Build Comparison: DW Performance vs PDP Concept Snare Drum Comparison
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2022
- Here I have the ORIGINAL DW Performance series snare drum before they swapped to the current lugs you know today. I was on a facebook drum group when I saw a lot of people calling out this snare as a rebadged PDP concept snare. This is INCORRECT. So I put this video together since I happen to own both a matching DW and PDP snare and share with you the differences. If you have any questions feel free to ask away in the comments below!! Thanks for watching!
Also, I have created a sound comparison video.. you can find that here!
• Sound Comparison: DW P...
I do apologize as my microphone went out and I had to modify my camera mic half way through the video.
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Follow this link to hear the difference between these two snare drums!
Videos like these make the DW snobs rage hard.
Hahaha you said that right!
Thank you , i was always curious and could never get a in depth answer from anyone on Pdp vs. Performance series
The butt-plates gave it away for me from the beginning, as I own five PDP Concept snare drums, and seeing as how the butt-plate on the DW looked different from what I'm typically used to seeing, that's how I came to my conclusion. But anyone who paid attention to the badges while you were spinning them at 0:40 would have noticed too
Awesome video. I currently use the performance series in white ice i think it was.. 14 x 5.5. Thats what i threw that evans hybrid snare head on. Sounds awesome! May have to make a little sample video next time im at my acoustic kit in a couple weeks.
That's awesome!
Interesting comparison. I much prefer those oval lugs you showed and even the PDP lugs over the round Camco style DW lugs.
That’s cool. I actually like the round. But I’m actuallly glad when ppl like stuff that’s different from me. It makes things more abundant for me.
Thank you so much for this video! I have a similar snare, a natural finish DW Performance 14x5.5 with the same lugs, serial number 12064, and I'm considering a PDP Concept Maple shell pack to match
Those PDP shell packs are no joke. The concept series is honestly just as good if not better than the DW Design series which is made overseas for cost reduction.
Dumb question here. What does the hazy snare side head, the snazzy DW branded snare/wires and the finish on the inside of the drum actually do better than those of the PDP? Is there any appreciable difference in sound or reliability?
Not dumb at all... the finish won't change anything but looks. The snare wires will make a difference as brass vs steel sound/resonance and buzz. As far as the heads go.. compare a coated and none coated. The hazy snare head will give a bit more dampening IMO but it's a nicer head than the thin plastic factory PDP head.
I love these drums
The PDP is truly a great bang for the buck
I can tell which is which because of the butt plates. The PDP has its original which is proprietary, and has a distinct look.
Great news... just picked up a great used PDP set... I have to get a new snare head and wires though.... You guys have an recommendations please? Looking for a nice cracking rock sound. I'm not playing jazz : )
I absolutely LOVE the Evans HD Dry or the Genera Dry snare heads! Along with the 300 or 500 batter head and PureSound 30 snare wires. My go to combo
Zack, can you do a sound comparison as well? I appreciate you. Just ordered the 5.5x14" Concept in Seafoam Satin. Pretty pumped.
already ahead of you my good sir!
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I also just did two other videos on changing snare wires on the PDP Concept Maple and new heads I just put on it.
There are three generations of badges that I have on my pdp.
That badge shows the old version of pdp.
I have a floor 18x16 floor Tom with that badge
Then they came up with the same badge but updated the pdp logo to be the new version
And now the current version is the one that removed dw.
Although the current is probably my favorite or the one before it.
If any of that makes sense
Also I prefer the screws with the pdp because if they strip the pdp can use a different tool to unscrew
But if the dw strips it is much more difficult to remove
Boy... if you strip a screw out it makes me wonder who tightened that up! Hahaha he-man?!? Hahaha but I do use blue loctite myself so it is a possibility!
@@ZackZweifel zack have you ever bought off reverb? Or cl???
You’d be surprised the drum repairs I’ve made on used stuff !
Beginners tend to tighten drums as much as humanly possible I’ve noticed.
I bought my 18x16 used and I could make a video about the problems the seller didn’t mention!
@@TessaAnderson I'm religiously on both hahaha
Maybe do a sound test and or also compare to a DW collector series? 🙂
The sound comparison will be coming out today!
I want that shirt man🔥
The depth is a significant factor. I'm not sure it's worth all the extra $$ but there is more wood involved in the deeper one.
For sure! I like the depth for both visual and sound. The fullness is better to me.
When did the dw performance have the concept looking lugs? Did you put hardware on the dw performance? I havent seen a performance with these lugs
I wrote my DW dealer to find the actual year they did this. But no this is an actual DW snare drum. We did not swap any hardware. This was a short lived small run of drums before they swapped to the performance lugs we know of now.
@@ZackZweifel I actually just came to this realization and researched it because of this video and it checks out! Also founds an awesome looking red and black finish snare with the same hardware from the same era. What I like the most is the lug sleeves are chrome!
They done it a few times and some snares had the tube lugs
No sound test brother ? ;)
Cool
Both has fast-growth maple wood. End conversation.
So basically, throw nice heads and a wires on the PDP and you have the same apart from a few cosmetic details that dont really influence the sound. Gotcha.
Nailed it!
What was the cost of each snare?
The PDP new is around $280-$300 and used you can find them around $180-200
The DW new was around $500 new and used you can find them around $400 (new style lugs) You can find the older style lugs a hair cheaper because people talk them down thinking it's a PDP.
So quite the difference between them!
The Pdp snares sound great tho
I agree, it sounds amazing and I've kept it on the kit even over the DW for all my drum covers.
This is the old performance series yeah
All those differences you can upgrade your pdp snare with and it does not cost 50000000 dollars like the dw and it will still sound amazing or even better then the dw maybe.
This particular Dw performance is the first generation, was made in Ensenada Mexico, couldn’t meet quality and they brought performance series back to Oxnard California , and they changed the lugs to the smaller round lugs 👍🏻
The badge says "made in usa". What part do you think was made in Mexico?
That's totally wrong, they were made in Oxnard, CA. I have one of these and it is stamped Oxnard inside the shell.
@@bgnPrinceton because you got the USA made version that’s why 👍
@@bgnPrinceton yes, you are right , because you got the USA made version, but the first gen was made in Ensenada Mexico 🇲🇽 do I little bit of research if you don’t believe me 🤷
From the very beginning you can see the pdp butt place is crooked
HAHAHA yeah the PDP is at a slight angle
Pdp is the thinner one
cool you can spot the difference at 40 seconds. Next time don't do the spin thing with in the intro.
Two customers buy the same car. One pays for the paint protection and window etching because he thinks it matters and makes him a better driver. I prefer to be the drummer kicking butt on the non DW set and get complimented on how good it sounds. As if the drums play themself
I prefer PDP for the same reason
The concept maple classic kit is the best kit on the market. The tunability. The look. I want to say I read somewhere that its actually made at the DW factory and was a collab between them.
@@BubblegumBrown that would be really awesome if so! Cause I loved it so much I own two of them hahaha
@@ZackZweifel Man. I bought the 26 kick kit and the bop kit, same as you, in ox blood and ebony, then got the 18 floor, then the matching wood hoop snare in the same color, then the concept Black Wax 10x6, the Eric Hernandez 14x4 re-ring maple thiccolo with the 24k gold plating trim (worth it, even at the price now. I put a 42 strand brass DW set of wires on it and the knob is a white noise knob now. I threw the sabian hoop crashers on it, and its so cool. You have to try that set up. Same stock black chrome head.) Ive got another rare 1 of 2, and technically, its hardware is different from the second, but its DWs tribute to the original engraved 1928 black beauty. They gave one of their top shelf BNOB collectors shells to John Aldridge, the master engraver, to put the flower pattern on it, then put on 24k gold TUBE lugs, gold 3 way butt plate, gold MAG, gold true hoops, and I slapped an Evans hybrid on that sumbitch and stuck it in a studio a few blocks away from FAME studios in Muscle Shoals. This is all that put together, actually. The 26 with a super kick 2 batter, with the bop toms tuned super low to the natural frequency of the shells ( you know how low they get. Lolololol). The Evans hybrid on that snare with a 30 strand puresound makes it SUPER punchy with great light snare response in ghost notes. ua-cam.com/video/OeI0JvQ-mHI/v-deo.html
@@BubblegumBrown damn now that is super impressive!!!
No play? Let ears judge it!
I did a second video for the sound comparison. If I had to just eye judge them though I'd go with the deeper DW version personally.
DW design series and performance series are trash.
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