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TBH: I didn't know about the clean plate club, but my parents sometimes said there were starving children in Africa. (Not trying to diss africa that's just what they said.)
@@OrbitalAstronaut I think my parents used starving people in both Africa and China as motivation to eat every speck off our plates. "Think of all the starving people in the world. Don't you leave anything on your plate!" Even today, my plate is totally cleaned off.
I'd think wrapping up the leftovers and taking it home would be a sign of respect to the cooks. I mean you liked it so much, you'd rather eat it later than chuck it out.
Agreed. My family frawn upon wasting food or money. I had attended several large banquets while I visited Taiwan for 3 weeks back in 2017. It gone to the point me and my brother had to beg quietly on the side (not to offend the host) to get smaller meal plans instead of going to buffets. However, I noticed the food leftovers was always wrapped and taken home to eat for a later snack. Many restaurants had notices that reminds guests to eat well but refrain from wasting.
Especially on wedding banquets, Taiwanese people are more prone to packing up leftovers!! Besides people being frugal, packing up food from the banquet of the wedding family is a subtle compliment to the money they put into the feast, that we enjoyed it so much we'd take it home for another meal, or a recognition of their taste in good food. After we take the food home, we don't necessarily finish it. But the fact that we pack leftovers to ELEVATE OTHERS comparing to Chinese people refusing to pack leftovers to SAVE THEIR OWN FACE, says a lot about the differences between our culture.
China: "Refuse to wrap up food to save own face" Taiwan: "Wrap up food as a sign of respect towards the host's taste in food, and also because food wastage is looked down upon" Goes to show the polar opposite of the mindset between two cultures.
Wrapping up excess foods after a celebration is 100% Filipino. Wasted food is looked upon by Filipinos as God’s grace being thrown away whether you’re rich or not. Taiwan just copied this practice from its next door neighbor. Taiwan doesn’t say much but, it tries to copy the Philippine Christian culture. Taiwan had always been like China and much of their behavior had always been the current way even before their communism.
what do you expect? china has been dirt poor for way too long, which causes their world view to be polar opposite backwards. much like looking unhealthy and pale is actually considered a desirable trait in China, whereas in wealthy developed western nations, we prefer a toned body with a healthy tan.
xi: we need to manage food better, you must only order what you can eat Mao: the best way to keep a plate clean is to keep it from being filled in the first place
As a Chinese Malaysian, I still have constant struggle to remind my parents not to make or order too many food and rice. Because of that, eating becomes suffering to me. The same goes to my relatives.
Brent I remember that as well. My Grandma would say it. My mom, she was a wise duck. No snacks after lunch. We ate ALL our dinner at 600p and were smart enough to eat all our bag lunches or we would feel like we were starving (we all went and did sports after school then came home to dinner) We were not allowed to leave the table until we ate it all and the portions were small so she would know if we were mooching chips or twinkies from friends a practise. It just wasnt worth it.
I can confirm this. Worked on a cruise ship as a waiter, cruises that had large chinese groups were extremely wasteful. It was pretty common for them to take a little of everything on the open deck buffet, and only take a bite out of everything and leave it half eaten.
My GF is Chinese, and she likes going to buffets (buffets aren't really *a thing* anymore after the pandemic but, I mean BEFORE the virus times), anyway, she loves buffets, and I find it annoying the way she eats. If she wants to try an item, she grabs a whole bunch of each thing, and she literally only eats about 10% - 15% of what she takes. On top of that, she grabs piles of food for me. I appreciate the sentiment that she's looking out for my needs, but at the buffet I've already filled my plate with what I want. I don't want 3 or 4 additional piled plates of food. I don't like being wasteful. She says "don't worry, we've already paid for it. You take more, it's free!". Well, that's not how I see it. I just don't like throwing away perfectly good food that someone else could've eaten. Selfishness like that just seems like a mild form of evil. Be kind. Don't waste. She's not evil, but she has this ingrained cultural attitude to take everything you can because everyone else is doing it, and if you don't take the maximum amount you're somehow losing out.
William Blakker I suggest you talk to your girlfriend. What she did at buffets is highly inappropriate. That’s very wasteful. You should help her break that bad cultural habit.
@@sinoroman and you're also one of the eyeroll moments: someone trying to sound smart and completely ignoring the fact that reality is turning into something so close to a fiction book from 70 years ago. Also, I'm not people and I'm also not always. If you don't think some of the policies proposed by the CCP are very similar to somethings you would find in what Orwell wrote, then you should try to read that book again. Peace
@@baska- again, another person yelling at me for being a "false intellectual". thanks, alex jones. am i wrong that the phrase is overused? great that you stuffed words into my mouth. CPC is centralizing society in china, but stray away from FG media. >FG members liking a response that they didn't like classic FG members. got a good laugh
6:47 As a Korean I HATE Mukbang. "Hey, look at me I love filming myself eating ridiculous amounts of junk foods and making obnoxiously loud *chomp chomp* noises while I'm at it. I'm totally NOT going to throw up after filming, because I'm definitely NOT bulimic." Cancel culture should cancel this instad of ruining innocent peoples' lives.
I’ve never seen it until this video. I literally covered that corner with my hand because I was getting nauseous. Sure hope it doesn’t become a thing in America 🤢
@@Berkham1995 Did you just scrolled down more than 2000+ comments and replied to my 3-month-old comment? Bro, let me tell you I'm... so proud of ya. Keep it up.👍
Yes, also don't take the ability of non farmers to make steal for granted. This happend during Mao. And that it self started to multiply the effect of starvation
My mom insists on "fresh food only" which means not eating leftovers. Now I see where that comes from. My aunt's apartment in Honghu, Hubei didn't even have a microwave when I visited 2.5 years ago.
@@effexon Leftover rice is the best for fried rice or garlic rice the next morning. It depends on the dish, certainly. My mother tells us what's good for keeping and what has to be finished because it can't be kept overnight. We've never ever gotten sick from leftovers. It just has to do with freshness. It also has to do with not mixing eating utensils while eating communal dishes which is why we always use serving spoons for hygienic reasons.
@@effexon That why my mother or my family always cook a quantity of food depend on the number of family who will be eating together during the day so there are no unwasted food or large leftover of food. If there was any leftover, we just keep it for the night or for the tommorow. And it is important to keep leftover food preserved really well by seal it in plastic or tupperwear and put it in refrigerator. Or you can look for the tips from the internet. We already did that for the rest of our life and still did not getting sick. I am glad my mom and dad was from middle class family who did not like to waste anything.
Any food keeps in the fridge for 2 days, and in climates colder then tropical, lots of food keeps even outide the fridge for 1 day esp if the substance is dry, theres no excuse for waste. I see Europeans doing it too and it disgusts me. If you make too much and dont like eating leftovers, learn from it and adjust the amount next time, or just eat a little more then your fill and make it up with a smaller meal next time. Regulalrly throwing food away is not only disgusting but also wastes your money so theres no reason really.
Oh my god let me tell you... when my dad had a reunion after 40 years with his high school friends, they bought soooo much food and left maybe 80% of it untouched and left without taking any of it with them. I was scarred for life. And another time when I went out to eat with my dad and his colleagues in china, I finished a dish or two because it was almost gone, and they were like oh my gosh let's buy more and I was like please no, what's so difficult to understand about ordering the right amount of food and finishing it??!
I love how dissectioner guy doesn't even try to discuss further - he just left a comment, recieved his reward and moved on. (If we assume that he's indeed a state employee or something)
This kinda reminds me of a college classmate back then. His grandparents migrated here so my classmate is 2nd Gen. Once a year, the whole family would fly back to China per request of their grandfather. He said he likes the traveling part but hates it when they go eat in a restaurant. He said his grandfather wants people to know that he has money so he orders too much food that he knows they couldn't finish. Because of this the restaurant staff gave more attention to them. His aunts and uncles are the same way. He said they like feeling like a vip. Him and his cousins see it as an embarrassment and laments at how much food goes to waste. Yet, they can't say anything since you're not supposed to say anything back to the elders in their family.
yeah its same in turkey, cars are ultra expensive here there is %250 tax for car. around 7 m turks lives in europea, they come to turkey every year with expensive bmw's mercedes's to turkey. because even turkish doctors cant effortd second hand bmw here
@@mustafaakkoclar1272 Maybe it consoles you that here in germany the turks just lease their Mercedes or BMW. Most of them just pay partially so there are maybe 4 to 5 people leasing one car together. So next time you see one, ask him how long until he has to give it to the other leasers.
Loved the comment "He's not stamping out corruption; he's just stamping out the competition." Thailand is exactly the same. They have slogans like "Help us stamp out corruption!" on signs everywhere. Mate! You are the corruption!
Yo in indonesia, over one decade ago, a political party made a tv ads for corruption awareness. Turn out all of the faces in that ads went to jail for CORRUPTION
"He's not stamping out corruption; he's just stamping out the competition." You could say that about pretty much every Chinese leader, including the Mongol ones.
@@lib3rat3 In the USA from 1938 to 1952 China was a bit item in our news (my birth certificate is written in both English and CHINESE) (why? my doctor was a returned China Missionary) Read "The Good Earth" by P.Buck
everytime you say "Chairman Xi" I misheard it as "German Cheese" so my brain went like "I mean, don't get me wrong, it's alright. But I wouldn't follow orders from cheese, let alone the German kind"
wasting food linked to corruption. When the banquet is among family members, no foods are wasted 😂. But if it’s for business purposes, yes. But having government to dictate the food consumption behavior is an other issue.
Ryn Shane-Armstrong our food waste is mainly because our food taste badly in general 😂 when corn syrup replacing real sugar and I can grantee that icecream sucks. In China the fee paid for a business banquet is refundable normally by the government directly or indirectly (in the form of kickback), so nobody cares the value of the food but the face they gain
Completely agree. But even at business banquets (in the USA Texas) people are encouraged to grab a plate to go. Usually the waste comes FROM the Government and then they blame it on us. Yes it even happens in the USA.
Have you heard of Moutai, a brand of spirits? They are more than just being overpriced, back then they were exclusively provided for the top tiers. During the Great Famine the heads of the Party officially ordered to secure its production. Food frugality is for commoners, and it always has been.
@@saifulfaisal4804 If by *pig* you mean someone who doesn't eat all the food at one sitting so you take home to eat at a later time then I guess so. What are you...a moron?
condorX2 “swept under the rug” No. Just no. The entire fucking world knows how bad BOTH of these problems are here in America. I hear it 24/7 from foreigners that so desperately need to prove that their country is better, when in reality, it just shows how insecure they are. Now, I’m gonna assume that you’re from China based on your entire demeanor and more importantly how defensive you get over it. China LOVES to criticize America, and the West in general, even for the most minuscule problem or fuck-up. But as soon as we start to show their flaws, they wanna get all “boo-hoo” butthurt and whine like a little BITCH. If they’re incapable of accepting criticism, then THEY SHOULDN’T FUCKING DISH IT OUT. And then there are people like you that probably have to use a VPN only to defend your childish ass excuse of a government. It’s AMAZING how China has even come this far considering how it can’t even accept the tiniest bit of criticism. Get a fucking grip and accept that every country has its own problems. You can call this fake all you want, just as much as I can say that homelessness doesn’t exist in America, or racial discrimination doesn’t exist in America. But guess what - that doesn’t make it true - something that a lot of you Chinese Nationalists can’t seem to get through your thick fucking skull. How about instead of calling this shit fake you actually provide factual EVIDENCE to prove Laowhy86 wrong. I’m tired of seeing comments like yours bitching and moaning how the west is so bad, and then proceeding to slob all over China’s dick, as if China is a Utopia where nothing bad happens. Go grow the fuck up, and then SHUT the fuck up. Rant over.
Whoa! That 'Good Samaritan' law sounds super important. Imagine stopping to help someone not knowing that you automatically become liable for them. Also, I can only imagine how many people who needed help were neglected or abandoned or even died unnecessarily because bystanders didn't want to be help financially or legally liable.
I saw security videos of accidents in china. People get run over by cars, trucks and motorcycles and people just keep going about their day. It's pretty horrifying.
"Saving face" phenomenon is a very telling sign of the immature nature of the society. A mature person would own up to his deeds and admit to his faults with dignity instead of expecting people to gloss over and pretend to be blind.
I've long thought "saving face" is responsible for China's strange attitude to the rest of the world. For a long time the Chinese thought of China as the Middle Kingdom around which the rest of the world revolved. China was the wealthiest, smartest and most civilized place and for thousands of years that was true. But then Westerners (and later the Japanese) came by and showed China that they'd found a way to become even wealthier, smarter, and more powerful than the Chinese could even conceive of being. Worst of all to the Chinese mind is that the West was able to do all that completely independent of Chinese civilization and culture. Europeans, Americans and Japanese *don't* revere China and see it as the model they should emulate. South Korea and Singapore have since joined the developed country club too, but Hong Kong and especially Taiwan are huge sore spots for the CCP. That those two places have flourished economically and culturally by doing almost the exact opposite of what Mainland China is doing shows that the CCP's way isn't the only way. Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan have been able to incorporate Western political and economic ideas while still staying true to their culture. Taiwan is an example to the CCP and the people of China that becoming more free and prosperous doesn't mean traditional Chinese culture has to be completely abandoned.
I can attest to pork being expensive in China. I live in Denmark and my BF works for Danish Crown which is Europe's largest pork processing company. The Chinese buy literally everything that is available for export, and pay top dollar for it as well.
Considering that Denmark is one of the more expensive countries in Europe and You saying Chinese customers pay top dollars... I don’t want to imagine how much they pay then.
The Chinese have also had to kill and not eat 10's of millions of pigs in the last year due to an outbreak of African Swine Flu so I'm sure that has compounded their food problems.
@@loganjones5766 It's a good thing they got something different from Africa, not just endangered species for chinese medicine. A little plague, a little Ebola with that!
@@eile4219 not extra food they're not! They're just trying to intimidate Australia & a few other countries that are actually standing up to them, so they've dumped trade arrangements with those countries & the US, ever the backstabber, has grabbed the trade options with both hands & kowtowed to China instead of standing by their allies side
@@ThePandafriend They've an equivalent of safe face in their culture if I remembered correctly the only collectivist culture that I know that doesn't have safe face culture is Taiwan.
No Taïwan is just like a weirdo who lives on your land in a shed since he and you had a fight 70+ years ago and he lost , over and over again until most of the land now belongs to you so he had nowhere to go but that shed and he is there ever since , he also likes to pretend that he owns the land despite the fact that the onu does not aknowkage That Taiwan is a country since the 1950 s
@@cephalonbob15 since the 25 october 1971, before that Taiwan had a seat at the UN, you still have a lot to learn. The UN doesn't decide what is a country or not btw... Taiwan is not part of UN because China is divided on two and the people's Republic of China as more leverage. Taiwan never belonged to the people's Republic of China and probably never will. Taiwan is a country and still recognized by some others and unofficially recognized by most of western countries, embassies are called taipei office and work exactly the same, Taiwanese passport is recognized all around the world and Taiwan has it's own independent government, that makes it a country, not the UN.
I hope the food shortage in China gets much much worse, so Chinese people will finally rise up and overthrow the CCP. CCP is too strong to be brought down by even US military. (In fact US military intervention will only promote CCP propaganda and unite Chinese military) Only internal uprising can defeat the CCP. Chinese people must pay the price of freedom on their own.
@@cxeroannuki2840 Time has changed, a lot. Chinese people in 2021 are much more informed than in the 50s and 60s. additionally, they've had a sweet taste of capitalism and the economic prosperity it brought along. Chinese people today are far less tolerant of economic hardship than ever before. Stay hopeful, as proven by history both in china and worldwide, no dictatorship has ever managed to stop the inevitable uprising. The communist party knows that more than anyone else, since they themselves came into power on the backs of uprising.
I can attest to how wasteful Chinese society is with food and not just on a "I saw them throw away food."-level. I was part of a project to install a small plant on a landfill near Qingdao, which was supposed to generate power by burning the methane gas coming out of that landfill. The trash did produce a lot of methane because it had a way higher percentage of bio matter than the trash you find on American or European landfills, but the project ultimately failed, because the waste was too wet. The pipes used to collect and extract the gas from the waste were constantly flooded with waste water seeping out of the trash and we barely could run the test torch. In the western world, the household trash that lands on landfills is like 10 to 20% bio waste and that is on primitive landfills where they don't do recycling and don't separate the trash first. In China, it is like 60+% bio matter, meaning discarded food. Granted, since Chinese households consume more fresh fruit and vegetables, the amount of peals, skins and stuff like fish scales and guts are higher, but even when taking that into account, people just throw way more food in the trash than in the "Western World".
Most Chinese people know how to cook meals from ingredient. Most Western people only know how to reheat TV dinners. More packaging waste. Food wastage at the food manufacturer and retailers binning expired food.
Cut off fresh water from the Mekong, The sea salt water moved in , Permanently damaged the fertile land , Rice farm land, The Breadbasket that fed Asia continent
Control over water that has provided life for centuries is a touchy subject. Just as in Ethiopia cutting off downstream countries would be devastating to people and wildlife. Salt intrusion has the potential to make land uninhabitable for generations if not forever. Ancient army's would salt the land of their enemies to wipe out all traces of their existence.
@@scr4932 No, it was always cooked. I love broccoli now but if you did a survey, I'm pretty sure you'd find that most young kids don't like it. I'm guessing you're American ? . . . . cheese, eggs and ham with just about everything ?
This is a strange reaction to hunger. I was born in Leningrad, which during the war years survived the blockade and famine. At school, my grandmother and mother always taught me treats carefully with food. Especially bread because the minimum daily ration was 125 grams of bread.
@@justsomeplantcells- First of all population, it's second biggest city, the blockade long almost 3 year, and battle dont reach city except the bombardment
@@justsomeplantcells- Stalingrad is now called Volgograd and lies to the South of the Russian federation on the banks of the river Volga. It was called Stalingrad after the USSR wartime leader Josef Stalin. There was a huge battle there in 1942-43 in which the Germans lost 1 million soldiers and ended up retreating back towards Germany. Leningrad lies to the North of the Russian Federation and was known as Saint Petersburg now and also in Tsarist times. It was the centre of a huge siege in 1941 caught between the Germans and the Finns. Over a million citizens died in the 3 year siege which was only lifted in 1944. Both cities are now very symbolic and historical places and hold a very special place in the heart of the Russian people as centres of their resistance to Nazi aggression during the Great Patriotic War, (1941-1945)
that's quite the twist, i have bad impression of americans, because of the ridiculous portion sizes which seems to also fuel their obesity, but at least they finish their plates.
When you are hungry, you hardly need any encouragement to clean a plate. I never knew a true hunger, but eating a cheap porridge a week in a row, when you are a growing teenager and you want meat, really sucked and was quite depressing. So, it wasn't a hunger or starvation _per se,_ but could be called malnourishment.
So did Manchuria. Not so funny fact is that China seized the field of Manchuria, turned marshes and forests into rice pads to feed the Chinese while the people of Manchuria suffered the worst famine ever the the Great Famine. Officials installed by Beijing told the people of Manchuria to 'tighten your belts to secure the food supply for southern provinces'.
@@wulerhaufung9468 As a local chinese in Northeast of China, which you call it Manchuria,I haven't heard anyone said anything about "FAMINE". My grandparents only told that a lacking-food period in 60s, but not in northeast,and they raise 3 children. My grandpa is a total Mongol , for him no meat no happy, so in the 60s the most tough period , he even went to hunt with his frienda
not in harbin of china at least. we finish it as possible as we can, if cant then take it home, its kind of common practise here and in modern around the teenage as well
Just from my own personal experience but the portions in China are often ridiculously to much. Part of this I think is that meals are communal (everyone shares from same dish) compared to western dining that is “per plate per person”. For myself in China just ordering 3 menu items would be more than enough for 2 people...and still you could not eat it all. I always felt guilty because my father was a career soldier & the rule in our house was always finish what’s on your plate. Fair enough...but mom always loaded our plates & often way more than I could eat as she portioned all the same but I had 2 brothers about 10 years older...so an 8 year old was getting the same as my parents & 18 year old brothers. Now if we did not finish the plate the leftovers would become breakfast, lunch & dinner for the next 2 days at least & nothing else allowed until it was consumed. This “house rule” ended one night when we had beef liver & mashed potatoes (with way to much milk that made them creamy). These 2 things are the only 2 that triggered my gag reflex response. My father went into his tirade “eat what your mother cooked” and I even think the starving kids in Biafra tossed in for good measure for the guilt trip. So under his pressure I tossed both in my mouth & promptly vomited all over the dining room table. This single involuntary act resulted in my father giving in & this house rule never mentioned again...and I was able to load my own plate with what I was capable of eating. The infuriating part was he admitted his entire life he also hated liver until he was stationed in Britain in preparations for D-Day invasion with the Canadian Army. There he got liver cooked “like shoe leather” & he lived it.
Reminds me of a line in a Terry Prachett book. “When asked about what he was going to do about the rat plague in the city, the Patriarch replied, Tax the rat farms.”
Sounds like a case where the wealthy will be able to afford to eat lots, while the poor will not have anything to eat. Much like the US with healthcare.
The food shortages everywhere has just begun. Due to … The CCP virus massively disrupted the food supply. Massive locust invasions in a lot of places and bad weather in China. NA will be OK as far as enuf food in NA, but the prices will go up. I feel for good people everywhere that will suffer.
In Taiwan, it's expected to take left over food home. Restaurants have bags ready for guests to wrap up left overs routinely. Almost half of the food ordered is taken home in banquets.
I’m from Minnesota and food is plentiful and cheap here, but there are still kids that go to bed hungry here with a population of 300+ million. I can’t imagine how many people go to bed hungry in China with 1.4 billion people. Specially in the rural areas....
@Águila701 The Japanese resteraunters were offended by the Chinese chewing food then spitting it onto the floor. I've heard of other cases of this happening but I've never seen it myself.
@Brow The Unbroken Chinese people actually have been hit so hard by famine that they literally poach all wild animal out of their city's and larger towns. There are videos showcasing the lack of wildlife in these area. Imagine being in a large city like New York, and not seeing any birds... anywhere..
my parents said eat it or ill push ya face in it. i ignored that threat while staring at the kitchen tv and found my face at the bottom of a deep bowl of escarole soup. upon raising my head just picture strands of escarole hangin off my face and im cryin my eyes out!
i can attest to this as having lived in japan and the mainlander tourists behave really badly esp when it comes to food. Buffet restaurants have it the worst
Your videos and ADV Podcast have helped me immensely with understanding China from a foreigners view. I'm currently studying security and you guys have gotten me so engrossed with what's going on there. Thank you so much.
Honestly, same. I think if there was an app for that or some sort of product in america that calculates that your food should be, alot of people would willingly use it.
Only if it works! The body weight alone will tell you nothing. You need height, waist, BMI, body fat ratio, gender and age at least, so obviously the whole weight in thing is a publicity stunt.
I gotta say one thing: the plastic waste generated from food delivery is horrendous. The amount of plastic containers an office generates from ordering delivery everyday is just scary to look at. I'm sure its similar in the west, but in the west there's less soups in plastic containers and more hand-held foods in paper bags. I dunno.
Japanese don't really wrap leftovers at restaurants, but we usually only order as much as we can actually eat. We also view food-waste as a cardinal sin lol
Not kids, 40 million people died of starvation because of the CCP 1959. It's not about wasting food. It's about how the Government pocketed all the food in the grain silos while people starved to death and resorted to cannabilism.
As a member of the Chinese diaspora overseas, there's no such thing as 'face' when it comes to food. Food is precious and wasting it is highly frowned upon by everyone. We were taught never to order too much in case we couldn't finish because we could always order more if we needed to and if there were leftovers, we'd take it to go and have it the next day. At family gatherings, there's always an abundance of food so bringing leftovers home is inevitable and part of the shared, communal experience of having home cooked meals. Even at wedding banquets, depending on the venue's rules about takaways (hygiene concerns, additional charges for food containers, etc), you can bet each table would get the waitstaff to bring out takeaway containers. Half the time we're battling each other trying to get the other person to bring home the food. The idea that Chinese people don't want to be seen as stingy or frugal with their money when spending on food is really a cultural corruption of a generous communal experience into one of decadence and excess led by the CCP. It's turned into a 'me' thing instead of 'we'. I had to chuckle at the Empty Plate campaign because when mainland tourists go to our local seafood restaurants, they'd order piles and piles of food but they never finish it nor take away leftovers. We're talking platters of food left barely touched (like 80-90% left on the plate). It was honestly shameful to witness at times.
@@joshephand5538 Yeah it was really bad and no one thing could be blamed for it. Really long drought period, repeated failed harvests, scarcity of food to begin with, a war going on that made food transportation difficult, and the communist leadership of Ethiopia at the time (the country isn't communist anymore primarily BECAUSE of this event) mismanaging things in ways that multiplied the severity of it all.
I've never been able to bring myself to waste food. Growing up on farms I knew the hard work and resources it took to grow food. Being close to plants and animals I know how hard they work to grow food. I spent this morning picking precious grapes and beans in the garden. An adage I coined is "waste is a question of morals, not economics."
Amen... After retiring, my parents rears chicken, catfish, plants corn, potato, chillies, nuts, etc. I sees how much effort they put in whenever I'm home for holiday. They have 2 mottos: 1. what you scoop into your plate, you responsible to finish them. 2. have 1st smaller portion, then add 2nd portion if you still feel hungry after finishing the 1st portion.
I remember when I was in middle school, I had made a friend who had just come from China. She was not wealthy, in fact she had a very difficult life. She used to bring drinks that were alcoholic to school but no-one could tell because they were written in Chinese and she had laughed about it to me. I remember one day I was sitting with her and she mentioned that one time she got hit by a man on a motorcycle in China and how nobody was interested in helping her. There were cops around but nobody does anything. The man on the motorcycle ended up paying her (not enough money) because she acted tough and threatened him. I remember thinking that there was no way that actually happened but I realize now it definitely did. That is absolutely insane...
We lived in Macau, most of the people and relative I know do order a lot when eating with big family and/or guests. Of course not as much as the mainlanders do, and we always ask the restaurant to pack the unfinished food to take home. It is really tied to culture and moral education, sadly for most mainlanders both are not priority before having face.
And not just the flooding but China was also hit hard by locust warms and drought so there were three different events happening in China at the same time
This is also an issue with Chinese who has moved overseas. From time to time I would see a young couple ordering a set meal meant for 4 to 6, take a couple bites out of each dish, then leave without packing the leftovers. I think Chinese restaurants should offer tasting menus / chef's plate instead - charge high prices but only serve normal portions so there won't be food waste and the patrons can still flaunt their wealth....
My wife is from Taiwan and we know a lot of Chinese from the mainland and Taiwan. I've gotta say, your description of food waste is not something I've ever seen them engage in here in the US or in Taiwan. Maybe the Mainland is different. My wife is the most frugal person I thought I'd ever know. But she works with a mainlander who goes out of her way to fill doggy bags to go home. If you don't take it home yourself, even if you bought it, she will be all over it. And its not like she's poor. She makes 6 figures. As for the leader showing off frugal eating, I suspect that came from when stories of Ma Ying-jeou when he was president in Taiwan. He'd eat at a little hole in a wall breakfast place every morning before going to work. It attracted large numbers of mainlander tourists. Even the frugal person mentioned above went to Taiwan just to gather around and watch him eat his little dan-bing (egg wrapped in a tortilla/pancake thing). She brought back pictures, and just gushed about how frugal he was. Thinking a bit more, I was in Tokyo when we saw some obvious "new money" Chinese. Listening to them was weird. They were talking about all the ways they could waste and flaunt money. But I can't imagine that shows all Chinese are like that though... Certainly not any of the mainlanders we know. But again, I've never been to the mainland. I've always feared that I'd be unable to keep my mouth shut and keep my opinion to myself so much that I'd end up in jail.
The mainlanders you know probably left mainland China to go live in Taiwan for a good reason. The old generation is more like the people you will meet in Taiwan. I know tons of Taiwanese and “new money” mainlanders (most of the young successful generation) and the differences in attitude are mind boggling.
I've gone to Chinese restaurants in the U.S. with Chinese co-workers, and they would order a bunch of things and fill up the whole table with plates of food, lol.
Love you take on big issues breaking news! Details examples drive home your talking points. Keep it up we have alot to understand from you...empty plate takes on a whole new meaning
seeing that much pictures of food waste just hurts me. (gives me all the flashback of my childhood when my parents where telling me things such as "finish your food, you should consider yourself lucky to have something to eat, and we never know if in the future we'll still have this luck, eat it now to not get any regrets later" ) i cannot understand how can someone enjoy throwing away something that they could use...may it be food that is still fresh, may it be tools, materials, etc....i mean, nothing is free, you technically have to pay to get things, so, i t's like throwing your wage in the streets...
My mom never said that, My Dad, who served in Korea and literally donated all his time and pay helping orphanages while in Korea used to say there's starving children in china so I better eat all my food. He literally made me take my plate I threw in the trash out and finish after I lied to him...lol You guys actually remind me of my Dad, a 6 foot icelandic Red head nicknamed "Red" who spoke fluent Korean and shocked every Korean we ever encountered growing up. Food shortages caused some pretty horrific things in China. Keep up the good work spreading the word.
laowhy86 dammit Matt, I saw this comment and was literally gonna type exactly what you wrote. But fair play, you saw the comment first, you replied first... it’s on your freakin channel, he’ll super appreciate a comment from you rather than me so yes, hats off in submission to you my friend. Was trying to think of a lesson from Erick that’s appropriate in this situation so I can be super funny and cool but 🤔... not sure he’s covered this topic yet.
Miss Mentats Thank you Miss Mentats. C-Milk always responds to comments and is really loyal to his people. I love that. It can’t be easy when you over hundreds of thousands of subs
Wow, this is so different from how we were raised. My family left China during the Cultural revolution, and food was never wasted because there were times that they went without. My family were not originally poor, but whatever wealth we did have, was taken away by the government. Growing up, I remember that we did have lavish spreads, because food is very important, especially if you have guests, to "save face". When we went out, we always ordered way too much food, but we always took home the leftovers. The difference is, with me and many of my Chinese friends of that era who were not wealthy, leftovers were saved and often reincorporated into new dishes. Leftover char siu? That went into a new dish with fresh veg or into fried rice. And we always had lots of leftover rice. However, the empty bowl was definitely a thing. I had to finish everything up to the last grain of rice in my bowl, otherwise, my future spouse would have spots on their face akin to the leftover grains in the bowl. 🤪 Food chains are so much more vulnerable than people think. Here in the states, Covid and natural disasters has made a dent in supply, but because most people don't understand the process of how all that food gets from the farms to the grocery stores, most people just complain when they can't get their usual items (and often take it out on essential store workers).
@mark robertson No one should ever be made to feel like that. But as with all manner of cruel, superficial, unrealistic threats thoughtlessly used for discipline purposes, they still often work on naive and easy-to-guilt kids who don't know better.
@Scipio's Eyes The face thing might be regional and related to time period I grew up in. All I can say is that people who are wealthy, powerful and corrupt pretty much ruin things for the rest of us.
6:57 I think Mukbang originally is supposed to be exactly that: having a conversation on stream, while eating a reasonable meal. It was supposed to be a cozy type of "just chatting" stream. But then it devolved into people gorging on massive amounts of food and became what it is now.
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When I was younger, my parents would tell me to eat all of my food because there are hungry kids all over the world who would love to have my food so I would say to them, "Well, if I throw it out in a baggy, they can eat it" but obviously now I understand that that's not how that works.
Food wastage is indeed a phenomenon in China, but to say China is running out of food is an insane idea... if you would look at the global import stats, China imports more soybean and pork than ever. the government does it's own thing, be it logical or not, the economic data tells a true story
I was in a grocery store in Beijing a year or so back. They were selling Winnie the Pooh door mats. It made me consider the possibility that within a few years time the only way to protest in America might be the sale of Oompa Loompa door mats. It also made me consider the possibility that the sale of those Winnie the Pooh doormats were a catfishing attempt to use the checkout line to identify dissidents who want to clean their boots on Winnie the Pooh. Never quite sure how deep it goes.
Yep! I remember when my dad said " They're starving kids in China" I was a brat and said "well send it to them" but I appreciate food so much more now. If I have food in my fridge, I feel rich.
Hey, Matthew, you should send your “Empty Plate” medal your Mom gave you to your friend ( the motorcycle thief ) in Inner Mongolia. He can wear it while he learns Mandarin. 👍
When I was at university I had a Chinese friend who would sometimes take me to try different Chinese restaurants around the city - and he'd always order like 8 peoples worth of food for just us two. We'd always have so much left over and I felt kinda bad, but he just said it was quite normal (and fair enough there were other Chinese customers also with the table piled with different dishes). I'd always take some home in a takeaway container - I can only imagine what the restaurant owners thought.
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TBH: I didn't know about the clean plate club, but my parents sometimes said there were starving children in Africa. (Not trying to diss africa that's just what they said.)
@@OrbitalAstronaut I think my parents used starving people in both Africa and China as motivation to eat every speck off our plates. "Think of all the starving people in the world. Don't you leave anything on your plate!" Even today, my plate is totally cleaned off.
If the CCP changes tactics and negotiates with other countries for food trade, they should hold real elections in exchange. Under proper supervision.
@@mohitvyas97 As always. It brings more eyes haha
I'd think wrapping up the leftovers and taking it home would be a sign of respect to the cooks. I mean you liked it so much, you'd rather eat it later than chuck it out.
You can twist every situation like you did here but unfortunately everything is about money my friend, people are always going to jump to conclusions.
Another way to look at is that you didnt like the food enough to eat it in 1 go. Not that it makes sense in every situation...
Cooks dont give a fuck if you liked the meal they just want you to pay for the meal they made
@@filu7043 depends on how proud of their craft they are.
@@filu7043 do you only eat fast food
In Taiwan, it's normal for guests to wrap up food from weddings. Food waste is looked down upon.
Exactly
Agreed. My family frawn upon wasting food or money. I had attended several large banquets while I visited Taiwan for 3 weeks back in 2017. It gone to the point me and my brother had to beg quietly on the side (not to offend the host) to get smaller meal plans instead of going to buffets. However, I noticed the food leftovers was always wrapped and taken home to eat for a later snack. Many restaurants had notices that reminds guests to eat well but refrain from wasting.
Hopefully one day you can lead the way forward and help China not be so gross and disgusting.
White ppl say otherwise
Especially on wedding banquets, Taiwanese people are more prone to packing up leftovers!! Besides people being frugal, packing up food from the banquet of the wedding family is a subtle compliment to the money they put into the feast, that we enjoyed it so much we'd take it home for another meal, or a recognition of their taste in good food.
After we take the food home, we don't necessarily finish it. But the fact that we pack leftovers to ELEVATE OTHERS comparing to Chinese people refusing to pack leftovers to SAVE THEIR OWN FACE, says a lot about the differences between our culture.
China: "Refuse to wrap up food to save own face"
Taiwan: "Wrap up food as a sign of respect towards the host's taste in food, and also because food wastage is looked down upon"
Goes to show the polar opposite of the mindset between two cultures.
Wrapping up excess foods after a celebration is 100% Filipino. Wasted food is looked upon by Filipinos as God’s grace being thrown away whether you’re rich or not. Taiwan just copied this practice from its next door neighbor. Taiwan doesn’t say much but, it tries to copy the Philippine Christian culture. Taiwan had always been like China and much of their behavior had always been the current way even before their communism.
what do you expect? china has been dirt poor for way too long, which causes their world view to be polar opposite backwards. much like looking unhealthy and pale is actually considered a desirable trait in China, whereas in wealthy developed western nations, we prefer a toned body with a healthy tan.
@@leapdrive That explains why my Filipino grandma always makes a point to wrap up food, to her it is very important
That’s why Taiwan is a totally different country!
two cultures.....and two countries
xi: we need to manage food better, you must only order what you can eat
Mao: the best way to keep a plate clean is to keep it from being filled in the first place
Virgin Xi vs the chad Mao 😎😎😎
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oof still too soon
As a Chinese Malaysian, I still have constant struggle to remind my parents not to make or order too many food and rice. Because of that, eating becomes suffering to me. The same goes to my relatives.
I'm old enough that my parents would say, "Eat all your food, there are millions of people starving in China."
obligatory accusation that OP is a boomer.
Brent I remember that as well. My Grandma would say it. My mom, she was a wise duck. No snacks after lunch. We ate ALL our dinner at 600p and were smart enough to eat all our bag lunches or we would feel like we were starving (we all went and did sports after school then came home to dinner) We were not allowed to leave the table until we ate it all and the portions were small so she would know if we were mooching chips or twinkies from friends a practise. It just wasnt worth it.
@@topherjoe1 Your mother was truly a wise woman!
I thought it was "kids in Africa are starving"
Same here, it alternated between China and Africa.
I can confirm this. Worked on a cruise ship as a waiter, cruises that had large chinese groups were extremely wasteful. It was pretty common for them to take a little of everything on the open deck buffet, and only take a bite out of everything and leave it half eaten.
cruise industry is all about waste
Maybe it’s because China was so poor for so long, purchasing a lot of food is now such a privilege? A status symbol like you said.
My GF is Chinese, and she likes going to buffets (buffets aren't really *a thing* anymore after the pandemic but, I mean BEFORE the virus times), anyway, she loves buffets, and I find it annoying the way she eats. If she wants to try an item, she grabs a whole bunch of each thing, and she literally only eats about 10% - 15% of what she takes. On top of that, she grabs piles of food for me. I appreciate the sentiment that she's looking out for my needs, but at the buffet I've already filled my plate with what I want. I don't want 3 or 4 additional piled plates of food. I don't like being wasteful. She says "don't worry, we've already paid for it. You take more, it's free!". Well, that's not how I see it. I just don't like throwing away perfectly good food that someone else could've eaten. Selfishness like that just seems like a mild form of evil. Be kind. Don't waste. She's not evil, but she has this ingrained cultural attitude to take everything you can because everyone else is doing it, and if you don't take the maximum amount you're somehow losing out.
what is the psychology with that?
William Blakker I suggest you talk to your girlfriend. What she did at buffets is highly inappropriate. That’s very wasteful. You should help her break that bad cultural habit.
*"1984" wasn't supposed to be an instructions manual.*
amazingly you can still buy it in China and Animal Farm
definitely one of the eyeroll moments. people always say "1984" for any centralization policy in any country.
@@Mattsta2010 I've heard had been forbidden, just a few days ago !
@@sinoroman and you're also one of the eyeroll moments: someone trying to sound smart and completely ignoring the fact that reality is turning into something so close to a fiction book from 70 years ago. Also, I'm not people and I'm also not always. If you don't think some of the policies proposed by the CCP are very similar to somethings you would find in what Orwell wrote, then you should try to read that book again. Peace
@@baska- again, another person yelling at me for being a "false intellectual". thanks, alex jones. am i wrong that the phrase is overused? great that you stuffed words into my mouth. CPC is centralizing society in china, but stray away from FG media.
>FG members liking a response that they didn't like
classic FG members. got a good laugh
6:47 As a Korean I HATE Mukbang.
"Hey, look at me I love filming myself eating ridiculous amounts of junk foods and making obnoxiously loud *chomp chomp* noises while I'm at it. I'm totally NOT going to throw up after filming, because I'm definitely NOT bulimic."
Cancel culture should cancel this instad of ruining innocent peoples' lives.
I’ve never seen it until this video. I literally covered that corner with my hand because I was getting nauseous. Sure hope it doesn’t become a thing in America 🤢
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@@Berkham1995 Did you just scrolled down more than 2000+ comments and replied to my 3-month-old comment? Bro, let me tell you I'm...
so proud of ya. Keep it up.👍
@@jockeyjeon9532 I think it is pretty high now, found this easily, thanks to them
@@amazingsupergirl7125 it's already being done by many westerners. Nikocado guy is the worst example.
Irrespective of the Chinese food crisis there are lessons to be learnt for all of us in this video. We must not take food for granted.
Yes, also don't take the ability of non farmers to make steal for granted. This happend during Mao. And that it self started to multiply the effect of starvation
2 options in my parent's house: Eat it or go to bed hungry and eat it when you wake up. Lol
good parents.
Sounds like my aunt.
Good lady.
Yep, I remember the same words from my mother.
Didn’t hurt us, we respected how hard our parents worked to raise us well. 👍
Sounds like my mom as well.
We learned to not be picky.
Good parents ❤️
My mom insists on "fresh food only" which means not eating leftovers. Now I see where that comes from. My aunt's apartment in Honghu, Hubei didn't even have a microwave when I visited 2.5 years ago.
my home in harbin of china, me and many of my friends n relative also doesnt want to keep it till nextday
@@Vincent44483 does it have to do with what dish it is? rice is not good after first serving, fish is also difficult to keep edible.
@@effexon Leftover rice is the best for fried rice or garlic rice the next morning. It depends on the dish, certainly. My mother tells us what's good for keeping and what has to be finished because it can't be kept overnight. We've never ever gotten sick from leftovers. It just has to do with freshness. It also has to do with not mixing eating utensils while eating communal dishes which is why we always use serving spoons for hygienic reasons.
@@effexon That why my mother or my family always cook a quantity of food depend on the number of family who will be eating together during the day so there are no unwasted food or large leftover of food. If there was any leftover, we just keep it for the night or for the tommorow. And it is important to keep leftover food preserved really well by seal it in plastic or tupperwear and put it in refrigerator. Or you can look for the tips from the internet. We already did that for the rest of our life and still did not getting sick. I am glad my mom and dad was from middle class family who did not like to waste anything.
Any food keeps in the fridge for 2 days, and in climates colder then tropical, lots of food keeps even outide the fridge for 1 day esp if the substance is dry, theres no excuse for waste. I see Europeans doing it too and it disgusts me. If you make too much and dont like eating leftovers, learn from it and adjust the amount next time, or just eat a little more then your fill and make it up with a smaller meal next time. Regulalrly throwing food away is not only disgusting but also wastes your money so theres no reason really.
*OPERATION: EMPTY PLATE* sounds like a covert military operation to cut off food supply to an enemy country lol
When the Chinese communists talk of empty plates, makes me automatically think of a famine in China.
Sounds like Stalingrad winter
Don't give them ideas
@A. I. Won't blame em, they got cash somebody got grain, business is business
@@davisen3257
Sounds like Holodomor, Maji-Maji uprising, etc....
Oh my god let me tell you...
when my dad had a reunion after 40 years with his high school friends, they bought soooo much food and left maybe 80% of it untouched and left without taking any of it with them. I was scarred for life.
And another time when I went out to eat with my dad and his colleagues in china, I finished a dish or two because it was almost gone, and they were like oh my gosh let's buy more and I was like please no, what's so difficult to understand about ordering the right amount of food and finishing it??!
"Winnie the Pooh Xi Jinping" You have been banned from r/Beijing and we have deducted 50 points from your social credit.
There is no social credit system in china. Its a western media lie.
@@DrDissection r/Bejing moderator detected
@@DrDissection Wu Mao detected
Tiananmen square massacre 1989
@@DrDissection +100 social credit points
I love how dissectioner guy doesn't even try to discuss further - he just left a comment, recieved his reward and moved on. (If we assume that he's indeed a state employee or something)
This kinda reminds me of a college classmate back then. His grandparents migrated here so my classmate is 2nd Gen. Once a year, the whole family would fly back to China per request of their grandfather. He said he likes the traveling part but hates it when they go eat in a restaurant. He said his grandfather wants people to know that he has money so he orders too much food that he knows they couldn't finish. Because of this the restaurant staff gave more attention to them. His aunts and uncles are the same way. He said they like feeling like a vip. Him and his cousins see it as an embarrassment and laments at how much food goes to waste. Yet, they can't say anything since you're not supposed to say anything back to the elders in their family.
how frequent?
@@kellyliu1210 they visit China annually but I'm not sure if they're still doing it since we lost touch a few years after college.
yeah its same in turkey, cars are ultra expensive here there is %250 tax for car. around 7 m turks lives in europea, they come to turkey every year with expensive bmw's mercedes's to turkey. because even turkish doctors cant effortd second hand bmw here
@@mustafaakkoclar1272 same goes for morocco lol
@@mustafaakkoclar1272 Maybe it consoles you that here in germany the turks just lease their Mercedes or BMW. Most of them just pay partially so there are maybe 4 to 5 people leasing one car together. So next time you see one, ask him how long until he has to give it to the other leasers.
Loved the comment "He's not stamping out corruption; he's just stamping out the competition." Thailand is exactly the same. They have slogans like "Help us stamp out corruption!" on signs everywhere. Mate! You are the corruption!
someone should put up signs underneath them:
*"you want us to stamp you out?"*
Yo in indonesia, over one decade ago, a political party made a tv ads for corruption awareness. Turn out all of the faces in that ads went to jail for CORRUPTION
"He's not stamping out corruption; he's just stamping out the competition."
You could say that about pretty much every Chinese leader, including the Mongol ones.
@@MK_ULTRA420 was that supposed to be an excuse?
@@KevinPhillips_kw No I'm saying corrupt leaders and corrupt leaders claiming to purge corruption in China is almost as old as China itself.
in the '50's it was "eat it all.. THINK of all the STARVING KIDS IN CHINA !!
Guess I can start telling my kids this soon 😏
My dad was still using that with his grandchildren the last 20 years
in the 80s it was "think of the starving kids in zombabwe formerly known as rhodesia"
I still don't understand the logic of that statement
@@lib3rat3
In the USA from 1938 to 1952 China was a bit item in our news (my birth certificate is written in both English and CHINESE) (why? my doctor was a returned China Missionary) Read "The Good Earth" by P.Buck
everytime you say "Chairman Xi" I misheard it as "German Cheese" so my brain went like "I mean, don't get me wrong, it's alright. But I wouldn't follow orders from cheese, let alone the German kind"
German cheese is too delicious
LMAO.. It happen to me too...
America: eat all your food or you wont get desert.
China: eat all your food or we eat you.
This went from 1 to 100, real fucking quick
@@sponky8614 yep
Sounds like a Yakov Smirnoff joke.
Hahaha hahaha hahaha 😂 ha ha yeah.very possible as a lot of black men have disappeared in China.
@@sharoneastwood.1025 this ain’t funny man, even if it’s a joke.
wasting food linked to corruption. When the banquet is among family members, no foods are wasted 😂. But if it’s for business purposes, yes.
But having government to dictate the food consumption behavior is an other issue.
Absolutely agree
The ccp will truly do anything to stay in power. They will take away rights the we didnt know we had like how much a person can eat
Ryn Shane-Armstrong our food waste is mainly because our food taste badly in general 😂 when corn syrup replacing real sugar and I can grantee that icecream sucks.
In China the fee paid for a business banquet is refundable normally by the government directly or indirectly (in the form of kickback), so nobody cares the value of the food but the face they gain
Are you from mainland China?
Completely agree. But even at business banquets (in the USA Texas) people are encouraged to grab a plate to go. Usually the waste comes FROM the Government and then they blame it on us. Yes it even happens in the USA.
Nothing promotes food frugality like famine.
give that man a country
People can be like "Hey, this reminds me of the old days!"
Have you heard of Moutai, a brand of spirits? They are more than just being overpriced, back then they were exclusively provided for the top tiers. During the Great Famine the heads of the Party officially ordered to secure its production. Food frugality is for commoners, and it always has been.
food frugality and cannibalism
The Chinese don’t know what they are missing out on...leftover Chinese food is THE BEST!😋
Oh that's hilarious 🤣🤣☺️😊👍
@@saifulfaisal4804 If by *pig* you mean someone who doesn't eat all the food at one sitting so you take home to eat at a later time then I guess so.
What are you...a moron?
That was halarious.
@@PKmuffdiver you are hilarious too.
condorX2 “swept under the rug”
No. Just no. The entire fucking world knows how bad BOTH of these problems are here in America. I hear it 24/7 from foreigners that so desperately need to prove that their country is better, when in reality, it just shows how insecure they are.
Now, I’m gonna assume that you’re from China based on your entire demeanor and more importantly how defensive you get over it.
China LOVES to criticize America, and the West in general, even for the most minuscule problem or fuck-up. But as soon as we start to show their flaws, they wanna get all “boo-hoo” butthurt and whine like a little BITCH. If they’re incapable of accepting criticism, then THEY SHOULDN’T FUCKING DISH IT OUT. And then there are people like you that probably have to use a VPN only to defend your childish ass excuse of a government. It’s AMAZING how China has even come this far considering how it can’t even accept the tiniest bit of criticism. Get a fucking grip and accept that every country has its own problems.
You can call this fake all you want, just as much as I can say that homelessness doesn’t exist in America, or racial discrimination doesn’t exist in America. But guess what - that doesn’t make it true - something that a lot of you Chinese Nationalists can’t seem to get through your thick fucking skull. How about instead of calling this shit fake you actually provide factual EVIDENCE to prove Laowhy86 wrong.
I’m tired of seeing comments like yours bitching and moaning how the west is so bad, and then proceeding to slob all over China’s dick, as if China is a Utopia where nothing bad happens. Go grow the fuck up, and then SHUT the fuck up.
Rant over.
Whoa! That 'Good Samaritan' law sounds super important. Imagine stopping to help someone not knowing that you automatically become liable for them. Also, I can only imagine how many people who needed help were neglected or abandoned or even died unnecessarily because bystanders didn't want to be help financially or legally liable.
Like the Seinfeld Finale episode hahaha.
I saw security videos of accidents in china. People get run over by cars, trucks and motorcycles and people just keep going about their day. It's pretty horrifying.
"Saving face" phenomenon is a very telling sign of the immature nature of the society. A mature person would own up to his deeds and admit to his faults with dignity instead of expecting people to gloss over and pretend to be blind.
I've long thought "saving face" is responsible for China's strange attitude to the rest of the world. For a long time the Chinese thought of China as the Middle Kingdom around which the rest of the world revolved. China was the wealthiest, smartest and most civilized place and for thousands of years that was true. But then Westerners (and later the Japanese) came by and showed China that they'd found a way to become even wealthier, smarter, and more powerful than the Chinese could even conceive of being. Worst of all to the Chinese mind is that the West was able to do all that completely independent of Chinese civilization and culture. Europeans, Americans and Japanese *don't* revere China and see it as the model they should emulate. South Korea and Singapore have since joined the developed country club too, but Hong Kong and especially Taiwan are huge sore spots for the CCP. That those two places have flourished economically and culturally by doing almost the exact opposite of what Mainland China is doing shows that the CCP's way isn't the only way. Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan have been able to incorporate Western political and economic ideas while still staying true to their culture. Taiwan is an example to the CCP and the people of China that becoming more free and prosperous doesn't mean traditional Chinese culture has to be completely abandoned.
I can attest to pork being expensive in China. I live in Denmark and my BF works for Danish Crown which is Europe's largest pork processing company. The Chinese buy literally everything that is available for export, and pay top dollar for it as well.
Considering that Denmark is one of the more expensive countries in Europe and You saying Chinese customers pay top dollars... I don’t want to imagine how much they pay then.
Be careful it will soon exhaust all the pork inventory in Denmark, and leave you Danish people without adequate pork.
The Chinese have also had to kill and not eat 10's of millions of pigs in the last year due to an outbreak of African Swine Flu so I'm sure that has compounded their food problems.
@@loganjones5766 It's a good thing they got something different from Africa, not just endangered species for chinese medicine. A little plague, a little Ebola with that!
Europe and America, lucky
Fertile land
Many plant
And water supply good too
China had luck but nope they made their land non fertile
Classic double speak, CCP say: "don't waste food" reality: "we're running out of food".
That's exactly what this is. So when millions start starving they can say told ya so.
Now they are buying food from US even though they didn't wanted for the longest time
Maybe they understand the floods will cause food shortages so people should ration so they don;t get stuck really starving.
@@whisperingsage China said there is no flood and the three gorges dam is working against the flood in their official statement to the public
@@eile4219 not extra food they're not! They're just trying to intimidate Australia & a few other countries that are actually standing up to them, so they've dumped trade arrangements with those countries & the US, ever the backstabber, has grabbed the trade options with both hands & kowtowed to China instead of standing by their allies side
Imagine living your life based on what others think: “Save-face” culture
Also, agree, those eating videos are disgusting. No culture
problem is they are getting paid f**k ton of cash to eat on camera like who has that kind of cash to waste it
The chinese need to save face, because if you look at them sideways, they don't have one.
This is what happens when you live in a collectivist society that expects you to conform.
@@serpentzachary1340 Not nessecarily, just take a look at Japan. Imo it isn't _good_ , but it does work.
@@ThePandafriend They've an equivalent of safe face in their culture if I remembered correctly the only collectivist culture that I know that doesn't have safe face culture is Taiwan.
Mainland China: who are you?!
Taiwan: I am you, but better
No Taïwan is just like a weirdo who lives on your land in a shed since he and you had a fight 70+ years ago and he lost , over and over again until most of the land now belongs to you so he had nowhere to go but that shed and he is there ever since , he also likes to pretend that he owns the land despite the fact that the onu does not aknowkage That Taiwan is a country since the 1950 s
@@cephalonbob15 五毛。
Offended much?
Cephalon Bob lmao
@@cephalonbob15 since the 25 october 1971, before that Taiwan had a seat at the UN, you still have a lot to learn.
The UN doesn't decide what is a country or not btw... Taiwan is not part of UN because China is divided on two and the people's Republic of China as more leverage.
Taiwan never belonged to the people's Republic of China and probably never will.
Taiwan is a country and still recognized by some others and unofficially recognized by most of western countries, embassies are called taipei office and work exactly the same, Taiwanese passport is recognized all around the world and Taiwan has it's own independent government, that makes it a country, not the UN.
But hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese are working and living in Chinese mainland. They are very happy to do so.
I hope the food shortage in China gets much much worse, so Chinese people will finally rise up and overthrow the CCP. CCP is too strong to be brought down by even US military. (In fact US military intervention will only promote CCP propaganda and unite Chinese military) Only internal uprising can defeat the CCP. Chinese people must pay the price of freedom on their own.
We wish...
Wow.
we've been there before, during the mao era. it didn't work
@@cxeroannuki2840 Time has changed, a lot. Chinese people in 2021 are much more informed than in the 50s and 60s. additionally, they've had a sweet taste of capitalism and the economic prosperity it brought along. Chinese people today are far less tolerant of economic hardship than ever before. Stay hopeful, as proven by history both in china and worldwide, no dictatorship has ever managed to stop the inevitable uprising. The communist party knows that more than anyone else, since they themselves came into power on the backs of uprising.
Sad but true
I can attest to how wasteful Chinese society is with food and not just on a "I saw them throw away food."-level.
I was part of a project to install a small plant on a landfill near Qingdao, which was supposed to generate power by burning the methane gas coming out of that landfill.
The trash did produce a lot of methane because it had a way higher percentage of bio matter than the trash you find on American or European landfills, but the project ultimately failed, because the waste was too wet.
The pipes used to collect and extract the gas from the waste were constantly flooded with waste water seeping out of the trash and we barely could run the test torch.
In the western world, the household trash that lands on landfills is like 10 to 20% bio waste and that is on primitive landfills where they don't do recycling and don't separate the trash first.
In China, it is like 60+% bio matter, meaning discarded food.
Granted, since Chinese households consume more fresh fruit and vegetables, the amount of peals, skins and stuff like fish scales and guts are higher, but even when taking that into account, people just throw way more food in the trash than in the "Western World".
Most Chinese people know how to cook meals from ingredient. Most Western people only know how to reheat TV dinners. More packaging waste. Food wastage at the food manufacturer and retailers binning expired food.
AL P False
@@alp8409 You should read about european cuisine.
AL P bruh go watch ratatouille lmao
@@alp8409 ???
China 1 child children and rich China Chinese do not cook.
Universities provide fast food and old grandma and poor servants cook.
You missed the cherry on top...since China damned up the Mekong River, swarms of Yellow Bamboo Locusts coming north out of Laos...and into China.
Cut off fresh water from the Mekong, The sea salt water moved in , Permanently damaged the fertile land , Rice farm land, The Breadbasket that fed Asia continent
I don't see any knowledge of hydrology here.
@@vincentz4284 Thanks for your opinion, be sure to collect your 50¢ on the way out.
@@joshephand5538 I believe sea water would eventually benefit the soil by adding a healthy microbiome?
Control over water that has provided life for centuries is a touchy subject. Just as in Ethiopia cutting off downstream countries would be devastating to people and wildlife.
Salt intrusion has the potential to make land uninhabitable for generations if not forever.
Ancient army's would salt the land of their enemies to wipe out all traces of their existence.
The Winnie the pooh looking dude telling people to eat frugally is hilarious.
cringey
@@sinoroman Wumao
@@sinoroman 50 cents has been deposited into your bank account. Thank you for serving the CPC!
leave him alone; he had a rumbly in his tumbly >:(
@@dreamsof3dspace555
Well, at least tell him to stop running through my carrot patch! Every time...
The more food that is on top of the table, the more the host is compensating for 'shortages' below the table.
The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger he becomes
Everyone is saying, "eat it all up, there are starving children in CHINA" ours was ".... in AFRICA" ..
There was a running gag where we left just one corn nibble left
And a guy said “ that is enough to feed a tribe !”
Love it
Same lol was looking for this comment
My mom always said “starving children in Ethiopia”. I think there must have been a food crisis there in the 80’s at some point
I can't imagine life without leftovers.
there would be nothing left
Same, smh mainland chinese culture and their societal issues
Hhhhhhhhhh
@Mojito in china people might assume that is where the dog goes
When I was a kid and I had to stay at the table until I finished my dinner, I used to dream of having a family dog that liked broccoli.
Broccoli's awesome though.
Broccoli isn’t bad with dressing it’s like my favorite lol
@Phương Nguyễn they don't have any though
Baked broccoli with cheese and eggs is delicious. Did they force you to eat raw broccoli?
@@scr4932 No, it was always cooked. I love broccoli now but if you did a survey, I'm pretty sure you'd find that most young kids don't like it. I'm guessing you're American ? . . . . cheese, eggs and ham with just about everything ?
This is a strange reaction to hunger. I was born in Leningrad, which during the war years survived the blockade and famine. At school, my grandmother and mother always taught me treats carefully with food. Especially bread because the minimum daily ration was 125 grams of bread.
What is the difference of Stalingrad and Leningrad
@@justsomeplantcells- First of all population, it's second biggest city, the blockade long almost 3 year, and battle dont reach city except the bombardment
@@justsomeplantcells- Stalingrad is now called Volgograd and lies to the South of the Russian federation on the banks of the river Volga. It was called Stalingrad after the USSR wartime leader Josef Stalin. There was a huge battle there in 1942-43 in which the Germans lost 1 million soldiers and ended up retreating back towards Germany. Leningrad lies to the North of the Russian Federation and was known as Saint Petersburg now and also in Tsarist times. It was the centre of a huge siege in 1941 caught between the Germans and the Finns. Over a million citizens died in the 3 year siege which was only lifted in 1944. Both cities are now very symbolic and historical places and hold a very special place in the heart of the Russian people as centres of their resistance to Nazi aggression during the Great Patriotic War, (1941-1945)
@@justsomeplantcells-
Stalingrad- modern Volgograd
Leningrad- modern st Petersburg
"China is the most food-wasting country." Couldn't agree more.
Second to the U.S
U.S. most energy-wasting
Japan too
U.S most homeless
that's quite the twist, i have bad impression of americans, because of the ridiculous portion sizes which seems to also fuel their obesity, but at least they finish their plates.
When you are hungry, you hardly need any encouragement to clean a plate. I never knew a true hunger, but eating a cheap porridge a week in a row, when you are a growing teenager and you want meat, really sucked and was quite depressing. So, it wasn't a hunger or starvation _per se,_ but could be called malnourishment.
Fun fact: although it has a very inhospitable country for agriculture, Tibet NEVER had a single famine in its entire history...until China invaded.
So did Manchuria. Not so funny fact is that China seized the field of Manchuria, turned marshes and forests into rice pads to feed the Chinese while the people of Manchuria suffered the worst famine ever the the Great Famine. Officials installed by Beijing told the people of Manchuria to 'tighten your belts to secure the food supply for southern provinces'.
@@wulerhaufung9468 this happened in soviet countries in europe... food rich countries before had to suffer for moscow to have plenty of food.
@@wulerhaufung9468 Sounds like what the Soviets did to the Ukraine.
@@wulerhaufung9468 As a local chinese in Northeast of China, which you call it Manchuria,I haven't heard anyone said anything about "FAMINE". My grandparents only told that a lacking-food period in 60s, but not in northeast,and they raise 3 children. My grandpa is a total Mongol , for him no meat no happy, so in the 60s the most tough period , he even went to hunt with his frienda
@@wulerhaufung9468 缝合怪经典造谣
Kinda weird for a country with regions that have a rule of leaving food on the plate to show the meal was satisfying
Only leave a couple bites, leaving half a plate and not saving it for later is wasteful.
Wasting food just to flex . And have face .
Its generally to show that you don't want more - clearing your plate means you want more
not in harbin of china at least. we finish it as possible as we can, if cant then take it home, its kind of common practise here and in modern around the teenage as well
@@Vincent44483 what you talking about . You order food socialize and drink beer and dump always 2,000 rmb food on the table .
Just from my own personal experience but the portions in China are often ridiculously to much. Part of this I think is that meals are communal (everyone shares from same dish) compared to western dining that is “per plate per person”. For myself in China just ordering 3 menu items would be more than enough for 2 people...and still you could not eat it all. I always felt guilty because my father was a career soldier & the rule in our house was always finish what’s on your plate. Fair enough...but mom always loaded our plates & often way more than I could eat as she portioned all the same but I had 2 brothers about 10 years older...so an 8 year old was getting the same as my parents & 18 year old brothers. Now if we did not finish the plate the leftovers would become breakfast, lunch & dinner for the next 2 days at least & nothing else allowed until it was consumed. This “house rule” ended one night when we had beef liver & mashed potatoes (with way to much milk that made them creamy). These 2 things are the only 2 that triggered my gag reflex response. My father went into his tirade “eat what your mother cooked” and I even think the starving kids in Biafra tossed in for good measure for the guilt trip. So under his pressure I tossed both in my mouth & promptly vomited all over the dining room table. This single involuntary act resulted in my father giving in & this house rule never mentioned again...and I was able to load my own plate with what I was capable of eating. The infuriating part was he admitted his entire life he also hated liver until he was stationed in Britain in preparations for D-Day invasion with the Canadian Army. There he got liver cooked “like shoe leather” & he lived it.
*Me eating a piece of bread with some cheese on it for breakfast*
Me: Gosh I must be so poor to them Chinese.
Did you melt the triple slices of cheese first?
Cheese is quite fancy in a way tbh
Reminds me of a line in a Terry Prachett book.
“When asked about what he was going to do about the rat plague in the city, the Patriarch replied, Tax the rat farms.”
China: don't waste food people
Also China: sweats because they have a really bad food shortage
? No irony there.
Better stock up on rice before it's sold out. I'm gettin' 40 kg of jasmine and koshikari.
Sounds like a case where the wealthy will be able to afford to eat lots, while the poor will not have anything to eat. Much like the US with healthcare.
CCP: "Let's leap backwards and devolve back to the bronze age!"
What ? Plz elaborate
There was a big leap
And now we leap back
@@justsomeplantcells- the great leap *WAS* a leap backwards.
The food shortages everywhere has just begun. Due to …
The CCP virus massively disrupted the food supply. Massive locust invasions in a lot of places and bad weather in China.
NA will be OK as far as enuf food in NA, but the prices will go up.
I feel for good people everywhere that will suffer.
In Taiwan, it's expected to take left over food home. Restaurants have bags ready for guests to wrap up left overs routinely. Almost half of the food ordered is taken home in banquets.
I’m from Minnesota and food is plentiful and cheap here, but there are still kids that go to bed hungry here with a population of 300+ million. I can’t imagine how many people go to bed hungry in China with 1.4 billion people. Specially in the rural areas....
Watching that Chinese girl eat food was revolting
The fact her face was taped up to shape it and she was using heavy makeup and a filter to make her look thinner says it all.
@Águila701 The Japanese resteraunters were offended by the Chinese chewing food then spitting it onto the floor. I've heard of other cases of this happening but I've never seen it myself.
@Brow The Unbroken Chinese people actually have been hit so hard by famine that they literally poach all wild animal out of their city's and larger towns.
There are videos showcasing the lack of wildlife in these area. Imagine being in a large city like New York, and not seeing any birds... anywhere..
My parents didn't say "empty clean plate club" they said EAT IT OR WEAR IT
my parents said eat it or ill push ya face in it. i ignored that threat while staring at the kitchen tv and found my face at the bottom of a deep bowl of escarole soup. upon raising my head just picture strands of escarole hangin off my face and im cryin my eyes out!
Mine said “No desert if you don’t finnish your firsts” 🤣😂🤣
eat it or have it for dinner.
I wasn't allowed to leave the table until my plate was clean. Sometimes it took me an hour to two hours. 😔
and if you dont eat it it,it will be your brekfast.
Geez. My grandma grew up during the tail end of the great depression. If I didnt eat everything, I was being wasteful.
i can attest to this as having lived in japan and the mainlander tourists behave really badly esp when it comes to food. Buffet restaurants have it the worst
Gone are the days where food, especially rice, represented another person’s back breaking labor, so should not be wasted.
Breakfast was always available at our house for finishing up our vegetables from dinner the previous day. Quite effective.
Your videos and ADV Podcast have helped me immensely with understanding China from a foreigners view. I'm currently studying security and you guys have gotten me so engrossed with what's going on there. Thank you so much.
My pleasure
I need that body weigh-in/food requirements thing in my home!
Honestly, same. I think if there was an app for that or some sort of product in america that calculates that your food should be, alot of people would willingly use it.
Don't give them ideas.. 😂
That would be dope! I'd willingly use it every day. Every day on a daily no problem with it that's futuristic type shit!
It is a good idea but, that AI is gonna be asking for a fight with me.
Only if it works! The body weight alone will tell you nothing. You need height, waist, BMI, body fat ratio, gender and age at least, so obviously the whole weight in thing is a publicity stunt.
I gotta say one thing: the plastic waste generated from food delivery is horrendous. The amount of plastic containers an office generates from ordering delivery everyday is just scary to look at. I'm sure its similar in the west, but in the west there's less soups in plastic containers and more hand-held foods in paper bags. I dunno.
Japanese don't really wrap leftovers at restaurants, but we usually only order as much as we can actually eat. We also view food-waste as a cardinal sin lol
Never heard about this “Clean Plate Club” but I was always guilted into finishing my food by being told about the starving kids in China
Not kids, 40 million people died of starvation because of the CCP 1959. It's not about wasting food. It's about how the Government pocketed all the food in the grain silos while people starved to death and resorted to cannabilism.
As a member of the Chinese diaspora overseas, there's no such thing as 'face' when it comes to food. Food is precious and wasting it is highly frowned upon by everyone. We were taught never to order too much in case we couldn't finish because we could always order more if we needed to and if there were leftovers, we'd take it to go and have it the next day. At family gatherings, there's always an abundance of food so bringing leftovers home is inevitable and part of the shared, communal experience of having home cooked meals. Even at wedding banquets, depending on the venue's rules about takaways (hygiene concerns, additional charges for food containers, etc), you can bet each table would get the waitstaff to bring out takeaway containers. Half the time we're battling each other trying to get the other person to bring home the food. The idea that Chinese people don't want to be seen as stingy or frugal with their money when spending on food is really a cultural corruption of a generous communal experience into one of decadence and excess led by the CCP. It's turned into a 'me' thing instead of 'we'. I had to chuckle at the Empty Plate campaign because when mainland tourists go to our local seafood restaurants, they'd order piles and piles of food but they never finish it nor take away leftovers. We're talking platters of food left barely touched (like 80-90% left on the plate). It was honestly shameful to witness at times.
I must be dirt poor because I live for a doggie bag.... Especially if the meal was good ☺️
Ya like at red lobster... I just stuff bad after bag of cheese biscuits
Me too I can't stand to waste it I have to take it home if I can.
I wonder if it’s called doggie bag because people were embarrassed that they were saving it for later so claimed it was for their dogs.
@@MoejiiOsmanTV what is red lobster?
@@rainbowobsidian5313 it's a restaurant chain in the states.
Excess without sustainability is never going to work.
Thanks Cmilk! Great video!
Wait until they start distributing daily menu via WeChat to every citizen.
I was always told "there are starving children in africa" because I grew up when the ethiopian famine was a thing
I remember seen this in the news 1990
@@joshephand5538 Yeah it was really bad and no one thing could be blamed for it. Really long drought period, repeated failed harvests, scarcity of food to begin with, a war going on that made food transportation difficult, and the communist leadership of Ethiopia at the time (the country isn't communist anymore primarily BECAUSE of this event) mismanaging things in ways that multiplied the severity of it all.
Sameeee!!
I've never been able to bring myself to waste food. Growing up on farms I knew the hard work and resources it took to grow food. Being close to plants and animals I know how hard they work to grow food. I spent this morning picking precious grapes and beans in the garden. An adage I coined is "waste is a question of morals, not economics."
Amen... After retiring, my parents rears chicken, catfish, plants corn, potato, chillies, nuts, etc. I sees how much effort they put in whenever I'm home for holiday.
They have 2 mottos:
1. what you scoop into your plate, you responsible to finish them.
2. have 1st smaller portion, then add 2nd portion if you still feel hungry after finishing the 1st portion.
Buffets should be banned world wide. So much waste when half the world barley has enough food.
I remember when I was in middle school, I had made a friend who had just come from China. She was not wealthy, in fact she had a very difficult life. She used to bring drinks that were alcoholic to school but no-one could tell because they were written in Chinese and she had laughed about it to me. I remember one day I was sitting with her and she mentioned that one time she got hit by a man on a motorcycle in China and how nobody was interested in helping her. There were cops around but nobody does anything. The man on the motorcycle ended up paying her (not enough money) because she acted tough and threatened him. I remember thinking that there was no way that actually happened but I realize now it definitely did. That is absolutely insane...
We lived in Macau, most of the people and relative I know do order a lot when eating with big family and/or guests.
Of course not as much as the mainlanders do, and we always ask the restaurant to pack the unfinished food to take home.
It is really tied to culture and moral education, sadly for most mainlanders both are not priority before having face.
I can’t ignore this even if I’m stuck here, keep doing what you’re doing
But Chinese propaganda told me that they have sparsity of food!
@rrobertt13 monday
Most Chinese have habit if CCP tells them black, then they beleive it is white.
rrobertt13 if you can download douying, you’ll see a bunch of those propaganda
And not just the flooding but China was also hit hard by locust warms and drought so there were three different events happening in China at the same time
This is also an issue with Chinese who has moved overseas.
From time to time I would see a young couple ordering a set meal meant for 4 to 6, take a couple bites out of each dish, then leave without packing the leftovers.
I think Chinese restaurants should offer tasting menus / chef's plate instead - charge high prices but only serve normal portions so there won't be food waste and the patrons can still flaunt their wealth....
My wife is from Taiwan and we know a lot of Chinese from the mainland and Taiwan. I've gotta say, your description of food waste is not something I've ever seen them engage in here in the US or in Taiwan. Maybe the Mainland is different. My wife is the most frugal person I thought I'd ever know. But she works with a mainlander who goes out of her way to fill doggy bags to go home. If you don't take it home yourself, even if you bought it, she will be all over it. And its not like she's poor. She makes 6 figures.
As for the leader showing off frugal eating, I suspect that came from when stories of Ma Ying-jeou when he was president in Taiwan. He'd eat at a little hole in a wall breakfast place every morning before going to work. It attracted large numbers of mainlander tourists. Even the frugal person mentioned above went to Taiwan just to gather around and watch him eat his little dan-bing (egg wrapped in a tortilla/pancake thing). She brought back pictures, and just gushed about how frugal he was.
Thinking a bit more, I was in Tokyo when we saw some obvious "new money" Chinese. Listening to them was weird. They were talking about all the ways they could waste and flaunt money. But I can't imagine that shows all Chinese are like that though... Certainly not any of the mainlanders we know. But again, I've never been to the mainland. I've always feared that I'd be unable to keep my mouth shut and keep my opinion to myself so much that I'd end up in jail.
The mainlanders you know probably left mainland China to go live in Taiwan for a good reason. The old generation is more like the people you will meet in Taiwan. I know tons of Taiwanese and “new money” mainlanders (most of the young successful generation) and the differences in attitude are mind boggling.
I've gone to Chinese restaurants in the U.S. with Chinese co-workers, and they would order a bunch of things and fill up the whole table with plates of food, lol.
Love you take on big issues breaking news! Details examples drive home your talking points. Keep it up we have alot to understand from you...empty plate takes on a whole new meaning
seeing that much pictures of food waste just hurts me. (gives me all the flashback of my childhood when my parents where telling me things such as "finish your food, you should consider yourself lucky to have something to eat, and we never know if in the future we'll still have this luck, eat it now to not get any regrets later" )
i cannot understand how can someone enjoy throwing away something that they could use...may it be food that is still fresh, may it be tools, materials, etc....i mean, nothing is free, you technically have to pay to get things, so, i t's like throwing your wage in the streets...
My mom never said that, My Dad, who served in Korea and literally donated all his time and pay helping orphanages while in Korea used to say there's starving children in china so I better eat all my food. He literally made me take my plate I threw in the trash out and finish after I lied to him...lol You guys actually remind me of my Dad, a 6 foot icelandic Red head nicknamed "Red" who spoke fluent Korean and shocked every Korean we ever encountered growing up. Food shortages caused some pretty horrific things in China. Keep up the good work spreading the word.
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you are!
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laowhy86 dammit Matt, I saw this comment and was literally gonna type exactly what you wrote. But fair play, you saw the comment first, you replied first... it’s on your freakin channel, he’ll super appreciate a comment from you rather than me so yes, hats off in submission to you my friend. Was trying to think of a lesson from Erick that’s appropriate in this situation so I can be super funny and cool but 🤔... not sure he’s covered this topic yet.
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Wow, this is so different from how we were raised. My family left China during the Cultural revolution, and food was never wasted because there were times that they went without. My family were not originally poor, but whatever wealth we did have, was taken away by the government. Growing up, I remember that we did have lavish spreads, because food is very important, especially if you have guests, to "save face". When we went out, we always ordered way too much food, but we always took home the leftovers. The difference is, with me and many of my Chinese friends of that era who were not wealthy, leftovers were saved and often reincorporated into new dishes. Leftover char siu? That went into a new dish with fresh veg or into fried rice. And we always had lots of leftover rice. However, the empty bowl was definitely a thing. I had to finish everything up to the last grain of rice in my bowl, otherwise, my future spouse would have spots on their face akin to the leftover grains in the bowl. 🤪
Food chains are so much more vulnerable than people think. Here in the states, Covid and natural disasters has made a dent in supply, but because most people don't understand the process of how all that food gets from the farms to the grocery stores, most people just complain when they can't get their usual items (and often take it out on essential store workers).
@mark robertson No one should ever be made to feel like that. But as with all manner of cruel, superficial, unrealistic threats thoughtlessly used for discipline purposes, they still often work on naive and easy-to-guilt kids who don't know better.
@mark robertson Whatever happens in your life, I do wish you well.
@Scipio's Eyes The face thing might be regional and related to time period I grew up in. All I can say is that people who are wealthy, powerful and corrupt pretty much ruin things for the rest of us.
6:57 I think Mukbang originally is supposed to be exactly that: having a conversation on stream, while eating a reasonable meal. It was supposed to be a cozy type of "just chatting" stream.
But then it devolved into people gorging on massive amounts of food and became what it is now.
I have never understood people that don't finish their food. Actually pains me to see people throwing away half a plate of food xd
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When I was younger, my parents would tell me to eat all of my food because there are hungry kids all over the world who would love to have my food so I would say to them, "Well, if I throw it out in a baggy, they can eat it" but obviously now I understand that that's not how that works.
Food wastage is indeed a phenomenon in China, but to say China is running out of food is an insane idea... if you would look at the global import stats, China imports more soybean and pork than ever. the government does it's own thing, be it logical or not, the economic data tells a true story
The flooding this year was awful by historical standards, and an enormous amount of farmland product was ruined.
@@LouisHansell flooding will increase in Asia as the year pass by....climate change is real
@@LouisHansell much like in the US when that polar vortex hit the midwest hard.. food storages are going to be a thing from now on unfortunately :\
@@meetcharubala The flooding is record breaking in 2023, two years after your comment. I believe it will get worse. And not just in Asia
I was in a grocery store in Beijing a year or so back. They were selling Winnie the Pooh door mats. It made me consider the possibility that within a few years time the only way to protest in America might be the sale of Oompa Loompa door mats. It also made me consider the possibility that the sale of those Winnie the Pooh doormats were a catfishing attempt to use the checkout line to identify dissidents who want to clean their boots on Winnie the Pooh. Never quite sure how deep it goes.
Yep! I remember when my dad said " They're starving kids in China" I was a brat and said "well send it to them" but I appreciate food so much more now. If I have food in my fridge, I feel rich.
Thank you for all you do! Will be signing up for Patreon Monday. I look forward to speaking with you.
Hey, Matthew, you should send your “Empty Plate” medal your Mom gave you to your friend ( the motorcycle thief ) in Inner Mongolia. He can wear it while he learns Mandarin. 👍
Damn, i remember in CNY we ordered a ton of dishes as well, way too much, but then we actually took out containers and packed them up to take away
Indonesia: "Finish your food if you don't want make farmers sad"
China: *eats 1/10 of the food then waste it
Wait, is this the whole SEA? I swear we have the same thing as Indonesia, here in Thailand.
@@biocaster777 I even surprised knowing that phrase is not only popular in Indonesia.
@@sagitta98 Same thing to philippines too.
"Pagkaon kai naay mga mananom na dismaya kai wala nimo gikaon ilang ani." In my language bisaya at least
I have been watching over a year and never noticed this is a huge channel
When you said the name of the operation "Clean plate", I thought it's a "Stop eating so much, you work units" operation.
Great video. Very interesting
Pooh bear cracking down on corruption
cringey
@@sinoroman Wumao
Finally, someone called out Mukbang... such a disgusting thing to see. Sometimes the food is live!
When I was at university I had a Chinese friend who would sometimes take me to try different Chinese restaurants around the city - and he'd always order like 8 peoples worth of food for just us two. We'd always have so much left over and I felt kinda bad, but he just said it was quite normal (and fair enough there were other Chinese customers also with the table piled with different dishes). I'd always take some home in a takeaway container - I can only imagine what the restaurant owners thought.