I get the feeling that we are at the pinnacle of this show's history. The working of the show is so easeful as well as fully streamlined. The panel....Arlene is at the peak of her game with her wit and glamour, Bennett and Daly have fully evolved that competitive banter of theirs, Dorothy is sharp and honed into the deductive method. The guest panellists are all valuable contributors. Most of all, Dorothy is still alive. I'm really appreciating this period. I only wish Steve Allen was on the show more.
Regarding the comment about pig farms in Secaucus, Secaucus, New Jersey was once mostly pig farms. They served the nearby cities, and many of the pig farmers became quite wealthy. One even ran for president. But two things happened to close the farms. A virus swept through the area, killing a large number of pigs. And the Jersey Turnpike opened, which meant large numbers of people driving through who didn't care for the smell of pig. (This was before car air conditioning was wide-spread, so the majority of people drove with their windows open). These concerns eventually led to pig farms being banned in that area. It sounds as though the last one had just closed.
Took me a few minutes to realise where I knew Ralph Bellamy from - He was one of the Duke brothers in Trading Places! Then I imdb-ed him, and it seems like he was in every classic comedy from the 1930s!
He was one of those actors who was in *everything*, yes. Rarely a leading man, but always an asset to the productions he was in. And continued to act, as you point out, well into the 1980s.
What's My Line? -- Bellamy did a lot of television work, too, a surprising amount of it, in addition to all his movie work and his stage work. An actor's actor, I think. FDR became a signature role -- he played FDR as president in two lengthy TV miniseries based on two related novels by Herman Wouk -- "The Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance", both of which were novels featuring the same main characters and well worth reading, I think. Of course, his first portrayal of a FDR (considerably before his presidency) was in "Sunrise at Campobello" on the Broadway stage and not long afterward in the film adaptation of the same name, both of which are mentioned in this episode of WML. For me, Ralph Bellamy was , someone who loved his profession because it suited him so well. I think excellence was his real goal rather than stardom. I note that he never received an Oscar for a specific role, but in 1987 he was given an Honorary Academy Award "for his unique artistry and his distinguished service to the profession of acting". (The same situation occurred with Myrna Loy -- no Oscar for a specific role, but in 1991 received an Honorary Academy Award for lifetime achievement.)
+What's My Line? but quite by chance, I had seen him as a leading man the day before yesterday in "Delightfully Dangerous" with Constance Moore and a very young Jane Powell. He was charming. But this must be one of a very few pictures, where he actually gets the girl in the end. I feel a great bit sorry for him in "Hands across the table" but a good actor he was anyway and a fine man.
My favorites that he was in are, His Girl Friday with Rosalind Russell & Cary Grant and The Awful Truth with Irene Dunne & Cary Grant. His appearance in Pretty Woman was cool.
Bennett's question to Ralph Bellamey, "Are you telling the truth? " was most likely related to Bellamy's being a regular panelist on To Tell The Truth, another popular celebrity panel game show, also produced by Goodson and Toddman.
I love when they have these thematic episodes, like the one featuring twins a few weeks ago and now Miss America to honor Bennett’s judging the pageant.
Bennet Cerf asks if the mystery guest has been making a movie about gladiators. He was thinking of Kirk Douglas and Spartacus - although Douglas's career had not been as long as Bellamy said his had been.
Dorothy was my favorite panelist. I love her thinking process, and her great smile and giggle. I read the book about the possibility that she was murdered. It seems very plausible.
Murdered? Suicide or overindulgence with alcohol & meds surely? She had time off WML for drink issues acc to Internet, her Driver confirmed too didnt he? On her last appearances she looked puffy eyed, was known to go to night clubs a Lot, in some episodes she actually seems tipsy. On her last Show the others seem to be blanking her & she knew it. She was not liked - Lauren Bacall & Bogey despised her for letting him know he was Dying in her column & got the hospifal wrong, Bacall using the B word for her, Daly had a grudge & Cerf for betraying a confidence ec - note how she is usually introduced as accomplished but the praise is not personal nor warm as for Arlene Francis. What is yiur proof she was Murdered?
Ralph Bellamy's nightclub dance scene with Irene Dunne in 'The Awful Truth' 1937 is a classic hoot. Bellamy's total seriousness throughout really sells it.
Have I lived a sheltered life? I've seen big silk ribbons tied in a bow over the corner of boxes of chocolates...but not over anyone's ear before. Dorothy is certainly different!
It was rare for her hair to look good.. and the wigs and hairpieces were awful.. questionable hairdresser. ? I understand tho, I have thin, fine, curly hair…. 😢
@LisaDawnn: The introducer says "Line" with a big fat American "L". To me this "L" is very, very clearly heard, maybe because English is not my first language. ;)
Don't even bother, SuperWinterborn. She got teed off at me, stopped commenting, and deleted most of the comments she'd already left on the videos. I guess she missed this one. :)
SuperWinterborn Let's just say she made a lot nuttier comments than that. Most of them, mercifully gone. One delightful one found her wondering whether Martin Gable might have been a wife beater, on the basis of Arlene's occasional eye patches, and the tragic dumbbell incident. I kid you not.
What's My Line? Yes, I've read that one. None of them (Arlene & Martin) were the type anyway, not to beat anyone, or to be beaten. I guess the commentator is very young and impulsive.
Was John off a bit during the Mystery Guest segment? He missed turning over $5 for the first no, and Campabello Island is in New Brunswick not Nova Scotia
Also, Bennett, as an actual previous judge of the Miss America pageant, is a cheater-pants. (I say this fondly.) In addition, UA-cam's recent decision to eradicate paragraphing in comments even on desktop computers annoys me. I suppose I should tell them this in feedback, come to think.
Kilgallen sounds more & more like the drunk at a party - that whooping hoot of hers is irritating in the background. She should have been one of those people who are paid to laugh conspiculously in an audience. She didnt 'laugh' like that in the early shows. And the itony is that when she tries to be funny or amusing herself it always falls flat because she speaks high falutin & ingratiating. What idiotic questions she asks at times. Surreal even. As Atlene says later "Your terms of reference are getting more bizarre" Tony Randal was so great with Jack L in the Odd Couple - see the Bloopers video.
There's something I find creepy about these older men sitting on their laurels oggling women's bodies to judge them on their appearance. I'm glad we're evolving a bit to make this a competition and not some beauty pageant with so much focus and reward on JUST superficial appearances. Something about Bennett doing this just weirds me out.
The perpetually aggrieved - you people never run out of things to complain about. The Miss America pageant was conceived by Atlantic City businessmen to extend the tourist season beyond Labor Day. The first pageant was held on Sept 8, 1921 the following year it was renamed Miss America. In it's 100 yr history I don't think any girl has been forced to compete..
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The first guest was simply a joy to watch! What a jolly chap he was.
I get the feeling that we are at the pinnacle of this show's history. The working of the show is so easeful as well as fully streamlined. The panel....Arlene is at the peak of her game with her wit and glamour, Bennett and Daly have fully evolved that competitive banter of theirs, Dorothy is sharp and honed into the deductive method. The guest panellists are all valuable contributors.
Most of all, Dorothy is still alive. I'm really appreciating this period. I only wish Steve Allen was on the show more.
Totally agree!
I agree as well!
The panel always tickles me with just how much fun they have in the prosecution of this show.
Who were they prosecuting? 😜
Having Mr. Brydon? the hog auctioneer on this show was one of the highlights....Enjoyed this delightful man.....
Regarding the comment about pig farms in Secaucus, Secaucus, New Jersey was once mostly pig farms. They served the nearby cities, and many of the pig farmers became quite wealthy. One even ran for president. But two things happened to close the farms. A virus swept through the area, killing a large number of pigs. And the Jersey Turnpike opened, which meant large numbers of people driving through who didn't care for the smell of pig. (This was before car air conditioning was wide-spread, so the majority of people drove with their windows open). These concerns eventually led to pig farms being banned in that area. It sounds as though the last one had just closed.
Austin, MN home of SPAM!
This was broadcast the night after I was born 9/3/60.
Ralph Bellamy has the most amazing voice! And very good looking.
John does not talk to much!! He did his job very well!
Took me a few minutes to realise where I knew Ralph Bellamy from - He was one of the Duke brothers in Trading Places! Then I imdb-ed him, and it seems like he was in every classic comedy from the 1930s!
He was one of those actors who was in *everything*, yes. Rarely a leading man, but always an asset to the productions he was in. And continued to act, as you point out, well into the 1980s.
What's My Line? -- Bellamy did a lot of television work, too, a surprising amount of it, in addition to all his movie work and his stage work. An actor's actor, I think. FDR became a signature role -- he played FDR as president in two lengthy TV miniseries based on two related novels by Herman Wouk -- "The Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance", both of which were novels featuring the same main characters and well worth reading, I think. Of course, his first portrayal of a FDR (considerably before his presidency) was in "Sunrise at Campobello" on the Broadway stage and not long afterward in the film adaptation of the same name, both of which are mentioned in this episode of WML. For me, Ralph Bellamy was , someone who loved his profession because it suited him so well. I think excellence was his real goal rather than stardom. I note that he never received an Oscar for a specific role, but in 1987 he was given an Honorary Academy Award "for his unique artistry and his distinguished service to the profession of acting". (The same situation occurred with Myrna Loy -- no Oscar for a specific role, but in 1991 received an Honorary Academy Award for lifetime achievement.)
+What's My Line?
but quite by chance, I had seen him as a leading man the day before yesterday in "Delightfully Dangerous" with Constance Moore and a very young Jane Powell. He was charming. But this must be one of a very few pictures, where he actually gets the girl in the end. I feel a great bit sorry for him in "Hands across the table" but a good actor he was anyway and a fine man.
+TheGadgetPanda
You are correct. You win the bet: $1.
My favorites that he was in are, His Girl Friday with Rosalind Russell & Cary Grant and The Awful Truth with Irene Dunne & Cary Grant.
His appearance in Pretty Woman was cool.
Bennett's question to Ralph Bellamey, "Are you telling the truth? " was most likely related to Bellamy's being a regular panelist on To Tell The Truth, another popular celebrity panel game show, also produced by Goodson and Toddman.
When Polly was on here, she did the same thing. She was like, Well, to tell you the truth.....
Arlene was like, she just gave it way
Mr. Brighton (the Pig Auctioneer) has such an infectious smile, one of those people you can’t help but be happy around :)
Sometimes I wish I had been on What's My Line. I was a timber cruiser. Measuring quality and quantity of timber.
Boy...what a cheeky question...."are you telling the truth?"
RIP Ralph Rexford Bellamy (June 17, 1904 - November 29, 1991)(aged 87) you will truly be missed and my prayers go out to you and your family.
I love when they have these thematic episodes, like the one featuring twins a few weeks ago and now Miss America to honor Bennett’s judging the pageant.
Bennet Cerf asks if the mystery guest has been making a movie about gladiators. He was thinking of Kirk Douglas and Spartacus - although Douglas's career had not been as long as Bellamy said his had been.
I just love Dorothy. How tragic she was murdered. What a void her absence created.
Yes 😔
Also , how sad her murderer got away with it.
Be with your Heavenly Father dear Dorothy.
Dorothy was my favorite panelist. I love her thinking process, and her great smile and giggle. I read the book about the possibility that she was murdered. It seems very plausible.
Murdered? Suicide or overindulgence with alcohol & meds surely? She had time off WML for drink issues acc to Internet, her Driver confirmed too didnt he? On her last appearances she looked puffy eyed, was known to go to night clubs a Lot, in some episodes she actually seems tipsy. On her last Show the others seem to be blanking her & she knew it. She was not liked - Lauren Bacall & Bogey despised her for letting him know he was Dying in her column & got the hospifal wrong, Bacall using the B word for her, Daly had a grudge & Cerf for betraying a confidence ec - note how she is usually introduced as accomplished but the praise is not personal nor warm as for Arlene Francis. What is yiur proof she was Murdered?
Ralph Bellamy's nightclub dance scene with Irene Dunne in 'The Awful Truth' 1937 is a classic hoot. Bellamy's total seriousness throughout really sells it.
Have I lived a sheltered life? I've seen big silk ribbons tied in a bow over the corner of boxes of chocolates...but not over anyone's ear before. Dorothy is certainly different!
Very ordinary and common in 1960.
Yes it was the times
It was rare for her hair to look good.. and the wigs and hairpieces were awful..
questionable hairdresser. ?
I understand tho, I have thin, fine, curly hair…. 😢
"Is the reason I don't know you that until 23 years from now, you will not make your mark in a major motion picture?" "Si, claro..."
@LisaDawnn: The introducer says "Line" with a big fat American "L". To me this "L" is very, very clearly heard, maybe because English is not my first language. ;)
Don't even bother, SuperWinterborn. She got teed off at me, stopped commenting, and deleted most of the comments she'd already left on the videos. I guess she missed this one. :)
What's My Line? Ok. I only answered because that particular "L" is so distinguished apart from the rest of his sentence. :)
SuperWinterborn Let's just say she made a lot nuttier comments than that. Most of them, mercifully gone. One delightful one found her wondering whether Martin Gable might have been a wife beater, on the basis of Arlene's occasional eye patches, and the tragic dumbbell incident. I kid you not.
What's My Line? Yes, I've read that one. None of them (Arlene & Martin) were the type anyway, not to beat anyone, or to be beaten. I guess the commentator is very young and impulsive.
What's My Line?
I think Arlene could have taken Martin anyway! ;)
Bellamy was a male witch eight years later. Warlock! you say. No truly.
Was John off a bit during the Mystery Guest segment? He missed turning over $5 for the first no, and Campabello Island is in New Brunswick not Nova Scotia
He was in the wolf man
Oh, those hair bows....was hoping to forget those. 😶
2-1-2023.
Did Ralph sell his BellAmy?
Well, Amy did Ralph sell his Bell?
Amy, Says, not too sure.
Ralph Bellamy a good actor.
Watch CBS and see Bennett at the miss America ???
John said it as a question somewhere
Bennett was one of the judges at the Miss America Pagent
Felix recognized Ralph. Do you get the humor of this?
Oh my gosh... the little chuckle at 6:37 is so creepy! LOL! Who on earth was that?? Arlene? I cannot figure it out!
I listened several times and decided it was Tony Randall. Someone else may disagree.
I do believe it was Mr. Randall.
HOG AUCTIONEER
OFFICIAL CHAPERONE FOR MISS AMERICA
what the hell has 6 legs
um... insects
Also, Bennett, as an actual previous judge of the Miss America pageant, is a cheater-pants. (I say this fondly.)
In addition, UA-cam's recent decision to eradicate paragraphing in comments even on desktop computers annoys me. I suppose I should tell them this in feedback, come to think.
Yes he is a cheater pants (said not so fondly)
They all look to see who’s new in town or OTHER inside information,
to guess who the special guests are. It wasn’t all ‘investigative deduction’.
WHAT? I can still write paragraphs.
Beauty pageant answer...Cerf still in his cheating ways
Kilgallen sounds more & more like the drunk at a party - that whooping hoot of hers is irritating in the background. She should have been one of those people who are paid to laugh conspiculously in an audience. She didnt 'laugh' like that in the early shows. And the itony is that when she tries to be funny or amusing herself it always falls flat because she speaks high falutin & ingratiating. What idiotic questions she asks at times. Surreal even. As Atlene says later "Your terms of reference are getting more bizarre" Tony Randal was so great with Jack L in the Odd Couple - see the Bloopers video.
Daly way too long winded in this one
There's something I find creepy about these older men sitting on their laurels oggling women's bodies to judge them on their appearance. I'm glad we're evolving a bit to make this a competition and not some beauty pageant with so much focus and reward on JUST superficial appearances. Something about Bennett doing this just weirds me out.
gcjerryusc You seem stupid.
Did you condemn Magic Mike? The Full Monty? Chippendales?
The perpetually aggrieved - you people never run out of things to complain about. The Miss America pageant was conceived by Atlantic City businessmen to extend the tourist season beyond Labor Day. The first pageant was held on Sept 8, 1921 the following year it was renamed Miss America. In it's 100 yr history I don't think any girl has been forced to compete..
John talks way too much
It's almost as if he's the host of a popular show.
@@KaiLucasZachary And some people complain way too much! :D