How Can We Make Cycling Greener? | GCN Show Ep.398

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  • Cycling is a pretty environmentally friendly activity, right? One fewer car on the road, reducing carbon emissions and saving the planet! But when you dig a little deeper, it becomes apparent that riding bikes isn't all that green! Bar and gel wrappers chucked on the roadside, punctured inner tubes sent straight to landfill, and don't even get us started on the convoy of cars surrounding a bike race! In this week's GCN show, Manon and Dan ask what we can do to make the sport more green?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 859

  • @gcn
    @gcn  4 роки тому +15

    What would you change about cycling to make it more environmentally friendly?

    • @mosesbuddhajesus3362
      @mosesbuddhajesus3362 4 роки тому

      First here. ha!!!

    • @PoliticusRex632
      @PoliticusRex632 4 роки тому +41

      Make all of the vehicles in the following caravan electric

    • @riggermortisfpv526
      @riggermortisfpv526 4 роки тому +24

      Manufacturing processes (The real source of bulk pollution) need to be examined, waste needs to be eliminated and new cleaner tech needs to be adopted in all of the manufacturing processes. The end user's impact is negligible by comparison.

    • @gcullen5331
      @gcullen5331 4 роки тому +16

      Reusable gel bags. Even if gels are thrown away properly in the bin they are still thrown away to a landfill. It would be great if companies made a reusable container to refill gels from, rather than single use.

    • @lucien_ssc6798
      @lucien_ssc6798 4 роки тому +27

      E bike batteries are extremely toxic for the environment once used, so go on a normal bike and just do rides within your natural capabilities.

  • @cup_and_cone
    @cup_and_cone 4 роки тому +221

    The single biggest way to make cycling greener is for the whole industry to change this mentality that we must have the latest and greatest technology - a new bike every year, different types of bikes, N+1, plethora of accessories, etc... But the industry isn't ready for that conversation, and I suspect GCN, who relies and promotes big business regularly, isn't either.

    • @maxrevell3830
      @maxrevell3830 4 роки тому +13

      N+1 is ok if you're keeping and using all the bikes. The material is a factor too; carbon isn't recyclable whereas aluminium is.

    • @DamianJames
      @DamianJames 4 роки тому +4

      throw out your rim brake wheels because we're not making rim brake bikes anymore!!!!

    • @davidf2281
      @davidf2281 4 роки тому +15

      This. Absolutely this. At least when GMBN addressed the same topic recently, Neil Donaghue admitted to a touch of hypocrisy. Not to mention it _at all_ is pretty lame, IMO. The number of water bottles / wrappers used by the pros is similar to the fuel consumed by Formula 1: utterly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. The stuff that makes the difference is the stuff the masses (ie, us) do or don't do.

    • @nixo139
      @nixo139 4 роки тому +7

      The problem in the first place is that the production of bikes should be green and it will also be greener if bikes get recycled better

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone 4 роки тому +9

      @@nixo139 As @davidf2281 alludes too, it's all about big picture. In the same way David mentions pro water bottles being a drop in the bucket, we as avid cyclists with higher end bikes are still only a small percentage of the bike industry as a whole. The overwhelming majority of bikes sold are low-end bikes through mass retailers to non-enthusiasts. In the Western world, most of those low-end bikes have a shelf life of just a few years; they get used only a few times, sit in the corner of a garage or shed, then end up in a landfill. Even in rare cases where they are used on a regular basis, on going maintenance on those cheaper bikes will exceed the original price of the bike altogether! Economies of scale manufacturing has gotten to a point where it is cheaper to buy an entirely new cheap bike from a mass retailer than the replace the drivetrain of that cheap bike when it wears out... We as an industry have to change the value proposition at every single level, from low-end bikes to high-end bikes. Until we can truly manufacture green bikes, we have to make low-end bikes that are built to last for the majority, and we have to stop lying to owners of high-end bikes that their bike isn't obsolete.

  • @Leeloo.says.Multipass
    @Leeloo.says.Multipass 4 роки тому +140

    Answer: stop marketing to people to upgrade every 10 seconds

  • @scottpardy990
    @scottpardy990 4 роки тому +113

    For everybody not at the absolute top end of cycling, just eat a banana. Their wrappers are 100% biodegradable

    • @woutervanr
      @woutervanr 4 роки тому +10

      If I recall correctly though, banana peels take years to decompose as opposed to an apple which takes just weeks. So don't throw them in the bushes either.

    • @wvmikep
      @wvmikep 4 роки тому +4

      @@woutervanr That depends on the humidity of the environment. In arid areas, banana peels surely do linger. In areas with more humidity, like mine, they don't last long.

    • @woutervanr
      @woutervanr 4 роки тому

      @@wvmikep Well yes, ofcourse the environment matters. Lets be honest though, if the max time is a few years, you aren't going to do much better than maybe 8 months. That's still pretty long. Too long to just say "sure, throw them wherever you want".

    • @scottpardy990
      @scottpardy990 4 роки тому +3

      @@woutervanr definitely did not mean to imply that people have carte blanche to litter just because it's a banana peel. Put it in your pocket, bring it home, compost it.

    • @woutervanr
      @woutervanr 4 роки тому +1

      @@scottpardy990 Agreed. Way better than whatever wrapper you make, even if it's biodegradable (it still had to be manufactured).

  • @shapeshifterboogie9853
    @shapeshifterboogie9853 4 роки тому +68

    Carbon fibre, a environmental headache of the future. We need Ollie to come up with that celery based carbon he spoke about!

    • @howarddavies136
      @howarddavies136 4 роки тому +5

      I'm waiting for the day when epoxy eating bacteria are engineered to enable carbon fibre to be digested. And then the day after when the bacteria are leaked and everyone's bike rots!
      You are right though, carbon is terrible for the environment.

    • @chrisprice6206
      @chrisprice6206 4 роки тому

      the epoxy they use breaks down in soil over time and the filaments left would break down as well. the production of carbon fiber and assembly probably uses less energy than forging metal too.

    • @chrisprice6206
      @chrisprice6206 4 роки тому

      @@howarddavies136 they exist source:ive seen fiberglass decompose in soil many times, also plastic grocercy bags too, thiner the better(not like California's thicker bags)

    • @unconventionalideas5683
      @unconventionalideas5683 Рік тому +1

      @@chrisprice6206Plastic is not biodegradable. It breaks down to microscopic particles in IV radiation from the sun.

  • @Zeben84
    @Zeben84 4 роки тому +28

    Décathlon do a reusable gel "bottle"
    You don't need any cycling specific nutrition tho, you can do everything yoursel (bars, sirup and salt in your bidon, sandwiches and many more), it's cheaper and better for your health !

    • @rfldss89
      @rfldss89 4 роки тому +4

      Exactly. I just put a little bit of syrup for energy and bicarb for electrolytes in my water and it's done me well so far. You don't need individually wrapped doses of sugar gel to have a nice ride.

  • @stephenmacklin4556
    @stephenmacklin4556 4 роки тому +61

    They went through an entire segment on waste in cycling and never mentioned CO2 cartridges.

    • @allanfoster6965
      @allanfoster6965 4 роки тому +2

      I get fed up seeing them scattered in the gutters and verges. What is wrong with a pump?

    • @slwsnowman4038
      @slwsnowman4038 4 роки тому +1

      There are places that recycle and reuse them. I bought some new and there was already a few scratches on one of them.

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. 4 роки тому +3

      Slw Snowman40 Totally agree Stephen. I hate CO2 cartridges - used by the same people who don’t think it’s ok to have a pump mounted to the frame 🤦‍♂️ Regardless of whether they can be reused or recycled, we should be reducing first. Any re-use just costs more energy.

    • @onnomeeuwis4001
      @onnomeeuwis4001 4 роки тому +2

      CO2 cartridges take CO2 from the air, so it is only temporarily stored. The thing that is wasted, is the cartridge itself (if it is not reused)

    • @allanfoster6965
      @allanfoster6965 4 роки тому +2

      @@onnomeeuwis4001 Most commercial Co2 is made as a by-product of chemical companies making Ammonia. Gathering it from the air is very costly in comparison.

  • @charliethedog7579
    @charliethedog7579 4 роки тому +105

    Maybe certain people should stop throwing their gel and bar wrappers on the ground and TAKE THEM HOME...

    • @ukestjohn
      @ukestjohn 4 роки тому +7

      Agreed. I mean what are the pockets on your jersey for. Reminds me of cigarette butts in the old days.
      And beer cans on hiking trails. It was light enough to carry when full, but too heavy when empty.

    • @Millicente
      @Millicente 4 роки тому

      That's not laziness, that's weight reduction!

    • @terryballard8551
      @terryballard8551 4 роки тому +8

      Triathletes get disqualified if they litter during a race.

    • @OFFSHOREDOUG
      @OFFSHOREDOUG 4 роки тому +4

      Total pet hate of mine. So lazy and disrespectful.

    • @miomafia93
      @miomafia93 4 роки тому +1

      I feel like I've seen more of these in the last week than ever before. :/

  • @KOMHuntTV
    @KOMHuntTV 4 роки тому +26

    3 TAKES!? We need to see these, Please. What a Pro! 24:54

  • @bikebrain
    @bikebrain 4 роки тому +9

    Congratulations to Manon and Hank. I'm very happy for you.

  • @lookinforanick
    @lookinforanick 4 роки тому +27

    In triathlon, at least here in Germany, littering during the race would get you disqualified. Not sure how stringently the rule is applied, but it's there, at least as a deterrent. See no reason why the same wouldn't hold true in pro cycling.

    • @odyseusjarhead602
      @odyseusjarhead602 4 роки тому

      In USAT races in the US, you won't get DQ'ed, but you will get a hefty time penalty.

    • @johnheavner7947
      @johnheavner7947 4 роки тому

      How about passing gas? Does that get you disqualified in Deutschland?

    • @RevoltingRudi
      @RevoltingRudi 4 роки тому

      @@johnheavner7947 what do you mean exactly? what kind of gas?

    • @lookinforanick
      @lookinforanick 4 роки тому

      @@johnheavner7947 I suppose your farts contain copious amounts of sarin :P

    • @quirkyalba6670
      @quirkyalba6670 4 роки тому

      CAPTION: ...and he though he was a shoe IN-EOS for the win

  • @erezra
    @erezra 4 роки тому +46

    Bike packing suggestion for Mannon: ride to Spain to a training camp location

    • @CoderShare
      @CoderShare 4 роки тому

      Yeah it wouldn't take months. Maybe a week and a half.

    • @stajp67
      @stajp67 4 роки тому +4

      She did say she's bad at math. So lets do the math for her (distances, height difference and estimated time courtesy of Kamoot):
      Bath - Poole is 60 miles, 3100ft, let's say 4 hours. The ferry to Cherbourg is 4:30 hours. 75 miles to Avranches, 4500ft, another 5 hours. And that's day 1.
      Day 2 Avranches - Nantes, 115 miles, 4400 ft, 7 hours.
      Day 3 Nantes - Royan, 130 miles, 2700ft of height difference, 8 hours.
      Day 4 Royan - Bordeaux, 75 miles, 1100ft, 4 hours. Easy day to recover.
      Day 5 Bordeaux - Biarritz, 122 miles, 2000ft, 7 hours
      Day 6 Biarritz - Bilbao, Spain, 100miles, 9000ft!!!, 7 hours.
      And from there to anywhere in Spain is less than 700 miles, so it's less than a week.
      Manon, you can do it! In less than two weeks! Why would only Si enjoy bikepacking?
      #bikepackingwithManon - do it GCN (when Covid19 allows it)!

    • @ridefree4076
      @ridefree4076 4 роки тому

      @@stajp67 It would be a nice ride, but doesn't have to take so long! Instead of taking the ferry to Cherbourg, take it overnight to Bilbao. There, saved you 5.5 days!

    • @stajp67
      @stajp67 4 роки тому

      @@ridefree4076 If we're going that route, Manon can fly to Bilbao. There, saved her another 25 hours (I checked, ferry Poole - Bilbao is 29 hours, and there is 2 hour EasyJet direct flight from Bristol to Bilbao).
      The idea is to correct Manons wrong math (she said it would take her months to get to Spain while it's only a week to get to the border, and another to get anywhere in Spain), and that she wants to go for a bikepacking trip...

  • @benwoodland5786
    @benwoodland5786 4 роки тому +16

    Petition to have extreme corner back!

  • @AndrewFearn42
    @AndrewFearn42 4 роки тому +10

    I am smelling a forthcoming Manon bikepacking through Wales video.

  • @NickMaovich
    @NickMaovich 4 роки тому +14

    I like this Lloyd family
    Father and daughter, enjoying cycling and hosting the show together, you can definitely see they are relatives and are similar
    :P

    • @raul0ca
      @raul0ca 4 роки тому +1

      The family that races together goes places together

    • @manuel7102
      @manuel7102 4 роки тому +1

      @theonlytruefalcon That's what they want you to think...

    • @123moof
      @123moof 4 роки тому +1

      @theonlytruefalcon Funny, he looks plenty old enough to me. His pro days must have aged him quite a bit...

    • @chuckmccracken4136
      @chuckmccracken4136 4 роки тому

      Like, you do realize that they only thing they share is the last name right?

  • @Velobetty
    @Velobetty 4 роки тому +4

    Great to see Manon on the show this week; she's a great presenter!

  • @SC-kq7yj
    @SC-kq7yj 4 роки тому +7

    I got a few questions about the "Sustainablity", also seriously putting as the next point the training camp on Mallorca where you definitely can't cycle to?
    1. What kind of biodegradable is your bottle? It is not all the same and by no means says you can put it in your compost int he backyard!
    2. The tubing, there are more than one creative company out there reusing them for backpacks and purses and co, actually really nice accessory for a cyclist!
    3. What is about the jerseys? I tried to find a sustainable fair cycling shirts for more than a day and then just gave up. Where are their produced? How are they produced? Can you make them from recycling material? Non of the big companies really tell you, you are no exception to that rule, not even for the t-shirts you get information how they are produced.
    and lastly since you were so upset about the parking slot thing with the cafe, that is the stupid rule in Germany as well, all new builds need sufficient parking spaces when you are public. Stupid, but rolling your eyes will not help! I was actually disappointed, I expected way better info from the title.

  • @bleskiven
    @bleskiven 4 роки тому +8

    I think the self-deprecation of Dan has come too far now.
    Dan is one of the best cycling commentators and in my top 7 GCN presenters.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  4 роки тому

      Hahaha. He loves it, really!

  • @zyghom
    @zyghom 4 роки тому +24

    Manon has changed INCREDIBLY - she is profi presenter now - seriously I am happy for her performance ;-)

    • @cannywf1
      @cannywf1 4 роки тому

      She’s got an Adams Apple! Is that normal?

    • @deezname6417
      @deezname6417 4 роки тому

      @@cannywf1 uncommon, but it is normal. But that's just her larynx.

  • @damienmitchell7686
    @damienmitchell7686 4 роки тому +31

    CAPTION: Hey Owain, I think there's something INEO Shoe....

  • @mosesbuddhajesus3362
    @mosesbuddhajesus3362 4 роки тому +7

    How can we make cycling greener? By Re-Cycling! Badum tssss...

  • @beepbop9
    @beepbop9 4 роки тому +3

    started to make my own energy gels. using the same method as adam Hansen for storage. Maltodextrin powder, water, natural flavouring and the xanthan gum to get the gel consistency preference. Best part is it only costs 10p per serving and no wrappers! (22g carbs)

  • @lancejonson9357
    @lancejonson9357 4 роки тому +4

    I find it somewhat amazing that this segment entirely missed the point. One of my favorite quotes about cycling (and I unfortunately don't remember it exactly, or who said it) was to the effect, 'people think of cycling as a "green" sport, until they see a race with 3 helicopters, 50 cars, and 20 motorbikes following a group of skinny little climbers up a mountain pass.' Cycling as a sport has about the same carbon impact as formula 1, which I don't think anyone would put into the "ECO" category.
    Even at the level of a "committed" amateur, the sport has a significant carbon impact. Consider that each single kilogram of carbon fibre puts roughly 30kg of greenhouse emissions into the atmosphere; that almost every cycling product is made from extracted, non-renewable materials; and that end-of life solutions for most bicycle products is to land-fill them, and you would be hard-pressed to convince anyone that cycling is a "green" sport.
    E-bikes and all of the connected trainers, power units, etc. are also taking products which at one time did not require electricity and turning them into energy drains on an already over-utilised power grid. Every time your GPS pings, every internet-connected training session on a wahoo trainer, every segment stored in the ethers on Strava is generating carbon emissions.
    Cycling - in terms of commuting - is a great alternative to driving, and much more eco. But there are also critical differences in the mindset among most commuters - they are not constantly buying the latest and greatest for their commuting, they are repurposing, second-life-ing, and riding things until they have absolutely zero service life left in many instances. Typically the focus is on what is essential.
    As cyclists, we have a vested interest in the environment and in arresting the effects of climate change as rapidly as possible. We will hit +2° from pre-industrial levels by the end of the decade at current consumption rates. The chain of events that come along with this are simply horrifying, and quite truly detrimental to the sport we love. We need to look at real change - in materials, in sourcing, in manufacturing processes, in transportation, in obsolescence/upgrading, in PRIORITIES.
    We have developed a warped sense of accomplishment where we go out and buy a new pair of wheels, take 20 seconds off our Strava segment PR, and think we have gotten faster. The bike got faster, you, as a cyclist, are exactly the same.

    • @blake-gl4wn
      @blake-gl4wn 3 роки тому

      Lol. That last paragraph 😂

  • @marcuspartridge11
    @marcuspartridge11 4 роки тому +15

    Caption Comp: "It's raining cats and Dogmas!"

  • @dmallo
    @dmallo 4 роки тому +3

    I use a soft-flask (GU energy flask) and buy gels in bulk (15 serving pack) to reduce my environmental impact as much as possible. Sadly, a lot of flavors are not available in this format. I think eating a banana instead of a gel for shorter rides is also a less impactful alternative.

  • @DavidvdGulik
    @DavidvdGulik 4 роки тому +3

    Don't worry Manon, you can come bikepacking in The Netherlands. 0 climbing save for the occasional bridge

  • @RustyWalker
    @RustyWalker 4 роки тому +15

    "Another obvious one is rappers."
    Yeah. It's their mics. Pretty sure they don't biodegrade.
    "Ther's nothing worse than seeing leftover rappers on the side of the road in the beautiful countryside."
    I don't know. I think EDM producers are in contention there.
    Oh, I'm sorry. I was thinking of something else.

    • @philippegendron1987
      @philippegendron1987 4 роки тому

      They should really stop that drop the mic thing and take it home!

  • @secretbrad9259
    @secretbrad9259 4 роки тому +12

    Much as I love the Lloyd family presenters I just wondering where Si is? Is he ok?

  • @thomasromain6486
    @thomasromain6486 4 роки тому +3

    Bike packing ideas: Munich to Venice! Crossing the alps through Austria + Switzerland :) :)

  • @johnmurray4562
    @johnmurray4562 4 роки тому +1

    Green ideas - homemade gel in a reusable squeezy honey bottle -easy to make - lasts for ages - fits perfectly in your back pocket and home-made bars wrapped in coil of grease proof paper folded at one end and coiled round to the other end then twisted at the top - easy to open, no gnawing at impenetrable plastic and biodegradable.

  • @WaveReady-h6s
    @WaveReady-h6s 4 роки тому

    I like the vibes Manon and Dan created here. She is more natural, and genuine, and Dan poses as cool uncle. More of the shows with this duo, please :)

  • @domstaaFFC
    @domstaaFFC 4 роки тому +15

    Caption: Owain Shoes: "and before you ask, no I don't"
    (Say it in a Welsh accent)

    • @Nicka2003
      @Nicka2003 4 роки тому +1

      This comment just won the internet 😂

  • @DJJPlus4
    @DJJPlus4 4 роки тому +10

    CAPTION: "INEOS is no longer a shoe-in to win the race"

  • @anthonygittins506
    @anthonygittins506 4 роки тому +12

    What's happened to extreme corner? Missing it 😭

  • @AlejandroMallea
    @AlejandroMallea 4 роки тому +3

    Manon's expressions after Dan throws that caption are absolutely priceless.

  • @stevenbroers9730
    @stevenbroers9730 4 роки тому +3

    Everyone who's caught throwing away a wrapper during a sportive: 2 years suspension. No mercy.

  • @MrFreeGman
    @MrFreeGman 4 роки тому +3

    By far the biggest thing you could do is ban carbon fiber bikes. They pollute the environment like crazy to produce and they can't be recycled or repurposed. They'll all end up sitting in landfills for the next 10,000 years.

  • @robertfarnsworth3706
    @robertfarnsworth3706 4 роки тому +5

    I could go on forever here. But firstly throwing a tube after one single puncture...🤬 As an 80s youth, my tubes used to have ten patches before being chucked. With decent tyres, I only very rarely puncture these days but still keep tubes to five patches. But mainly, the industry should be making things that last.....I feel that my nine speed stuff from twenty years ago was way more durable than the 11/12 speed stuff now. However, I had to move on because Campag' nine speed stuff was getting virtually impossible to find. Finally, I always recommend to people to buy a decent secondhand bike rather than a cheap new one. Oh yes, don't do carbon, not very green. AND just now I get an email saying 'upgrade your bike!' No, I won't.

  • @sudduthjonathan
    @sudduthjonathan 4 роки тому +1

    A reusable gel pouch is a must have if you race, do any long group rides, or just plain don’t want to stop to tear open a gel packet to eat it.
    I prepare my small pouch ahead of time with two gels plus a little water so it all comes out. No stopping, mess, no hassle, no wrecks in a bunch of riders because you’re trying to open a package.

  • @smithpauld1501
    @smithpauld1501 4 роки тому +1

    Hammer Gel in the bottle, eaten from a smaller squeeze bottle. I believe some other companies at least used to offer the same.

  • @richardyamin226
    @richardyamin226 4 роки тому +1

    Hammer Nutrition has gel in 858 gram bottles that you then use in a 5 use smaller refillable bottle. No gel wrapper to fill up landfills

  • @Arthurbarau
    @Arthurbarau 4 роки тому +1

    On the aspects of the sport that are not very good for the environment, you could have mentioned: carbon fiber and our urge to buy parts, accessories and new bikes all the time.

  • @treinar01
    @treinar01 4 роки тому +7

    Dan: "Shorts and short sleeves in Norway, not something that happens particularly often up there". Fact: Since my first ride with shorts and short sleeves on May 26th, I've had 70 bike rides, with 90% of them wearing said type of clothing - and not freezing the slightest, mind you. I dare you soaking wet Brits to beat that statistic! Welcome to Norway :-)

    • @idaf5244
      @idaf5244 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I've been wearing all short/short since April and only had to bring out the long sleeves this past week, htfu Lloyd :D

    • @johnandrews3568
      @johnandrews3568 4 роки тому +1

      Don't get mad at Lloydy... just sit with a smug look on your face when GCN makes another UK-based, 'how to dress for winter cycling' video and then laugh out loud at their lack of applying rule #5.

  • @declanfaughey8471
    @declanfaughey8471 4 роки тому +17

    Caption: anyone know a good cobbler on the cobbles.

  • @hedleykerr3564
    @hedleykerr3564 4 роки тому +3

    My Idea would be with indoor training! Use conversion trainers so all that power gets turned into power(electricity)! You could even get Hank to ride it and power a GCN show!

  • @seniorcycling5352
    @seniorcycling5352 4 роки тому +7

    Caption: Ineos , the team of marginal rains

  • @axmoran
    @axmoran 4 роки тому +1

    Hammer Gel sells in bulk with a flask, so you can easily recycle the big bottle when done

  • @donaldrieger381
    @donaldrieger381 4 роки тому +11

    Caption: "I've got wet wet wet wet cycling shoes!"

  • @clintnieves
    @clintnieves 4 роки тому +5

    Loving the the Lloyd combo hosting

  • @rnghwdbcs
    @rnghwdbcs 4 роки тому

    Manon's laugh at 23:46 is so honest we don't have any other option than to vote for Dan's caption this week

  • @jacksquat2067
    @jacksquat2067 4 роки тому +1

    Hammer Nutrition sells a little squeeze bottle for gel that holds 5-6 servings. Also helps keep your pocket from getting messy. 👍

  • @PistolPeteLee
    @PistolPeteLee 4 роки тому +2

    At the risk of an unpopular opinion, I never saw the point in podium or pit girls in any motor sport. I always thought it was completely pointless.

  • @gordon415
    @gordon415 4 роки тому +1

    Old inner tubes are being re used when staking new street trees planted in San Francisco. So not only are they avoiding the landfill for a few more years, but they're also contributing positively to the environment by growing the urban forest. 🌲 🌳

  • @aaronspivak8197
    @aaronspivak8197 4 роки тому +7

    Caption Competition: No, Owain; this does not make you the raining champion.

  • @renepauls556
    @renepauls556 4 роки тому

    I agree to a lot of the criticism about bottles and wrappers being one of the lesser important factors in env. pollution. BUT credit where credit is due: GCNs maintenance videos are what motivated and educated me to reuse and recycle lovely old bikes and view them as an alternative for cars.

  • @BlueL1n3
    @BlueL1n3 4 роки тому +1

    You don't necessarily have to squeeze out individual gels to fill a gel flasks, some manufactures like Hammer sell 26 serving bottles for those like Hanson who prefer to use a flask. I'm guessing pretty much all the brands of gels might also offer larger quantity bottles like Hammer does for this reason, and if they dont, they should.

  • @michaelgruber2295
    @michaelgruber2295 4 роки тому +4

    Greener- What about helmets? I'm not sure what can be done with them after their effective life is over; i.e. I usually replace mine, on average, after 5 years (exposure to UV/weather/sweat...etc) or on 2 occasions crashing and cracking them. Recyclable materials?

    • @blake-gl4wn
      @blake-gl4wn 3 роки тому

      Part of the problem is all the different materials (foam, shell, straps) making them hard to recycle. Helmet technology (ie the foam) is the same as 30 yrs ago - which needs replaced too frequently. Means bike companies sell more helmets. I think bike companies must be run by right arseholes - they do nothing to make their sustainable products.

  • @catherinespark
    @catherinespark 4 роки тому +10

    #captioncontest: Rain, Rain, go Owain! Hope it falls on team Bahrain!

    • @LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1
      @LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 4 роки тому +2

      You win

    • @catherinespark
      @catherinespark 4 роки тому +1

      @@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 Ha ha, thanks! Because of this reply I shall feel like a winner whether I win or not! :D

    • @chuckmccracken4136
      @chuckmccracken4136 4 роки тому +1

      Very cute and clever. You might just have it. :-)

    • @catherinespark
      @catherinespark 4 роки тому

      @@chuckmccracken4136 Thank you! Very kind of you. I doubt I have it as I think the 'ineoshoe' one is probably on course to top it, but this makes me feel happy! :D

  • @cregenbrady4390
    @cregenbrady4390 4 роки тому +2

    Caption: Team Jumbo Visma is really knockin the Shoes off of INEOS this year

    • @gcn
      @gcn  4 роки тому

      Ahahaha!

  • @Happy_Biker
    @Happy_Biker 4 роки тому +3

    Manon wearing a ring! 😥💔
    Awww, happy for her anyway! 😍

  • @ditto365
    @ditto365 4 роки тому +1

    I use Hammer gels and buy bulk bottles and a refillable flask that fit into pocket easily. Flask holds 5 gels

  • @schmo9425
    @schmo9425 4 роки тому +1

    Cycling is greener than my lawn.

  • @WilliamCannonWarren
    @WilliamCannonWarren 4 роки тому +1

    It would be interesting if there were rules on number of bikes/wheels/parts allowed over the course of a season, like F1. This would put emphasis on durability and repairability of bikes, while offering an extra dimension of strategy. Hopefully this could inspire average cyclist to buy more sustainable bikes as well.

  • @andrewwilkerson9758
    @andrewwilkerson9758 4 роки тому +3

    the tennis ball hack might be my favorite ever on gcn!!!

    • @ferory240
      @ferory240 4 роки тому

      Been using it for over 2 weeks now, works better than i imagined.

  • @lusoplayer
    @lusoplayer 4 роки тому +2

    Bidons are biodegradale in very specific conditions (composting). not when thrown way to the middle of the field...

  • @owenchase4017
    @owenchase4017 4 роки тому

    I use old inner tubes to: 1. wrap the handlebars on old bikes that I fix up and sell. 2. To wrap the top frame tubes to protect the paint. and 3. To wrap the drive side chain stay, again to protect the paint.

  • @CRBenham20
    @CRBenham20 4 роки тому +5

    i would love to continue to support GCN race pass with a subscription, but due to the lack of literally every major race being geo-blocked in the US i will be canceling my subscription. its is very frustrating to open the app, see every stage of the tour is going to broad cast live, and not be able to watch any of it. Especially whenever i am paying the same price as someone in EU who can watch all of the major races... and considering the content is still not available on the GCN website and there appears to still be no chromecast compatibility, its not worth the subscription anymore.

  • @tabishop3
    @tabishop3 4 роки тому +3

    Caption: It's better to be pouring rain, than hailing team cars.

  • @stephenchu1115
    @stephenchu1115 4 роки тому

    I've been watching GCN since 2015 and love the channel. However, I must admit that I have never watched a GCN show episode or tech episode in it's entirety. I just skip to the good parts to save time so i can ride more. Now because Manon is presenting, I've watched 3 GCN episodes in it's entirety!! Her expressions, insight and humor are priceless. Manon has a big future in broadcasting and presenting. I think the bbc and Amazon will come calling soon. So lets enjoy Manon at GCN while she is still here.

  • @odmineypiju4761
    @odmineypiju4761 4 роки тому +5

    I always repair my inner tubes because they are a huge piece of waste to throw away. I discard an inner tube when there are more than 6 patches on it, but instead of throwing it away, I cut it up into hundreds of hair ties. They break more easily than the ones specifically made for the purpose, but one tube makes a big enough batch of black minimalistic hair ties to last for 2 or 3 years. Considering that it takes me more than 2 years to puncture 6 times (heavy anti-puncture tires), I have never thrown away an inner tube! And I never buy hair ties. This is the perfect formula for you long-haired cyclists out there

  • @hisdadjames4876
    @hisdadjames4876 4 роки тому +6

    Caption: He’s a shoo-in to be raining champion!

    • @quirkyalba6670
      @quirkyalba6670 4 роки тому

      CAPTION: #Now that it's raining more than ever
      Know that we'll still have each other
      You can stand near my Pinarello
      You can stand near my Pinarello, ello, ello, eh, eh, eh...

  • @adamwillmot9362
    @adamwillmot9362 4 роки тому +5

    CAPTION: I shoe’d think cycling in this weather requires some real sole searching.........#captioncompetition

  • @carl_the_newt7883
    @carl_the_newt7883 4 роки тому

    A couple of things that did not get mentioned: Bike parts that are designed to be disposable after wearing out (chains, cranks, cassettes) that can and should be recycled, cheap bikes that get ridden a few times and then rust away.

  • @fitnessbikesnet2712
    @fitnessbikesnet2712 4 роки тому

    Bikepacking Adventure with Manon and Hank: Absolutly genius! ;D

  • @danielh7330
    @danielh7330 4 роки тому +1

    What about cleaning? Using biodegradable soap, or environmental friendly chainlube? And we cyclist use so much functional clothing, which isn't very green either..

    • @gcn
      @gcn  4 роки тому

      Definitely something to be mindful of!

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S 4 роки тому +2

    Dan repairs his inner tubes so he has more beer money.

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 4 роки тому

    I suppose the ultimate green cyclist is a commuter on a refurbished steel bike, with a couple of old bottles in the cages and bagged homemade snacks in panniers purchased at a flea market. And a lot of us know that's a mighty fine way to roll.

  • @joepiol5105
    @joepiol5105 4 роки тому

    A used inner tube can be sliced and used as handlebar wrapping. It may not be the most comfortable or long lasting, but it is easy to grip.

  • @barnabywoods5403
    @barnabywoods5403 4 роки тому +1

    Caption:
    GCN: "An exciting days racing in the Tour de Wallonie. If you missed it you can catch up on GCN race pass link in the description down bellow. The race had a fair bit of rain, as demonstrated by this photo here of Owain Doull. Shoe fiascos like this display the importance of the humble overshoe and here at GCN we have you covered, with the new GCN Castelli Slicker Pull-On Overshoes, available at the GCN shop link also in the description"
    Me: "seemless plugging"

    • @gcn
      @gcn  4 роки тому

      Hahahahaha!

  • @AleBrex
    @AleBrex 4 роки тому

    2:20 the expression on Manon's face when Dan announces he will be hosting "The Breakaway" is one of PURE CONFIDENCE!

  • @woutervanr
    @woutervanr 4 роки тому

    Like you said, just take your punctured tubes to a bikshop for recycling. Unlike the bottles and other plastics or wrappers, tubes can easily be reused and rubber is a renewable resource.

  • @trbeyond
    @trbeyond 4 роки тому +1

    It’d be great if the tyre companies allowed folks to send back the old tires and tubes to be recycled

    • @ferory240
      @ferory240 4 роки тому

      Best idea yet, but tires cant be recycled, only repurposed to something else. It would be like uncooking a chocolate chip cookie.

    • @trbeyond
      @trbeyond 4 роки тому +1

      Yes! Just like we do with car tyres!

  • @unairamos74
    @unairamos74 4 роки тому +1

    Reduce, Recyle, Reuse, Repair, 4 Rs to make cycling greener. In my case I buy nearly everything I need second hand (in good condition) in order to avoid unneeded production of new stuff I don't really need.

  • @tmurphydot5
    @tmurphydot5 4 роки тому +1

    Our bike shop will take old tubes to recycle.

  • @TarunKalathil
    @TarunKalathil 4 роки тому

    Does it happen to anyone else that they watch these GCN videos and during the entire video you are hoping that you get one of those cool goodies? Man, I have a new hobby of day dreaming about winning a new bike or these goodies. I got so excited about it that I got myself a new roadbike (entry level) just so that I can put those imaginary goodies to use. And thanks to GCN now I'm totally invested in cycling and I guess that's one way in which I'm contributing to being environment friendly. So ya, influencing others through digital content is a good change every other rider can make to help environment.

  • @Fixingeverthingwithaengine567
    @Fixingeverthingwithaengine567 4 роки тому +1

    Talk about ironic. A bike shop cafe can't open because of car parking. Isn't it about keeping fit and less cars?

  • @jamesportoraro8248
    @jamesportoraro8248 4 роки тому

    Come over and do a bikepacking in Canada Manon! The sport is only growing there and it's absolutely picturesque

  • @carloaustria2329
    @carloaustria2329 4 роки тому

    In the Philippines we usually use inner tubes as a bungee cords to rubber bands up to the point of quick repair to leaking pipes. We never throw them away.

  • @quirkyalba6670
    @quirkyalba6670 4 роки тому +1

    CAPTION: #Now that it's raining more than ever
    Know that we'll still have each other
    You can stand near my Pinarello
    You can stand near my Pinarello, ello, ello, eh, eh, eh...

    • @chuckmccracken4136
      @chuckmccracken4136 4 роки тому

      Guess it helps if you're hip enough to not have to click the link to figure it out. |-/

  • @jessetej
    @jessetej 4 роки тому +1

    It's pretty awesome that you all featured the Black Cycling Network at the beginning of the episode. I follow them on instagram and they do great things! I think it'd be even better if you all made a video about how we can make cycling more diverse. It could start by hiring a person of color to join the GCN team in an on screen role! You are one of the most followed cycling channels on youtube (if not the most), it'd be a huge a statement a step in the right direction.

  • @nsd1169
    @nsd1169 4 роки тому

    1) use dynamo for lights
    2) supply chains - build / manufacture [whenever possible] locally rather than importing from overseas
    3) capture kinetic energy from braking

  • @philipaddyman7402
    @philipaddyman7402 4 роки тому

    The 250 ml pouch Hansen used is made by Salamon, although Decathlon also do their version. They cost around £7 and there is also a 500ml version.

  • @GeekonaBike
    @GeekonaBike 4 роки тому +2

    I'm just happy were still talking about Svein Tuft, the preeminent cycling God IMO

  • @OGWNF
    @OGWNF 4 роки тому +1

    The green improvement elephant in the room is non recyclable carbon fiber and shipping frames from across the world.

  • @RyanPage-ym7oy
    @RyanPage-ym7oy 4 роки тому +1

    This is my first time watching the Tour de France. I can’t wait until lit starts!

  • @AlecZier
    @AlecZier 4 роки тому +1

    I'm more curious what kind of bikepacking insanity J Pow would come up with. Manon can tag along if she dares.

  • @ebikescrapper3925
    @ebikescrapper3925 4 роки тому +1

    The easiest way to make your cycling greener is to look at what cleaning products / lubricant you use.

  • @SIvers-or2ke
    @SIvers-or2ke 4 роки тому +3

    How can we make cycling greener?
    Simple.....
    Buy steel bikes and reduce your “carbon footprint”

  • @ytyehyeh
    @ytyehyeh 4 роки тому +2

    Has GCN not heard about gel flasks filled from bulk bottles of gel? I'm sure the GTN folks are familiar with them.