Super Saiyan Blue: Here Is How You FIX It! | MasakoX
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- My feelings towards Super Saiyan Blue in #DragonBallSuper have changed a lot over the years...but now I think we all believe it's a bit of a letdown. What can #DragonBall do to fix it? How can WE fix it? Well I have a theory about that - well more accurately, I have three theories. Join me as we use our knowledge to find ways to make Blue more appealing. #Goku #opinion #dragonballwhatif
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Meanwhile Toei is thinking "hmm people are bored of blue.... let's make it *BLUER* "
they already did... you know... with Supe Vegeta Blue
and that's how SSB Evolution came to be
@@greyser6007 I still think they couldve thought of a much more creative name. Super saiyan blue evolution is the basic description of every saiyan form. Ssj2 is the evolution of ssj1. In GT ssj4 is the ultimate evolution of the saiyan race etc
@@jezreelphil8437 Oh yh I just call it Super Sayian Blue 2, but like that was done really well with Vegeta backed up against the wall between a rock and a hard newly ascended God of Destruction
@@johnhawkins5314 and they never explained what it is. Why it's never appeared before. Requirements. Power etc. It was really cool. But felt like they just wanted to give vegeta something so that he isnt hopelessly outclassed by goku.
I always felt like the hair should've been shaped differently. Wider and more flowing in a way, like a divine blue tree.
Or at least something different from a SSJ palatte swap.
Heck, a trimmed-down version of their hair, a longer version of their hair, a wavy version of their hair, just something different...
@@briang3598 exactly.
But the point of the form is just to be the god version of Super Saiyan
Ya know what I kind of find interesting is that two Dragon Ball figure lines SH Figuarts and the less known Shodo Line potray Super Saiyan Blues hair to be just slightly less wider then Super Saiyan, even though both the hairs are almost identical to the smallest detail in the plastic.
@@briang3598
There’s a slight difference from blue and super saiyan. There’s a tuft of hair that goes to the side instead of up like super saiyan.. not much tho..
I don't hate the form, but I'm just disappointed on how it's handled.
@JJC not without attacking from behind
@@leonardofarias8843 Actually golden frieza had the upper hand for a while in the fight. He wouldve won if he just trained his stamina a bit better.
I personally prefer Ssj god. I like the design more and how it was achieved. It was throw off to the side and then blue came. Since its god ki I think it would have been cooler for vegeta to get a ssj god hakai form like toppo but a ssj form
Idk why Vegeta and Goku have to have to same colors all the time. Like what if the color changed slightly cuz of their vibes and attitude.
Vegeta had a way better use of ssb than Goku.
I think it should've been exclusive for Vegeta only.
We've seen super saiyan blue so many times
Its kinda like
It lost its luster
Exactly. Plus, since it was just a recolor of normal ssj, I was not exactly too hype for it in the first place
you cant lose something you've never had
SSB is just SSJ with God ki to me it's not the real SSGSS
Ssb just got clapped so many times in the story and on top of that it never really accomplished anything against a major threat outside of Frieza
In my opinion. The best way to fix this was use SSG more. Would have been another form that Goku could use and Blue would not need to be used as much which would mean that Blue would automatically be more special whenever it shows up.
Akira Toryiama: Blue is weak
Also Akira: The next stage is blue!
Everybody: But-
Akira: No!
Wait i thought its someone else who makes the super manga
@@BanaNa-rw1dh He does, but following Toriyama-san's outlines and ideas.
@@BanaNa-rw1dh the anime and manga of super are two different continuities
They don't follow each other
Main story points are the same but how that story happens are completely different
Toriyama makes some plot outlines and then the anime staff and toyotaro (the current manga author) adapt those plot points in their own ways
Akira Toriyama : SSJ is weak!
Also Akira: The next stage is with Plasma!
Everybody: Yay!
Akira: Yes.
I think the name "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" does a good job demonstrating how much thought was put into the transformation, which is to say not much.
Yeah I always thought it should be Saiyan God (red) to Super Saiyan God (blue)
Block Yo nah. He means instead of ssb it shoulda been “super duper saiyan god” lol
I don't know combaining ssg with ssj is kind of natural and brilliant.
@@dark-xh7fs can't tell if you're joking
@@SirIron23 i simply like concept. Could be executed better.
I 100% agree with you. SSB should be built up to when they fight a stronger opponent to show how serious they are. The way it's built up when Goku fights Jiren and Broly were both great I'd wish they'd do that more
Jim Fine that’s probably when they fixed the issue. It wouldn’t surprise me that they thought it was lackluster in RoF so they tried fixing it in the ToP and Broly movie.
The problem was that they just chucked ‘huge opponents’ arc after arc so they would have no choice but to go all out from the beginning. Jiren was a different case because Goku didn’t know how strong h was and needed to save his energy. And Broly just kept getting stronger - thus he needed to boost himself as well.
One of the things the manga does so much better. For instance, the technique of using SSG for a heavy opponents, and intermittently switching on the blue for a brief augmentation in speed and strength, but not holding it constantly because it would be too big of a drain on energy
@@briang3598 which doesn't make much sense because one of the special things about Blue is supposed to be that it is a form focused on control over the God Ki, it's not supposed to run out quickly or anything like that.
The issue with these form changes, and with DBZ in general, is that after a certain point they stopped trying to SHOW us how powerful these characters are, and they had to start TELLING us. SS Blue LOOKS just as strong as classic SS, but we're TOLD it's stronger. This is why I'm a little more OK with Ultra Instinct, because it fundamentally changes the way Goku fights and thus really stands out as unique. It's not just "New hair color = More powerful."
Ultra instinct probably does the best job at being an actual proper transformation, right below ssj 1
How to fix blue
1.) make it rare to see.
2.) only show it against super strong opponents
3.) when it is shown make it a very long, brutal fight.
Basically UI
Raenar Braun
Not necessarily. At this point, Ssjblue is a multiverse buster. But more and more characters are asspulled to give it a “good fight”
The fan base is tired of seeing that form for every little thing. Giving it a more scarce appearance and actually making it look as strong as it is will give it a much better reputation.
Stop using it against people like Krillin and then saying the ki control allowed him to lower his power. I mean if he transforms to make himself weaker why not just stay base. Maybe someone will say it's to make himself weaker than his base but that just sounds dumb.
DZ Legend
Exactly. And worst part is that in DBZ goku was stated to have perfect KI control of all his forms except for Ssj3. Meaning that he can easily control his KI in base form. Ssjb wasn’t necessary for anyone in the ToP except for Jiren. The bad writing made Kefla and Anizara above ssjb fro whatever reason, even though ssjb was stated to “have power that rivals even the gods”
Which just pissed me off even more. I guess everyone in dB is G.O.D tier now.
@@zorro8027 I'll give Kefla a pass. Tbh I liked the saiyan girls. More so Caulifla. I could believe that she was actually a prodigy and that Kale's berserk form was like a mini Broly so I can see how blue was needed for Kefla. Blue was also needed for full power Toppo. But yea Goku did a whole training regimen to make SSJ1 a natural form for him. Blue is just about not letting Ki run wild but wasn't that what his training did?
In addition to everything you've said, I think a big problem is that it came right after BoG. We only saw Super Saiyan God (which we all loved) for one fight. I liked the design of Blue. The aura is really cool, and is my favourite aura of all the forms. It just came out of nowhere when we had only just got to grips with the whole new level of power.
"which we all loved" lolwat
@@TheSefirosu200x IKR. Personally I hated the form until the fandom came up with the idea for Vegeta's SSJG to be Blue.
I agree SSG should've had more uses but disagree that it came out of nowhere. Their training with Whis was a whole part of the series
super saiyan god is just your base with god ki, going into super saiyan with it makes ssjb, and they have already mastered ssj, and harder forms, so it makes sense they could go into it easily what doesnt make sense is why people dont understand why ssjg isnt shown much, probably cause of the aura this is the same series where ssj3 wasnt shown much cause of its long hair, so why would an aura be out of the picture to simply just not use it much?
Masako: In short, Blue was half-baked.
Me: Oh you mean, like half of Toriyama's other ideas?
Yeah. I love Masako and the whole TFS crew, but they can be a bit contradictory with what they say.
"Lani: We don't value contarianism just for it's own sake." Even though they were doing a DBCember, and at least 50% of Dragon Ball is contrarianism for it's own sake because Toriyama hates going down the obvious path.
And now Masako saying that Blue was half baked even though most of Dragon Ball beyond the first arc is just ideas that Toriyama made up on the fly without much deep thought behind them.
Trunks1stApprentice What he means by “half-baked” is “half-baked and boring”.
@@Trunks1stApprentice the blue was a bit more so then most. "I use red...so why not blue now. that good." and done
@@gergernzero6904 it was probably blue cause if it was orange ya'know the mixture of what ssjg and ssj would be realistically it'd be hard to tell the difference between ssj and ssjb, so to make it blue was the safer bet
Blue was a mistake. And since it's just mashing two forms together, you can't get rid of it either. The thing to do with it is to throw in something else, so their default is a modified design. Evolution is as good as that horrible blue is ever going to look. I'd personally delete it forever and roll back to the awesome looking red we never got to use correctly.
at least goku used red in the top really cleverly
(red drains much less stamina than blue so he used red when being attacked and blue when going on the offensive when he needed that extra punch)
but blue was unfortunately really underwhelming
Red should have been their goal to achieve *on their own* without any help, with Blue being the crutch until they reach Red. That would also fit with Toriyama's "Red color feels strong while Blue feels weak". They can't really control god Ki yet, so they mix it with their super saiyan transformation to get a boost in power, but weaker than a true godly transformation. And then you can go to UI if needed.
But no, they *ALWAYS* have to up the ante, don't mind that Beerus was still much stronger than Golden Frieza and Red was able to give him something like a fight.
@@scivoid I could agree with you if it wasn't for UI. That's base form hair, basically (well, a tiny bit more wild). Sure, UI is, technically, a technique instead of a transformation, but the eyes and the hair change, so...
That said, what you propose would also work.
Blue wasn't a mistake
And you most of all have no right to speak, Dragon Ball and Naruto Hater
@@Nothingness4907 right after the god Battle of gods ark super Saiyan God what shouldn't even be called super Saiyan God it should just be called saiyan God considering it's just base form hair it's not bad blue isn't terrible to me I'm just mediocre about it maybe if it had more of a lasting impact and a slightly different shade of blue like between blue evolution and blue itself maybe it'd be nice
4:15 Add that line to Dragon Ball Z Abridged future episode. 😂
YASS plz when goku's gonna go ssj3
Goku: oh... here’s what I made earlier AHHHH!!!!! **farts**
Babidi: how my gosh... did you really just fart?
Goku: opps sorry... That was on a accident.... AHHHHH!!!! **goes super saiyan 3** now this is what I made earlier
Babidi: So I'm supposed to be astounded by your massive muscle and long gold hair?
Goku: Is it working?
Babidi: To be honest that demonstration could have been worst, I thought you dye your hair blue.
Goku: Blue? HMMM blue Berry muffin.
Babidi : did you join a hair metal band?
Too bad it's never coming back
I personally felt that Super Saiyan Blue should have introduced Goku and Vegeta to utilising hax abilities, making them focus less on brute strength and more on techniques and new ki-based attacks.
Like magic?
@@Greenhopper14 somewhat. Like when Beerus destroyed half a planet with a fingertap.
@@whodatboi2567 Well I would rather keep super saiyan god as a technique type while blue is a power type, but the excution is different from the original
I remember when people genuinely thought Super Saiyan God was stronger than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan just because of Toriyama’s color statement.
Immortal Zamasu
Same here
I never feel blue with SSB. It always makes my sky blue.
Crisis Among Infinite Darths AC
Agreed
it's not even super saiyan blue, it's super cyan. mastered super saiyan blue is actually blue.
perfected blue doesn’t change hair color
It would've also been amazing if Goku revealed SSB whenever he was fighting Hit for the first time.
Since SSB is apparently all about better ki control, it would've hit us the double whammy of Goku showing off a new form and bringing back Kaioken. It would've added even more tension to the fight and hit our nostalgia buttons. Kaioken Blue was all about mixing the old era of DB with the new one.
Denki Kong
I completely agree about saving Blue for Hit. But save Blue Kaiōken for Goku Black and Zamasu.
It's Super Cyan! >:3c
Sometimes it's hard to Teal that though.
@@robinthrush9672 Are you Azure?
@@CarbonRollerCaco Sapphire it to say, I'm uncertain.
@@robinthrush9672 Truly Turquoise of you to be honest.
@@CarbonRollerCaco these color jokes blue me away. Im surprised i red the most oranginal comment section.
I really liked how SSB was in Broly. The transformation process itself was beautiful and the power scaling was actually pretty good.
According to MasakoX 2019 "DONT be blue, be BLUE"
Oh MasakoX just Saiyian that(I know bad joke now I am Blue)
Phantom O. O best life tips
Honestly, when you mentioned Ultra Instinct being the true essence of Blue, my thoughts were actually about... Goku Black. That's what I envisioned when you said he'd be looser, calmer, more lucid, and overall more eloquent. Goku Black's personality, barring the murder-y, genocide-y side, is actually what I thought of first.
Same
The best ssj blue transformation was in dragon ball super broly
Yep
Ya that and the original super sayion transformation was my favorite i also like how they made goku's hair go mui white for a moment
I keep wondering, would someone who didn't like the original Broly movies and as such was more-or-less anti-hyped for Super Broly like that movie, or should I not bother to watch?
@@shadowrose8907 I hated old Broly, but Super Broly is already one of my favorite characters
@@shrigula9457 really? I might have to give it a look after all.... Thanks for the input; I asked my ex about it a week or two ago, and he was a little vague about it
I would rather have SSB to be as refined mortal ki, imitating god ki
that's clever, that would have made Super Saiyan God feel special
That gave me a boner.
ザマス合がっ体たい so how would you deal with SSB?
We do see sparks of SSB in the anime before they attain it and Whis is like "Hmmm... Interesting". I can't remember which episode but I think Goku and Vegeta are sparring, and their fists connect, the aura around their fists goes blue leading them to stop and look at their fists... but I like your version of it.
yea but that wasn’t originally in the movie, it just showed up
@@TheSwooj doesn't matter the retelling was meant to help explain it.
Nick Zula doesn’t matter, when the form debuted it just showed up without build up and thats it... why am i even arguing this i dont dislike the form
well done Masako. you truly fixed SSblue
but, when you talked about the elegance of speech that blue represents,... I actually thought more of Goku Black when he goes Rose
_"Look at this colour... is it not bEauTiFuL?!"_
Super Saiyan Blue, more like Super Cyan.
Dont worry, my coat is on, I'm on my way out.
No come back that was good
@@TheSonicfan91
Indeed, that was actually pretty good. xD
@Mr Ununpentium
That was actually pretty clever, as it looks like a play on the actual pronunciation of "saiyan."
Honestly I would have kept Super Saiyan God through Battle of Gods/Resurrection F and introduce Blue during Goku's fight with Hit. Would allow it to have a more "bam" reveal & showcase which would do a lot to help the image of the form.
Anyone else here actually like Super Saiyan Blue, or is it just me?
Don't get me wrong, it definitely could have been tweaked like Masako said, but I still like it the way it is. Still loved the video!!!
Yup! Love Super Saiyan Blue as well!
I like super saiyan blue too, but I agree with him.
I like super saiyan blue but the problem is that was over utilized for trivial things and ignoring the existence of Super Saiyan God until the Tournament of power... why was Super Saiyan God not utilized in the earlier sagas if Vegeta can use Super Saiyan God in Dragon Ball Broly and Goku ultilze Super Saiyan God in the tournament of power
I like blue, it can look great in some transformations but I kinda prefer god. Just color preferences mostly
I like the form, but its naming and introduction aren't great.
As an example, simply "Saiyan God" for the red one and "Super Saiyan God" for blue, since SSJB is supposed to be a Saiyan God that's gone super saiyan. Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan? Really? What's next, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan?
As for its introduction, it should have been introduced in a similar fashion as the first introduction as the original Super Saiyan on Namek, where Krillin dies and causes Goku to go Super Saiyan along with his God form and send Frieza back to his happy hell.
I really like Blue, I always felt that it was sort of a combination of Super Saiyan's power boost with standard form's precise Ki control (hence the ability to use it with Kaioken) and also, in regards to him using it in the fight against Krillin, I always interpreted that as Goku wanting to give Krillin a taste of how powerful the opposition in the tournament was going to be
I won’t lie. I actually like Super Saiyan Blue from an aesthetic viewpoint. But I agree that it could be improved.
Yeah, it's a little harder to be objective against your favorite color
A great setback for SSGSS would be if it's held back by anger, then blue isn't available when you're overtaken by anger!
goku has already mastered ssj which would kinda be about controlling your anger, you know the thing that orignally made it happen
I love vageta's new blue form because it has freaking pupils again, I love the pupils idk why, and the darker blue color is great.
With your colour theory it would make sense to use ssjblue against krillin and such, so he could read into them better. Maybe that could be an explanation why Goku used it...
I actually like this fix alot.
the logic behind goku using blue on krillin was to prepare him for the ridiculously strong guys at the top so the color theory actually fits in nicely here especially since goku says and i quote: “krillin, what will you do now?”
Do a what if when Goku keeps his tail
He whould be a lot stronger
Mabe even a ssjblue ozaru
@khsquare 02 do you think he whould go ssj4 because he whould be a golden ozaru
@khsquare 02 i don't know but it whould be cool 😎
You guys are coming up with some good ideas
In my opinion, I just roll with it as far as transformations go. Granted I got really hyped upon watching resurrection f, but I do see your point masako.
Okay so from now on masako's version of the transformation is what actually happend. Everyone in agreement?
Mandalore the flatulent just to spite you. No.
That way you’ll never get ‘everyone’.
@@DarkEclipse23 oh? Looks like we got a rebel on our hands ladies and gents lol.
I am in
I'm not a fan of the shade of blue until Super Blue Vegeta and the Broly film.
It's more teal instead of blue, SBV and in Broly it was actually BLUUE
Zuriel Arana
Indeed
This should become a series where Masako tries to give theories and ideas on how to fix some of Dragon Ball's biggest letdowns or bad moments...Maybe call it...MasakofiX? lol
I always thought when Goku was going from SSG to SSB in the Broly movie and seeing him look like he was struggling was that Goku was trying to go Mastered Ultra Instinct but couldn't due to not learning how to turn MUI at will decided to just go Blue instead, that's what I took away from seeing his hair, eyebrows and pupils trying to go silver in the Broly film since at that time we didn't know about the Moro Arc as well as if Goku was going to learn to fully unlock a way to go UI and MUI at will like he does with the other forms he has
What if both Goku and Vegeta went to earth. (Think Dragonball Sai and cannon Dragonball)
Well than if that's a thing, I what a what if about Bardock and Gine escaping with Goku
MrMichaelLaw2011 You mean canon. Not s large cylindrical gun
@@nightwalker174 What would be wrong with having a Dragonball Cannon, imagine the stopping power of such a weapon!
SkyTech RTS Dragon balls are smaller than normal cannonballs. Unless you go to namek, then they're slightly larger. Unless you go get the Super Ones, there's an idea.
What do you mean if they went to earth they already live there?
13:38 - Or I suppose you could _also_ say that it was done for...
*MARKETING!*
MAHKETING
I kind of like Super Saiyan Blue, though. Truthfully, it has the 2nd most victories out of any other Super Saiyan form, after the 1st Super Saiyan form. Although most of those were victories in which Super Saiyan Blue was not even needed, but still. The form also seems to break it's limits alot. Like when Goku Blue overpowered a Vegito Blue level opponent in Merged Zamasu during a Energy blast clash.
I always thought super saiyan blue would have a lightning motif like how super saiyan god had a fiery aura kinda like that except electricity
That's SS2
Wind would have been better
johanness guten
Why wind?
@@RickyUzumaki993 Probably because 2 and 3 had lightning, and God had Fire. Keep up the scheme. Maybe Ice for Blue? Keep Wind for a potential Green transformation if it happens
DracoFlyer
Fair enough
Me: *notices ssb evolution for vegeta*
Also me: so ssj sapphire?
Is 4:15 suppose to be a preview of what TFS is going to do with the goku turning super Saiyan 3 for the first time?
Someone better dub over his voice over the ss3 transformation
Wait, SSB got an EZA?! Someone tell D-Free, we've been waiting for this for forever now!
Wait what!
When I first SSGSS was it was only with Vegeta, I thought Goku would have a Red transformation, and Vegeta got Blue, and I thought that was really cool, my hopes were crushed
Bobbymiczobby dude same that would’ve been sick
@@Luke-vz4wd purple hair vegito, and Gogeta
Thank you Masako very cool
Gotta say, I adore Super Saiyan Blue. It's possibly my favorite transformation out of all of them (due in part to the ability to use Kaioken with it, which itself is actually what got me interested in Dragon Ball again a few years ago) but I must say that you make some fantastic points here, and I like your idea of having it be used as a stepping stone for Ultra Instinct.
Did uh, anyone else notice that the background light turned green when he said Broly's power was maximum?
Ssj 3 transformation sounded painful
Just sayian
Why is it blue though
Isn't it supposed to be orange
RIGHT!
Super android 13 is an example for that
@@mariobros1594 I don't want Goku to steal vegeta's do
The thing most people fail to get with the Goku blue vs. Krillin is that it's not that Krillin was so strong that Goku had to resort to blue, but rather Goku wanted to show Krillin the sort of power levels he might very well encounter during the tournament of power.
In fact, Krillin ended up winning, not by overpowering Goku, but by using his head.
The best redesign for Super Saiyan Blue is turning it into Super Saiyan Orange, change my mind
Super Sayian Violet, change MY mind
@@Im_The_Meh why would it turn violet? Super Saiyan God's red hair mixing with super saiyan's blond hair and turning orange should be a no brainer
@@dandyspacedandy too be honest I thought you were saying orange because it might be your favorite which is why I said violet
@@Im_The_Meh choosing random colors was the whole problem lmao
@@dandyspacedandy That being said I feel super saiyan violet could be like a corrupt version of ssgss/ssb that make the user lose control. idk just throwing out an idea
SSblue being more elegant... then does goku get a British accent while being blue?
SkullytheKidd01 no but he does when he goes Rosé
Yeah, they didn't handle Blue too well. I used to think that they used it so often because its about Ki Control and them learning to use Divine Energy. That's how Goku was able to use it against Krillin and not instantly disintegrate him. He could use Blue at a lower level to give Krillin a sort of confidence boost ya know? Buuuuuut, obviously that's not the case since they still use regular SSJ pretty often too. I can only defend the show so much lmao
A good way to fix the issue of not using blue is, having them use it when they actually need to and making goku and Vegeta ascend into it. And, when they get tired they drop into ssg.
IF they could redo they'd probably switch the red and blue and we'd have red hair for SSJGSSJ and blue for just normal SSJG
Evo
Probably
You wanna be blue?? Well then I'll just become.. BLUER!!!!!!
super saiyan dark blue
This video has gotten me feeling a little BLUE!
I’ll see myself out...
Looking bacl, yeah, Blue is pretty underwhelming.
With this new insight in hand, I hope you apply it to your different what ifs
Z Tier: SSJ, God, Omen
S Tier: SSJ2, SSJ4, Rose
A Tier: Golden Frieza, MUI, Legendary SSJ
B Tier: SSJ3, False SSJ, Evolution, Rage
C Tier: SSB
I would switch SSJ4 with God and since Rage made Trunks go from Base Goku Black level to Super Saiyan Blue Vegito level puts it in the same tier as Blue
If we go with the chakra theory, then having Goku get more creative with his ki moves would be really fun. We’ve seen that ki can be used to form pretty much anything. Spheres, discs, lightning, halos, there doesn’t seem to be any outright limit.
Honestly felt like ssb and ultra instinct should of been the same thing and made it so they find out how to master SSG
xenoverse 2 showed us them training in the weird whis chamber thingie, I think it also showed us them getting blue. Wish the anime did that.
Hey, big fan, but...for as much as you talk up how emotionally impactful Super Saiyan transformations can and should be, you seem to give out SSJ2 rather easily in your what-ifs.
I think the best way to fix the design of SSB is to simply make the form more like SSG, such as giving it a skinnier body and a more "peaceful" looking face, instead of just giving a Super Saiyan a blue hair dye.
its a MIX of ssjg and ssj, now what are those forms? a spiky haired form mixed with a form that just changes the color of your hair, so what does that make? a form that looks exactly like the form with the spiky hair aka ssj
IF THEY JUST USED BLUE LESS AND USED GOD MORE THAN THE FORM WOULDA HAD MORE IMPACT
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Well. It's official, Masako's SSB origin is part of my headcannon
Hey MasakoX! I'm Senior48. Since you already fix Super Saiyan Blue, I have an idea to fix Super Saiyan 3. I would change from a form that Goku claim to be his discovery with no real evidence to a form that had a purpose to exist. For Example: Goku is in the Final Round of some Tournament. (Not the "Goku vs Pikkon" one) and He's about to fight his last Opponent. His Opponent was a calm person with selfless personality, completely opposite to Goku. That fight taught Goku something important. *Be Cautious.* When he's fighting, he can't let his ego cloud his mind. If he do that, He's gonna erase his Existence. He trained his Body, Mind and Power so much that he earn a new form. Super Saiyan 3. That form erase his ego and made him cautious while fighting. Now he will never risk everyone's life ever again.....
Sorry for my bad English.
TeamPrankinBall
Not bad
Personally super saiyan blue became my favorite transformation because of the broly movie and also my favorite color is blue but I do see the problems of it. So I like this video very much keep up with the incredible videos 👌👌
I think ultra instict is "primal" rather than "elegant". Basically being more instinctive than reflective. From that point of view I don't agree with the fix that ssblue would be a light ultra instinct.
Still impressed by your ability to nearly perfect character voices. That Whis voice is inspiring! 👍
I really like this
I would personally make Blue much more powerful, almost as powerful as UI. Due to it's insane power boost, it would slowly damage Goku and Vegeta's body because they wouldn't be strong enough to handle that level of power for too long. Because of this, they would mainly use Super Saiyan God and use Blue as a last resort or if they are being overpowered by the one their fighting. I would also make it to where they would be calm while in Blue, similar to UI and the Angels. This will help them focus more during a fight and make less mistakes.
Exactly this! Nothing to add, really. The importance of a transformation comes from the circumstance it get's archieved. Especially with the God ki. Even Super Saiyan was somewhat more spectacular, after Goku fell back to it after he absorbed the God ki fully and yet being able to somewhat hold a foot step against Beerus. Now that was really nice introduced to us. :)
Off screen archievements of those forms are just not that mystical and impressive, because we don't see the struggle for that form.
These are scenarios which have tremendous levels of gravitas, presence and... SPLENDA?! 😲
J/k masako ily
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11:33 I feel like this mood shift should be applied only to early uses of Super Saiyan Blue. Similarly to how most Super Saiyan transformations were reached through rage and outbursts of emotion.
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I personally love it, i may be a little biast due to it being my favourite colour, but its actually quite well used in super come the u6 vs u7 tournament, the greater ki control required to use the form allowed him to use the kaioken again, always found it a shame he stopped using it seeing as that and the spirit bomb are kinda his only attacks that are exclusive to him(never actually see king kai use them) so i was so happy when this greatly coloured super saiyan form brought back such a great technique
I like ssb but I always thought it acted like a dimmer switch. At max, it’s much stronger than ssg, but because it’s better control of god ki it should make all other forms weaker useless because blue can just dial in that much power.
But they still showcase the older forms because marketing. I can be wrong tho
That's a good way to make blue better.
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The topic of God ki.
God's are supposed to be impressive and can do multiple things, all God ki does in saiyans is let's them hit harder.
I'd have God ki be able to do much more, like matter manipulation, regeneration, ressurection(Like Goku did with Roshi in the t.o.p), and a slew of other abilities.
For example, Gokus crops aren't getting enough water?
He fired a God ki blast into the clouds and it begins raining.
Chi chi wants a specific type of diamond?
Goku takes a regular old rock, uses God ki, and turns it into the diamond.
It would make them sound OP yes but there are RULES to it to keep it in check.
I don't have a solid Idea of the rules but they can be made quite easily.
God ki could be used for so much more than it already is
Thanks for the video masako!👍🏽💯
This sounds awesome, i also think they should be able to survive in space
Joke's on you. I'm already subscribed to Qaaman.
I really like SSB but I would change 1 thing, it's stated that it provides better ki control so I think it should come with new abilities like Zamasu's ki weapons or beams from their feet or mouth just more unique ki manipulation in general
i was never fan of blue.I would of prefer if they made SSJ4 canon
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I love the drawing in the thumbnail! You should comission this person more often.
I mean i would if liked it if Toriyama at least kept visiual consistency and gave it SSJ Gods eyes, maybe even go so far as to leave the eyes red.
America Eagle Or a red super saiyan with spiked hair. And then give the blue to Vegeta. Signifying attaining it on your own. Let people have different Aura colors. Not just copies.
@@nightwalker174 No. You aren't the only one suggesting that but there would simply ve too many colirs to keep track off than.
America Eagle
There's already too many colors to keep track of. Your argument makes no sense. Goku gets red and Vegeta gets blue. How is that more complicated than what it is now? If anything, it's less complicated.
@@nightwalker174 No. Each color is a different stage. It would be confusing if Goku and Vegeta each got a different color. What would you do for an ancor then? There are only so many colors. Also SSJ has this rule where the same stage looks the same for everybody. Its an unspoken rule but im glad its not broken.
America Eagle That's not a rule. That's never been established. Stop talking out of your ass.
Super Saiyan Blue should’ve been handled:
-Powerful but delicate.
-Difficult to get and maintain. You cannot power up into the form normally by just RAHH screaming. The user must remain calm and focused.
-Notable weakness: Getting angry and enraged causes the user to drop out of the form.
Masako goku was obviously holding back against krillin and 17. Goku used the other transformations to gauge jiren's strength. I wouldn't change anything I like blue's introduction.
Tiger Shark Max i think at least the debut could have been better just a little. Maybe jumping to super saiyan god beforehand and whatnot. Had a slight dramatic flare.
@@DarkEclipse23 Yeah there are ways to make it better but I'm fine with hiw it is
when toriyama is in the show: super saiyan,when toriyama is not in the show:super saiyan blue
THERE IS SSJ2 AND SSJG TOEI
Here's my own opinion on how SSJ Blue should have been handled.
Persona:
Like you mentioned, Super Saiyan Blue should have changed Goku and Vegeta's moods, they should be more relaxed and normal and less prone to anger and frustration. Normal SSJ was to be achieved through a screaming power up of rage, Blue should be the opposite and instead activated through a calm and silent transformation with no sighs of a struggle. In a way, Blue's effect on the user should be more or less like how Goku and Gohan looked with Super Saiyan Grade 4. No serious strain on the user and a more calm feeling when in the form.
Powers/Abilities:
Being a GOD form, the Super Saiyan Blue form should retain the powers of one. With the main staple of the form being Ki control, characters who can't sense God Ki wouldn't be able to sense a Blue user's Ki, giving them a huge advantage over their opponents who rely on sensing Ki these days. I'm not too sure if Blue should keep Super Saiyan God's healing ability, so for now I'd keep it exclusive to God for reasons I'll get into in just a bit.
Contrast to Super Saiyan God:
We all know that the Super Saiyan God form has been shown to be more conservative than Blue, so instead of using SSJ Blue 24/7 in battles, Super Saiyan God should be used more often by the characters to access their God abilities without risking going Blue unless they're in serious trouble and they need to break out their maximum power. God's healing ability can be very useful when they don't have access to Sensu Beans and the more balanced power usage along with the Instant Blue technique make it more reliable for drawn out battles.
Other:
With Blue technically being a hybrid between normal SSJ and Super Saiyan God, they should show that through transformations sequences like they did in the Broly film to highlight it further and get people to understand what the form actually is. A SSJ Goku calms his mind as a red flame envelopes him, you see his SSJ silhouette through the flames as the colours of the flame fade from red to blue as the flames of aura clear to reveal SSJ Blue.
My comments about Blue making the user more calm and relaxed isn't supposed to rip from Ultra Instinct's book, while it is supposed to lead into that form, my idea of the character's mood is different. In Blue, they would be more calm, fluid and collected. Ultra Instinct makes you COMPLETELY silent and serious, your emotions and ordinary personality leave the door as you become a hyper focused, fast, precise and deadly warrior. Blue is the half way point and Ultra Instinct would be the end goal.
I know I've posted this two months after this came out, but I came back and gave this more thought and decided to share my ideas.
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I like your idea
Goku did not struggle to turn SSJB in the Broly movie. He was trying to go MUI, you see his hair flicker silver for a moment before he goes blue. After all, when Broly is overwhelming Goku, we see Vegeta go blue in seconds to join the battle.
Personally I 💙 Super Saiyan Blue. But Yeah, It's Very Poorly Handled And Wasn't Introduced Properly.
Watching your videos and Totalnotmark's videos on characters, kinda makes me want to make my own what-ifs/fan stories.
Mainly a what-if about the Androids arriving early (end of the original series) and a story about the Red Ribbon Army making a clone of Goku, who ends up going his own path. Sorta taking ideas from X-23's origin, with his "mom" taking him away from the lab so they can live a normal life. I am hoping to, however, if I write this, make him his own sorta thing.
As for the Androids arriving early thing, that is A. To make a pretty cool Gohan arc, and B. Make a Trunks Black arc.
Not hating the transformation, but for me SSJ3 and SSJ4 are my favorite ones those look badass though Super Saiyan God was good as well.
Well yeah I'd also go with that throat chakra concept, since you explained it that's actually quite perfect, but I'd also make it a slight elemental power. Same with red.
Red would be more fire based, his hair showing subtle signs of being literal flame but not appearing as such, symbolizing his new ability to weaponize his own body heat and make things hotter for the opponent if they are too close. Maybe even use his hands to pass microwaves into the opponent to fry them from the inside.
Blue in turn would be the next step, electricity. His hair would subtly be like jagged crystal surging with EMP. And much like the thunderbolt he would move as quick as a flash even faster than normal. Pretty much just using the Instant Transmission without needing to concentrate, now it is an automated body function just like breathing or moving any of his fingers. His brain synapses and nervous system now do all the work allowing him to teleport fast enough to become a being almost like the Cheshire Cat, everywhere and nowhere. Also his body is a highly conductive living battery, using a weaponized static shock to make him dangerous for enemies to even touch him.
And for the love of Pete, make the damn blue hair more appealing than that ugly looking cyan they went with. Also change the bloody name to something better like "Super Saiyan Titan".
I always felt that Goku and Vegeta should have kept the red God state for a while. Then having them and Future Trunks forced to go against Goku Black who turns SS Rose would have been awesome. Especially if the ending had Trunks be the first one to go True Blue as he defeated Goku Black with spirit sword. Then his ending of his story being taken by Chronoa to become Xeno would be great because Goku could have ended it with saying Future Trunks had left them with "something to work towards" like he did the first time when Trunks gave him heart medicine. It would just have been perfect.
If would’ve been cool if, whenever Goku and Vegeta were in blue and they got angry, instead of getting a boost in power they just got kicked out of blue and had to calm themselves down before they could transform again
Did we just get a preview for the super saiyan transformation
About when we saw these forms for the first time. I tend to give more credit to SS3 because we had a time skip of 7 years, so it's not far fetch that Goku got a new form in that time. But in the case of SSB, it just came out of nowhere.
My opinion is that, as you mentioned, Goku should've transformed in a training with Wiss or something, then it's the battle against Frieza... but they keep the fact that Vegeta can also reach that form a secret, so when he transforms, it's a cool revelation