TYPE-15 China's New Light Tank
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- The Type-15 light weight tank could be used to quell growing internal domestic problems in China as well. In July 2022 there were reports that China had deployed PLA army tanks including the Type-15 against their own people to prevent their citizens from withdrawing their life savings from their banks.
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Written by: Chris Cappy and Justin Taylor
Edited by: Michael M
Associate Producer: Andrew Tucker
The reason it seemed plausible was because since April this year there have been four major banks in China’s Henan Province that have frozen 1.5 billion dollars and lost hundreds of thousands of people's life savings. Now people are beginning to defy their government and are refusing to repay loans on apartments that they purchased that were never completed. Social credit score be damned! One reason this might be happening is fraud or because of bad real estate investments made by the banks. If China’s real estate bubble pops it could hurt the world economy.
This video of PLA tanks on the streets looking like they were deployed against their own people was shared over 50 thousand times on twitter and appeared to show the Type-15 tank intimidating people and stopping them from reaching their bank. And it’s true the Type-15 light tank would be perfect for this kind of riot control mission as a quick reaction force for emergency situations.
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Thanks for watching guys , what do you think of the Type-15? Is the United States copying China with their new Light Tank?
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Hey Cappy you do a lot if videos about different vehicles and weapons but is there a possible video in the future focusing primarily on infantry? Thanks
i thought a vehicle capable of withstanding a 50 cal tops is called an apc, when armed then it's a ifv, but this one has no auxillary crew.. or maybe they travel on top, like russians?
vs civilians, great
vs Taiwaneese, sucks bottom and full of holes
that nintendo pistol brings back a lot of fond childhood memories. I'll never forget my asian friends playing Duck Hunt. they all shot the dog multiple times & wondered why the game never registered any hits. ofc they became even more enraged when the doggo covers it's face with one paw & starts snickering
You know these tanks will fall apart to javs
Since the tank came out in 2017, yup the United States copied it. Which is OK because it’s probably better than any thin skin IFV where MBT can’t go to. Hell, it probably can be equipped with a mine flail for mines and IEDs.
Actual PLA tanker here. I serve on a ZTZ-99A. The video is mostly correct and ZTQ-15, I think, is a welcome addition to our force. There are a few caveats though
1- The said tanks on street were not for suppressing a protest. Henan is quite far away from there. You can see people taking photos in the photo. When the party wants to suppress a protest it usually doesn't crack down on the protest itself.
2- It is true that the ZTQ-15 lacks composite armor on most of its surfaces. But it is not rated for 12.7 mm. It is still harder than any IFV as you would expect from a vehicle of the said weight (35-37 tons) and internal volume. Otherwise, its existence wouldn't make any sense. Its purpose is bringing a 105 mm gun to the battlefield and being immune to anything less than an anti-tank weapon.
3- It has a bustle autoloader not carousel. All of its ammo and the autoloader are stored at the blow-off compartment.
Note: There is actually more than one ZTZ-99A model. There are differences between the batches and older ones get renewed but I won't elaborate on that. It doesn't have anything to do with the topic and I am not sure how sensitive the topic is.
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Me when I lie:
@@biteof78 having a bustle autoloader is publicly known lol
@@bigmanrobert3610 not even the point lol
Sorry, but anything you say living in China of a remotely political nature can't be believed as it's said under duress.
This tank looks to be designed to counter India in Himalayas more than supporting the first wave of offensive against Taiwan
Wouldn't stand a chance in the valleys. Still far to heavy and wide for some the passes. Mountains are won and held with artillery supported by infantry. A tank is just a bullet trap in the mountains.
Yup, but it’s also a useful scout tank or an IFV escort that is not deployed at a mountain area.
@@ilovedetails Probably which is why it’s fast, probably want to rush at Indian defences before their arty can zero in.
We have T-72s and now T-90s stationed in Ladakh near Depsang plains where a Tank battle is most likely plausible. Plus we are going to get 2S25 sprut SD self propelled gun and L&T 105mm Medium tank which will be having the same bustle autoloader system like it's ZT-15 counterpart.
@@ilovedetails coming from a very mountainous region myself, I understand your point
To clear up a bit of confusion around this tank:
Yes, it does have an oxygen generator, but it's not for the engine. The engine is an electrically assisted turbocharged diesel to prevent turbo lag and adjust for changes in altitude. The oxygen generator uses lithium hydroxide in a chemical reaction (like the rescue masks in airplanes that drop down) to generate pure oxygen so the crew doesn't suffer from hypoxia at altitude. Remember these tanks are intended in part to operate on the Tibetan Plateau and Himalayas. Crews passing out from hypoxia would be a mission kill without firing a shot.
I'm too lazy to do the numbers, but I doubt that the tank could carry enough LiOH to be useful.
I am impressed they have a 900 hp diesel that they are confident will perform in battle at those altitudes.
@@Adiscretefirm its light and it makes that hp at altitude
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br I said I was impressed, what more do you want?
@@Adiscretefirm well, China’s Diesel engine is quite advance and achieved very high heat coefficient, but wouldn’t say so about their durability though.
A couple things that are worth mentioning in a feedback:
1. The ZTQ-15 is suitable not only for Taiwan & the Sino-Indian border, but all of the PRC's southern frontier, which is composed entirely of either mountainous (e.g. Himalayas) or hilly jungle (e.g. Yunnan) terrain. Moreover, North Korea also has heavily mountainous/hilly terrain. In other words, all of the PRC's likely potential conflict zones, along with roughly half of China's border frontiers need light tanks more than traditional MBTs. With the prospect of conflict vs Russia negligible at this point, the PLA's focus on light tanks is a no-brainer. An introductory overview of the PRC's current potential conflict zones & geography would've been far more informative to setup the rest of this video, rather than deviating into seemingly obligatory cope on Gordon Chang-style "predictions" about "impending Chinese economic collapse";
2. The overwhelming majority of Taiwan's tanks are not M1s, but largely outdated M-60 variants, which the ZTQ-15 can handle in a TW scenario;
3. According to Tradoc's official site & the Army Recognition website, ZTQ-15 can also use 105mm APFSDS rounds, although may not be as effective as a larger 125mm smoothbore variant. It appears there was some ambiguity in the wording of this video that could've been interpreted otherwise;
4. While ZTQ-15 has been seen operating with companion drones, it currently doesn't appear to have a dedicated docking station mounted on the turret for drones. That could be a useful feature to experiment in future variants of this model.
the hilly jungle of yunnan & guangxi really poke at a certain country...
...well i wont beat around the bush anymore, have to inform my countrymen about this
holy crap
12:26
it really hits home
don't forget South East Asia. heavier tanks limited the amphibious landing options.
@@khairulhelmihashim2510 Meanwhile Singapore has gone for ~100x full-sized Leopard 2 MBTs which is 20t too heavy for most of our road bridges. A possible theory is that they're intended mainly for counter-attack in response to a theoretical attack by neighbouring bigger Malaysia (via the Causeway), to gain & maneuver in the greater land area it has (where more conventional warfare that MBTs are intended for could be used) that other defensive assets could occupy & get more breathing room from
Taiwan/ROC is planning to buy M1 tanks but the USA might baulk that they're outdated for the more asymmetrical warfare that it's expected to face
Back in WW2, the British were fighting the Japanese in the jungles of Burma. The Biggest tank they could get down tight & steep jungle mountain roads was the 30 ton Grant tank. Their 75mm gun gave the Brits the edge over the Japanese, in the battle of Admin box. I bet there are still many parts of the World, with weak bridges, twisty mountain roads & narrow urban streets, where you cannot use a tank of more than 30 or so tons.
whats interesting is when the M3 was developed, it was a medium tank, or even a moderately heavy tank
that is exactly why Japan built the Type 16 MCV. Japan being pretty mountainous has lots of bridges that can support heavy vehicles but a small(ish) wheeled vehicle with a 105 gun could easily move across them and support troops
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You don't need a light tank to quell a rebellion. You just need some officers to put a knee to the neck of protestors.
RIP George Floyd
@@Gubers Depends. Sending a column along a road, without air recon first, is unwise. However, if you send a mixed force with air overwatch, then the risk switches to the ambushers.
Great video!
But it doesn't "produce oxygen"; it compresses the air, making it denser like air at sea-level. It's a supercharger, pretty common piece of tech on aircraft, and some high performance cars, but I think this might be the first tank to use one.
t 72m1 had supercharger
@@pepelajuandeag1696 they sold it for vodka
The hospitals are full of machines that extract oxygen from the ambient air. They are used for patients with emphysema etc. The older such units used limiting oxygen bottles for enhanced breathing.
@@kukulroukul4698 hence why he said "had" :D
Oh man that was a giggle to hear a supercharger be described like that xD
Weight is one of the primary reasons the M4 Sherman tank was deemed adequate in early WWII. Unlike the Soviets and Germans American made tanks had to be transported cross country by trains and across the ocean to Europe by ship. Size was a major factor followed closely by reliability. No depot sized maintenance facilities for the M4. The gun and armor were secondary considerations.
*Shermans did NOT have to be capable of deflecting SwitchBlades, Javelins, Rafael Spikes and all the rest*
Modern tanks do.
China's 'Slack Panthers' are going to need hellishly good ERA because the hull armour is beyond *Light*
Where is China getting all the chips it needs for these things anyway?
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This tank’s engine is specially designed for high altitude which lack of oxygen. It has turbo for the turbo. It means it got four turbos. T72 or T90 will face significant power drop. Sometimes won’t even start. It’s not simply put a high power engine in a light tank. The engine is carefully designed for high altitude. It doesn’t matter it’s 1500hp or 500hp without special design you won’t work properly at 4000 or 5000m altitude.
What good is a tank on a mountain when aircraft and apaches are hunting tanks? Seems like a waste of resources. But hey, what do I know.
@@mattipps could be for positioning tanks before apaches come in and attack? I don’t know too
@@evagineer9165 so your plan is to drive a tank to the top of a mountain, wait for helicopters with laser designated missiles to see you, and then shoot them down with a tank round? 😉 brilliant.
@@mattipps absolutely, so I can never see the horrors of 4chan ever again, man they are horrible
@@mirandela777 that's why we use planes bud.
When you jump across the wall just to learn more about your domestic light tank from an American infantryman 😆
XD same here
Lol
个人觉得墙其实有点必要，不过我在国内也喜欢这样
@@yiyangqin4527 I don't care if the great wall is necessary or not. It's really cool, and that's what matters.
@@yiyangqin4527 nah
One of the main reasons for this tank is that China's average soldier has grown taller and wider over the past two decades, leading to cramped tanks and other equipment problems. They simply don’t fit in old Soviet designed tanks anymore. Almost a decade ago The PLA started measuring troops on 28 different metrics to figure out how to redesign military equipment for the now-larger force. This is kind of the reason they needed a bigger small tank.
Sounds kinda red tapey. 28 different metrics.. or put a short guy in the turret and ask him "Stuffy? Yes or no?'
I love this idea and it's probably true as there economy has developed considerably and along with that their standard nutrition. I feel like this is one of those things that a lot of casual people don't tend to think about when looking at a force that would actually have a large impact on capability.
If those were Soviet designed, weren't Russians tall and broad 🤔
:)) gezz
Thats why Russian tankers were restricted to 5'9"
17:30
Fun fact, since the Chinese word "bao" doesn't distinguish between panthers and leopards, the name "hei(black) bao" really means just panther(distinguished from leopards), not necessarily black panther.
The scene with the two Canadian Leopard 2's was in Gagetown... that place has swamps on top, on the side and at the bottom of hills. If your tank gets stuck there it will probably take a few hours to extract.
Great write up on the PLA's new light tank. Cheers!
Cappy at this point has more info on Chinese military than Taiwan government.
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No kidding, the Taiwan government is pretty delusional. Why does their conscripts serve only 4 months for their service.
@@Alex-pj8nz because they cant afford to maintain the force, they choose to train all for basics and then deploy them when necessary by giving a faster refresher course
@@Alex-pj8nz Because people don't want to serve longer? Same reason most of the world has zero months of conscription.
Blame it on War Thunder.
Great writeup Chris and Justin. This is a lot of legwork to compile this much info on the Type-15. A bit of clarification on the rifled gun, it can indeed fire Sabot rounds. An example of this is the M900 APFSDS-T. The Type-15 is also not quite air-droppable, but uses something similar to the Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System (LAPES) that hucked a Sheridan out the back of a C-130.
Yeah I tried finding footage of that specifically with the type 15 but couldn’t find any. It probably would have helped clarified what we meant.
An urgent warning to Aus...
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This tank is not air dropable in any form,the 105 mm missiles are capable of over 700mm rhea penetrating power.
@@jeffreyprezalar220 Do you know if it’s tandem charge like the newer Russian 100mm missiles are?
@@tim4570 based off the same tech just different dimensions. The 105mm is the base gun for most light tanks in china and fire support afv but yet they have over a thousand vn4 and vn4a afv with the bmp 3 style turrets with the 100mm 2a70 low pressure gun that use 9117 bastion missiles.
Editing on this was great. The effort is appreciated.
Most informative, thank you!
This seems like a wild oversimplification, but it almost gives me the vibes of a Sherman tank in WWII... Light, fast, easy on fuel, with the ability to get large numbers on the battlefield.
That is exactly what i was thinking. The rifled gun could come in very handy to for infantry support. HESH for giving enemy infantry a very bad day and concrete training rounds for wall breaching. I bet they're cheap aswell, and easy to mass produce.
Yup.
Ironically the Sherman 105 actually had better armor that could stop at 30 cannon at all but very close range and not at all against the jumbo
100% agreed.... These are not for a Island invasion, these are for mass deployment in large numbers in urban/forest/mountain/plains environments. India being in the crosshairs as well as other Asian countries attached to the continent.
The Japanese had a better light tank(technically just a light artillery gun in a mobile armour chassis) that could according to British and USA troops who saw it in action during ww2 could go up and down the tropical rainforest mountains of South East Asia like nothing while the Sherman was to heavy and slow in that terrain, tho because it's gun was small (good enough for pill boxes and infantry and armoured cars) and it was also way to lightly armoured (great for rifle and smaller arms) to take on a Sherman, the USA troops had praise for its speed and movability on types of terrains a Sherman would pray for help form God, it wasn't made for tank duels and Sherman's could just sit still and have a nice targeting/range day.
Remember this tank doesn't have to beat M-1s. It has to beat Marines and Paratroopers and be rapidly transportable by their C-17 copy. There it checks the block.
who ?! NO WAY !
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It will also be able to support infantry in areas where M1's can't operate and instead only has to beat other light vehicles that are also there to support infantry, not fight tanks.
@@t2force212 Most of which have autocannons greater than .50 caliber and a much higher rate of fire that'll chew this thing to shreds. Due to the higher rate of fire, they don't need to use their laser range finders to range, they can afford to walk shots on target so this light tank would never know it was getting shot at. Because of its lack of armor, this tank is also vulnerable to old recoilless rifles which India still uses in small numbers. Basically, everything that an IFV is vulnerable, this thing is to but doesn't have the rate of fire to make up for it.
Up until it meets the javilen that they are using
Great review mate, thank you very much 🙏
4:15 How did a military parade became "protect the bank"? These two events are seperated by half a country and 3 month of time, and somehow suspiciously connected by a bunch of random medias?
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It would be a mistake to underestimate the chinese. The same ways the germans underestimated the soviets, or the russians underestimated the ukrainians
Literally nobody is doing that.
You could say the same exact thing about the free country of Taiwan.
The real danger is China doesn't know about its own military. Russia's disaster in Ukraine was the result of it thinking it was the second most power military on Earth.
You went to public school didn’t you
@@shikharashish4839 Literally a lot of people are doing that
No Chris . the ZT-15 has a belt based Bustle autoloader , similar to that of
1)Type 90 MBT of Japan
2) Type 10Next gen MBT of Japan
3)AMX Leclerc of France
4) K-2 Black Panther of South Korea
They seen to have reverse engineered the Semi autoloader similar to a 2S1 Gvozdika (probably from the PLZ 89 ) and used it with the belt based Bustle autoloader instead of a carousel one. Plus Ukraine actually offered India a similar bustle autoloader technology for its Arjun Mk1 and Mk1 M /Mk 2 MBT.
@@jack99889988 I know ,that's why I told based on it ,not entirely a copy . And Ukraine did propose a bustle autoloader technology to Indian govt for their Arjun Mk1 and Mk2 .
@@jack99889988 you just did Not understand what he was saying lol
Tanks for the great video. 👍
As always - production value is top-notch!
Love the edits! Super cool how you edited yourself in the cockpit of that Chinese plane and on top of the tanks 😆 I know I know, I should focus on all the insane amounts of details and research he puts in these instead of the silly edits, but still. Little things that make these fun! Keep up the great work yo!
The amount of work you put in those, great job sir!
Hey Chris, a huge fan of your analysis pieces. I was just wondering if you can do a short analyzing the wearable gear of the Ukrainian army. With major gear supplies coming from at least a dozen countries, I was curious about what the majority (or at least the biggest portion) of the Ukrainian army actually wears on the frontlines. Once again, thats for the content
As always, great video!! Love your great sense of humor while providing in depth researched information! Respectfully, Real TC C-33 3rd Battalion 63rd Armored Brigade 1st ID
A full fledged 50-60 ton MBT's compressor might struggle a bit at higher altitudes under all the weight and light tanks are mostly employed for infantry support anyways. There's that but I also think due to the growing prevelance of APS systems that can swat large salves of at weapons and some that can now shoot down full fledged armor piercing sabots like Iron Fist it's looking increasing like heavy composite armor is a risk of being rendered obsolete.
Dude, I love it when you embed yourself in a still image. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for a good & informative video👍
Came here to say I just adore your silly animations, they've been getting more creative too
Germany also revealed a light-tank like configuration for the Lynx IFV, pairing it with a 120 mm smoothbore. It seems armor isn't dead on the battlefield, but it is evolving.
Germany, France and USA to name few are also making new MBTs by 2030. Poland is buying about 1000 K2PL tanks and Greece just decided to upgrade hundreds of their Leopard 2A4s into 2A7 standard.
Tanks are not gone by a long shot regardless of how much public might think they are.
@@esanahka9284 Polish Leopard 2PL is 58,8 tonnes. The PT-91 Twardy - less than 46 t. The K2PL will not be light but it won't get over 60 t.
BTW. If you guys wonder what the quietly and slowly modernized PT-91 is worth, it is equipped similar way this Type 15 is. APS, two thermal cameras, passive IR, GPS, and Battle Management System on display such as used in Polish AMV Patria (KTO Rosomak.)
The new capable light thing will be AS21 heavy IFV with a 40mm or 50mm autocannon.
Light tanks might not survive against modern ATGMs. A missile carrier IFV with an autocannon might be a better choice for light armor.
It's dead. No one has ever waged a large scale armor battle.
@@fallinginthed33p MBTs aren surviving ATGMs now, these New ATGMs are something else.
Taiwanese generals while watching Cappy: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWM
On one hand it can be airdropped.
On the other hand Patriot exists.
@@davidty2006 Patriots will no longer exist when the Y-20s start droping these.
Excellent video, so well researched.
Loved the editing on this video! Especially XD 6:30-7:00
A lot of people will hurl criticism to China's equipment. But it's definitely not absolute crap quality and is still getting better.
only a matter of time till we find out
Love your videos learn so much and get a good laugh here and there wish you could have more out more often(videos) I do understand it takes time and people have lives but I'm selfish and enjoy them so send it!!!
Awesome! Thanks for addressing air drops are not so hot of an idea. You ROCK.
Thanks Cappy, that was really interesting.
Bangladesh 🇧🇩 also bought VT-5 version of Chinese tank. ♥️
Made it under 5 minutes, love what your doing cappy.
Ground pressure is also very relevant in the heavy equipment world, that’s why you’ll see dozers and excavators with LGP on the side- low ground pressure. This is also referred to as flotation
Love it. Keep it coming
Misinfo: the tank footage in Henan was not taken during the same period of time when bank froze account withdrawals
你以为它们会真不知道？
春秋笔法嘛，这唐氏不是第一次干了。
Hi Cappy another fantastic video. Keep them coming please.
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Thanks again Chris
I love your videos dude
Interesting that the Chinese Lights look like Mini Centurions, Makes sense considering how well the Centurion climbs Sand Dunes and Mountains.
Makes sense because of the sandy plains and mountainous terrain in areas disputed by China and India in the western Himalayas.
1. China doesn't have T-72s.
2. The Type-15 weighs 36 tons. The vehicle that weighs 33 tons is the VN-17 export IFV which shares the same hull as the Type-15 but has its engine placed in front.
3. The T-72 in its basic form weighs 38 tons. In fact, the majority of T-72s operated by China's neighbors who use them - India especially - are still in this config. That's only 2 tons heavier than the Type-15. The reason this thing even qualifies as a light tank is because the Type-96 weighs 42.8 tons.
4. The main purpose of the vehicle is mountain warfare, yes, but it's a different kind of solution from the old Type-62. The Type-15 achieves this purpose by having a 1,100 hp engine.
5. While we're on the subject, the Type-62 is derived from the T-34-85, not the Type-59. It ended up looking like the Type-59 because that's what the trend was at the time of its design. Also, the Type-59 isn't a Soviet tank. The Soviet original is the T-54.
6. The Type-15 is not airdroppable in combat configuration. It must be stripped down to 30 tons with all ammo and applique armor removed to be dropped, so this isn't a viable way to send it into combat.
7. There are literally multiple videos on YT showing clearly that this thing can't eject spent casing outside of the tank. It dumps them onto the turret floor. Also, why show the T-72 loading animation? You literally showed a clip of some grunt reloading this thing's BUSTLE AUTOLOADER.
8. The EFFECTIVE range of tank main guns firing APFSDS is 2km. This is the same for everyone because it's based on the accuracy of the targeting system. In the West there have been efforts to push this to 3km but the standard is still 2. The only time the max range matters is when firing HE shells as ad-hoc artillery. To be fair, this is still important for the PLA because they still have that capability burned into their doctrine.
Wait in which way is Type 62 derived from T-34-85?
@@neillathotep7386 Actually the concept of T-34-85 as a Medium tank deployed like shocktroopers as well as the Gun caliber (85mm) . The Gun in Type 62 Light Tank is based on on both the 85mm Tank gun as well as the 85mm Divisional gun D-44. Plus both are paper thin armored tanks lol XD.
it can stop armor piercing 50cal ? Thats HUGE ! but i doubt it
Wrong about the Indian T-72s. Most are in T-72 Ajeya Mk1 and Mk2 configuration. It would be rare to find a base model T-72 these days.
Great comments
Here on Brazil, where we still uses the Leopard 1A5 with 44 tons, there's a consideration of swap the actual turret with a 105mm cannon for a Hitfact mk2, which can equip an 120mm L/44 cannon, maintaning the original chassis and weight.
This is why I love modern light tanks. Kindof look like MBTs, but are super light.
one thing you messed up on is the Type 15 doesn't uses a carousel autoloader like on the T-72 and other derivatives. the autoloader is a caseate style autoloader in the bustle of the turret similar to the Japanese type 10 and Leclerc mbt. this is because the 105mm ammo is single piece not two piece so having a carousel autoloader with one piece ammo would make the turret ring incredibly wide.
Great video on the Type-15. It seems that there might be a re-emergence of the classic light-medium-heavy system of tanks with MBTs being akin to heavies and new light/medium tanks being developed to fill specific roles. It would be great to do a comparison video of the Type-15 and the new U.S. light tanks.
MBT was originally a medium sized tank combining the best characteristics of heavy (guns, armor) and light (mobility) tanks.
Great professional report !
The specification remind me a bit of the Leopard 1A5. 40t 105mm gun, speed and mobility, high gun angles... your thoughts?
9:26 it uses a bustle autoloader and has blow out panels like the leclerc
you forgot TYpe-90 Kyu Maru , Type 10 Next Gen MBT and K2 Black Panther that easy?
IIRC Taiwan’s MBT’s are M60 types. Which could be vulnerable to a 105mm anti-tank round
Taiwan probably doesn't need to rely heavily on its own tanks due to its small land coverage. So spending money on ATM is a better solution.
@@demoncore7275 It can't make as much in either area, that's why.
It would be really cool to get some of the sources you use to make these videos in the descriptions of future videos. I love this content and would like to read more in depth after watching your vids.
Very impressive analysis!
The passive detection system nearly made me choke on my soda pop I had a vision of a general and a colonel standing in front of a rank of several dozen T15, each of which is spewing flares and gouts of smoke. It is plainly an inspection and the General has a laser pointer in his hand...
"Even the US is developing a light tank after not operating any for the last 50 years."
The US M551 Sheridan would like a word with you...
Thats what he said, Sheridans are from the 50s, or 60s.
@@SuperChodot Its from 1967, so its actually more than 50 years
@@SuperChodot And were used by the airborne into the 90s.
@@yae_123 The actual statement was that the US hasn't had a light tank in service for 50 years. The mid-90s is NOT 50 years ago.
@@swaghauler8334 IC 😂
Interesting tank, good vid!
I knew it was coming as soon as you said "ingenious way" and yet i still laughed at the bouncing tank 🤣
A downside to its lighter armor is its increased vulnerability to artillery. 105’s and 155 are not traditionally viewed as tank killers, but if the armor specs are real coming in at only stoping a 50 bmg, it might be a good time to be an FO 😂
Honestly if the armor is that light. I'd be curious what standard 40mm or hand grenades would do to the tank.
@@mr.browning7.624 Taiwan's new Revolver drone dropping mortar rounds might be enough to kill it, especially if they have/develop a dedicated AT round for it.
@@nunyabusiness9433 I'll be honest I was unfamiliar with that until now, had to look it up. You're probably right. I bet that thing would be seriously effective against that light tank
F.O.s have become almost obsolete after the introduction of observer drones. Here's a link to the Azerbaijanis doing just that (bear in mind that some of the footage is of suicide drones and some from armed drones, as well as those drones acting as F.O.s for arty. You'll be able to tell which is which, though).
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Not really. MBT have paper thin side and rare armor, and there is fair chance is artillery shots will land anywhere around the tank. So better front armor won’t do much to save you.
France’s 1960s AMX-30 tank is a similar concept: greater tactical and strategic mobility at the cost of protection.
The idea was that a the time modern tank shell could defeat a 60t tank so making a smaller, more mobile 30-35t might be better. The idea was viable for a MBT until modern composite armor appeared.
Those were true light tanks. France also mastered the armored car concept that other countries ignored for some reason. It saved French lives in Africa in recent years. But these new light tank designs, even the French ones, to me don't to bring any unique capabilities versus something like an IFV with a 30-40mm cannon and AT missiles. The fighting in Ukraine has shown how auto cannons on even outdated vehicles are still beastly. And the IFV can take on many different roles like crew served drones, medevac, etc. And now the US wants a light tank? I guarantee you could do more with less with a modern fighting vehicle. The US wants an IFV that will ultimately have a 50mm ultra modern cannon with ultra modern munitions and they also want a light tank with a 150mm gun? Why? They already have the Stryker and the future is ATGMs and drones anyhow. Keep the Abrams, hold off on a new MBT design, field a new IFV, and put money into the future weapons systems that are playing a huge role in Ukraine. I'd definitely want more HiMARS than a new light tank.
Nowdays the logic is sort of "equal and opposite" of the 1960's. Light tanks still make a ton of sense, because taking out a heavy MBT is now the work of an infantry dude with a Javelin, or a drone attacking from the top. Loading your tank with anti-tank weapons is a waste of space because other stuff can handle that role with less risk these days because the MBT has so much of that modern composite armor that you just never want to go head-on against one with a gun.
@@guaposneeze And then active Protection systems and better ERA came along. The javelins are pretty lack lusher in Ukraine with a lot of whining about why Russian tanks are still moving like normal after one or two hits.
The Leopard 1 was designed to a similar doctrine and shares many common features with the AMX-30.
Served on a AMX13 ,they were integrated in a recon platoon with M113
and Lynx vehicles, impressive cannon 105 mm on the Dutch version, fast
but not amfibious like the rest of the platoon.
Light armour,petrol engine, weak clutch but good IR and aiming gear.
Couple of dozen were serving with artillery units for protection.
Superb report! Thanks!
Although I think aspects like the vulnerability of auto loader munition racks and the heightened risk of hand held ATGMs like the Carl Gustav and Javelin, all the lessons from Ukraine would now be cause for concern for PLA command.
The smoke pops when you laze at it 12:15, I would never wanna be infantry next to that tank
Shipping vehicles by sea is almost always limited by volume not mass. It doesn't matter whether a vehicle weighs 20 tons or 60 tons if you can only fit 20 of each and have 2000 tons available. Vehicle carrier's capacities are measured in square feet (or meters).
Shipping yes, but landing no...
When you said "Tiny Tank" in the title, I was expecting about the size of the British Scorpion/Scimitar tanks... where the crew have to be checked for size to see if they would fit in it...
Awww, Scorpion!!! 😍 So kewt! I keep telling my niece to get me one for Christmas. A 76mm gun that fires HESH rounds. A guy about 12 miles from here was selling one he had fixed up a few years ago. He rode it in local parades. He wanted $30,000. Umm, no. They are impossible to repair because the spaces are so tight.
i thought it was going to be like a german hetzer or something, this things looks pretty capable and not as small as the video would suggest
@@randyjackson7584 It's the size of a T34 or a Sherman. It's light only because heavy tanks got huge.
Rifled barrels are fine with APFSDS projectiles. That long Tungsten Carbide dart CAN be fin stabilized, but high-speed rotation does not adversely affect terminal performance.The classic HEAT shaped charge warheads work more efficiently from smooth bores HESH rounds don't seem to care about the barrel type because they work on a totally different principal; i.e., scorch the paint on the outside and rip off a saucer-sized "scab" from the inside and send it bouncing around the crew compartment at supersonic speed: MESSY! ( and there is no annoying armour penetration to patch up if the remains are recoverable).
Wide tracks are good for most places besides rocks. I don't see that aspect going well but 900 hp will shred something for sure. Excellent video as always keep it up!
Are the cannon shells still placed for semi-spontaneous combustion? If they are, they could make the tank even lighter by removing the overhead armor....since it doesn't stop modern anti-armor missiles.
The new Chinese "Cope Cages" will be modelled on the Beijing Olympic Stadium. Majestic!
Hey Chris .. Indian here .. what you said is true about the type 15 .. as per the interview given by Generals in Indian army . They seem to be worried about the ISR capability and the role this tank can perform in a low intensity conflict rather than full and broader Offensive role ..
Tank battle in Line of actual control can happen only in three places .. one is depsang plains , another one is spangur gap and third being demchok .. these are narrow to medium width mountain passes which enables armies to deploy armor and other motorized brigades .. now all three places are now manned by elite 1st strike corp of Indian army ( which has 4 divisions of combined arms and was facing Pakistan earlier ) and two independent t-72 tank brigades .. also includes Indo Tibetan Border police and Rastriya Rifles for other roles
Indian Army has a incorporated an locally developed engine for the T-72 Ajeya variant which uses a special fuel specially for mountainous terrain .. The ajeya variant was developed by incorporating polish twardy upgrade pack on t-72 and other Indian / Israeli sensors .. the gun used in Indian t-72 is from t-90 a variant to ensure commonality in ammunition like HESH , APSFDS , HEAT , Canon Launched ATGMs .. even you can see this in India China tank disengagement video where it’s the type 96 or type 99 vs t-72 in one of the passes in spangur gap .. China did deploy type 15 but soon Indian army reported all main Chinese MBTs were at the frontline
Regarding Indian light tank.. Korean Light tank is considered but it’s more likely india would choose a unmanned turret Next generation tank design to build a light tank and main battle tank on the same .. India drdo feels that based on their learning in Arjun MBT project .. they can successfully build at scale for Indian army
We are going for a lt based on k9 chasis as of now
@@hiteshadhikari made by our fav Larsen and Turbo ❤️
@@patriotenfield3276 l&t and drdo, l&t has all the ko thing set up, its a jv as of now btw l&t and drdo
Reasonable timeline too, although generals as always are unreasonable
If India waits on DRDO for their next gen light tank, they’ll be waiting 20 years. Probably better to just buy something off the shelf (like that K-21 Cappy was talking about).
@@mbaxter22 it depends on what the RFP and gsqr is
Realistic gsqr brings realistic products. Else imports havent done well either, when u have to constantly fix them everyday.
Eg t90 drama
Many of what the blogger said is wrong. The research and development of this tank is not for fuel economy, but for fighting on plateau and mountain areas. Many heavy tanks are deployed in places that cannot be reached. Because of its light weight, strong climbing ability and fast speed, this is the significance of the existence of 15 tanks.
a higher level of speed AND velocity? Wow, amazing!
During World War II, my dad was a driver of a M2A1 Stuart Light Tank, that had TWO V-8 Cadillac engines and a top speed of 45 MPH. It was used by the Seventh Armored Division, (and others, of course), as a Recon tank. Once, his tank got hit by German fire and had one of its tracks blown apart. Everyone jumped out and hoofed it towards the Front lines, carrying as much as they could, including, (for a while), the breech for their tiny 37mm cannon.
Side note: for some reason, at the start of the war, every single country that fielded tanks, had some fitted with a 37mm cannon.
Well, they got back to base, (or I wouldn't be here), and lived to tell the tale.
So, yeah, fast, light tanks are a good thing.
Interesting. I do believe it would have been an M5 Stuart, since that would match the details given. Don't blame you or him for the misidentification though. Memory is quite fickle tbh.
Just a side note though.
talking about your dad in wwIi, i can’t help but thinking about your age.
That's incorrect. Britain did not field a 37mm gun equipped tank, neither did the USSR.
@@hendi1571 Technically they did. The British Empire and USSR operated the Stuart, Lee, and Grant tanks, all with the 37mm gun. The British also operated the Locust tank, also armed with 37mm cannon.
Both also had weapons with similar performance to many of the high-velocity 37mm cannons. The 2-pdr and 45mm were very much in the same class and capability as the 37mm weapons, with many of the same strengths and importantly, limitations. All were considered small, easy to move by their crews, and requiring small vehicles to tow, but lacked the power to kill more heavily armored tanks at anything but suicidal distances and had a small HE round.
Only the Germans addressed the issue of lack of power with the Stielgranate 41, which is basically a large spigot-type HEAT rifle grenade. While very potent, it had very limited range and accuracy due to the low velocity.
It should be noted the Soviets had BT-2 armed with 37mm guns, but these were by WWII likely in reserve units.
@@classifiedad1 Stuart, Grant and Lee were not in service with the British and soviet Forces at the beginning of the war.
But I actually did not know about the BT-2's 37mm gun, thank you man
Type15's main gun is the Chinese L7 variant. L7 is still very widely used globally. Type15 can surely fire APFSDS (pretty common in other tanks with L7s) and ATGM munitions.
It is definitely a fact that MBTs are not optimized for high-altitude fights, especially on inaccessible terrain. But if you do not have light tanks, IFV with modified drive train (to better operate on high-altitude) and up-armoured with reactive armour are good stop-gap measure.
when it comes to snow alone, heavy weight can be a bonus, as it compacts the snow beneath the vehicle, a very heavy vehicle makes it as if the snow wasnt there at all, but a lighter vehicle will get "hung up" on the snow building up beneath the hull, and thereafter loose all traction.
Nice video! I would like to add that aside from India, China and USA that are investing on light tanks, countries in Southeast Asia are also having their own light tanks. Some examples are like Indonesia’s Harimau Medium Tank and Philippine’s Sabrah Light tank.
It’s kind of surprising that light tanks are starting to return in certain regions like South Asia, East Asia and South East Asia considering that MBTs are considered superior. But I guess that certain advantages of mobility such as ease of transportability and ability to go through more complex terrain brought light tanks back.
Singapore meanwhile has gone for the full-sized Leopard 2 (which're like 20T too heavy for most of our road bridges) but its invested significantly in other lighter armoured vehicles too e.g. Hunter & Bionix IFVs (only ~15T), the (Renault-based?) Protector troop carrier, Bronco/Terrex APC/ICV-mounted anti-tank & air missiles/rockets e.g. Mistral
@@lzh4950 I guess it is ok for Singapore considering they only need to defend the island itself. Other SEA countries like Philippines and Indonesia have to transport their armor from one island to another.
But it would be interesting if Singapore makes a light tank version using the Hunter as its platform with a new turret and a 105mm gun.
@@gabiejae3616 just checked and looks like bangladesh is the first export customer of type 15, ordered this in 2019. Wonder who is the enemy of bangladesh, is it Myanmar or india?
@@hatanokiripres possibly they bought it to have more force multiplier of their tank force considering both Myanmar and India have lots of AFVs. Maybe its also there to replace their older Type 59 tanks but I'm not entirely sure though.
@@gabiejae3616 Indonesia actually have leopard 2 MBT, but it often bogged down in a soft tropical terrain this is why Indonesia develop a 30 ton medium tank with Turkiye.
If you can get armour some where someone else cant and you can effectively support and supply that combat element effectively you have a incredible edge on the battlefield.
Just look at the U.S armoured strike trough the desert when the Iraq high command was convinced they could not.
If the type 15 can get you that edge then its great.
Love the backdrops! How were you authorized to go to all those locations??
The mountain lion might actually be a pretty good name for that tank since it is designed specifically to be good in mountainous terrain, also known as a puma and a few other common names it is found in North America and is most populous in the western regions including the Rocky Mountains. I don’t know if it is found in other places as well. 17:52
The 105mm can kill an MBT - just not likely from the front. The US army has been considering and testing (then cancelling) prototype light tanks since the 1980s, all of which were armed with a 105mm gun. If multiple countries are coming to similar conclusions about future weapons programs, I'd say they are likely correct. How many tanks are now named "panther" or Black Panther now? is it 5?
There is only one Panzerkampfwagen V that can be called Panther. By order.
@@williamzk9083 there's the panther 2 prototype, the K2 black panther, the type 15 black panther, and I think one other. Don't be pedantic for the sake of it.
Well in the 1980s the US and entirety of Europe was focused on defending against a potential Russian onslaught of tank rush where they will be attacking frontally so NATO was more interested in guns capable at destroying soviet tanks from the front. Now we know that wont happen and a lot of tanks end up getting killed from getting hit in the side by either anti-tank rockets or other tanks.
MBT’s won’t be a problem in locations that the ZTQ-15 is deployed in. Plus, it’s far more likely to face ATGM’s in actual combat anyway.
105mm is actually a good choice for lighter tanks to carry ~40 rounds.
1:35 that is not the autoloader of type-15
your viewers will get the wrong impression
type-15 has a modern western autoloader like in french leclerc
which has blowout panels.
this was really insightful - do you mind posting the audio version of these videos on audea? I like to listen more than watch and that's where I get most of my audio content
9:55 that movie is Year One. Have not seen it in a long time. Prime Juno Temple is in it.
I could see the trend that the mbt concept is starting to disappear while the concept of light tanks during the inter war and ww2 period would start to become relevant again
I feel like that one time we went to war with China in Korea was the all time low in the US-China relationship. Just my opinion.
China's massive involvement in the Forgotten War tends to go even more forgotten. Our Korean War vets deserve better.
Most people only think in terms of their generation or since the last important historic event (End of Cold War).
Read a paper lately
@@np8139 It is partly forgotten because it caused the longest US military retreat in history (this when China was still outnumbered with 300,000 against 700,000 UN forces). And without air or artillery support, just good old bolt-actions.
It is better for moral to forget that chapter in history.
@@sw36jl that's not true lmao.
100k battle scarred north Koreans and 300k FRESH chinese troops from the best equipped units in the country attacked 90k Koreans and 325k Americans, who'd been marching and fighting for weeks or months at this point.
A surprise attack, mind you.
Not only that, but another hundred thousand Chinese troops joined them before they were able to push the Marines out of Chosin Reservoir.
The south Korean army had practically collapsed after that until months later, which put 300k Americans against 400-500k Chinese during the withdrawal. Minimum.
China was caught lying so often that we know they lost literally tens of thousands of combat deaths more than they claimed. So their numbers are almost certainly higher everywhere else in the record than they said.
I dont think I've ever seen footage of active protection systems (12:02) on a tank working like that. That was nuts!!
Great job with the names. I don't think I could have gotten through it at all but definitely not without laughing at saying dong so much.
One additional potential role is its use in rapid(or long term) expeditionary roles in Africa, filling the role of the comparable french vehicles. Africa is potentially a hot bed for the new cold war. China needs to protects its economical and political investments. This could be a perfect fit for the Ethiopia/Eritrea/Djibouti/Sudan/South Sudan area.
The Army should have gone with BAE's light tank over GD's, the scalable weight and air droppable capability alone would be huge for the airborne and light infantry forces. Hopefully the USMC chooses BAE.
Main issue with the BAE light tank was unspecified "noncompliance issues", likely related to the fact that they delivered the final of 12 prototypes about 1-1/2 years later than anticipated. Not an entirely great start.
I wanted to say I love your "shoot to chill" T shirt
that panther make my day🤣 tank you
The active armor that goes off if hit by a laser is going to be fun to play with. I can see drones "spraying" a battle space with laser pulses just to set them off to ID targets. This is so much uncharted territory in warfare still it looks like the same old things seem to be key. Will to fight, Weather, Supply, and a Plan. Those were all the things that have decided wars from the start of time.
Not only that usually the smoke that tanks for smokescreen is made out of white phosphorus so if the tanks job is to accompany infantry I feel sorry for them
I am not sure where you got your information on the use of WP but vehicles like tanks generate smoke by injecting fuel into the turbos or equivalent hot exhaust stream. They also have smoke grenades that can be launched up and out in a pinch around the vehicle but these are normal smoke like what the infantry would carry in a different package. In the West WP is rarely used and is designated for signaling only not screening. For countries like russia it is primarily used as an offensive weapon. @@ohadzeid745
What the world needs is for the FV101 Scorpion to be modernised and put back into production. That happens and I'm a happy camper.
Make it less of a maintenance hog like it was!
I prefer a new tank than some old relic.
@@Alex-pj8nz Protip: Go get a dictionary and look up what 'modernised' means.
Bruh just delete that abomination. AMX light tanks are better .
@@Nihtglom it’s easier to make a new tank from ground up than attempt modernisation on an old relic.
Love the shirt though “shoot to chill” Lmao 🤣