@agnikaineverdies7646 Fury beat a 40 year old man, Chisora three times and Wilder the worst boxer ever to be champion twice . Then lost to an mma fighter having his boxing debut, and a middleweight. The guys a fraud and just as over rated as Wilder was
The beatings Wilder took under Fury are the reason Deontay's career is coming to an end. If Fury was so piss poor, why didn't Usyk put him out in the first round?
The worst heavyweight champion of all time. I can't believe this video. He consistently fought below average opponents. I'm glad he's finished and Fury should follow him.
@@COMEBACKINGA Agreed - Dubois should have been DQd for fouling but the ref wasn't brave enough to disqualify Frank Warren's best HW prospect. He would never have refereed a boxing match ever again.
No doubt, hard to feel sorry for a guy who constantly stated that he wanted to kill his opponents. Called himself the best but avoided all of his peers. Some of us always knew why that was and now the world knows.
Admirable, not, amicable - but a touching sentiment nonetheless. It's great to hear you giving genuine praise to a fighter at the end of their career, rather than the perfunctory "stick a fork in him". (Which, I hasten to add, is quite funny.)
Gman, I liked the way you have credited Wilder, without jumping on his back for his below par performance. Let’s all appreciate what he has brought to boxing, particularly the courage and grit he showed during the Fury trilogy. Let’s hope he calls it a day for good.
It's sad that fight fans still think that " he has lost the killer instinct " It's about him fighting top level which is why he got exposed. If he fought Dominic Breazealle now he would knocked him out cold again, or if he step down with low opposition then you'll see the same fighter we have been seeing.
Dominic Brezeale is also a shot fighter that has suffered many knockout defeats and is also the same age as Wilder so Wilder beating him now wouldn’t disprove what people think
He has lost the killer instinct, though. Wilder was never a skilled fighter, but he always had the confidence and willingness to take chances. That's how he was able to knock out Ortiz twice after being soundly outpointed all fight. But this Wilder is gunshy, which means opponents are more willing to just walk him down. Completely different fighter.
@@View619he tried to take chances lol his gambles just didn't pay off. Both times when zhang knocked him out and when parker rocked him they countered his right hand. Boxing is a SCIENCE at this level. Not a wild brawl
BS , Wilder looked great knocking out his old sparring partner three fights ago , he’s been so carefully protected and kept away from the top men for years , his resume is dreadful
Yes he should definitely retire. He should have retired after Fury trilogy. He was a protected fighter who outperformed his potential. He was found wanting when he stepped up. He provided excitement and was a long reigning champion. I hope he retires while he’s still healthy rather than be beaten by journeymen going forward.
Wilder fights like he is afraid, not that his timing is off. Its happened twice in a row now , and last nights performance was a futher indication that he could get hurt badly if he continues. Wilder looked uncertain and fearful even when he was being given instructions by his corner.
Shame we never got AJ v Wilder in 2018-2019. At that time this was the biggest fight in the world and I’m sure it would’ve been a great fight. Fair play to wilder, wish him the best.
Put a Gerald Washington, Brezeal or Helenius in front of Wilder right now, and he knocks them out. Wilder isnt finished, he's just never been able to beat quality opposition.
Even though Wilder was technically flawed and avoided many top fighters, I don't like to call on someone's retirement. Particularly when he got up for the count like Tyson Fury in their first fight. I am not saying that he would've survived, but hey, you never know.
Wilder completely gun shy. Had no chance fighting on backfoot. Really wanted him to win to set AJ fight up. Sad to know we'll never get that fight. Fury completely changed him as a fighter. Had a couple of glimpes where he went for it. But tbh i think its sad to see wilder go out like that. The trilogy with fury was class and probably his best performance even tho he lost. That 5 stone difference is crazy. I do believe bridgerweight is wilders best chance to get a belt. He just cant cut it with the big boys. Hes naturally too small. Okolie another fraud getting belts.
Ye most likely he's beyond repair. Malik Scott not done him any favours. Looks good hitting pads but in a fight looks dog shit. Wilder tbh has had a great career for his boxing ability. Probably should've tried sugar Hill seek snd destroy style. Just go for it but it seems the dogs left him
And yet Usyk beats all of them? Wilder is not too small he was never good enough. Top work from his management- they squeezed the most out of his underwhelming talents. Its a shame they and the WBC hurt boxing to do it.
Fury & Malik changed his form. If he stayed with Mark breland & stayed wild & unpredictable, which makes him who he is, he's dangerous. The 5 years spent fighting fury. If he fought zhang, Parker, ruiz, aj & countless others instead , it would be a perfect retirement .. all these soul cleansing & regiments he doing. Years off from fights, family trouble at home, plus old age has caught up with him
@@marshtermind yes wasted potential, weighs 210lbs, with a nuclear right hand and with a late start still managed to win a bronze medal in the olympics. Had he actually focused on improving on his skills instead of preferring cheerleaders over actual trainers he could have had a much better career. But he’d rather not focus on improving his skills and he’d rather face lesser competition, you bringing that up is just making my point.
Gman totally agree. For me, emphasis me. The moment that effected his head. Was, after mullering Fury in the First fight he turned to the crowd and did his cut throat thing. Forget what happened after and the subsequent 2 fights. Just look at his face when Fury rose from the dead. The camera does pan to him. It is a picture of absolute disbelief. So not the boxing worlds, his in his head of invincibility was questioned. Hence the weight gain for the next 2 fights. Only an opinion, please do not crucify me.
To be fair to Fury, Wilder was feared to an extent - everyone knew his skills were extremely limited but he had that right hand. The Fury trilogy massively damaged him.
This doesn’t help Fury’s stock at all. His wins against him looking much less impressive now despite very entertaining at the time. Agree Wilder is done now, great to watch through his career though, that right hand was 🔥
I don’t see why Fury’s stock should go down, he’s the only one who beat Wilder in his prime, everyone else is just using Fury’s blue print to beat a washed up wilder
@@agnikaineverdies7646yeah that’ also could be true. Looking at Wilder’s resume now though, it’s beginning to look like as soon when he’s stepped up, he gets beat
@@greenymeista, Stepped up to what?? Everyone Wilder fought from beating stiverne onwards were ranked in the top 10-15 by the WBC, the only thing on Wilder’s resume that you can’t forgive were the 35+ tomato cans on his resume before he became champ but from that point onwards he was only fighting ranked contenders
He a great career. Got in the game late to take care of his family, became champion, held it for five years, and had an amazing trilogy with fury ( which i proposed to my wife at the second fight) . Nothing but respect to him.
Finished? He never got started!! He Wouldn't have beaten Fury, Parker or Zhang at any point of his career. He,ll be as good as ever if he goes back to fighting bums.
The big issue that's outside Deontay's control is that no one's scared of him now. That fear really tripped up his opponents. Without it, they're just going to attack him and put him on the backfoot. I'd rather see him retire than get fed to the younger fighters so they can get a name on their record. Him doing the Jared Anderson fight would be a mistake. He needs to call it good and enjoy the fruits of his labor.
agree. retire now please. By the way, props for pointing out his original motivation. Any father who truly does things to help their child should be applauded. Sure, he's something of a buffoon but he doesn't seem like a mean or hateful guy. enjoy your retirement and your family Mr Wilder.
When a fighter can't pull the trigger anymore than its over.. Wilders only ever weapon has been in his right hand and now hes so weary to let it go he's just getting bullied around the ring because he has nothing else to fall back on and last night he was knocked out badly. The guys made alot of money for his family to be comfortable for years to come and he can get into other ventures like maybe film and tv. He dont need to be in the ring anymore
I can give him his props, but I'm not sorry that he lost. Just watch all the videos of him talking shit about other fighters, especially AJ, and you'll be laughing at this knock out. Just wait until he starts making excuses & talking shit about Zhang, instead of being gracious in defeat, you sympathy will go out the window
It’s sad to see people saying wilder was never any good. It’s clear he’s shot just look at his jab now compared to what it used to be. An underrated punch of his. He’s now doubt the Ron Lyle/earnie/norton of this era.
I think a lot of people are incorrectly saying wilder is finished because of these two losses… he never was any good. When he was the wbc champ he was heavily protected so no one really knew how good he was. His biggest fight outside of fury was Ortiz and he was almost stopped in the first fight. Fury and wilder single handedly conned the public in to thinking they were the top in the division when they were defending against contenders outside of the top 10. I think wilder would have always lost to the likes of Parker and zhang.
I think wilder teaming up with Malik Scott is where it all went wrong. Malik Scott trained wilder to be a boxer rather than capitalising off the fact wilder is puncher. I don’t understand their strategy, wilder be fighting to get the centre of ring instead he’s moving backwards and allowing his opponent to be the aggressor. Malik Scott has literally turn’t wilder into Malik Scott. I’m just as confused as how wilder looked in the ring last night
Sad way to end for Wilder. Hes definitely not the fighter he once was. Think a lot of people will question his and Furys legacies after recent performances but I think thats pretty unfair. Neither Wilder or Fury are anywhere near the levels they once were. Wilders made his bag and he can leave proud of a good career.
Wilder was never the fighter people were making him out to be. He dodged quality opposition his entire career, has footwork that would embarrass quite a few amateurs and got found out as soon as he took on better opponents.
@@samhunter1205 Yep but Wilder was 100% not the fighter he once was against Parker and Zhang. The smiling and laughing after the Parker fight talking about the epiphany's he had showed he'd lost the dawg in him he once had.
@@eazyollie9370 Wilder is 38 so I am sure he has slowed down a bit, but I don't really see anything from this fight, or the Parker one, that I wouldn't have expected 5 years ago. Even in his prime, what has Wilder ever done to convince anyone he was a top heavyweight? He knocked out journeymen, and looked terrible doing it - literally anyone who knows boxing could have picked out multiple serious technical flaws in Wilder's game. I honestly find Wilder's lack of footwork offensive. This is his full time job FFS, and he quite obviously couldn't be arsed to learn some basic fundamentals. And don't give me these 'well he started boxing late' excuses. I know amateur boxers who have taken up the sport as a hobby with less than 3 years experience training part time who have better footwork than Wilder, and sadly that isn't hyperbole.
@@samhunter1205 See that's the whole problem. Yeah Wilder has always been fundamentally terrible but he was once willing to fight to the death though and throw everything he had. He's just a shell of his former self now.
As soon as wilder stepped up in competition his lack of fundamentals became apparent. His right hand was his only weapon and the guys who knew how to fight like Fury and even old man Ortiz were able to negate it more so than others. Ortiz was up in both fights before he got caught
Parker beat Wilder, Zhang beat Wilder, Zhang beat Hrgovic, Zhang beat Joyce, Joyce beat Dubious, Joyce beat Parker, Parker beat Zhang, Dubious beat Hrgovic 😅 HWs today get a lot of crap but they've made some fun fights
You said it was he particularly dangerous for Wilder against Dubois. I think AJ would absolutely annihilate Dubois and it would be far more dangerous for Wilder to fight Joshua. I do agree he needs to retire,though.
-Unmotivated and gun shy Klitschko -swerved the rematch -ducked AJ -fought Wilder after Wilder broke his arm in camp and has one weapon -seven world title fights, 3 against the same guy with one weapon, washed up Whyte and Chisora and battered by Usyk -only 3 defences (same as Usyk (Joshua, Dubois and Fury) -ducked AJ again -washed up Dillian Whyte who had no punch resistance at the time of the fight -CHISORA -NGANNOU -battered by Usyk This is TYSON LUKE FURY
I don't think it especially helped Joseph Parker, how bad both fighters looked. Great day for Dubois though. Proved he could go through the fire; by a mile the biggest win of his career and should get Joshua next.
Most protected fighter ive ever seen. He wasted the majority of his career fighting easy fights, now hes fighting decent opposition because he has to, it shows. In 10 years he'll be forgotten about about when people talk about this era of boxing. Shame as if he developed his career by taking on progressively harder fights, who knows how he might have developed even if he took a few loses he might have been able to come back stronger. Now this late in his career with every loss we'll only see him degrade.
I'll be honest, I'm not sad about this at all. This is exactly how I figured his career would end. Boxing will always clean itself out and start over. I'm glad it does. Now, we can forget about him and move on
@@VDViktor power is the last thing to go.When Wilder got clipped,he threw a vicious right hand that missed,if that shot had landed,Zhang would have been in deep trouble.
Some say WIlder was broken by the Fury fights ; I'm not so sure. Taking ayahuasca was about as bad a move as a pro boxer can make ; he was never going to be the same after that.
People love dumping on Wilder. He was a puncher and never a true boxer. Deffo overhyped. But... AJ avoided him like the plague. In fact, lots of fighters avoided him for years because of that Right. He's toast now, and was never great, but his Right was indeed feared by the best fighters of his time. And what he did for his daughter should be respected by every father out there.
Looks like an old man, those Fury fights took everything he had. One of the only negatives about Saudi money is we are going to get fighters carrying on too long to get that money. Hope he retires and I hope the Saudis don't start tempting him and wheeling him out as a stepping stone by paying him big money.
Are we not going to mention the cuts of hrgovic being from headbutts?? What do the rules say for that and when it comes to stopping the fight. But good win by dubois, there both around the same level, both 0 defense and dubois lucky hrgovic seems to have lost his power, because he was getting caught clean multiple times, the way i see it all these fighters are around the same level. It goes usyk>aj>fury>all the rest
Father time waits for no man. Not saying this was the only factor of his downfall because all in all hes never actually beaten a top level opponent. That being said we shouldn't look back and take the wins away from fury. Wilder despite his shortcomings was a scary man, fat lumps or not the guys he fought were being KOd in spectacular fashion. In the heavyweight division power takes you far
Ya see look what happens when you have a padded record, a protected career. He cannot beat anyone at the top level. Heavyweights can get by with a big punch but even they will fail at the higher levels. Fury has also been very well manoeuvred in his career, and although he is a great boxer with physical advantages, he hasn’t lived the life hence an even older man has just beat him. Because that man Usyk has lived the life, and fought the very best. Fury’s two possible last fights Usyk and Joshua, who’s your money on?
Wilder landed the right flush got all of it in Rd 5, it didn't look massive but many of Wilder rights don't that knocked people cold like Ortiz 2, Helenius, Washington, Ortiz 1 first knock down. Truth is Zhang is a big man with a big head and he took it and would take more than 1 right hand or 2 he did land 2, where as Wilder has never had a good chin always been vulnerable to getting hurt was his heart that kept him going in Fury fights. Wilder landed first but Zhang took it and Wilder couldn't take Zhang's. That was it, the counter left right hook was same hook Ortiz hurt Wilder in first fight Zhang is even bigger and hits even harder. Wilder has never just swung reckless like commentary said, he did once got opponents hurt but was always Conservative with punches and often not much rights he threw and often not much on them until he saw the moment and bang.
I wanted the AJ V Wilder fight, but that was a conclusive finish. Wilder still beat the count but the ref saved him. Wilder made tens of millions and doesn't need it anymore. Its his choice but I agree he should retire with all his faculties intact.
I think Wilder knew he was washed going into that fight, who talks about losing as much as he did , he mentioned it a few times. The old Wilder never would have even mentioned defeat. He must have had a bad camp and a bad feeling on top of it...
Wilder is still the same fighter ! But the top men jump on him and he doesn’t know how to deal with it , go look why he was kept away from strong hungry heavyweights who come to fight
Fury took an indirect L with this his paper thin resume took another blow
THIS!!
Facts! It's a shame it took so long for most to see.
Fury was the one who exposed Wilder, the other fighters are just following Fury’s blue print on a washed up Wilder
@agnikaineverdies7646 Fury beat a 40 year old man, Chisora three times and Wilder the worst boxer ever to be champion twice . Then lost to an mma fighter having his boxing debut, and a middleweight. The guys a fraud and just as over rated as Wilder was
The beatings Wilder took under Fury are the reason Deontay's career is coming to an end. If Fury was so piss poor, why didn't Usyk put him out in the first round?
Wilder was a PBC protected fighter with a padded record.
Should fight Adam Kownacki for the PBC Heavyweight Championship of the World
The worst heavyweight champion of all time. I can't believe this video. He consistently fought below average opponents. I'm glad he's finished and Fury should follow him.
🎯🎯🎯Spot on!!
@@DEBASER1202 so stiverne and Martin are better than wilder? Come on give me a break
Well said
I feel like Zhang might have done that to any version of Wilder
Agreed
Yeah wilder from 5 years ago might have been more aggressive and maybe lasted another round or two but he would of lost
Wilder from 5 to 6 years ago before fury, would of finished Zang & Parker
@@tcc3248, He would have finished Zhang but Wilder would have lost to Parker, Parker stylistically is just a nightmare for him
Ohhh he definitely would have!! Spot on mate 👍 Zhang is dozens of levels better than any version of wilder, Zhang with cardio beats ANYBODY.
Dubois' best career win at 26 is now better than Wilder's best career win at 38.
Crazy.
Dubois headbutted Hrgovic & should have been DQd.
I mean in my opinion prime Luis Ortiz is better than Hrgovic
dubois is straight in with the best, and he learns.
wilder was protected like he was gold.
Dubois best career win is him getting outboxed by an unproven fighter and cutting him with headbutts and the ref stopping it.
@@COMEBACKINGA Agreed - Dubois should have been DQd for fouling but the ref wasn't brave enough to disqualify Frank Warren's best HW prospect. He would never have refereed a boxing match ever again.
Biggest hype job in the history of boxing
His resume is filled with taxi drivers
But he had a career. He gave it a shot.
So what? He only started boxing to support his disabled daughter and look what he achieved.
No doubt, hard to feel sorry for a guy who constantly stated that he wanted to kill his opponents. Called himself the best but avoided all of his peers. Some of us always knew why that was and now the world knows.
@@mikeh1175you tell em because all the rest never had a good reason.
Admirable, not, amicable - but a touching sentiment nonetheless.
It's great to hear you giving genuine praise to a fighter at the end of their career, rather than the perfunctory "stick a fork in him".
(Which, I hasten to add, is quite funny.)
Wilder was never the same after facing Charlie Zelenoff
Gman, I liked the way you have credited Wilder, without jumping on his back for his below par performance. Let’s all appreciate what he has brought to boxing, particularly the courage and grit he showed during the Fury trilogy. Let’s hope he calls it a day for good.
It's sad that fight fans still think that " he has lost the killer instinct " It's about him fighting top level which is why he got exposed. If he fought Dominic Breazealle now he would knocked him out cold again, or if he step down with low opposition then you'll see the same fighter we have been seeing.
Dominic Brezeale is also a shot fighter that has suffered many knockout defeats and is also the same age as Wilder so Wilder beating him now wouldn’t disprove what people think
He has lost the killer instinct, though. Wilder was never a skilled fighter, but he always had the confidence and willingness to take chances.
That's how he was able to knock out Ortiz twice after being soundly outpointed all fight.
But this Wilder is gunshy, which means opponents are more willing to just walk him down. Completely different fighter.
I rate prime Wilder, certainly not gonna dismiss his whole career on the current sentiment, but this argument has merit
@@View619he tried to take chances lol his gambles just didn't pay off. Both times when zhang knocked him out and when parker rocked him they countered his right hand. Boxing is a SCIENCE at this level. Not a wild brawl
BS , Wilder looked great knocking out his old sparring partner three fights ago , he’s been so carefully protected and kept away from the top men for years , his resume is dreadful
Has to be one of the most protected champions ever. His best win is Ortiz, who himself has 1 decent win and was in his 40s on heart medication.
He’s in his 40s??? I thought he was older
@@IncredibleMet officially 40's (third world countries have bad paperwork) but probably 60's
Ortiz won every round until getting knocked out
@@grantbuttenshaw that doesn’t make Wilder look good like you think it does.
@@zh1992 no shit....I think he's a bum and always have.
I've won plenty of money betting against him.
Yes he should definitely retire. He should have retired after Fury trilogy. He was a protected fighter who outperformed his potential. He was found wanting when he stepped up. He provided excitement and was a long reigning champion. I hope he retires while he’s still healthy rather than be beaten by journeymen going forward.
He provided excitement when fighting low tier fighters. When there was a chance HE'S going to get hurt, where was he?
@@shaunvduke I agree.
Wilder fights like he is afraid, not that his timing is off. Its happened twice in a row now , and last nights performance was a futher indication that he could get hurt badly if he continues. Wilder looked uncertain and fearful even when he was being given instructions by his corner.
Shame we never got AJ v Wilder in 2018-2019. At that time this was the biggest fight in the world and I’m sure it would’ve been a great fight. Fair play to wilder, wish him the best.
Exactly. Should of been fought aj, ruiz , Zang & parker...but they didn't want to 7 years ago , but now they do
Everyone retires when they're ready, not when someone (who never boxed before) tells them to.
You remember when Povetkin knocked out David Price? Reminds me of what happened to Wilder last night.
Wilders first 30 fights were mostly cruiserweight cab drivers
That was really sad to see. Didnt even enjoy watching that one. Definitely needs to retire before he takes (more) serious damage. Hes given us enough.
Yeah felt sorry for him
Why? He knocked out 40+ cab drivers….he had this coming 😂
@@thebigsheethouse9965 yeah but he just looked like the amateur boxer he is in there. Parker and Zhang dealt with him better than Luke did
@@a.c.slater573 because he spent his whole career fighting poor position and that made him look like a killer.
@@a.c.slater573, Fury wilder 2??
One thing Wilder never lacked was bravery and a never give up attitude.
So true even when Zhang sparked him he still got up got to respect that 👏
Put a Gerald Washington, Brezeal or Helenius in front of Wilder right now, and he knocks them out. Wilder isnt finished, he's just never been able to beat quality opposition.
I truly believe he’s downfall was Malik Scott as a trainer.
Drop Malik, & go back to your original crew, that knows u.
The silly sausage shouldn’t have sacked Mark Breland. He’s lost 3/4 fights under Malik Scott.
Remember when Dazn offered Wilder $120m for Brezeale and 2 fights with AJ...LOL
And he turned it down and fought Brezeale for $10m 😂
And wanted to be loyal to showtime just to fight his next fight at Fox 😂
Wilder's resume is so full of delivery drivers Just Eat are seriously thinking about taking legal action against for taking away their staff.
When Wilder got up last night he was still in a better state than Fury was when he was allowed to continue against Usyk.
Even though Wilder was technically flawed and avoided many top fighters, I don't like to call on someone's retirement. Particularly when he got up for the count like Tyson Fury in their first fight. I am not saying that he would've survived, but hey, you never know.
The old guard of this HW division time is pretty much up.
Great work last night G the work ethic is crazy
Wilder completely gun shy. Had no chance fighting on backfoot. Really wanted him to win to set AJ fight up. Sad to know we'll never get that fight. Fury completely changed him as a fighter. Had a couple of glimpes where he went for it. But tbh i think its sad to see wilder go out like that. The trilogy with fury was class and probably his best performance even tho he lost. That 5 stone difference is crazy. I do believe bridgerweight is wilders best chance to get a belt. He just cant cut it with the big boys. Hes naturally too small. Okolie another fraud getting belts.
Thing is he doesn't throw a jab anymore so he would still lose at cruiserweight or bridgerweight
Ye most likely he's beyond repair. Malik Scott not done him any favours. Looks good hitting pads but in a fight looks dog shit. Wilder tbh has had a great career for his boxing ability. Probably should've tried sugar Hill seek snd destroy style. Just go for it but it seems the dogs left him
But okolie is shocking most boring fighter I've ever seen. God knows how he keeps getting belts. Just looks good against polish amazon workers
Okolie vs wilder 😆
And yet Usyk beats all of them? Wilder is not too small he was never good enough. Top work from his management- they squeezed the most out of his underwhelming talents. Its a shame they and the WBC hurt boxing to do it.
Called out Aj for 7 years and actively took steps to avoid signing deals to fight him. So glad hell be gone from boxing forever
Them fights with Fury were brutal. That right hand just doesn't fire the same. He actually looks like he as the boxing yips where he can't let it go.
Fury & Malik changed his form. If he stayed with Mark breland & stayed wild & unpredictable, which makes him who he is, he's dangerous. The 5 years spent fighting fury. If he fought zhang, Parker, ruiz, aj & countless others instead , it would be a perfect retirement .. all these soul cleansing & regiments he doing. Years off from fights, family trouble at home, plus old age has caught up with him
Still beat nobody, useless. Bumpower only.
Boxing is levels ~ Wilder is nowhere near world or elite level. Wilders best win is against a man who went life and death with Dave Allen.
Ortiz did not go life and death with Dave Allen 😂
Lmao talk about exaggeration. Ortiz destroyed Allen ans it wasn't even competitive 😂😂😂
@@murozman exactly! 😂
Yes it's time for Wilder to retire
Wilder imo some of the most wasted potential
Wasted potential? Lmao he’s lucky he got where he got cherry picking and people taking a dive when fighting him
@@marshtermind yes wasted potential, weighs 210lbs, with a nuclear right hand and with a late start still managed to win a bronze medal in the olympics.
Had he actually focused on improving on his skills instead of preferring cheerleaders over actual trainers he could have had a much better career. But he’d rather not focus on improving his skills and he’d rather face lesser competition, you bringing that up is just making my point.
Gman totally agree.
For me, emphasis me. The moment that effected his head. Was, after mullering Fury in the First fight he turned to the crowd and did his cut throat thing. Forget what happened after and the subsequent 2 fights.
Just look at his face when Fury rose from the dead. The camera does pan to him.
It is a picture of absolute disbelief.
So not the boxing worlds, his in his head of invincibility was questioned.
Hence the weight gain for the next 2 fights.
Only an opinion, please do not crucify me.
I hope Mark Breland put a few bucks down on this fight.
What about the rest off the card? Hamzah sheeraz perforce nick ball ?
To be fair to Fury, Wilder was feared to an extent - everyone knew his skills were extremely limited but he had that right hand.
The Fury trilogy massively damaged him.
No-one feared him, people offered him 100m to unify and become undisputed and he chose a retired fat man instead
The Malik Scott effect. The worst thing Wilder ever did was get rid of Mark Breland.
And the pbc fans boys have now been silenced finally 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly, this is one of the best boxing channels, and I love the content! But now, however, nearly every video has jib at fury
This doesn’t help Fury’s stock at all. His wins against him looking much less impressive now despite very entertaining at the time. Agree Wilder is done now, great to watch through his career though, that right hand was 🔥
Just had a thought, maybe Fury battered the life out of him over the 3 fights and finished his career? Hmm 🤔 maybe we’ll never know the real answer
I don’t see why Fury’s stock should go down, he’s the only one who beat Wilder in his prime, everyone else is just using Fury’s blue print to beat a washed up wilder
@@agnikaineverdies7646yeah that’ also could be true. Looking at Wilder’s resume now though, it’s beginning to look like as soon when he’s stepped up, he gets beat
@@greenymeista, Stepped up to what?? Everyone Wilder fought from beating stiverne onwards were ranked in the top 10-15 by the WBC, the only thing on Wilder’s resume that you can’t forgive were the 35+ tomato cans on his resume before he became champ but from that point onwards he was only fighting ranked contenders
@@agnikaineverdies7646 that’s fair but I really mean top 5, the cream of the crop.
He a great career. Got in the game late to take care of his family, became champion, held it for five years, and had an amazing trilogy with fury ( which i proposed to my wife at the second fight) . Nothing but respect to him.
Crazy how you respect all of the excuse, lies and sacking Mark Breland.
A good family man, not the best sportsman. He should retire and be the good family man.
@@mmfood3004 I respect any Man or woman who puts on a pair of gloves and gets in the ring or cage.
@@TheChatterBoxPodcastshow Like I said, crazy that you respect excuses, lies and the disrespectful treatment of a great trainer but do your thing.
@@mmfood3004 lol so because you put like I said is supposed to change something?
Finished? He never got started!! He Wouldn't have beaten Fury, Parker or Zhang at any point of his career. He,ll be as good as ever if he goes back to fighting bums.
The big issue that's outside Deontay's control is that no one's scared of him now. That fear really tripped up his opponents. Without it, they're just going to attack him and put him on the backfoot. I'd rather see him retire than get fed to the younger fighters so they can get a name on their record. Him doing the Jared Anderson fight would be a mistake. He needs to call it good and enjoy the fruits of his labor.
Wilder should blame himself and his management for spending his whole career knocking out taxi drivers.
😂
He should retire together with Tyson, Filip, Joe Joice and Mr Derek
Tyson at least still has something to offer
Filip lost one fight 😂 he can easily get back to training and salvage some career wtf.
Filip said he will be gone if can not win this fight
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Would love to see gypsy queen gone same as I was waiting for Klitschko to be gone
Hrgovic is only 31 😂
agree. retire now please. By the way, props for pointing out his original motivation. Any father who truly does things to help their child should be applauded. Sure, he's something of a buffoon but he doesn't seem like a mean or hateful guy. enjoy your retirement and your family Mr Wilder.
When a fighter can't pull the trigger anymore than its over.. Wilders only ever weapon has been in his right hand and now hes so weary to let it go he's just getting bullied around the ring because he has nothing else to fall back on and last night he was knocked out badly. The guys made alot of money for his family to be comfortable for years to come and he can get into other ventures like maybe film and tv. He dont need to be in the ring anymore
I can give him his props, but I'm not sorry that he lost. Just watch all the videos of him talking shit about other fighters, especially AJ, and you'll be laughing at this knock out. Just wait until he starts making excuses & talking shit about Zhang, instead of being gracious in defeat, you sympathy will go out the window
It’s sad to see people saying wilder was never any good. It’s clear he’s shot just look at his jab now compared to what it used to be. An underrated punch of his. He’s now doubt the Ron Lyle/earnie/norton of this era.
I think a lot of people are incorrectly saying wilder is finished because of these two losses… he never was any good. When he was the wbc champ he was heavily protected so no one really knew how good he was. His biggest fight outside of fury was Ortiz and he was almost stopped in the first fight.
Fury and wilder single handedly conned the public in to thinking they were the top in the division when they were defending against contenders outside of the top 10. I think wilder would have always lost to the likes of Parker and zhang.
No jab at all. He used to at least have a decent 1-2
Against who? On the back foot he has zero tools.
Malik has him in the back foot, mark & his original crew , is the wilder of old
I think wilder teaming up with Malik Scott is where it all went wrong. Malik Scott trained wilder to be a boxer rather than capitalising off the fact wilder is puncher.
I don’t understand their strategy, wilder be fighting to get the centre of ring instead he’s moving backwards and allowing his opponent to be the aggressor.
Malik Scott has literally turn’t wilder into Malik Scott. I’m just as confused as how wilder looked in the ring last night
Wilder looked terrified during that whole fight shane to see tyson fury beat the fighter out of him
Sad way to end for Wilder. Hes definitely not the fighter he once was. Think a lot of people will question his and Furys legacies after recent performances but I think thats pretty unfair. Neither Wilder or Fury are anywhere near the levels they once were. Wilders made his bag and he can leave proud of a good career.
Zhang showed that Fury and Wilder are useless frauds.
Wilder was never the fighter people were making him out to be. He dodged quality opposition his entire career, has footwork that would embarrass quite a few amateurs and got found out as soon as he took on better opponents.
@@samhunter1205 Yep but Wilder was 100% not the fighter he once was against Parker and Zhang. The smiling and laughing after the Parker fight talking about the epiphany's he had showed he'd lost the dawg in him he once had.
@@eazyollie9370 Wilder is 38 so I am sure he has slowed down a bit, but I don't really see anything from this fight, or the Parker one, that I wouldn't have expected 5 years ago. Even in his prime, what has Wilder ever done to convince anyone he was a top heavyweight? He knocked out journeymen, and looked terrible doing it - literally anyone who knows boxing could have picked out multiple serious technical flaws in Wilder's game. I honestly find Wilder's lack of footwork offensive. This is his full time job FFS, and he quite obviously couldn't be arsed to learn some basic fundamentals. And don't give me these 'well he started boxing late' excuses. I know amateur boxers who have taken up the sport as a hobby with less than 3 years experience training part time who have better footwork than Wilder, and sadly that isn't hyperbole.
@@samhunter1205 See that's the whole problem. Yeah Wilder has always been fundamentally terrible but he was once willing to fight to the death though and throw everything he had. He's just a shell of his former self now.
How any real boxing fan can get satisfaction from watching big, immobile lumps getting knocked out clean, is beyond me!
As soon as wilder stepped up in competition his lack of fundamentals became apparent. His right hand was his only weapon and the guys who knew how to fight like Fury and even old man Ortiz were able to negate it more so than others. Ortiz was up in both fights before he got caught
He left his killer instinct in the jungle after that trip. Whole different man now. Time to call it quits.
Well, that trip will serve him well as life goes on. He seems at peace.
That was the slowest most inactive fight I've seen since Haye vs Audley Harrison.
Parker beat Wilder, Zhang beat Wilder, Zhang beat Hrgovic, Zhang beat Joyce, Joyce beat Dubious, Joyce beat Parker, Parker beat Zhang, Dubious beat Hrgovic 😅 HWs today get a lot of crap but they've made some fun fights
5 years an eternity in professional sports. As is one year.
You said it was he particularly dangerous for Wilder against Dubois. I think AJ would absolutely annihilate Dubois and it would be far more dangerous for Wilder to fight Joshua. I do agree he needs to retire,though.
Well it was a fun ride until it wasn't. Til this day!😅
-Unmotivated and gun shy Klitschko
-swerved the rematch
-ducked AJ
-fought Wilder after Wilder broke his arm in camp and has one weapon
-seven world title fights, 3 against the same guy with one weapon, washed up Whyte and Chisora and battered by Usyk
-only 3 defences (same as Usyk (Joshua, Dubois and Fury)
-ducked AJ again
-washed up Dillian Whyte who had no punch resistance at the time of the fight
-CHISORA
-NGANNOU
-battered by Usyk
This is TYSON LUKE FURY
I don't think it especially helped Joseph Parker, how bad both fighters looked.
Great day for Dubois though. Proved he could go through the fire; by a mile the biggest win of his career and should get Joshua next.
Most protected fighter ive ever seen.
He wasted the majority of his career fighting easy fights, now hes fighting decent opposition because he has to, it shows.
In 10 years he'll be forgotten about about when people talk about this era of boxing.
Shame as if he developed his career by taking on progressively harder fights, who knows how he might have developed even if he took a few loses he might have been able to come back stronger.
Now this late in his career with every loss we'll only see him degrade.
If Wilder had spent less time golfing & more time training in the gym then things might have turned out differently.
Please don't use the Gym as an excuse for getting fit... it's actually training "outside"
@@raydology Are you saying that playing golf is a good form of boxing training?
@@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl Nope...you can't be thinking "Playing" (which you said) and Training (Which is what I said) is conducive to "Endurance"
Wilder is amongst improving boxers who can read his strategy.
Be warned,Joseph Parker is one to watch out for,hes changed from mild to optimus prime.
I'll be honest, I'm not sad about this at all. This is exactly how I figured his career would end. Boxing will always clean itself out and start over. I'm glad it does. Now, we can forget about him and move on
The best “chicken legs” fighter in modern boxing history, maybe of all time.
Wilder should go to bridgerweight or cruiser weight if he plans to continue
All he did last night was hold his left arm in front of him,with his right arm cocked,it was wierd to watch.
It was inevitable!
Let's be honest!..we've all been sayin it for years 👍✌️
the wilder fanboys was saying he could knockout and beat AJ but ran away from him
Wilder was just getting warmed up then he got clipped then walked in to the ko
Wilder is not done by any stretch of the imagination because he still has that power in his right hand.
So…where was that power yesterday?
@@VDViktor power is the last thing to go.When Wilder got clipped,he threw a vicious right hand that missed,if that shot had landed,Zhang would have been in deep trouble.
*Wilders got shades of Dave Price*
Some say WIlder was broken by the Fury fights ; I'm not so sure. Taking ayahuasca was about as bad a move as a pro boxer can make ; he was never going to be the same after that.
People love dumping on Wilder. He was a puncher and never a true boxer. Deffo overhyped.
But...
AJ avoided him like the plague. In fact, lots of fighters avoided him for years because of that Right.
He's toast now, and was never great, but his Right was indeed feared by the best fighters of his time.
And what he did for his daughter should be respected by every father out there.
Looks like an old man, those Fury fights took everything he had. One of the only negatives about Saudi money is we are going to get fighters carrying on too long to get that money. Hope he retires and I hope the Saudis don't start tempting him and wheeling him out as a stepping stone by paying him big money.
Never seen wilder ko a joyce 😅 zhangs 41 puts these young bucks to shame😅😅😅
It’s great to see these fools getting laid out . Him and fury have been such a bad taste in boxing
If Wilder continues boxing hes gonna become a journeyman.
He fought like a one armed man, strange he is hesitant to let his right go these days.
It's not the same with Malik
Are we not going to mention the cuts of hrgovic being from headbutts?? What do the rules say for that and when it comes to stopping the fight. But good win by dubois, there both around the same level, both 0 defense and dubois lucky hrgovic seems to have lost his power, because he was getting caught clean multiple times, the way i see it all these fighters are around the same level. It goes usyk>aj>fury>all the rest
He held the division up, ducked AJ constantly, cherry picked his way through his career and made excuses when he lost. I’m glad he was beaten badly.
Father time waits for no man. Not saying this was the only factor of his downfall because all in all hes never actually beaten a top level opponent. That being said we shouldn't look back and take the wins away from fury. Wilder despite his shortcomings was a scary man, fat lumps or not the guys he fought were being KOd in spectacular fashion. In the heavyweight division power takes you far
Think Fury Usyk and Wilder need to retire unfortunately
Ya see look what happens when you have a padded record, a protected career. He cannot beat anyone at the top level. Heavyweights can get by with a big punch but even they will fail at the higher levels. Fury has also been very well manoeuvred in his career, and although he is a great boxer with physical advantages, he hasn’t lived the life hence an even older man has just beat him. Because that man Usyk has lived the life, and fought the very best. Fury’s two possible last fights Usyk and Joshua, who’s your money on?
Wilder landed the right flush got all of it in Rd 5, it didn't look massive but many of Wilder rights don't that knocked people cold like Ortiz 2, Helenius, Washington, Ortiz 1 first knock down.
Truth is Zhang is a big man with a big head and he took it and would take more than 1 right hand or 2 he did land 2, where as Wilder has never had a good chin always been vulnerable to getting hurt was his heart that kept him going in Fury fights.
Wilder landed first but Zhang took it and Wilder couldn't take Zhang's. That was it, the counter left right hook was same hook Ortiz hurt Wilder in first fight Zhang is even bigger and hits even harder.
Wilder has never just swung reckless like commentary said, he did once got opponents hurt but was always Conservative with punches and often not much rights he threw and often not much on them until he saw the moment and bang.
Makes fury look even more 5hite its not looking good for the fury legacy 😂😂😂
I wanted the AJ V Wilder fight, but that was a conclusive finish. Wilder still beat the count but the ref saved him. Wilder made tens of millions and doesn't need it anymore. Its his choice but I agree he should retire with all his faculties intact.
Wilder did what he could with what he had. He had some good bouts and went pretty far for only having a right hand and a lot of gumption.
I think Wilder knew he was washed going into that fight, who talks about losing as much as he did , he mentioned it a few times. The old Wilder never would have even mentioned defeat. He must have had a bad camp and a bad feeling on top of it...
Wilder is still the same fighter ! But the top men jump on him and he doesn’t know how to deal with it , go look why he was kept away from strong hungry heavyweights who come to fight
Malik Scott hasn't got the best out of Wilde
Wish Wilder retired after Helenius. Signature KO. Keep tht aura. Protect ya reputation. Go out wit a W.
Human Beans are born & Bread for war 🥊😂
AJ v Wilder is still a big fight