No Akomplice fight director in theatre and fight choreo teacher. Uhhh do yo think knights exist in the modern world buddy? Wake up you're not in mordor
@@venividivici6738 I'm making a different point midwit. Astronauts and astronomers have clearly defined job roles whereas 'knight' is far more broadly defined, therefore to answer the question "do knights exist in the modern day" you first have to arrive at a working definition of knight. Let me know if you need me to dumb that down further for you.
one of the things I hate about hollywood swordfighting is a significant portion seems to be 'dramatically hitting blades against eachother' instead of actual "I'm trying to kill you' fighting.
@@sugardaddy4714 lol Olympic fencing is to realistic sword fight as kunfu movies to real fighting. Realistic swrod fights can be made awesome. But movie choreographers dont have the knowledge nor the incentive to transition. It also requires more time and practice. Go check a video on adorea olomouc channel. Thay good demosntrations of what an actual fight might look like.
I think part of what makes the Princess Bride fencing duel so good is that it really leans into that and doesn't even try to seem realistic. Like, the fight is just something that's happening in the background and it's really about the back-and-forth they're having.
Well not really, remember she's a master of stage fighting, not real fighting. She's not trained on how to kill people properly, she's trained in making fight scenes look flashy (which is exactly what these movies do) so she's not in a position to criticise
@@wulfrache No, she never calls herself a fight master. She doesn't give any of her own credits, actually. They are displayed on screen by Wired. Besides that, please tell us about the inaccuracies.
Yeah except brad Pitt is holding his shield behind his back for like half of the fight for no apparent reason making it completely useless. He might as well just throw it at Eric bana.
@@chelseal8448 Well, in a historical sense. The whole idea in that form of combat, was to get over the top of your opponents shield..thus delivering a lethal strike to the neck, or shoulder...or head. But as the expert said, the shield was most definitely...not just a defensive tool, but an extremely effective offensive weapon.
@@Bjarku I think the point of that was to show that it was a huge mismatch. As good as Hector was, Achilles was the absolute best and he was showing that off and playing with Hector to humiliate him in front his whole city watching.
I'd prefer if they actually brought someone on who had a clue about actual sword fighting. That is not this person. Go watch her "sword fighting" videos, a couple preschoolers with sticks in the playground could come up with better choreography. Nobody calls her a "Fight Master" but herself.
THAT, WAS, *AWESOME* , THAT WAS _EXACTLY_ THE STUFF I LOVE SEEING, YES! Please bring back Mrs. Traister again for more cool fight breakdown scenes, that was really good!
@@Rokkman3 OMG you do realize not every Fight historian is an actual expert in performing those said arts, the best way to put it simple is the difference between an astronaut and an astronomer, get it? If not you don't belong in these type of videos
i do believe you mean "Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next." :D
Man, these comments are insufferable. Just one continuous stream of “Ummm ackshually.” It’s awful to see people so eager to over-criticize and be pedantic with someone who clearly has a lot of knowledge of technique and history. This lady is awesome. Please bring her back!
Well she teaches stage combat and she got a lot of stuff just flat wrong eg. ‘You can’t hold onto the end of someone else’s sword with your hand’ you absolutely can. Friction makes it almost impossible to just pull it out of the person’s hand.
You have to go deep to find those kinds of people. I wouldn’t have seen them if you didn’t advertise them. But I guess you want likes for the popular opinion.
She has no idea what she is talking about. That is why all she can do is say the obvious things that are going on. She could tell you what's going on wrong if she actually knew lol.
As a fencing coach for over 10 years, the fencing blades are "epees" not "foils" in the James Bond bit. The gauntlet of a fencing glove is often closed with velcro and there is a small opening for the body cord (which connects to the epee for scoring) to exit. Blades do occasionally find their way into that hole and draw blood. Bruising, small cuts, and "road rash" are common injuries in sport fencing. One time when I was just started out, I accidentally thrusted my epee all the way up someone's arm through the hole in their gauntlet. "Halt"(meaning "stop") was called immediately and the ref and I checked on my opponent to make sure he was OK. He was fine; we kept fencing after he closed his gauntlet a little tighter. It happens. Fencing is still statistically one of the safest sports.
Movies pretend women can't swordfight; some screenwriters defend that with saying that women can't lift swords WIRED gets a female sword fight master to talk about representations in movies & shows Power move.
@@Ora_ twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1212905702861217794 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And it's not like there's any equal, or authentic, gender ratio between male and female swordfighters in movies of any setting.
thb what makes you sword master? I really doubt she has much experience in practice, let alone real fighting. "And it's not like there's any equal, or authentic, gender ratio between male and female swordfighters in movies of any setting." - why would there be equal ratio?
@@polygon2745 Its a fight choreography group, not a actual martial art organization of any kind. Its in their FAQ section, "The SAFD is the Society of American Fight Directors, an organization of dedicated artists whose purpose is to promote safety and foster excellence in the art of performing, teaching, and directing staged combat/theatrical violence." As Joe said, it is she is not an "actual fight expert" or whatever he calls it, just someone who knows a bit and probably has some limited experience with the actual martial art. Honestly I think they should have made it a bit more clear but otherwise she obviously has some, if limited, experience with historical sword fighting.
23:45 those are epees and not foils. The gloves also have a hole that a wire passes through to connect to the weapon to register the hits and the "sleeve" is separated and closed with velcro (to make easier to put on, take off). Blade tips can go through this.
I think it makes sense for the Jedi to have done a poor job teaming up on Maul, since they were established in the film to have not fought other lightsaber users in anger for generations.
Rob Roy ending - it's also set up earlier in the story as being completely in his character to do this. ("First cut?" *cuts himself on challengers blade* "Well done.")
WOW there is a lot of sexism in these comments! YIKES! I thought Christina Traister really excellently broke down parts about these clips in ways I haven't seen before (having watched a number of sword-specialists break down many of the same ones). I for one would love to see more of her!
To be honest she did terrible job with Star Wars. She shouldn't really try being smart on a topic that she has no idea about. She never even mentioned the force and how it effects the fight. Didn't look into their tehniques. The only thing she got right was the seperation and you don'treally have to be a fighting expert to figure that one out.
Would love to see her critique the fight between Oliver Queen and Ra's Al Ghul in the show Arrow when the fight on the mountain top. Always felt that scene was pretty interesting but was always curious about how realistic it was.
Actually, Grabbing the sword is viable, It's more ideal if you have a glove, but even with bare hand, pulling back the blade wont just cut its way out of the hand, if the grip is strong enough, it can be pretty hard to just pull the blade away.
I was a fencer in college. In the Bond scene, I have seen nearly that exact injury when a foil accidentally got between the sleeve and the glove. But, it was not on purpose as it was in the movie. I don't think you could pull it off on purpose. He continued the match and even with his foil wrist bleeding, he won against someone who was really a better fencer than himself.
In the Star Wars clip, they cut a lot out, but in a 2 v 1 situation, the 2 want to attack in a line with one in front and one in back, while the 1 wants to keep the 2 in front in a triangle, and in the choreography of the entire fight, we see them do just that with the Jedi constantly maneuvering to put one of them behind Darth Maul, and Darth Maul countering by maneuvering so that he puts them both back in front of him. That choreography was absolutely brilliant. probably one of the best choreographed fight scenes in all of Star Wars.
Just the Myth between Hector and Achilles is just legendary. Both are incredible warriors. Achilles is basically a Demi-god because of the whole dip in pond segment of his life. Hector is just human. So to see Hector go head to head with Achilles and forcing the Myrmidon to basically wear down the Trojan is nothing short of glorious. Those two are just on another level.
She does well at breaking down scenes and definitely knows a lot, but I'd have liked to see more critiques on the unrealistic techniques throughout all the videos. A few HEMA youtubers who do practice sword fighting have reviewed some of the clips in this video and had some different opinions about the bad choices that the fighters make. These clips are rife with hollywood shenanigans that would put you at a disadvantage in a real life scenario,. things like spinning around, making cuts without a hope of connecting, deflecting blows over and over and never following up with counter cuts. Choosing non-lethal attacks when a potential fatal blow is starring at them in the face. (like james bond one where he hits james in the back with the sabers guard instead of stabbing his back?)
About the three way fight with Maul: When Obi Wan got behind him, he could have ended that fight real quick, by aiming his saber at any of the places Maul had left vulnerable. Namely his head, or his entire torso( in the back.) Maul was distracted by Qui Gon, so Obi Wan should have taken that chance.
One mistake she made. During the "Die Another Day" analysis, she mentioned they were using foils with protective gear when actually they are using epees. It is also epee they are fencing because they are not using electric lames to indicate target area. They're wearing all white meaning the whole body is the target which would be epee fencing.
If I remember right, Michelle Yeoh actually hurt herself (pulling a muscle really bad or something like that) shooting the scene that was shown in this, and I think it was early in production as well, which is why this is the best fight scene she has in the movie, because her fights had to be toned down so that she could still do them with an injury for the rest of the film. It's a shame because she is really good.
@@bruceweiner5306 another fecking eejit. Her CV is easily available online. Move on. She is both. And no one ever claimed she is a martial artist? She is a master weapons fighter.
Additionally if they were Foils and they were sparring in electric they would be wearing a metallic foil vest called a lame which designates the strike zone.
Also, I laughed out loud when you were talking about the "last two terms" they used in the scene in "I Love You, Man," because just for a moment, I genuinely thought one of the two terms you were referring to was "D*ckl!cker!"
Ha, you should though. Basically every fight starts with the opponent trying a power attack, and bashing stuns them out of it every time. Also stops dragon breath and lots of creature attacks too. And of course levels Block. It's the parry of Skyrim. Unless you're a stealth archer, like always.
Most of it is good and all but the Maul part.... "Maul is trying to divide and conquer" also criticizes Obi-wan for slowing down when hes master gets knocked away and needs a little time to get back, instead of rushing after Maul >_>
Her job title sounds cool till you realise that she's not an expert at real fighting, she's an expert at onscreen/stage fighting. She basically teaches choreography. Definitely a valid skill, but more of a performance art than a martial art
I wonder if that isn't at least equally impressive. Learn all about how to fight--now dial it back and learn how do it all in a way that looks cool but won't get anyone hurt. Make it look like you're going full throttle, but in a way that's safe for people with no prior background and only a few months (if you're lucky) to train. Talk about walking a razor's edge. You might lose a little something in that the stakes are lowered, but I don't envy them their task list at all.
13:59 yes but also no. Blade's sword is made of titanium. Men at Arms made a Blade replica out of titanium and when they took it to the sanding belt the sparks on that thing were insanely bright. he had to use welder googles and a breathing mask because of the fumes. so i imagine depending on the force sparks would have been easier with a titanium blade.
I do wish, in the Troy scene she would have talked about how unrealistic it would be to jab the point of your sword straight into the opponents shield like they do. That is a good way to break the point, or at the very least dull and or bend it. They are using Bronze swords so the tip would definitely get bent at the very least hitting into the shield like that. Also, they spend so much of the fight with their shields either at their side or behind them where it will do no good as it can block nothing when it is not between you and your opponents weapon. I find it very irksome when they bother to give the actors shields and then they spend the entire fight with the shield off to the side or holding it behind them.
She called Oberyn's weapon "almost a spear, a long quarter staff with a spear point on the end." Yeah that makes it a spear also its redundant to say spear point at the end. I have no idea why all these comments are praising her like she knows her stuff when she clearly does not.
I believe they're actually called glaives when they have such a long shaft and blade, not spears. I may be wrong tho, this is based mainly off D&D knowledge
1:56 "I feel like Martell is more fit" Maybe the Mountain is not as agile as Martell, but he did break the world deadlift record a few months ago: ua-cam.com/video/nA9XXU_nGPo/v-deo.html
So she talked about how the fighting styles that Westle and Inigo talk about are real (she left out Tybalt, pronounced "Tee-BOH," but what have you,) but she didn't mention that they're not *actually* fighting in anything even close to those styles. The scene wouldn't have looked nearly as good if they did, really - in particular Capa Ferro looks *weird.* Great scene regardless, but it's worth mentioning. :)
I'd love to see what she thinks of the old Harvey Keitel film, The Duellists (1977). Actually, I expect she's probably seen it, considering her profession, but either way, I'd love to hear her thoughts.
I had 2 personal thoughts. As far as blade (13:35), if I remember correctly, the material is some super natural material that would in theory be resistant to some of the blade damage. They are also super human (vampires) with super human strength/speed making the sparks more achievable(assuming the blades are glazing off each other and not cutting into each other). As far as Star wars, I was never a fan of the fight with Maul. While I appreciate the skill Maul's actor has, the strategy was so sub par IMO for people, who in this universe, are powerful fighters.
All of the Epee fencers in the room are in uproar that the "fight master" called their weapons "foils", a completely different style of fencing and blade. (23:40)
When I learned to use the foil some 2 decades ago the thing that most amazed me was how quickly you tire and how fast your heart begins to beat. You have to be very fit to fight using these weapons . ua-cam.com/video/lotF1-XCKjA/v-deo.html Just watch any Olympic sword or foil match...points are scored so quickly that without the electric scoring system you would never see the point being scored. Though to the combatants it seems like an eternity. With foil its all down to the wrist...and Zorro's famous Z is a simple wrist move 5 to 6 to 7 to 8.
*Sees video title.*
“Oh, this will be nice.”
*Oberyn’s fight comes up first.*
“Oh no...”
I will never forget that bone-chilling, dreadful experience of seeing it for the first time...
It made me rage quit the show for a bit.
i remember screaming and cursing at the screen 😅
@Moth Moniker I don't think any casual fan knows that...
antzpantz I don't think that figures into most SW films.
"Cool, so what do you do for a living?"
_"FIGHT MASTER."_
@No Akomplice
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No Akomplice fight director in theatre and fight choreo teacher. Uhhh do yo think knights exist in the modern world buddy? Wake up you're not in mordor
@@yyg4632 full contact jousting is still a thing so I guess it depends on your definition of knight
@@jmurphy2169 you missed the point buddy, to explain it in baby talk, astronauts go to space astronomers don't she is the astronomer in this situation
@@venividivici6738 I'm making a different point midwit. Astronauts and astronomers have clearly defined job roles whereas 'knight' is far more broadly defined, therefore to answer the question "do knights exist in the modern day" you first have to arrive at a working definition of knight. Let me know if you need me to dumb that down further for you.
The winner in all these fights are not determined by the edge of their sword but the thickness of their plot armor.
one of the things I hate about hollywood swordfighting is a significant portion seems to be 'dramatically hitting blades against eachother' instead of actual "I'm trying to kill you' fighting.
Don't forget the good ol locking blades and reminiscing past grudges
And the blade slicing through the air noise on every swing.
Yeah because realistic swordfighting would be the most excruciatingly boring thing in the world. Have you ever watched Olympic fencing?
@@sugardaddy4714 lol Olympic fencing is to realistic sword fight as kunfu movies to real fighting.
Realistic swrod fights can be made awesome. But movie choreographers dont have the knowledge nor the incentive to transition. It also requires more time and practice.
Go check a video on adorea olomouc channel. Thay good demosntrations of what an actual fight might look like.
I think part of what makes the Princess Bride fencing duel so good is that it really leans into that and doesn't even try to seem realistic. Like, the fight is just something that's happening in the background and it's really about the back-and-forth they're having.
I love the fact that she doesn't take the movies so seriously. She could nitpick these movies to death but she tempers her response and it works.
Well not really, remember she's a master of stage fighting, not real fighting. She's not trained on how to kill people properly, she's trained in making fight scenes look flashy (which is exactly what these movies do) so she's not in a position to criticise
She could nitpick things not completely obvious, if she had ANY clue what she was talking about.
@@AeneasGemini she isn't a master of anything. Except bullshitting her way into this show.
Pun intended?
@@wulfrache i'm sure armchair fighter incels know more than an expert
11:09 Well to quote one Captain Barbossa, "The code is more of what you would call 'guidelines' than actual rules."
I thought that, too, absolutely missed opportunity lol
that's what I'd love to say to a building inspector.
"The wiring here is not up to code"
"....weeeeeell..... "
Traister does a fantastic job of addressing both technique (for a layperson) and theatricality. Please bring her back for more.
Sorry but I need a title of “the fight master”
Then you’ll need to train with fight choreographers.
I guess if you get into a lot of fights to win that title
Apparently its just a title she gave herself lol. She is not very good and said a few inaccurate things just that i caught watching this.
@@wulfrache No, she never calls herself a fight master. She doesn't give any of her own credits, actually. They are displayed on screen by Wired. Besides that, please tell us about the inaccuracies.
clearly no athletic ability required
I love the fight in Troy. There aren’t many spear and shield fights.
Yeah except brad Pitt is holding his shield behind his back for like half of the fight for no apparent reason making it completely useless. He might as well just throw it at Eric bana.
@@Bjarku Well... he wanted to give Hector a fighting chance. Hahahaha
@@chelseal8448 Well, in a historical sense. The whole idea in that form of combat, was to get over the top of your opponents shield..thus delivering a lethal strike to the neck, or shoulder...or head. But as the expert said, the shield was most definitely...not just a defensive tool, but an extremely effective offensive weapon.
@@Bjarku I think the point of that was to show that it was a huge mismatch. As good as Hector was, Achilles was the absolute best and he was showing that off and playing with Hector to humiliate him in front his whole city watching.
@@Bjarku Not to amateur theorize but doesn't holding it behind your back give you more reach with your other hand?
Firstly the term "Fight Master" is very awesome. I would definitely like to see her return in a part 2 with movies like the Mask of Zorro.
I'd prefer if they actually brought someone on who had a clue about actual sword fighting. That is not this person. Go watch her "sword fighting" videos, a couple preschoolers with sticks in the playground could come up with better choreography. Nobody calls her a "Fight Master" but herself.
@@wulfrache Ow, can someone get me a band-aid? I cut myself on the edge.
@@wulfrache dude what are you even talking about? She's incredibly experienced and knowledgeable.
@@ethanwilkins5001 ROFL. I guess she is if your completely clueless.
@@ethanwilkins5001 what do you not understand about the words acting and stage combat? That's not real sword fighting, its choreography.
Everyone knows that the Monty Python fight is the perfect duel, HAVE AT YOU!!
I know, right? So even! Great technique and pace.
Same
"tis but a scratch"
Nerve-wracking really, I didn't know who would come out on top. A draw was an acceptable outcome, for such a thrilling fight.
@@bluetaigax1747 A scratch?! Your arm's off!
I really want her to break down pirates of the Carribbean fights
THAT, WAS, *AWESOME* , THAT WAS _EXACTLY_ THE STUFF I LOVE SEEING, YES! Please bring back Mrs. Traister again for more cool fight breakdown scenes, that was really good!
i came here to say exactly this. couldn’t have been more awesome and she was very knowledgeable.
You don't give the title of Fight Master to just anyone, she's so knowledgeable.
If your interested in more breakdowns of fight scenes check out Matt Easton's Channel scolagladiatoria
@No Akomplice *sounds like you just hate women*
@@ajmooretap Hahahahahaha. the things you can say these days when some one has a different opinion than you xD
Mugger: "she looks like an easy target"
Christina: *draws concealed katana *
Why exactly a Katana?
Michael T. Why not? They're awesome😜
@@jarunia17 No, they are actually not very good.
And then is arrested for carrying a concealed weapon unfortunately.
@@michaelt.5672 Fine *Draws concealed Claymore" image of someone walking around trying to hid a 2m sword in the trousers and up their shirt
She looks like those anime characters that seem harmless but are lethal.
im not seeing it
Yeah, me either. Maybe we need a video of her giving a seminar or a demonstration of her techniques.
@OveRahul Dee Oh my God yes!!!! She could pass as his twin sister
Best explanation
@@Rokkman3 OMG you do realize not every Fight historian is an actual expert in performing those said arts, the best way to put it simple is the difference between an astronaut and an astronomer, get it?
If not you don't belong in these type of videos
Fight Master: _Shields are awesome_
Captain America: 😏
The total clout, the absolute, unquestionable prestige, the complete authority of the title: *Fight Master*
Absolutely!
20:54 Saying the character's full name...full on nerdom. I love it!
Biggus Dickus
i do believe you mean "Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."
:D
I noticed she used actor names most times, but yeah, ole' Maxy is a good choice to honor with full name :)
They should do one on The Old Guard. Andy’s labrys is cool and so is Nicky’s longsword + handgun combo.
Bring a archer to do a breakdown on archery in film and tv.
Them or GQ did one with Cam Hanes
Half an hour of “they are not holding the bow correctly” or “they are holding the bow correctly” or “you can’t loose an arrow into space”
Oh and complain you can't split an arrow in half.
another channel did do this :)
Man, these comments are insufferable. Just one continuous stream of “Ummm ackshually.” It’s awful to see people so eager to over-criticize and be pedantic with someone who clearly has a lot of knowledge of technique and history.
This lady is awesome. Please bring her back!
Of stage combat techniques. Not real combat and history.
Well she teaches stage combat and she got a lot of stuff just flat wrong eg. ‘You can’t hold onto the end of someone else’s sword with your hand’ you absolutely can. Friction makes it almost impossible to just pull it out of the person’s hand.
You have to go deep to find those kinds of people. I wouldn’t have seen them if you didn’t advertise them. But I guess you want likes for the popular opinion.
I smiled when Christina made the Scaramouche reference. Some of my favorite instructors reference it. Thank you for this.
Its nice that she doesn't pick their whole technique apart, But mentions the good parts of all the fights!
That's most likely because she is clueless. Look her up rofl. Dunno what rock they found her under.
@No Akomplice why do you keep posting this. We get it
zombiekiller2112 he's jealous nobody calls him a fight master
She has no idea what she is talking about. That is why all she can do is say the obvious things that are going on. She could tell you what's going on wrong if she actually knew lol.
@@wulfrache she more idea than the knowledge you will ever have even if you dedicated your whole life learning about it, incel
I LOVE this video!!! It's got all my favorite movie sword fights through the years! Wow! I hope we see more of Ms. Traister.
For a fantasy reader who likes medieval type. This is heaven.
15:37 Translation: Hold on loosely, but don't let go. If you cling too tightly, you're gonna lose control.
oh my God 😆
A lot of people don't know this but it works in relationships too 😅🤣
Well played. *golf clap*
"I'M INVINCIBLE!"
"You're a loony."
🤣
20:15 that's actually just russell crowe after a few beers on a friday night.
Lmao, that reminds me of the Popeye parody of Russell by South Park 😂👍🏻
MAKIN' MOVIES, MAKIN' SONGS AND FIGHTIN' 'ROUND THE WOLD!
with Russel Crowe
As a fencing coach for over 10 years, the fencing blades are "epees" not "foils" in the James Bond bit. The gauntlet of a fencing glove is often closed with velcro and there is a small opening for the body cord (which connects to the epee for scoring) to exit. Blades do occasionally find their way into that hole and draw blood. Bruising, small cuts, and "road rash" are common injuries in sport fencing.
One time when I was just started out, I accidentally thrusted my epee all the way up someone's arm through the hole in their gauntlet. "Halt"(meaning "stop") was called immediately and the ref and I checked on my opponent to make sure he was OK. He was fine; we kept fencing after he closed his gauntlet a little tighter. It happens. Fencing is still statistically one of the safest sports.
Ok.
Well....not so much the cord slot nowadays. I'm a vendor and haven't seen a cord slot on a new glove in years.
Movies pretend women can't swordfight; some screenwriters defend that with saying that women can't lift swords
WIRED gets a female sword fight master to talk about representations in movies & shows
Power move.
they literally show two clips of women sword fighting but ok
@@Ora_ twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1212905702861217794 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And it's not like there's any equal, or authentic, gender ratio between male and female swordfighters in movies of any setting.
thb what makes you sword master? I really doubt she has much experience in practice, let alone real fighting.
"And it's not like there's any equal, or authentic, gender ratio between male and female swordfighters in movies of any setting." - why would there be equal ratio?
The only problem is she's not a sword fighting expert, she's a movie fighting expert. 2 completely different things.
@@keyboardmamma Kinda have the suspicion that you wouldn't criticise a stuntman being considered an expert for street fights on here.
I have the highground
You underestimate my power
Don’t try it
I hate you!
Please bring her back for more!
better find someone more knowledgeable.
please don't..
@@gondor532 how would an armchair expert like you know who's more knowledgeable?
16:00 A rapier is not light!
I know right it's just as heavy as an arming sword if not slightly heavier.
@@MegaMrsuperawesome yep. Pretty much.
I'm pretty sure the "I Love You, Man" scene was tongue in cheek.
an McKellen and Anthony Andrews' swordfight in The Scarlet Pimpernel was fantastic.
"Hanzo was the best of the best."
Miyamoto Musashi: "Hold my katana."
I’ve been binge watching these for some time now and man, huge props to Wired for finding so many awesome people!
Awwww... no Lord of the Rings.... Viggo Mortensen was amazing in his sword fighting technique.
Not sure why theres so many dislikes this was a very good video pls bring her back
There are only 160 dislikes...
Because it’s a fight coordinator pretending like she’s some kind of actual fight expert.
She is an expert. She’s literally the president of the Society of American Fight Directors.
@@desireoverpain She’s literally the president of the Society of American Fight Directors.
@@polygon2745 Its a fight choreography group, not a actual martial art organization of any kind. Its in their FAQ section, "The SAFD is the Society of American Fight Directors, an organization of dedicated artists whose purpose is to promote safety and foster excellence in the art of performing, teaching, and directing staged combat/theatrical violence." As Joe said, it is she is not an "actual fight expert" or whatever he calls it, just someone who knows a bit and probably has some limited experience with the actual martial art. Honestly I think they should have made it a bit more clear but otherwise she obviously has some, if limited, experience with historical sword fighting.
Please have her come back and cover The Duelist.
23:45 those are epees and not foils. The gloves also have a hole that a wire passes through to connect to the weapon to register the hits and the "sleeve" is separated and closed with velcro (to make easier to put on, take off). Blade tips can go through this.
I would love to see her talk about the final fight between Obi-Wan and Maul.
23:40 , mate, that's an epee, not a foil.
And she's wrong about them having all of the protective gear for (sport) fencing: none of them are wearing plastrons...
A stage 'Fight Master'. Unimpressive.
We need more episodes with this fight master, please.
I think it makes sense for the Jedi to have done a poor job teaming up on Maul, since they were established in the film to have not fought other lightsaber users in anger for generations.
plus the fact that Maul was a very intelligent fighter is another advantage on his side
Rob Roy ending - it's also set up earlier in the story as being completely in his character to do this. ("First cut?" *cuts himself on challengers blade* "Well done.")
WOW there is a lot of sexism in these comments! YIKES! I thought Christina Traister really excellently broke down parts about these clips in ways I haven't seen before (having watched a number of sword-specialists break down many of the same ones). I for one would love to see more of her!
To be honest she did terrible job with Star Wars. She shouldn't really try being smart on a topic that she has no idea about. She never even mentioned the force and how it effects the fight. Didn't look into their tehniques. The only thing she got right was the seperation and you don'treally have to be a fighting expert to figure that one out.
@@Flome the Force isn't real sweetie.
Bunnerkins nice job missing the point
@@conormurphy4328 the title says "Fighting Expert" not "Make Believe Expert". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
there is litteraly 0 sexism in these comments so far. However writing imaginary nonsense to push your nonsensical agenda - YIKES!
Would love to see her critique the fight between Oliver Queen and Ra's Al Ghul in the show Arrow when the fight on the mountain top. Always felt that scene was pretty interesting but was always curious about how realistic it was.
I would love for her to break down any and everything in arrow 💞
Actually, Grabbing the sword is viable, It's more ideal if you have a glove, but even with bare hand, pulling back the blade wont just cut its way out of the hand, if the grip is strong enough, it can be pretty hard to just pull the blade away.
I was a fencer in college. In the Bond scene, I have seen nearly that exact injury when a foil accidentally got between the sleeve and the glove. But, it was not on purpose as it was in the movie. I don't think you could pull it off on purpose. He continued the match and even with his foil wrist bleeding, he won against someone who was really a better fencer than himself.
Very nice. Please, make a video commenting on Charlize Theron in "The Old Guard".
Both her weapon and fighting style are total bollocks. There you go :)
9:33 it's not "glisade" it's "glissade"
You can pronounce it glee-cade (like the cade of facade and the ee is short)
Ikr. Also, since being french wouldn't Incortada pronounced as "ancortada"?
She has no first hand knowledge. She probably looked that up on wiki. I wouldn't take anything she is saying seriously.
@@patriciapinheiro8540 it's Italian, not French
@@julianakarasawa315 for real? Learning every day 😊
@@patriciapinheiro8540 The french equivalent is "incartade" ([ε ̃kaʀtad])
Have her back on soon Wired. She’s delightful. She’s also a Fight Master and as others have pointed out, there isn’t a cooler title.
She is clueless.
In the Star Wars clip, they cut a lot out, but in a 2 v 1 situation, the 2 want to attack in a line with one in front and one in back, while the 1 wants to keep the 2 in front in a triangle, and in the choreography of the entire fight, we see them do just that with the Jedi constantly maneuvering to put one of them behind Darth Maul, and Darth Maul countering by maneuvering so that he puts them both back in front of him. That choreography was absolutely brilliant. probably one of the best choreographed fight scenes in all of Star Wars.
Just the Myth between Hector and Achilles is just legendary.
Both are incredible warriors. Achilles is basically a Demi-god because of the whole dip in pond segment of his life. Hector is just human. So to see Hector go head to head with Achilles and forcing the Myrmidon to basically wear down the Trojan is nothing short of glorious.
Those two are just on another level.
She does well at breaking down scenes and definitely knows a lot, but I'd have liked to see more critiques on the unrealistic techniques throughout all the videos. A few HEMA youtubers who do practice sword fighting have reviewed some of the clips in this video and had some different opinions about the bad choices that the fighters make. These clips are rife with hollywood shenanigans that would put you at a disadvantage in a real life scenario,. things like spinning around, making cuts without a hope of connecting, deflecting blows over and over and never following up with counter cuts. Choosing non-lethal attacks when a potential fatal blow is starring at them in the face. (like james bond one where he hits james in the back with the sabers guard instead of stabbing his back?)
About the three way fight with Maul: When Obi Wan got behind him, he could have ended that fight real quick, by aiming his saber at any of the places Maul had left vulnerable. Namely his head, or his entire torso( in the back.) Maul was distracted by Qui Gon, so Obi Wan should have taken that chance.
The force would have warned him, presumably.
Interesting! I did NOT know Hattori Hanzo was a real swordfighter that actually lived. Thought he was just a movie creation, that's very interesting!
He is a very interesting person who played a small but important role during the warring states period of Japan
He wasn't just a swordsman; he was a ninja in every sense of the word.
@@Zeroground300 he wasn't a Ninja, that's a misconception, he was a samurai who only had command over an Iga Ninja unit
He wasn't a samurai, and it's like that it was an agglomeration of various figures.
It'd be really cool to have her again and watch her breakdown some movies with realistic sword fights such as The Deluge or The Duelists
One mistake she made. During the "Die Another Day" analysis, she mentioned they were using foils with protective gear when actually they are using epees. It is also epee they are fencing because they are not using electric lames to indicate target area. They're wearing all white meaning the whole body is the target which would be epee fencing.
She should have talked about the high ground, the ultimate technique in the galaxy. A bit of a let down.
should have reviewed indiana jones versus the sword dude
"When faced with an opponent with a sword, and you have a gun... just blast him"
If I remember right, Michelle Yeoh actually hurt herself (pulling a muscle really bad or something like that) shooting the scene that was shown in this, and I think it was early in production as well, which is why this is the best fight scene she has in the movie, because her fights had to be toned down so that she could still do them with an injury for the rest of the film. It's a shame because she is really good.
in the comments: gamestop employees who get winded standing up lecturing a Fight Master
Have you been having these hallucinations for long?
@@conormurphy4328 weak
yip. Sad boys with little to no fight experience who can't even look up her easily available CV and shut themselves up :)
@@emmavink she's a thespian, not a martial artist...
@@bruceweiner5306 another fecking eejit. Her CV is easily available online. Move on. She is both. And no one ever claimed she is a martial artist? She is a master weapons fighter.
23:41 They look more like Epees to me a Foil has a shallower bellguard
Additionally if they were Foils and they were sparring in electric they would be wearing a metallic foil vest called a lame which designates the strike zone.
Also, I laughed out loud when you were talking about the "last two terms" they used in the scene in "I Love You, Man," because just for a moment, I genuinely thought one of the two terms you were referring to was "D*ckl!cker!"
Ah, yes, the "shield bash" ; aka "that skill I never put a single point into in Elder Scrolls playthroughs" :)
Ha, you should though. Basically every fight starts with the opponent trying a power attack, and bashing stuns them out of it every time. Also stops dragon breath and lots of creature attacks too. And of course levels Block. It's the parry of Skyrim. Unless you're a stealth archer, like always.
Most of it is good and all but the Maul part....
"Maul is trying to divide and conquer"
also criticizes Obi-wan for slowing down when hes master gets knocked away and needs a little time to get back, instead of rushing after Maul >_>
Love the Highlander clip being covered.
The gratuitous handsprings were pretty puzzling... :-)
Please, PLEASE, analyze the duel in the 1974 "The Deluge" Movie.
The Polish saber fight yes? That duel is *amazing.*
Her job title sounds cool till you realise that she's not an expert at real fighting, she's an expert at onscreen/stage fighting. She basically teaches choreography. Definitely a valid skill, but more of a performance art than a martial art
Would you say a stunt fighter isn't a martial art expert? Or a stunt driver isn't a driving expert?
I wonder if that isn't at least equally impressive. Learn all about how to fight--now dial it back and learn how do it all in a way that looks cool but won't get anyone hurt. Make it look like you're going full throttle, but in a way that's safe for people with no prior background and only a few months (if you're lucky) to train. Talk about walking a razor's edge. You might lose a little something in that the stakes are lowered, but I don't envy them their task list at all.
I mean, if you combined the 2 jobs, you could probably make a brand new weapon fighting style
13:59 yes but also no. Blade's sword is made of titanium. Men at Arms made a Blade replica out of titanium and when they took it to the sanding belt the sparks on that thing were insanely bright. he had to use welder googles and a breathing mask because of the fumes. so i imagine depending on the force sparks would have been easier with a titanium blade.
I do wish, in the Troy scene she would have talked about how unrealistic it would be to jab the point of your sword straight into the opponents shield like they do. That is a good way to break the point, or at the very least dull and or bend it. They are using Bronze swords so the tip would definitely get bent at the very least hitting into the shield like that. Also, they spend so much of the fight with their shields either at their side or behind them where it will do no good as it can block nothing when it is not between you and your opponents weapon. I find it very irksome when they bother to give the actors shields and then they spend the entire fight with the shield off to the side or holding it behind them.
She called Oberyn's weapon "almost a spear, a long quarter staff with a spear point on the end." Yeah that makes it a spear also its redundant to say spear point at the end. I have no idea why all these comments are praising her like she knows her stuff when she clearly does not.
Except it’s not literally a spear so it makes sense to differentiate
I believe they're actually called glaives when they have such a long shaft and blade, not spears. I may be wrong tho, this is based mainly off D&D knowledge
1:56 "I feel like Martell is more fit" Maybe the Mountain is not as agile as Martell, but he did break the world deadlift record a few months ago: ua-cam.com/video/nA9XXU_nGPo/v-deo.html
This lady literally studied the blade
So she talked about how the fighting styles that Westle and Inigo talk about are real (she left out Tybalt, pronounced "Tee-BOH," but what have you,) but she didn't mention that they're not *actually* fighting in anything even close to those styles.
The scene wouldn't have looked nearly as good if they did, really - in particular Capa Ferro looks *weird.* Great scene regardless, but it's worth mentioning. :)
Gotta admit, I *hate* CappaFerro. The weakened back leg position just kills me, I was very happy when we rotated to learning Bolognese
@@darrensanderson1031 Oh, my knees don't like it when I'm even a little back, I couldn't do Cappa Ferro properly. You use what works for you, really.
Thank God she reviewed that Monthy Python Scene, I had always wondered...
I want more videos with the fight master.
I LOVE the title of "fight master"
"ummm, those are not foils, they're epees? @23:42
Would be cool to have Christina critique "Seven Swords" by Tsui Hark!
Love her!!! She should definitely make a comeback for more segments :)
Would be much better if they found someone with actual knowledge. Think she got her "degree" on Wikipedia.
Please bring her back! 🙏
The armour in troy is conversion as well and be killed by a knight
Spectacular analysis! Learned so much
You need a degree in acting and fight science to know Oberen messed up by letting his guard down!! 😂😂😂 what an insightful analysis
Asking a fight director if directed fights are realistic? How would she know? Ask a kendo master or fencing champion.
I keep hoping one of these reviews of sword fighting will involve Firefly, but sadly they never do.
Omg, me too! S-what?!
@@dawnochs2018 put oopooi
Thanks for the breakdown Christina, loved it!
It sounds like she knows a bit about historical fighting techniques too, which is nice.
I'd love to see what she thinks of the old Harvey Keitel film, The Duellists (1977). Actually, I expect she's probably seen it, considering her profession, but either way, I'd love to hear her thoughts.
I want to see her critique of more movies!
I want to here her input about Arrows Oliver vs Raas Al gul fights!
The bending swords in the princess bride is also reminiscent of real fencing sabres
Fencing sabers, yes, but what they are using is supposed to be rapiers and those normally oughtta be more rigid than that.
Bravo. Great breakdown. ❤
I had 2 personal thoughts.
As far as blade (13:35), if I remember correctly, the material is some super natural material that would in theory be resistant to some of the blade damage. They are also super human (vampires) with super human strength/speed making the sparks more achievable(assuming the blades are glazing off each other and not cutting into each other).
As far as Star wars, I was never a fan of the fight with Maul. While I appreciate the skill Maul's actor has, the strategy was so sub par IMO for people, who in this universe, are powerful fighters.
All of the Epee fencers in the room are in uproar that the "fight master" called their weapons "foils", a completely different style of fencing and blade. (23:40)
When I learned to use the foil some 2 decades ago the thing that most amazed me was how quickly you tire and how fast your heart begins to beat. You have to be very fit to fight using these weapons .
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Just watch any Olympic sword or foil match...points are scored so quickly that without the electric scoring system you would never see the point being scored.
Though to the combatants it seems like an eternity.
With foil its all down to the wrist...and Zorro's famous Z is a simple wrist move 5 to 6 to 7 to 8.
Did anyone notice James Bond's fencing jacket not have a strap to cover his John Thomas? Also, those are clearly epees not foils.