ldnat5 and am at least a small little bit happy whenever i get one, even if i mostly never use it but why would you take the boring farming without having great units or was it a challenge acc you wanted to play for one week or so?
I can't believe you didn't wait until the new units came out to do that.
If he reads this his Heart will be heavy that he has overseen that
I mean I thought the same, but it's such a low chance. Any ld five would be content so it is what it is
@@arbitraryanecdotes4521 It could be the new ld 4s too.
@@blackkyurem720 Still a low chance for those but I see your point
That's how he is tho, an inefficient summoner. But I'm glad he did it, if any account did it this was the one to do it
I haven't evened finished the video but I'm just imagining the gems you could have gotten from all those ancient crystals. You're nuts man.
thank you Bagel for doing what we want but fear to do!
Me : I wish I could pull newer meta nat 5s
Bagel: watch me feed top tier 5s for LD 3s and 4s Yolo!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Still crossing my fingers in hope to get Seara and cheongpung arround christmas :'D
Fei itself is like nat5
I actually thought that Bagel would've done it sooner. It's an ld only account so he couldn't use them anyway. One of the most intense summons for me.
I don’t know why he’s so “shocked” about feeding the nat 5’s. They weren’t doing anything in storage either, so still a waste of 30 nat 5’s. At least this way, he’s summoning monsters he’s never had.
Could have got runes and grinds though
I see this and now I feel bad that I just got Zeratu out of 50 ld pieces
I used 1 L&D Scroll from World Boss and got Akroma
And i got Giana out of 50 ld pieces
@@draghul3 and I got Yeonhong from the 1 LD scroll from the collab event with lost Centuria
I got Celia from a wish about a year ago lol
I got Eleanor liu mei Luna and a second fregate with 10 ld
Dude this was so huge. Holy crap, your comittment for the community is insane
16:06 What's with the green stars?
Edit: Just looked it up and it's apparently an "imperfect monster" which is used for Japan server's version of the fusion hexagram in case anyone else was confused as well
Thank you for this. I remember when they came out and how they’re server exclusive but I couldn’t remember what the purpose was
@@stevencoates5285 its due to japan laws on gambling games
I’ve played for almost 3 years and had 2 ld Nat 4s total (1 hoh), my dad has played for 2 years and has had 3 ld 4s.
My brother played for 2 weeks and pulled Tian Lang (light panda warrior) and 2 LD 4s...
Ok so gambling runs in the blood
@@noxsuspe6922 🤣🤣
Fucking relax who cares it’s fun sometimes and none of your business
@@robertlaub1823 Bruh it was a joke
Have given up trying for nat LD 5s after all these years of playing I still don't have a single LD5
Same, you're not alone
and you go to chat and some people have like 4 ld5 on display in their profile, and they havent even played that long.....
Tfw when my account pulled ragdoll and had lots of other juicy units and super killer runes and I just quit the game lol, glad I stopped playing this game like 2 years ago. Now I just enjoy casually watching a sw vid here n there.
Same, I've been playing since 2017 and still no LD5, I even saved up 100 LD scrolls before
I pulled 3 in my first month
Thank you bagel, your video got recommended to me in the exact time I was wanting to feed every dupe into for the lds.
Your sacrifice was not in vain
This is literally only worth it on this account. those nat 5's had 0 use and the 2 new nat 4's at least have some use. Outside of the context of this account tho, completely not worth it.
Skill up, evolution materials, and they could have been used for gems/grinds or runes.
If he managed to get a Jager/Ragdoll or any of the others from the families he had, he could have easy skill ios and evolution fodder.
*Edit* If he got a LD5 outside of doing this from a ToA scroll or pieces or even purchased packs/event scrolls.
-all nat5s together:
what is my purpose?
-Jewbagle:
cautionary tale
YOU ARE THE GOD OF SW CONTENT!!!!!! Myself and my friends have always wanted to do this but we never had the balls. I will like every video you ever post out of pure respect for you having done this.
I mean... with respect to this particular account of his, he's never gonna use those 30 nat5s anyways. But yeah, for most of us, at least we know we ain't getting anything good. science has spoken
I waa going to make a comment close to this - but even if he doesn't end up using them he can still use them as evo fodder.
He farms more than enough to the point it doesn't actually matter of he uses them as fodder or not, but they are also potential skill ups for any LD5 he gets - if they are in the same family.
Its more than just "Oh, im getting rid of 30 nat5s" its the "I'm getting rid of 30 potential skill ups, evolution fodder, potential runes/grinds".
I had the same train of thought up until realized "Wait, those could be used for more than just crystals"
@@nGEnigma evo fodder not the priority for them imo. runes and grinds are probably the most efficient. but honestly. especially when they are never getting used, id use them to summon. i actually did do this with my 4-5 nat 5's on my ld account and it was definately worth it as i got an Icares. and Icares > Useless monsters in storage
@@nGEnigma evo fodder of 5* is waste of resource for LD account too. The amount of Devilmons you get nowadays is a lot and LD accounts barely need the Devilmons. You skill up 3* and 4* units with elemental 3* and 4* from other scrolls and use the Devilmons on 2a units and 4*, this given the rate at you which may get the 4*. If you ever get a LD5 I pretty much think you can get fully skill up on that after at max 2 months unless you manage the resources fine. The LD scrolls are not a completely waste when starting an LD account because it let you fill the LD dex pretty fast in the beginning if you are lucky with nat5 and get core LD monsters for your progression but having the access to lot of leg runes and grinds pretty early due to no usage on elemental nat 5 is pretty great too.
This is the only video that i actually was praying for a nat5 everytime he got lightning.
I feel like when Bagel had a plan to get 100 ld scrolls by Christmas 2 months ago, he ended up having to pay a far larger price than he really bargained for, if anything proves that it's not worth it to feed Nat 5s for an LD scroll and this video should be served as a warning
Dark poison master is super underrated imo. He is so good if you just give him lots of def and hp then you cn solo seara x perna defs in gw siege also orion. Can't wait for you to make a video and everyone knows how fun he is
good thing i pulled light dhalsim :')
@@nulleins8672 yeah light one is hot garbage I regret fully skill him up when I got him first. I should have kept thpse and max dark one when I got it lol
LD Lightnings:
9:53
10:21
10:49
11:22
15:00
15:08
15:33
In my opinion, the only better way for those nat 5s to be used would be for food for 6*. On this account this is 1000% worth. On any other normal account never do this in your life. I'd say, Bagel, that it was definitely worth it . On this account.
Or buy runes and grinds
I'll rather take runes over food for 6*, Even more if those are cheaper (180>>120)
Can’t wait for him to summon more nat5s and build up to another hundred scroll summon session. :)
Thanks bagel, I've decided to save 300 LD's instead of 100 now. Was almost done but man those rates were garbage
Tge real lesson to be learned here
Lol same
gl
I'm starting to lean this way too, I'm up to 81 lnds right now, and its looking like there would be no chance of anything good anyways so I may as well keep saving.
I saw this video and was like screw it i'll get one LD scroll and expect a nat 3... I'm so glad i didn't heed your advice this once cause the monster i pulled was a DARK FREAKING ART MASTER I WAS SCREAMING. My first LD 5!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
The day i decide to quit the game i prob do this
That inspired me to feed my nat 5s too bagel thanks for the idea.... Asima here I come baby!!!
Worth every tear from you bagel
This is like UA-cam itself, you do stupid things just for the pleasure of getting more content
It was like watching a beautiful train wreck. I couldn't take my eyes off the screen, hoping Bagel gets that Giana + Ragdoll combo.
Tt bb
You're a hero for doing this. This will help me save my gambling addict guild mates!
It’s okay! They were just taking up storage anyway.
those reg nat 5s were just collecting dust anyway, so for this account it makes sense
All those runes, grinds You can get with that
Was fun to watch Bagel. Not many would do this for obvious reasons. Buuut it's a lnd only account after all so I think this was very much a good thing to do!
no one else on this planet would do what you just did. You're practically a hero
was clearly worth it. 30 monsters you wouldnt use for several that you will use
This video hurt my soul :))). Still surprising after all these years, Bagel. Good/bad job!
One has to wonder how any of the other SW content creators will ever top such an incredible journey of a video. I was literally screaming at my phone for the LD lightning gods to bless Bagel.
The music had me on edge thinking maybe you was about to get a nat5. The monsters you was jiggling tho 😂😂😂 groovin to the beat.
Totally worth it imo. Those 30nat5 were never going to be used anyway. So not only did you create great content but you managed to get 3 units you’ve never had and can be used to create more content.
Hey thats me at 0:29 :D glad he actually decided to do this. (the feeding of fire M.Bison hurt me tho lmao)
I don't even play SW anymore, but I can say u've made some of the most amazing things I've ever seen.
As always Bagel delivering with the crazy videos.
Ouwch this video hurts a lot.. You do a very dangerous work, thanks a lot for your passion
It's SERIOUSLY not even a 1/101 chance to summon a L/D Nat 5. They NEED to correct that, that is mind boggling. Seriously unreasonable.
That Sekhmet be dodging seppuku like a god
Daaaammmmmmmmm Bagel.!! I appreciate the effort to bring us crazy content.!! Ty and im sorry you had to sacrifice so many nat 5s
30 nat 5's give 9,000 ancient crystals, a legendary all attribute is 225, you can get 20, or a nat 5, since it's 5%, from 4,500 ancient crystals, and it's about a 2/5 or near 1/2 ratio to get a ld, so then spend 9000 and finish both halves, getting maybe a non ld 5 and an ld5
Yayyy!! New content!! Totally worth it for content!!
You can see the sheer emotional (and maybe even physical?) pain in each monster sacrificed.
Man great video! was on the edge of the seat! sucks no nat5, but hey, few usable 4s? Gotta take it...
Ill trade all my Nat 5 now thanks Bagel hahaha
Praying for you
No one, I mean no one can match Bagel's craziness. I mean no one. I've been very inactive on my account, but still can't stop watching how crazy bagel is.
Yo Bagel, good shit! For love of the game! You a legend on this one 💯💯
This was sooo painful to watch!!! looking foward to watch a video about Cayde! I have 02 of them and I use them almost every siege!
YAAASSS! I love the ignore defense. Them shields be hard to get through.
i dont know, i just feel happy watch this guy.
Okay funnily enough, after watching this video I got a Jamire so thank you for putting him out.
Worth the content creation. I'm excited to see Magnum and Kfg
You could actually tell that Bagel was in a state of shock at doing this. Imagine telling Bagel of 7 years ago that he would be just banishing 30 Nat 5s for youtube content :)
Bagel you madlad, I loved every single second of this.
I know how much you hated doing this, but I thank you that you just created this video! You’re amaking !
Yo bagel been watching you since NY… you gotta start doing the omgfoods again bro
Bless you, you poor soul. Hope you're recovering well
What is up with the green 4* units at 16:06 ? Have not seen that before O.ó
bagel in previous video : Save your scrolls guys , new monster incoming
Also Bagel : summon 101 LD in this video
You are an absolute mad man. For science.
im wondering if the legendary scrolls (all attribute ) would have been better? yes less scrolls but higher odds of getting a ld 4/ld 5 which at this point are probably all he's missing on that account? also 5 stars can be fed for another scroll... thoughts?
The commitment is real, awesome video!!
Officially the hardest vid I've ever watched on YT ....... Good job Bagel
worth is in content not in acct
O snap this is huge xd best wishes on your ld summon
Watchiong Bagel feed a bunch of nat 5 for ld summoning session feels like me being a cocaine addict looking for my next line to snort
Did anyone already calculated the price per LD?
Assuming you buy a ton crystals
Then premium packs
Then feed nat 5s for LDs
200 mysticals for 1 nat 5. x30 = 6000 MS. Cheapest pack is 750 crystals for 11 MS. 6000 /11 = 546(rounded) packs * 750 crystals = 409 091 crystals spent to get 30 nat 5s.
So it cost him almost 410k crystals for 7 LnD nat 4s, with half being HOH.... MASSIVE RIP
Whales be like: hmm, nothing special
So on a scale of 1-10 i bet the pain from that was around 100 right?!? ;p. but what were the green stars on 2 units at the end of the video? never saw green stars on summons
You can use the ancient coins to get nat 5 like Elsharion and then feed them for more LDs
You cant feed an ifrits
Had this same thought, I dont anymore.
Good luck with ur new mons.
Interested to see how you build that Magnum, he's got his own niche with the ATB increase and carries a lot of damage with him. Haven't used mine much but thinking maybe he should be re-built similar to wind sniper
I'm hurting 😂😂😂😂but no better place than an LD only acc to do this! you're a hero for doing this. also I wish, I hadn't fed 2 (just two xD) Nat5s, both pernas btw, for an light undine right before i watched this video... 30 nat5s is just coldblooded 😬
“I just wanna remind you this is your idea, not mine” ::concerned look::
Bagel, does this count towards your previous video on saving 100 ld scrolls??
the day you made this video and fed a chow someone on my friends list got a chow
This video makes my day. I opend 77LD scrolls and got 3 lightnings with only Woonhak, Betta and Phenaka
Was this your first premier like this? I don't feel like I've ever noticed them before.
I wish you good luck JB
I noticed that some of your monsters had green stars when you were doing twitching before the last 30 sums. what's up with that?
Very hopeful for a light sniper video, it is so satisfying to delete a Lushen in a cleave comp.
I enjoyed watching you feed them to be honest. I thought it to be a great idea (FOR THIS ACCOUNT)
This should be a trailer for summoners war in the app store. Really just show literal years of effort turn into a couple niche units.
That was worth it bagel , you just pooped 3 new videos out of thin air
Hey bagel, very cool! , but why you didn’t waited to summon after the new monsters?!?
My brain hurt not even 2 mins in when I saw all the units your goin got feed that I don’t have. It hurts to watch!
this feel more pain than MJ forgot about spiderman
Love your content always, goofy as it may be!
13:49 Wait, how did you get green star unit ?
For whomever it may concern he fed 30 nat 5s for a 30% chance at getting a ld5
I cannot believe you did this...
Congrats on the new units... but I cannot believe you did this...
I did half of what you did. Didn’t get , Giana tian Lang, Oberon, light surfer, Sylvia or light sav…. But I wasn’t going to devil any of the things I fed so yolo!