You know, since Shin is doing his job, would Universe 7 qualify for the one of the top 4 universe power levels, making them exempt from the tournament?
After the Tournament is over Zeno could make another tournament where only the Top 4 Universes participate without punishment for losing and the same prize in the form of a wish from the Super Dragon Balls.
Goku: Bye supreme kai! We're gonna go get as strong as beerus you're boring! *teleports Vegeta to whis to train with him* Kibito: why... why did you let him go??? Shin: we're in the endgame now...
If Yamoshi created an elite force of super saiyans and all the derelict worlds were being efficiently disposed of. Wouldn't that boost the mortal ranking of Universe 7?
Likely would, but for the sake of the What-If it probably won't be enough to get U7 completely out of the ToP; It may, however, boost how the other GoD's view U7, since Shin's guidance makes Beerus look good by proxy due to better mortal ranking.
Universe 11 had Pride Troopers and Universe 6 had the actual Elite force of Saiyan heroes, albeit not SSJs but confirmed to have higher battle potential in general anyway than U7 Saiyans. Even with all that, these universes still ended up in the ToP. Xeno only excempted the top 4 universes with the best Mortal Levels.
@@isabellerodil7124 The reason the Universes were at the ToP is because the destroyers and the Kais had not been active in their duties. We see this complacency come to bite back with Zamasu, Gowasu could have provided a more ample learning experience for Zamasu if he had actually bothered to show Zamasu the ways of creating new life that may thrive and why... Instead the only training Zamasu got was in how to make a gourmet tea 🍵 and take the same type of field trip that probably got Frieza to hate monkeys.
Ya know golden Freaza might still happen because if Freaza hears that someone defeated majin buu then he might come to the same conclusion he did in the original timeline, and that is to train.
Well we don't know if Frieza would ne the same im this scenario, with Frost Demons being forced to be more secretive Frieza could possibly become way more cunning and catious instead of acting like a spoiled brat who always got what he wanted.
I would love an addition to this what if showing how different saiyan society and the saiyan characters are under Yamoshi's leadership, I can see them having a somewhat Stratocratic society where the military and government are the same. King Vegeta 3- Lord/ General Vegeta Bardock- Colonel Bardock Vegeta 4- Commander Vegeta Radiz- Sergeant Radiz Kakarot- Private Kakarot Same characters with slightly different personalities given the more stable but still competitive environment of the saiyans
I think that it's possible for Dr Gero to survive the Saiyan assault like he did with Goku's. If so, his research would have likely gone down a similar path; ending in the creation of a being similar to Cell. It would be interesting to see what plot line you could make with that in this new AU Masako.
I doubt it. You are talking about a much larger force of soldiers who are all stronger than Goku was, and also are more mature and understand about cleaning up.
Even then, this Gero doesn't have access to the same power as his alternate self. None of the Saiyans live on Earth and they don't have a reason to return post Red Ribbon. Also none of Dragonball happened really, so his version of Cell would have dna access to a hand full of fighters and almost none of them on the level of the Saiyans. Even Frieza doesn't exist the same way. So no visit to Earth for him. No King Piccolo being freed, the list goes on. So even if Cell does happen, Gero doesn't have the same genetics or data available to him. so his androids don't pack the same punch.
@@haukness Tbh I am unfamiliar with the manner in which he survived Goku's assault, haven't watched the original DB myself. I assume though it was because he was in an underground secret lab that Goku missed, I don't think its unreasonable to assume the Saiyans could miss that same lab.
@@charliesmith1358 no he wouldn't. He didn't start collecting DNA until after Goku had destoryed the army, plus we see his bots collecting dna and data all of that would be post Saiyans like during his tournament fights and none of those happened and they'd never have a reason to return to Earth to give him another chance. Cell might still happen, but he happens without any of the data or DNA that made the original as dangerous. As for the infinite engines, I'd argue those also might not exist or at least not in the same form. The same way 17 and 18 were leagues weaker in the future than their present day selves after Trunk's intervention, this 17 and 18 would be created with signifigantly less data collected by Gero. And the data was the reason his androids were so powerful, because he knew what he needed them to match or succeed in terms of power. In this timeline he has almost none of that.
The link with Beerus has to/must be with Old Kai. Besides, Old Kai only *looks* as old as he does due to him fusing with an old witch. If he didn't, he would still look very young.
What if Goku landed in the Brief family yard and grow up as Bulmas little brother 1. Goku can get a hit on the head buy machine in the lab 2. Actually have an education pretty sure they wouldn't leave him dumb I mean the Saiyan race should be pretty smart when it comes to some technology like his Saiyan pod and how to operate it 3. Goku can have a different name maybe he can be named Trunks instead by young Bulma it could be cute 4. When Bulma can take Goku on her journey so it could almost be the same but when they learn about the great ape can be fun part to itself 5. They could realize he was alien waaaaaaay earlier 6. Goku can have brawns and Brains like an early Gohan (who would have a different name) and maybe be a better husband and parent and NOT be poor
Plus when they go searching for the 4 star Dragon Ball they can meet Grandpa Gohan and have Goku trained by both him and Master Roshi. Which I imagine would jumpstart his love of not just the adventure but fighting. Still no idea how they would manage Great Ape form since it would probably happen before going to collect the dragon balls like it did when Goku was with Grandpa Gohan.
@@lowpacker6126 I also think a Superman Red Sun kind of story like if Goku was found by the Red Ribbon Army and not hit his head and maybe turned into an Android and be REALLY strong
Have to agree that if the remaining supreme kai of universe 7 stood up to Beerus then that’d be more entertaining especially considering he’d end up growing a backbone
@@lordhades598 Tien would be the most likely to learn it, I don't think Yamcha could handle the strain of it, Chiaotsu wouldn't either, and Piccolo is Piccolo and wouldn't participate.
Can you imagine if King Kai had taught all of them the spirt bomb?! Even if they couldn't complete with the likes of Cell and Buu, they could stand on the outskirts like they always do and just summon 3 spirt bombs, or hell, a massive one they create together.
@@williamcortelyou4524 pretty sure Chi Chi is just stronger than Yamcha, despite not training anymore. I mean, would you wanna be on the bad side of the woman?
This was a great 'What If', I'd love to see where it goes. I think the Universe 7 team would maybe be filled with more Saiyans due to Yamoshi (maybe) teaching the Saiyan God Ritual and further training to the Sadala Saiyans to protect the world. Maybe even have access to the various Super Saiyan stages through enough training. Super Saiyans 1, 2, 3 and 4; Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan God Evolution and even the Berserker Saiyan could be perfected and tamed to be forces for good. It would DEFINITELY put Beerus in his place as he sees THAT MANY powerful beings that could rival him and make him stop napping, the Frost clan would be terrified at this power and be kept under watch. And if the 'Saiyan Galactic Patrol' travels to Earth, there might be an interplanetary alliance and peace with them, even Human-Saiyan hybrids born and living in peace. Heck, Earth might be the best place for them to retire and have families.
People like yamcha, tien, and krillon would integrate well with the Saiyans perhaps taking Saiyan wife's honestly if shin is using the Saiyans as peacekeepers from that early on its likely that they would be one of the highest for mortal levels and with the involvement of the namekion and humans you would have an unrivaled squad of universe defenders the frost clan would be found out quick because of the namekions abilitys to see the hearts of others
@@duburakibaMuch like Universe 2, I think Universe 7 would have a team that would include Tuffles & Yardratians, Because the Tuffles' high tech machines, and the Yardratians' Instant Transmissions would be a welcomed inclusion into this What If's Galactic Patrol alongside the Saiyans, Humans and Namekians. You might even see some of Beerus/Champa/Dyspo's race, Jiren's Race, Magetta's race, etc. If Shin does his job, he won't have to only rely on the saiyans, and that'd be pretty interesting to see. Also I want to disagree with MasakoX in that the versions of Kakarot, Raditz, Vegeta would have different names/personalities, I say this considering there was at least 4 Vegetas, and the first one would've had to established the monarchy, and that a lot of saiyans look alike, I'd think there would be saiyans named Vegeta, Bardock, Kakarot, Broly, Raditz, etc, and high chance they would line up eventually. But I think the comment about them being different is compelling and interesting at least.
@Andrew Gray I'm just saying that we would still see Vegeta's lineage because they're major players. I think we would see their names and offspring, because they established a monarchy in canon, and have existed for at least 4 generations worth of Saiyans, and Saiyans can live long lives. They could be loyal to Yamoshi, they could have been snuffed out, who knows, but I'm just saying they have influence and I think they could've emerged somewhere during Yamoshi's usual era, or not soon after. Maybe their lineage goes back even farther, maybe there's a few Tarbles who were kings in between those 4 Vegetas, since those names seem to be thematically connected what with the "Vegetable" pun.
Ohhh I've been waiting for this "what if" for a while. As someone who used to really like Shin as a character (still kinda do), its nice to see that somebody cares enough to think of ways to improve him. I remember back when I first watched the Buu saga and felt annoyed by how he was brushed to one side so elder kai could take over. Thank you for this.
I think you're building to your own version of the Dragonball Multiverse manga. And I can't freaking wait. :D main timeline Goku meeting Good Guy Raditz would be AMAZING.
I actually really like this “what if”! It’s very interesting considering this time around we actually get to see shin DO SOMETHING! So with that being said thank you masako!
I would believe that the meeting of "Alter Goku" (other dude who have his role in this timeline) and his brother and what it would deal might attract the attention of the Saiyans. Would be interesting to see that point of view now that saiyans are good people. What would they do to that Earth Saiyan?
What if Piccolo was driven insane by Absorbing Nail, unable to handle the fusing of Identities. After the Frieza Saga, disgusted by the gap between him and Goku now, he goes to New Namek and begins to absorb the population, while abusing the Dragon Balls. Sets up a new Season during the three year Training during Android arc. I'd call it, The Vampire-Demon King Piccolo Saga.
And what about Dr.Gero after the destruction of the Red Ribbon Army? Surely he might be mad that some space alien just came here and made such disaster. How would he react to that, what actions will it do? What Cell, if it is z project, will have as new DNA? So many questions!
Omg this what if, just spawned into like 10 different wha ifs ... Guys we need Masako to see this upvote Shapeshift_Moon's comment as much as possible bring it to the top!!!!
I love Shin. He is one of my favorite characters. Glad to see you doing him proper justice. But on the topic of Supreme Kai what-ifs... What if ALL the U7 kais survived Buu?
Dang, this is a really good idea; watching all your what if’s, I think “he’s gotta be running out of ideas soon” but this one really shows you haven’t, I really enjoy this one Masako! Keep up the good work 🤙🏽
To be fair with Shin, his training wasn't complete. From my understanding only universe 7 has the cardinal supreme kais but for a reason. The credit goes to channel orgulho Saiyajin for the theory that i agree a lot. The theory says that the 4 were aprentice supreme kais from each quadrant of the universe (N, S, W and E) and the Grand Supreme Kai was watching their progress to select his sucessor. And it appears that he saw more potential in shin as we see the together. However, Majim Boo strikes resulted on the death of the North and West supreme kais, the aprentices. As well as the absorption of the Grand Supreme kai and the South Supreme Kai (this one beying stated to be the strongest at the time). IF you want to see this way: There was a university teacher and 4 students, the teacher retired and the other 3 were gone, the 1 left had to start working without properly completing his training. That is why Elder Kai is still arround, he is finishing the trainid the Grand Supreme Kai couldn't. Advising Shin on how to properly proceed. Now that we have this understanding, let's remember something... Beerus (and yes even Whis) are at fault too. Shin might be bad at his job, but that's because of lack of experience, this will improve over time with Elder Kai's assistance. Now let's talk about beerus Beerus is the destroyer god, and is much more experienced than shin when it comes to do his job. Beerus is just lazy, it's different than incompetency. Not to mean the criteria used by beerus to destroy planets is sometimes questionable. Think, he sleeps a lot, this allowed Majim Boo, to start destroying planets, or did you forget he destroyed MANY in a roll?Frieza and the sayans caused many of the universe planets and mortals with potential to not develop and cease to exist too. And when he is awake what do he do? Attempt to destroy a planet because of food, and once he even destroyed HALF of a planet, think on how colapsed it became. So basically, the inaction of beerus and his terrible choosing for which plaent to destroy, agravates the situation. And now comes Whis. Is it true that the angels must remain neutral all the time, but as such, whis is bellow and above beerus in hierarchy twice and ultimatelly is supposed to be the Universe's guardian. How can he allow his destroyer to go out of line in that way? He is smarted, he knows the rules, and has more than enough power to put beerus in line. Sure he cannot fire beerus, but at least could he say "My lord, are you sure? Despite the problems faced this planet is growing well and destroying half of it would unnecessarily put many of innocent lives at misery for the loss of their loved ones they care about. The final decision is up to you." you see? At least ADVISE him when in his view a injustice could be. Planet vegeta's destruction wasn't much of a baaad thing as example of right criteria, as the saiyans weere causing unbalacing in the universe by destroying worlds. Tho not all of them were bad, and another solutions could be made such as beerus using hakai on the evil ones, or frieza, by far the most cruel beying in the multiverse. So in conclusion, for the balance to come, should shin get it more seriously and effectivelly? yes, and he is under assistance of elder kai for it. But if a destroyer and his angel don't cooperate, it's hard to do anything. And i say more: Should shin become a GREAT supreme kai, and beerus jeopardize his job, if i were shin, i'd talk to beerus confronting him AND whis. And if they don't will to cooperate, i'd report the issues directly to the Grand Priest, so it could be handled by him (as the Omnikings would probably erase Universe 7 as they tend to be immature on their actions, and in THAT case, there's nothing GP can do). Long text i know. But i hope it made things clear. Also this is just my opinion, nobody is forced to agree with me, i just wish some respect, thanks for reading :D
Babidi and Moro would certainly meet in Galactic Patrol Custody. Two dangerous wizards being able to coordinate much like Gero and Myuu did in GT sounds very interesting.
Thank you so much for this! My joy literally can't be contained. I've been asking for this in the comments on and off for over a year. I was grinning the whole time. I love you so very much now Masako. Well, more then I did. Not much more, cuz it was alot. You probably didn't see those comments, and probably won't see this one, but here's a thank you note thrown into the sea of comments like a message in a bottle anyways.
You know rewatching this I’d have to wonder about a couple of things one if U7 would even be in the Tournament of Power with Shin working hard and the frost demons a non-issue the mortal levels of U7 might be high enough to grant immunity secondly what about U6 after seeing the vast improvements of U7 Champa would likely demand a similar system be put in place in his universe and since he likely still has all his kais they could do an even better job than U7 raising their mortal levels thus the rivalry between brothers improves 6 which prompts 7 to improve and restore kais to their positions possibly even using the dragon balls to do so thus 6 & 7 continuously improves itself as each one striving to have a better universe than the other
when i think of the relation between supreme kais and GoDs it reminds me of the tree of might probably a borrowed concept from the movie when he stated kais as fruit people.
Not what I thought it was going to be but very entertaining personally I thought it was going to be Shin growing a pair stepping up and using potara fusion on Kid Buu to end the threat
What a fun premise! Funny thing is with this, you can work around SOME of the original DB characters (such as Bulma, Yamcha, Chi-Chi, Krillin etc) re-imagining almost altogether their lives... while at the same time come up with equivalents for the Saiyan characters such as Goku, Raditz, Vegeta, Nappa ecc but with completely different names, circumstances, genders... basically creating completely new OCs to fit this What If! It really gives foot to a LOT of creativity to come in play!
Most interesting What If in a long long time. I'm interested in seeing what you can do with this masako. Can't wait for your Xeno "GT" Grand Tournament
This was dope! Very fan fiction but one of the most interesting what ifs in the entire dragon ball community from the last few months! Let’s see more parts. I’d love to see how yamoshi would influence the z fighters and what new threats would rise up!
Hay masako would you consider doing a video on picalo. Everyone loves saiyans but I have an idea for a video. The idea is that picalo has a son of his own you know besides gohan, as we have seen picalo has some paternal instincts and after fusing with nail his personality became a little bit kind . I think that the kids name should be chanter witch is a smaller version of the bagpipes continuing with the whole instrument naming theme. : )
This is way more cooler and interesting than i thought it would be i really hope you carry this on and eventually have the Z fighters included with Goku and Vegeta in what ever incarnation they become in
Between the video I thought that mortal population level will become very high to the point shin can't visit every planet so he leave some planets under thier hero protection. While remaining evil saiyan that survive defect to planet vegeta which and they become much softer like In DBS broly movie. Following event of db - dbz cell saga will be played while Shin just grab some popcorn and watch the show.
This is such a fascinating turn of events! I wouldn't mind seeing what these ''alternate versions'' of Vegeta and Sangoku are like in this new universe of yours! Perhaps Yamoshi would've kept them close as his most trusted warriors?
4:00 - 4:13 I was dying from laughing at that, although the why it's always Earth, I could get into the criteria that make Earth a pretty ideal location to hide or dispose of something like that buuuuut, I think that is something that could be better used in a video of my own.
I've always wondered what would happen if buu were ever to release those kais. We know from when goku and vegeta were freed that solid versions of these characters exist inside buu somewhere, and am kind of surprised supreme kai didn't ask buu if there was any way of freeing his brethren when buu turned good.
All of "What Ifs" that weren't finished: What if Trunks was stuck in past? Part 2 What if Kid Goku went Super Saiyan? Part 2 What if Vegeta was the first Super Saiyan? Part 4 What if Future Gohan survived? Part 3 What if Vegito stayed fused? Part 4 What if Goku Married Bulma? Part 11 What if Nappa turned Good? Part 12 What if Piccolo never saved Gohan? Part 3 What if Gine went with Goku to Earth? Part 10 What if Broly turned Good? Part 6 What if Goku was Female? Part 6 What if Frieza saw Vegeta's potential? Part 3 What if Bardock convinced the Saiyans? Part 5 What if Cell turned Good? Part 7 What if Gohan went Super Saiyan early? Part 3 What if Frieza listened to Goku? Part 3 What if Friaza & Doctor Gero teamed up? Part 3 What if Future Ranch went to the Past? Part 2 What if Trunks met Kid Bulma? Part 3 What if Hercule trained with Roshi? Part 3 What if Goku defeated Roshi? Part 3 What if Goku was Evil? Part 2 What if The Supreme Kai wasn't Useless? Part 2
You know, since Shin is doing his job, would Universe 7 qualify for the one of the top 4 universe power levels, making them exempt from the tournament?
Yep
Possibly, we dont know how that scale works to be honest
if anything I think it would be in the top 5 or 7 most likely on par with its sibling universe
After the Tournament is over Zeno could make another tournament where only the Top 4 Universes participate without punishment for losing and the same prize in the form of a wish from the Super Dragon Balls.
@@Hektols i amsusprrised Zeno didn't do that in first place. there could be a waht if of "What if the tournament had incldued all universes?"
If Shin GOT HIS CRAP TOGETHER: The What-If Experience.
if Goku or Vegeta ever defeat Beerus i want Shin to teleport in and go to him YOU GOT KNOCKED THE F*** OUT
Tfs would deliver.
Goku: Bye supreme kai! We're gonna go get as strong as beerus you're boring! *teleports Vegeta to whis to train with him*
Kibito: why... why did you let him go???
Shin: we're in the endgame now...
Smokey is that you?
@@elijahtoombs3524 without a doubt
He too scared tho
3:58 Well as Bardock put it
*_Why is this place so popular?_*
If supreme Kai stood up to beerus? You mean him being useful?
That would be shocking
Axl Magnus ye pretty much
Yeah, pretty much! (May change it to that or something like what you said. Good idea!)
@@MasakoX where's good cell ?
@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 there's no cell because they completely destroyed the RR army
Beerus:Are you objecting a God
Shin:Are you?
"I AM READY TO GO BACK TO MY HOME, NOW SEND ME BACK."
"Yup. You're ready, let's go."
"I WILL NOT TAKE NO FOR AN AN-Wait what?"
Lmao
What if Chi Chi traveled with Goku and co. after meeting them in Dragon Ball?
Get this trending!
This should become a what if
Yeah I'd love to see that.
Co?
@@the_real_idoit8166 abbreviation for “company “
If Yamoshi created an elite force of super saiyans and all the derelict worlds were being efficiently disposed of. Wouldn't that boost the mortal ranking of Universe 7?
Likely would, but for the sake of the What-If it probably won't be enough to get U7 completely out of the ToP; It may, however, boost how the other GoD's view U7, since Shin's guidance makes Beerus look good by proxy due to better mortal ranking.
Universe 11 had Pride Troopers and Universe 6 had the actual Elite force of Saiyan heroes, albeit not SSJs but confirmed to have higher battle potential in general anyway than U7 Saiyans. Even with all that, these universes still ended up in the ToP. Xeno only excempted the top 4 universes with the best Mortal Levels.
@@isabellerodil7124 The reason the Universes were at the ToP is because the destroyers and the Kais had not been active in their duties. We see this complacency come to bite back with Zamasu, Gowasu could have provided a more ample learning experience for Zamasu if he had actually bothered to show Zamasu the ways of creating new life that may thrive and why... Instead the only training Zamasu got was in how to make a gourmet tea 🍵 and take the same type of field trip that probably got Frieza to hate monkeys.
Can’t really do much with yamoshi since we don’t know much about him
@@isabellerodil7124 no the ones over a certain level
Ya know golden Freaza might still happen because if Freaza hears that someone defeated majin buu then he might come to the same conclusion he did in the original timeline, and that is to train.
Well we don't know if Frieza would ne the same im this scenario, with Frost Demons being forced to be more secretive Frieza could possibly become way more cunning and catious instead of acting like a spoiled brat who always got what he wanted.
with the namkions around as part of the protectors they would see his intentions and yamashi would destroy them
If I go you go. This could make a hilarious conflicting buddy duo show.
I would love an addition to this what if showing how different saiyan society and the saiyan characters are under Yamoshi's leadership, I can see them having a somewhat Stratocratic society where the military and government are the same.
King Vegeta 3- Lord/ General Vegeta
Bardock- Colonel Bardock
Vegeta 4- Commander Vegeta
Radiz- Sergeant Radiz
Kakarot- Private Kakarot
Same characters with slightly different personalities given the more stable but still competitive environment of the saiyans
You mean like the Turians from Mass Effect
Shin: I am done being a minority of protectors. I will do my job properly!
To be fair, he had an awesome character intro. Everything after is disappointing.
This is exactly how I wish Shin worked. Honestly it reminds me of the relationship of the Gods in universe 11
And what happened then?
Well in Universe 7 they say,
That Shin's tiny dragon balls,
Grew three sizes that day.
This is one of the most interesting what ifs. Really hoping for a second and third part
I think that it's possible for Dr Gero to survive the Saiyan assault like he did with Goku's. If so, his research would have likely gone down a similar path; ending in the creation of a being similar to Cell.
It would be interesting to see what plot line you could make with that in this new AU Masako.
I doubt it. You are talking about a much larger force of soldiers who are all stronger than Goku was, and also are more mature and understand about cleaning up.
Even then, this Gero doesn't have access to the same power as his alternate self. None of the Saiyans live on Earth and they don't have a reason to return post Red Ribbon. Also none of Dragonball happened really, so his version of Cell would have dna access to a hand full of fighters and almost none of them on the level of the Saiyans. Even Frieza doesn't exist the same way. So no visit to Earth for him. No King Piccolo being freed, the list goes on. So even if Cell does happen, Gero doesn't have the same genetics or data available to him. so his androids don't pack the same punch.
jabdazombie would there be tournaments tough? That was Gokus fault
@@haukness Tbh I am unfamiliar with the manner in which he survived Goku's assault, haven't watched the original DB myself. I assume though it was because he was in an underground secret lab that Goku missed, I don't think its unreasonable to assume the Saiyans could miss that same lab.
@@charliesmith1358 no he wouldn't. He didn't start collecting DNA until after Goku had destoryed the army, plus we see his bots collecting dna and data all of that would be post Saiyans like during his tournament fights and none of those happened and they'd never have a reason to return to Earth to give him another chance. Cell might still happen, but he happens without any of the data or DNA that made the original as dangerous.
As for the infinite engines, I'd argue those also might not exist or at least not in the same form. The same way 17 and 18 were leagues weaker in the future than their present day selves after Trunk's intervention, this 17 and 18 would be created with signifigantly less data collected by Gero. And the data was the reason his androids were so powerful, because he knew what he needed them to match or succeed in terms of power. In this timeline he has almost none of that.
Most likely beerus would have just got pissed and sealed him somewhere
THE DRAGON KNIGHT SLAYER64 Doubtful He’s fine unless he dies.
The link with Beerus has to/must be with Old Kai.
Besides, Old Kai only *looks* as old as he does due to him fusing with an old witch. If he didn't, he would still look very young.
I got one good question could old kai actually be beerus link??
I don't know if Zeno/The Grand Priest/Whis would be happy to see that the Destroyer of U7 keeps sealing his "colleagues".
World Of Versus I think Beerus would be relieved Shin ain't a pussy anymore.
What if Goku landed in the Brief family yard and grow up as Bulmas little brother
1. Goku can get a hit on the head buy machine in the lab
2. Actually have an education pretty sure they wouldn't leave him dumb I mean the Saiyan race should be pretty smart when it comes to some technology like his Saiyan pod and how to operate it
3. Goku can have a different name maybe he can be named Trunks instead by young Bulma it could be cute
4. When Bulma can take Goku on her journey so it could almost be the same but when they learn about the great ape can be fun part to itself
5. They could realize he was alien waaaaaaay earlier
6. Goku can have brawns and Brains like an early Gohan (who would have a different name) and maybe be a better husband and parent and NOT be poor
Plus when they go searching for the 4 star Dragon Ball they can meet Grandpa Gohan and have Goku trained by both him and Master Roshi. Which I imagine would jumpstart his love of not just the adventure but fighting. Still no idea how they would manage Great Ape form since it would probably happen before going to collect the dragon balls like it did when Goku was with Grandpa Gohan.
This is actually interesting to see how it would change.
@@ducktordoom1398 Dimple Bulma uses technology sje use her shrinking device to make him smaller.
We can't forget about data from the saiyan pod.
@@lowpacker6126 I also think a Superman Red Sun kind of story like if Goku was found by the Red Ribbon Army and not hit his head and maybe turned into an Android and be REALLY strong
Have to agree that if the remaining supreme kai of universe 7 stood up to Beerus then that’d be more entertaining especially considering he’d end up growing a backbone
What if King Kai trained the humans & Piccolo better than the anime. (Meaning giving Yamcha ki claws for his wolf fang fist etc)
But would he train the humans to learn the kaio ken?
@@lordhades598 Tien would be the most likely to learn it, I don't think Yamcha could handle the strain of it, Chiaotsu wouldn't either, and Piccolo is Piccolo and wouldn't participate.
Can you imagine if King Kai had taught all of them the spirt bomb?! Even if they couldn't complete with the likes of Cell and Buu, they could stand on the outskirts like they always do and just summon 3 spirt bombs, or hell, a massive one they create together.
@@countcr33per
Lol, if Chi Chi can handle the strain of kaio ken, Yamcha most definitely can.
@@williamcortelyou4524 pretty sure Chi Chi is just stronger than Yamcha, despite not training anymore. I mean, would you wanna be on the bad side of the woman?
This was a great 'What If', I'd love to see where it goes. I think the Universe 7 team would maybe be filled with more Saiyans due to Yamoshi (maybe) teaching the Saiyan God Ritual and further training to the Sadala Saiyans to protect the world. Maybe even have access to the various Super Saiyan stages through enough training. Super Saiyans 1, 2, 3 and 4; Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan God Evolution and even the Berserker Saiyan could be perfected and tamed to be forces for good.
It would DEFINITELY put Beerus in his place as he sees THAT MANY powerful beings that could rival him and make him stop napping, the Frost clan would be terrified at this power and be kept under watch.
And if the 'Saiyan Galactic Patrol' travels to Earth, there might be an interplanetary alliance and peace with them, even Human-Saiyan hybrids born and living in peace. Heck, Earth might be the best place for them to retire and have families.
Honestly you mentioning the berserker sayian really wants me to see the regular ssj and maybe even a berserker sayian shoe up in this what if
Humans training with sayians we might get stronger humans
People like yamcha, tien, and krillon would integrate well with the Saiyans perhaps taking Saiyan wife's honestly if shin is using the Saiyans as peacekeepers from that early on its likely that they would be one of the highest for mortal levels and with the involvement of the namekion and humans you would have an unrivaled squad of universe defenders the frost clan would be found out quick because of the namekions abilitys to see the hearts of others
@@duburakibaMuch like Universe 2, I think Universe 7 would have a team that would include Tuffles & Yardratians, Because the Tuffles' high tech machines, and the Yardratians' Instant Transmissions would be a welcomed inclusion into this What If's Galactic Patrol alongside the Saiyans, Humans and Namekians. You might even see some of Beerus/Champa/Dyspo's race, Jiren's Race, Magetta's race, etc. If Shin does his job, he won't have to only rely on the saiyans, and that'd be pretty interesting to see. Also I want to disagree with MasakoX in that the versions of Kakarot, Raditz, Vegeta would have different names/personalities, I say this considering there was at least 4 Vegetas, and the first one would've had to established the monarchy, and that a lot of saiyans look alike, I'd think there would be saiyans named Vegeta, Bardock, Kakarot, Broly, Raditz, etc, and high chance they would line up eventually. But I think the comment about them being different is compelling and interesting at least.
@Andrew Gray I'm just saying that we would still see Vegeta's lineage because they're major players. I think we would see their names and offspring, because they established a monarchy in canon, and have existed for at least 4 generations worth of Saiyans, and Saiyans can live long lives. They could be loyal to Yamoshi, they could have been snuffed out, who knows, but I'm just saying they have influence and I think they could've emerged somewhere during Yamoshi's usual era, or not soon after. Maybe their lineage goes back even farther, maybe there's a few Tarbles who were kings in between those 4 Vegetas, since those names seem to be thematically connected what with the "Vegetable" pun.
Ohhh I've been waiting for this "what if" for a while. As someone who used to really like Shin as a character (still kinda do), its nice to see that somebody cares enough to think of ways to improve him. I remember back when I first watched the Buu saga and felt annoyed by how he was brushed to one side so elder kai could take over. Thank you for this.
Masako you did shin dirty from What if shin Stood up to beerus to what if shin wasnt useless haha
"You had bacon-covered beef with Lord Shin and didn't invite me?!" -- Beerus, 2019
I think you're building to your own version of the Dragonball Multiverse manga. And I can't freaking wait. :D main timeline Goku meeting Good Guy Raditz would be AMAZING.
I actually really like this “what if”! It’s very interesting considering this time around we actually get to see shin DO SOMETHING! So with that being said thank you masako!
Finally dude is going to be useful.
Could you do a If the Ginyu force turned good?
They are...
Recoome will consider this.
Ginyu gets goku's body and his good boy juices make him good
Jakob Schleier no
Probably saving this for the next April Fools!
I would believe that the meeting of "Alter Goku" (other dude who have his role in this timeline) and his brother and what it would deal might attract the attention of the Saiyans. Would be interesting to see that point of view now that saiyans are good people. What would they do to that Earth Saiyan?
What if Piccolo was driven insane by Absorbing Nail, unable to handle the fusing of Identities. After the Frieza Saga, disgusted by the gap between him and Goku now, he goes to New Namek and begins to absorb the population, while abusing the Dragon Balls. Sets up a new Season during the three year Training during Android arc. I'd call it,
The Vampire-Demon King Piccolo Saga.
Dex: what if turles turned good
Masako:hold my tea 😂😂😂😂
Love the "What if's?" Stories. Can't wait for the next installment of this and if Goku married Bulma.
*Beerus kills Shin
Beerus: wait what have I done.
And what about Dr.Gero after the destruction of the Red Ribbon Army?
Surely he might be mad that some space alien just came here and made such disaster. How would he react to that, what actions will it do?
What Cell, if it is z project, will have as new DNA?
So many questions!
Omg this what if, just spawned into like 10 different wha ifs ...
Guys we need Masako to see this upvote Shapeshift_Moon's comment as much as possible bring it to the top!!!!
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Imagine the confusion if Future Trunks popped up in this world!
What if King Kai was the supreme Kai?
Small planets everywhere and long life the Kaioken
"Let's stop talking about food for your tummy..." - that's gonna be hard since I'm about to eat.
What if Goku accepted wihs offer to become the next G.O.D after Battle of Gods
That might be interesting
Didn’t vegeta say yes to the offer so he could train with whis.
Saw the what if and was immediately like: "this is the most needed what if ever!!!"
I love Shin. He is one of my favorite characters. Glad to see you doing him proper justice. But on the topic of Supreme Kai what-ifs... What if ALL the U7 kais survived Buu?
Nice vid love your vid’s
Can't wait for a part 2 to this! This What If completely changes Dragon Ball on a fundamental level, and I love it!
What if Frieza and Cooler were on good terms, intead of ya know, hating each other's guts?
Nice Harry Enfield reference in the intro!
Dang, this is a really good idea; watching all your what if’s, I think “he’s gotta be running out of ideas soon” but this one really shows you haven’t, I really enjoy this one Masako! Keep up the good work 🤙🏽
Oh... "What if the Z warriors wished for the saiyan spaceships to break?"
"Suprised pikachu face"
Or wish to remove the oxygen from the pods,that would be sick
No one listens to Shenlong.
I was thinking more or less they end up on a planet
To be fair with Shin, his training wasn't complete.
From my understanding only universe 7 has the cardinal supreme kais but for a reason.
The credit goes to channel orgulho Saiyajin for the theory that i agree a lot.
The theory says that the 4 were aprentice supreme kais from each quadrant of the universe (N, S, W and E) and the Grand Supreme Kai was watching their progress to select his sucessor.
And it appears that he saw more potential in shin as we see the together. However, Majim Boo strikes resulted on the death of the North and West supreme kais, the aprentices.
As well as the absorption of the Grand Supreme kai and the South Supreme Kai (this one beying stated to be the strongest at the time).
IF you want to see this way: There was a university teacher and 4 students, the teacher retired and the other 3 were gone, the 1 left had to start working without properly completing his training.
That is why Elder Kai is still arround, he is finishing the trainid the Grand Supreme Kai couldn't. Advising Shin on how to properly proceed.
Now that we have this understanding, let's remember something... Beerus (and yes even Whis) are at fault too. Shin might be bad at his job, but that's because of lack of experience, this will improve over time with Elder Kai's assistance. Now let's talk about beerus
Beerus is the destroyer god, and is much more experienced than shin when it comes to do his job. Beerus is just lazy, it's different than incompetency. Not to mean the criteria used by beerus to destroy planets is sometimes questionable. Think, he sleeps a lot, this allowed Majim Boo, to start destroying planets, or did you forget he destroyed MANY in a roll?Frieza and the sayans caused many of the universe planets and mortals with potential to not develop and cease to exist too. And when he is awake what do he do? Attempt to destroy a planet because of food, and once he even destroyed HALF of a planet, think on how colapsed it became. So basically, the inaction of beerus and his terrible choosing for which plaent to destroy, agravates the situation.
And now comes Whis. Is it true that the angels must remain neutral all the time, but as such, whis is bellow and above beerus in hierarchy twice and ultimatelly is supposed to be the Universe's guardian. How can he allow his destroyer to go out of line in that way? He is smarted, he knows the rules, and has more than enough power to put beerus in line. Sure he cannot fire beerus, but at least could he say "My lord, are you sure? Despite the problems faced this planet is growing well and destroying half of it would unnecessarily put many of innocent lives at misery for the loss of their loved ones they care about. The final decision is up to you." you see? At least ADVISE him when in his view a injustice could be.
Planet vegeta's destruction wasn't much of a baaad thing as example of right criteria, as the saiyans weere causing unbalacing in the universe by destroying worlds. Tho not all of them were bad, and another solutions could be made such as beerus using hakai on the evil ones, or frieza, by far the most cruel beying in the multiverse.
So in conclusion, for the balance to come, should shin get it more seriously and effectivelly? yes, and he is under assistance of elder kai for it. But if a destroyer and his angel don't cooperate, it's hard to do anything. And i say more: Should shin become a GREAT supreme kai, and beerus jeopardize his job, if i were shin, i'd talk to beerus confronting him AND whis. And if they don't will to cooperate, i'd report the issues directly to the Grand Priest, so it could be handled by him (as the Omnikings would probably erase Universe 7 as they tend to be immature on their actions, and in THAT case, there's nothing GP can do).
Long text i know. But i hope it made things clear. Also this is just my opinion, nobody is forced to agree with me, i just wish some respect, thanks for reading :D
What if buu woke up during trunk's final fight with the androids?
Supreme battle royale, honestly a really cool idea.
@@arcticwiz2249 thank you :)
deth
Lol just watch super
Problem is, androids don’t give off energy and trunks finished that fight fast. Sealed ball probably wouldn’t open
Babidi and Moro would certainly meet in Galactic Patrol Custody. Two dangerous wizards being able to coordinate much like Gero and Myuu did in GT sounds very interesting.
loved the intro lol - 'hula hoops are round there staying round and they'll be around foreva!!' hahaha
Thank you so much for this! My joy literally can't be contained. I've been asking for this in the comments on and off for over a year. I was grinning the whole time. I love you so very much now Masako. Well, more then I did. Not much more, cuz it was alot. You probably didn't see those comments, and probably won't see this one, but here's a thank you note thrown into the sea of comments like a message in a bottle anyways.
Love this one mate. Just finished rewatching the Buu saga and Shin does start off so cool... then... you know 😅
Thanks for always posting these! When your having a terrible day it is always nice to sit down relax and listen to a great what if!
This is such a cool alternate universe concept, and you've fleshed it out beautifully! Well done, Masako!
You know rewatching this I’d have to wonder about a couple of things one if U7 would even be in the Tournament of Power with Shin working hard and the frost demons a non-issue the mortal levels of U7 might be high enough to grant immunity secondly what about U6 after seeing the vast improvements of U7 Champa would likely demand a similar system be put in place in his universe and since he likely still has all his kais they could do an even better job than U7 raising their mortal levels thus the rivalry between brothers improves 6 which prompts 7 to improve and restore kais to their positions possibly even using the dragon balls to do so thus 6 & 7 continuously improves itself as each one striving to have a better universe than the other
Now with Daima, we get to see Shin do stuff for real!
What if Black and Zamasu turned on one another and never fused?
This went from a Discussion video to Roasting Shin XD
I always saw Shin as an inept manager that had no business having his job.
when i think of the relation between supreme kais and GoDs it reminds me of the tree of might probably a borrowed concept from the movie when he stated kais as fruit people.
Yess finally!
(In another timeline there must be a "If Sakura wasn't useless" video >_>)
That feel when Yamoshi literally becomes the God Emperor of the Saiyans :D
That's easy. Shin and Beerus would complain to each other until they admit they gay for each other
Not what I thought it was going to be but very entertaining personally
I thought it was going to be Shin growing a pair stepping up and using potara fusion on Kid Buu to end the threat
Really interesting video Masoko! I can't wait for part 2 to see where this can lead
What a fun premise!
Funny thing is with this, you can work around SOME of the original DB characters (such as Bulma, Yamcha, Chi-Chi, Krillin etc) re-imagining almost altogether their lives... while at the same time come up with equivalents for the Saiyan characters such as Goku, Raditz, Vegeta, Nappa ecc but with completely different names, circumstances, genders... basically creating completely new OCs to fit this What If!
It really gives foot to a LOT of creativity to come in play!
he doesn't want any beef with beerus especially after he met the elder kai 😂😂😂
As always, your What-Ifs are very well-thought out and insightful!
Most interesting What If in a long long time. I'm interested in seeing what you can do with this masako. Can't wait for your Xeno "GT" Grand Tournament
I guess you can say, Shin lost the shine in his eye.
Yaaaaasssss between this and what if Goku never turned good my “what if” itch has been scratched. Keep up the good work
15:39 BUT MASAKO Goku didn't gave him the idea
Krillin hears the word spaceduck
faint quacking can be heard across the universe
I really like these What Ifs that go way out of established canon. Keep up the great work.
Beerus:sleeps and eats instead of being a destroier.
Whis:finds someone else to become a destroier.
Beerus:surprised Pikachu face*
This is probably my favourite What if you have ever made
This was dope! Very fan fiction but one of the most interesting what ifs in the entire dragon ball community from the last few months! Let’s see more parts. I’d love to see how yamoshi would influence the z fighters and what new threats would rise up!
Please do more of this. It was awesome!
What if Lord Guru gave his power to Nail by fusing with him on Namek?
I was waiting for this! About time!
What if the Supreme Kai wasn't
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
I get it
What if should of been, “If the Supreme Kai did his job.”
Hay masako would you consider doing a video on picalo. Everyone loves saiyans but I have an idea for a video. The idea is that picalo has a son of his own you know besides gohan, as we have seen picalo has some paternal instincts and after fusing with nail his personality became a little bit kind . I think that the kids name should be chanter witch is a smaller version of the bagpipes continuing with the whole instrument naming theme. : )
I think this is more chill than the other what ifs
This is way more cooler and interesting than i thought it would be i really hope you carry this on and eventually have the Z fighters included with Goku and Vegeta in what ever incarnation they become in
Kais are meant to observe, not interfere...
So they’re essentially the Watchers.
"You were talking up all that good s*** then you got kicked in yo chest" you get sealed in a sword!
This was an AMAZING what if! One of my favorites by far! Cant WAIT to see more 🙂💜
Well, that's a fresh idea, that's for sure ! It's nearly a completely new story and i really like this idea, wondering where it'll get us
really like this cenario, you should do a series of it!
Between the video I thought that mortal population level will become very high to the point shin can't visit every planet so he leave some planets under thier hero protection. While remaining evil saiyan that survive defect to planet vegeta which and they become much softer like In DBS broly movie. Following event of db - dbz cell saga will be played while Shin just grab some popcorn and watch the show.
I love how straight to the point the title is! XD
This is such a fascinating turn of events!
I wouldn't mind seeing what these ''alternate versions'' of Vegeta and Sangoku are like in this new universe of yours! Perhaps Yamoshi would've kept them close as his most trusted warriors?
4:00 - 4:13 I was dying from laughing at that, although the why it's always Earth, I could get into the criteria that make Earth a pretty ideal location to hide or dispose of something like that buuuuut, I think that is something that could be better used in a video of my own.
I've always wondered what would happen if buu were ever to release those kais. We know from when goku and vegeta were freed that solid versions of these characters exist inside buu somewhere, and am kind of surprised supreme kai didn't ask buu if there was any way of freeing his brethren when buu turned good.
This is a new version of What Ifs
This is an excellent What If. Please, continue it.
All of "What Ifs" that weren't finished:
What if Trunks was stuck in past? Part 2
What if Kid Goku went Super Saiyan? Part 2
What if Vegeta was the first Super Saiyan? Part 4
What if Future Gohan survived? Part 3
What if Vegito stayed fused? Part 4
What if Goku Married Bulma? Part 11
What if Nappa turned Good? Part 12
What if Piccolo never saved Gohan? Part 3
What if Gine went with Goku to Earth? Part 10
What if Broly turned Good? Part 6
What if Goku was Female? Part 6
What if Frieza saw Vegeta's potential? Part 3
What if Bardock convinced the Saiyans? Part 5
What if Cell turned Good? Part 7
What if Gohan went Super Saiyan early? Part 3
What if Frieza listened to Goku? Part 3
What if Friaza & Doctor Gero teamed up? Part 3
What if Future Ranch went to the Past? Part 2
What if Trunks met Kid Bulma? Part 3
What if Hercule trained with Roshi? Part 3
What if Goku defeated Roshi? Part 3
What if Goku was Evil? Part 2
What if The Supreme Kai wasn't Useless? Part 2