I think the main problem I have is that it seems women today don't want to make much of an effort. And women are very fickle and unpredictable. One day they like you and the next day they're not too sure.
PUAs have some decent information... but are also incredibly intellectually dishonest. You can never get them to give a straightforward, well-reasoned answer. It's a world of possibilities and fanciful stories.
I like Kezia. the best dating coaches say shit as it IS. not empty platitudes and fallacies. Women should say how it is, and not things just to make men feel better.
Please consider talking to Connell Barrett next. He's a dating coach who is very aggressive with the "looks don't matter" mindset. I stopped reading his book because I perceived it as ultra ultra blue pill. I don't care for that thinking at all but it would be interesting to see him express that here.
I've never dated before and I really do not know what this "game" is, it's really mentioned here kinda off-hand but I do not understand it. EDIT: Half-way through and I'm really thinking this is just a grift to sell a dating course, I cannot fathom a lot of what she suggests or says are condusive to reality. If someone says fuck off to u in public, there must be a really bloody good reason and if U keep pushing from then on you're just making the situation more awkward and making yourself look like a certified sociopath. I know, as a guy, if I said that to anyone, especially another guy, I'd run a serious risk of getting the shit beaten out of me, and if another guy said that to me and I continued pushing to try and hang with that guy I'd run the risk of getting the shit kicked out of me. While a woman likely won't try to physically assault you as a guy, I think the implications cannot be much more different, someone is clearly not in the fucking mood to talk to you, be a respectable human being and walk away. Why is being considerate and understanding the worse option?
Hey man, if you've never dated before, you've got a lot to learn. In the case of the woman telling the guy to fuck off, well she's being incredibly rude, don't you think? Why should his first response be "oh geez, I owe it to her to respect her boundaries"? If someone is that rude, you deserve at least a brief rebuttal. In the example she provides, it worked for the guy
As she mentioned, some women do it as a form of test or self defense. It’s not always because they are actual bitches. I can imagine a lot of girls have had bad experiences with certain men harassing them. If you can respond in a way that she understands that you are a good guy, she might treat you different.
Looks do not make all the other boxes out the window with every guy. I have got to have somethings in common, not saying she has to super smart or something but can't be dumb and no ridiculous expectations etc. I maybe able to list more but I can't think of anymore right now as trying to keep it generic as to make it apply not every guy but more than just me.
Having game often sounds like women are computers. Meaning like input exact correct phrases and it spits out first date or relationship etc, Even if those lines are not like who you are whatsoever. Then you looks etc are your character in game or profile that has an initial success rate. Looks etc (40%) + Game (50%) = chance of getting a first etc (90%) 🙄
"Game" has a bit of a sleazy sound to it, but whatever you call it, men need to learn how to talk to women. Some men really struggle to meet women. What would you suggest if not that? (Please don't just say "be yourself.")
Well, computers are modeled after our brains to an extent, within context. Personally, I don’t see figuring women out as a bad thing. Both men and women have base things that spark attraction in them.
I think shopping malls would be hard because people are moving targets... should try the parks or should have dated at uni back then etc.. moving targets are hard and awkward to apporoach..
Just some feedback for you guys - I understand and appreciate you want to go the UA-cam route only, however it’s so hard to listen to you guys here, UA-cam requires video to be open to listen, where as Spotify & others allow pure listening experience which those of us on the go prefer
I think PUA coaches have a hard time understanding that not everyone is cut out for pickup and cold approaches. The same way that most PUAs wouldn’t be successful in a warm environment because they would be pinpointed as narcissistic and manipulative over time. Due to the removal of warm environments the best dating advice today is don’t be sub-8, have an over-inflated sense of self, be vain, lie, and manipulate others to meet your goal.
@@youtubesucks2755 people say that women today have started to develop an unrealistic sense of entitlement, but this sense of entitlement IS realistic. Just like Kezia said in the video, women are okay with 10 cats if they can’t meet a certain standard, and dating statistics reflect this. They are completely okay casually dating the top 20% men hoping for something long term but not settling for anything less. This means even though they are still technically in the dating market, they don’t exist in the dating market for men below the top 80%. This means increased scarcity and increases the value of women compared to men. Simping is not the problem, it is a symptom of female scarcity for the bottom 80% of men in the dating market.
@@willhogtieyou4752 Kezia is not God lol. Just show a little bit of interest in a fat chick and let me know if rejects you for a cat. You need to actually observe what’s going on in the real world instead of listening to ‘dating advice’ on internet. Everybody is trying to sell their dating courses. Don’t fall for it.
@@willhogtieyou4752 If you really think anybody is really happy with cats, I am sorry to tell you but the grifters are doing a good job of fooling you.
She's gorgeous.
Why are you simping?!?
This was a brilliant interview. Kezia made a lot of good points. Thank you for doing this one.
Thanks for your comment
I think the main problem I have is that it seems women today don't want to make much of an effort. And women are very fickle and unpredictable. One day they like you and the next day they're not too sure.
I feel like if a man approaches a female in person he somewhat has an upper hand since no one does it any more
Excellent video.
Thank you very much!
PUAs have some decent information... but are also incredibly intellectually dishonest.
You can never get them to give a straightforward, well-reasoned answer. It's a world of possibilities and fanciful stories.
Great interview
Emily's last name is King and Kezia's last name is Noble? What a bizarre coincidence. My brain wants to think it means something lol.
Just a coincidence. Two smart ladies - Todd
Bold person here, defo go large or go home. Great podcast, you are all fantastic
Much appreciated!
I like Kezia. the best dating coaches say shit as it IS. not empty platitudes and fallacies. Women should say how it is, and not things just to make men feel better.
When she talks about poor communication skills, that is a result of pe relying too much on technology for everything.
Why have I never heard of Kezia before? I guess the algorithm hasn't led me to her yet.
Half way through, hoping you cover the energy of attraction. Personally I am enjoying the F off guy. Laughter is the catalyst to that energy
Will be published on Thursday.
@@theemilyandtoddpodcast how very exciting
18:16 facts 😂
Please consider talking to Connell Barrett next. He's a dating coach who is very aggressive with the "looks don't matter" mindset. I stopped reading his book because I perceived it as ultra ultra blue pill. I don't care for that thinking at all but it would be interesting to see him express that here.
Basically be a sociopath
I've never dated before and I really do not know what this "game" is, it's really mentioned here kinda off-hand but I do not understand it.
EDIT: Half-way through and I'm really thinking this is just a grift to sell a dating course, I cannot fathom a lot of what she suggests or says are condusive to reality. If someone says fuck off to u in public, there must be a really bloody good reason and if U keep pushing from then on you're just making the situation more awkward and making yourself look like a certified sociopath.
I know, as a guy, if I said that to anyone, especially another guy, I'd run a serious risk of getting the shit beaten out of me, and if another guy said that to me and I continued pushing to try and hang with that guy I'd run the risk of getting the shit kicked out of me. While a woman likely won't try to physically assault you as a guy, I think the implications cannot be much more different, someone is clearly not in the fucking mood to talk to you, be a respectable human being and walk away.
Why is being considerate and understanding the worse option?
Thanks for watching. Slowly watch all of our episodes and I promise you will learn a lot.
Hey man, if you've never dated before, you've got a lot to learn. In the case of the woman telling the guy to fuck off, well she's being incredibly rude, don't you think? Why should his first response be "oh geez, I owe it to her to respect her boundaries"? If someone is that rude, you deserve at least a brief rebuttal. In the example she provides, it worked for the guy
As she mentioned, some women do it as a form of test or self defense. It’s not always because they are actual bitches. I can imagine a lot of girls have had bad experiences with certain men harassing them. If you can respond in a way that she understands that you are a good guy, she might treat you different.
Looks do not make all the other boxes out the window with every guy. I have got to have somethings in common, not saying she has to super smart or something but can't be dumb and no ridiculous expectations etc. I maybe able to list more but I can't think of anymore right now as trying to keep it generic as to make it apply not every guy but more than just me.
Having game often sounds like women are computers. Meaning like input exact correct phrases and it spits out first date or relationship etc, Even if those lines are not like who you are whatsoever. Then you looks etc are your character in game or profile that has an initial success rate.
Looks etc (40%) + Game (50%) = chance of getting a first etc (90%) 🙄
"Game" has a bit of a sleazy sound to it, but whatever you call it, men need to learn how to talk to women. Some men really struggle to meet women. What would you suggest if not that? (Please don't just say "be yourself.")
Well, computers are modeled after our brains to an extent, within context. Personally, I don’t see figuring women out as a bad thing. Both men and women have base things that spark attraction in them.
@@jeffm5991 I don't use the word game because as you said I agree it sounds sleezy. But I do not know what word I would use either
Todd. Push harder on the game BS. Expose her scams
Watch part 2 on Thursday
I think shopping malls would be hard because people are moving targets... should try the parks or should have dated at uni back then etc.. moving targets are hard and awkward to apporoach..
Just some feedback for you guys - I understand and appreciate you want to go the UA-cam route only, however it’s so hard to listen to you guys here, UA-cam requires video to be open to listen, where as Spotify & others allow pure listening experience which those of us on the go prefer
False. I’ve been listening to UA-cam videos without it taking up my screen for years now.
I think PUA coaches have a hard time understanding that not everyone is cut out for pickup and cold approaches. The same way that most PUAs wouldn’t be successful in a warm environment because they would be pinpointed as narcissistic and manipulative over time. Due to the removal of warm environments the best dating advice today is don’t be sub-8, have an over-inflated sense of self, be vain, lie, and manipulate others to meet your goal.
so true. Just looks is also not enough. Even chubby or average girls have so much attitude.
@@youtubesucks2755 people say that women today have started to develop an unrealistic sense of entitlement, but this sense of entitlement IS realistic. Just like Kezia said in the video, women are okay with 10 cats if they can’t meet a certain standard, and dating statistics reflect this. They are completely okay casually dating the top 20% men hoping for something long term but not settling for anything less. This means even though they are still technically in the dating market, they don’t exist in the dating market for men below the top 80%. This means increased scarcity and increases the value of women compared to men. Simping is not the problem, it is a symptom of female scarcity for the bottom 80% of men in the dating market.
@@willhogtieyou4752 Kezia is not God lol. Just show a little bit of interest in a fat chick and let me know if rejects you for a cat. You need to actually observe what’s going on in the real world instead of listening to ‘dating advice’ on internet. Everybody is trying to sell their dating courses. Don’t fall for it.
@@willhogtieyou4752 If you really think anybody is really happy with cats, I am sorry to tell you but the grifters are doing a good job of fooling you.
@@willhogtieyou4752 I think more men are becoming okay with being single as well and just focusing on themselves.