I do the same with a stapler. Jack it up, leave the wheels and tires on, put a staple in a lug on each tire, measure the distance rotate tire 180* measure again. It's an old trick and your out the cost of two staples. If you have the "off road page" in the head unit (might be Rubicon only) it will give you steering angle in degrees. Makes it real easy to center the steering wheel to zero.
@@ron8975 I’ve done something similar with long levels but it wasn’t ideal, your way sounds like it works great as well. I’m just glad I won’t be paying anyone to basically just adjust my toe every time I wheel hard or replace a rod end. Thanks for watching Ron!
I showed how I setup my caster in my lift install video but that was coming from the longer Teraflex arms. It is pretty easy to check, place a digital angle finder on the flat circular section by your front differential cover to get a baseline. You can either lengthen or shorten your arms to dial it in, I would just do one arm at a time and only a couple turns and then recheck the angles. Hope this helps, thanks for watching the video!
Heck yeah! Interested to see your opinions of the hydro assist. The Apex Steering boost seems like it might be a good competitor as I have heard about slow turning from the assist setups. Curious also about the Apex steering boost WITH hydro assist. Maybe the best of both worlds?
I’ve been really happy with the hydro setup so far, it turns similar to stock but has a much firmer feel when hitting bumps and road imperfections. I think some of the reviews about slow steering are from the PSC setup that removes the electronic JL setup for a more traditional hydraulic system. I’ve also read the larger diameter the ram is the slower it turns, I believe that’s why WTO went with 1.5” instead of the 1.75” that comes with the PSC kit. I feel like it really is the best of both worlds and I’ve heard great reviews about the Apex and ram combo, might need to try it out. Thanks for watching the video!
On the Synergy tie rod you do, the factory tie rod has the silver adjustment collar on the driver side. The tie rod is all one piece and you’re just shortening it or lengthening it to draw the knuckles closer or farther out to set the toe. Hope this helps!
hello buddy I need your help I have the same problem I have had my jeep do alignment twice and it does not look good, I have exactly the same configuration as your jeep, could you give me the measurements of all your synergy steering to configure mine please. thanks, when you come back to tahuya let me know. thanks
I’ll take a look tomorrow but it is going to vary from Jeep to Jeep, when I swapped out the drag link I measured same as stock and it was off. I think that alignment tool is a very good investment if you have a Jeep. I’ll grab you some measurements, it will be a starting point. I hope to visit Tahuya again soon, I’d like to run some of the newer trails out there!
@@FROSTBITEOFFROAD let me check. because I recently changed the rear tires to the front and the steering wheel moves a little. thank you very much I hope one day soon you will come to tahuya and ride with you guys.
@@TheRamon0007 it could be a tire balance issue, if you swap them back again and it goes away you’ll have your answer. Yeah man a trip up there is definitely in order!
It won’t make a huge difference, but you would want to do the tie rod first, because the drag link is attached to the same knuckle and might move the steering wheel slightly. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching the video!
It’s not an exact science but this tool gets you within spec without having to pay for an alignment every time you go wheeling hard or change steering components. I just used it this weekend after I swapped out my TRE’s and I was glad I had it, I hope this helps thanks for watching Jon!
@@FROSTBITEOFFROAD A handful of 1/2-20 coupler nuts and some bolts (to thread into the couplers) would move that bracket out enough to level it. I have the same bracket but I also have spacers so it clears the caliper (even my much larger TeraFlex Delta setup). I'm not 100% sure level matters but considering 0.08 degrees toe is just 0.8mm difference front-to-back, it seems like it might matter.
You need to have the tool in perfect alignment with the vehicle Which isn't really possible so they can't work If it's up or down at either end the measurement will be out😢
You're correct but for checking it after a hard trail ride or new tie rod install, it gets you in the ballpark. It's a handy tool to have but doesn't replace an alignment rack. Thanks for watching the video!
OEM toe specifications are measured with the full weight of the vehicle on low-tension turnplates, with compensation for lateral runout. These steps ensure that tolerances in the wheel bearings, kingpins, and other articulations don’t compromise the accuracy or precision required. You’ve spent thousands modifying your vehicle, yet you’d rather waste your time and hand your money to the CCP instead of supporting a local business to have it done professionally.
This alignment tool is made in the USA and sold by a fellow Jeep enthusiast. This is also not a precision tool, it’s ment to get you close to specs after a day of smashing your tie rods into rocks. Larger tires will also require different amounts of toe than a stock vehicle, which is what most shops would set you at. I’ve also had several alignment shops not know how the adjustment sleeve on the Synergy tie rods work and ran it in like a jam nut. If you have the ability to check or adjust it yourself then you’re good, if not paying a quality off-road shop is the way to go. Thanks for watching the video!
@@FROSTBITEOFFROAD Firstly, I agree that skilled diagnostic alignment technicians are increasingly hard to find. I also agree that if 90% of your vehicle’s use is off-road, then strings and tape measures might suffice. However, modern alignment precision often deals with tolerances as fine as 1/32nd or even 1/64th of an inch. While your tool may claim 1/32nd resolution, I’d question whether even the 1/16th mark is plausible given the slack and compliance in the steering system, including tire shoulders. We’re essentially trying to measure a block of Jello, not a solid piece of steel-something your tool might handle well. As vehicle speed increases, so does the need for precision. This is why your manufacturer triggers the “ESC Disabled” warning light when your steering angle sensor or related systems fall out of calibration. This warning signals that a safety-critical system designed to save lives is no longer functional, and the manufacturer effectively absolves itself of liability. For example, on highway exit ramps, ABS activation can occur because the steering angle sensor and yaw sensor aren’t aligned with the wheel speed sensor. In some cases, vehicles will enter limp mode, limiting speed, when certain thresholds are exceeded. Your JL will do it as well you just haven’t surpassed that threshold yet.
Just got that Steer Smarts alignment tool from North Ridge 4x4 they have the best price How do you like that Fox steering stabilizer any issues ? Been looking at the Fox race series ATS.
Nice, I like buying from Northridge. I liked the Fox stabilizer for what it was, I went to hydro assist after my Moab trip. The JL seemed to really need the extra steering help in the rough stuff. Thanks for watching the video!
I’m excited about being able to check my alignment now after a trail ride, let me know if you guys have something similar.
I do the same with a stapler. Jack it up, leave the wheels and tires on, put a staple in a lug on each tire, measure the distance rotate tire 180* measure again. It's an old trick and your out the cost of two staples.
If you have the "off road page" in the head unit (might be Rubicon only) it will give you steering angle in degrees. Makes it real easy to center the steering wheel to zero.
@@ron8975 I’ve done something similar with long levels but it wasn’t ideal, your way sounds like it works great as well. I’m just glad I won’t be paying anyone to basically just adjust my toe every time I wheel hard or replace a rod end. Thanks for watching Ron!
I've been using those alignment tools for about 2 years now. Saves so much time and money.
It really is handy to have especially when we bang our steering around on the rocks, thanks for watching the video Stan!
Old video but I bought these and they work great. Thanks for the vid! Happy Jeeping! Be safe!
Thanks, you too!
great video, thanks! I'm buying the alignment kit right now
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
My steering wheel was off after Moab last year. It was the thrust angle. Nice Vid!
Yeah a week of wheeling can be hard on a front end, thanks for watching man!
do you have a video on how to adjust caster after a 3 " lift with adjustable lower control arm? thanks
I showed how I setup my caster in my lift install video but that was coming from the longer Teraflex arms. It is pretty easy to check, place a digital angle finder on the flat circular section by your front differential cover to get a baseline. You can either lengthen or shorten your arms to dial it in, I would just do one arm at a time and only a couple turns and then recheck the angles. Hope this helps, thanks for watching the video!
Heck yeah! Interested to see your opinions of the hydro assist. The Apex Steering boost seems like it might be a good competitor as I have heard about slow turning from the assist setups.
Curious also about the Apex steering boost WITH hydro assist. Maybe the best of both worlds?
I’ve been really happy with the hydro setup so far, it turns similar to stock but has a much firmer feel when hitting bumps and road imperfections. I think some of the reviews about slow steering are from the PSC setup that removes the electronic JL setup for a more traditional hydraulic system. I’ve also read the larger diameter the ram is the slower it turns, I believe that’s why WTO went with 1.5” instead of the 1.75” that comes with the PSC kit. I feel like it really is the best of both worlds and I’ve heard great reviews about the Apex and ram combo, might need to try it out. Thanks for watching the video!
Good info !
Thanks man!
Question, so you set the toe on the passenger side, do you now go over to the driver side and set the toe there as well?
On the Synergy tie rod you do, the factory tie rod has the silver adjustment collar on the driver side. The tie rod is all one piece and you’re just shortening it or lengthening it to draw the knuckles closer or farther out to set the toe. Hope this helps!
So for standard rubicon JL you need toe in? how many degrees?
It’s usually 1/8-1/4 depending on tire size, hope this helps thanks for watching!
@@FROSTBITEOFFROAD you mean 1/4 1/8 inches using that tool, right?
@@samsaraAI2025 yes, that’s the amount of toe in you want to shoot for on a Jeep.
are your jack stands extra length? i got the 3 tons but it's not comfortably tall enough
I have the Harbor Freight 6 ton ones, they are significantly taller than their 3 ton ones. Thanks for watching the video!
hello buddy I need your help I have the same problem I have had my jeep do alignment twice and it does not look good, I have exactly the same configuration as your jeep, could you give me the measurements of all your synergy steering to configure mine please. thanks, when you come back to tahuya let me know. thanks
I’ll take a look tomorrow but it is going to vary from Jeep to Jeep, when I swapped out the drag link I measured same as stock and it was off. I think that alignment tool is a very good investment if you have a Jeep. I’ll grab you some measurements, it will be a starting point. I hope to visit Tahuya again soon, I’d like to run some of the newer trails out there!
So I got 60 15/16 inches for the tie rod, that’s measuring from grease zerk to grease zerk. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions!
@@FROSTBITEOFFROAD let me check. because I recently changed the rear tires to the front and the steering wheel moves a little. thank you very much I hope one day soon you will come to tahuya and ride with you guys.
@@TheRamon0007 it could be a tire balance issue, if you swap them back again and it goes away you’ll have your answer. Yeah man a trip up there is definitely in order!
Why not put steering when straight then just adjust the toe ?
It won’t make a huge difference, but you would want to do the tie rod first, because the drag link is attached to the same knuckle and might move the steering wheel slightly. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching the video!
I was under the impression the toe brackets have to be level -- which is annoying because the control arms prevent a straight line in back.
It’s not an exact science but this tool gets you within spec without having to pay for an alignment every time you go wheeling hard or change steering components. I just used it this weekend after I swapped out my TRE’s and I was glad I had it, I hope this helps thanks for watching Jon!
@@FROSTBITEOFFROAD A handful of 1/2-20 coupler nuts and some bolts (to thread into the couplers) would move that bracket out enough to level it. I have the same bracket but I also have spacers so it clears the caliper (even my much larger TeraFlex Delta setup). I'm not 100% sure level matters but considering 0.08 degrees toe is just 0.8mm difference front-to-back, it seems like it might matter.
@@jonmcguire228 I’m sure it does make a small difference, the spacer idea sounds like it would be a good idea if you need it exact.
You need to have the tool in perfect alignment with the vehicle
Which isn't really possible so they can't work
If it's up or down at either end the measurement will be out😢
You're correct but for checking it after a hard trail ride or new tie rod install, it gets you in the ballpark. It's a handy tool to have but doesn't replace an alignment rack. Thanks for watching the video!
OEM toe specifications are measured with the full weight of the vehicle on low-tension turnplates, with compensation for lateral runout. These steps ensure that tolerances in the wheel bearings, kingpins, and other articulations don’t compromise the accuracy or precision required.
You’ve spent thousands modifying your vehicle, yet you’d rather waste your time and hand your money to the CCP instead of supporting a local business to have it done professionally.
This alignment tool is made in the USA and sold by a fellow Jeep enthusiast. This is also not a precision tool, it’s ment to get you close to specs after a day of smashing your tie rods into rocks. Larger tires will also require different amounts of toe than a stock vehicle, which is what most shops would set you at. I’ve also had several alignment shops not know how the adjustment sleeve on the Synergy tie rods work and ran it in like a jam nut. If you have the ability to check or adjust it yourself then you’re good, if not paying a quality off-road shop is the way to go. Thanks for watching the video!
@@FROSTBITEOFFROAD Firstly, I agree that skilled diagnostic alignment technicians are increasingly hard to find. I also agree that if 90% of your vehicle’s use is off-road, then strings and tape measures might suffice. However, modern alignment precision often deals with tolerances as fine as 1/32nd or even 1/64th of an inch. While your tool may claim 1/32nd resolution, I’d question whether even the 1/16th mark is plausible given the slack and compliance in the steering system, including tire shoulders.
We’re essentially trying to measure a block of Jello, not a solid piece of steel-something your tool might handle well. As vehicle speed increases, so does the need for precision. This is why your manufacturer triggers the “ESC Disabled” warning light when your steering angle sensor or related systems fall out of calibration. This warning signals that a safety-critical system designed to save lives is no longer functional, and the manufacturer effectively absolves itself of liability.
For example, on highway exit ramps, ABS activation can occur because the steering angle sensor and yaw sensor aren’t aligned with the wheel speed sensor. In some cases, vehicles will enter limp mode, limiting speed, when certain thresholds are exceeded. Your JL will do it as well you just haven’t surpassed that threshold yet.
Bro, 99% of jeeps are stock.
So you have these performance parts that make no sense to 99% of people.
That may be true but 100% of Jeep’s need an alignment at some point. Thanks for watching the video!
Just got that Steer Smarts alignment tool from North Ridge 4x4 they have the best price How do you like that Fox steering stabilizer any issues ? Been looking at the Fox race series ATS.
Nice, I like buying from Northridge. I liked the Fox stabilizer for what it was, I went to hydro assist after my Moab trip. The JL seemed to really need the extra steering help in the rough stuff. Thanks for watching the video!