He leido todos los comentarios adversos acerca de esta pelicula, la mayoría se refieren a que existen fallas en los actores al hacer el doblaje, obviamente todos sabemos que los actores no son los que cantan, pero independientemente de esas críticas , puedo decir sin lugar a dudas que esta es una de las mejores peliculas en su género, un filme muy bien hecho, con una temática interesante, con unos escenarios y paisajes bellísimos y con un plantel de actores de primera, yo la ví hace muchos años e inmediatamente que maravillado por esta película y a pesar de haberla visto muchas veces, no me cansa y cada vez le encuentro algo diferente. Quiero manifestar que aunque difiero de las diversas opiniones emitidas, las respeto todas.
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con tu opinión me pasó algo muy interesante con esta película. Cuando la vi por primera vez solo vi el final y nunca supe cómo se llamaba
Ever since I saw this movie I have compared it with new Traviata presentations, but I always come back to his rendition. He sounds so ... in love.... as I think this piece should sound.
Me parece una verdadera joyita esta película...paisajes..música...temática..actores..la ví 8 veces en el cine(año 1989) y cada tanto por Google acceso y disfrutó de esta valiosísima experiencia .Un deleite para la vista, los oídos.. y el argumento!!!!!!!!
He visto esta maravillosa película 4 veces y la seguiré viendo mientras viva. Los actores fueron doblados por cantantes líricos. La voz de Jean y de Arcas la hace el mismo tenor, porque según el argumento de la obra, tienen la misma voz. En la parte en que se ve a Jean tras la puerta mover los labios, lo único que hace es seguir la letra de la parte femenina de La Traviata, que, como partenenaire, obviamente sabe. Es un modo de apoyarla simbólicamente. Quien no la vio, tal vez al ver la escena fuera de contexto, haya cosas que no quedan claras. Véanla y disfrútenla, es maravillosa. Aquí en youtube hay una versión subtitulada a español, una en francés en el original (de donde está tomada esta escena) y seguro que debe haber alguna subtitulada al inglés o doblada. Pero por favor, no juzguen la escena fuera de contexto, las actuaciones fueron magistrales. Pena que Philippe Volter ya no se encuentre entre nosotros. Su Jean está excelentemente compuesto.
What captivates me in this scene which you do not get in the opera itself is Alfredo singing directly to Violetta in plain sight. I also appreciate the fact that these two are already lovers with a romantic past, where as this moment means everything! Love this movie.
I love the 'joya' expressions the soprano and tenor have for each other--they are obviously an item off stage in the film. they support each other's artistic presense with their love--I like that.
The singing in this scene was dubbed! In other news, some movies portray events which are physically impossible. OK. @2:08 her radiance at his unexpected support is one my favorite romantic moments in film. Her expression is wonderful.
It is not unexpected. They planned it this way in order to introduce his singing before the Prince’s Arcas ever got a chance to open his mouth! Note Arcas’s furious reaction.
Las notas en las que cantan el Sempre Libera son sublimes y la nota final es maravillosa, mejor que docenas de presentaciones internacionales que pude ver.
I always have to watch when i miss mother, because i am in the United States right know and i miss hearing her sing as i did went i lived at home. Well anyways, i know its hard to find, mostly because my mom as not recorded anything in a long time. She does mainly concerts and operas these days. She worked in Argentina for a while and she teaching in at the music school in Brussels.
I like how everyone is so surprised that this was dubbed... Most movies where any firm of singing is involved are going to be dubbed. Especially with movies featuring pieces from an opera. Not many actors/actresses can sing, not well enough at least.
Quisiera conseguirla en DVD. es para tenerla ...aunque puedo verla por Google...en cine.8 veces la ví....y cada vez que la veo...me emociona como la primera vez que la ví..
I am so happy.. by what you said and ill pass it on to my mother.. Thank you so much. She is know a teacher at the Brussels Music Conservatory. Maybe you could take a course there with her in the Summer. Hint!
It was dubbed. Kind of obvious in how she was moving her mouth, but also if you look on imdb.com it gives singing credits to the people who sang for these actors.
@IshyIMB017 Well it's in a movie so who knows what the director had in mind a when it was being sung, and I'm sure it was what she wanted, but in most opera houses this wouldn't fly. Not because of the pitch, but she's pretty sloppy with her diction and how she releases her notes, but it's really impressive that she could sing that high, the tenor too. It's usually high already for a tenor, and he takes it up even more.
Yeah....I also can sing a high C and higher with opening my mouth only that wide...NOT. :D It's pretty obvious that she didn't sing herself, but her acting is nice. ^_^
es un playback. me recuerdo haber visto que ella no canta en la pellicula, pero pienso que el hermano si. el film es "Le Maître de Musique" - The music Teacher (Belgica)
I sign but there is nothing to compare too. My mom has the real voice not me.. i tried doing some musicals in my past but i could never achieve anything like that. i got the singing DNA, but without practice its useless
He leido todos los comentarios adversos acerca de esta pelicula, la mayoría se refieren a que existen fallas en los actores al hacer el doblaje, obviamente todos sabemos que los actores no son los que cantan, pero independientemente de esas críticas , puedo decir sin lugar a dudas que esta es una de las mejores peliculas en su género, un filme muy bien hecho, con una temática interesante, con unos escenarios y paisajes bellísimos y con un plantel de actores de primera, yo la ví hace muchos años e inmediatamente que maravillado por esta película y a pesar de haberla visto muchas veces, no me cansa y cada vez le encuentro algo diferente. Quiero manifestar que aunque difiero de las diversas opiniones emitidas, las respeto todas.
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con tu opinión me pasó algo muy interesante con esta película. Cuando la vi por primera vez solo vi el final y nunca supe cómo se llamaba
La mejor pelicula que he visto en toda mi vida
Ever since I saw this movie I have compared it with new Traviata presentations, but I always come back to his rendition.
He sounds so ... in love.... as I think this piece should sound.
You are so right! He is in love.
Me parece una verdadera joyita esta película...paisajes..música...temática..actores..la ví 8 veces en el cine(año 1989) y cada tanto por Google acceso y disfrutó de esta valiosísima experiencia .Un deleite para la vista, los oídos.. y el argumento!!!!!!!!
Totally FORGOT how much I LOVE this movie... and what a scene... Verdi would have LOVED it...1
He visto esta maravillosa película 4 veces y la seguiré viendo mientras viva. Los actores fueron doblados por cantantes líricos. La voz de Jean y de Arcas la hace el mismo tenor, porque según el argumento de la obra, tienen la misma voz. En la parte en que se ve a Jean tras la puerta mover los labios, lo único que hace es seguir la letra de la parte femenina de La Traviata, que, como partenenaire, obviamente sabe. Es un modo de apoyarla simbólicamente. Quien no la vio, tal vez al ver la escena fuera de contexto, haya cosas que no quedan claras. Véanla y disfrútenla, es maravillosa. Aquí en youtube hay una versión subtitulada a español, una en francés en el original (de donde está tomada esta escena) y seguro que debe haber alguna subtitulada al inglés o doblada. Pero por favor, no juzguen la escena fuera de contexto, las actuaciones fueron magistrales. Pena que Philippe Volter ya no se encuentre entre nosotros. Su Jean está excelentemente compuesto.
Es un verdadero ejemplo de lo que es un Maestro de música, y discípulos. Como la Todas las mañanas del mundo. Inspirador y emotivo.
this made me to stared listening and liking opera.......so long ago..
Her voice is amazing I love it this song is Italy opera song very good
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND SIMPLE MOVIE EVER!!!
What captivates me in this scene which you do not get in the opera itself is Alfredo singing directly to Violetta in plain sight. I also appreciate the fact that these two are already lovers with a romantic past, where as this moment means everything! Love this movie.
I love the 'joya' expressions the soprano and tenor have for each other--they are obviously an item off stage in the film. they support each other's artistic presense with their love--I like that.
The singing in this scene was dubbed!
In other news, some movies portray events which are physically impossible.
OK.
@2:08 her radiance at his unexpected support is one my favorite romantic moments in film. Her expression is wonderful.
It is not unexpected. They planned it this way in order to introduce his singing before the Prince’s Arcas ever got a chance to open his mouth! Note Arcas’s furious reaction.
The most emotional part of the movie.
me encanta esta pelicula, fabulosa y la musica muy bella, desde pequeña la mire y cada vez que la miro me sigue gustando
thanks for posting this part off this wonderful movie!
Las notas en las que cantan el Sempre Libera son sublimes y la nota final es maravillosa, mejor que docenas de presentaciones internacionales que pude ver.
Beautiful soprano (and tenor)!
hermosa película...la tengo y la veo mil veces....me gusta la Francia y la Opera¡¡¡
bravo, bravísimo...!
I agree...one of the best ever........
I always have to watch when i miss mother, because i am in the United States right know and i miss hearing her sing as i did went i lived at home. Well anyways, i know its hard to find, mostly because my mom as not recorded anything in a long time. She does mainly concerts and operas these days. She worked in Argentina for a while and she teaching in at the music school in Brussels.
i love this movie.
Magnifico!!!!
Bueno, el drama de la Traviata siempre me cautivò e impresionò, al punto de mojar los ojos.
TAMBIÉN DIGO: GRACIAS!!!! ESTA PELÍCULA LA VERÍA MIL VECES, Y ESTA ESCENA EN HACE ESTREMECER. QUIENES SON LAS QUE CANTAN?
Maravillosa película.
I like how everyone is so surprised that this was dubbed... Most movies where any firm of singing is involved are going to be dubbed. Especially with movies featuring pieces from an opera. Not many actors/actresses can sing, not well enough at least.
Quisiera conseguirla en DVD. es para tenerla ...aunque puedo verla por Google...en cine.8 veces la ví....y cada vez que la veo...me emociona como la primera vez que la ví..
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I am so happy.. by what you said and ill pass it on to my mother.. Thank you so much. She is know a teacher at the Brussels Music Conservatory. Maybe you could take a course there with her in the Summer. Hint!
It was dubbed. Kind of obvious in how she was moving her mouth, but also if you look on imdb.com it gives singing credits to the people who sang for these actors.
Onde consigo achar esse filme completo?
@IshyIMB017 Yes it was. A second up if I'm not mistaken.
yes i am daughter of Daniel Blumenthal the pianist and Dinah Bryant the opera singer.
the surprise is that the dubbing of the soprano is not in sinc--but her joy is culpable and the technical glib forgivable.
Quién es la soprano y el tenor?
@IshyIMB017 Well it's in a movie so who knows what the director had in mind a when it was being sung, and I'm sure it was what she wanted, but in most opera houses this wouldn't fly. Not because of the pitch, but she's pretty sloppy with her diction and how she releases her notes, but it's really impressive that she could sing that high, the tenor too. It's usually high already for a tenor, and he takes it up even more.
Yeah....I also can sing a high C and higher with opening my mouth only that wide...NOT. :D
It's pretty obvious that she didn't sing herself, but her acting is nice. ^_^
es un playback. me recuerdo haber visto que ella no canta en la pellicula, pero pienso que el hermano si. el film es "Le Maître de Musique" - The music Teacher (Belgica)
Ninguno de los protagonistas cantan.
So where can folks find the DVD of this movie? Are the actors portraying the singers (tenor and soprano) actually singing or is it dubbed?
masteroftheeouse It's dubbed.
Was this played at a higher pitch?
@Loismustdie26 Yeah, I noticed she doesn't sing it bad at all, but I think those high notes sound a bit annoying.
Canta en directo o es playback.? No me fio del cine. Y de que filme se trata?
Es playback ... El film es el maestro de música.
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My mother Dinah Bryant Look her up on googel
No i am not... never was permited to learn what i wanted which was the sax or the electric violin. So i told them i will no longer play if so.
How do you like my mother singing???
My mom Is the one singing not the actress.
Dinah Bryant.
Your mother is amazing! Brava!
Exquisite singing!
I sign but there is nothing to compare too. My mom has the real voice not me.. i tried doing some musicals in my past but i could never achieve anything like that. i got the singing DNA, but without practice its useless
this movy is not so much about lyric singing than about being a teacher
They're not singing. Those mouth positions would not permit those sounds to come out :).
These actors are not very good actors. It's so obvious this woman is not really singing, the man too. Plus her teeth were very distracting.
and?