The Tang Dynasty was the most cosmopolitan and socially liberal dynasty in Chinese history. But still, there is a limit to the kind of deviancy they could tolerate.
doing very well, bro. As a Chinese who is familiar with Chinese history, I can say responsibly that you are very good at both your understanding of Chinese history and the depiction of the costumes of the characters in the corresponding period.
Seeing Li Yuan in the background playing his lute while his son was busy managing the empire and fighting back the turks has a small hint of tragedy behind it all.
Wei Zhang was one of the greatest ministers of all time. Taizong frequently politely bore his critiques to Taizong's benefit. After Wei's death, Taizong failed invading Korea afterwards saying "If Wei Zheng were still alive, he would not have allowed me to go on this campaign." afterwards restoring his monument and rewarding the Wei family for Wei Zhang's service. I hope you exapand on Wei Zhang at sometime in the future.
Li Shimin: come on let me see the records Scholors: no, an emperor cant see them Li Shimin:please? Scholors: fine Hundreds of years later: And Li shimin was the greatest chinese general of all time
Well there are still some materials he can't change, like the famous 大唐创业起居注 written by Wen Daya. The book is written before Li Shimin killed his brothers and seized the throne. If the records was reliable, Li Shimin is still one of the greatest generals in Chinese history. Maybe part of it was exaggerated. But still, one of the best. I mean afterall, he did take down most of the hard-bitten obstacles in path of Tang's reunification of China. Here's a list: Xue Rengao Liu Wuzhou Dou Jiande Wang Shichong Liu Heita These major opponents obliterated tons of famous generals from Li Yuan's clan. Yet all of them were relentlessly defeated by Li Shimin's force. Today, the battle of Hulaoguan where Li Shimin with his 3,500 cavalry crushed the Dou Jiande's 100,000 soldiers is still a essential material for Chinese cadets to learn.
Because south China was fully sinnicized during the Tang dynasty and also chinese people like to identify with prosperous dynasties ie how their ethnic group is named after the Han dynasty as well as their writing system.
This series on the Tang is really great. Helps me to understand my clan's ancient roots in the desert, and the kind of traits that have passed down to the present day from 600AD. It's presented in a superbly detailed and relatively light hearted way.
I am really glad i found your channel. I especially enjoyed the videos on the 'hundred schools of thought'. I was wandering if you could make more videos on some of the schools like agriculturalism and the diplomats.
Long before even then, we had already 和親ed our way into the Steppes. Given how fertile leaders were, they had many children. Many of them were descendants of Han too.
Tang Dynasty is a predominantly Chinese cultured Empire but also retained nomadic influences from the Xiongnu and the Xianbei peoples due to the 5 barbarian invasions after the war of the 8 princes. The foreign nomadic people started to mingle with the Chinese population after countless invasions. They were quickly sinicized and assimilated by the majority Chinese people as they swiftly adopted the agrarian Chinese way of life but also left their mark on the Chinese societies. But from the late Tang until the present day, the nomadic influences were lost in time, you can compare the Men's Rounded collared robe from early Tang and the late Tang. Early Tang era Round collared Robe were very tight but late era Tang rounded robe were big and loosen very much like the Song dynasty counterpart reflecting the gradual loss of nomadic influences. Same thing goes to the headgear, the Song Dynasty style long eared hat was actually first appeared during the late Tang period .
Apparently the Tang Dynasty also claims to have Zhongyuan origins. I was surprised when they changed their national outfit to Round collared Robe, even the inner robe. cross-collared robe has a history of at least from the Zhou dynasty, even further, and is that the oldest costume of huaxia has been replaced quite simply. Do you have any documents on the Tang dynasty dress-changing decrees? The costume change under the Qing, china, and Nguyen dynasty, Vietnam was very obvious.
@@tungnguyenba627 fact that you don`t even understand the term " national outfit" is quite impressive for you to write this cmt , see people nowaday from both goverment agents and civilian wear Vest or Veste does it make Vest become national outfit ??
@@ZhangLee. I also did not offend. The truth can be seen in the Qing Dynasty in China and the Nguyen in Vietnam. Their styles are completely different from those used in the previous centuries. The entire population wears shirts with similar texture, the short length can be different. Although cross-collared robe styles still appear, they are only used for rituals, or high honor in society, on formal occasions (the Nguyen dynasty in Vietnam. This is different from today's Vest suits. Clothes vary, and vest worn on formal occasions, when you go to work ... Round collared Robe in the Tang era is not like Vest, worn by all classes, even the inner layer is Round collared Robe. www.douban.com/note/303151044/?fbclid=IwAR0kMCYLvUBsfr4rBXBKyMxP6FkDW2XKxoHVBPYm-wJQtyeTd21RTpAtdAI
@@godzillamothra5983 one of reason is Tang are very familiar with nomadic culture at the north (since they are most likely descendent of XianBei clan from the north). Han ruling system demand their people stay at fixed location and do agriculture work. This is a very fundamental practices that act as cornerstone for literally everything, culture, policy, government and administration. That is also the very reason why Han cannot control the plain even if they able to wipe everyone out on that land. Because anyone live at the plain will eventually adopt the nomadic culture and deviate from Han. No 'genuine Han' can live there because they cant plant their rice there. Tang run both nomadic system and han system. The highest level ruler can be referred as Khan (nomadic system) and Emperor (Han system) at the same time. They don't give a shxt about bloodlines and race (a significant trait of nomadic clan). They let nomadic clan handle the military part and let Han people run the administration stuff. Its a hybrid system. But that is also the reason of their downfall. The trait of nomadic clan being aggressive and robbing manners eventually turn against Tang Empire itself when expansion become too expensive. Nomadic clan do not have terrible gap in social hierachy (Eg: Temujin able to become a clan leader out of nowhere as a slave). That also mean they don't give a fxxk about history and social status. If the leader cant satisfy their need, then they do what they want to achieve it. Tang Empire already encountered countless scene like this (political dogfight within royal family) before their golden age end. They are essentially counting down to their death after the Empire tolerate the pseudo 'self-independence' by their warlord. The trait from overpowered military class cause the downfall of Tang Empire and it lead to countless coup like this even after they fall. The next 'China' tried to fix this by completely disarming the military class. And here we got Song dynasty as the weakest china in terms of military power, who try to go easypeasy with everyone.
Some suggests Li Tang Monarchs have Toba Sabir/ XianBei blood ties as they are relatives to the Sui dynasty, and the Tobas are more Turkic unlike other Eastern XianBeis. This might explains why ShiMin could Negotiate with Jili Khan directly without an interpreter
Oh, it is actually quite easily traceable. Both Li Shimin'd grand mother and mother were part Xianbei. A lot of intermarriages took place between the noble families. So it's hard to tell exactly how many part xianbei they were. So, Li Shimin could be up to 75% Xianbei and his wife also came from a Xianbei family.
@@ZhangLee. I got no objection with the Lis to Sui: Yang clan or even to the Tobas and the treaty of WeiShui, but the Turkic part is still an estimation
Fun fact：By the help od turks,xinjiang became a part of tang dy.turks and han Chinese have same ancestors.han Chinese mixed with Asian native people and turks mixed with Asian native people first, but they mixed with white people next. So they looks like white
Sometimes I can understand Turkish people.For most Chinese students, Turk history only means 200 words in our history textbook. The only names we still remembered about ancient Turks were just Ashina Clan and familes. After they pledged loyalty to Taizong Emperor. There were no more any information about Turks in our history Book. I had met a lot of Turkish friends, they always asked me about their ancestors in Chinese history book.But I really can't answer too much, because as we knew, your direct ancestors Ashina families had already become Chinese over 1000 years…
Another great video here, highlighting a lot of details about a well known figure that aren't usually brought up. Great work here. By the way; can anyone contact you guys on Discord? Or is that for Patrons only?
Chinese still call themselves 唐人（tang people) even today. China town literally translates to 唐人街(tang people street). In addition, there are huge amount of tang dynasty poem in middle school and high school are required to learn, and there are a lot famous tang dynasty people are required to learn in school too. You can see Chinese love tang dynasty so much.
@@hermannboyen5392 if you know Chinese classic literature, a lot of tang dynasty poems worships han dynasty. They idolize Han dynasty, and proudly claim themselves the desandent of Han dynasty.
Ethnic Chinese refers them either as 唐人(tang people) or 漢族 (Han people). Han and Tang dynasties are considered the golden eras of Chinese civilization. In recent years, Tang Dynasty period tv series, movie and online novels are getting very popular. Great research had been conduct to gain accurate information and the portrayal of Tang Dynasty era culture to younger generations.
@@papercat2599 shatuo Turks and gokturks settle and down marry Chinese imperial the oghuz Turks got nothing but claim. Don’t even have their bloodline lol
So is Li Shimin the reason why the Turks migrated to the West and Turkic empires like the Seljuks and Ottomans exist and eventually the country of Turkey exists in Anatolia?? So Li Shimin is partially responsible for the end of the East Roman Empire and the Fall of Constantinople??
@Demir Bey the true Turks of the Turkish Khanate are the ones ruled by the Ashina clan. Before that there were only ‘Turkic’ people migrations to Europe and the Middle EastS
@Demir Bey I don’t refer to random nomads from Central Asia migrating West. I’m specifically saying their is a connection with the Turkish Khanate founded by the Ashina clan that was conquered by Tang Taizong of the Tang China with the Seljuks and Ottomans. Don’t modern Turks consider the Orkhon Inscriptions the earliest example of the Turkish language which is now spoken in Anatolia?
Sanskrits/ ShaTuo stayed & merged into the Han Chinese, royalties adopted surname Li as they "inherited" Tang realm. Others such as Keraites, Naimans become Kazakhs
Actually the han empire was partially responsible for the fall of rome. The han empire kicked the huns out of China, one group migrated westward and caused havoc in europe. And this groups of huns caused the Germanic tribes to move and attack the romans
- Wei Zheng's job inteview: - Emperor Taizong: "Is it true that you advised my brother to kill me?" - Wei Zheng: "If he had listned to me we wouldn't be having this conversation!" - Emperor Taizong: "Excellent! You're hired!"
After the collapse of the Eastern Turkic Khaganate due to the Rise of Yugur-Uigher Khaganate, most eastern Tiele Turks were assimilated into the Tang Chinese. So effectively, the hybrid Chinese Turkic dynasty lived on. Upto today, Southern Chinese call themselves Tang people rather than Han people. It was the Yuan Mongol dynasty that designated the Chinese as Han nationality.
Demir=Temür=iron (ferroum) Çün=(chun)=factor (agency /being agent of..) Demirci=Temurçi= ironsmith (temuçin= mongolian) Deńiz= Thengiz= Sea ( tchengis= mongolian) Denizci=seaman Kak-mak= to direct (Yukarı Kalk) Yukarı Kak= (direct (yourself) up) =Get up (Kak-der-mak) Kaktırmak= to steer Bunu Kaktır= steer this ...(Bunu Kalktır)=Bunu Kaldır=lift/remove this .. Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)= one =fore/ first Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one directs )= Who's directing Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning) Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning) (Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose) Han = director- manager-leader religious leader=Kohen (who directs us about the future events=Kahin) Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=the religious manager Kul =servant Han Kul'u = The servant of emperor =public servant Yaban = out of center =Jaban=Japan Yabancı = the outer of center= outsider=foreigner (Yaban Halk)=Japon halkı=Japan People=off-center people (just by us) but (2.hun=ni-fun)Nippon people for the Japanese
The name of the Han people comes from the Han Dynasty, not the Mongols. You've read too much about fake history. Ancient China was a patriarchal society. They don't care too much about women's ancestry. There is a Chinese saying called "非我族类，其心必异"： It means that different races and we are not people of the same race, so loyalty is suspicious. This sentence is from the Tang Dynasty. The alien in this sentence refers to Turk. "胡无人，汉道昌"： kill all the nomadic barbarians, and let the Han civilization flourish and develop in the local area; This classic saying also comes from the Tang Dynasty. People in the Tang Dynasty never thought they were Turks. The emperor of the Tang Dynasty only had a grandmother who was Xianbei, so there was little nomadic blood. Xianbei people are not Turks. They are nomadic people originating from Northeast China. Turkish history is full of falsehood.
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inviting / 称呼 / 邀请 Çağrı = Calling / 称呼 Uç > ~up-side (endpoint) (o-bir-uç=burç=extreme point= bourge) / tepe=~top-point (Uç-mak)= to fly (~go up) (Uç-a-var)> Uçar=it flies (has a chance to fly / arrives by flying) (Uç-ma-bas)> uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying / doesn't bother to fly) (Uç-der-ma-bas) >uçturmaz> uçurmaz= doesn't fly it (doesn't make it fly) (Uç-eş-ma-bas)>uçuşmaz= doesn't (all)together fly (Uç-al-ma-bas)>uçulmaz= no one has gotten to fly /~no one's allowed to fly İç > ~in-side (inner) (İç-mek) = to drink (include inside) / İç-der-mek> içermek= to contain (Bu Adam Çay İç-e-er)>> Bu adam çay içer=This man gets to drink tea>This man drinks tea then (Aç-mak)= to open (to see/show inside) (Aş-mak)=~to exceed /go beyond Dış> ~out-side (Dış-a-aş-mak)>Taşmak =~overflow Taş =stone (portable rock) Taşı-mak =~to take (moving) it to a different place Taşı-et-mak =Taşıtmak> to make it moved to a different place Taşı-en-mak =Taşınmak> to move oneself to a different place Der-mek= (~to provide) to set the layout by bringing together (der-le-mek= to compile) Dar-mak= to bring into a different order by disrupting the old (thara-mak=to comb) Dur-mak= to keep being present/there (~to remain/~to survive) thuror =permanent /(bogha-thor>boğatur>bahadır(hero)>ghadhur>hazır=existent>ready Dur-der-mak> durdurmak= ~to stop Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it become a roll) Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis ( Thörmek>old meaning)- to stir /to mix (current meaning) (döngü)törüş/törüv=tour (törüv-çi / törüv-giş=tourist / thörük halk=mixed people among themself (Thöre-mek)>türemek= to get created a new layout/form by coming together in the same medium (tür= kind / type) Töre=the order established over time= custom/tradition > (torah=sacred order) (tarih=history) Thör-et-mek=türetmek= to create a new layout combining them= to derive Thör-en-mek>dörünmek= to rotate oneself /(2. to turn by oneself) Thör-en-mek>>dörn-mek>Dönmek= to turn oneself (Dön-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something (Dön-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something (Dön-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ to transform Eğ-mek=to turn something the other way or to a curved shape> eğmek= to tilt/ to bend Eğ-al-mek=Eğilmek=to get being inclined/ to be bent over Eğ-et-mek=Eğitmek=to educate Eğir-mek= to turn around itself by bending it or make it turn to another way in a specified time =~ to spin (eğri =curve /awry) Evir-mek=to make it turn upside or turn up in other way over a specified time =~to invert /make it turn to something different in a specified time Eğir-al-mek=Eğrilmek= to become a skew / to become twisted Evir-al-mek=Evrilmek= to get a conversion/transformation over time (evrim=evolution evren=universe) Uğra-mak= to get (at) a place or a situation for a specified time> uğramak= drop by/ stop by Uğra-eş-mak=to stop altogether by into each other for a specified time> uğraşmak=to strive/ to deal with Uğra-et-mak= uğratmak = to put in a situation for a specific time (uğru = the way of) Öğre-mek=to get (at) a status or a level / to get an accumulation within a certain time Öğre-en-mek=to get (at) a knowledge or a knowledge level at a certain time> öğrenmek= to learn Öğre-et-mek=to have somebody get (at) a knowledge / level (at a certain time)= to teach Türkçe öğretiyorum =I am teaching turkish İngilizce öğreniyorsun = You are learning english Öğreniyorsun = You are learning > Öğren-i-yor-u-sen= You try to learn Öğreniyorum = I am learning Öğreniyordum = I was learning Öğreniyormuşum=I heard/realized that I was learning Öğrenmekteyim=I have been learning / I am in (the process of) learning Öğrenmekteydim=I had been learning / I was in (the process of) learning Öğrenmekteymişim=I heard/noticed that I had been learning Öğrenirim =~ I learn (then) > Öğren-e-er-im= I get to learn Öğrenirdim= ~I used to learn / I would learn (~I‘d get (a chance) to learn ) Öğrenirmişim=I heard/noticed that I would be learning ( I realized I’ve got (a chance) to learn) Öğreneceğim= I will learn Öğrenecektim= I would gonna learn (I would learn) Öğrenecekmişim=I heard/ realized that I would have to learn Öğrendim = I learned Öğrenmiştim= I had learned Öğrenmiş oldum (öğrenmiş durumdayım)= I have learned Öğrendiydim= I remember having learned /I remember such that I've learned Öğrenmişim =I noticed that I've learned Öğrendiymişim=I heard that I’ve learned -but if what I heard is true Öğrenmişmişim=I heard that I've learned -but what I heard didn't sound very convincing Öğreniyorumdur =I guess/likely I am learning Öğreniyordurum =I think/likely I was trying to learn Öğreniyormuşumdur=As if I was probably learning Öğreneceğimdir= I think that I will probably learn Öğrenecektirim=I guess/likely I would gonna learn Öğrenecekmişimdir=As if I would probably have to learn Öğrenecekmiştirim=Seems that I would probably be learned Öğrenmişimdir = I think that I have probably learned Öğrenmiştirim= I guess/likely I had learned 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰰
Coincidentally, an Ashina clan was also one of the oldest and famous Japanese clans and the self-declared arch enemy of Masamune Date, one of the last Daimyos that opposed the unification of Japan under Toyotomi Hideyoshi
@@andro7862 Ashina is the royal clan name of the Turkic khaganate , therefore my own name is from a Turkic hero who wanted to assasinate chineese emperror(Li Chih) with his 40 man and died trying, who is known as Ashina Chieh she shuai , 阿史那結社率 /阿史那结社率 ( Shibobis brother ), // mentioned as the rebellion maker in the vid
8:09 Jiesheshuai's assasination attempt became a very popular subject in Turkey after a famous historical fiction novel about him by Nihal Atsız. He even created a new Turkish name for him and called him "Kürşad". Which became a popular name for male children.
It's pretty funny because "Han" Chinese especially in the North are likely a massive mix of Turkic, Mongol, Jurchen, and Chinese people. Chinese meaning the people birth-place of Han Identity which I believe is called "Zhong yuan". At this point "Han" is just a title for an agrarian lifestyle as China has had so much contact with Turks and Mongols. The Western "Xia" not to be confused with the Xia Dynasty was Xianbei or Mongol in origin and eventually became Chinese. Same for the later Tang dynasty (not to be confused with Tang) as they were ruled by the Shatuo Turkic tribe. A tribe that fractured from the Western Gokturks and under the rule of the Tang dynasty slowly became more and more Han before eventually simply viewing themselves as Han. Same happened to any foreign ruling dynasty besides the Yuan.
The Tang Dynasty used some Turkish soldiers. But the Tang Dynasty is a complete Chinese dynasty, and the Turkish tribes are not all Turkish of Turkish origin. The first people were a small people. As for the Chinese and the Mongols, they are two very large peoples.
The Mongols were only one of hundreds of tribes that surrendered to the Han people, and the Mongols stood out until the civil wars of the Jin and Song Dynasties in China had no time to manage nomadic tribes, The Mongols dispatched all the troops to lay down a small town on the Chinese frontier and acquired a large number of Han armor and weapons. It was not until 20 years later that Genghis Khan was independent from China at the age of 49, and then conquered Central Asia and Eastern Europe before he dared to fight with the Jin Dynasty. Finally, the Mongolian Khan took the Han surname and implemented the Chinese writing system. The etiquette gained the recognition of the Han nationality in the north before conquering the Song Dynasty!
You need to realise there is Turkish (which anatolia former ottomans) There is Turkic. Turkic is a large group who were originally from mongolian steppes. Throughout history they moved west. But while being there they fought mostly with chinese. Huns, hephtalites, they all were turkic or proto turkic people. Well let me tell you Turks were not small like chinese. Mongols and Turks at certain time you could not distinguish between them. Turks are way more spread than you might think.
It is common practice until this Emperor Taizong breaks the rule, which is seen to be the most significant failure and stain of his reign. Before that, the strict rule is that the historians keeps the record and cannot be intervened by any power. And the job of historian in China is most of the time a hereditary job. One thing worthy noting is that in China there are mainly two types of historians, type one is who simply write the record (the raw material) of what happened, and type 2 is who coverts the raw records and other materials into history books. Usually, when a new dynasty overthrow the old one, the new dynasty will inherit the raw records of the old dynasty, and assign a historian to write a history book about the old dynasty. So in this sense, what Emperor Taizong did is a direct modification of the raw record and it is inevitably going to bias the later history book writing (although after many centuries), and that is why this is considered to be having a very negative influence.
Ashina's appearance was strange: his hair is yellow, his complexion was completely red, and his eyes were lapis blue. - Yang Jian ////// According to Sinologist Penglin Wang, some Gokhturk had mixed west Eurasian-featured (Wusun/Tocharian/Yuezhi/Saka/Askuzai) traits such as blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin due to absorbing some Indo-European elements. The Gokhturk were described as white on several occasions. ///// Zhu Hong and Zhang Quan-chao studied Gokhturk crania from several sites of Inner Mongolia and noticed that anthropological features of studied Ashina crania show that the racial type is closely related to the modern East-Europeans, and some physical characteristics of those skulls are closer to modern Mongols, Manchu and Han Chinese.
why you list Saka and Askuzai when they are the same word in different language? lol Anyone knows the Gokturks are a mix of indo-iranian and Siberian tribes just like modern turks. Ashina literally means Blue/sky in iranic(assena) which has the same meaning as Gok/kok in gokturk.
@@rakyat47 The name Sakā was used by the ancient Persian to refer to all the Iranian nomadic tribes living to the north of their empire, including both those who lived between the Caspian Sea and the Hungry steppe, and those who lived to the north of the Danube and the Black Sea. The Assyrians meanwhile called these nomads the Ishkuzai or Askuzai , and the Ancient Greeks called them Skuthai (Ancient Greek: Σκύθης Skúthēs, Σκύθοι Skúthoi, Σκύθαι Skúthai). You welcome. All these terms comes from the Indo-European word for shooter or archer which was (s)kewd or *Skuδa.
@@temirbug_han No, Turkic are a combination of the IRANIC Scythians/Saka/Wusun and other indo-European nomads with Siberian Turkic speaking nomadic warriors like the Xiongnu(Huns) and some Mongolic and Tungusic mixed in. Nothing wrong with being a mixed tribed of bad ass warriors who nearly conquered half the world. The facts in in the Turkic peoples DNA/Genes its literally Half White/ Half Asian in Gokturk graves and modern turks more white in the west and more Asian in the East but always mixed.
@@henli-rw5dw I later watched a video of his where he talked about the Majapahit Empire and pronounced everything super-genuinely-not in a way that an English- and Chinese-speaker would. That just makes me even more certain he’s S.E. Asian Chinese-most likely Indonesian
Xianbei might be a little too broad. The Li family had blood ties specifically to the noble Tuoba (Tabgatch) family through marriage. The Tuoba might have been Turkic or Mongolic by different accounts.
I thought you are going to talk about lengendary general Li Jing, cause he can defeated a large army of Eastern Turkic Khaganate with only a small cavalry army, so that he got the praise from Li Shimin himself And another legendary general Su Dinfang who conquer Western Turkic Khaganate
@@1212-m6b Tang Chinese soldier defeat Umayyad Arab soldier twice in battle of Ferghana 715 and battle of Aksu 717 And yes no Chinese soldier ever step into central Asia again after An Lu Shan rebellion but not because battle of Talas
Allow me a simple suggestion. Add 漢字 for Chinese names. In Japanese, and I would assume Korean, they aren't read with Chinese pronunciation and it becomes quite difficult to find information about them in those sources.
@@CoolHistoryBros If it is technically difficult in the graphics, you might try and give a list in the explanatory text under the video. Appreciate the effort and very interesting videos since Asian history is pretty much glossed over in Western education.
There are some Xianbei ancestry, but the Li family's Paternity lineage were Han and they themselves firmly insist they are Han, generally only non-Chinese always like to say they are not Han 😂 because the Tang Dynasty was too powerful and they were jealous, as Chinese we are used to it
Eastern turkic khaganate ? they were called gokturks word turkic is a lingustic term calling them as turkic khaganate sounds like calling russia the slavic empire or calling other chinese dynasties as sinotic empire
Whether you like or not these ancient warriors were speaking old Turkish and were calling themselves Turk. Their empire was called Gok Turk Empire( Sky Turk Empire)... Ancient monuments with Turkish inscriptions are still in Orkhon Valley... These people are the ancestors of Turks and this is official history.
Chanced upon this video. Nice animations but factually incorrect...the only “Sino-Turkic” link is the early threat posed by the Eastern Turkic Khaganate, which is swiftly removed by Emperor Taizong. Emperor Taizong’s paternal grandma Duchess Dugu, is of Xianbei origin, not Turkic. In response to the Eastern Turkic Khaganate’s incursion in 626 (led by Ashina Duobi, their last Khan), right away his ascension as Emperor, Taizong launched a military campaign against Eastern Turkic Khaganate in the Winter of 629 and succeeded in capturing Ashina Duobi by spring 630. Emperor Taizong eliminated this early menace to his empire but spared Ashina Doubi’s life and brought him to Chang’an where he was given a mansion to live out the rest of his life (arguably laying down Tang practice of providing generous treatment towards the rulers of conquered nations). Theses defeated rulers and their retinue settled in Chang’an over time and helped make the capital city and the Tang empire more cosmopolitan etc. Their descendants still live in Chang’an (modern-day Xi’an). Benevolence breeds benevolence. 👍👍👍
Tang Dynasty was the greatest Chinese empire in history also the most golden age. What about Manchurians dynasty in modern times? they also as the second was 😄
The Qing owned the most land, but they caused China to slide into backwardness and many Chinese still blame the Qing for the humiliations at the hand of the British and other European nations.
uploader ,Tang NOT a sino-Turk empire , Tang is CHINESE or HANESE. Tang is Typical Chinese Dynasty ,Tang royal is Hanese ,less Xianbei genetic from mother side.not the Turk less Turk people or werrior etc join the Tang but not mean Tang is Turkic or half Turkic, also some Korean or Janpnese join the Tang, is it means Tang is "Sino-Korean " or " Sino-Janpnese" empire? also not all of in nomadic ethnic in North China called "Turkic" , only Gok Turkic is Turkic , Xianbei not Turk ,mongol not Turk, Uyghur not Turk.
hey Cool History Bros, can you be sure that "Tian" comes from "Tengri" but not "Tengri" comes from "Tian"? Or they just have common ancestor long long ago? Anyway, one thing can be sured is that "Tian" had been in Chinese for a very long time because it is a basic word that been used everywhere, but nomads didn't have concrete record.
Buddhism brought them to India -China-Korea- Japan- America - Europe with T- bone ox cow stakes Stock exchange into or from Confucianism. Now I have to Choose Taoism due to too many contaminated intervene events by them. Korean- Expression teach how they started, Wang- TTa- Dang- Hat- Da= They caught the Wang family to establish power in the east. And their current ground is gone to air space.
Thank you so much! I learned some interesting things. About the Turks, I would like to add something. First of all, the Ashina are thought to be an Iranic Tribe, that either conquered the Turkish speaking tribes or joined them peacefully in a confederation. The Ashina were probably related to the WUSUN-Tribe that lived around the Altai and Tian Shan. According to the New Book of Tang, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation. The Tiele People or Gaoche were originally called Dingling People. The Dingling originally lived on the bank of the Lena River in the area west of Lake Baikal. So it was the union of Siberians and Indo-Europeans, that brought about the Koekturks.
(Late) Ashina were Turkic, probably using the legacy of a long-dead Scythian clan name, but thats the furthest stretch that can be said about their "iranicness". They spoke Turkic. All of their steles are in Turkic stating they were Turks, stressing their khaganate is only for Turks.
@@papazataklaattiranimam A lot of Ottoman elites were Slavs and Bulgarians, including their sultana, the janissaries were also majorly of Bulgarian and of other Eastern European descent not Turks.
@@hwasiaqhan8923 I'm not defending accuracy of the video title, but you have the funniest logic I've ever seen in my life.Also, you 100% misunderstood what was meant in the video.
@@papazataklaattiranimam I understood it very well, the Queen of Britain was once also the Queen of India, this doesn’t make the British empire a British-Indian empire. Similar scenarios happened a lot in history.
İn Turkic History, ZHOU dynasty acceptable as TURKİC OK+HUZ (OGHUZ) state. And WU WANG = OK+UZ KANG, OGHUZ HAN. not only Tabgach or Han. HAN= TURKİC RULER FAMİLY TİTLE like fatih sultan mehmet HAN.
Your Turkey history base on forged in the history ,Chinese no any relationship with you Turkey Turkey and Greek from same ancenstor ,just European , fake turkic
@@emgailinhka6979 Jesus would love how China is helping the poor. Corona virus came from Europe in new studies. LOL mad China hater that China is rising to the top.
Demir=Temür=iron (ferroum) Çün=(chun)=factor (agency /being agent of..) Demirci=Temurçi= ironsmith (temuçin= mongolian) Deńiz= Thengiz= Sea ( tchengis= mongolian) Denizci=seaman Kak-mak= to direct (Yukarı Kalk) Yukarı Kak= (direct (yourself) up) =Get up (Kak-der-mak) Kaktırmak= to steer Bunu Kaktır= steer this ...(Bunu Kalktır)=Bunu Kaldır=lift/remove this .. Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)= one =fore/ first Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one directs )= Who's directing Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning) Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning) (Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose) Han = director- manager-leader religious leader=Kohen (who directs us about the future events=Kahin) Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=the religious manager Kul =servant Han Kul'u = The servant of emperor =public servant Yaban = out of center =Jaban=Japan Yabancı = the outer of center= outsider=foreigner (Yaban Halk)=Japon halkı=Japan People=off-center people (just by us) but (2.hun=ni-fun)Nippon people for the Japanese
I think our friend is Indonesian Chinese, hence such pronunciation of the R. He's awesome with his pronunciation of Chinese names AND Austronesian/Indonesian/Malay names which helps us students of history in knowing the right pronunciation of the various names.
The Han ethnicity is sort of an artificial ethnicity where many non-Han and "barbarians" became Han through assimilation and cultural adoption. And many of the so called "barbarians" were actually quite advanced, and made up a large numbers of Chinese people in ancient times. For example, the largest kingdom of the Warring States period, the Chu Kingdom, had a native population of mostly non-Han people and the kingdom itself was considered quasi-barbarian like.
@@Intranetusa there’s no such term as Han in warring periods. Chu were just not central China people. Han refer to much bigger areas. Every one who once lived in Han dynasties. Even back then Han dynasty had people with some nomadic background and people with biyue . That composition of gene remains the same to the modern day Han Chinese. Race just referring to a group of people when the term first invented. Han Chinese is the same Han Chinese when the term first started.
@@papercat2599 During the Warring States period, the people who were later called the Han were the people of the central plains kingdoms. The Chu were originally non-Han people but eventually were assimilated into the Han category. The composition of genes of what is considered Han does not remain the same, since the integration of Austro-Asiatic Yue people in South China, Indo-Europeans in Western China, and the integration of northern nomadic people of the steppes and Manchuria have significantly changed Han genetics. They did a study on genetic differences among the Han people, and it varied significantly according to region - as different as a person from Korea or Japan.
@@Intranetusa how is it possible for chu, to be non Han. When Chu doesn’t even exist in Han dynasties period? Han never main central plan people. Han is everyone that’s within the empire. You don’t even make any sense. At this point you just making your own version history. Also no Manchu and Mongol leave pretty much no mark on modern Han gene pool. Because the Han population is so dominant throughout the history. The genetic structure of northern Han stays the same for 3000 years. Way before Mongol and Manchu exist. This is literally a well known scientific research. Check this website, also don’t try to to embarrass yourself anymore.
@@papercat2599 No, Han is not simply everyone within the empire. Are foreigners Han? Are barbarian nomads inside the empire Han? Of course not. The Han Dynasty created the name Han for people who followed a certain culture and originated from the central plains. Before the Han Dynasty, the Han people were just the people of the Central Plains. The word Han can be retroactively applied to people of the Central Plains, and the Chu people are not central plains people. You claim Northern Han genes stay the same for 3000 years? Stop making embarassing claims. Modern Southern Han are much closer to the original Han people in genes and language. Southern languages actually resemble ancient Chinese languages while northern languages like Mandarin were influenced by medieval nomadic barbarian languages. Also, the genetic difference between Northern Han and Southern Han is significant - like the difference between southern Han and Korean. The Northern part of China was invaded and taken over by northern steppe people for many centuries starting with the fall of the Jin Dynasty, 16 kingdoms, Sui-Tang era, Northern Jin Dynasty, Yuan Dynasty, and Qing Dynasty.
@@papercat2599 that is also the convenient way many assume for separating early Han from later Han because early Han had more Northern ppls assimilating adopting Han surnames and virtues long before the Han Dynasty，as it had been the Han cultural sphere and not a bloodline specific to a locale，as cultural assimilation by choice had been prominent even before the Shang period；interestingly many Han surnames bear traces of nomadic ancestry，tho that is another rabbit hole in itself
@@samuelmonge1656 Because Korean people never resided across the Yalu river until late 1900s, and the descendant of those people who fled to China now live at the Korean minority community of Yanbian.
@@volkanozturkmen6245 Tang's emperors had ancestors (linked by mothers) of Xianbei whose y chromosome is C haplogroup same as Mongolians. So not Turks. Turks' first king is Scythian with Y chromosome of haplogroup R1a and of course he ruled a mixed group of people with haplogroup C and Q. So I said not Turks but Mongolians.
According to the logic of your Turks, I can't understand it at all. It has nothing to do with the Turks, but you have to come to recognize your ancestors.
The Tang Dynasty was the most cosmopolitan and socially liberal dynasty in Chinese history. But still, there is a limit to the kind of deviancy they could tolerate.
After the history of china is done will you do videos/series like this for other countries?
@@Progamerr_06 no need I think, as Chinese history was very long and rich
@@laosi4278 I know that
@Metallus Zorax Atmosphere.
No one believe ccp's fake history
I love how he has the correct armor of the Tang soldiers. Was shown quite well in The Longest Day in Chang’an tv series.
Longest day in Chang'an fan here !
@@bapyongukgukguk2352 yeah man one of the best Tv series about the Tang
Li Shimin's father playing the lute on the corner while shit gets down is a hilarious tragic detail 😂
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I just love how the abdicated emperor Li Yuan plays some musical instrument in the background casually the whole time.
doing very well, bro. As a Chinese who is familiar with Chinese history, I can say responsibly that you are very good at both your understanding of Chinese history and the depiction of the costumes of the characters in the corresponding period.
Agree. His mandarin pronunciation is a bit off though, especially when it comes to the "h" sound in zh, ch, sh.
Do you from mainland china..?
@@taichiwinchester1102 I'm pretty sure that's just a regional accent, probably from the southern parts of China
Seeing Li Yuan in the background playing his lute while his son was busy managing the empire and fighting back the turks has a small hint of tragedy behind it all.
Wei Zhang was one of the greatest ministers of all time. Taizong frequently politely bore his critiques to Taizong's benefit. After Wei's death, Taizong failed invading Korea afterwards saying "If Wei Zheng were still alive, he would not have allowed me to go on this campaign." afterwards restoring his monument and rewarding the Wei family for Wei Zhang's service. I hope you exapand on Wei Zhang at sometime in the future.
Li Shimin: come on let me see the records
Scholors: no, an emperor cant see them
Li Shimin:please?
Scholors: fine
Hundreds of years later: And Li shimin was the greatest chinese general of all time
Well there are still some materials he can't change, like the famous 大唐创业起居注 written by Wen Daya.
The book is written before Li Shimin killed his brothers and seized the throne. If the records was reliable, Li Shimin is still one of the greatest generals in Chinese history. Maybe part of it was exaggerated. But still, one of the best.
I mean afterall, he did take down most of the hard-bitten obstacles in path of Tang's reunification of China. Here's a list:
Xue Rengao
Liu Wuzhou
Dou Jiande
Wang Shichong
Liu Heita
These major opponents obliterated tons of famous generals from Li Yuan's clan. Yet all of them were relentlessly defeated by Li Shimin's force. Today, the battle of Hulaoguan where Li Shimin with his 3,500 cavalry crushed the Dou Jiande's 100,000 soldiers is still a essential material for Chinese cadets to learn.
Always wondered why my parents refer to our race as Tang-Ren (people of Tang) in Cantonese.
Same with other overseas Chinese descendants in South East Asia
*Tong-Yan
Because south China was fully sinnicized during the Tang dynasty and also chinese people like to identify with prosperous dynasties ie how their ethnic group is named after the Han dynasty as well as their writing system.
I can't wait for you to make a video about Wu Zetian next!
Very awesome , high quality and funny videos greetings from Turkey
This series on the Tang is really great. Helps me to understand my clan's ancient roots in the desert, and the kind of traits that have passed down to the present day from 600AD.
It's presented in a superbly detailed and relatively light hearted way.
looks like Marcus Aurelius has found a worthy rival
Long after the imperivm romanvm fell
Or trajan.
Han Wudi >>>> Marcus Aurelius.
Roman empire is still alive at that point @@shanedoesyoutube8001
Thank you for this great video!
I am really glad i found your channel. I especially enjoyed the videos on the 'hundred schools of thought'. I was wandering if you could make more videos on some of the schools like agriculturalism and the diplomats.
Of the warring states period?
@@Marc-. Yes, the warrings states period and parts of the spring and autumn period.
Really love ur channel
Sui Dynasty's emperors were referred as saint Khan by Turkic tribes.
Long before even then, we had already 和親ed our way into the Steppes. Given how fertile leaders were, they had many children. Many of them were descendants of Han too.
Tang Dynasty is a predominantly Chinese cultured Empire but also retained nomadic influences from the Xiongnu and the Xianbei peoples due to the 5 barbarian invasions after the war of the 8 princes. The foreign nomadic people started to mingle with the Chinese population after countless invasions. They were quickly sinicized and assimilated by the majority Chinese people as they swiftly adopted the agrarian Chinese way of life but also left their mark on the Chinese societies. But from the late Tang until the present day, the nomadic influences were lost in time, you can compare the Men's Rounded collared robe from early Tang and the late Tang. Early Tang era Round collared Robe were very tight but late era Tang rounded robe were big and loosen very much like the Song dynasty counterpart reflecting the gradual loss of nomadic influences. Same thing goes to the headgear, the Song Dynasty style long eared hat was actually first appeared during the late Tang period .
yes that's correct
umm not really , not entire correct or wrong either just a piece in bigger picture
Apparently the Tang Dynasty also claims to have Zhongyuan origins. I was surprised when they changed their national outfit to Round collared Robe, even the inner robe.
cross-collared robe has a history of at least from the Zhou dynasty, even further, and is that the oldest costume of huaxia has been replaced quite simply. Do you have any documents on the Tang dynasty dress-changing decrees?
The costume change under the Qing, china, and Nguyen dynasty, Vietnam was very obvious.
@@tungnguyenba627 fact that you don`t even understand the term " national outfit" is quite impressive for you to write this cmt , see people nowaday from both goverment agents and civilian wear Vest or Veste does it make Vest become national outfit ??
@@ZhangLee. I also did not offend. The truth can be seen in the Qing Dynasty in China and the Nguyen in Vietnam. Their styles are completely different from those used in the previous centuries. The entire population wears shirts with similar texture, the short length can be different. Although cross-collared robe styles still appear, they are only used for rituals, or high honor in society, on formal occasions (the Nguyen dynasty in Vietnam.
This is different from today's Vest suits. Clothes vary, and vest worn on formal occasions, when you go to work ...
Round collared Robe in the Tang era is not like Vest, worn by all classes, even the inner layer is Round collared Robe.
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Tang Dynasty believed offense is the best defense. Under Tang, great wall was neglected
dont have to defend from the nomads if there are no nomads. 5head move there
@@jonsong4592
true, that is actually the best strategy
@@godzillamothra5983 one of reason is Tang are very familiar with nomadic culture at the north (since they are most likely descendent of XianBei clan from the north).
Han ruling system demand their people stay at fixed location and do agriculture work. This is a very fundamental practices that act as cornerstone for literally everything, culture, policy, government and administration. That is also the very reason why Han cannot control the plain even if they able to wipe everyone out on that land. Because anyone live at the plain will eventually adopt the nomadic culture and deviate from Han. No 'genuine Han' can live there because they cant plant their rice there.
Tang run both nomadic system and han system. The highest level ruler can be referred as Khan (nomadic system) and Emperor (Han system) at the same time. They don't give a shxt about bloodlines and race (a significant trait of nomadic clan). They let nomadic clan handle the military part and let Han people run the administration stuff. Its a hybrid system.
But that is also the reason of their downfall. The trait of nomadic clan being aggressive and robbing manners eventually turn against Tang Empire itself when expansion become too expensive. Nomadic clan do not have terrible gap in social hierachy (Eg: Temujin able to become a clan leader out of nowhere as a slave). That also mean they don't give a fxxk about history and social status. If the leader cant satisfy their need, then they do what they want to achieve it. Tang Empire already encountered countless scene like this (political dogfight within royal family) before their golden age end. They are essentially counting down to their death after the Empire tolerate the pseudo 'self-independence' by their warlord.
The trait from overpowered military class cause the downfall of Tang Empire and it lead to countless coup like this even after they fall. The next 'China' tried to fix this by completely disarming the military class. And here we got Song dynasty as the weakest china in terms of military power, who try to go easypeasy with everyone.
Wow, what a chad, that too with no big atrocities under his belt.
Some suggests Li Tang Monarchs have Toba Sabir/ XianBei blood ties as they are relatives to the Sui dynasty, and the Tobas are more Turkic unlike other Eastern XianBeis. This might explains why ShiMin could Negotiate with Jili Khan directly without an interpreter
Oh, it is actually quite easily traceable. Both Li Shimin'd grand mother and mother were part Xianbei. A lot of intermarriages took place between the noble families. So it's hard to tell exactly how many part xianbei they were. So, Li Shimin could be up to 75% Xianbei and his wife also came from a Xianbei family.
why " some suggest " you use i wonder ?? there was written history record not " some suggest "
@@CoolHistoryBros The thing is even Xianbei itself was extremely diverse genetically, some of them were Caucasians.
@@hwasiaqhan8923 Unlikely among the Duan, MuRong, YuWen & JuQu, BUT within the Tuoba up beyond the Gobi dessert
@@ZhangLee. I got no objection with the Lis to Sui: Yang clan or even to the Tobas and the treaty of WeiShui, but the Turkic part is still an estimation
As a Turkish Turk this is a good video i like to see videos about the Turks in service of Chinese empires.
Yes I'd like to see this as well
In the past we were both friends and enemy.But now we can choose to improve our relationship.😃
Chinese were actually very close with Turk back then.
Fun fact：By the help od turks,xinjiang became a part of tang dy.turks and han Chinese have same ancestors.han Chinese mixed with Asian native people and turks mixed with Asian native people first, but they mixed with white people next. So they looks like white
Sometimes I can understand Turkish people.For most Chinese students, Turk history only means 200 words in our history textbook. The only names we still remembered about ancient Turks were just Ashina Clan and familes. After they pledged loyalty to Taizong Emperor. There were no more any information about Turks in our history Book. I had met a lot of Turkish friends, they always asked me about their ancestors in Chinese history book.But I really can't answer too much, because as we knew, your direct ancestors Ashina families had already become Chinese over 1000 years…
Another great video here, highlighting a lot of details about a well known figure that aren't usually brought up. Great work here. By the way; can anyone contact you guys on Discord? Or is that for Patrons only?
Greetings from Kazakhstan!
Chinese still call themselves 唐人（tang people) even today. China town literally translates to 唐人街(tang people street). In addition, there are huge amount of tang dynasty poem in middle school and high school are required to learn, and there are a lot famous tang dynasty people are required to learn in school too. You can see Chinese love tang dynasty so much.
Tang people = Turkic people
@@hermannboyen5392 if you know Chinese classic literature, a lot of tang dynasty poems worships han dynasty. They idolize Han dynasty, and proudly claim themselves the desandent of Han dynasty.
Ethnic Chinese refers them either as 唐人(tang people) or 漢族 (Han people). Han and Tang dynasties are considered the golden eras of Chinese civilization. In recent years, Tang Dynasty period tv series, movie and online novels are getting very popular. Great research had been conduct to gain accurate information and the portrayal of Tang Dynasty era culture to younger generations.
@Kazuha Itō 伊藤 かずは🇯🇵 real gokturk are closer to Asian like chinese. today's turkey has little relation to real gokturk. They got a fake identity
@@papercat2599 shatuo Turks and gokturks settle and down marry Chinese imperial the oghuz Turks got nothing but claim. Don’t even have their bloodline lol
Thanks for this very informative video.
So is Li Shimin the reason why the Turks migrated to the West and Turkic empires like the Seljuks and Ottomans exist and eventually the country of Turkey exists in Anatolia?? So Li Shimin is partially responsible for the end of the East Roman Empire and the Fall of Constantinople??
@Demir Bey the true Turks of the Turkish Khanate are the ones ruled by the Ashina clan. Before that there were only ‘Turkic’ people migrations to Europe and the Middle EastS
@Demir Bey I don’t refer to random nomads from Central Asia migrating West. I’m specifically saying their is a connection with the Turkish Khanate founded by the Ashina clan that was conquered by Tang Taizong of the Tang China with the Seljuks and Ottomans. Don’t modern Turks consider the Orkhon Inscriptions the earliest example of the Turkish language which is now spoken in Anatolia?
Sanskrits/ ShaTuo stayed & merged into the Han Chinese, royalties adopted surname Li as they "inherited" Tang realm. Others such as Keraites, Naimans become Kazakhs
Actually the han empire was partially responsible for the fall of rome.
The han empire kicked the huns out of China, one group migrated westward and caused havoc in europe. And this groups of huns caused the Germanic tribes to move and attack the romans
@@dearcoolz and history repeated itself with the Turks and the Byzantium. Funny how that happens.
- Wei Zheng's job inteview:
- Emperor Taizong: "Is it true that you advised my brother to kill me?"
- Wei Zheng: "If he had listned to me we wouldn't be having this conversation!"
- Emperor Taizong: "Excellent! You're hired!"
i watch all of your video omg they are the best this was the type of video i wanted to watch
After playing Sekiro two years ago, I was very confused seeing the "Ashina" name pop up under the Turkic people lol
Ashin is a title.
The Ashina tribe are the founders of the Göktürk Khaganate haha
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After the collapse of the Eastern Turkic Khaganate due to the Rise of Yugur-Uigher Khaganate, most eastern Tiele Turks were assimilated into the Tang Chinese. So effectively, the hybrid Chinese Turkic dynasty lived on. Upto today, Southern Chinese call themselves Tang people rather than Han people. It was the Yuan Mongol dynasty that designated the Chinese as Han nationality.
Demir=Temür=iron (ferroum)
Çün=(chun)=factor (agency /being agent of..)
Demirci=Temurçi= ironsmith (temuçin= mongolian)
Deńiz= Thengiz= Sea ( tchengis= mongolian)
Denizci=seaman
Kak-mak= to direct
(Yukarı Kalk) Yukarı Kak= (direct (yourself) up) =Get up
(Kak-der-mak) Kaktırmak= to steer
Bunu Kaktır= steer this ...(Bunu Kalktır)=Bunu Kaldır=lift/remove this ..
Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)= one =fore/ first
Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one directs )= Who's directing
Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning)
Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it
Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning)
(Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose)
Han = director- manager-leader
religious leader=Kohen (who directs us about the future events=Kahin)
Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=the religious manager
Kul =servant
Han Kul'u = The servant of emperor =public servant
Yaban = out of center =Jaban=Japan
Yabancı = the outer of center= outsider=foreigner
(Yaban Halk)=Japon halkı=Japan People=off-center people (just by us) but (2.hun=ni-fun)Nippon people for the Japanese
Bullshit,You do not understand Chinese language,and can not read Chinese ancient history books.
The name of the Han people comes from the Han Dynasty, not the Mongols. You've read too much about fake history. Ancient China was a patriarchal society. They don't care too much about women's ancestry. There is a Chinese saying called "非我族类，其心必异"： It means that different races and we are not people of the same race, so loyalty is suspicious. This sentence is from the Tang Dynasty. The alien in this sentence refers to Turk. "胡无人，汉道昌"： kill all the nomadic barbarians, and let the Han civilization flourish and develop in the local area; This classic saying also comes from the Tang Dynasty. People in the Tang Dynasty never thought they were Turks. The emperor of the Tang Dynasty only had a grandmother who was Xianbei, so there was little nomadic blood. Xianbei people are not Turks. They are nomadic people originating from Northeast China. Turkish history is full of falsehood.
@@Abeturk Wow Mongolian is so similar to my language (Kazakh).
Su=water /水 (Suv)=fluent-flowing Suvu> Sıvı=fluid, liquid
Suv-up =liquefied (~soup)
Suv-mak= to make it flow onwards or upwards (>suvamak)
Suy-mak= to make it flow over
Süv-mek= to make it flow inwards
Sür-mek= to make it flow ON something
Sur-up(şurup)=syrup / Suruppah(chorba)=soup /Suruppat(şerbet)=sorbet /meşrubat=beverage /şarap=wine
Süp-mek= to make it flow outwards / Süp-der-mek>süptürmek>süpürmek=to sweep
Say-mak= to make it flow drop by drop (one by one from the mind) = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer)
Söy-mek= to make it flow out of the mind / Söy-le-mek= to make the sentences flowing through the mind = to say, ~to tell
Sev-mek= to make it flow(pour) from the mind to the heart = to love
Söv-mek=to say whatever's on own mind (~call names)
Süy-mek= to make it flow through (Süyüt> süt= milk)
Soy-mak= to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob ) (Suy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress
(Suy-der-mak)>sıyırmak= ~skinning , ~skimming
Siy-mek= to make it flow downwards / to pee Siyitik>sidik= urine
Sav-mak= ~to make it pour outward /put forward / set forth in >Sahan=the container to pour water
(Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-en-al-mak)>savunulmak=to get being defended
(Sav-eş-mak)1.savaşmak=to pour blood / to shed each other's blood (savaş= war)
2.savuşmak=to get spilled around (altogether/downright)> sıvışmak=~run away in fear
Sağ-mak= ~to make it pour down (Sağanak=downpour)
Sağ-en-mak>Sağınmak= ~to spill it from thought into emotions> ~longing
Sağn-mak>San-mak= ~to get it pour from thought to idea(to arrive at a guess)
Sak-en-mak> Sakınmak =~to ponder hard/ worry out/ beware
Soğ-mak=to penetrate inwards > Soğurmak=~ make it spread in own essence/~to suck
Sok-mak= ~to put/take it (by forcing) inward
Sök-mek= ~take/put it (by forcing) from the inside out (~unstitch/rip out)
Sık-mak = ~to squeeze (by forcing)/tighten (Sıkı= stringent)
Sığ-mak= ~fit inside
Süz-mek=~to make it lightly flow from up to downwards (~to filter, strain out)
Sez-mek=~to make it lightly flow into the mind (~to perceive, to intuit)
Sız-mak=~to get flowed slightly/slowly (~to infiltrate)
Suŋ-mak=to extend forwards (presentation, exhibition, to offer)
Süŋ-mek=to get expanded outwards (sünger=sponge) (süngü=bayonet)
Sıŋ-mak=to reach by extending up or forwards
Siŋ-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide out)
Söŋ-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to get extinguished)
mak/mek>(emek)=process/exertion
al-mak =~to have via
et-mek=~ to make
der-mek= ~to provide
en=own diameter
eş=partner
Tan= the dawn /旦
Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of)
Tanılamak=tanı-la-mak= diagnose /to identify
Tanınmak = tanı-en-mak= to be known/recognized
Tanıtmak = tanı-et-mak=to make known /to introduce
Tanışmak=tanı-eş-mak= to get to know each other =(to meet for the first time)
Danışmak= to get information through each other
Tıŋı= the tune (timbre) /调 /ட்யூன்
Tıŋ-mak=to react verbally
Tıŋı-la-mak= to get the sound out >(Tınlamak=~reacting /answering /~to take heed of)
Tiŋ-mek=to get at the silence >Dinmek= to calm down / to get quiescent
Tiŋi-le-mek=to get the sound in >(Dinlemek= to listen / 听)
Çığ (chuw) = snowslide / 雪崩
Çığ-ur-mak =çığırmak= ~to scream / ~to sing shouting
Çığırı > Jigir > Shiur> Şiir = Poetry / 诗歌
Cır-la-mak > Jırlamak > to squeal / shouting with a shrill noise
Çığırgı > Jırgı> Shuirgı> Şarkı = Song / 曲子
Çağ-ur-mak =çağırmak= calling - inviting / 称呼 / 邀请
Çağrı = Calling / 称呼
Uç > ~up-side (endpoint) (o-bir-uç=burç=extreme point= bourge) / tepe=~top-point
(Uç-mak)= to fly (~go up)
(Uç-a-var)> Uçar=it flies (has a chance to fly / arrives by flying)
(Uç-ma-bas)> uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying / doesn't bother to fly)
(Uç-der-ma-bas) >uçturmaz> uçurmaz= doesn't fly it (doesn't make it fly)
(Uç-eş-ma-bas)>uçuşmaz= doesn't (all)together fly
(Uç-al-ma-bas)>uçulmaz= no one has gotten to fly /~no one's allowed to fly
İç > ~in-side (inner)
(İç-mek) = to drink (include inside) / İç-der-mek> içermek= to contain
(Bu Adam Çay İç-e-er)>> Bu adam çay içer=This man gets to drink tea>This man drinks tea then
(Aç-mak)= to open (to see/show inside)
(Aş-mak)=~to exceed /go beyond
Dış> ~out-side
(Dış-a-aş-mak)>Taşmak =~overflow
Taş =stone (portable rock)
Taşı-mak =~to take (moving) it to a different place
Taşı-et-mak =Taşıtmak> to make it moved to a different place
Taşı-en-mak =Taşınmak> to move oneself to a different place
Der-mek= (~to provide) to set the layout by bringing together (der-le-mek= to compile)
Dar-mak= to bring into a different order by disrupting the old (thara-mak=to comb)
Dur-mak= to keep being present/there (~to remain/~to survive)
thuror =permanent /(bogha-thor>boğatur>bahadır(hero)>ghadhur>hazır=existent>ready
Dur-der-mak> durdurmak= ~to stop
Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it become a roll)
Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis ( Thörmek>old meaning)- to stir /to mix (current meaning)
(döngü)törüş/törüv=tour (törüv-çi / törüv-giş=tourist / thörük halk=mixed people among themself
(Thöre-mek)>türemek= to get created a new layout/form by coming together in the same medium (tür= kind / type)
Töre=the order established over time= custom/tradition > (torah=sacred order) (tarih=history)
Thör-et-mek=türetmek= to create a new layout combining them= to derive
Thör-en-mek>dörünmek= to rotate oneself /(2. to turn by oneself)
Thör-en-mek>>dörn-mek>Dönmek= to turn oneself
(Dön-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something
(Dön-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something
(Dön-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ to transform
Eğ-mek=to turn something the other way or to a curved shape> eğmek= to tilt/ to bend
Eğ-al-mek=Eğilmek=to get being inclined/ to be bent over
Eğ-et-mek=Eğitmek=to educate
Eğir-mek= to turn around itself by bending it or make it turn to another way in a specified time =~ to spin (eğri =curve /awry)
Evir-mek=to make it turn upside or turn up in other way over a specified time =~to invert /make it turn to something different in a specified time
Eğir-al-mek=Eğrilmek= to become a skew / to become twisted
Evir-al-mek=Evrilmek= to get a conversion/transformation over time
(evrim=evolution evren=universe)
Uğra-mak= to get (at) a place or a situation for a specified time> uğramak= drop by/ stop by
Uğra-eş-mak=to stop altogether by into each other for a specified time> uğraşmak=to strive/ to deal with
Uğra-et-mak= uğratmak = to put in a situation for a specific time (uğru = the way of)
Öğre-mek=to get (at) a status or a level / to get an accumulation within a certain time
Öğre-en-mek=to get (at) a knowledge or a knowledge level at a certain time> öğrenmek= to learn
Öğre-et-mek=to have somebody get (at) a knowledge / level (at a certain time)= to teach
Türkçe öğretiyorum =I am teaching turkish
İngilizce öğreniyorsun = You are learning english
Öğreniyorsun = You are learning > Öğren-i-yor-u-sen= You try to learn
Öğreniyorum = I am learning
Öğreniyordum = I was learning
Öğreniyormuşum=I heard/realized that I was learning
Öğrenmekteyim=I have been learning / I am in (the process of) learning
Öğrenmekteydim=I had been learning / I was in (the process of) learning
Öğrenmekteymişim=I heard/noticed that I had been learning
Öğrenirim =~ I learn (then) > Öğren-e-er-im= I get to learn
Öğrenirdim= ~I used to learn / I would learn (~I‘d get (a chance) to learn )
Öğrenirmişim=I heard/noticed that I would be learning ( I realized I’ve got (a chance) to learn)
Öğreneceğim= I will learn
Öğrenecektim= I would gonna learn (I would learn)
Öğrenecekmişim=I heard/ realized that I would have to learn
Öğrendim = I learned
Öğrenmiştim= I had learned
Öğrenmiş oldum (öğrenmiş durumdayım)= I have learned
Öğrendiydim= I remember having learned /I remember such that I've learned
Öğrenmişim =I noticed that I've learned
Öğrendiymişim=I heard that I’ve learned -but if what I heard is true
Öğrenmişmişim=I heard that I've learned -but what I heard didn't sound very convincing
Öğreniyorumdur =I guess/likely I am learning
Öğreniyordurum =I think/likely I was trying to learn
Öğreniyormuşumdur=As if I was probably learning
Öğreneceğimdir= I think that I will probably learn
Öğrenecektirim=I guess/likely I would gonna learn
Öğrenecekmişimdir=As if I would probably have to learn
Öğrenecekmiştirim=Seems that I would probably be learned
Öğrenmişimdir = I think that I have probably learned
Öğrenmiştirim= I guess/likely I had learned
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Taizong was smart ,he was like Caesar.....
I thoroughly enjoy your videos, and your timeline across the top is great. Is a printed copy available?
Your English is amazing!
6:45 me: "Why is that guy holding the scroll so- Oh! That's one of the archers!" Nice asset reusage.
Ashina shibobi sounds like a Japanese name
Coincidentally, an Ashina clan was also one of the oldest and famous Japanese clans and the self-declared arch enemy of Masamune Date, one of the last Daimyos that opposed the unification of Japan under Toyotomi Hideyoshi
And Aisin Gioro sounds Italian, yet is Manchu.
@@andro7862 Ashina is the royal clan name of the Turkic khaganate , therefore my own name is from a Turkic hero who wanted to assasinate chineese emperror(Li Chih) with his 40 man and died trying, who is known as Ashina Chieh she shuai , 阿史那結社率 /阿史那结社率 ( Shibobis brother ), // mentioned as the rebellion maker in the vid
Ashina and Bumin are the founders of the turkic empires
@@turukatrak1721Ashina is also one of the turkic clan that loyally served the tang dynasty.
8:09 Jiesheshuai's assasination attempt became a very popular subject in Turkey after a famous historical fiction novel about him by Nihal Atsız. He even created a new Turkish name for him and called him "Kürşad". Which became a popular name for male children.
Wassup, Attila!
Kür Şad is not reaaally a "made-up" name. The probable transliteration of Jiesheshuai is between Kuru Şad Kürü Şad etc. range.
It's pretty funny because "Han" Chinese especially in the North are likely a massive mix of Turkic, Mongol, Jurchen, and Chinese people. Chinese meaning the people birth-place of Han Identity which I believe is called "Zhong yuan". At this point "Han" is just a title for an agrarian lifestyle as China has had so much contact with Turks and Mongols. The Western "Xia" not to be confused with the Xia Dynasty was Xianbei or Mongol in origin and eventually became Chinese. Same for the later Tang dynasty (not to be confused with Tang) as they were ruled by the Shatuo Turkic tribe. A tribe that fractured from the Western Gokturks and under the rule of the Tang dynasty slowly became more and more Han before eventually simply viewing themselves as Han. Same happened to any foreign ruling dynasty besides the Yuan.
Thanks for informations
Chieh-shih-shuai :)
The Tang Dynasty used some Turkish soldiers. But the Tang Dynasty is a complete Chinese dynasty, and the Turkish tribes are not all Turkish of Turkish origin. The first people were a small people. As for the Chinese and the Mongols, they are two very large peoples.
The Mongols were only one of hundreds of tribes that surrendered to the Han people, and the Mongols stood out until the civil wars of the Jin and Song Dynasties in China had no time to manage nomadic tribes, The Mongols dispatched all the troops to lay down a small town on the Chinese frontier and acquired a large number of Han armor and weapons. It was not until 20 years later that Genghis Khan was independent from China at the age of 49, and then conquered Central Asia and Eastern Europe before he dared to fight with the Jin Dynasty. Finally, the Mongolian Khan took the Han surname and implemented the Chinese writing system. The etiquette gained the recognition of the Han nationality in the north before conquering the Song Dynasty!
You need to realise there is Turkish (which anatolia former ottomans)
There is Turkic.
Turkic is a large group who were originally from mongolian steppes. Throughout history they moved west. But while being there they fought mostly with chinese. Huns, hephtalites, they all were turkic or proto turkic people.
Well let me tell you Turks were not small like chinese. Mongols and Turks at certain time you could not distinguish between them.
Turks are way more spread than you might think.
Such an interesting topic :-)
Greetings from Turkey
Hey Ankara, I knew this one would catch your eye.
Turkey is not orient, they western
In the past we were both friends and enemy.But now we can choose to improve our relationship.😃
Turkey no any relationship with China in Tang
Gok Turk not the Turkey
Turkey is fake Turkic, they just European
@@changlong6549 you mean Asian not European they just have a small land in europe (eastern thrace) but they are asian not european
The video of the invasion to Goguryeo by Tang Tai-jong in 645 is also very anticipated! 😆
Emperor Taizu of Han-liu bang
Emperor Shizu of Han-liu xiu
Emperor Liezu of Han-liu bei
Hate that Invasion, I'm a huge fan of Goguryeo
When did the An Lushan rebellion happen? And when did the battle of Talas occur? Was it during his reign or after that?
long after the golden age
Xağanat каганат
Rich gifts and encouraging words...
Little has changed.
Thanks for a cool video
interesting
TIL the court historians were supposed to work without the emperor looking at what they write about him. Is it really the standard practice?
It is common practice until this Emperor Taizong breaks the rule, which is seen to be the most significant failure and stain of his reign. Before that, the strict rule is that the historians keeps the record and cannot be intervened by any power. And the job of historian in China is most of the time a hereditary job. One thing worthy noting is that in China there are mainly two types of historians, type one is who simply write the record (the raw material) of what happened, and type 2 is who coverts the raw records and other materials into history books. Usually, when a new dynasty overthrow the old one, the new dynasty will inherit the raw records of the old dynasty, and assign a historian to write a history book about the old dynasty. So in this sense, what Emperor Taizong did is a direct modification of the raw record and it is inevitably going to bias the later history book writing (although after many centuries), and that is why this is considered to be having a very negative influence.
@@jialinlu5771 In this respect it's not very Chinese as it defeats the purpose of the historical recording system.
I'm not sure if I would consider Tang Taizong as the GOAT emperor of China. Definitely a top, but I would put Emperor Guangwu of Han or KangXi ahead
Ashina's appearance was strange: his hair is yellow, his complexion was completely red, and his eyes were lapis blue.
- Yang Jian
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According to Sinologist Penglin Wang, some Gokhturk had mixed west Eurasian-featured (Wusun/Tocharian/Yuezhi/Saka/Askuzai) traits such as blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin due to absorbing some Indo-European elements. The Gokhturk were described as white on several occasions.
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Zhu Hong and Zhang Quan-chao studied Gokhturk crania from several sites of Inner Mongolia and noticed that anthropological features of studied Ashina crania show that the racial type is closely related to the modern East-Europeans, and some physical characteristics of those skulls are closer to modern Mongols, Manchu and Han Chinese.
why you list Saka and Askuzai when they are the same word in different language? lol
Anyone knows the Gokturks are a mix of indo-iranian and Siberian tribes just like modern turks.
Ashina literally means Blue/sky in iranic(assena) which has the same meaning as Gok/kok in gokturk.
@@teovu5557 Askuzai and Saka is different. Educate yourself brookie
@@rakyat47 The name Sakā was used by the ancient Persian to refer to all the Iranian nomadic tribes living to the north of their empire, including both those who lived between the Caspian Sea and the Hungry steppe, and those who lived to the north of the Danube and the Black Sea. The Assyrians meanwhile called these nomads the Ishkuzai or Askuzai , and the Ancient Greeks called them Skuthai (Ancient Greek: Σκύθης Skúthēs, Σκύθοι Skúthoi, Σκύθαι Skúthai).
You welcome.
All these terms comes from the Indo-European word for shooter or archer which was (s)kewd or *Skuδa.
@@teovu5557 Scythian Saka Wusun Yuezhi Proto Turkic=> People + Sibirian= ashina
@@temirbug_han No, Turkic are a combination of the IRANIC Scythians/Saka/Wusun and other indo-European nomads with Siberian Turkic speaking nomadic warriors like the Xiongnu(Huns) and some Mongolic and Tungusic mixed in.
Nothing wrong with being a mixed tribed of bad ass warriors who nearly conquered half the world.
The facts in in the Turkic peoples DNA/Genes its literally Half White/ Half Asian in Gokturk graves and modern turks more white in the west and more Asian in the East but always mixed.
Where are you coming from, man? Your knowledge in Asian history is impressive yet your accent doesn’t sound super East or Southeast Asian.
I think he sounds very Southeast Asian, actually. If I had to guess, I'd say he's S.E. Asian ethnic Chinese, maybe Singaporean or Malaysian Chinese
Sounds like a Taiwan bro.
@@henli-rw5dw I later watched a video of his where he talked about the Majapahit Empire and pronounced everything super-genuinely-not in a way that an English- and Chinese-speaker would. That just makes me even more certain he’s S.E. Asian Chinese-most likely Indonesian
@@henli-rw5dw Idk I heard Taiwanese people and I don't think they sound like that when speaking English.
@@danshakuimo But his Chinese sounds Taiwan.
He's actually Han and Xianbei mixed.
Xianbei might be a little too broad. The Li family had blood ties specifically to the noble Tuoba (Tabgatch) family through marriage. The Tuoba might have been Turkic or Mongolic by different accounts.
Only 1/32 Xianbei blood from his mother-side grandma.…
@@haydentse6526 Why 1/32 ?
@@joerogue231 1/8 of Xianbei descent and 7/8 of Han descent.
@@OK-qe4dr I've heard he only had 1/32 of Xianbei blood.
The Marcus Aurelius of the East.
cool
9:05 gamer moment
We would also like you to tell the story of Chieh Shi Shuai's 39 soldiers raiding the Tang palace.
I thought you are going to talk about lengendary general Li Jing, cause he can defeated a large army of Eastern Turkic Khaganate with only a small cavalry army, so that he got the praise from Li Shimin himself
And another legendary general Su Dinfang who conquer Western Turkic Khaganate
I want to know about that too.
After battle of Talas 751
No Chinese soldier ever stepped into central asia.
@@1212-m6b Tang Chinese soldier defeat Umayyad Arab soldier twice in battle of Ferghana 715 and battle of Aksu 717
And yes no Chinese soldier ever step into central Asia again after An Lu Shan rebellion but not because battle of Talas
The Xianbei were not Turkic people, a proto-jurchen people perhaps. Or am I missing something?
3:36 Mr Xi are you listening?
I confused that person as a ming dude because he looked like a ming dude
All chinese look alike😂😂
Allow me a simple suggestion. Add 漢字 for Chinese names. In Japanese, and I would assume Korean, they aren't read with Chinese pronunciation and it becomes quite difficult to find information about them in those sources.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will try to do that as much as possible.
@@CoolHistoryBros If it is technically difficult in the graphics, you might try and give a list in the explanatory text under the video. Appreciate the effort and very interesting videos since Asian history is pretty much glossed over in Western education.
Wasn’t the mother of Li Shiming of Xianbei origin?
he would happy to cut your head if you ask him he is a Xianbei
His mother is his father, not his paternal line in ancient times, so he is Han nationality.
according to your title，i can write another title，a sino-viet-jurchen-mongol-turkic tang dynasty
Why mad? Tang is sino- turkic. Almost 20% of country is made up of turks and the rest han and only 1 to 2 % arabs and other nationalities.
Wasnt Li family was mix heritage? Were they really Han Chinese?
It's all explained in the first episode.
There are some Xianbei ancestry, but the Li family's Paternity lineage were Han and they themselves firmly insist they are Han, generally only non-Chinese always like to say they are not Han 😂 because the Tang Dynasty was too powerful and they were jealous, as Chinese we are used to it
Does it matter? What matters is that they spoke Chinese, practiced Chinese culture and administration
@@tk9060 No. Just curious. It was just a question I asked.
@@Samperor OK. Apologies
Eastern turkic khaganate ? they were called gokturks word turkic is a lingustic term calling them as turkic khaganate sounds like calling russia the slavic empire or calling other chinese dynasties as sinotic empire
Whether you like or not these ancient warriors were speaking old Turkish and were calling themselves Turk. Their empire was called Gok Turk Empire( Sky Turk Empire)... Ancient monuments with Turkish inscriptions are still in Orkhon Valley... These people are the ancestors of Turks and this is official history.
Chanced upon this video. Nice animations but factually incorrect...the only “Sino-Turkic” link is the early threat posed by the Eastern Turkic Khaganate, which is swiftly removed by Emperor Taizong.
Emperor Taizong’s paternal grandma Duchess Dugu, is of Xianbei origin, not Turkic.
In response to the Eastern Turkic Khaganate’s incursion in 626 (led by Ashina Duobi, their last Khan), right away his ascension as Emperor, Taizong launched a military campaign against Eastern Turkic Khaganate in the Winter of 629 and succeeded in capturing Ashina Duobi by spring 630.
Emperor Taizong eliminated this early menace to his empire but spared Ashina Doubi’s life and brought him to Chang’an where he was given a mansion to live out the rest of his life (arguably laying down Tang practice of providing generous treatment towards the rulers of conquered nations).
Theses defeated rulers and their retinue settled in Chang’an over time and helped make the capital city and the Tang empire more cosmopolitan etc. Their descendants still live in Chang’an (modern-day Xi’an).
Benevolence breeds benevolence. 👍👍👍
Tang Dynasty was the greatest Chinese empire in history also the most golden age. What about Manchurians dynasty in modern times? they also as the second was 😄
The Qing owned the most land, but they caused China to slide into backwardness and many Chinese still blame the Qing for the humiliations at the hand of the British and other European nations.
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I am a half of manchu people.But i don’t like yuan and qing dy.they made China weaker than Europe and America.
@@yxb9182 Yuan you mean Mongols? surely, China under Mongolians occupied at that times
Troll op lol
@@teukurajahitam8225 Yuan is a Mongolian.
Is it true that the Li family of the Tang dynasty is not Han Chinese?
Not ture. "Han Chinese" is a modern concept.
They are half blood of the stepp tribe "Xianbei" and the Han Chinese "Li".
Li Shimin had a grandmother who was Xianbei
All Chinese either settled Han or Chinese steppe nomads are Huaxia or descendants of Xia.
@@tedchandran Seems like that. Zhao state rooted its from northern normad and became Zhou's relevant vassal.
uploader ,Tang NOT a sino-Turk empire , Tang is CHINESE or HANESE.
Tang is Typical Chinese Dynasty ,Tang royal is Hanese ,less Xianbei genetic from mother side.not the Turk
less Turk people or werrior etc join the Tang but not mean Tang is Turkic or half Turkic, also some Korean or Janpnese join the Tang, is it means Tang is "Sino-Korean " or " Sino-Janpnese" empire? also not all of in nomadic ethnic in North China called "Turkic" , only Gok Turkic is Turkic , Xianbei not Turk ,mongol not Turk, Uyghur not Turk.
hey Cool History Bros, can you be sure that "Tian" comes from "Tengri" but not "Tengri" comes from "Tian"? Or they just have common ancestor long long ago? Anyway, one thing can be sured is that "Tian" had been in Chinese for a very long time because it is a basic word that been used everywhere, but nomads didn't have concrete record.
I never claimed that Tian comes from Tengri.
Tian came from Turkic TAN (means SKY). Tian+zi came from TURKİC TAN+RI. OLD chinese R=Z in Turkic langunae same as OGHUR, OGHUZ, ZHOU...
Buddhism brought them to India -China-Korea- Japan- America - Europe with T- bone ox cow stakes Stock exchange into or from Confucianism. Now I have to Choose Taoism due to too many contaminated intervene events by them. Korean- Expression teach how they started, Wang- TTa- Dang- Hat- Da= They caught the Wang family to establish power in the east. And their current ground is gone to air space.
The Aryan Kushans: So we want our land from you in western China and western Mongolia
didn't taizong write a book for his successors to read, so that successors would continue to rule just as good?
Turk (Tujue)
Tang Empire was the best in China.
Thank you so much! I learned some interesting things. About the Turks, I would like to add something. First of all, the Ashina are thought to be an Iranic Tribe, that either conquered the Turkish speaking tribes or joined them peacefully in a confederation. The Ashina were probably related to the WUSUN-Tribe that lived around the Altai and Tian Shan. According to the New Book of Tang, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation. The Tiele People or Gaoche were originally called Dingling People. The Dingling originally lived on the bank of the Lena River in the area west of Lake Baikal. So it was the union of Siberians and Indo-Europeans, that brought about the Koekturks.
Ashina were mongolic
@@barguttobed no turkic
(Late) Ashina were Turkic, probably using the legacy of a long-dead Scythian clan name, but thats the furthest stretch that can be said about their "iranicness". They spoke Turkic. All of their steles are in Turkic stating they were Turks, stressing their khaganate is only for Turks.
(Wusun/ Scythian= Proto Turks)
+ Sibirian= Ashina/ Gokturk
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306You mean the Persian language used by the Turks
I wouldn’t call Tang a Sino-Turkic empire, else you may as well call the ottomans a Turkic-Slavic empire.
😂😂Turco what empire??🤣🤦♂️
@@papazataklaattiranimam A lot of Ottoman elites were Slavs and Bulgarians, including their sultana, the janissaries were also majorly of Bulgarian and of other Eastern European descent not Turks.
@@hwasiaqhan8923
I'm not defending accuracy of the video title, but you have the funniest logic I've ever seen in my life.Also, you 100% misunderstood what was meant in the video.
@@papazataklaattiranimam I understood it very well, the Queen of Britain was once also the Queen of India, this doesn’t make the British empire a British-Indian empire. Similar scenarios happened a lot in history.
@@hwasiaqhan8923 and the current British Royal Family is actually German descent family, yet it doesn't make Britain a Briton-Germanic Kingdom
I gave you a like but it's not nice, Bro, to shame fat people.
İn Turkic History, ZHOU dynasty acceptable as TURKİC OK+HUZ (OGHUZ) state. And WU WANG = OK+UZ KANG, OGHUZ HAN. not only Tabgach or Han. HAN= TURKİC RULER FAMİLY TİTLE like fatih sultan mehmet HAN.
Your Turkey history base on forged
in the history ,Chinese no any relationship with you Turkey
Turkey and Greek from same ancenstor ,just European , fake turkic
@@changlong6549 I really don't know why these Armenian and Greek mixedblood people always declare they are real Turks😂
Xia was Xiongnu
@@啊对对对-v6fwtf bro😂
@@Willxdianawe say Asian Hun Empire
thanks from turkey
Sugar, Sweets, Alcohols from grains were their founding empire wealths.
能不能学一下什么是谥号什么是庙号
Make a Trung sisters or china invasion of vietnam plese
Its more appropriate to call it Trung Rebellion, as Nam was part of the traditional 9Han states: Jiao Zhou til Zhao Song Dynasty
@@hyltoniali257 satanic corona chinavirus
@Em gái Linh Ka It’s Italian 2019 Sept vieti
@@hyltoniali257 china burn in hell, jesus is king
@@emgailinhka6979 Jesus would love how China is helping the poor. Corona virus came from Europe in new studies. LOL mad China hater that China is rising to the top.
when is your three kingdoms? XD
tang is a han dynastry, it conquered the some of the lands occupied by turkies, it does not make it a han-turkey dynastry
Demir=Temür=iron (ferroum)
Çün=(chun)=factor (agency /being agent of..)
Demirci=Temurçi= ironsmith (temuçin= mongolian)
Deńiz= Thengiz= Sea ( tchengis= mongolian)
Denizci=seaman
Kak-mak= to direct
(Yukarı Kalk) Yukarı Kak= (direct (yourself) up) =Get up
(Kak-der-mak) Kaktırmak= to steer
Bunu Kaktır= steer this ...(Bunu Kalktır)=Bunu Kaldır=lift/remove this ..
Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)= one =fore/ first
Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one directs )= Who's directing
Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning)
Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it
Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning)
(Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose)
Han = director- manager-leader
religious leader=Kohen (who directs us about the future events=Kahin)
Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=the religious manager
Kul =servant
Han Kul'u = The servant of emperor =public servant
Yaban = out of center =Jaban=Japan
Yabancı = the outer of center= outsider=foreigner
(Yaban Halk)=Japon halkı=Japan People=off-center people (just by us) but (2.hun=ni-fun)Nippon people for the Japanese
You can improve on your Rrrr pronunciation. A bit too much trill
I think our friend is Indonesian Chinese, hence such pronunciation of the R.
He's awesome with his pronunciation of Chinese names AND Austronesian/Indonesian/Malay names which helps us students of history in knowing the right pronunciation of the various names.
Calling it sino Turkic is a far stretch .
Are u trying to say that turks are not Asian?
The later Tang was a turkic dynasty, look up Li Keyong
@@ChrisJClark-ih2oo . no
@@Ultranety . Nah lol rebellion does not make it turkic
@@changchadchanamdong2668 shatou Turks ruled 5 dynasties of China lmao. Coping hard now. The elites were All Turkic.
Tengeri khan
Tengri KAGAN(KEHAN)
Brilliant King..but is it true that china had been ruled by barbarians or non-han half of their total history.
The Han ethnicity is sort of an artificial ethnicity where many non-Han and "barbarians" became Han through assimilation and cultural adoption. And many of the so called "barbarians" were actually quite advanced, and made up a large numbers of Chinese people in ancient times. For example, the largest kingdom of the Warring States period, the Chu Kingdom, had a native population of mostly non-Han people and the kingdom itself was considered quasi-barbarian like.
@@Intranetusa there’s no such term as Han in warring periods. Chu were just not central China people. Han refer to much bigger areas. Every one who once lived in Han dynasties. Even back then Han dynasty had people with some nomadic background and people with biyue . That composition of gene remains the same to the modern day Han Chinese. Race just referring to a group of people when the term first invented. Han Chinese is the same Han Chinese when the term first started.
@@papercat2599 During the Warring States period, the people who were later called the Han were the people of the central plains kingdoms. The Chu were originally non-Han people but eventually were assimilated into the Han category. The composition of genes of what is considered Han does not remain the same, since the integration of Austro-Asiatic Yue people in South China, Indo-Europeans in Western China, and the integration of northern nomadic people of the steppes and Manchuria have significantly changed Han genetics. They did a study on genetic differences among the Han people, and it varied significantly according to region - as different as a person from Korea or Japan.
@@Intranetusa how is it possible for chu, to be non Han. When Chu doesn’t even exist in Han dynasties period? Han never main central plan people. Han is everyone that’s within the empire. You don’t even make any sense. At this point you just making your own version history. Also no Manchu and Mongol leave pretty much no mark on modern Han gene pool. Because the Han population is so dominant throughout the history. The genetic structure of northern Han stays the same for 3000 years. Way before Mongol and Manchu exist. This is literally a well known scientific research. Check this website, also don’t try to to embarrass yourself anymore.
@@papercat2599 No, Han is not simply everyone within the empire. Are foreigners Han? Are barbarian nomads inside the empire Han? Of course not. The Han Dynasty created the name Han for people who followed a certain culture and originated from the central plains. Before the Han Dynasty, the Han people were just the people of the Central Plains. The word Han can be retroactively applied to people of the Central Plains, and the Chu people are not central plains people. You claim Northern Han genes stay the same for 3000 years? Stop making embarassing claims. Modern Southern Han are much closer to the original Han people in genes and language. Southern languages actually resemble ancient Chinese languages while northern languages like Mandarin were influenced by medieval nomadic barbarian languages. Also, the genetic difference between Northern Han and Southern Han is significant - like the difference between southern Han and Korean. The Northern part of China was invaded and taken over by northern steppe people for many centuries starting with the fall of the Jin Dynasty, 16 kingdoms, Sui-Tang era, Northern Jin Dynasty, Yuan Dynasty, and Qing Dynasty.
So Mulan also Chinese by default now，天可汗
Mulan was actually nomadic in blood if she was a real person. She comes from a country with nomadic background. Who acts like Han Chinese.
@@papercat2599 that is also the convenient way many assume for separating early Han from later Han because early Han had more Northern ppls assimilating adopting Han surnames and virtues long before the Han Dynasty，as it had been the Han cultural sphere and not a bloodline specific to a locale，as cultural assimilation by choice had been prominent even before the Shang period；interestingly many Han surnames bear traces of nomadic ancestry，tho that is another rabbit hole in itself
Goguryeo is never Korean history. It’s like saying the Mongolian empire is part of Chinese history.
@@samuelmonge1656 Because Korean people never resided across the Yalu river until late 1900s, and the descendant of those people who fled to China now live at the Korean minority community of Yanbian.
Sorry for you, the first Korean nation was in liaodong peninsula. To your logic, the chinese never resided across the north side of yangtze river.
@@silversurfer2977 Do you think all the Koguryo nobles who migrated to southern China will think they are Korean?
@@知-k3q its not midrating. It was captived.
@@知-k3q do you think japanese who migrated to china will think they are japanese?
tang dynasty is han chinese dynasty，turkic is just conquered people
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Nothing about Turks , actually closer to Mongolian .
How the fuck even that be possible kid work hard read more and learn more about Turkic people ;))
Turks and Mongols not same
@@volkanozturkmen6245 Tang's emperors had ancestors (linked by mothers) of Xianbei whose y chromosome is C haplogroup same as Mongolians. So not Turks. Turks' first king is Scythian with Y chromosome of haplogroup R1a and of course he ruled a mixed group of people with haplogroup C and Q. So I said not Turks but Mongolians.
According to the logic of your Turks, I can't understand it at all. It has nothing to do with the Turks, but you have to come to recognize your ancestors.
Turk really problematic since then
Why ? 😄
as if china wasn't