Carl Lewis, the winner of 9 Olympic gold medals wrote: ``She made the transformation from being just another Olympian to one of the most incredible athletes in the world, a change too quick for the imagination. Then there was her voice, much deeper than it had been.''
It's a moral issue: Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here. She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in. A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner: “I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.” Only those who have nothing to hide say so. Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record👍 There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years. FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP❤ Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers. After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy." The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts. Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Then Bob Kersee was the coach of Greg Foster. Greg Foster was the then boyfriend of Florence Griffith. Bob Kersee was also (at the time) the coach to Florence Griffith. Florence Griffith ended up dating and marrying Al Joyner. Al Joyner is the brother of Jackie Joyner-Kersee. Jackie Joyner-Kersee would be the future wife to Bob Kersee. Full circle.
she obviously changed her hair style. same face with different hair. 88 long 84 short. vioce?? almost same voice... but the voice of ppl, changes through the years... pick anyone younger and older... his/her voice changes before and after. some more some less...
It's a moral issue: Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here. She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in. A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner: “I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.” Only those who have nothing to hide say so. Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record. Period. There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years. FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP. Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers. After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy." The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts. Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on." I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping. Believe what you want. DYOR Do you have any more questions?
Wow... Thanks for this! After all these years, I had assumed he and Flo Jo were the parents to that boy. I guess he fathered him with another woman and not Flo Jo. This left me confused for many years after seeing this in 1980s and following her death. Funny seeing those old 1970s and 80s cars LOL
being cardiovascularly fit and at your highest training level and being confident change the way you speak. Winning medals changes the way you see your sport/work and approach; it also suddenly changes the way people seek you out. Managing all that psychologically is going to result in growth in a person. We can't take that as evidence of steroid use.
flo jo voice in 1984 comparing to flo jo voice in 1988 is a world apart. in 1984 she sounds like a woman. in 1988 she sounds like a man, or sounds like a woman that has been smoking 2 packs of cigarettes for 30 years.
@@lalib.53 evidence? use your ears and listen to her in 1984 and compare that to her voice in 1988. it's night and day. 1984 she sounds like a woman in 1988 she sounds like a man or a tranny.
No she wasn't. Stop it. That testosterone changed the timbre and tone of her voice, her body composition, she was wearing a ton of makeup to conceal the acne and body hair. Hell, the outfits were likely part of the concealment as well.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 her body composition wasn't anything that she could not achieve with work out at the gym. You can go to any local gym and watch hundred of girls with more muscles than Flo Jo 88' she doesn't looks like Sylvester Stallone... no way, and the other runners who ran with her, sure they do. she changed her hair style (I thought it was obvious) 84 short. 88 long Bingo!!!
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 I think she had HGH, extra testosterone (legal limit for women) and whatever else could cause her to start having seizures despite the birth defect...a lot of people have that same defect and never have seizures. she messed up her vascular system and her brain's electrical system started going haywire after retirement and detoxing.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 non black ppl especially just can’t accept the fact that black ppl are indeed great even when we put forth hard work. Y’all are sick. It won’t change her legacy tho.
Sports Illustrated Feb 2020: Sports Illustrated's Frank Deford even felt a tint of suspicion while covering the 1988 Olympic Games. "In 1988, at the Seoul Olympics, I saw a side-by-side video of Flo-Jo from 1984 and that present time," he said on NPR in 2013. "She looked and sounded like a different person. The comparison was so shocking that the producer told me he feared it would be an ugly bombshell back in the USA, if such incriminating evidence were shown about an American heroine. So NBC shelved the tape."
Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here. She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in. A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner: “I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.” Only those who have nothing to hide say so. Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record. Period. There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years. FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP. Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers. After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy." The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts. Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on." I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping. Believe what you want. DYOR Do you have any more questions?
Florence, had a very distinct voice, her voice sounds exactly the same as it always has I competed against her in the 80s and there was no difference in her voice.
Yes she did,,, and that is what changed her entire career,,, in 1987 switched coaches from Bobby Kersey to Al Joyner.. switched philosophies and the rest is history... That is exactly what happened
Joyner was a dirty drug cheat who got away with it, had a muscular body. She wasn’t that good earlier in her career. Then suddenly obliterated the times and her opponent’s. You have to be seriously stupid to think those ludicrous times were drug free. NO CHANCE!!!!! She retired when she heard they were doing random drug tests, she disappeared.
Your claims are ridiculous. You have no evidence, you are just throwing words around irresponsibly. If you know any evidence of fraud, bring it up, because you can't prove anything with lying words. The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts.
Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here. She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in. A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner: “I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.” Only those who have nothing to hide say so. Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record. Period. There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years. FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP. Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers. After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy." The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts. Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on." I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping. Believe what you want. DYOR Do you have any more questions?
Carl Lewis, the winner of 9 Olympic gold medals wrote: ``She made the transformation from being just another Olympian to one of the most incredible athletes in the world, a change too quick for the imagination. Then there was her voice, much deeper than it had been.''
It's a moral issue: Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here. She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in. A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner: “I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.” Only those who have nothing to hide say so. Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record. Period. There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years. FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP. Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers. After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy." The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts. Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit. Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on." I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping. Believe what you want. DYOR Do you have any more questions?
Carl Lewis, the winner of 9 Olympic gold medals wrote: ``She made the transformation from being just another Olympian to one of the most incredible athletes in the world, a change too quick for the imagination. Then there was her voice, much deeper than it had been.''
Exactly. Her face also changed, and she grew a mustache
It's a moral issue: Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here.
She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in.
A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner:
“I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.”
Only those who have nothing to hide say so.
Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record👍
There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years.
FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP❤
Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers.
After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy."
The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
And then come to find out later Carl was using banned substances, too....they all were. Nobody was clean in 1988.
Exactly
One of the most beautiful women ever
Then Bob Kersee was the coach of Greg Foster.
Greg Foster was the then boyfriend of Florence Griffith.
Bob Kersee was also (at the time) the coach to Florence Griffith.
Florence Griffith ended up dating and marrying Al Joyner.
Al Joyner is the brother of Jackie Joyner-Kersee.
Jackie Joyner-Kersee would be the future wife to Bob Kersee.
Full circle.
Greg was a complete idiot for creeping around on her and BOOM she left him for Al.
Flo Jo in 1984 was totally different to Flo Jo 1988. .
her voice changed and her face changed
A (literally) unbelievable transformation. Face and body structure totally different, voice several octaves lower, moustache. Seems legit!
she obviously changed her hair style.
same face with different hair.
88 long
84 short.
vioce?? almost same voice...
but the voice of ppl, changes through the years...
pick anyone younger and older...
his/her voice changes before and after. some more some less...
One thing is sure. no substance can make your face change
@@FlabbyTitmuss
her face didn't change.
she changed her hair. are you blind?
I think they said that he was cheating on Flo Jo. Al Joyner swooped in and married this goddess.
Evidence?👀
It's a moral issue: Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here.
She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in.
A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner:
“I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.”
Only those who have nothing to hide say so.
Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record.
Period.
There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years.
FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP.
Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers.
After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy."
The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on."
I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping.
Believe what you want.
DYOR
Do you have any more questions?
all 3 were fantastic athletes
Wow... Thanks for this! After all these years, I had assumed he and Flo Jo were the parents to that boy. I guess he fathered him with another woman and not Flo Jo. This left me confused for many years after seeing this in 1980s and following her death. Funny seeing those old 1970s and 80s cars LOL
being cardiovascularly fit and at your highest training level and being confident change the way you speak. Winning medals changes the way you see your sport/work and approach; it also suddenly changes the way people seek you out. Managing all that psychologically is going to result in growth in a person. We can't take that as evidence of steroid use.
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Deep masculine voice....
Background music low key sound like al jareau
flo jo voice in 1984 comparing to flo jo voice in 1988 is a world apart. in 1984 she sounds like a woman. in 1988 she sounds like a man, or sounds like a woman that has been smoking 2 packs of cigarettes for 30 years.
thank you! Her face also changed. Her chin got longer in '88. Sign of drug use. It's called GH Jaw
@@smoothnubian yes HGH (human growth hormone) will cause acromegaly (bone growth in the face, hand, and feet) in adults.
@@minavamp2811 YES. did you ever see her hands? Her fingers looked rather large.
@@minavamp2811Evidence?🤔
@@lalib.53 evidence? use your ears and listen to her in 1984 and compare that to her voice in 1988. it's night and day. 1984 she sounds like a woman in 1988 she sounds like a man or a tranny.
Flo Jo in 1984 was remarkably similar to Flo Jo 1988.
No she wasn't. Stop it. That testosterone changed the timbre and tone of her voice, her body composition, she was wearing a ton of makeup to conceal the acne and body hair. Hell, the outfits were likely part of the concealment as well.
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her body composition wasn't anything that she could not achieve with work out at the gym.
You can go to any local gym and watch hundred of girls with more muscles than Flo Jo 88'
she doesn't looks like Sylvester Stallone... no way, and the other runners who ran with her, sure they do.
she changed her hair style (I thought it was obvious) 84 short. 88 long Bingo!!!
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 I think she had HGH, extra testosterone (legal limit for women) and whatever else could cause her to start having seizures despite the birth defect...a lot of people have that same defect and never have seizures. she messed up her vascular system and her brain's electrical system started going haywire after retirement and detoxing.
Totally different. Her jaw line, her voice tone, her whole face seemed bigger. More masculine?? Complete transformation
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 non black ppl especially just can’t accept the fact that black ppl are indeed great even when we put forth hard work. Y’all are sick. It won’t change her legacy tho.
Sports Illustrated Feb 2020:
Sports Illustrated's Frank Deford even felt a tint of suspicion while covering the 1988 Olympic Games.
"In 1988, at the Seoul Olympics, I saw a side-by-side video of Flo-Jo from 1984 and that present time," he said on NPR in 2013. "She looked and sounded like a different person. The comparison was so shocking that the producer told me he feared it would be an ugly bombshell back in the USA, if such incriminating evidence were shown about an American heroine. So NBC shelved the tape."
Samples are kept long enough to be retested. She never failed a drugs test.
Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here.
She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in.
A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner:
“I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.”
Only those who have nothing to hide say so.
Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record.
Period.
There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years.
FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP.
Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers.
After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy."
The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on."
I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping.
Believe what you want.
DYOR
Do you have any more questions?
@@hikidunm1582 they did not do the random tests between events then. Those started 1989 and Flo retired at the moment.
@@lalib.53 1984 she talked like a woman. 1988 she talked like a trans.
Florence, had a very distinct voice, her voice sounds exactly the same as it always has I competed against her in the 80s and there was no difference in her voice.
I couldn't tell a difference at all, either. Sounds exactly the same.
I wonder if she dumped Foster for Al. J?
Yes she did,,, and that is what changed her entire career,,, in 1987 switched coaches from Bobby Kersey to Al Joyner.. switched philosophies and the rest is history... That is exactly what happened
Joyner was a dirty drug cheat who got away with it, had a muscular body. She wasn’t that good earlier in her career. Then suddenly obliterated the times and her opponent’s. You have to be seriously stupid to think those ludicrous times were drug free. NO CHANCE!!!!! She retired when she heard they were doing random drug tests, she disappeared.
Your claims are ridiculous. You have no evidence, you are just throwing words around irresponsibly. If you know any evidence of fraud, bring it up, because you can't prove anything with lying words. The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts.
Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here.
She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in.
A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner:
“I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.”
Only those who have nothing to hide say so.
Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record.
Period.
There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years.
FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP.
Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers.
After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy."
The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on."
I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping.
Believe what you want.
DYOR
Do you have any more questions?
For folks who say FloJo’s voice got really deep and is a sign of doping…ummm, see, same voice!
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No class Greg Foster!! After he finished second in 84, he barely acknowledged the winner!!
The winner was Roger Kingdom
Well...really
Flo is .......dope?
you are … stupid?
DOPE......in a good way??????
Carl Lewis, the winner of 9 Olympic gold medals wrote: ``She made the transformation from being just another Olympian to one of the most incredible athletes in the world, a change too quick for the imagination. Then there was her voice, much deeper than it had been.''
@@rhonnesanelms8969Evidence?👀
It's a moral issue: Flo Jo achieved her results through hard training. She didn't need doping. That's the point here.
She changed coaches, she and her husband developed new training methods, which brought the long-awaited success, in addition to the work put in.
A statement from FloJo and her husband, Al Joyner:
“I know exactly what people say about me,” she said. "And that's just not true." I don't need to use drugs. If they want, they can come for testing every week of the year. I have nothing to hide." Her husband says all the talk boils down to jealousy. He said his wife's astonishing gains are the result of being "trained as a man." He added: “We bought a $150 leg exerciser and she did leg rolls every night. Over 20 pounds every night to add strength to your legs. She worked 12 hours a day.”
Only those who have nothing to hide say so.
Do 12 hours of leg training a day for months and you'll set the world record.
Period.
There are interviews with her from 1984 where her voice is exactly the same. She always had a deep voice.Her voice is also deep in the training video made in 1994, even though she hasn't competed in years.
FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP.
Florence Griffith Joyner retires from the field On February 22, 1989, five months after the Seoul Olympic Games, Griffith Joyner announced her retirement from track and field. When discussing her retirement with Liguori, Griffith Joyner said: "I retired in 1989 because I could no longer train at 100%, the way I used to train. If I can't give it my all, I don't want to give it at all." Griffith Joyner moved on with her life. She became a mother, pursued fashion design and continued to combine sports and style. She even designed the 1990 NBA uniforms for the Indiana Pacers.
After the death of Florence Griffith Joyner, doping allegations against her intensified. Many believed that illegal performance enhancers may have contributed to her death. However, after the autopsy, Dr. Richard Fukumoto, forensic medicine expert, clearly stated that no changes caused by steroids or other doping agents could be detected in her body. "This report allows Florence Griffith Joyner to rest in peace," said Primo Nebiolo, then president of the International Association of Athletics Federations. “Her family has had to endure incredible media attacks, many trying to undermine her legacy without any real evidence. This campaign harmed the entire sport and the anti-doping campaign. I expect more responsible behavior from media representatives in the future. I hope that after this, many members of the athletic world will assure the family of their love and sympathy."
The 100m and 200m world record holder is FloJo, these are the facts.
Facts are stubborn things. "FloJo was juicing". These are just assumptions. The truth is, no one has ever proven these allegations. So FloJo's world records are and will remain official. I don't see anyone who can topple them. FloJo achieved her results with the perfect harmony of body, soul and spirit.
Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Florence Griffith Joyner's style and speed brought her international fame, but her Olympic performance was clouded by skepticism. A year after the Games, in 1989, a former American athlete named Darrell Robinson told a European magazine that Griffith Joyner had given her money to buy growth hormones. Griffith Joyner denied the allegations, telling the New York Times, "It's all made up lies about drugs. I'd be crazy to do drugs." In 1998, sports commentator John Feinstein said on NPR's Morning Edition, "The rumors were in Seoul in 1988, and I think the first thing to note is that he never tested positive," he said. "But she became a star late. She was 28 at the time... These rumors will always be there and she's been asked about them throughout her career, which she's always denied." The International Olympic Committee's medical board says it conducted rigorous drug testing on Griffith Joyner during the 1988 Olympics - and it always came back negative. Griffith Joyner spoke to journalist Ann Liguori about the allegations in 1991: "I knew I had never taken drugs, so I didn't let it bother me when people said that. I knew it was something that was in the news," she said. "People were looking for personal things to point at the athletes. Try not to buy it and just focus on what needs to be done and move on."
I know it's hard to accept the fact that FloJo is the best in the world, pure. No one has ever proven that it is muddy. That being said, I understand that you are suffering and trying to smear FloJo's memory, but that only qualifies you. Your baseless accusations are just trying to reassure me, I am calm because I know the truth about FloJo's purity. So you can say anything until you prove that your words are empty. . She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. I'm sorry you can't understand that there are people in our world who can create admirable acts without any doping.
Believe what you want.
DYOR
Do you have any more questions?
did she had nose cirugys?? or that's her born nose??
Her voice is so much higher pitched in this 1984 interview in comparison to her 1988 interviews!!! Flo Jo must of been on steroids in 1988!!!
Nope, it's not that much different at all . Besides that this one she's relaxed and not running, the other is right after a race.
@@rimetime6423 maybe... her voice is pretty deep in this one too ua-cam.com/video/8qfGsA1OEVA/v-deo.html
I was just thinking the exact same thing
That's what I came here to see..lol
You cats reaching. Voice police. Smh. Just looking and hoping she was doping