I forgot if it was in the latest master plan or earnings report. But there is mention of battery powered ships and aircrafts. Also in a prior conference maybe a year or two ago Elon did mention that battery powered aircrafts are a possibility but at the time (1-2 years ago) not quite feasible yet due to energy density of batteries. He even hinted that he does have some sort of aircraft design in his mind. So he’s simply waiting for the right moment to make these future product announcements. Why would Tesla only make cars, trucks, semis? All modes of transportation can go electric (with the only exception of rockets).
I think Elon will apply autonomy toward all modes of transport at some point. Why not right? Remember, the same computer for FSD in the car will also be used in the Optimus bot. Which means that same system can be used to learn how to fly an evtol, navigate a ship, etc. Basically it can learn the same way as it does driving. It is simply a different form of transport but it is all still vision based.
I do think the evtol will replace current short haul flights at least at the beginning (maybe anything from 1 - 4 hour flights). Why you ask? I will use an example from personal experience. I used to fly from Vancouver B.C. Canada to Prince George, B.C. The total distance is about 1000km. In a car, I would have to drive 9-10 hours. Taking a short haul flight takes one hour. However the whole process of going to the airport, going through security, etc. Easily adds another 1-2 hrs on top of it. So in total, I have wasted 3 hours of my time. It is still faster than driving but still not as convenient nearly as efficient and trouble free as it could be. Now imagine yourself or your car driving autonomously to the evtol station which is nothing more than a parking lot plus a pad with a few VTOL’s there. You get out of your car, hop into the vtol and off you go. The evtol flies itself on a predetermined course autonomously to your destination, it lands itself, you get out and into the robotaxi waiting there to take you to your hotel or wherever you’re headed. Isn’t that way more efficient and smooth?
I don’t think long-range jets will be the first aviation product. Again back to energy density. You need a lot of batteries for the amount of energy needed for long range flights, hence it’s a matter of waiting for battery tech to advance even more so they can use less batteries (with higher energy density) before that will be feasible.
You litterally have opened my mind and made me rethink the whole project, I really get where your coming from and completely agree with the points you made, thank you mate!!
@2:00 Musk says there aren’t any car companies which are also aircraft companies. Toyota is now heavily partnered and invested in JOBY so there is that fact that he glossed over. Musk is enamored with Lilium, according to previous statements and Lilium is now going bankrupt due to many factors including technical issues and design flaws, not just financial difficulties. He is probably embarrassed by the whole subject of eVTOLs given the current situation.
Not worried about Tesla with self driving. Evtol market cuts down travel time which self driving cars cannot. I’m sure self driving will definitely take jobs aware from Uber drivers etc. You won’t have to deal with human physical needs. I believe archer will be successful if they are affordable to a good percentage of the population and not just the 1 percent elite.
@@josephmarino864 yeah I seen that, do we think once it is up and running it will stay around this price and then I would like to know what range of flight they quoting these prices for, it’s just an interesting thought
Hi mate they are part of the third row podcast team their names are Sofiaan Fraval - teslasof.com Steve Jobs Ghost - wholemars.net Vincent Yu - www.tesmanian..... Vivien Hantusch - www.vivien.space/ Kristen K10 -  / kristennetten Galileo Russell -  / hyperchanget
He could just start from scratch and be immediately on par with them. They don't have any groundbreaking patents. The main hurdle is the battery and when one exists that lets it be possible then he could fast track an evtol.
he thought a hyperloop would be easy to make so if he thinks evtol will be difficult then that must mean impossible. He is very optimistic, we should have been to mars by now according to his past predictions.
Great video!!
Thanks a million for the support mate! The community is growing!
I forgot if it was in the latest master plan or earnings report. But there is mention of battery powered ships and aircrafts. Also in a prior conference maybe a year or two ago Elon did mention that battery powered aircrafts are a possibility but at the time (1-2 years ago) not quite feasible yet due to energy density of batteries. He even hinted that he does have some sort of aircraft design in his mind. So he’s simply waiting for the right moment to make these future product announcements. Why would Tesla only make cars, trucks, semis? All modes of transportation can go electric (with the only exception of rockets).
I think I seen that interview I must dig it up, do you think he would go specifically for auto taxi type evtol or actual long range jets? Or both?
I think Elon will apply autonomy toward all modes of transport at some point. Why not right? Remember, the same computer for FSD in the car will also be used in the Optimus bot. Which means that same system can be used to learn how to fly an evtol, navigate a ship, etc. Basically it can learn the same way as it does driving. It is simply a different form of transport but it is all still vision based.
I do think the evtol will replace current short haul flights at least at the beginning (maybe anything from 1 - 4 hour flights). Why you ask? I will use an example from personal experience. I used to fly from Vancouver B.C. Canada to Prince George, B.C. The total distance is about 1000km. In a car, I would have to drive 9-10 hours. Taking a short haul flight takes one hour. However the whole process of going to the airport, going through security, etc. Easily adds another 1-2 hrs on top of it. So in total, I have wasted 3 hours of my time. It is still faster than driving but still not as convenient nearly as efficient and trouble free as it could be. Now imagine yourself or your car driving autonomously to the evtol station which is nothing more than a parking lot plus a pad with a few VTOL’s there. You get out of your car, hop into the vtol and off you go. The evtol flies itself on a predetermined course autonomously to your destination, it lands itself, you get out and into the robotaxi waiting there to take you to your hotel or wherever you’re headed. Isn’t that way more efficient and smooth?
I don’t think long-range jets will be the first aviation product. Again back to energy density. You need a lot of batteries for the amount of energy needed for long range flights, hence it’s a matter of waiting for battery tech to advance even more so they can use less batteries (with higher energy density) before that will be feasible.
You litterally have opened my mind and made me rethink the whole project, I really get where your coming from and completely agree with the points you made, thank you mate!!
@2:00 Musk says there aren’t any car companies which are also aircraft companies. Toyota is now heavily partnered and invested in JOBY so there is that fact that he glossed over. Musk is enamored with Lilium, according to previous statements and Lilium is now going bankrupt due to many factors including technical issues and design flaws, not just financial difficulties. He is probably embarrassed by the whole subject of eVTOLs given the current situation.
Wow that’s great. Bigger market.
Not worried about Tesla with self driving. Evtol market cuts down travel time which self driving cars cannot. I’m sure self driving will definitely take jobs aware from Uber drivers etc. You won’t have to deal with human physical needs. I believe archer will be successful if they are affordable to a good percentage of the population and not just the 1 percent elite.
yeah i agree with that, if they can make it where it is not just for the rich I think it will pop off
They’re projecting prices for flights $28-$36
@@josephmarino864 yeah I seen that, do we think once it is up and running it will stay around this price and then I would like to know what range of flight they quoting these prices for, it’s just an interesting thought
Who are the people he's with? I think it's fantastic that he makes himself available to so many people.
Hi mate they are part of the third row podcast team their names are Sofiaan Fraval - teslasof.com
Steve Jobs Ghost - wholemars.net
Vincent Yu - www.tesmanian.....
Vivien Hantusch - www.vivien.space/
Kristen K10 -  / kristennetten
Galileo Russell -  / hyperchanget
Why wouldn't Tesla just buy Achr or Joby if they wanted to get in the EVTOL space.
That’s a fair point mate! I do think Tesla would want to use their own technology from the start though
He could just start from scratch and be immediately on par with them. They don't have any groundbreaking patents. The main hurdle is the battery and when one exists that lets it be possible then he could fast track an evtol.
Good question, but he doesn't typically buy he builds from the ground up. No?
@philzail2532 he didn't found tesla. All the evtols are basically on the ground floor anyway
Musk is wrong - there ARE companies that manufacture both cars and aircraft: Saab and Mitsubishi (and soon to be Stellantis too).
he thought a hyperloop would be easy to make so if he thinks evtol will be difficult then that must mean impossible. He is very optimistic, we should have been to mars by now according to his past predictions.
I do think he can be a touch ambitious however I do think he will make it to mars within the next 5 years