2001 EZGO TXT, Gas - Crank, No Start, Adjust Valves, Bad Piston Rings
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To the viewers,, you check compression with the throttle wide open,,,with the carb butterfly closed you will get a low compression reading,,,you may have to hold the throttle open manually and the choke open
Your videos have got me out of a couple messes. Thanks for that. Our course has about 25 of these old TXTs we keep for busy weekends, tournaments. Just wanted to mention on the coil comment, I’ve used a brand called Redhawk for coils (Part # 5141) and ignitors (Part # 5140) and both have worked flawlessly. Made in Taiwan.
I'm a Red Hawk dealer. I've had mixed results with those units. Nothing beats OEM. They are all made in China.
Hey Kev - glad to see another video! I rebuilt my entire 2007 EZGO TXT with the help of your videos over the past month. It's running like a brand new cart now. Just wanted to say thanks for the education!
I'm glad my videos are helping you with your golf cart!! I hope to have more videos out soon!
Thanks for these videos! I’ve been working on a 1999 EZGO TxT and your videos have helped me out a lot!
Great coil option rather than cheap aftermarket is the gm 3.8 v6 coil. It almost fits perfect in oem location.
As long as it fires both plugs at the same time and wont harm the CDI, then I suppose it would be ok.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts I'm not familiar with a golf cart ignition system, but isn't it the same as a 4 stroke engine? Why would it fire both plugs at the same time? Inquiring minds want to know.
Wow nice! Thanks Kevin.
Hi Kevin. Your videos have been a huge resource for me when working on my 2003 EZGO TXT gas golf cart. Thank you for putting together quality videos that are extremely clear and educational. When I bought my cart a few months ago it ran well but it has always had trouble starting. I have to choke it every time to get it started. With the help of your videos I have completed a valve adjustment, carb removal and cleaning, oil change, changed spark plugs, added a missing fuel filter, drained fuel tank and lines, new gas, and new battery (the battery in it was the wrong size). After all that I am still having to choke it everytime to start even when the engine is warm.
I completed the carb clean and valve adjustment today and after that it ran about the same but started backfiring when I let off the gas and come to a stop. After some investigation I noticed that the throttle linkage at the carb seems to be sticking open. Do you have any videos that might address a sticking throttle issue? It seems like the spring at the carb isn’t pulling the linkage back up all the way when I let off the pedal.
Also, do you have any ideas for the choke to start issue?
Thanks again for the quality videos!
There are 2 cables on gas carts that control the engine. The first cable comes from the accelerator pedal and goes to the governor on the rear transaxle. This is the accelerator cable. The second cable runs from the governor on the rear transaxle to the carburetor. This one is called the governor cable. Its common on those for the cables to start rusting internally and bind. If the throttle plate on the carb moves freely, then you would have to make sure the cables move freely. If either one or both are not smooth at all, they need to both be replaced. Many times its the governor cable that goes bad because of how its routed. The throttle return spring on the carb is not strong enough alone to move this cable. When the governor cable binds, it causes the throttle to stick open and closed. This will cause multiple starting and backfiring issues.
Thanks! I have a new governor cable on the way.
Very informative. Luv all the explanation of what you did.
Excellent video. These are the junkiest engines ever.
Hey Kevin! Finding your videos was a real nice surprise, just a real nice surprise lol. I have a 1996 EZGO TXT GAS and a 2003 TXT GAS, bought both recently. I am servicing both now for the first time thanks to your videos and have watched all your TXT videos. I have heard you say use spark plugs NGK BPR6ES, 4ES, 5ES OR 2ES in one of your videos and I caught a comment from you about correcting a spark plug statement and cant find that comment in your videos again. I also heard you say using the right plugs is important in these engines without computers. So I just put in NGK BPR6ES but after reading the service manual I just found online which says NGK BPR4ES I am wondering if I should get those out of there and use NGK BPR4ES OR BPR2ES? I do understand that the gap and heat rating are the only difference but don't know how that affects performance? Is a 6 heat rating too far from 4 or 2? Thanks for all the videos man, keep them going!
Very informative videos. I want to replace the plug wires on a 2001 ezgo txt and would like to know if the end that goes into the coil should have a short strand of plug wire sticking out of the new wire or should it cut flush?
Cut it flush. The wire threads into the coil studs.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Thanks.
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what should the compression be ?
160
Does the timing belts break on these units. I have one like this that has Zero compression. It was running fine and then just quit. Has Great fire to the plugs, getting gas but will not fire off. I even used starting fluid, but it would not fire our spit.
They can, but its rare. Open the oil cap while cranking the engine. Look inside to see if the cam shaft is rotating. If it is, get a compression tester and see if you have compression. You need a minimum of 120PSI to get it to run. Also, make sure the battery is connected correctly. The braided bare cable goes to negative and the black goes to positive.
If you will look close at the rocker arms on the intake valves spring retainer are up against the bottom of the rocker we’re the valve pulling throw do a valve job on it cheap
Not really. I can fit my pinky finger between the rocker and spring retainer on these engines. I know it looks like its very close, but there is a lot of room in these heads.
Kevin thanks for your videos they are very helpful. I am a Handyman in Southern Arizona and I yse my golf cart for work. It's a 92 ezgo marathon 4 stroke 295cc robin engine and I came out one morning a month ago and it wouldn't start. Crank no start. I put the parts cannon on it because I have been so busy with work and taking care of my dad. So far I've replaced the fuel pump, key switch accelerator micro switch, coil with plug wires in one unit, I cleaned and reinstall the ground wire contacts. I haven't tried testing spark or compression yet. I spent 85 dollars on the coil in hopes that it was better than the Chinese one . Hellllpp!! I am going to broke. Do you sell any parts of the motor on this cart
Intake valves are shot. They are in the seats instead of on the seat.
Kevin good to see another video. I sold my crazy txt, it was a 97 and compression was at 100psi and couldn't get higher with adjustment. Buyer understood he was heading for a rebuild. I bought a 2019 club car and going to build it, has crazy power! I'm reading horror stories about the koler FI engine, you seeing issues with these yet?
I'm glad you made the jump to Club Car. The newer ones ride so nice. I have one customer with a Onward that has the Toilet engine. I have not had a chance to work on it since he brings it to his Club Car dealer. The communities that I serve still have a high ratio of older carts still and I have very few carts come in that are fuel injected. Most of them that I see are for winter storage and not repairs or maintenance.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts I love CC. My second cart is a 99cc that sold to a buddy, he twisted my arm to have it. I also picked up a 2006 cc electric to play with, needs a full restore. Lol im building a jeep TXT right now, just sent body out for paint. These carts keeping me way to busy!
Have you tried a motorcycle shop for the coil?
What are the threads on the spark plugs so I get the right compression test connector?
Hey i got a 95 ezgo. Its hard to get started even after i ckeaned carb. Then it start stalling when driving it. Then it will pick up. I put new wires. Plugs and cleaned a washed carb out. New battery what am i missing to get this running better i have not did compression test or tried to ajust valves i just dont know it motor to to worn out
Hey Kevin, love all the videos. I just purchased a 91 EzGo marathon and can not get it going. The guy I purchased it from said everything was good except some wiring issues. But boy did I get taken. When I brought it home it has 30 psi compression. I did a top end rebuild and now have 120 psi, put a new carb in, new fuel filters, new spark plug, and new fuel. Still can only get it to crank but not fire, it doesn’t even seem to want to fire. Any ideas or suggestions what it could be. I watched your solonoid video of a marathon and was thinking that but I have spark also.
There are quite a few things you are going to have to troubleshoot. The first thing is to make sure your timing is correct. If you had done a top end rebuild, its easy to get timing wrong if you've never done it before. If that checks out and you have spark, then you need to make sure the fuel pump is pumping fuel. If that's good, change the spark plugs. I've seen it, though its very rare, spark plugs won't spark under compression. Make sure the battery is connected in the correct polarity. If its connected backwards, you will have spark but it won't start. Its possible the new carb has a blockage. Sometimes the float valve gets stuck from being tossed around in shipping. I've see this happen a few times. Take it apart and clean it and see if this helps. You can try squirting some carb cleaner into the carb while cranking it to see if it kicks over a little. Don't use ether/starting fluid. That stuff can kill any engine.
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Ok thanks a lot. I will try all of this.
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Hey, so I tried the majority of what you told me yesterday, fuel pump is pumping, everything is working, except I was looking online for a manual for a 90 2 stroke marathon and I couldnt find one. My question is for a 1990 EZ GO marathon golf cart is it a positive ground or a negative ground system and how do you time a two stroke single cylinder engine?
Ahh ok, you didn't mention it was a 2-stroke. You're first comment mentions a 91. They made them with a 4-stroke in that year. On 2 stroke engines, check which way the piston is installed as it matters which way the ports on the piston are facing. They need to face the intake. Make sure the reeds are closing properly and have no debris in them. The 2-stroke engines are known for blowing the fan side crankshaft oil seal. This will prevent the engine from running. I've used gasket maker on the outside of the seal after installing them to help keep them in. As far as I'm aware, they are all negative ground.
Good vid man. Just got a 1997 EzGo 295. Compression is 160 158. Slowly checking everything out to be sure of it's reliability. Anything crucial I should check on a used cart other than the engine? Thanks. Oh just had a thought. Has anyone ever milled the head to get a higher compression ? Like 180 psi. I think that would be around 9:1
As long as it doesn't smoke while its running, it should be good. The ignition parts are the weak links on these engines. The aftermarket stuff sucks and they don't make them OEM anymore.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Hello again. I have come across a confouding problem with the 97 Robin295. Trying to fix it I have installed new plugs, fuel filter, carb, fuel pump and set the valve clearance with no luck. Now that you know that, here is what it's doing.Putting around the rv park for around 10 to15 minutes the cart abruptly stops (stalls).
At first I let it sit for 5 min and it would go again. Then I discoverd that when it stopped if I pumped the heck out of the gas peddle it would go almost imediatly ok. After that every 2 min it would do the same. What the heck?
Any ideas???? 😕
@@Kevinsgolfcarts No ideas on the abrupt stalls?
@@Silver_Surfer_1 Sounds like you may have an ignition issue or loosing compression. Pumping the gas pedal doesn't do anything other than open and close the carb butterfly valve. You need to do more diagnostics to narrow it down. When it shuts down, check to see if you lost spark or if its very weak. It should be a bright white spark at the electrode. If that checks out, check compression on each cylinder. Its possible that the engine is wore out internally and causing compression issues. If you lost spark, then the ignition coil and/or CDI and/or pickup coil are failing when they get hot. Outside of that, I can't really offer any suggestions without actually having the cart here and hearing it.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts I believe it needs a gas pedal micro switch. Can it be bypassed to check? I've searched on youtube for 1997 gas and all I get is electric cart vidios ☹. Where is it. under the gas pedal, or somewhere else?
Please help. Thanks!
Hi Kevin, I hope you can help me, I have a 1998 Ezgo Txt gas golf buggy now my problem is that it turns over but no spark. I have replaced all the ignition system with new , ie Starter/generator, carb, solenoid, voltage regulator x2, Cdi unitx2 ,ign coil, spark plugs etc….Valves have been adjusted and has great compression….When I took off the old Cdi unit a wire broke of it , got to say it was running at this point. I replaced it now it turns over but no spark, thinking it was a faulty unit a bought another one to no avail. Same no spark, any suggestions would be great, hope to hear from you thanks in advance..Des
Hey Kevin. I just purchased a 2004 EZ GO gas cart with a Robin motor. My first question is did these come with an air filter box or can? Second question is after we did compression test and made adjustments to .006, we did get better compression but only 90 psi on both cylinders, both spark plugs are firing but the engine only busts off and runs when we have the short spark plug wire off the plug and the long spark plug wire on the plug. It doesn’t run great but it will still somewhat run. What do I need to check?
I believe 04 has a can style air filter. I can't remember what year this changed. They changed over to the MCI engine at the same time, which has the exhaust manifold cast into the head. The older engine has a cast iron bolt-on exhaust manifold. These engines are different and ignition parts are not interchangable.
Adjust the valves to .004 as .006 was an old adjustment we used to use at the golf course I worked at. It was the only way we would get worn out carts to run. .004 is what ezgo calls for in their shop manual. Adjust the valves on a COLD engine.
If you lack spark on both plugs, then the coil may have failed. Both plugs will fire at the same time and should have the same amount of spark. Swap the plugs in the cylinder to see if the issue moves. Change both plugs as its possible you have a bad spark plug.
You should see a minimum of 120psi of compression for the engine to run well. 150psi is the minimum that ezgo says it needs, but 120psi will work. 90psi is too low. After readjusting the valves, if you still don't see an improvement in compression, squirt a very small amount of oil into the cylinder and retest compression. If it improves, then the rings and cylinders are wore. The engine will need to be rebuilt. If it doesn't improve, then you may have a damaged or stuck valve.
Thank you so much for this reply. I’m thinking it needs to be rebuilt. What kills me though is it will run somewhat on cylinder 2 plugged in and cylinder 1 not plugged in. If I was going to do just the top end rebuild, pistons and rings, will I have to take the motor out to do this operation? Also, what became of this golf cart in the video? Is it still parked at your shop? LOL
@@jason51482 I would just pull the engine out. Save yourself the headache of trying to leave it in. There are only 4 bolts that hold it to the frame. You will have to basically disassemble the entire engine to replace pistons and rings. I stopped doing engines in house and send them off to an engine rebuilder that only works on these engines. It costs about the same to have them machine and rebuild it versus ordering all the parts and doing it myself. The added benefit is they can find other issues that may go unseen. Before going through all that, I would make sure that everything else I mentioned points to a rebuild. If its electrical, a rebuild would be a costly mis-step.
After the wet test did not improve the compression that indicates the need for a valve job. Yes or no?
Yes and no. It could be worn piston rings, scored cylinder walls, bad valve seats, etc. It is time for a rebuild if you see no change.
when are you adjusting the valves? When the valve you are working on is closed? any clarification would be great. thanks
When adjusting the valves, start with a COLD engine and make sure the cam lobe is facing DOWN, 90 degrees from the rocker. This allows the valve to completely close.
My 94 ez go engine shuts off when hot the engine is wore out. Im getting a Ebay refurb. And im gonna get a Amazon coil.
I JUST NOTICED THAT IT'S MISSING A ROCKER ARM SPACER. WORKING ON ONE LIKE THAT NOW AND THE MANUAL ONLY SHOWS 2 BUT MY ENGINE ACTUALLY HAS 3
There are only 2 spacers, one between each rocker. The middle is supposed to have a spring, no spacer.
I just purchased a 2005 gas ezgo. It is extremely clean. My mechanic said they were the unicorn of motors. Is this tru? He said they are better than the new kawasaki's .
If you are referring to the twin cylinder Robin engine, then yes. They are a nearly bullet-proof engine. They are strong, smooth and fast to rev. They are easy to maintain, service and repair. Their downfall is getting an OEM ignition coil. I wish this wasn't the case since this engine has been around since very early 90s carts. This engine would be the only reason to get an EZGO.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Thanks for your reply. Whats wrong with aftermarket ignition coils?
I've not had much luck with them. They are weaker than the OEM, don't last as long and can produce other issues in the ignition system. Unfortunately, it is the only option available for this engine.
Hey Kevin, great videos! I have a 2000 EZGO TXT. When I turn on my cart, the starting motor constantly runs. Isn't it supposed only run when I hit the gas peddle? If not, what do I need to do to fix that? Thanks for any tips on this issue.
You'll have to go through and find where the key switch wiring is run to. It sounds like someone bypassed the pedal switch because it failed. The start circuit is very simple on these. It goes from the battery, to the key switch, pedal switch, soilenoid.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Right on! Thanks for the tip. I'll take a look and see if that's what they did. Sounds like you're spot on.
Hey Kevin, Why do you have to replace the coil if it is working correctly and providing good spark? I agree, the aftermarket ones are trash.
It doesn't have to be replaced at this time but, there will come a time when it needs to be replaced. Its a lot of money to throw at this engine when OEM ignition parts are not fully available. This is something that I explain to my customers so they can use the information to make an educated decision. This customer was planning to buy a newer cart at some point anyway so they would rather invest in a new cart.
Now we know when your engine is done for VG
Hey Kevin, I have a 2001 EZ Go txt and have compression at 95psi in each cylinder after valve adjustment. Is it time for an engine rebuild? If so do you know how much that usually costs?
Your compression is on the very low side and it sounds like you could have some carbon build up on the valve seats or wore out piston rings. If you are going to rebuild it, you might as well go with a professional who does nothing but golf cart engine rebuilding. Typically these can cost $700-$1500 depending on the engine and damage.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Hey Kevin my original problem was that the cart was having intermittent starting. I checked for spark with inline spark tester. I would only get one initial spark then nothing. i then tested the voltage leading to the coil and it was not getting 12 volts. I think the highest I saw was 2 volts. I then tested voltage off the igniter and that was 12 volts so think the problem is the wiring from ignitor to coil and pulsar. Do you know if I can buy a replacement wiring harness from the igniter to the coil and pulsar that has the connectors?
Hey there , I have a 2004 295cc Robbins engine Ez Go . Bought it used running so so , I put new NGK plugs, new carb , and new 100% gas . It was low on oil so I changed that and filter to the full mark , around 11/2 quart. I did notice some oil in the pcv hose all the way to the carburetor upon replacing it . Ok got it running and in a min or so it started smoking and backfiring some. Well I checked the compression, on one cylinder it was 140 and the other 170 ! I have run it for about 30 min. Off and on but it wants to backfire sometimes. One of the plugs was a little oiled. I'm thinking rings or valve guides? Also the fuel pump vacuum bubbles some oil up the hose toward the pump from the engine...any thoughts ...thanks , John
The PCV hose will have some oil in it over time. The vapors will collect and form a film inside the hose and airbox. It sounds like you have bad valve guide seals and wearing oil rings on the piston. You may have to pull the plugs and get a camera down in the cylinder to see the condition of the bore. Backfiring can be due to over-revving, incorrect adjustments on the accelerator and governor cables and linkages, aftermarket ignition components or valve lash out of adjustment. The vacuum line for the fuel pump will get oil in it and will bubble if you disconnect it from the pump and run the engine.
Hello Kevin. I have a question about my 1997 EXGO TXT. When I push the gas all the way down, I get crank no start. Now if I just push the pedal down enough to get the starter turning, wait til it picks up revs, then hit the gas, it seems to work. Though sometimes its very sluggish starting out rollling down the road and then the engine cranks up and it takes off fast. I will double check my valve clearance. I have changed the air filter, fuel filter, checked the plugs and gapped them, and added some sea foam to the gas tank with fresh non oxy fuel. Still not wanting to just take off. Any suggestions? I haven't seen a video with this exact issue. Thank you.
Start with a compression test. It should be 120psi or higher. If its low, check valve lash. I'd also pull the carb and clean it. If you can, use ethanol-free gasoline. Seafoam is a waste of money.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts yup, been putting nothing but non oxy since I bought it last September. I will pull and clean carb and check the valve clearance.
Hey Kevin
I have a Yamaha g14 (1995) which I have restorated. I have replaced a broken balancer shaft. But when I drive it, the cart just smokes alot, backfires, and the smoke is kind of blue and I have noticed that the oil level has gone down a little bit. So is it possible that my cart is burning some oil? How do I fix it, if it is so? Compression seemes good.
I don't do engine rebuilds anymore as they are too time consuming. If its constantly smoking, I'm leaning on bad rings. If it only smokes when starting and it clears up, then bad valve guide seals. I would of replaced piston, rings and connecting rod while I was in there, as long as the cylinder isn't scarred.
What do you think about the rebuilt 295 cc engines sold on Ebay
I can't say. I don't buy much stuff on ebay. Most of my experience on ebay is "you get what you pay for".
Do you ever get any 352 cc Subaru engines that need rebuilding?
I haven't had any in my shop that have that engine.
What's normal compression for this?
140-160 is ideal.
Is there any chance that the timing belt jumped on it?
Unlikely in this case. I've been working on this cart for several years and its slowly been getting tired. The governor is cranked way up and the customers' kid beat the hell out of it.
Your other videos you did .006 ?
The EZGO manual calls for .004" valve lash. When I worked at a golf course, we had old EZGOs that would only run when the valves were adjusted to .006". It became habit to adjust them to that gap. I've corrected this in multiple videos.
Squirrel. ....lmao
I've got three of those motors in my shop now. Same issue with those coils .
I wish there was a quality replacement. Its super annoying!
@@Kevinsgolfcarts was looking last night and found Red Hawk has a similar looking one and it was $142 , I'm going to get a few and cross my fingers. Lol
Hey quick question for my EZGO GURU
I've got 2 Txt's , one has a flat air filter and the other has a cylinder filter. Both serial plates are missing. Do you have a Ballpark on the years ?
I'm a Red Hawk and Nivel Parts dealer. They are the same part number as Nivel, which are... meh.
Where are you located at
Pennsylvania. I don't have a public storefront.
Why couldn't you just replace the top end?
You could but this customer opted to replace the cart.
Kev!! Great vid as always... I'd be interested in buying the cart if you end up selling shoot me a PM
Thank you for your interest. If and when that time comes, it will be listed on my website.
Kevin I live tight he where ez go carts r My service tech who comes in service ouleased buggies told me to go to buggiworld for those coils
I'm not finding anything related to your comment. Could you specify what company you are referring to?
Kevin's Golf Carts he may have meant m.buggiesunlimited.com/
They get their coils from the same vendor I do.