I remember my brain just flying through books as soon as I could start stringing words together. It felt as if I had suddenly gained a superpower. I can't imagine my childhood without the magic of literacy and all the adventures that books inspired in my imagination and in my life.
You expressed the blessing of being able to read the written word perfectly. At 81 I still read constantly. With the internet thousands upon thousands of volumes of information is available. It’s really a dream come true. It is sad to think that Ully is missing out.
Exactly! Learning to read is the base of learning at all! The stories and encyclopedies I read. Then internet - I didnt have internet acess till I was 14. Thanks to Internet I learned English, and now I can get new info from new sources! Its like unlocking new level. Totally random facts that ended up stuck in my head since I was kid, and at the end of the day shaped my common knowledge. These kids have absolutely no idea what can world offer, and its so sad.
I know right. The one thing she didn't monitor. She should have a little bit. L.O.L 😅 It's why I never told anyone what I was reading. My secret glorious world.
This approach seems more for the parents benefit than anytning else. Theyre just projecting their childhood desires on to their children and living vicariously through them.
I don't know. I also believe strongly that children should find their own way. I also think that even though they need to find their own way they need guidance from their parents. You have a lot of parents who do the traditional way but don't listen at all to what their children want. I don't agree that they don't teach their children anything because someone who is 8 should be able to read. So I think it's good for children to find their own way. But I think they did a little bit of an exaggeration.
@@TRW98 I don't think children can forsee the ramifications of their choices at such a young age. Age 18 is when we get to 'reasonably foreseeable' forecasting (at least according to the Dunedin Studies).
People in general do that. Look at the comments. One wrote about having to be forced to eat Brussel sprouts so everything was okay with these kids because one guy was eating them. Another is okay with this because school was a horrible experience for them. We, in general, need to look at a broader viewpoint and not solely on our own feelings and experiences. I do understand people do that. Everyone is different.
People who are using the system .... would rather not .... if they were mentally able to solve their personal problems. But they are not able to. Therefore they are dependent on the system. Sometimes I guess we would be better of without the system. Some people are allowed to remain "in the system" for the rest of their lives. They are not met with any demands, and challenges that would help them start working and earning their own money again.
@@VikingshopWhere I live you have too atleast apply for jobs (Show that they are trying) System still don’t care though wether you get that job or not as long as trying 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️
The 8 year old is in such a bad situation. He sits looking at an ipad and sitting like a monkey on a rock; huddled in a dirty room full of clutter hunched over uncooked and uncut vegetables interacting/behaving like a 4 year old with the host. His parents are not seeing his isolation and ability to act like his baby sisters bc he isnt being "asked to do more" or level up to keep up with his mates (i.e. nothing required but just kids and humans naturally try to keep pace with the group - helping them all grow and progress in various social and behavioral skills).
I do agree with letting kids learn through exploring, and having both parents very present. But also structured learning, routine, and rules are good for kids.
@@joycedominguez8997They can become a reseacher studying insects later in life. A lot of kids have an interest in smaller animals-frogs, small reptiles, insects,
I had a friend raised this way. Although her and her brother were in school. Their parents let them do whatever they wanted. Both kids dropped out of highschool. Brother died of drug OD at age 30 after 15 or more years of addiction. My friend left her husband and 3 kids and has no contact with her children. She's 30 and parties everyday. Didn't turn out well for that family.
Our constitutional court in Italy had stated that no education (school and behaviour) should be equally defined as abuse. I can’t be more agree with it.
@RainRemnant in the U.S., it's considered neglect and will get your children taken from you. These parents are ignorant to the fact that they're doing a huge disservice to their children and their capability on becoming productive members of society.
@@MiaMore. earlier this year I was reported to social services bc my daughter had missed so many days… they closed the case after one interview with me bc there was a specific issue at the root and I was addressing it
They say they're letting them make their own choices but in reality they're actually taking away any choices of theirs but not letting them get an education...because when they're older if they want to do a job they love they won't be able to because their parents couldn't even teach them the basics of life
I think they're just being lazy to be honest . . . it's hard work to get and keep children on a schedule, make sure they get an education, properly fed, teach them how to socialize and discipline them when they do something wrong . . . a lot easier, letting their kids do what ever they want, go to bed and eat what ever they want, when ever they feel like it and let the kids decide what they want to learn. . .wonder if their kids will be very grateful, when they end up growing up with no basic or social skills and no concept of laws or common sense . . .
I have a friend who is the oldest of nine children. Their parents homeschooled all of them, and none of them graduated or received a diploma/GED. One of them likely has an undiagnosed learning disability. My friend cleans homes for a living because she can’t find anything that doesn’t require a GED. There is nothing wrong with that as a career choice if it’s what you’ve specifically chosen, but it’s sad that her options are so limited. Her parents did them all such a disservice.
The love will win at the end. Eventually these kids will go through a puberty period along with the anger and disillusionment toward their parents for NOT having given them clear boundaries and discipline. They will hate their parents for a while. If everyone can get through that phase they'll end up ok. But yeah, it's going to be a lot harder for these kids to learn some things. Maybe.
The parents could be reading to them I was reading n writing when I entered K I couldn’t spell well tho. Drove my parents nuts asking for spelling words I was writing for a story-I have a memory lol
@@barbarad3869 I think that's the main reason why their idea of children educating themselves won't work. If they grew up on, say, a farm raising animals and cultivating plants and building things and watching their parents and neighbours read lots of books, do crafts, play instruments and get together to discuss anything from social issues to recipes, they would develop a natural interest in learning all kinds of things. But once you introduce screens, they are so addictive they'll obliterate any curiosity the child may have had. It's sad to see they don't even have meals together as a family. I'm not saying you can't learn anything from screens but would your 8 year old self have rather played Mario Cart or played learning games?
It doesn't always work though. I learned how to read that way but I read a lot to both of my kids and none of them has a particular interest in letters and their meaning, so my older son didn't learn until he started school at 6 and a half (we live in Austria so everything is play based until that age). It's kind of sad but my son had to be forced to learn how to read and write and the first year of school was a real struggle. I'm glad we came out the other end because now at almost 8 he finally realised how much indepence it gives him to be able to look up his science and biology stuff that he loves by himself and now he really enjoys school. If I had let him do what he wanted, he'd be doing Lego sets at a 12+ level but still wouldn't be able to write his name.
He doesn't believe in the system, but in the meantime he lives from it. Please go live somewhere in the woods in your own hut and be self-sufficient so that others don't have to finance your craziness.
I worked with a Jehovah’s Witness who also didn’t believe in the system, birth control or sex outside of marriage. We worked a a federally funded community health center.. Ironically She worked in the planned parenthood department. Can’t make this 💩 up
The fact that the son is teaching himself how to read via an app shows how little they meant what they said about teaching him when he's interested, also I don't think he would ever become interested if it weren't for the host here asking him if he knew how to
Duh, kids will grow an interest by things they come across in life. He came across someone who put an emphasis on reading, thus how he became interested in it
Children learn to read because they are read to, because they live in societies that have words and things that require reading, because they are curious. Children learn naturally. Unschooled children definitely have the tools they need to make it in the world. Higher education institutions usually really enjoy having home-schooled, which can include unschooled, children because they are intelligent, out of the box thinkers with unique experiences, ideas, and perspectives.
@@suzannenorton3807 children don't learn to read naturally though. We know this because there are still illiterate people in the world who were never taught to read, despite being in a world surrounded by words. The Pandemic caused a setback for children. They're taught to read between kindergarten and first grade. But many children never received those fundamentals, and are struggling with basic reading today. My mother is a reading teacher. People take for granted the years they went from being read to-- to being a reader themselves. We take for granted the importance of our own literacy. I'll also add that the government used to count on the fact that poor people and minorities couldn't read well enough to vote, which is why the electoral college exists. So that only the wealthy and most educated -white- men were voting for office. But when the rest of the country learned to read, it was a game changer and rocked elections. To your other point, I was a home schooled individual. I don't think any college I applied to cared that I was homeschooled. Only that I had good enough grades, and could keep up academically.... and I couldn't keep up socially, I'll tell you that much!
A father "laughing" that his 8 year old that can't read or write his own name. Shameful. This is ridiculous. Those kids don't have a chance at self survival in the real world. Sad.
I remember hearing a story about two families living next to each other. One was strict and the other was like this family. The kids from the strict family complained that their parents (especially their father) were very strict while the other family's kids got to do whatever they wanted and their father constantly bought them presents. Forward years later: The kids of the strict family visited the parents often. The father once apologized to his kids for being so strict. The kids rebutted that he was the greatest father anyone could have had. Meanwhile, the kids of the other family hated their parents and never visited them and blamed them for anything difficult in their lives. Moral to the story: Kids need structure!
This is totally illegal in the netherlands, It's been proven that there is a time window where kids pick up on reading and writing (and speech) within certain time windows. If you ignore those time windows youre setting your child up for failure this is total child neglect :(
It's illegal in England too! I just googled it... school is compulsory from 5-16. I want to know how they're getting around it. If Ulyses cannot spell his name at 8 yrs old he HAS to be faililng the required benchmarks for his grade level (which would be grade 3rd grade). How are these parents not in prison???
The parents are utopian, they home school and maybe the kids aren't prepared for a life beyond the sort of freedom inside the house, maybe will exist only on benefits too.
I think they are a really loving family and they think that they are making wise choices, but failing to teach them about reading and having consistent schedules for sleep and nourishment is really harmful to these children. I actually feel sorry for the kids. Reading is SUCH a joy that they are keeping from their children.
some kids just dont want to read but reading to them is a encouraging moment for them to start to want to learn theres actually nothing wrong with this family at all just the education thats all the dads gives them really good foods as u can see is well
I came here to say the same thing, it's the lack of reading and writing skills and basic maths that really bothers me. Some children may be naturally curious in all areas but for example my 7 year old wouldn't touch a pencil until he absolutely had to. He just had zero interest in drawing and even less in writing, loved to be read to but didn't care about reading at all. If I had asked him if he wanted to go to school, he'd definitely have preferred to stay home doing Legos all day and he'd still be doing that now he's almost 8. But instead, even though it was hard for him to learn how to write, now he's really happy he can read his comic books all by himself and he's starting to discover that writing little notes and letters can be fun too. And of course he's making friends in school, improving his social skills etc, that's another thing they are depriving their children of. I'm not saying school is a must but children need to interact with more than just their parents and siblings.
I thought the kids ate very healthily. Would you be concerned if it was a "normal" family eating each dinner "normal" food, like hamburgers, fries, pasta etc. I know so many kids with a bad diet. I think at least these kids are eating their vegetables. Also, time will tell if he wants to learn to read and write. It's too early now to say that. If he doesn't maybe he will work on a farm where he doesn't need this skill. It will be his own choice weather or not he wants to learn it. He can't blame anyone because he knows he is the captain of his ship. Not his parents, not his teachers. He will learn that he is responsible for himself. So if he can't read and that bothers him, he can still learn it. And if it doesn't bother him, why should it bother us?
I could not remain so quiet and professional when both the parents are spouting such unscientific, potentially dangerous but definitely irresponsible dribble... I'm well impressed by her!!
@@lilithbernstein Ikr… she kind of reminds me of the Red Cross. Like “I don’t condone this in any way but staying neutral & respectful is the only way they’re gonna let someone in to expose the issue”
The schoolsystem prepares you for a job, that benefits the economie, it teaches to obey, it is not to devellop happy smart people. I hate school and im 50😂. I feel so sorry for my kids.
My childhood was exactely like that. Iam 40 now and i have to go to therapy for many years, because rules in childhood give security an excercise and hope. For me it was an absolutely nightmare.
What was the nightmare? U wanted to study and they wouldn’t get u the materials? Or u just were ostracized among ur friends or lived way out and ur parents didn’t visit other fams so u had none? Or ur parents were drug users? Or just simple neglect no one paid attention to you, narcissism, some are extreme?
@@YeshuaKingMessiahwell the nightmare is exactly what she just said! No rules. Because rules in childhood give much needed stability. Kids need this stability, they need to know when it’s time for bed and when to wake up… they need a schedule to feel secure. Of course they need freedom and have to have a say in it! BUT they need their parent’s rules as a support system. Because in this household they have to be the "leader" they are entirely on their own and whatever the decision they make… even if it might harm them… their parents won’t reassure them or guide them into a better future! There are countless of parenting guides that have already shown us that a set of easy and understandable guide lines are crucial for the development of children and that is completely natural! Children, just like animals(!), have a natural drive to learn the way their species is supposed to behave and what to do. It gives them security when faced with challenges because they got a few "key behaviours" they can use to take on that challenge and master it! Animals reprimand their kids just like humans this is how we learn! There is nothing wrong in listening to your kids interests and indulging them, but that’s not what’s happening here! For example a kid taking an interest to dinosaurs would have the parent finding books in that topic and reading them to or with the child.. researching the topic and thus throw in learning how to read and write, something about history and geography as well as about evolution… But those parents here? They just put their kids outside and say "run off learn something about being g physically active and smell this plant while you’re on it!" Those kids can’t "self learn" or develop an interest when they aren’t exposed to things they might inquire about!! It comes off as lazy parenting!
As an educator, this is fine to do to some extent before age 4/5, but once kindergarten comes around, they really shouldn’t be holding them back from learning academics. Learning how to read and do basic math is needed for everything. They can’t just know none of that and jump into the real world at 18 and suffer. Parents are really doing them a disservice
In many countries, formal schooling doesn't start until age 6 or 7. There is no disadvantage in that, by age 10 they have caught up with the children in other countries who started earlier. But if an 8 year old can't even spell his own name and even seems a little embarrassed about it, you need to step up as a parent. The child may not be interested in learning how to read and do math but can't understand what his life is going to be like without these basic skills. The Neverending Story comes to mind, when the main character is told to "do what he wants" and loses himself more and more until he realizes it doesn't mean "do what you feel like right now" but "find out what you really want and how to get there"
@@sheri4673 Actually one of the advantages of starting academics later, like in Northern and Central European countries, is that children spend more time drawing, singing and doing crafts at daycare before they start school at 6 or 7. There are many studies about the benefits of extended play and voluntary learning. It is also easier to teach a 7 year old math than a 4 year old so I don't see "catching up" as a disadvantage.
They will also realize that they will meet no one with the same childhood experience. Here in Germany going to school is absolutely mandatory and as a parent you will go to jail if you don't send them. Home schooling is not allowed either
@@desertqueenaz7895 What world would that be? I‘m all for homeschooling and gentle parenting but the eldest is 8 and can’t read or write and lacks basic manners as far as basic skills go he has none.
I totally agree when a child at the age of this boy can’t even spell his own name, yes that’s a setup for failure not even know basic English grammar like ur vowels, it seems these 2 grown adults are only concerned with what they want they want to be different but these kids won’t be under 10 years old forever unless u got hoarders of cash somewhere to outdo these dumb children ur creating it’s beyond stupidity to me. The parents are grown obviously can spell ur own name.. it’s sooo narcistic to the point of unbelievable! Like I don’t even understand how the law allows them to raise nomads and it’s acceptable! I think those 2 lazy parents willing to live off of taxpayers , they are so fine with that! Why do I HAVE to work to support ur fairytale life! These are abusive parents in the worse way .deprieving ur children from learning to spell and print ur own name! That alone speaks for itself,why is that government willing to pay for a strapping ambled man and woman? So it’s the system of government that created these monsters and my hard work to keep them funded! That isn’t just whatsoever
This is extremely disturbing on multiple levels. - Co-sleeping for so long is inappropriate and leads to psychological issues such as codependency. If there’s no sense of boundaries or privacy, this could lead to a very bad situation where the children can’t separate familial love from romantic love. - A child that is unable to read at age 8 is getting set up for academic failure. - Not vaccinating and not enforcing hygienic practices sets them up for all sorts of illnesses and infections. This is so unsettling and dangerous.
As an unschooling family i want to step in and defend this family. There are numerous books and studies that show how allowing children to learn in their own way and at their own pace and not a pace dictated by adults is the most beneficial. Co-sleeping or 'family rooms' is the norm in other cultures. Western society embraces early independence. There is nothing wrong or disturbing about sharing a bed with your child, we as adults share a bed because it's closeness and comfort. Why deny a child the same level of comfort forcing them to sleep alone. Secondly, the 'schooled' age of reading has again become another western norm. Most unschooled children learn to read naturally by 10, this is a typical standard amongst unschooled children. And most learn without forced mainstream methods. The main thing to take away from this is that these unschooled kids will grow up to have full autonomy, know exactly how THEY feel in certain situations and know THEIR own minds as opposed to being conditioned to believe what they need to rely on adults to tell them how to think feel act etc..
I did some searching and they are once again facing an eviction - this time for having a rooster in a suburban neighborhood. They're trying to petition this is not a nuisance when anyone who has lived near one knows they literally never shut up. These people are profoundly selfish.
If they really want to live life THEIR way, they should buy a plot of land in the country, build their own home, set up their own grid and 'live off the land' (like some do) and not 'live off taxpayers'.
@@smylife7486In my neighbougood my landlady, who owns have the houses in the village, got chicks and a rooster all of a sudden. Haha, can I evict HER? 😄 You get used to that sound very quickly actually.
Parents often forget that above and beyond loving and caring for their offspring, their job is to make sure their kids are equipped to navigate and survive in the real world. A world filled to the brim with other human beings. It's devastating for kids to go out there and discover that their wants and needs are not high on everyone else's priority list.
It seems these parents aren’t equipped for the real world either considering they live completely of the tax payers dime while shitting on said system and society. A completely capable man living off the hard work of others is so shameful
I had seriously considered unschooling my now tween son. He's autistic and has ADHD and has always been very inquisitive. He started reading at age 2 and was very interested in math from a young age, figuring out how multiplication worked before starting kindergarten. He was very interested in volcanoes and at age 3, he had me reading textbooks from the library about volcanoes and he wanted to become a seismologist when he grew up. After that, he got really into space and learned everything about the solar system, the different planets, their temperatures, moons, distance from the sun, day/night cycles etc. And this was all before any formal schooling. Formal schooling actually slowed down his academic learning, but it increased his social learning which was very important to us since he's autistic and has a hard time with the social aspect. I prefer it when he has teachers that don't give homework because he learns most things the first time he sees them and homework is just annoying busywork form him. At home we focus on life skills like cooking, cleaning, and self care. We also teach how to manage household finances and the importance of resilience in doing things that you don't want to do. I think there is a balance that needs to be there. I understand the fear of medications that could give your child life long side effects when the risk of the disease is slim to none, but when you are putting yourself in a dangerous situation, you have to weigh the risks. Extreme views on both sides of arguments are usually both wrong in some ways. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
It seems like this approach is better suited to a situation like yours- your child is self driven to learn and figure out a subject expertise, but I do like that you noted social learning is important and part of school. Hopefully you can find a nice balance that works for your family, the best of both worlds. Seems like you have a scientist in the making!
@@w8what575can't agree more here - as op said, there should be a balance. But the school system where I was growing up did nothing but progressively suck the life out of me and my peers. I saw everyone gradually declining in motivation, the sparks in their eyes slowly fading. By the time we graduated it felt like we were zombies compared to how we started.
💯 It makes all the difference when a parent actually puts forth the effort in fostering those curiosities the way you say you have. These two read a couple articles and watched a few videos and just repeated what they heard I swear. I have a teaching degree and we concidered homeschooling but my son needed the social interaction. I swear she read the definition of unschooling off to her. If you're going to be homeschooling you have to have the capacity to _teach_ your kids... If you're going to unschooling it an even larger undertaking but people don't see what's beyond "childed learning." the caregivert[s] need to have a huge grasp on... _everything_ really. I could have told you a dozen things that playing on the swing and climbing was good for... I'd be willing to bet you could have as well. An 8 yo can learn more than PE from climbing. You have to be able to pick up on what your child coukd take away from the activity that day... "While you're up there... Try x, y, z... What do you think would happen if x, y, z?" etc. Kids learn through play... Yes great for sure... 💯 That's at the very core of child development. I know what alot of the info she's referring to is actually regarding... This ain't it... People who have successfully unschooled and have children who can successfully manage in the real would be appalled by this "method." Teaching through play and experimenting with their environment the most before like 6... Most things are easy to teach when you can disguise it or incorporate it into play. Unschooling (I almost wrote "unlearn"... Which is what these kids will need to do) definitely the next step... Again... When you have the ability to actually incorporate the basics into the things they love doing. I didn't ever hear them say "that's a cool red berry... [that you need to take out of your mouth before you're poisoned... Oh wait... immunitiy.]"
They say they aren’t taking advantage of the system. They truly are. I work hard every day and am struggling. I would feel so guilty not working and living off of the government
Personally, as a mother, and especially when I became a single mother, I struggled deeply with feeling like I was missing out on watching my daughter grow. I got my tax return, put back several months rent, and quit..never looked back. I’m now a stay at home mom who takes care of the pets and house (luckily for me, my partner makes enough to support us) and I’m so grateful for the opportunity I have. I’m glad I can say I spend everyday with my daughter that I get. I don’t dream of laboring jobs, I dream of raising my family. What makes me different than them, if anything? If you’re gonna get mad at the parents using benefits, you should be mad at all of the ones taking benefits (staying at home is a privilege for the rich that most average parents will never experience)
@@sullyrane653 in my opinion you know what you can do what you want but what you are doing is incredibly dangerous. What if you’re man leaves you and you’re stuck alone without any savings or anything to depend on? I hope you have savings I’m not trying to judge your situation, but how can you judge others for getting upset for people taking advantage of the government when they very well could go work and do something
The mother speaks about having extensively researched. Thus, she can read. Why? She has been taught to read. One cannot recognise a letter, such as a, b, or c, without having been taught what it means, how it functions in words, and how words combine in sentences. Mother talks about researching, but the children are not empowered to make choices. I feel really sorry for the children. They are being locked in a cage of ignorance.
The thing that got me was their eating habits... seingi that boy crouching in front of his plate and stuffing food into his mouth ... and no family meals - for me that's a sign of neglect because shared meal times are quality family time...
All these anti-vaxxers suddenly have medical degrees. I've worked in medicine my whole life, and I know that there needs to be more research done to investigate illnesses and medical problems. None of that research involves social media.
I was looking for that comment 😀. And also: there are thousands of children that have died of measles and that were breast fed, aka have gotten their mum’s antibodies, as she said. I wonder what they’d do if one of their children had an accident and a brain bleed. Oregano? I’m aghast.
@@UsernamesForDummies The mum's antibodies last only for a very short time. That's why immunization programs start at 4 months of age. The parents in the video are deluded, and un-vaccinated children can spread illness, oregano or not!
She actually said that she has done her research and on social media she shares that info. It was a run-on sentence. She wasn't saying she researches on social media.
They haven’t given their kids a chance to do anything period. I don’t think this mom knows anything…. The dad is delusional…. Why should anyone pay their rent when they constantly get evicted because they don’t respect anyone let alone their neighbors
The mom is "educated" because she's on "social media". What a joke. She doesn't even know how much she doesn't know...This world requires education and literacy skills, along with self-discipline. Children feel most safe when there are routines in the household. Without any rules or routines, how are they going to manage in our society? Get benefits, of course!
They have a UA-cam and Instagram account. The son learned how to read and spends all his time gaming. The middle daughter is involved in all these activities and knows how to sew clothes. The youngest tags along with her older sister.
My mom thought me how to read when I was 3, she made it fun and I liked it, she would also read a story every night, I still can remember how amazing I felt the first time I read a whole "book" by myself (it was like 30 pages and I was 4) reading is not just a skill, it's also a way to open up your mind to new things and a source of knowledge in any subject, which would expand the world of these kids so much, I love reading now and I will always be thankful that my mom nourished that love for reading. I don't think these parents nourish or teach to their kids anything at all, I mean, there's love... but that's about it
Thanks for the correction, english is not my first language and I usually have my keyboard in spanish so it's only natural that some things slip here and there
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@@elenaangulo4397 just thought it was ironic considering the subject 😆
This type of negligent parenting is the dumbing down of the Western society. The Asian especially Chinese societies are thrilled we are taking to this type of lazy negligent living because they continue to demand high educational and behavioral standards of their children. This will make it easy for the Chinese to take over the rest of the world as long as we just sit back and let the other industrialized nations become more powerful we will soon all be speaking Chinese.
Exactly that! The mom says the children don’t have a set curriculum and just learn what they want and when they want, but they don’t even know what they want to learn. It’s important to at least be exposed to different subjects so that the kids can FIND what they are interested in 🤦♀️
The father is a total loser, he doesn’t feel bad for taking money from the government yet he has a issue with them. Sounds like a spoiled brat ungrateful child.
I understand giving children the ability to make choices and embracing their free spirit but I think just as a household can be too rigid, too strict, it can also be too relaxed and not enough structure. I think it's important to embrace the best of both worlds, find an appropriate middle way because children need some structure in order to learn the basics reading, writing, math, science, etc... They need to also have free time and the opportunity to find stimulation in New hobbies, to be independent and choose interests and hobbies. My parents were pretty relaxed, but I had to go to school, study, clean my room, practice good hygiene, as long as I did those things my parents allowed me to explore my own interests, on weekends I could stay up later. By the time I was 14 years old, I really didn't need rules because I knew what my responsibilities were and as long as I kept up with my school responsibilities, homework, chores, they let me enjoy my free time doing what I enjoy hiking, bike rides, soccer, friends, etc... it's important for children to understand that life is a lot of fun but sometimes you have to study, wash dishes, do laundry, go to school and work a job and once you complete your responsibilities, then you can embrace your free spirit and explore interests and hobbies. It's important to learn how to read, write, do math, science, etc.. without the basics, children will grow up without the opportunity to go to college, or vocational school or high school, or play sports, what about money and learning the value of things... It's important to prepare children to be able to be self reliant, independent and be able to support themselves. You can be a free spirit and still work a job, what about goals, dreams, ambition, motivation... Kids need both guidance and freedom...
@@julianskinner3697the Windsor’s bring in a ton of money to the British economy. Their jobs may not be be what you would consider work, but I’ll bet you’d be pretty tired after doing their jobs for any length of time.
I can’t imagine how stressed those little kids are with no guidance and no boundaries. As much as I hate everything about this, my 6 year old son would hate it more, ultimately. He’d be miserable without structure.
I think this is very interesting, I love how respectful you are, even with intrusive and blunt questions. I see how on one hand how child led learning can be beneficial for a child yet at the same time I believe routine is so important.
I’m sad the kids aren’t in school but they do have unfettered access to their iPad. That’s sad. The eating, crouched over, with their hands also made me really sad. Cute and innocent as a child but as an adult, finding a life partner and you eat with your hands in the corner- that’s going to be a hard life. Makes me really sad
Many cultures eat with their hands.....I was married to a Hindu and we lived with his family and I soon adapted to their ways. When I came back to NZ I found eating with utensils horrible. They spoiled the taste of the food. Our kids ate by hand as well. Have you never eaten a sausage roll with your hands? Biscuits or a piece of cake? Fish and chips? Sweets?
@@juanitarichards1074that’s even different than what is being noticed here. They are simply not giving these kids any skills and I think the way they let these kids eat is totally different than being in a culture or eating food with your hands. These kids are just not being taught anything at all. These parents didn’t share a cultural way to eat with their kids or have any good reasons for them to eat that way ie food tasting better etc. they only do so because their parents won’t even teach them something as basic as eating with a fork or even eating with their hands but being clean and still having manners. It isn’t the same thing. I don’t think anyone would even notice the eating with hands if they weren’t just doing so simply due to their parents inability to teach them anything at all. They are just lazy parents altogether so of course that will be noticed plus they aren’t even saying to them to wash up for dinner first they let them play outside where animals go potty then just let them go at dinner. No medical attention so then that leaves those kids at high risks of getting very ill and even losing their lives. Also I’ve seen those who eat everything with their hands but they still have manners, they still show cleanliness and this is absolutely not the same thing with this family here. They are simply lazy.
@@kirstenornelas881I couldn't agree with you more. They definitely don't even need to have children. They are raising them like animals maybe even worse. I think it's a shame to see this. They are not teaching anything. These parents are insane and further more down right disgusting human beings. Lazy and crazy people.
@@marianalagoa4274 I hope they don't because they aren't even ready to give their kids a Tetanus shot or antimalarial medicine. Because the mother did "extensive research", on UA-cam no doubt. That really upset me because I volunteered at a health clinic in Sierra Leone and updated the patient files. So many files that hadn't been updated in a while belonged to children who had died of Malaria when they were young. Of course when you travel through Africa, you see older children and adults getting Malaria and recovering fairly quickly, but that's because they've had it 20 times before. You don't see the ones who passed away. At least for Sierra Leone, you need to prove you were vaccinated against Yellow Fever to even enter the country. But the thought that they might want to drag their children from country to country without health insurance and a sufficient budget is scary.
In my country, failing to give your child formal education constitutes child abuse and could get you charged or your children can be taken away. Also, if you're fully capable to work and don't, you would NEVER qualify for state support. These people are just lazy and entitled and quite frankly, deluded.
Perhaps that’s the result of generations of living off the system never giving anything back…they do it well. It becomes their norm to be provided for with no effort. Is that what the system is set up for?
@@carolyngreen5458 what the worst part is is that they think anyone should do it. Without thinking where the money has to come from to put every family with under aged kids on welfare. And the naive thought that when his kids are adults for the law it will be easy to get a job.
As someone who works in juvenile justice, let me tell you. Kids like this are in our system. I’m in America, but know if you don’t care or parent your child/children, the juvenile justice system or prison will have to deal with them
The homeschooling community in the U.S. is getting bigger and bigger. I completely disagree with you. I’d like to see the data that backs up your claim.
I am a lawyer in Germany and I agree with you. Every child (14+) that faced charges seemed like they never heard "No" in their life. The parents are allowed to speak before the verdict in Germany and every parent said the exact same thing "surprised because we always did what the child wanted". Some children even screamed at their parents in the courtroom.
@@nadjadavidson411she’s not speaking to homeschooling It’s about not being told - you will now or no. Those parents are utterly exhausted let me tell u - by entitled kids Homeschooling is literally teaching & chores & routines along with exploring n free time
When I worked in an early learning school, we gave students opportunities to develop skills like using scissors, puzzles, etc. Their proficiency in these skills was not typically incremental. It was amazing to see a child struggle and show no improvement for weeks, then one day be proficient. I can see the rationale that children will learn skills when they are developmentally ready to do so. I just can’t look past the lack of socialization the kids seem to experience, especially the 8 year old.
I think the parents in this case aren't understanding the part of child lead education that involves the actual education. It's not just letting your kids be feral...you still have to teach, you just do it in a way that uses life experiences as opportunities to learn and practice skills. This is just zero education. If you don't school, you must still teach. This is just babysitting. There's no teaching, no learning, no effort.
But how will the child learn something they’ve never seen or experienced? These parents give them nothing to learn about. These children look very bored with life.
Socialization: Sit at a desk, listening to a teacher, then do your work. Outside of the classroom, be bullied or bully your classmates. Never interact with anyone but your own age and development. Real socialization involves multiple generations: Young folks 18-20’s work alongside 30/40’s and 50-60’s. Children are missing out from when society had one-room schools.
@@salauerman7082 you are right, school isnt a good setup for socialising. But its better than the nothingness the kids in this video seem to experience
Why doesn’t the dad have a job, or did I miss something? Where will the children learn about accomplishment, work ethic, respect for authority? We live in a society whether he likes it or not. Also, is it hypocritical that they don’t wan5 to be a part of the system except when it comes to that system paying for them.
Why should we learn respect for authority? That’s bullshit. Which authority figures are not corrupt, greedy and willing to be violent to asset their dominance. We are done with that mentality and this family is leading the way!
32:01 I'm an early childhood teacher and the most simple observation tells me that this baby wants to go and explore. The mother seems to know her actions are strange and is using the baby as a shield
Matt: “We don’t send our kids to school, we keep them home and go on walks so that they learn about the ground and that it’s not always level. This is how they learn how to adapt to different environments”. School: “A different environment? Like…me?” They treat that 8 year old like he’s still developmentally 12 months old and expect nothing more from him. It’s like they haven’t bothered to realize that seven years have passed.
and they're totally failing that child. My parents just made sure I didn't die. (for the most part.. we often wandered off and they never were involved with our schooling. we were to just go and then asked later if our homework was done. never checked. I was a BRILLIANT........ C student. Now at 54 I have worked retail my entire life, have not one dime saved because I always worked paycheck to paycheck. I never have motivation to do anything extra. It's literally built into my psyche. THIS is what this kind of parenting does. Oh.. and I could have been an A+ honor roll student, I could have went to law school or even been a mechanical engineer making 6 figures. Buthere I am struggling to pay the bills making minimum wage in an industry I've been in for 30+ years. THANKS MOM AND DAD! smh.
@@Kristinapedia although I agree with u - at some point u have to take accountability & you've literally had 30+ years to do something different. When u were young it was easy to get a house , u could have either sold your house & gotten a cheaper one , or got a cheap one to begin with , go to school part time or especially a trade school which is not near as expensive & u could be making 6 figures. It's your choices that led u where you're at. If you'd been investing even $200 per month collecting interest u could have over a million dollars. Granted I guess you're saying because of how u were raised is why u never done any of these things but like I said at some point u have to take accountability. There's plenty of people whom had absolutely terrible childhoods who end up being successful. These children in the vid are absolutely are being set up for failure & laziness though & it's sad
I don’t think so, when you are in a home with parents that are lazy, its affects some children in different ways. We are not the same, so we learn to be someone without motivation and the way to progress because our brain has only learned what we see and hear. It’s a learned experience, and that is all this kids have. So when you say, you could have done something different, learn something new, so she could have gone to be a lawyer nurse dr. Whatever, you have to learn it first. I mean the brain. Everything is possible but, we need to train our brain to learn how to learn basically. I think you can still do something amazing, a nurses aid, it’s a great career and you are not too old to learn. I hope that you have some in your life that tells you, you can do anything in life as long as you want to learn and the work.
@@WarmongerYT”could have” doesn’t help anyone. Yeah, it’s important to take responsibility but why tell someone about a past they still can’t change instead of telling them what can be done with the time they DO have??
They don’t have friends? Can you imagine being 8 and can’t read and write? The kid’s friends would pick on him, if he had any friends. So not only there’s no education, there’s also no socialization
They could only if they worked labor jobs at each location while they live there for a few mos to explore on their off times Prob travelling alone and not even having a car (stay in hostels, use public transit, walk ALOT) U can do anything if ur willing But touristy travel? Nah. They’re never affording that.
I homeschool, but make sure I teach science, math, english, etc.. Kids need to have the basics in order to not be behind if they decide to be a doctor or engineer. I am familiar with this because I had parents who severely neglected my education. In college I competed with others for a medical related degree emphasizing math and science. I had to work my tail off to catch up and compete. It was exhausting. Also, there is a body of knowledge that those who came before us have discovered to help us understand the world. I think it's a shame to not know any of this.
Thank you so much for commenting something positive I noticed that a lot of people said a lot of negative things and it makes me happy seeing that some one is choosing positivity over negativity!
@@mina7199 yes that is true but, at the end of the video it did show that the kids learning how to or at least the brother was. Also some kids don't learn how to read until they're much older and there's nothing wrong with that.
'Schooled' expectation of learning when and how to read has of course become accepted as normal. Most unschooled kids learn to read by age 10, this is unschooled standard and the more biologically normal way as opposed to societal norm
The dog "decides" to fast! He looked at his dogfood and said, "Nope, not today! I'm getting too fat!". What a joke, they won't even get veterinary care for their pet.
I was shocked to learn 8 yr old Ulysses cannot read nor write which cuts off entire worlds from children's imaginations. How unfortunate. Do they know their numbers?
@@Kiki-mk4op Your methods prove that a child can learn at home just as well as they can at a school, provided they have access to adults willing to share knowledge with them. To know that these bright intelligent children are being denied the wonders of the written word and the magic of mathematics (under the guise of non-stop free play) seems a grave disservice.
Yes, i dont like school, but if you can read you can learn anything, and enjoy yourself. So that is realy important. And learning at home can be be more comfortable then at school. I think learning this from aroun 6 year old is ok. 8 year you should be able to read. My youngset is 12 and hates reading. But you need it for games, reading subtitels etc😅.
I can't judge this family - I don't know. All I see is happy children - truly a beautiful happy family. In the long scheme of life - does it matter if a child reads at a certain age or that if one reads? This is a type of therapy used for autism (unschooling or Son-rise program) following the child's lead! It has phenomenal results in the autism community - so I can't imagine with neurotypical children. I'm never one to judge. I appreciate learning how these parents are raising their beautiful family. As the world is now - this may be what we need? Never ever judge! Thank you for this video Stacey Dooley.
No child "wants" to brush their teeth every time, but their teeth will be rotted and gnarly if they aren't taught to care for them, setting them up for a lifetime of dental issues. Rotting teeth could lead to heart problems, which could quite literally kill them! I can understand wanting to encourage inquisitiveness and exploration but parents also need to instill stability, structure, and good habits. These kids may not fare so well as adults.
It’s ok, they know they won’t have to pay for a dentist appointment because the tax payers will pay for them 🤷🏻♀️ same as they know very well their children have no chance to a proper job without any qualifications or even basic education and they will also live off benefits. How is this not child neglect is beyond me
@@EmberEckel I mean unless you’re sick and your appetite has been affected, normally you only need to eat when hungry. If you eat when you’re not hungry then you’ll gain weight. Our bodies are really good at knowing when we need to eat. I will say that personally I do tend to occasionally really focus on stuff and I don’t even notice I’m hungry and forget to eat though I definitely am hungry.
The thing is that the rest of the world outside the family bubble has rules. Those poor kids are going to be so confused when they walk into a room and don’t know what’s going on but everyone else knows perfectly well. Just leaving home and entering a strangers house or a mainstream institution will be like traveling to a foreign country. I understand the love here but the tragic reality of parenting is “socialization” of your children. It’s painful but necessary
Kids learn really fast. The rules aren't hard to understand bur kids that have been brought up like this often have great self confidence and self belief. We don't just believe what we are told either.
@@mulligatawnysoup9281But other children are usually pretty blunt. They'll shun the weird kid who doesn't know what's expected socially. Poor socialization affects everything - job opportunities, friendships, romantic relationships, financial opportunities.
I went to school and I was shunned for being different . It was horrible and didn't help me one bit, but one of the three brothers that didn't go to school is a millionaire club and restaurant owner( with Michelin stars). He didn´t learn to conform to other peoples expectations of him, and just always did what he felt like doing. Very successfully. The other brother didn't do so well but I don't believe that our school system is the only way to go. I did send my daughters to school. They are both at uni now. I am just saying, from experience, that not conforming to the norm isn't always bad. Especially when the norm is eating fast food and playing computer games. All of my family questions the status quo and think very independently which I think is a very good trait. We don't just believe what we are told because we know that not everything presented to us is in our intererest. @@ChiCityLady
@@mulligatawnysoup9281but how old will they be when they lead this lesson? Kids? Teens? Adults? I feel if the parents keep this up they will end up with runaways or late teen children who will fall into depression when they have to engage with the rest of humanity on an adult level.
@@mulligatawnysoup9281 kids learn very fast depending on age or situations. I’ve seen secluded kids learning social skills by 35 years old. That was fast AF 😅
I sure hope you do a follow up on this family. It would be nice to see how their kids are doing once they are in high school. It would be good to see the results of their methods and see if they did any adjustments.
Okay, wait. So the guy thinks everyone should be able to stay home and let the government take care of their finances. But....who's going to finance the government to let them do that if everyone is staying home to raise their kids?
He believes *_they should be able to_* not *_they must be forced to_* and the difference is huge. I wholeheartedly agree with him. I'd still be a teacher in his ideal world but I'd be able to choose my hours and days depending on my wants and needs and the same would apply for everyone else. That's a fantastic idea.
@@jbh666 people aren't inherently lazy and "weekend" is a social construct. If no concept of workday/weekday was enforced there'd be no concept of weekend. Also, with how other religions work we'd have Muslims taking Fridays off, Adventists and Jews Saturdays off and Christians Sundays and just like that people are covering for each other. And also, a lot of non-essential works shut down for weekends and holidays anyways so no bog deal other.
Man I hope you all don’t go down that path my sister had too with all 3 of her children once they became 12 years old… jury, drugs & alcohol, prison for 2 out of 3, couch bums, lost her grandkids, back too prison and not talking “jail” prison in America is big boy prison, all 3 still causing her stress today and they all 3 are in their 30’s and a year off! And she done the same way you have done! Please do another with this family in 15 years and another 10 years after and let us know how it all worked for them!!🙌🙌
What interests me is that this family expects to have the basic amenities such as electricity, running water, sewage, an allotment and luxuries such as WiFi, social media, devices and luxury foods without contributing anything to the costs. I also wonder what would the parents do if one of the children became seriously ill or was involved in an accident, would they be prepared to use conventional medicine? Given that neither of the parents are employed in the formal sector, will the children be able to find any form of employment especially being illiterate?
Money doesn't come out of thin air Matt. Wouldn't it be wonderful for all parents to spend all day with their children but who is going to pay for it? Other hard working parents are paying for your benefits how is this fair on them?
Yeah, his comment about all parents staying at home was wild. No parent working means no money. At least they can get a part time job, I don't think that would be detrimental to their kids, but teach them some kind of independence and let them know the parents won't be there forever.
Exactly. What does this family contribute to society? The children have been denied medical and dental care. At some point the children are going to get sick because of this neglect, and they may spread infectious diseases to vulnerable members of society. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Influenza.
Perhaps you should also be advocating for a different system so you can spend more time with your children too, instead of criticizing someone else jealously, who’s chosen his children over the corporations
I love the speech about “choosing” his children. It’s a luxury he’s afforded while all of his countrymen afford this for he and his wife. What a privilege. Absurd.
What’s different in this than a stay at home mom relying on her partner to bring home the funds? (Obviously these kids aren’t your average and these parents aren’t either, I’m not speaking of the schooling or parenting, specifically, the funding only, and I’m asking this question AS a SAHM so would love the context of how this is exactly different in everyone’s mind)
@@sullyrane653 both parents don’t work a real job….. they’re expecting society to fund their lifestyle. That’s absurd. Each household should fund its own choices. You’ll never convince me I should have to carry the weight of two able bodied, fully capable adults and their children plus my family as well. I’m sorry adulthood is hard for him and traditional 9-5’s aren’t “fun”, but if he can’t find success in entrepreneurship, he needs to think of how to properly support his children. Being a stay at home mother requires an in home partner to go out and provide the living of two workers. I would know, for a time, my husband did this as there was no other way for us due to his work schedule. I now work and he has changed jobs so he can be home every day. We both support our household and we both always have. It’s never been easy, but it’s insane to think of our lives being the responsibility of strangers simply because the idea of work fatigues us.
@@sullyrane653SAHM isn’t married to the state She has a spouse out earning an income while she works for free alllll day into evening n while they’re on vacation n while she’s ill or injured
If wealthy people were taxed appropriately, everyone could work less and spend more time with their families, why aren’t you advocating for that? Working a 9-5, doing mindless tasks only does one thing, makes wealthy people more rich and you more burnt out and exhausted. Don’t criticize because they’ve untangled themselves from an exploitative system, you can do it too!
In the U.S., this is considered neglect and will get your children taken from you. These parents are ignorant to the fact that they're doing a huge disservice to their children and their capability on becoming productive members of society.
The parents are making every intellectual excuse to justify this form of child neglect that they are perpetuating. There might be a lot of love in this family, but in the long run, they are doing their children a real disservice when it comes to preparing them for interaction with the real world.
when the kid said he can’t even read it brought me back to AR points and my brother read almost every single book in the library at his age. AR points were a great way to encourage kids to read even though the prize wasn’t as rewarding at the end of it all you know they still got to take away from it all. From what I remember I didn’t really like our points, but it still got me reading and gave me structure in a way and now I miss that structure. I think these kids may have so much energy because they don’t know what else to do with it. Life isn’t all about play and going at your own schedule, which is why structures important. I remember at home life growing up and it wasn’t structured at all like school was and in my opinion no one is able to replicate the structure at school. These parents, of course don’t even have that as a philosophy as something that’s necessary. Their heart may be in the right place. But in the end it is negligence
The son realized she misspoke a word because he’s used to his parents reading it out loud to him. Not because he himself could read and recognized the error. People keep saying”well the garden.” “The house is clean.” THEY JUST MOVED INTO THAT HOME WEEKS PRIOR. They don’t pay rent. He did NOT grow that oregano… or that garden…he found it while mowing on camera. Nah.
I don't know, the house seems to me uncleaned, as if the carpet is never vacuumed. It also seems that they read the same book over and over again and the kid just memorized it. I agree, the garden looks unkept, like the one where rodents live 😕
I think, in a way, by not allowing a child an education, or medication is neglect. It is clear they love their child, and they feed , clothe and spend time with them, but I'm sorry every child deserves an education and medication. They need structure and routine, of course they do, as well as fun, there has to be a balance .
@@ankavoskuilen1725The kids are under 16 so they can’t get a job, I follow them on social media. They still aren’t sending the kids to school, they also posted about letting their kids brush their teeth whenever. They post a lot about being anti-trans, anti-school, and they are facing another eviction.
I can see these kids resenting their parents in a few years time when they are so far behind what it takes to actually hold down a job or basically do anything in life
Not to mention the internet does not forget and at least one of the three will be incredibly embarassed and filled with hate and loathing of their parents for subjecting them to this permanence of embarassment even if their name was not provided - data and info will be existing forever
I don’t think these children will want to hold a full time job. No one should have to, there are enough resources for everyone to work less, spend more time with family and pursue their interests - the only thing working a 9-5 job does is make you exhausted and a wealth person more rich.
This is what "traumatized" adults who never wanted to actual adult but are stuck in their kid world do when they themselves decide to have kids. How much do you have to hate yourself and your parents to one day decide to mess up your own kids. They're delusional. I feel sorry for the little ones.
I think those children have parents who care about them and are really trying to make their lives good. If I was you I would spend my time and energy feeling sorry for the neglected children that spend their days playing video games and eating processed food.
Nailed it. This woman will keep popping out a human so she can keep hiding away from reality on the government. These seniors from the 60s and 70s are homeless now because they never thought about the future.... I was in therapy for 12 years as a result of this Free model of parenting. I met a guy at work who for his age was super efficient and over productive, we had coffee and he said "I've always had to be like this my parents were hippies". We swapped our general life stories and both of cried for each other and all the other fkd up kids being raised like this because we were feral and had to pay so much attention to others in conforming families to learn all the social stuff we missed.
I am a firm believer of education. Also, i am a firm believer of free play time. In my opinion, there needs to be balance between the two for some kind of success later in those kids lives. Just my view of it tho.
This makes me so sad for those children. I am fine with alternative schooling, in today’s day and age it may actually be better. But it still needs to be structured. Kids at that age will always choose to play over school, who wouldn’t? But they should be guiding them to learning about the world around them. Taking a walk, learn about the various plants and animals, the weather, solar system, etc. If you wait for the kids to be like “ok I’m ready to learn now”…….you will be waiting a very long time. That poor boy will be 12/13 and still not know how to read/write and probably won’t know basic math skills either. I think their parenting style has already affected him detrimentally. Sitting on the floor, hovering over his food, cramming it in his mouth…….and you can’t interact when he’s eating? Something very wrong with that picture. I think it’s great to teach the kids about the world by traveling the world but let’s be real, those kids will never learn anything b/c they don’t want to. They have not been guided to be curious about learning or else the boy would know how to read by now. I know not everyone is the same, but I loved reading at his age. I learned to read by the time I was 3, and was in an advanced reading program at school. I devoured all kinds of books, but at that age, they were mostly about dinosaurs. They should be taking them to museums and places that encourage imagination and learning. If there ever comes a point they are forced to sit them down and actually teach them to read (like when the boy is a teenager), they will resist and probably end up hating reading. In the end, they are setting those kids up to fail as adults, and they will end up on welfare themselves.
I was searching for that comment! Thank you! I worked with a lot of children in different ages and I‘m pretty sure the son already has some developmental issues. I mean it makes sense when the parents don’t put any effort in the Brain development of their children. What’s going on with his hands next to his face all the time? I think unschooling can look very different than that. More like you explained here. And I think as a parent you are able to support their curiosity to different things like for example reading or writing. Nobody talks about that the kids eat icecream for Breakfast, lunch and Dinner. That’s just not healthy and how do the kids know about this when they never wanted to know about this? I‘m shocked to be honest.
It is the old story of parents who think they know best for their children but only evolve around their own muddled memories and feelings- the kid was never at school but he says he does not want to go? Who told him what to expect there?
I agree that a walk with kids can be a really good way to teach children geography and biology, however, pointing out that there is the sea and that is the city? What a missed opportunity!!
I am so annoyed by the anti-vax stance. Having grown up in the 1960s and 1970s.....prior to the Mumps and Measles vaccines....I can tell you first hand how devastating even those diseases were to kids back in the day. My parents told stories of classmates dying of Polio and Diptheria back in their day. I've never had to watch any of my children suffer and/or die of these diseases thanks to vaccines. This type of ignorance is borne of the INSANE privilege of never watching your child die of disease. Her children are PROTECTED by the parents of those children who DID get vaccinated...she should be thanking them instead of spouting her conspiracy nonsense. YES, vaccines make people money. But they also have saved millions upon millions of lives.
Also, pharma profits way more of very sick people than one little shot of vaccine... horrible to not protect your kids and at the same time endanger the rest of society as well
Not to mention that they are laws for reasons and the people who enshrined them into law didn't do so just because they wanted to. They did so based off of the advice of medical professionals.
Don't be upset. There are countries where no vaccination is mandatory. In my country there are about 8 mandatory shots until you are 18. In Sweden 0 is mandatory. In the USA it is counted in tens. Advantage? What I want to say is that your immunity is built by many ways, as well as bad life habbits matter so much that no vax, no pills, nothing from the outside can beat this.
...then you're actually exactly the same age as the anti-vax movement and the top period of anti-authoritarian education. seems like your superhero origin story ^^
The son doesn't go to school because he "doesn't want to." Literally every child that age doesn't want to go to school. They're teaching their kids to be so entitled to get whatever they want. Life isn't about doing things you want to do.
@@kittenspuppiespsychictarot3873 I agree with you to a certain extent. But my point was that I think she's teaching him that he can always do whatever he wants. I do what I want when I can but I'm also an adult. I wasn't always given the choice to do what I want and so i didn't grow up entitled. He has to learn that he can't ALWAYS do what he wants. That's all I'm saying. :)
@Girlhead I believe they are teaching it is okay to only do what you want it is your life, but as long as you also respect others' choice to do what they want. Which doesn't necessarily mean they will grow up entitled. At least not any more than the parent who gives the child everything. Which they aren't they are just allowing them to make decision for their own life. I am sure as they get older, they will find more motivation in achieving the things they want in life and adjusting as needed. I find I am much more motivated to learn the things I actually want to learn, than anything I was forced to learn. Only time will tell really, though.
Well, I think that some of the elements of this parenting are pretty cool they do also have to learn that there are structure and rules in the real world and that you will be told no by jobs by bosses and there will be boundaries. People do have boundaries and you will have to respect others boundaries you will also have to respect, limitations and rules, and, when you go to the airport or a job or someone else’s home, you have to understand that you just can’t do whatever you want to do. I’m also curious how the parents react if the children would do something that’s not appropriate in public like stealing, do they teach them things that are right and wrong or if they hit another child because they felt like it? There are fundamental things you need to teach children about functioning in a society. They need to understand rules and regulations to some extent and when it’s OK to be free and have their way unsafe as in no touching the stove or not to make certain chemicals together. Learning the hard way sometimes can be deadly.
I am surprised how poor the activities are. Fine, you go walk and end up in a nice place where you see sky and sea? Well, THAT is not learning geography, that would be a learning experience if you would explain the water cycle. Or you walk in the forest, then you stop and look at the leaves and explain types and photosynthesis.The kid has the ipad in bed and not a book around? By the way, i also practice “children-led learning”… when my kids ask, i answer 😅 or i get them books that address their questions, and we read them together.
I myself am not a fan of formal education but this is insane. All I hear is excuse after excuse after excuse from parents who are just too lazy to provide for the children they brought into the world. If these kids had at least basic education and these parents were footing the bill for kids that they conceived I wouldn't have such a problem with this, but this is insane. These kids are being so let down by their own parents.
I was raised very similarly to them as an unschooler in the USA. I always knew most people disagreed with my family’s choices and adults never failed to remind me of how far estranged I was from the “real world”. This was a good documentary, the journalists’ questions sounded just like many conversations I had as a child.
Yeah we had a version of this in the 70s with open classrooms, so called holistic learning, Waldorf ideas that may be utopian or worse a spin on separatism perhaps, and what concerns me is the mum's notion of world travel while they are on benefits
@@tundeterez Good and bad, I can never say how much of my experience was anecdotal. Plus I’m barely in my 20s and just starting my career. Things were really good when my home life was stable and my parents were able to focus on me, but just as bad when they weren’t able to do as much. Plus I was an only child. I definitely wouldn’t be who I am today if I hadn’t been unschooled and I don’t mind who I am, except maybe for not having my multiplication tables memorized. My parents weren’t fully antivax, but I do also resent that they didn’t let me get a few of my vaccines (eg HPV), which I had to find out and get myself after 18. I developed attachment injuries/trauma from my extended family and friends because I childishly interpreted their well meaning concerns as them believing I was stupid and incapable. I became preoccupied with trying to prove I was intelligent to everyone who questioned me and put my parents down growing up. I felt like I had to prove they were good parents. I independently decided to graduate high school at 16 and I started attending community college, where I graduated with an associates degree at 18. I regret not having routines growing up and I still struggle with consistency (too much and too little), which contributed to how hard I ended up pushing myself. I placed too much importance on prestige when I chose what college I transferred to and I quickly burnt out and was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder. At the moment I’m taking time off full-time school. It is difficult to adopt a different mindset and stay motivated towards getting a job and becoming independent when I do not have role models to show me how. My parents live a different life from what I want or believe is sustainable for myself, but that’s their choice. I spent a lot of time in the “unschooling” community as a child and there was a huge diversity of parents who chose the lifestyle (lots of infighting, honestly) and there was also a very wide range of ways that their children responded to the unschooling. The last truly mainstream representation of unschoolers I saw was yeeaars back on a wife-swap episode. I remember that the family was known in my circles and was pretty controversial. The family they interviewed here seemed closer to the “average unschooler,” from my experience.
@@CatsOfMarrakechI am all for Waldorf if done in a community with opportunities for kids to take part in learning. They use little to no tech in the younger years, follow student interest and focus on the outdoors. I would choose it over the public school for my offspring if there was one in our community. They do not focus on standardized testing, but when kids that have attend Waldorf schools do take the tests they score very high and most of them go on to college.
@@tundeterez my replies to you keep being reported and/or deleted-no idea why. I apologize. To summarize what I’d said: it was a mixed bag, but was actually pretty good when my parents paid full attention and gave me a routine and stability in the house. In my experience, the positive and negative experiences I had with unschooling balance out pretty fairly with those of people who attended traditional schooling, the experiences just look a bit different between the two (ie. no ones experiences are the same, there’s lots of variability).
If everyone did like he did, and didn’t work and lived off the system there would be no one paying into the system. There would be no one working the system. Who would work in the hospitals when you did get sick or if you were elderly and needed to be in the hospital. Who would be the policeman to keep everything orderly? How about the people to keep up the roads and airports? It just doesn’t work to think everyone can do this. And this is why he is judged.
My 8 year old excels at reading writing math, we read books far above her grade level. Loves learning through exploring and enjoys her friendships at school. But guess what? There are days she doesn’t WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL. It’s called being a child. However I know her having the basis of being literate and knowing how to add, subtract and multiply will set her up for future success.
I don't understand why kids can't have both. As a child, I woke up for school daily and played in the woods for hours after. Basic academia is necessary to make it in todays society, you cannot leave it out.
My child was in school and could barely read or write until he was a 5th grader. Interest in reading is developmental! Emerging at different times for each person, and there are even individuals who teach themselves to read.
I agree. Waldorf education states that boys typically learn to read later than girls and not to force it, it will cause more damage. I think people forget this and blame homeschooling, when In reality, all children are different and learn to read and write at different ages.
My daughter is 9 and in 3rd grade and can barely read, she is a normal kid but has no interest in reading for some reason, and the public school has failed to teach her to read
@@Angelbach1995- You actually know families where there was no home schooling done & instead, were unschooled w/ nothing formalized at all about reading, writing, math, science, history, which can be taught in a play like manner using creative tools, but that’s still a type of schooling. I can’t believe that a kid who grows up like this, with no formalized schooling out or inside the home, ends up able to be an engineer.
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school I don't think they are saying anything is wrong with yoga itself. They are just saying it fits what they would think he would do for a job.
As someone who was honeschooled, my heart breaks for what these children will endure should they ever attempt to work, start their education, or be a part of society. I was isolated less than they are, and still struggled to get my GED at 25. I am in university now, but all the kids who went to regular schools have a much easier time. I am driven to succeed, but that means very little when I have to start from zero and the other students don’t.
I give you props for sticking with your education and putting in the work to get your GED. I know it had to be very discouraging being so much older. Great job!
That's only because your parents failed you. Most homeschool kids are statistically better off than they're counterparts. I'm sorry your education wasn't valued more.
@@bigmomma3265 You're a mom, not a child who was homeschooled. They're not necessarily happy just because you think they are. I frankly think 80% of homeschooling parents straight up belong in jail.
I remember my brain just flying through books as soon as I could start stringing words together. It felt as if I had suddenly gained a superpower. I can't imagine my childhood without the magic of literacy and all the adventures that books inspired in my imagination and in my life.
You expressed the blessing of being able to read the written word perfectly. At 81 I still read constantly. With the internet thousands upon thousands of volumes of information is available. It’s really a dream come true. It is sad to think that Ully is missing out.
Right?! Same !! I say this as someone who did REAL unschooling. What she describes isn't unschooling or homeschool... it's CHILD NEGLECT.
Exactly! Learning to read is the base of learning at all! The stories and encyclopedies I read. Then internet - I didnt have internet acess till I was 14. Thanks to Internet I learned English, and now I can get new info from new sources! Its like unlocking new level. Totally random facts that ended up stuck in my head since I was kid, and at the end of the day shaped my common knowledge. These kids have absolutely no idea what can world offer, and its so sad.
I know right. The one thing she didn't monitor. She should have a little bit. L.O.L 😅 It's why I never told anyone what I was reading. My secret glorious world.
The ability to read, IS power.
It would be interesting to find out how their family is doing 15 years from now.
So much agree. I always enjoy follow ups.
Shooting heroin in some alley and being thoroughly unpleasant
YES!
They are not the first family to unschool.
Probably still living at home with mum and dad taking care of them.
This approach seems more for the parents benefit than anytning else. Theyre just projecting their childhood desires on to their children and living vicariously through them.
And so the cycle of intergenerational trauma renews itself once more!
I don't know. I also believe strongly that children should find their own way. I also think that even though they need to find their own way they need guidance from their parents. You have a lot of parents who do the traditional way but don't listen at all to what their children want. I don't agree that they don't teach their children anything because someone who is 8 should be able to read. So I think it's good for children to find their own way. But I think they did a little bit of an exaggeration.
@@TRW98 I don't think children can forsee the ramifications of their choices at such a young age. Age 18 is when we get to 'reasonably foreseeable' forecasting (at least according to the Dunedin Studies).
People in general do that. Look at the comments. One wrote about having to be forced to eat Brussel sprouts so everything was okay with these kids because one guy was eating them.
Another is okay with this because school was a horrible experience for them.
We, in general, need to look at a broader viewpoint and not solely on our own feelings and experiences.
I do understand people do that. Everyone is different.
How do the kids know what they want to learn if they are not exposed to ideas they've never heard of?
Exactly what I thought. They say the kids were asked if they want to go to school, but they have no idea what school even is!
Yes exactly what what I was thinking g
Who says they aren't. Their parents expose them to all sorts of things. WE were only exposed to a (highly edited) glimpse into their lives.
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You forget that kids are born already smarter than their parents.
They're against the system but have no problem using it it to benefit it them. That's quite the contradiction.
Noticed your name I’m a Brotz too😊. Not many of us!
It does cut down on their message
People who are using the system .... would rather not .... if they were mentally able to solve their personal problems. But they are not able to. Therefore they are dependent on the system. Sometimes I guess we would be better of without the system. Some people are allowed to remain "in the system" for the rest of their lives. They are not met with any demands, and challenges that would help them start working and earning their own money again.
Either the system robs you or you rob the system.
@@VikingshopWhere I live you have too atleast apply for jobs (Show that they are trying) System still don’t care though wether you get that job or not as long as trying 🤦♀️ 🤦♀️
The 8 year old is in such a bad situation. He sits looking at an ipad and sitting like a monkey on a rock; huddled in a dirty room full of clutter hunched over uncooked and uncut vegetables interacting/behaving like a 4 year old with the host. His parents are not seeing his isolation and ability to act like his baby sisters bc he isnt being "asked to do more" or level up to keep up with his mates (i.e. nothing required but just kids and humans naturally try to keep pace with the group - helping them all grow and progress in various social and behavioral skills).
Schooling is absolutely imperative for the brain. The parents have forgotten to research how the brain grows and moves us forward in life.
I do agree with letting kids learn through exploring, and having both parents very present.
But also structured learning, routine, and rules are good for kids.
100 percent agree
A regular 8 year old not being able to spell his own name is atrocious.
@@Katelovesanimalsmost2134 very atrocious
I 100% agree with you! 👍
I agree 100% with your comment.
The parents speak of self-sufficiency while living in subsidized housing. Make it make sense.
Exactly👏🏻
hahahahahaha. So true.
And finding bugs will get them far. More sense to be made
They would probably have their own homestead farm if they saved money previously to having children.
But that's not the case for now.
@@joycedominguez8997They can become a reseacher studying insects later in life.
A lot of kids have an interest in smaller animals-frogs, small reptiles, insects,
I had a friend raised this way. Although her and her brother were in school. Their parents let them do whatever they wanted. Both kids dropped out of highschool. Brother died of drug OD at age 30 after 15 or more years of addiction. My friend left her husband and 3 kids and has no contact with her children. She's 30 and parties everyday. Didn't turn out well for that family.
I know someone who was super strict. All her kids graduated....literally NONE speak to her because she was awful. It's a double edged sword
Our constitutional court in Italy had stated that no education (school and behaviour) should be equally defined as abuse. I can’t be more agree with it.
It IS abuse. And neglect
@RainRemnant in the U.S., it's considered neglect and will get your children taken from you. These parents are ignorant to the fact that they're doing a huge disservice to their children and their capability on becoming productive members of society.
Amen to that
It is educational neglect!
@@MiaMore. earlier this year I was reported to social services bc my daughter had missed so many days… they closed the case after one interview with me bc there was a specific issue at the root and I was addressing it
They say they're letting them make their own choices but in reality they're actually taking away any choices of theirs but not letting them get an education...because when they're older if they want to do a job they love they won't be able to because their parents couldn't even teach them the basics of life
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I think they're just being lazy to be honest . . . it's hard work to get and keep children on a schedule, make sure they get an education, properly fed, teach them how to socialize and discipline them when they do something wrong . . . a lot easier, letting their kids do what ever they want, go to bed and eat what ever they want, when ever they feel like it and let the kids decide what they want to learn. . .wonder if their kids will be very grateful, when they end up growing up with no basic or social skills and no concept of laws or common sense . . .
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I have a friend who is the oldest of nine children. Their parents homeschooled all of them, and none of them graduated or received a diploma/GED. One of them likely has an undiagnosed learning disability. My friend cleans homes for a living because she can’t find anything that doesn’t require a GED. There is nothing wrong with that as a career choice if it’s what you’ve specifically chosen, but it’s sad that her options are so limited. Her parents did them all such a disservice.
The love will win at the end. Eventually these kids will go through a puberty period along with the anger and disillusionment toward their parents for NOT having given them clear boundaries and discipline. They will hate their parents for a while. If everyone can get through that phase they'll end up ok. But yeah, it's going to be a lot harder for these kids to learn some things. Maybe.
Reading to my kids was how they learned to read. They could read before they went to school. These kids don't even have that
Right? Apparently, when they are home those kids spend most of the time glued at an I pad screen. That was the saddest part
The parents could be reading to them
I was reading n writing when I entered K
I couldn’t spell well tho. Drove my parents nuts asking for spelling words I was writing for a story-I have a memory lol
@@barbarad3869 I think that's the main reason why their idea of children educating themselves won't work. If they grew up on, say, a farm raising animals and cultivating plants and building things and watching their parents and neighbours read lots of books, do crafts, play instruments and get together to discuss anything from social issues to recipes, they would develop a natural interest in learning all kinds of things. But once you introduce screens, they are so addictive they'll obliterate any curiosity the child may have had. It's sad to see they don't even have meals together as a family.
I'm not saying you can't learn anything from screens but would your 8 year old self have rather played Mario Cart or played learning games?
It doesn't always work though. I learned how to read that way but I read a lot to both of my kids and none of them has a particular interest in letters and their meaning, so my older son didn't learn until he started school at 6 and a half (we live in Austria so everything is play based until that age). It's kind of sad but my son had to be forced to learn how to read and write and the first year of school was a real struggle. I'm glad we came out the other end because now at almost 8 he finally realised how much indepence it gives him to be able to look up his science and biology stuff that he loves by himself and now he really enjoys school. If I had let him do what he wanted, he'd be doing Lego sets at a 12+ level but still wouldn't be able to write his name.
Same here. I read to all of them as babies, right on through the years. They all read above grade level at every age
He doesn't believe in the system, but in the meantime he lives from it. Please go live somewhere in the woods in your own hut and be self-sufficient so that others don't have to finance your craziness.
I worked with a Jehovah’s Witness who also didn’t believe in the system, birth control or sex outside of marriage. We worked a a federally funded community health center.. Ironically She worked in the planned parenthood department. Can’t make this 💩 up
Total free-loaders!
They want everyone's money......just not their opinion.
it begs the question why does the government allow this option
Wake up, either you rob the system or the system robs you. Your choice.
The fact that the son is teaching himself how to read via an app shows how little they meant what they said about teaching him when he's interested, also I don't think he would ever become interested if it weren't for the host here asking him if he knew how to
Duh, kids will grow an interest by things they come across in life. He came across someone who put an emphasis on reading, thus how he became interested in it
Children learn to read because they are read to, because they live in societies that have words and things that require reading, because they are curious. Children learn naturally. Unschooled children definitely have the tools they need to make it in the world. Higher education institutions usually really enjoy having home-schooled, which can include unschooled, children because they are intelligent, out of the box thinkers with unique experiences, ideas, and perspectives.
@@suzannenorton3807 children don't learn to read naturally though. We know this because there are still illiterate people in the world who were never taught to read, despite being in a world surrounded by words.
The Pandemic caused a setback for children. They're taught to read between kindergarten and first grade. But many children never received those fundamentals, and are struggling with basic reading today.
My mother is a reading teacher.
People take for granted the years they went from being read to-- to being a reader themselves. We take for granted the importance of our own literacy.
I'll also add that the government used to count on the fact that poor people and minorities couldn't read well enough to vote, which is why the electoral college exists. So that only the wealthy and most educated -white- men were voting for office.
But when the rest of the country learned to read, it was a game changer and rocked elections.
To your other point, I was a home schooled individual. I don't think any college I applied to cared that I was homeschooled. Only that I had good enough grades, and could keep up academically.... and I couldn't keep up socially, I'll tell you that much!
1:28 that beautiful dog is saying - please don’t judge me for this lifestyle 😂
A father "laughing" that his 8 year old that can't read or write his own name. Shameful. This is ridiculous. Those kids don't have a chance at self survival in the real world. Sad.
You are so right and this will impact their self esteem in society. This is child neglect
@catherinn.951 it most definitely is!!!
and here I am working hard daily to teach my 6yo who is in regular school.
You haven't done a ton of research on this subject though, have you?
@@mulligatawnysoup9281 It's basic common sense
I remember hearing a story about two families living next to each other. One was strict and the other was like this family. The kids from the strict family complained that their parents (especially their father) were very strict while the other family's kids got to do whatever they wanted and their father constantly bought them presents.
Forward years later: The kids of the strict family visited the parents often. The father once apologized to his kids for being so strict. The kids rebutted that he was the greatest father anyone could have had. Meanwhile, the kids of the other family hated their parents and never visited them and blamed them for anything difficult in their lives.
Moral to the story: Kids need structure!
This is totally illegal in the netherlands, It's been proven that there is a time window where kids pick up on reading and writing (and speech) within certain time windows. If you ignore those time windows youre setting your child up for failure this is total child neglect :(
Agree100%
In America they’d be on the street, homeless, cause all our resources go toward the millions of illegals coming across the border!
It's illegal in England too! I just googled it... school is compulsory from 5-16. I want to know how they're getting around it. If Ulyses cannot spell his name at 8 yrs old he HAS to be faililng the required benchmarks for his grade level (which would be grade 3rd grade). How are these parents not in prison???
The parents are utopian, they home school and maybe the kids aren't prepared for a life beyond the sort of freedom inside the house, maybe will exist only on benefits too.
It's also illegal in Portugal. School here is mandatory from 6 to 18 yo. This is child neglect.
I think they are a really loving family and they think that they are making wise choices, but failing to teach them about reading and having consistent schedules for sleep and nourishment is really harmful to these children. I actually feel sorry for the kids. Reading is SUCH a joy that they are keeping from their children.
some kids just dont want to read but reading to them is a encouraging moment for them to start to want to learn theres actually nothing wrong with this family at all just the education thats all the dads gives them really good foods as u can see is well
Follow up this family 5 yrs time & 10 yrs time & see whst& how happenef to thrir children's progress if any.
Baby is slwsys fussing. Is baby hungry 😢 or not happy...
I came here to say the same thing, it's the lack of reading and writing skills and basic maths that really bothers me. Some children may be naturally curious in all areas but for example my 7 year old wouldn't touch a pencil until he absolutely had to. He just had zero interest in drawing and even less in writing, loved to be read to but didn't care about reading at all. If I had asked him if he wanted to go to school, he'd definitely have preferred to stay home doing Legos all day and he'd still be doing that now he's almost 8. But instead, even though it was hard for him to learn how to write, now he's really happy he can read his comic books all by himself and he's starting to discover that writing little notes and letters can be fun too. And of course he's making friends in school, improving his social skills etc, that's another thing they are depriving their children of. I'm not saying school is a must but children need to interact with more than just their parents and siblings.
I thought the kids ate very healthily. Would you be concerned if it was a "normal" family eating each dinner "normal" food, like hamburgers, fries, pasta etc. I know so many kids with a bad diet. I think at least these kids are eating their vegetables. Also, time will tell if he wants to learn to read and write. It's too early now to say that. If he doesn't maybe he will work on a farm where he doesn't need this skill. It will be his own choice weather or not he wants to learn it. He can't blame anyone because he knows he is the captain of his ship. Not his parents, not his teachers. He will learn that he is responsible for himself. So if he can't read and that bothers him, he can still learn it. And if it doesn't bother him, why should it bother us?
Big kudos to Stacey, what a professional but friendly way to explore these issues
I could not remain so quiet and professional when both the parents are spouting such unscientific, potentially dangerous but definitely irresponsible dribble... I'm well impressed by her!!
@@lilithbernstein Ikr… she kind of reminds me of the Red Cross. Like “I don’t condone this in any way but staying neutral & respectful is the only way they’re gonna let someone in to expose the issue”
I have no doubt these parents love their kids, but they are setting them up to fail. Kids need structure and guidance.
I agree, human babies are not like puppies or kittens who already knows how to swim and can hunt by instinct
@@tettivestberg2989and these babies are doing neither of these things.
Kids as Well as adults needs structure and rules to be able to live in socity and to be able to live among others without beeing all about Them!
Agreed
The schoolsystem prepares you for a job, that benefits the economie, it teaches to obey, it is not to devellop happy smart people. I hate school and im 50😂. I feel so sorry for my kids.
My childhood was exactely like that. Iam 40 now and i have to go to therapy for many years, because rules in childhood give security an excercise and hope. For me it was an absolutely nightmare.
What was the nightmare? U wanted to study and they wouldn’t get u the materials? Or u just were ostracized among ur friends or lived way out and ur parents didn’t visit other fams so u had none? Or ur parents were drug users? Or just simple neglect no one paid attention to you, narcissism, some are extreme?
@@YeshuaKingMessiahyou don’t really need to know her details do you. I’m sure she tells her therapist and you aren’t hers.
@@YeshuaKingMessiahwell the nightmare is exactly what she just said!
No rules. Because rules in childhood give much needed stability.
Kids need this stability, they need to know when it’s time for bed and when to wake up… they need a schedule to feel secure.
Of course they need freedom and have to have a say in it!
BUT they need their parent’s rules as a support system. Because in this household they have to be the "leader" they are entirely on their own and whatever the decision they make… even if it might harm them… their parents won’t reassure them or guide them into a better future!
There are countless of parenting guides that have already shown us that a set of easy and understandable guide lines are crucial for the development of children and that is completely natural!
Children, just like animals(!), have a natural drive to learn the way their species is supposed to behave and what to do. It gives them security when faced with challenges because they got a few "key behaviours" they can use to take on that challenge and master it!
Animals reprimand their kids just like humans this is how we learn!
There is nothing wrong in listening to your kids interests and indulging them, but that’s not what’s happening here!
For example a kid taking an interest to dinosaurs would have the parent finding books in that topic and reading them to or with the child.. researching the topic and thus throw in learning how to read and write, something about history and geography as well as about evolution…
But those parents here? They just put their kids outside and say "run off learn something about being g physically active and smell this plant while you’re on it!"
Those kids can’t "self learn" or develop an interest when they aren’t exposed to things they might inquire about!!
It comes off as lazy parenting!
@@DillRidge she put it out there
I’m following up
It’s how public forums work, dear
For self therapy, keep a journal
Mmm there can be huge differences though... were your parents as present as them, as loving as them? I don't think their kids will need therapy
So...having pizza for breakfast and 3 icecream in a day is his definition of taking care of his children's health?
That REALLY hit me, just wrong. Nutrition is soooo important for strong immunity.
I agree ESP if you do injections or not. Nutrition first
They ate a lot of healthy food too, if you noticed, at the beginning. Having pizza for breakfast once in a while isn't wrong.
I’m so mad watching this
Does that mother ever put that baby down? She's constantly carrying her. Shows how insecure the mother really is!!
As an educator, this is fine to do to some extent before age 4/5, but once kindergarten comes around, they really shouldn’t be holding them back from learning academics. Learning how to read and do basic math is needed for everything. They can’t just know none of that and jump into the real world at 18 and suffer. Parents are really doing them a disservice
In many countries, formal schooling doesn't start until age 6 or 7. There is no disadvantage in that, by age 10 they have caught up with the children in other countries who started earlier. But if an 8 year old can't even spell his own name and even seems a little embarrassed about it, you need to step up as a parent. The child may not be interested in learning how to read and do math but can't understand what his life is going to be like without these basic skills.
The Neverending Story comes to mind, when the main character is told to "do what he wants" and loses himself more and more until he realizes it doesn't mean "do what you feel like right now" but "find out what you really want and how to get there"
You can do this until about 7.. that’s when children are ready to begin focusing on academics..
Many countries practice this until 4 to 5 years old. Co-sleeping is also normal.
@@sheri4673 Actually one of the advantages of starting academics later, like in Northern and Central European countries, is that children spend more time drawing, singing and doing crafts at daycare before they start school at 6 or 7. There are many studies about the benefits of extended play and voluntary learning. It is also easier to teach a 7 year old math than a 4 year old so I don't see "catching up" as a disadvantage.
They will also realize that they will meet no one with the same childhood experience. Here in Germany going to school is absolutely mandatory and as a parent you will go to jail if you don't send them. Home schooling is not allowed either
It feels like the kids have been totally set up to fail. There is no way they will be able to function adequately in the real world.
Uneducated with poor health
Maybe not your "world "🌎
@@desertqueenaz7895 What world would that be? I‘m all for homeschooling and gentle parenting but the eldest is 8 and can’t read or write and lacks basic manners as far as basic skills go he has none.
@@desertqueenaz7895not any world. They wont be able to have jobs etc.
I totally agree when a child at the age of this boy can’t even spell his own name, yes that’s a setup for failure not even know basic English grammar like ur vowels, it seems these 2 grown adults are only concerned with what they want they want to be different but these kids won’t be under 10 years old forever unless u got hoarders of cash somewhere to outdo these dumb children ur creating it’s beyond stupidity to me. The parents are grown obviously can spell ur own name.. it’s sooo narcistic to the point of unbelievable! Like I don’t even understand how the law allows them to raise nomads and it’s acceptable! I think those 2 lazy parents willing to live off of taxpayers , they are so fine with that! Why do I HAVE to work to support ur fairytale life! These are abusive parents in the worse way .deprieving ur children from learning to spell and print ur own name! That alone speaks for itself,why is that government willing to pay for a strapping ambled man and woman? So it’s the system of government that created these monsters and my hard work to keep them funded! That isn’t just whatsoever
This is extremely disturbing on multiple levels.
- Co-sleeping for so long is inappropriate and leads to psychological issues such as codependency.
If there’s no sense of boundaries or privacy, this could lead to a very bad situation where the children can’t separate familial love from romantic love.
- A child that is unable to read at age 8 is getting set up for academic failure.
- Not vaccinating and not enforcing hygienic practices sets them up for all sorts of illnesses and infections.
This is so unsettling and dangerous.
As an unschooling family i want to step in and defend this family.
There are numerous books and studies that show how allowing children to learn in their own way and at their own pace and not a pace dictated by adults is the most beneficial.
Co-sleeping or 'family rooms' is the norm in other cultures. Western society embraces early independence. There is nothing wrong or disturbing about sharing a bed with your child, we as adults share a bed because it's closeness and comfort. Why deny a child the same level of comfort forcing them to sleep alone.
Secondly, the 'schooled' age of reading has again become another western norm. Most unschooled children learn to read naturally by 10, this is a typical standard amongst unschooled children. And most learn without forced mainstream methods.
The main thing to take away from this is that these unschooled kids will grow up to have full autonomy, know exactly how THEY feel in certain situations and know THEIR own minds as opposed to being conditioned to believe what they need to rely on adults to tell them how to think feel act etc..
Peter Gray 'Free to learn' or any Peter Gray articles, books, research will explain what this family are doing
I did some searching and they are once again facing an eviction - this time for having a rooster in a suburban neighborhood. They're trying to petition this is not a nuisance when anyone who has lived near one knows they literally never shut up. These people are profoundly selfish.
If they really want to live life THEIR way, they should buy a plot of land in the country, build their own home, set up their own grid and 'live off the land' (like some do) and not 'live off taxpayers'.
I find it interesting they want to travel but don't want to work.
I think that’s a stupid reason to evict someone
@@bethgramkow5225 _Interesting_ is one way to put it. Lol.
@@smylife7486In my neighbougood my landlady, who owns have the houses in the village, got chicks and a rooster all of a sudden. Haha, can I evict HER? 😄 You get used to that sound very quickly actually.
Parents often forget that above and beyond loving and caring for their offspring, their job is to make sure their kids are equipped to navigate and survive in the real world. A world filled to the brim with other human beings. It's devastating for kids to go out there and discover that their wants and needs are not high on everyone else's priority list.
Yes I can imagine adolescence being a reaally hard time for them
These parents should be jailed😅
It seems these parents aren’t equipped for the real world either considering they live completely of the tax payers dime while shitting on said system and society. A completely capable man living off the hard work of others is so shameful
@@Not_a_witchCompletely capable men living off the hard work of others is very shameful ...and very American too
@@WatchingyouWatchingme-p5s more European. Europe and Canada have more welfare programs than the US
I had seriously considered unschooling my now tween son. He's autistic and has ADHD and has always been very inquisitive. He started reading at age 2 and was very interested in math from a young age, figuring out how multiplication worked before starting kindergarten. He was very interested in volcanoes and at age 3, he had me reading textbooks from the library about volcanoes and he wanted to become a seismologist when he grew up. After that, he got really into space and learned everything about the solar system, the different planets, their temperatures, moons, distance from the sun, day/night cycles etc. And this was all before any formal schooling. Formal schooling actually slowed down his academic learning, but it increased his social learning which was very important to us since he's autistic and has a hard time with the social aspect. I prefer it when he has teachers that don't give homework because he learns most things the first time he sees them and homework is just annoying busywork form him. At home we focus on life skills like cooking, cleaning, and self care. We also teach how to manage household finances and the importance of resilience in doing things that you don't want to do.
I think there is a balance that needs to be there. I understand the fear of medications that could give your child life long side effects when the risk of the disease is slim to none, but when you are putting yourself in a dangerous situation, you have to weigh the risks. Extreme views on both sides of arguments are usually both wrong in some ways. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
The schooling destroyed that curiosity and desire to learn in my youngest son..,
Love your response. Too many just tow the line or also shun everything.
It seems like this approach is better suited to a situation like yours- your child is self driven to learn and figure out a subject expertise, but I do like that you noted social learning is important and part of school. Hopefully you can find a nice balance that works for your family, the best of both worlds. Seems like you have a scientist in the making!
@@w8what575can't agree more here - as op said, there should be a balance. But the school system where I was growing up did nothing but progressively suck the life out of me and my peers. I saw everyone gradually declining in motivation, the sparks in their eyes slowly fading. By the time we graduated it felt like we were zombies compared to how we started.
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It makes all the difference when a parent actually puts forth the effort in fostering those curiosities the way you say you have. These two read a couple articles and watched a few videos and just repeated what they heard I swear.
I have a teaching degree and we concidered homeschooling but my son needed the social interaction. I swear she read the definition of unschooling off to her.
If you're going to be homeschooling you have to have the capacity to _teach_ your kids... If you're going to unschooling it an even larger undertaking but people don't see what's beyond "childed learning." the caregivert[s] need to have a huge grasp on... _everything_ really. I could have told you a dozen things that playing on the swing and climbing was good for... I'd be willing to bet you could have as well. An 8 yo can learn more than PE from climbing. You have to be able to pick up on what your child coukd take away from the activity that day... "While you're up there... Try x, y, z... What do you think would happen if x, y, z?" etc.
Kids learn through play... Yes great for sure... 💯 That's at the very core of child development. I know what alot of the info she's referring to is actually regarding... This ain't it... People who have successfully unschooled and have children who can successfully manage in the real would be appalled by this "method."
Teaching through play and experimenting with their environment the most before like 6... Most things are easy to teach when you can disguise it or incorporate it into play. Unschooling (I almost wrote "unlearn"... Which is what these kids will need to do) definitely the next step... Again... When you have the ability to actually incorporate the basics into the things they love doing. I didn't ever hear them say "that's a cool red berry... [that you need to take out of your mouth before you're poisoned... Oh wait... immunitiy.]"
They say they aren’t taking advantage of the system. They truly are. I work hard every day and am struggling. I would feel so guilty not working and living off of the government
Personally, as a mother, and especially when I became a single mother, I struggled deeply with feeling like I was missing out on watching my daughter grow.
I got my tax return, put back several months rent, and quit..never looked back. I’m now a stay at home mom who takes care of the pets and house (luckily for me, my partner makes enough to support us) and I’m so grateful for the opportunity I have. I’m glad I can say I spend everyday with my daughter that I get. I don’t dream of laboring jobs, I dream of raising my family.
What makes me different than them, if anything? If you’re gonna get mad at the parents using benefits, you should be mad at all of the ones taking benefits (staying at home is a privilege for the rich that most average parents will never experience)
@@sullyrane653 in my opinion you know what you can do what you want but what you are doing is incredibly dangerous. What if you’re man leaves you and you’re stuck alone without any savings or anything to depend on? I hope you have savings I’m not trying to judge your situation, but how can you judge others for getting upset for people taking advantage of the government when they very well could go work and do something
@@sullyrane653 staying home is a privilege for the rich and so is having children..
The mother speaks about having extensively researched. Thus, she can read. Why? She has been taught to read. One cannot recognise a letter, such as a, b, or c, without having been taught what it means, how it functions in words, and how words combine in sentences. Mother talks about researching, but the children are not empowered to make choices.
I feel really sorry for the children. They are being locked in a cage of ignorance.
The thing that got me was their eating habits... seingi that boy crouching in front of his plate and stuffing food into his mouth ... and no family meals - for me that's a sign of neglect because shared meal times are quality family time...
Sorry, but that reminded me of a monkey eating 😢
"I am very well researched...on social media"
That explains a lot.
All these anti-vaxxers suddenly have medical degrees. I've worked in medicine my whole life, and I know that there needs to be more research done to investigate illnesses and medical problems. None of that research involves social media.
I was looking for that comment 😀.
And also: there are thousands of children that have died of measles and that were breast fed, aka have gotten their mum’s antibodies, as she said. I wonder what they’d do if one of their children had an accident and a brain bleed. Oregano? I’m aghast.
@@UsernamesForDummies The mum's antibodies last only for a very short time. That's why immunization programs start at 4 months of age. The parents in the video are deluded, and un-vaccinated children can spread illness, oregano or not!
Yeh holy crap 😆
I fear that I may have sprained something, from my massive eye roll 🙄
She actually said that she has done her research and on social media she shares that info. It was a run-on sentence. She wasn't saying she researches on social media.
They haven’t given their kids a chance to do anything period. I don’t think this mom knows anything…. The dad is delusional…. Why should anyone pay their rent when they constantly get evicted because they don’t respect anyone let alone their neighbors
Very entitled spoiled behavior.
Just wait until they are teenagers. They will be running wild!
The mom is "educated" because she's on "social media". What a joke. She doesn't even know how much she doesn't know...This world requires education and literacy skills, along with self-discipline. Children feel most safe when there are routines in the household. Without any rules or routines, how are they going to manage in our society? Get benefits, of course!
The children are now 13, 9, and 5. Where are they now?
I would LOVE to know
They have a UA-cam and Instagram account. The son learned how to read and spends all his time gaming. The middle daughter is involved in all these activities and knows how to sew clothes. The youngest tags along with her older sister.
@@Wolf-r9d What is it called?
@@fallingfast1862 “The Unconventional Parent” for both UA-cam and Instagram. The profile picture is the parents and their daughters.
@@fallingfast1862 The Unconventional Parent
My mom thought me how to read when I was 3, she made it fun and I liked it, she would also read a story every night, I still can remember how amazing I felt the first time I read a whole "book" by myself (it was like 30 pages and I was 4) reading is not just a skill, it's also a way to open up your mind to new things and a source of knowledge in any subject, which would expand the world of these kids so much, I love reading now and I will always be thankful that my mom nourished that love for reading. I don't think these parents nourish or teach to their kids anything at all, I mean, there's love... but that's about it
You mean your mom taught you not thought you?
Thanks for the correction, english is not my first language and I usually have my keyboard in spanish so it's only natural that some things slip here and there
@@elenaangulo4397 just thought it was ironic considering the subject 😆
This type of negligent parenting is the dumbing down of the Western society. The Asian especially Chinese societies are thrilled we are taking to this type of lazy negligent living because they continue to demand high educational and behavioral standards of their children. This will make it easy for the Chinese to take over the rest of the world as long as we just sit back and let the other industrialized nations become more powerful we will soon all be speaking Chinese.
I can't believe someone would want to give their children less than what they had while growing up.
But maybe in other aspects they give them more than they had while growing up?
@@jojobee42 only if you mean in more ways to fail. Or more dental health problems.
Your opinion is totally wrong. Giving your child everything he wants is a way to juat destruct his life.
It makes them feel better about laying on their behinds. My ex husband was the same. God forbid they be functional members of society
@@danielakresic4745 There's such thing as a middle ground.
The kids "Don't know what they Don't know." AND put the baby down! Let the baby explore, made me nuts!
Yes, babies need lots of floor time!
It’s clear that after raising two other children who clearly run, play and explore, that the mom knows what she is doing
Exactly that! The mom says the children don’t have a set curriculum and just learn what they want and when they want, but they don’t even know what they want to learn. It’s important to at least be exposed to different subjects so that the kids can FIND what they are interested in 🤦♀️
Those kids will be so upset when they gain understanding.
If....
If they ever gain understanding
You can't call them parents if they don't parent. This whole lifestyle seems built around the father's wishes to live a carefree life.
And so he can mansplain the meaning of life to other ppl.
He’s lazy.
Very not normal behaviour Maybe ok in some countries but not all.
Yes and moms emotional avoidance
The father is a total loser, he doesn’t feel bad for taking money from the government yet he has a issue with them. Sounds like a spoiled brat ungrateful child.
I understand giving children the ability to make choices and embracing their free spirit but I think just as a household can be too rigid, too strict, it can also be too relaxed and not enough structure. I think it's important to embrace the best of both worlds, find an appropriate middle way because children need some structure in order to learn the basics reading, writing, math, science, etc... They need to also have free time and the opportunity to find stimulation in New hobbies, to be independent and choose interests and hobbies. My parents were pretty relaxed, but I had to go to school, study, clean my room, practice good hygiene, as long as I did those things my parents allowed me to explore my own interests, on weekends I could stay up later. By the time I was 14 years old, I really didn't need rules because I knew what my responsibilities were and as long as I kept up with my school responsibilities, homework, chores, they let me enjoy my free time doing what I enjoy hiking, bike rides, soccer, friends, etc... it's important for children to understand that life is a lot of fun but sometimes you have to study, wash dishes, do laundry, go to school and work a job and once you complete your responsibilities, then you can embrace your free spirit and explore interests and hobbies. It's important to learn how to read, write, do math, science, etc.. without the basics, children will grow up without the opportunity to go to college, or vocational school or high school, or play sports, what about money and learning the value of things... It's important to prepare children to be able to be self reliant, independent and be able to support themselves. You can be a free spirit and still work a job, what about goals, dreams, ambition, motivation... Kids need both guidance and freedom...
Why do these parents think it's ok for other people who work,and pay tax,to support them and their kids?How entitled can you get?
Like the windsors
Because no one has told them No. So sad.
ept the Windsors have many duties to perform. just sayin. not the saME
@@catherinecurtis9275yes, they are kind of diplomats, pr people.
@@julianskinner3697the Windsor’s bring in a ton of money to the British economy. Their jobs may not be be what you would consider work, but I’ll bet you’d be pretty tired after doing their jobs for any length of time.
I can’t imagine how stressed those little kids are with no guidance and no boundaries.
As much as I hate everything about this, my 6 year old son would hate it more, ultimately. He’d be miserable without structure.
Yes, lack of guidance can be stressful
Kids feel most secure when there are routines in the household!
@frederikac.5153 absolutely. Shame on these parents.
They don' t look stressed.
@@RosaGrau2014they’re pale and dining on ice cream for multiple meals and zoned into iPads.
I think this is very interesting, I love how respectful you are, even with intrusive and blunt questions. I see how on one hand how child led learning can be beneficial for a child yet at the same time I believe routine is so important.
I’m sad the kids aren’t in school but they do have unfettered access to their iPad. That’s sad. The eating, crouched over, with their hands also made me really sad. Cute and innocent as a child but as an adult, finding a life partner and you eat with your hands in the corner- that’s going to be a hard life. Makes me really sad
Many cultures eat with their hands.....I was married to a Hindu and we lived with his family and I soon adapted to their ways. When I came back to NZ I found eating with utensils horrible. They spoiled the taste of the food. Our kids ate by hand as well. Have you never eaten a sausage roll with your hands? Biscuits or a piece of cake? Fish and chips? Sweets?
@@juanitarichards1074that’s even different than what is being noticed here. They are simply not giving these kids any skills and I think the way they let these kids eat is totally different than being in a culture or eating food with your hands. These kids are just not being taught anything at all. These parents didn’t share a cultural way to eat with their kids or have any good reasons for them to eat that way ie food tasting better etc. they only do so because their parents won’t even teach them something as basic as eating with a fork or even eating with their hands but being clean and still having manners. It isn’t the same thing. I don’t think anyone would even notice the eating with hands if they weren’t just doing so simply due to their parents inability to teach them anything at all. They are just lazy parents altogether so of course that will be noticed plus they aren’t even saying to them to wash up for dinner first they let them play outside where animals go potty then just let them go at dinner. No medical attention so then that leaves those kids at high risks of getting very ill and even losing their lives. Also I’ve seen those who eat everything with their hands but they still have manners, they still show cleanliness and this is absolutely not the same thing with this family here. They are simply lazy.
At least they won't be travelling with three kids because they won't be able to afford it
@@kirstenornelas881I couldn't agree with you more. They definitely don't even need to have children. They are raising them like animals maybe even worse. I think it's a shame to see this. They are not teaching anything. These parents are insane and further more down right disgusting human beings. Lazy and crazy people.
@@marianalagoa4274 I hope they don't because they aren't even ready to give their kids a Tetanus shot or antimalarial medicine. Because the mother did "extensive research", on UA-cam no doubt. That really upset me because I volunteered at a health clinic in Sierra Leone and updated the patient files. So many files that hadn't been updated in a while belonged to children who had died of Malaria when they were young. Of course when you travel through Africa, you see older children and adults getting Malaria and recovering fairly quickly, but that's because they've had it 20 times before. You don't see the ones who passed away.
At least for Sierra Leone, you need to prove you were vaccinated against Yellow Fever to even enter the country. But the thought that they might want to drag their children from country to country without health insurance and a sufficient budget is scary.
In my country, failing to give your child formal education constitutes child abuse and could get you charged or your children can be taken away. Also, if you're fully capable to work and don't, you would NEVER qualify for state support. These people are just lazy and entitled and quite frankly, deluded.
Thats great
Sounds like the Netherlands and they are right
Perhaps that’s the result of generations of living off the system never giving anything back…they do it well. It becomes their norm to be provided for with no effort. Is that what the system is set up for?
@@Bruintjebeer6 probably norway
@@carolyngreen5458 what the worst part is is that they think anyone should do it. Without thinking where the money has to come from to put every family with under aged kids on welfare. And the naive thought that when his kids are adults for the law it will be easy to get a job.
i dated a guy who's parents did this after like 8 or so and he was incredibly limited emotionally and mentally. he was straight up a child
I would love to know what ending that relationship looked like.
Why did you date him?
Brave of you to admit that you dated a guy who was limited emotionally and mentally- as I’d imagine you’d know pretty much from the get-go 😅
As someone who works in juvenile justice, let me tell you. Kids like this are in our system. I’m in America, but know if you don’t care or parent your child/children, the juvenile justice system or prison will have to deal with them
The homeschooling community in the U.S. is getting bigger and bigger. I completely disagree with you. I’d like to see the data that backs up your claim.
I am a lawyer in Germany and I agree with you. Every child (14+) that faced charges seemed like they never heard "No" in their life. The parents are allowed to speak before the verdict in Germany and every parent said the exact same thing "surprised because we always did what the child wanted". Some children even screamed at their parents in the courtroom.
@@nadjadavidson411 There is a big difference between homeschool and the unschooling/let your child do any and everything they want lifestyle.
@@nadjadavidson411she’s not speaking to homeschooling
It’s about not being told - you will now or no.
Those parents are utterly exhausted let me tell u - by entitled kids
Homeschooling is literally teaching & chores & routines along with exploring n free time
@@nadjadavidson411homeschooling and unschooling is not the same thing
When I worked in an early learning school, we gave students opportunities to develop skills like using scissors, puzzles, etc. Their proficiency in these skills was not typically incremental. It was amazing to see a child struggle and show no improvement for weeks, then one day be proficient. I can see the rationale that children will learn skills when they are developmentally ready to do so.
I just can’t look past the lack of socialization the kids seem to experience, especially the 8 year old.
I think the parents in this case aren't understanding the part of child lead education that involves the actual education. It's not just letting your kids be feral...you still have to teach, you just do it in a way that uses life experiences as opportunities to learn and practice skills. This is just zero education. If you don't school, you must still teach. This is just babysitting. There's no teaching, no learning, no effort.
But how will the child learn something they’ve never seen or experienced? These parents give them nothing to learn about. These children look very bored with life.
They aren’t offering the kids real educational opportunities.
Socialization:
Sit at a desk, listening to a teacher, then do your work.
Outside of the classroom, be bullied or bully your classmates.
Never interact with anyone but your own age and development.
Real socialization involves multiple generations:
Young folks 18-20’s work alongside 30/40’s and 50-60’s.
Children are missing out from when society had one-room schools.
@@salauerman7082 you are right, school isnt a good setup for socialising.
But its better than the nothingness the kids in this video seem to experience
Why doesn’t the dad have a job, or did I miss something? Where will the children learn about accomplishment, work ethic, respect for authority? We live in a society whether he likes it or not. Also, is it hypocritical that they don’t wan5 to be a part of the system except when it comes to that system paying for them.
Why should we learn respect for authority? That’s bullshit. Which authority figures are not corrupt, greedy and willing to be violent to asset their dominance. We are done with that mentality and this family is leading the way!
sometimes he gives yoga classes, that's his job.
32:01 I'm an early childhood teacher and the most simple observation tells me that this baby wants to go and explore. The mother seems to know her actions are strange and is using the baby as a shield
Matt: “We don’t send our kids to school, we keep them home and go on walks so that they learn about the ground and that it’s not always level. This is how they learn how to adapt to different environments”.
School: “A different environment? Like…me?”
They treat that 8 year old like he’s still developmentally 12 months old and expect nothing more from him. It’s like they haven’t bothered to realize that seven years have passed.
Yes 🙄😳😅🤨....
and they're totally failing that child. My parents just made sure I didn't die. (for the most part.. we often wandered off and they never were involved with our schooling. we were to just go and then asked later if our homework was done. never checked. I was a BRILLIANT........ C student. Now at 54 I have worked retail my entire life, have not one dime saved because I always worked paycheck to paycheck. I never have motivation to do anything extra. It's literally built into my psyche. THIS is what this kind of parenting does.
Oh.. and I could have been an A+ honor roll student, I could have went to law school or even been a mechanical engineer making 6 figures. Buthere I am struggling to pay the bills making minimum wage in an industry I've been in for 30+ years. THANKS MOM AND DAD! smh.
@@Kristinapedia although I agree with u - at some point u have to take accountability & you've literally had 30+ years to do something different. When u were young it was easy to get a house , u could have either sold your house & gotten a cheaper one , or got a cheap one to begin with , go to school part time or especially a trade school which is not near as expensive & u could be making 6 figures. It's your choices that led u where you're at. If you'd been investing even $200 per month collecting interest u could have over a million dollars. Granted I guess you're saying because of how u were raised is why u never done any of these things but like I said at some point u have to take accountability. There's plenty of people whom had absolutely terrible childhoods who end up being successful. These children in the vid are absolutely are being set up for failure & laziness though & it's sad
I don’t think so, when you are in a home with parents that are lazy, its affects some children in different ways.
We are not the same, so we learn to be someone without motivation and the way to progress because our brain has only learned what we see and hear. It’s a learned experience, and that is all this kids have.
So when you say, you could have done something different, learn something new, so she could have gone to be a lawyer nurse dr. Whatever, you have to learn it first. I mean the brain. Everything is possible but, we need to train our brain to learn how to learn basically.
I think you can still do something amazing, a nurses aid, it’s a great career and you are not too old to learn.
I hope that you have some in your life that tells you, you can do anything in life as long as you want to learn and the work.
@@WarmongerYT”could have” doesn’t help anyone. Yeah, it’s important to take responsibility but why tell someone about a past they still can’t change instead of telling them what can be done with the time they DO have??
They don’t have friends? Can you imagine being 8 and can’t read and write? The kid’s friends would pick on him, if he had any friends. So not only there’s no education, there’s also no socialization
How are they going to travel the world with no money, no job, no education?
They could only if they worked labor jobs at each location while they live there for a few mos to explore on their off times
Prob travelling alone and not even having a car (stay in hostels, use public transit, walk ALOT)
U can do anything if ur willing
But touristy travel? Nah. They’re never affording that.
I homeschool, but make sure I teach science, math, english, etc.. Kids need to have the basics in order to not be behind if they decide to be a doctor or engineer. I am familiar with this because I had parents who severely neglected my education. In college I competed with others for a medical related degree emphasizing math and science. I had to work my tail off to catch up and compete. It was exhausting. Also, there is a body of knowledge that those who came before us have discovered to help us understand the world. I think it's a shame to not know any of this.
love this family.
They are living the way we are naturally meant to live.
God bless them all.
Thank you so much for commenting something positive I noticed that a lot of people said a lot of negative things and it makes me happy seeing that some one is choosing positivity over negativity!
They don’t even know how to read. This is outrageous.
@@mina7199 yes that is true but, at the end of the video it did show that the kids learning how to or at least the brother was. Also some kids don't learn how to read until they're much older and there's nothing wrong with that.
'Schooled' expectation of learning when and how to read has of course become accepted as normal. Most unschooled kids learn to read by age 10, this is unschooled standard and the more biologically normal way as opposed to societal norm
My heart goes out to that poor dog living with all those undisciplined humans.
😂
I'm sure the dog doesn't get adequate vet care, either. Dogs don't "decide" to fast. If he's not eating, he's not well!
The dog "decides" to fast! He looked at his dogfood and said, "Nope, not today! I'm getting too fat!". What a joke, they won't even get veterinary care for their pet.
I've had a good number of dogs in my life. None of them ever "fasted".
My heart goes to all the animals that are intensively farmed and killed to feed a man-made mutant called "dog".
I was shocked to learn 8 yr old Ulysses cannot read nor write which cuts off entire worlds from children's imaginations.
How unfortunate.
Do they know their numbers?
@@Kiki-mk4op Your methods prove that a child can learn at home just as well as they can at a school, provided they have access to adults willing to share knowledge with them.
To know that these bright intelligent children are being denied the wonders of the written word and the magic of mathematics (under the guise of non-stop free play) seems a grave disservice.
No need...The parents are detach from reality. They must not have Child Protective Services in UK.
Yes, i dont like school, but if you can read you can learn anything, and enjoy yourself. So that is realy important. And learning at home can be be more comfortable then at school. I think learning this from aroun 6 year old is ok. 8 year you should be able to read. My youngset is 12 and hates reading. But you need it for games, reading subtitels etc😅.
Exposing kids to dogs helps their immune system?; What are these people smoking?
I didn’t read until I was 11 years old and I have a 99 percentile in reading
Nonetheless, I’m teaching my baby to read as early as possible
I can't judge this family - I don't know. All I see is happy children - truly a beautiful happy family. In the long scheme of life - does it matter if a child reads at a certain age or that if one reads? This is a type of therapy used for autism (unschooling or Son-rise program) following the child's lead! It has phenomenal results in the autism community - so I can't imagine with neurotypical children. I'm never one to judge. I appreciate learning how these parents are raising their beautiful family. As the world is now - this may be what we need? Never ever judge! Thank you for this video Stacey Dooley.
I get what you’re saying, the kids are young now. What’s going to happen when their teenagers. At least teach them to read.
They don’t even force their kids to brush their teeth everyday?!! That’s so wrong!!
No child "wants" to brush their teeth every time, but their teeth will be rotted and gnarly if they aren't taught to care for them, setting them up for a lifetime of dental issues. Rotting teeth could lead to heart problems, which could quite literally kill them! I can understand wanting to encourage inquisitiveness and exploration but parents also need to instill stability, structure, and good habits. These kids may not fare so well as adults.
Hey I don’t remember to brush my teeth but I at least try to
It’s ok, they know they won’t have to pay for a dentist appointment because the tax payers will pay for them 🤷🏻♀️ same as they know very well their children have no chance to a proper job without any qualifications or even basic education and they will also live off benefits.
How is this not child neglect is beyond me
Or that if they weren't hungry they wouldn't have to eat all day🙈
@@EmberEckel I mean unless you’re sick and your appetite has been affected, normally you only need to eat when hungry. If you eat when you’re not hungry then you’ll gain weight. Our bodies are really good at knowing when we need to eat. I will say that personally I do tend to occasionally really focus on stuff and I don’t even notice I’m hungry and forget to eat though I definitely am hungry.
The thing is that the rest of the world outside the family bubble has rules. Those poor kids are going to be so confused when they walk into a room and don’t know what’s going on but everyone else knows perfectly well. Just leaving home and entering a strangers house or a mainstream institution will be like traveling to a foreign country. I understand the love here but the tragic reality of parenting is “socialization” of your children. It’s painful but necessary
Kids learn really fast. The rules aren't hard to understand bur kids that have been brought up like this often have great self confidence and self belief.
We don't just believe what we are told either.
@@mulligatawnysoup9281But other children are usually pretty blunt. They'll shun the weird kid who doesn't know what's expected socially. Poor socialization affects everything - job opportunities, friendships, romantic relationships, financial opportunities.
I went to school and I was shunned for being different . It was horrible and didn't help me one bit, but one of the three brothers that didn't go to school is a millionaire club and restaurant owner( with Michelin stars).
He didn´t learn to conform to other peoples expectations of him, and just always did what he felt like doing. Very successfully.
The other brother didn't do so well but I don't believe that our school system is the only way to go.
I did send my daughters to school. They are both at uni now.
I am just saying, from experience, that not conforming to the norm isn't always bad. Especially when the norm is eating fast food and playing computer games. All of my family questions the status quo and think very independently which I think is a very good trait. We don't just believe what we are told because we know that not everything presented to us is in our intererest. @@ChiCityLady
@@mulligatawnysoup9281but how old will they be when they lead this lesson? Kids? Teens? Adults? I feel if the parents keep this up they will end up with runaways or late teen children who will fall into depression when they have to engage with the rest of humanity on an adult level.
@@mulligatawnysoup9281 kids learn very fast depending on age or situations. I’ve seen secluded kids learning social skills by 35 years old. That was fast AF 😅
I sure hope you do a follow up on this family. It would be nice to see how their kids are doing once they are in high school. It would be good to see the results of their methods and see if they did any adjustments.
Okay, wait. So the guy thinks everyone should be able to stay home and let the government take care of their finances. But....who's going to finance the government to let them do that if everyone is staying home to raise their kids?
This has always been the biggest lie of communism... not to mention that you ARE giving all the power of decision to the goverment
Also, who is going to work in the factories and in the shops, who is going to fix your car when everyone is at home with their kids.
He believes *_they should be able to_* not *_they must be forced to_* and the difference is huge. I wholeheartedly agree with him. I'd still be a teacher in his ideal world but I'd be able to choose my hours and days depending on my wants and needs and the same would apply for everyone else. That's a fantastic idea.
@@availanila so if everyone chose their own hours and no one wanted to to work the weekends, then what?
@@jbh666 people aren't inherently lazy and "weekend" is a social construct. If no concept of workday/weekday was enforced there'd be no concept of weekend. Also, with how other religions work we'd have Muslims taking Fridays off, Adventists and Jews Saturdays off and Christians Sundays and just like that people are covering for each other. And also, a lot of non-essential works shut down for weekends and holidays anyways so no bog deal other.
Man I hope you all don’t go down that path my sister had too with all 3 of her children once they became 12 years old… jury, drugs & alcohol, prison for 2 out of 3, couch bums, lost her grandkids, back too prison and not talking “jail” prison in America is big boy prison, all 3 still causing her stress today and they all 3 are in their 30’s and a year off! And she done the same way you have done! Please do another with this family in 15 years and another 10 years after and let us know how it all worked for them!!🙌🙌
What interests me is that this family expects to have the basic amenities such as electricity, running water, sewage, an allotment and luxuries such as WiFi, social media, devices and luxury foods without contributing anything to the costs. I also wonder what would the parents do if one of the children became seriously ill or was involved in an accident, would they be prepared to use conventional medicine? Given that neither of the parents are employed in the formal sector, will the children be able to find any form of employment especially being illiterate?
Money doesn't come out of thin air Matt. Wouldn't it be wonderful for all parents to spend all day with their children but who is going to pay for it? Other hard working parents are paying for your benefits how is this fair on them?
100%!!! They shouldn’t use pave roads!!! They shouldn’t go hospitals when they get sick. They are family of leeches!!!!
Yeah, his comment about all parents staying at home was wild. No parent working means no money. At least they can get a part time job, I don't think that would be detrimental to their kids, but teach them some kind of independence and let them know the parents won't be there forever.
Exactly. What does this family contribute to society? The children have been denied medical and dental care. At some point the children are going to get sick because of this neglect, and they may spread infectious diseases to vulnerable members of society. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Influenza.
Perhaps you should also be advocating for a different system so you can spend more time with your children too, instead of criticizing someone else jealously, who’s chosen his children over the corporations
I love the speech about “choosing” his children. It’s a luxury he’s afforded while all of his countrymen afford this for he and his wife. What a privilege. Absurd.
What’s different in this than a stay at home mom relying on her partner to bring home the funds?
(Obviously these kids aren’t your average and these parents aren’t either, I’m not speaking of the schooling or parenting, specifically, the funding only, and I’m asking this question AS a SAHM so would love the context of how this is exactly different in everyone’s mind)
@@sullyrane653 both parents don’t work a real job….. they’re expecting society to fund their lifestyle. That’s absurd. Each household should fund its own choices. You’ll never convince me I should have to carry the weight of two able bodied, fully capable adults and their children plus my family as well. I’m sorry adulthood is hard for him and traditional 9-5’s aren’t “fun”, but if he can’t find success in entrepreneurship, he needs to think of how to properly support his children. Being a stay at home mother requires an in home partner to go out and provide the living of two workers. I would know, for a time, my husband did this as there was no other way for us due to his work schedule. I now work and he has changed jobs so he can be home every day. We both support our household and we both always have. It’s never been easy, but it’s insane to think of our lives being the responsibility of strangers simply because the idea of work fatigues us.
Lol!!!!! Wait, you're trying to say that he's the absurd one??????🧐🤨😆 Mmmk
@@sullyrane653SAHM isn’t married to the state
She has a spouse out earning an income while she works for free alllll day into evening n while they’re on vacation n while she’s ill or injured
If wealthy people were taxed appropriately, everyone could work less and spend more time with their families, why aren’t you advocating for that? Working a 9-5, doing mindless tasks only does one thing, makes wealthy people more rich and you more burnt out and exhausted. Don’t criticize because they’ve untangled themselves from an exploitative system, you can do it too!
In the U.S., this is considered neglect and will get your children taken from you. These parents are ignorant to the fact that they're doing a huge disservice to their children and their capability on becoming productive members of society.
The parents are making every intellectual excuse to justify this form of child neglect that they are perpetuating. There might be a lot of love in this family, but in the long run, they are doing their children a real disservice when it comes to preparing them for interaction with the real world.
We have a saying in panama “the way to hell is made of good intentions “ it means that regardless of the good intention, it can have a shitty outcome
@@panamamelissa The parents are loving but their approach to parenting is wrong on many levels.
@@nicolebond3992yes
This is just parents not parenting. Taking zero responsibility for their kids which breeds kids with zero responsibility imo
when the kid said he can’t even read it brought me back to AR points and my brother read almost every single book in the library at his age. AR points were a great way to encourage kids to read even though the prize wasn’t as rewarding at the end of it all you know they still got to take away from it all. From what I remember I didn’t really like our points, but it still got me reading and gave me structure in a way and now I miss that structure. I think these kids may have so much energy because they don’t know what else to do with it. Life isn’t all about play and going at your own schedule, which is why structures important. I remember at home life growing up and it wasn’t structured at all like school was and in my opinion no one is able to replicate the structure at school. These parents, of course don’t even have that as a philosophy as something that’s necessary. Their heart may be in the right place. But in the end it is negligence
The son realized she misspoke a word because he’s used to his parents reading it out loud to him.
Not because he himself could read and recognized the error.
People keep saying”well the garden.”
“The house is clean.”
THEY JUST MOVED INTO THAT HOME WEEKS PRIOR. They don’t pay rent.
He did NOT grow that oregano… or that garden…he found it while mowing on camera.
Nah.
Great observations
They're a pair of lazy dossers
Their allotment garden looked like an over-grown disaster. Grow all your vegetables there???
I don't know, the house seems to me uncleaned, as if the carpet is never vacuumed. It also seems that they read the same book over and over again and the kid just memorized it. I agree, the garden looks unkept, like the one where rodents live 😕
The baby with the necklace on almost gave me a panic attack. Very unsafe for a baby to be wearing something like that around their neck.
I think, in a way, by not allowing a child an education, or medication is neglect. It is clear they love their child, and they feed , clothe and spend time with them, but I'm sorry every child deserves an education and medication. They need structure and routine, of course they do, as well as fun, there has to be a balance .
The emotional closeness in this family is remarkable.
Any updates on this family? Would like to see them at 16+.
Kids are all in benefits!!! Even though their parents did not pay in anything!!!
@@chrisljieunThat figures because they have neither the knowledge nor the mentality to hold a job.
Anka, are you just taking a complete stranger´s throwaway commit as fact????? You certainly didn't learn to think for yourself?@@ankavoskuilen1725
@@ankavoskuilen1725The kids are under 16 so they can’t get a job, I follow them on social media. They still aren’t sending the kids to school, they also posted about letting their kids brush their teeth whenever. They post a lot about being anti-trans, anti-school, and they are facing another eviction.
i read in the comments that they have a yt channe4l called the unconventional family :o
I can see these kids resenting their parents in a few years time when they are so far behind what it takes to actually hold down a job or basically do anything in life
Not to mention the internet does not forget and at least one of the three will be incredibly embarassed and filled with hate and loathing of their parents for subjecting them to this permanence of embarassment even if their name was not provided - data and info will be existing forever
This is highly unlikely to be the result of their upbringing.
I don’t think these children will want to hold a full time job. No one should have to, there are enough resources for everyone to work less, spend more time with family and pursue their interests - the only thing working a 9-5 job does is make you exhausted and a wealth person more rich.
Stacey is great! She's a natural at her job as a presenter.
This is what "traumatized" adults who never wanted to actual adult but are stuck in their kid world do when they themselves decide to have kids. How much do you have to hate yourself and your parents to one day decide to mess up your own kids. They're delusional. I feel sorry for the little ones.
I think those children have parents who care about them and are really trying to make their lives good. If I was you I would spend my time and energy feeling sorry for the neglected children that spend their days playing video games and eating processed food.
@@mulligatawnysoup9281 they literally answered "pizza" when she asked them what they had for breakfast 💀
Nailed it. This woman will keep popping out a human so she can keep hiding away from reality on the government. These seniors from the 60s and 70s are homeless now because they never thought about the future.... I was in therapy for 12 years as a result of this Free model of parenting. I met a guy at work who for his age was super efficient and over productive, we had coffee and he said "I've always had to be like this my parents were hippies". We swapped our general life stories and both of cried for each other and all the other fkd up kids being raised like this because we were feral and had to pay so much attention to others in conforming families to learn all the social stuff we missed.
@@mulligatawnysoup9281but... they're playing video games ( hours on the tablet) and eating processed food (ice cream, Oreos, etc)
I am a firm believer of education. Also, i am a firm believer of free play time. In my opinion, there needs to be balance between the two for some kind of success later in those kids lives. Just my view of it tho.
You can absolutely let you kid be free and explore, play and relax after school or the weekends. I totally agree
Wonderfully interesting episode. Thanks Stacey and Origin, for this.
This makes me so sad for those children. I am fine with alternative schooling, in today’s day and age it may actually be better. But it still needs to be structured. Kids at that age will always choose to play over school, who wouldn’t? But they should be guiding them to learning about the world around them. Taking a walk, learn about the various plants and animals, the weather, solar system, etc. If you wait for the kids to be like “ok I’m ready to learn now”…….you will be waiting a very long time. That poor boy will be 12/13 and still not know how to read/write and probably won’t know basic math skills either. I think their parenting style has already affected him detrimentally. Sitting on the floor, hovering over his food, cramming it in his mouth…….and you can’t interact when he’s eating? Something very wrong with that picture.
I think it’s great to teach the kids about the world by traveling the world but let’s be real, those kids will never learn anything b/c they don’t want to. They have not been guided to be curious about learning or else the boy would know how to read by now. I know not everyone is the same, but I loved reading at his age. I learned to read by the time I was 3, and was in an advanced reading program at school. I devoured all kinds of books, but at that age, they were mostly about dinosaurs.
They should be taking them to museums and places that encourage imagination and learning. If there ever comes a point they are forced to sit them down and actually teach them to read (like when the boy is a teenager), they will resist and probably end up hating reading.
In the end, they are setting those kids up to fail as adults, and they will end up on welfare themselves.
I was searching for that comment! Thank you! I worked with a lot of children in different ages and I‘m pretty sure the son already has some developmental issues. I mean it makes sense when the parents don’t put any effort in the Brain development of their children.
What’s going on with his hands next to his face all the time?
I think unschooling can look very different than that. More like you explained here. And I think as a parent you are able to support their curiosity to different things like for example reading or writing.
Nobody talks about that the kids eat icecream for Breakfast, lunch and Dinner. That’s just not healthy and how do the kids know about this when they never wanted to know about this?
I‘m shocked to be honest.
It is the old story of parents who think they know best for their children but only evolve around their own muddled memories and feelings- the kid was never at school but he says he does not want to go? Who told him what to expect there?
I agree that a walk with kids can be a really good way to teach children geography and biology, however, pointing out that there is the sea and that is the city? What a missed opportunity!!
I am so annoyed by the anti-vax stance. Having grown up in the 1960s and 1970s.....prior to the Mumps and Measles vaccines....I can tell you first hand how devastating even those diseases were to kids back in the day. My parents told stories of classmates dying of Polio and Diptheria back in their day. I've never had to watch any of my children suffer and/or die of these diseases thanks to vaccines. This type of ignorance is borne of the INSANE privilege of never watching your child die of disease. Her children are PROTECTED by the parents of those children who DID get vaccinated...she should be thanking them instead of spouting her conspiracy nonsense. YES, vaccines make people money. But they also have saved millions upon millions of lives.
Also, pharma profits way more of very sick people than one little shot of vaccine... horrible to not protect your kids and at the same time endanger the rest of society as well
Not to mention that they are laws for reasons and the people who enshrined them into law didn't do so just because they wanted to. They did so based off of the advice of medical professionals.
Don't be upset. There are countries where no vaccination is mandatory. In my country there are about 8 mandatory shots until you are 18. In Sweden 0 is mandatory. In the USA it is counted in tens. Advantage?
What I want to say is that your immunity is built by many ways, as well as bad life habbits matter so much that no vax, no pills, nothing from the outside can beat this.
...then you're actually exactly the same age as the anti-vax movement and the top period of anti-authoritarian education. seems like your superhero origin story ^^
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The son doesn't go to school because he "doesn't want to." Literally every child that age doesn't want to go to school. They're teaching their kids to be so entitled to get whatever they want. Life isn't about doing things you want to do.
Why isn't life about doing things you want to do? Shouldn't it be about enjoying and having fun? We only live 70 years if that...
@@kittenspuppiespsychictarot3873 I agree with you to a certain extent. But my point was that I think she's teaching him that he can always do whatever he wants. I do what I want when I can but I'm also an adult. I wasn't always given the choice to do what I want and so i didn't grow up entitled. He has to learn that he can't ALWAYS do what he wants. That's all I'm saying. :)
@@Girlhead yes 👍 agree with that
@Girlhead I believe they are teaching it is okay to only do what you want it is your life, but as long as you also respect others' choice to do what they want. Which doesn't necessarily mean they will grow up entitled. At least not any more than the parent who gives the child everything. Which they aren't they are just allowing them to make decision for their own life.
I am sure as they get older, they will find more motivation in achieving the things they want in life and adjusting as needed. I find I am much more motivated to learn the things I actually want to learn, than anything I was forced to learn. Only time will tell really, though.
Well, I think that some of the elements of this parenting are pretty cool they do also have to learn that there are structure and rules in the real world and that you will be told no by jobs by bosses and there will be boundaries. People do have boundaries and you will have to respect others boundaries you will also have to respect, limitations and rules, and, when you go to the airport or a job or someone else’s home, you have to understand that you just can’t do whatever you want to do. I’m also curious how the parents react if the children would do something that’s not appropriate in public like stealing, do they teach them things that are right and wrong or if they hit another child because they felt like it? There are fundamental things you need to teach children about functioning in a society. They need to understand rules and regulations to some extent and when it’s OK to be free and have their way unsafe as in no touching the stove or not to make certain chemicals together. Learning the hard way sometimes can be deadly.
I am surprised how poor the activities are. Fine, you go walk and end up in a nice place where you see sky and sea? Well, THAT is not learning geography, that would be a learning experience if you would explain the water cycle. Or you walk in the forest, then you stop and look at the leaves and explain types and photosynthesis.The kid has the ipad in bed and not a book around?
By the way, i also practice “children-led learning”… when my kids ask, i answer 😅 or i get them books that address their questions, and we read them together.
I myself am not a fan of formal education but this is insane. All I hear is excuse after excuse after excuse from parents who are just too lazy to provide for the children they brought into the world. If these kids had at least basic education and these parents were footing the bill for kids that they conceived I wouldn't have such a problem with this, but this is insane. These kids are being so let down by their own parents.
I was raised very similarly to them as an unschooler in the USA. I always knew most people disagreed with my family’s choices and adults never failed to remind me of how far estranged I was from the “real world”. This was a good documentary, the journalists’ questions sounded just like many conversations I had as a child.
How have things turned out for you?
Yeah we had a version of this in the 70s with open classrooms, so called holistic learning, Waldorf ideas that may be utopian or worse a spin on separatism perhaps, and what concerns me is the mum's notion of world travel while they are on benefits
@@tundeterez Good and bad, I can never say how much of my experience was anecdotal. Plus I’m barely in my 20s and just starting my career. Things were really good when my home life was stable and my parents were able to focus on me, but just as bad when they weren’t able to do as much. Plus I was an only child. I definitely wouldn’t be who I am today if I hadn’t been unschooled and I don’t mind who I am, except maybe for not having my multiplication tables memorized. My parents weren’t fully antivax, but I do also resent that they didn’t let me get a few of my vaccines (eg HPV), which I had to find out and get myself after 18.
I developed attachment injuries/trauma from my extended family and friends because I childishly interpreted their well meaning concerns as them believing I was stupid and incapable. I became preoccupied with trying to prove I was intelligent to everyone who questioned me and put my parents down growing up. I felt like I had to prove they were good parents.
I independently decided to graduate high school at 16 and I started attending community college, where I graduated with an associates degree at 18. I regret not having routines growing up and I still struggle with consistency (too much and too little), which contributed to how hard I ended up pushing myself. I placed too much importance on prestige when I chose what college I transferred to and I quickly burnt out and was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder. At the moment I’m taking time off full-time school.
It is difficult to adopt a different mindset and stay motivated towards getting a job and becoming independent when I do not have role models to show me how. My parents live a different life from what I want or believe is sustainable for myself, but that’s their choice.
I spent a lot of time in the “unschooling” community as a child and there was a huge diversity of parents who chose the lifestyle (lots of infighting, honestly) and there was also a very wide range of ways that their children responded to the unschooling.
The last truly mainstream representation of unschoolers I saw was yeeaars back on a wife-swap episode. I remember that the family was known in my circles and was pretty controversial. The family they interviewed here seemed closer to the “average unschooler,” from my experience.
@@CatsOfMarrakechI am all for Waldorf if done in a community with opportunities for kids to take part in learning. They use little to no tech in the younger years, follow student interest and focus on the outdoors. I would choose it over the public school for my offspring if there was one in our community. They do not focus on standardized testing, but when kids that have attend Waldorf schools do take the tests they score very high and most of them go on to college.
@@tundeterez my replies to you keep being reported and/or deleted-no idea why. I apologize. To summarize what I’d said: it was a mixed bag, but was actually pretty good when my parents paid full attention and gave me a routine and stability in the house. In my experience, the positive and negative experiences I had with unschooling balance out pretty fairly with those of people who attended traditional schooling, the experiences just look a bit different between the two (ie. no ones experiences are the same, there’s lots of variability).
A child doesn’t know what he doesn’t know, or what he should know, or what what he might need to know 10 years from now….but the parents do!
I appreciate how the dad is equally involved with the kids.
Freaking bum living off the system
"Free Range" chickens, yes. "Free Range" human children, no.
Unless you plan to eat them when they are grown up.
If everyone did like he did, and didn’t work and lived off the system there would be no one paying into the system. There would be no one working the system. Who would work in the hospitals when you did get sick or if you were elderly and needed to be in the hospital. Who would be the policeman to keep everything orderly? How about the people to keep up the roads and airports? It just doesn’t work to think everyone can do this. And this is why he is judged.
These people are in denial
How are they approved to receive benefits? I live in Canada, and here it would be hard to qualify for social assistance as a young, able -bodied man.
@@frederikac.5153 in the US as well, and probably the UK. So there must be a reason.
My 8 year old excels at reading writing math, we read books far above her grade level. Loves learning through exploring and enjoys her friendships at school. But guess what? There are days she doesn’t WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL. It’s called being a child. However I know her having the basis of being literate and knowing how to add, subtract and multiply will set her up for future success.
I don't understand why kids can't have both. As a child, I woke up for school daily and played in the woods for hours after. Basic academia is necessary to make it in todays society, you cannot leave it out.
My child was in school and could barely read or write until he was a 5th grader. Interest in reading is developmental! Emerging at different times for each person, and there are even individuals who teach themselves to read.
I agree. Waldorf education states that boys typically learn to read later than girls and not to force it, it will cause more damage. I think people forget this and blame homeschooling, when In reality, all children are different and learn to read and write at different ages.
My daughter is 9 and in 3rd grade and can barely read, she is a normal kid but has no interest in reading for some reason, and the public school has failed to teach her to read
I know many families who school the way these folks do, and their kids still grow up to be engineers and nurses, etc.
True for so many who become successful adults and go to college and have careers, especially for boys.
@@Angelbach1995- You actually know families where there was no home schooling done & instead, were unschooled w/ nothing formalized at all about reading, writing, math, science, history, which can be taught in a play like manner using creative tools, but that’s still a type of schooling. I can’t believe that a kid who grows up like this, with no formalized schooling out or inside the home, ends up able to be an engineer.
Good documentary, nice to sit in discomfort and examine how differences in the norm are stressful to perceive.
Of course he's a yoga instructor 😂
Lol..right? What a cliche.
What’s wrong with yoga? It’s been practiced for thousands of years.
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school I don't think they are saying anything is wrong with yoga itself. They are just saying it fits what they would think he would do for a job.
Right?! when he came on with that hairstyle I just knew, but him saying he fasts just solidified it 😂 come to find out he actually is a yoga teacher.
As someone who was honeschooled, my heart breaks for what these children will endure should they ever attempt to work, start their education, or be a part of society. I was isolated less than they are, and still struggled to get my GED at 25. I am in university now, but all the kids who went to regular schools have a much easier time. I am driven to succeed, but that means very little when I have to start from zero and the other students don’t.
I give you props for sticking with your education and putting in the work to get your GED. I know it had to be very discouraging being so much older. Great job!
That's only because your parents failed you. Most homeschool kids are statistically better off than they're counterparts. I'm sorry your education wasn't valued more.
Yeah truly. I was homeschooled too
Homeschooling in most cases I’ve seen has been very beneficial. I know so many young adults in college who were entirely homeschooled
@@bigmomma3265 You're a mom, not a child who was homeschooled. They're not necessarily happy just because you think they are. I frankly think 80% of homeschooling parents straight up belong in jail.
These are the people the government needs to take away their help.
It is nice this family shared their life style.