The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) | Movie Reaction | Part 2
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- The Mrs. watches Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) for the First Time. Here's Part 2 of her Reaction! We are watching the Extended Edition!
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Post Fellowship stories
-Aragorn: Ruled for 120 years after as king.
-Arwen: Passed away one year after he passed away.
-Sam: Some already commented but yes, he became mayor of the shire, had 13 kids, and gifted his eldest daughter the book that Bilbo and Frodo wrote. Fun fact, the girl that played his daughter in the movie was Sean Astin's real daughter.
-Merry & Pippin both got married. Pippin did indeed get married to the hobbit that was going for Rosie's bouquet. Both had at least one son. Pippin's son ended up marrying one of Sam's daughters. Both traveled to Rohan and Gondor when Merry was 102 and Pippin was 94. Both of them retired and passed away in Gondor. When Aragorn passed away, they were both entombed beside him.
-Eomer returned to Rohan as king. He restored the oath of Eorl which is a sacred oath that creates an everlasting bond between Rohan and Gondor. He met a princess in Gondor and married her. His son eventually succeeded him as king of Rohan.
-Faramir was appointed as steward of Gondor, became a high-ranking noble and one of Aragorn's main commanders. He personally led the assault on Minas Morgul to rid Middle Earth of all evil. Aragorn trusted him so much that Faramir would oversee Gondor while he was away. He married Eowyn and they had one son together. It is actually written by Tolkien that Faramir and Eowyn's grandson was the one who chronicled Aragorn and Arwen's love into a love story.
-Gimli: He went to the Lonely Mountain, gathered a band of dwarves and headed to the Glittering Caves and they established a new Dwarven kingdom. He became the first lord. They set out, repairing all the damage that the War had inflicted and even repaired the great gate of Minas Tirith. After Aragorn passed away, well, he was invited by his friend Legolas to sail on the ship to the Undying lands. He was the first and only dwarf ever granted this honor.
-Legolas: He stayed for Aragorn's coronation and of course, his wedding with Arwen. Afterwards, he helped Gimli establish the Glittering Caves kingdom and then went off to Fangorn Forest and returned home to Ithilien. And, like I said before, when Aragorn passed away, he realized his mission of restoring the great forests was over and went to invite Gimli on a voyage to the Undying Lands.
-The Ents actually took over Isengard and it was restored back to its former glory.
Three movies and eleven hours later: "I don't like this ring at all."
Yeah, it's not really as nice as it seems.
"My Precious!"
I’m starting to think this Hitler guy is kind of a meanie.
Skipping Theodens Speech before the Charge of the Rohirrim is an actual crime
The fact you remember it, is testament to it's power.
"Ride for wrath! Ride for ruin!
And the red dawn! 'Ere the sun rises!"
@@jean-paulaudette9246 DEAAAAAAAAAAATH!!!
agree so much
@@jean-paulaudette9246
And the world's ending! *
red dawn was at helms deep
Ride for ruin!
And the world's ending!
DEATH!
Fun fact, Sam is so powerful that in the books while he has the ring it entices him with visions of Sam the greatest gardener in the world, turning Mordor into one gigantic garden. And Sam considers it for a second and then he's "nah".
Sam had the ring for less than 3 days. Frodo had the ring for more than 17 years.
@@ghyslainabel tecnically he just recibed the benefits of it since just started to carry it when he has to leave the shire so i would say just the 12-13 months of the journey (but i dont remember a lot of the books since i read it years ago, i have to reread it)
@@gabrifreire1120 in the book, the journey was from September to the next March, so around 6 months.
However, even if Frodo does not use the ring, he technically owns it, and the ring has an influence on him. When Gandalf visited Frodo in May (a couple of months before the journey), Gandalf asked Frodo to throw the ring into his little fire. Frodo could not do it. I will add that the ring becomes stronger as it goes toward Mordor.
@@ghyslainabel Yes, but Sauron hadn’t returned then, so it didn’t have its “master” right? Wasn’t that what sparked the whole thing off and the need to make that journey? Or even with Sauron gone did it still retain his will just as much as it did when he came back?
@@ghyslainabel I didnt remember that about frodo, sorry then, i did know that the ring becomes stronger, thats why i thought that being in the shire and didnt have it with him at all times like bilbo it didnt affect frodo
Fun fact, the weapon that Merry uses to stab the Witch King is a Barrow-blade, a magical dagger which just so happened to be one of the only weapons in the world that can break the Witch Kings protection and allow Eowyn to stab and ultimately kill him. All of the hobbits got these weapons early in the movie from a burial ground when a character that was omitted from the films saved them from a Barrow-wight.
Tom Bombadil. :D
Favorite character: The Olog-hai (troll) at the end, that realizes before anyone else that Sauron is done and gone, turns and runs. Smartest guy on the field. 😎👍
They were under spells to be controlled weren't they? Sauron goes down and the spell breaks. Not to mention once the clouds clear the sun will turn him to stone. Lol!
@@themetalpig7613 Not quite. The Olog-hai are advanced trolls. Similar to Uruk-hai vs. common orcs, the greater trolls are resistant to sunlight and a lot smarter than their primitive, cave dwelling counterparts.
“You’re my Rosie” 😂 smooth brother. ✊🏼
Wow, how she doesn't even shed a tear is actually quite impressive. I think it should be a challenge to find a movie that would make her cry
Agree!
Green Mile?
if this doesn't make her, nothing will
I was thinking that too. Watching them even shortened and I'm totally tearing up!
If LOTR, especially ROTK doesn't make her cry, I don;t think a movie exists that could.
"Don't let go!"
Let go.
"Don't you let go"
Let go.
I love her 😂❤
FYI: In the books Marry and Pipin are not a chance companions that run into them in the field. They both decide to help Frodo deal with the burden in any way they can. Hobbits are loyal above all.
And Sam wanted to go with Frodo. Gandalf told him to go but he was eager too.
It’s not the books, it’s the movies. See rate the two and appreciate both
She's the first person I've seen who said for Frodo to "let go" 😂
i mean, she's kind of right. It ruined him forever and will always haunt him to the point where he had to leave the freaking continent.
@@dash4800 he left cause he feels hes soul is so damaged and hes probably right, there what ever this place is he can heal
"I can't throw it in for you, but I can throw you" :D
Lol 🤣😆
Peter Jackson is such a great actor! He knows how to take an arrow!
He is even better at coming into frame, sword in hand.
@@ghyslainabel Let alone a carrot.
"You bow to no one" gets me every time! Watched it a bunch of times since he first came out and it still gets me!
The only time in the history of Middle Earth that any Hobbit stood taller than everyone else!!
huh...I've never seen someone interpret the pause before the ring is destroyed as "Frodo has to die too."
That's what she thought. 😂
I suspect she, like many others, is probably assuming Game of Throne tropes. I've watched other reactors also expecting Sam or Frodo (or many of the others) to die quite possibly because of modern expectations, including Game of Thrones.
@@YouMeTheMovies Not a bad assumption -- Sam should have tossed him in at that point -- "Apologies Mr. Frodo, better safe than sorry!!!" :-)
@@YouMeTheMovies I thought it was quite an interesting thought. That though the Ring was bound to the soul of Sauron it also tied itself to whoever was its Bearer. Did you explain to her that the delay was likely because the Ring is a true Artifact and the *only* place it could be unmade was where it was?
I always thought it's the opposite, that the lava crust would've kept the ring alive if Frodo would've let go, but the power of Frodo's will when he reached for Sam's hand made the ring lose enough power for that lava crust to crumble, or something like this.
All of the characters in this trilogy are great, but if I were to choose a favorite, it would probably be Sam. As Frodo admitted, he wouldn't have made it very far without Sam.
Yeah, Frodo was too damaged to stick around. In the books it's explained that his stab wound never healed and every year to the day it would make Frodo ill. Probably would eventually kill him & turn him into a wraith. Not to mention the spider sting wound & the PTSD from everything. Plus, the ring had become like a part of him so a part of him died when the ring was destroyed.
But don't be sad. After Sam lives a long & happy life, where he's the Mayor of Hobbiton has many children, he goes to reunite with Frodo & Bilbo after his Rosie passed on. And Sam can do that because he was technically a ring bearer if just for a little while. But still, long enough to be tempted by the ring in that tower. The ring tried to tempt him with visions of the Greatest & Best Gardner in Middle Earth. But Sam beat his temptation when he realized Middle Earth is too much of a garden to maintain & he's content with his garden back home.
Like him or not, you gotta admit, Denethor knows how to go out in style.
He's not "riding a shark, strapping 250 pounds of dynamite on his chest and into the mouth of an active volcano" stylish.
If "in style" means "to bring the audience back at battle in front of the city". Denethor had to climb from the 6th to the 7th level of the city and run the entire courtyard.
Problem was: nobody, except Gandalf and Pipin, watched him as everyone was fighting the orcs. 😅
Imagine being in a movie theater back in December 2003 watching this masterpiece film, imagine you at the time just thinking this is too much for you to handle, the amount of chills & tears you would've had at the time, knowing that people around that time are not used to seeing epic and beautiful films like this
I was there, my friend, and it was every bit as beautiful as you imagine.
Agreed, it is an unforgettable experience!
I was there, watching it alone because no one I knew would have appreciated it enough to watch it with. I was crying so bad I made the people next to me cry too, and suddenly the whole theater was weeping. Verily - "And he sang to them, now in the Elven-tongue, now in the speech of the West, until their hearts, wounded with sweet words, overflowed, and their joy was like swords, and they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness."
Yes I was there in the theater by myself because I had no one to watch it with me. Boy did I make a big mistake by going to see that movie with no Kleenex. By the end of the movie I was a complete mess. I had wiped so much snot on my pants they were shiny!! After the movie was over and everybody left the theater I was still sitting in there trying to get my heart to calm down hahaha what a movie!!
I was there and all I could think was when will this end. I liked it, but the ending dragged out way too long. It's why it's my least favorite of the 3. Also, I don't know why any LOTR would make anyone cry, I'm sensitive and I never shed a tear. They aren't really that kind of movie.
"No man can kill me!"
Gets killed by a woman and a hobbit 😂
In the book, the sword Merry used to stab him in the leg was forged precisedly to be effective against him when the Witch King was a man. It as "meant" to happen. Another encouraging thought.
@@custardflan the prophecy was misunderstood.
It wasn’t that he was unkillable but just when it did happen that it wouldn’t be a man.
@@jspettifer I thiink you are replying toa comment I didn;t make.
I feel Merry's contribution isn't really given the credit it's due.
he's the idiot who misinterpreted the prophesy. Which led to arrogance.
What I like about this entire story - it seems like each of the key characters reaches a breaking point, realizing that they've already lost, that they're going to die, and how each of them deals with that moment. Saruman tries to switch sides, Boromir fights on because damn the arrows, Denethor implodes and tries to burn himself alive, Theoden rides head-first into honor, death and glory, Aragorn & Co willingly make themselves diversion-bait, and Sam throws Frodo on his back and keeps climbing. It's all about what to do after you've given up, when you know it's over except you're still standing, and you place your last couple crumbs of faith on the certainty that some miracle still might save you (Tolkien coined the word "eucastastrophe" for this), and you keep trekkin' because that miracle will be worth it.
30:53
The elves, ringbearers and Gandalf were summoned to Valinor, the Undying Lands, to live out the rest of their lives in peace. Legolas would take Gimli with him once he set sails there, making Gimli the only dwarf to be granted passage.
Sam would eventually sail there too in his old age, after his final term as mayor and Rosie passes away, but it's not known wether he made it or not
I like to think he did
I LOVE Gimli and Legolas's friendship/character development together. Elves and dwarves are just known to not get along too well together, due to past history, etc. Oil and water. But these two ended up sailing together to Valinor (where Frodo and Gandalf sail off to at the end). These two started off as enemies, but ended up coming around full circle.
I don't think Eomir was screaming because he thought Eowyn was dead. Rather, she wasn't even supposed to be there. So to find her there, and wounded from the fight, would be traumatic.
She and Merry basically suffered from PTSD from their encounter with the Witch King even though they didn't suffer any physical wounds to speak of.
@@custardflan I don't know if I'd go so far as to say they didn't suffer any physical injuries at all. The Breath of the Witch King acts fairly similarly to a poison. They both came pretty close to dying.
@@custardflan I'm pretty sure that mace blow to her shield broke her arm.
@@jamesjoseph1249 That too.
@@jamesjoseph1249 Pretty sure you're right but the books makes clear the effect of the Witch King was her and Merry's main hurt.
I love how she wanted Frodo dead after he wouldn't throw the ring in. 😂
She actually thought he had to die for the ring to get destroyed. 😂
Sam: "Don't let go!"
Her: "Let go."🤣🤣
Jump!
@@DavidLopez-qi8hb It is like me when I saw this muvie as kid :D
@@DavidLopez-qi8hb That actually made me laugh.
Gandalf came w 3 Eagles 🦅
I like to think he still had hope for Sméagol
Anybody here think that Smeagol could survive watching how Frodo is destroying his precious? No
Gandalf was the wisest being of Middle Earth, not a fool. He was who better knew Smeagol because he interrogated him some time before.
The third eagle does not even stop to look behind the rock if there is someone else, and he leaves at the same moment that his partner picked up Sam (in the movie).
In the books and in the ilustrations there was an eagle for Gandalf, one for Frodo, and one for Sam.
So no, there was no eagle for the poor Smeagol
Read the books ! Gwaihir the eagle offered to take gandalf to mount doom and Gandalf accepted the offer and asked Gwaihir to bring his brother as well as their fastest eagle because they would need to be faster than saurons fell beasts as well as overpowering the northern wind.
Peter Jackson explained that they couldn't just have the ring instantly dissolve. It would have been anti-climactic.
Well...I mean it's what would happen...It wouldn't sink and it would slowly melt. Just like an ice cube in boiling water.
Genius. The ending in the movie is far better than the books.
Suspense over science. Ah Jackson, you bunghole! 🤦
Jackson didn't want the ring to finally lose it's power until Frodo made the choice to live, rather than let go and fall in.
@@rickardroach9075 wait...what do you think happens in real life?
fun fact: the cute little hobbit running up to Sean Astin at the end is his real daughter Elizabeth
And the baby he's holding belong to the actress playing Rosie.
@@custardflan i didn't even know that ! So cute
Sam was not the only one to give up the ring willingly - Bilbo did it before he left the house and, surprisingly, Boromir on that mountain pass.
my favorite character is Boromir because he is the embodiment of humanity, he screws it but then comes back to fix it. well more time for drinking
30:37 Interestingly that only happens in the movie, in the book it was no accident. Merry, Pippin and Sam conspired and lied to Frodo in order to go with him (Frodo was keeping the travel as a secret and was planning on going alone because it was too dangerous, but they found out and decided to trick him so he didn't have to go alone). But it probably would have taken a long time to show that part of the book, since the beggining part of the first book until they meet Aragorn is much longer than in the movie (and after they meet him too), and the movie is already almost 4 hours long in the extended version. Peter Jackson did similar things with many parts of the story, mostly out of necessity.
Just wanted to mention I love the pithy, practical comments, like "Just chuck it!" and "Thank you, Gandalf! What a bunghole!" 👍
First, I want to be clear. I really enjoyed all the lady brought to the reaction. She was so different and fun but omg she was so insightful. She guessed so may things before they happened. It was just a pleasure going through this series with you both.
Reading the books, my favorite is Faramir. He's fleshed out more in the books and he's just a normal man trying to do good. While Aragorn has some supernatural powers about him. From the movies, Aragorn with Sam a close second. I just love "Ranger" types. And Faramir also would be considered a ranger.
In the books it didn't end this way. Saruman didn't die on the top of his tower. He had a secret evil syndicate he ran in the Shire and thats where he was getting all his pipe weed and food supplies from. gandalf let him go at the tower and Saruman went back to The Shire and ran it under his alias, "Sharky." He turned The Shire into a ruin like the one Frodo saw in Galadriel's mirror. Sharky, Saruman, had a bunch of evil men and bad hobbits working for him. Most of the good ones he put in jail or killed. When the 4 hobbits came back they led a revolt with the remaining good hobbits to kick Sharky out The Shire. Sharky was killed my Wormtongue after the revolt when he said bad things about Wormtongue.
In The Shire, Frodo was NOT considered a hero. To them it was Merry and Pippin that were the heroes because they are the ones that led the revolt. And they had become uncommonly large hobbits from drinking the Ent water. Frodo and Sam mostly tried to keep the violence and killing to a minimum. Then Sam Married Rosie and had 13 kids with her and became mayor like a zillion times. Frodo just lived a quiet life until he left with the elves several years later.
I understand the at the Christopher Lee (The actor who played Saruman) was _very_ unhappy about omitting _The Scouring of the Shire_ from the movie because he was a hardcore fan of the books from way back.
The heads delivered by catapult is a real thing from history, actually happened in my country during the Great Siege of Malta of 1565. The Knights ran out of cannonballs so they used the heads of the Ottoman Turk prisoners instead
Roland! *load the boneshot*
It's a very old practice, probably about as old as artillery itself. Though I question your description of the intentions of it. It's not something done when one runs out of ammo - heads suck in that role - it's something one does to cause terror and, to a much lesser extent, increase the chances of disease in the besieged position.
@@michaelccozens it's what our history books said though, not saying they were correct but we did get to study them in school :)
I love all the fellowship, but Gandalf in particular. He says the most wise and profound things.
The soloist playing the Rohirrim theme is not using a regular violin, but a Hardanger fiddle - a Norwegian folk instrument with sympathetic strings, giving that theme a very special, ethereal timbre.
Nah, this chick is just too hard. Not a single tear for even that final goodbye.
True, it's weird she didn't cry at all, but if you think she's hard you should watch her reaction for The Descent.
shes so stoic in all her reactions i can only imagine this lady has seen some hardship in her life
I like how the husband pulls the hair away from his wife’s face, and rubs her shoulder, etc. while watching the movie. Wholesome goodness.
"Don't crush it you could eat it still!" = my thoughts every single time
Never seen someone root so hard for Frodo's death at the end. Hahaha. Bloodthirsty lady.
She thought he had to die for the ring to be destroyed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
it would have been better ending with Frodo dying... he was corrupted by the ring in the end
@@azazello1784 According to Tolkien's Letters Frodo was preparing to jump in with the Ring if nothing else would have worked.
Around 13:15 ... on my wife's gravestone is inscribed "All Will Turn to Silver Glass". For the memory of all that have gone in the knowledge that a brighter place awaits.
And 27:50 ... aye, I know how that feels good sir
Pippin, who everybody made fun of.... who everybody talked down to... he saved Gandalf, and then he saved Faramir... after lighting the beacon that saved Gondor. And well after instigating the defeat of Sarumon.
Go ahead... belittle him now.
Aragorn had to let the dead army go. They had sworn an oath to aid Gondor. So they hadn't sworn to go to Mordor.
Aragorn had to stick with truth. That was sound logic from Tolkien - and a reminder for us about the importance of sticking to truth, even when it might look disadvantageous at the first look.
"The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many."
First time ive ever heard anyone suggest Frodo ''swan dive'' into Mount Doom.
one of my favorite bits in the book is when Shelob (the giant spider) is dealt with, Tolkien gets REALLY cheeky. He basically wrote it like "I'm not saying she was so humiliated and wounded by that epic stab wound Sam gave her that she crawled into a hole seething with self-pity and rage for thousands of years until she turned to dust.... BUT... that might be what happened. I dunno. that'd be cool, huh? anyway..." and then continues on to the next chapter lol
EDIT: Sam in the book isn't immune to the Ring when he carries it, but he is JUST strong enough to be aware of it, like he feels affection for the thing almost immediately but he's still got just enough strength to be scared shitless of it. But another thing the movies don't really make as strong a point of as the books is that all hobbits in general are the most immune to the Ring. they're just so pure and simple that no other species or race is as resistant to it as them, so that's kind of also why Sam was able to carry it for as long as he did, but just barely before he gives it back to Frodo.
you have skipped the most epic moment in a movie of all time, Theoden's speech to the Rohirrim in the fields of Pelennor
Oh my god I DIED when she said " so close...now ..can you throw it from there?" lol
Part of the One Ring's magic is that the ring-bearer cannot willingly destroy it. In the book Gandalf explains as much when he first tells Frodo what the ring really is.
I remember watching it when I was younger, my favourite characters were the Hobbits. Then when I got older I wanted to watch more of Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli. My favourite character never changed though. Sam was always my favourite.
When the Gondorians are kneeling before the Hobbits, 75% of Hobbits show the proper response. And then there's Pippin!
The chubby little Hobbit baby at the end is Sean Astin's real life daughter. She just graduated from college in 2021.
Things that make grown men cry:
"Fly you fools!"
"My brother, my captain, my King"
"I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!"
"Rosie Cotton dancing. She had ribbons in her hair! If ever I was to marry someone.. it would have been her.. It would have been her!"
"I'm glad to be with you Samwise Gamgee, here at the end of all things"
"My friends, you bow to no one."
Also literally any scene with Arwen. 😭😭
Great reaction as always and Mrs Movies reaction to Shelob was brilliant to watch, Shelob is the spawn of Ungoliant as for the spiders of Mirkwood they are actually the offspring of Shelob so Ugoliant would be there grandmother if you want to look at it that way, the scene "my friends you bow to no one" gets me every time and my favourite character is actually 2 of them its Gimli and Legolas because they went from hating and despising each other to being true friends and remained as that even sailing of into the west together.
Fun facts: Frodo has never recovered from that mortal wound that mortal blade inflicted plus the fact that he was the ring bearer the reason why he went with Bilbo to the undying lands and Sam followed after as he was a ring bearer for a short time and reunite with Frodo at the end of their lives in the undying lands.
Ok, RE: The Oathbreakers/ghost army: 1) Back in the First Age, Sauron was a servant of a much greater evil being, called Morgoth. After an alliance of elves, men, dwarves and Ainu (demi-gods/angels) managed to throw down Morgoth, the world was changed, and Sauron fled the field, and for a long time, was repentant, and directed his energies to aiding and teaching the peoples of middle-earth, taking the beautiful shape that was called "Annatar" (the giver of gifts). Eventually, he saw the great power this role could give him, and he used it to manipulate the Elves or Eregion in the art of crafting Rings of Power. BUT, before that!
He had been a great teacher of certain tribes of men. The oathbreakers were sworn to aid Isildur in the battle against Sauron, but they still remembered and loved Sauron/Annatar, for bringing them out of their days of ignorance, to knowledge...so they refused to take arms against him -- and thus they suffered Isildur's curse.
A little detail I don't think many people notice when Gandalf came on the eagles to get Frodo and Sam there was a third eagle I think was meant to pick up Gollum. : (
Gollum*
@@CptPatrik Gollum -- Gollum -- Gollum -- hssgk!!!
Anybody here think that Smeagol could survive watching how Frodo is destroying his precious? No
Gandalf was the wisest being of Middle Earth, not a fool. He was who better knew Smeagol because he interrogated him some time before.
The third eagle does not even stop to look behind the rock if there is someone else, and he leaves at the same moment that his partner picked up Sam (in the movie).
In the books and in the ilustrations there was an eagle for Gandalf, one for Frodo, and one for Sam.
So no, there was no eagle for the poor Smeagol
@@manel4361 I don't agree that the third Eagle doesn't stop to look in the movie. if you look closely it does examine the rock for literally a second then flies away. That being said sounds like you know about the source material a lot more than I do. I never read the books only saw the movies.
@@movieman175 if you look more closely, you notice that this eagle is behind the eagle who picks up Sam, and he leaves at the same time that the other eagle pick up him. If you are looking for another creature, at least you look at the other side of the rock, and something more than only one second.
I guess the ring was floating on the lava, because it still had that last hope to be saved by Frodo (Frodo letting himself go fall down from that protrusion and by some miracle..). Once Frodo reached out that hope was gone and it gave up it's resistance.
Saw you mouth the words, "You don't bow to no one." When Aragorn said that line. Can't blame you though, because I did it too. 🤣
Rewatching the video, I mouth a lot of the quotes. I think I've seen LOTR too many times. Nah... that's not possible. Glad she finally watched it though :)
@@YouMeTheMovies indeed! I dont know how many times I have seen these movies. They are my favorites! Love seeing new people watch these films and watching them fall in love with it.
John Rhys-Davies who played Gimli apparently never practiced is combat with the stunpeople; he just showed up, asked how many would come at him and then just hit them all with his axe!
15:40 She killed the Witch King, but she's still in the middle of a battlefield. Striking a Ringwraith does damage to you as well, that's why Merry cried out.
Sam is the real hero. Even in Mordor Sam manages to give back the ring. Only Bilbo and Sam were able to give up the Ring and Bilbo only does it with Gandalf's help.
>Sam is the real hero
It's internet exaggeration of Tolkien's words.
Tolkien has also said that Frodo is a heroic character, but not a heroic a sense in which public considers heroes. While Sam is triumphant hero who has reached his goal, Frodo is a tragic one. His heroism is in the fact that he went the whole way and delivered his burden until the last possible moment.
No one, even Sauron, could actually voluntarily destroy The Ring in the place where it's most powerful. Frodo suffered One Ring for a long time and was broken by it at the end, he's a martyr. So there's nothing Frodo could have done, and Sam either. He wouldn't be able to destroy The Ring just like Frodo. Gollum's fall was only salvation and the second direct intervention of Iluvatar (god) in the books, first one being resurrection of Gandalf
Denathor better have made himself useful at the end and landed on an orc on his way down.
Everyone: "HOLD ON FRODO!"
Mrs: "Let go..."
🤣🤣🤣 My Dwight Schrute of Middle Earth comparison held true through this vid!
So in the lore there is a way to kill the undead, there was a war between the Nazgul and the Dunadain. All the weapons forged to kill the undead were buried in the Barrow-Downs by the Nazguls army, but the blades that the Hobbits were given by Tom Bombadil are from the Barrow Downs
It’s been a long time since I read the books, but Gandalf losing to the witch king seems a bit unlikely to me. Am I wrong? Gandalf is an angel of sorts while the witch king is just a human wraith, right?
Yes, you are right. IMO that's the only "flaw" of the extended edition
Yeah, it doesn't go down like that *at all* in the books. They basically reach a stalemate. One of the few film revisions I think was poorly thought out.
@@livebackwards It's still impressive the Witch King doesn't immediately get owned though considering how strong Gandalf is.
I like the alteration, myself. It really puts an emphasis on just how powerful Sauron has become and just how dire the situation is. And it makes the Witch-King's defeat that much more miraculous and heroic.
This is a typical problem in traditional "hero's journey" narratives; you need a wise guide, but also a reason why they don't just solve the hero's problems themselves, given their knowledge and power (eg. "Why doesn't Yoda just go eliminate the Sith?" or "Why does Merlin need King Arthur at all?").
As to how a creature like the Witch-King could challenge something like an angel, it's a fair question, but the Elves are also (lesser) semi-divine beings, and they still die pretty easy. So there's a bit of a precedent, anyway. And the Balrog did actually kill Gandalf pre-"upgrade". It was a demon, sure, but as there doesn't seem to be a purely-supernatural "Devil" figure in LOTR, it's hard to see how that isn't a demonstration of Tolkien's angels being perhaps spiritually immortal, but physically about as vulnerable as anyone else, their robust defenses aside.
@@michaelccozens Weirdly, one thing I've noticed is that basically every fan who hated the scene always forget that the wizards were restricted in their powers when they went from Maiar to Istari. The Witch King was challenging Gandalf as a wizard not his original form of Olorin. The wizards being Maiar was never mentioned at all in the movies and was only barely hinted at by Gandalf's line, "I've been sent back until my task is done". At most the wizards were old men with magic powers in the movies. Nothing more.
Lord of the Rings was published in 1948 after WWII, so it's a coming-of-age story both for how the world changed and the people in it. One of my favorite lines is spoken by Frodo, "The Shire HAS been saved, Sam. But not for me."
Fellowship was published in 1954, not 1948. 1949 is when it was essentially completed, though he still polished it and wrote appendix material after that. And he started writing it in 1937. Tolkien also insisted it had nothing to do with WWII (he hated when people treated it as an allegory for the second war, or for anything else) though his own experiences in WWI had an influence on his depictions of war (the Dead Marshes for instance) and he talked about Sam being inspired by several "batmen" he knew during the war as an officer.
Many years later, after serving several terms as mayor, Samwise Gamgee, the last of the ringbearers, also boarded a ship to the west.
In case you didn't notice, there was a third eagle for Gollum that left Mt Doom empty handed. Gandalf never gave up hope that Smeagol could be redeemed.
Also, Sam does eventually go to the Undying Lands to spend his final days with Frodo after Rosie dies about 50 years later.
as an aside note: Aragorn's childhood name was "Estel" which means "Hope" in Numenorean, his mother says of him when he is born "i give Hope to Men, i keep none for myself"
Top Moments I have cried FULL man tears to these movies...
Fellowship of the Ring:
Gandalf's speech - Frodo: "I wish the ring had never come to me, I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All that we have to do is decide is what to do with the time that is given to us..."
Boromir's Death - "I would've followed you my brother, my captain, my king..."
Frodo saving Sam from drowning - "I made a promise Mr. Frodo, a promise! Don't you leave him Samwise Gamgee, and I don't mean to... I don't mean to..."
The Two Towers:
Theoden: "No parent should ever have to bury their child..." (I am not even a father and this makes me sob.)
#3 - Sam's Speech - Sam: "By rights we shouldn’t even be here. But we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy?..." "... But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something." Frodo: "What are we holding onto, Sam?" Sam: "That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo… and it’s worth fighting for.”
Return of the King
Faramir's Confrontation - "You wish now that our places had been exchanged. That I had died and Boromir had lived..."
Ride of the Rohirrim/Merry&Éowyn - "Courage, Merry. Courage for our friends."
White Shores - Gandalf: "End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it." Pippen: "What? Gandalf? See what?" Gandalf: "White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise."
Theoden's Death - Éowyn: "I'm going to save you." Theoden: "You already did. My body is broken. You have to let me go."
Pippen finding Merry - Merry: "Are you going to leave me?" Pippen: "No Merry, I'm going to look after you."
Aragorn's speech at the Black Gate
Sam carrying Frodo
Sam pulling Frodo up - Sam: "Don't you let go!..."
#2 - Sam and Frodo on the rock - Sam: "Rosie Cotton dancing... If ever I was to marry a girl... it would've been her..."
#1 - The crowning of the king - Aragorn: "My friends.... you bow to no one" *Insert swelling music here*
My favorite characters are Theoden, Eowin and Faramir because they are the most human of all. They had doubts, faults, broken dreams, but still remain true to goodness. We are all frail human beings and they are my inspiration.
Favorite character is Boromir. He's a flawed but decent human being trying his best to balance all the responsibilities places upon him in a world of elves and wizards. His ambition to accomplish those goals compounded by his strained relationship with Aragron (the true king) gets twisted by the ring to get the better of him. In the end, he fights for what he believes is right and dies having fought to redeem himself, and still his dying words to Aragorn indicate he knows what he did and feels terrible about it.
Human too the last.
The blooming tree signifies that the king has returned.
21:05 I don't know why they didn't include this in the theatrical version. It adds so much to the story. You get a glimpse into the actual culture and accent and traditions of Mordor. And the way he has that blood in his mouth pushing out between his teeth and being wiped away by his lips with those grey bleeding gums is just so terrible. It makes me want to jam toothpicks into my gums for some reason! Also giving Gandalf the mithril rings that Frodo carried adds a whole other dimension to their hopelessness. Really great bluff!
Jackson should've kept in the "Scouring of The Shire" ending.
For those who don't know what this is READ THE BOOKS.
I don't think it would have worked at all in movie form. It works in books, but in movies you can't really begin the wrap-up, and then throw in another sudden big long struggle right at the end. I fully believe it would have just made it a worse movie. Also, it would have added at *minimum* like 20-minutes to an already crazy long movie that already had a boatload of hard cuts even for the Extended.
@@Blackbaldrik Aye maybe. We'll never know now for sure.
@@steveross2649 Skipping the Scouring and the portrayal of Denethor and Faramir, are the decisions of Jackson that I most disagree with. Well, otherwise it was a heroic effort.
fun fact, after drinking all that ent water, merry and pippin were the tallest hobbits in history. the massive cloud-scraping heights they reached? somewhere between 4 and a half to five foot or about as tall as danny devito. maybe a smidge shorter.
Two scenes that are scientifically proven to make you cry:
1. Forest Gump when Forest talks to Jenny's Grave about their son
2. "You bow to NO ONE."
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Eowyn had her left arm broken and suffered burns by stabbing the Witch King ,so she was left very weakened
Favorite Character of The Entire Trilogy?
It has to be Aragorn, not just because he's a good fighter, he inspires everyone around him, he didn't want to be King but did so that the world of men could be united against Sauron and he remains true to Arwen even if he knows he'll never see her again.
That is movie nonsense. In the books, Aragorn is still a great guy, but he always intended to be king and claim his throne.
@@jacobwalsh1888 yes I get that, but I'm solely talking about the movies, I'm not denying anything about the books, but sometimes it's easier to relate to a character when we can see them on a screen accompanied by Superb acting, special effects & a film score that will drive you to tears of joy 👍
i love how in the moment Frodo puts the Ring on inside Mount Doom, Saurons Eye immediatly looks over there in total shock as he realizes the rings location and whats probably about to happen. well done graphics department!
30:02 It's more about feeling out of place because they all went through war and no one else at home can understand how they feel and how it changed them, and it was all for preserving that very "innocence" of the Shire. It's what men like Tolkien experienced coming home from war. I believe in his letters to his son Christopher (who ended up editing and publishing a ton of his father's unpublished work after his death), Tolkien talked about being closer to Christopher when he went through WWII and could relate to his father's experience in WWI.
Lord of the Rings will be one of those series that won’t be remade anytime soon. It will be impossible to live up to this.
Besides the main group (fellowship), I really liked Ferimir. He let Frodo and Sam go with the ring! he faced the Orks when he knew he would die, and he was a kind and loving brother. Im really glad he lived, and joined with Aewin, So his courage and good heart impressed me a lot.
If you like him in the movies, you'd love him in the books! He was always my favorite character in the books, and I was so mad that Jackson "ruined" him! (I'm glad to see he didn't completely ruin him for the uninitiated though apparently)
Gimli probably the most reasonable dwarves among his kin & the only dwarves that's ever being blessed by lady Galadriel & also the only dwarves who's rest in undying land along with his best friends legolas
- I didn't think it would end.
- End? No, the journey doesn't end here. The Hobbit is just another trilogy, one that we all must watch. A Unexpected Journey, The Desolation of Smaug and then you see...
- What? Gandalf? See what?
- The Battle Of Five Armies.
- Well, that isn't so bad.
- No, no. it isn't.
Not the epic greatness that is LOTR but an enjoyable jaunt all the same.
The guy on the ship who gets shot by Legolas after Gimli nudges his bow is actually the director, Peter Jackson, playing a cameo role.
The mythology behind Middle-Earth is surprisingly beautiful, and the more I read the more I got drawn in. It would take a long time to deep dive the all of it, but Tolkein really had an impressive way of carving out a really unique vision of how he saw his creation. This is pretty much the inspiration of all fantasy outside of Arthurian Lore. The games, despite many of them being made by B Grade studios with little experience, all ended up being charming at minimum, and able to effectively reproduce the epic feel when the theme hits at best; they cover multiple genres, across two decades of products from various studious.
All that being said, if you want to deep dive into the fantasy genre, do a little 80's gem known as Krull next.
Doesn't matter how many times i see the Ride of the Rohirrim. It will always give me goosebumps
Just so epic remember watching this in theater when i was 14. i just sat in awe
Gandalf is the the coolest. I like wizards, what can I say. Gotta have the hat though. Sauron is pretty high on the villain tier.
While Tolkien gets much deserved credit for his fantasy writing and world building, Robert E. Howard is often overlooked as a pillar of this general field, very influential. He essentially invented the sword and sorcery adventure genre with his Conan books in the 20's. Lots of cool stuff there, a world of total badassery waiting to be adapted properly.
Fair enough, but we shouldn't forget that "sword and sorcery" is itself more-or-less an updating of chivalric fables.
"And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the city, a cock crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of war nor of wizardry, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn.
And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horns, horns, in dark Mindolluin's sides they dimly echoed. Great horns of the north wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last.”
The reason that both Merry and Eowyn were dying after the Battle of the Pelennor Fields is that they both touched the Witch King in battle. The sickness that came upon them would have taken their lives but for the healing powers of Aragorn.
I watched this movie when I'm was kid and I really love Sam then until now. He has a patience of a saint and he's very brave.
Eowyn dipped that sword in the stew before stabbing the witch king
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Right in the mouth. He was swordfed a mouthful.
Favorite character, that's a hard one. Gollum I really like as a tragic villain, especially since the villains in these movies don't have a lot of backstory or real character, Saruman is probably the closest aside from him. Sam was always a personal favorite of mine but in recent years I've liked Boromir more and more for how flawed he is, yet still dies doing the right thing, in that sense he's deeper than a lot of the other members of the fellowship, to me at least.
Boromirs tangent was certainly a redemption story on it's own.
For all the years since I‘ve known the films and books, Gandalf (white) is my fav. It‘s a mix of him being this ancient being while also having wit. He‘s a great friend a great leader.
I always thought it'd be more effective to charge the elephants from the side. Charging head on is just lunacy.
Sam: 'Don't you let go...Mrs. Movies: 'Let go...for the love of gravy...just let go!!!'😂
Legolas is my favorite. His takedown of the oliphant is my favorite moment in the entire saga.
Favorite Lord of the Rings character: Meriadoc Brandybuck ("Merry") - First, because Meriadoc is such a cool name. And I like the actor that played him. He nailed the role, as far as I'm concerned.
But more importantly:
Merry was one of the most intelligent and perceptive hobbits ever. You don't see it as much in the movies, although there are moments. Like he recognized instantly that Frodo couldn't continue on with the Fellowship, that he had to leave. But in the books, he knew the One Ring was something special and dangerous, and knew he had to protect it *and* Frodo before Frodo even knew there was something wrong with it.
He fought bravely for his friends and his home his entire life, despite being a humble hobbit from the corner of the world. From defending Frodo early on, to fighting alongside a dying Boromir. He fought the Witch-King, the first to ever wound him, and was the reason why Eowyn was able to defeat the Witch-King. During the Scouring of the Shire (*), he fought on the front lines and retook his homeland.
Then he married, wrote a book, had a son, grew old, traveled back to Rohan and passed away. Upon Aragorn's death, he was entombed beside him. (As was Pippin.)
(*) Re: The Scouring of The Shire - Remember the "flashback"-like scene of the hobbits being enslaved when The Fellowship first meets Galadriel? That actually happens. Saruman takes over the Shire as revenge against Gandalf and his love of the hobbits, but also out of raw hatred for the peaceful, unspoiled Shire, and isn't killed by Wormtongue until much later on.
Thanks folks, thoroughly enjoyed the reactions. Look forward to seeing more. Take care.