A Weird Upgrade Every Sprinter Owner Needs
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Why is my turbo leaking oil? why is there oil leaking from my sprinter's engine? These are all the ways in which sprinter turbos can be misdiagnosed and replaced by mechanics unnecessarily. Do not replace your turbo if that is recommended by a mechanic. Turbo charger oil leaks usually get misdiagnosed by mechanics when really the pcv valve is leaking. sometimes this causes Limp Mode and P0299 codes. sprinter specialist explains common problems with sprinter vans and common problems with sprinter van turbos.
Another solution which would be 100 times better. Is a sealed system catch can. Where you can capture the oil and drain it out at regular intervals, and you wouldn't get the smell, or oil spraying off that filter when it gets soaked. Catch can kit is about $50 for a Chinese brand, they work as intended.
Can you link to this solution?
@@jonathandavis3754 Try internet.
I have a 2014 cla250 and I’m having this problem right now. Looks like oil is coming out the intercooler hose that attaches to the turbo. I only have problems when I accelerate fast or hard or go fast speeds. I’m so over it. I don’t know what to do for this model
After a week of breathing that in you will look for another solution in form of Mann Provent oil catch can. I did this exact mod before the catch can on my om642 ML and you could see fumes coming out of the hood and grill.
Not to mention that “blow by” was calculated in to the ecu with mass airflow sensor and adequate amount of extra fuel was ordered.
Boris, could you send me a link to an oil catch can that works? I'd love to try, to be fair the ML /GL om642 is quite tightly crammed into the space so perhaps fumes escaping into the air cabinet could be a problem. Id recommend extending the hose further under the chasis if this is the case. regarding the ecu accounting for this volume, it is only a half truth in that it is picked up by the charge pressure sensor but the map and maf sensors allow for some variance (10% I believe) to differ between the pre turbo pressure sensor and the post turbo sensor. ultimately it will cause the engine to run leaner and more economical if any meaningful change at all
ML is a daily but the sprinter is a camper which is only used few times a year so i left that alone. UA-cam doesn’t allow links but you can easily find it Mann provent 200.
@@borisb2367 yea, I took a look, maybe I will try that one out. on another note: anything you feel needs to be covered in a video as far as sprinter repairs?
@@sprinterfix my 2009 Jeep CRD I found a kit that you welded into the exhaust pipe. Fumes went right out the back
@@sprinterfix would love to see the provent installed on the 2006÷2009 years. Also one on wiring harnesses on top of the motor
The PCV delete/bypass (using a simple breather port like that) will fail an emissions test if you're in a region where that's relevant and the tester notices the modification, but otherwise this will work fine. So obviously for off-road or otherwise not road legal vehicles this would be a no brainer.
An actual design solution that would avoid this and maintain PCV function would've been to connect the crankcase breather downstream of the turbo's compressor outlet, so between the turbo and the intake manifold. You'd reduce turbo efficiency just slightly and likely increase crankcase pressure somewhat as well (due to turbo-compressed air pushing back against the flow through the PCV tube), but that should be such a minor issue as to be ignored in most cases, especially compared to what they actually did.
The only case you couldn't use that solution would be in a gasoline engine using a carburetor or single point fuel injection upstream of the turbo (or supercharger) in a draw-through configuration as you'd have fuel vapor + droplets in the compressed charge in that case which would thus contaminate the crankcase and oil. (but that's a nonexistent problem for modern commercial engines ... I suppose water injection upstream of the compressor intake would create a similar problem, with water vapor/droplets being pushed back into the crankcase, but also not a common feature)
You will have oil everywhere Bad idea Use hose run down Or use reservoir
😮 same setup on citroen dispatch 2.0hdi the rubber pcv valve is usless changed 3 in a year going to give it a try thanks
You must wash the tiny filter inside the crankcase breather first that will release the pressure inside the engine there in no point fitting and after market filter as the original is blocked there is to much oil going to the new aftermarket breather it a breather not an oil separator you will have a mess of oil everywhere and smell off burned oil in the cab in time I like your idea off blocking the fume pipe I have done that to with great success
It really feels like u didn’t watch or understand the video. If you can understand how the pressure actuated cc valve works u will understand why that’s not true
DON´T do it, your PCV not only bring Oil through the PCV, also fumes that smells like exhaust fumes
when you let the PCV goes directly to the filter, it always get the fumes in the engine bay, and also inside of the vehicle and you will breath it in...
BETTER: install a catch can, it separates the oil, and bring the fumes back to the intake
Do u have holes between your engine bay and your cab? I dont
@@sprinterfix cabin air filter breathes inside the internals of the hood on my 02 - at a stop you'd most certainly be putting your cabin air filter to use.
@@sprinterfix What? you can 100% smell the engine bay have you ever driven a car?
But , of course , a Catch Can is superior , and still EPA compliant . Those Fumes going directly to atmosphere is Illegal .
I don't disagree with what you're saying , but Legislators have made it more difficult .
Like EGR systems that are ENGINEERED to create Engine problems .
Bro sprinters supposed to have oil passing thru the turbo and intercooler, wtf u talking about
Define pass through?
not
Sprinter tech here. 100% true. Easiest way to find a boost leak is find the oil
Hi, just seen you video and Im wondering if it will be the same case on Mercedes Viano/ Vito 2013, 2.2CDI ? Is it the same set up?
If you sevice the engine correctly this would not happen. There is a breather filter shich should bd cleaned or replaced. Just as cheap.
May god increase your level in this life, for the good work you promote.
This may be a dumb question but why no mention of the engine's oil separator in this scenario> Doesn't it play a part in all this?
Not in this solution. I did however buy a catch can and will try that on another van if there is interest. In this one the inlet side is plugged so blowby is just released and not recirculated.
this breather upgrade kit is not showing available through Amazon. Any other options?
Apologies. I’ll be adding a new link soon
Need it now been 9 month
This is just lazy, replace it with the proper parts, it will create more issues, it's not that simple.
Are there specific directions to installing this breather? Total noob at this and want to get my head around how to do it right.
I just did one today with a GoPro on my head. Not sure if I caught the whole thing. Do u have oil leaks?
The link to this part said no longer available! Is there somewhere else I can get one?
1960s called and they want their mod back. 🤣
Awesome. 🎉thanks for doing the video. Nice of you to pass this gem along to the sprinter community.
I do my best. It’s comments like this that make me want to post more
Hi, just seen you video and Im wondering if it will be the same case on Mercedes Viano/ Vito 2013, 2.2CDI ? Is it the same set up?
likely, we don't have that engine in the US
Will this work on a 2004 sprinter??
Yes. One of the engines in the video is a 2005 inline five cylinder same as 2004. But if your engine has a lot of blowby then maybe extend the hose further away from your cabin air intake
@@sprinterfix any video of how to install a catch can on the 2004 sprinter, my engine has blowby and I see a little bit of oil in the intake manifold driver side
@@adrianzayas1942 I'll try and make one. give me a minute haha
I'll check that right away. Thx for the video!
Smog legal?
likely, I'll know soon enough as I am moving back to California. Catch can may be a better option, they're 20 bucks
2019 Mercedes sprinter 2500 v6 turbo diesel. I occasionally notice a small blotch of oil on the garage floor. I do not believe it is a general oil leak, I feel that I notice this after we have used the van to tow a trailer and side by side. You mentioned this may occur when the turbo is put under load. Would it be possible that what you are describing would throw a small, individual splatter of oil on the cement floor, the engine bay seems clean and free of oil, is this bad for the engine? I have brought it to the dealership to "fix it once, maybe twice now" they have put a new clip on it under warranty. But i don't believe the dealership is worth a hoot. I wonder if I should try your method.
Yes absolutely. Air intake pipes have connection points underneath near radiator at the intercooler. Under load can cause extra oil vapor and or a bit of oil splatter to get sucked up from block. Not much to worry about. If it gets real bad replace pcv
I'm goingnto try this on my 2010 ML350. That thing is burning through oil aomething crazy. Had Mercedes do an oil consumption test and they said its normal.
Meh. U might Wana extend the hose a few feet to underneath your vehicle. There isn’t much space between the engine and the hood on those
2011 Sprinter every year a new oil leak or 2. Even under Warranty. From diff, manifold, oil sump, pressure sensor, shock absorbers. You think it’s fixed and another comes. It’s never not had a leak fixed without causing another one every time. 😢
I’m sorry to hear that. In my experience. The strangest issues I’ve seen have occurred between 2010 and 2013. I really don’t know why. New om642 engine sub category but still.
just found your channel 😊! Ive a 2004 t1n 2.2 l . i have this issue on mine its leaking and oiling everything 🙄 , why does this happen in the first place , is something worn or broken ?
I am getting limp mode P0299 and have oil in the turbo hose..etc Would like to get the fix (Crankcase Breather for PVC) but it isn't on Amazon anymore. I have a 2004 Sprinter 2500 2.7L. Any help with either how to get the Breather for PVC or PVC part would be greatly appreciated!
hmm, are u certain those issues are related to eachother?
@@sprinterfix Not 100% but you state " Turbo charger oil leaks usually get misdiagnosed by mechanics when really the PVC valve is leaking. sometimes this causes Limp Mode and P0299 codes" So I thought I would first try installing the Crankcase breather you are suggesting on this video instead of replacing the PVC valve which is 20 yrs old. Any suggestions and how to get the parts is greatly appreciated.
Sorry I took so long to respond. There are a few things to unpack here, likely want to use a smoke machine to see if your turbo system has any leaks. Some oil going through the turbo is normal. before doing the breather tube consider a catch can. Also you can test to ensure it is oil coming from pvc vs oil coming from leaky turbo by removing the pipe going between turbo and turbo resonator. Also remove pcv and block off or leave unplugged for this test. make sure no dirt can get sucked into the turbo. run the engine and see if oil is beading through the turbo outlet ( the part that sends the compressed air to the resonator).
Hi you are dead right , what size is the filter connection and or hose will go purchase on and a reticulation block off fitting
Yea. I’m dead. I don’t remember the exact size but the ones for Cummins engines fit perfectly and those are the first to show up when u search this product
No, this would not work. The engine bay will be covered with film of oil in no time. Catch can could be the next solution.
Haha. Ok fine. Catch can may very well be a better solution.
just found your channel 😊! Ive a 2004 t1n 2.2 l . i have this issue on mine its leaking and oiling everything 🙄 , why does this happen in the first place , is something worn or broken ?
ok i see now hehe i hadn't watched all the video before i opened my yap 😂
We don’t have the 2.2 here in the USA so I have limited knowledge of its unique issues
@@sprinterfix yes the 2.2 is not popular over here either , my fix was a new crank breather ! 😁 👍
How do you do it in the picture of the old sprinter?
I have a sprinter 2012 with 2143cc OM651 Do you recommand to instal this kit preventive ? Thanks for your videos!
Absolutely not. If your pcv valve is working just leave it be. Only if you are seeing it spurt oil all over the place
It says no longer available:(
Hi, I am new to your work, I had a 2007 LWB Sprinter , In 2019 was travelling up a steep hill behind a long queue of lorries And they were all slowly slowing down so I decided to overtake drop-down gear into fourth exhilarated also there’s a big gosh oil blew out of my dipstick holder and the engine went into limp mode, I had the vehicle recovered and I was told I needed a new engine so for the time being I just drive around very slowly ended up ditching the van never found out exactly what was wrong with it do you have any idea what was wrong.
Phil
it would be safe to assume the engine experienced damage given the details provided. what did the engine sound like when you drove it around after? was there lots of blowby coming out of the exhaust cap?
it's not available on amazon anymore.
what company makes this?
I’ll put it up one my own site. Sprinter van dot com. Everyone reminds me that a catch can is a superior solution and I’m starting to think they’re half right
Does this apply to 2008 2500dodge sprinter van?
Certainly does
Your way seem fine but illegal in a lot of places, I have installed a proven 200 catch can and capture the fumes & oil!
Certainly not illegal. This device was never originally created as an emissions related system. It is made for the health of your engine. Without it too much pressure would build up in block and cause gaskets to leak. They even sell them at autozone in California. I have not heard of any vehicle which has a system in place to calculated the amount of emissions created through blowby. It would be like saying driving around with a loose engine oil cap is illegal
i'd like to install the same catch can but they don't sell it for sprinter. how you install it?
@@sprinterfix I would ask your local emission to start with, in Canada what you did is Illegal and yes if you remove the oil cap your are impeding the CCV system so you are at fault, cheers
What’s the part to replace the valve
Might be better to just go the new valve route
Thank you. I did not see the link did I miss it?
very welcome my man. How did you like this one?
Ohh, yea, I have not made a link yet. need to get on that.
@@sprinterfix great video. You are a great teacher.
@@kayakwesty thanks man.. I have been meaning to take time out and make more informative videos. any issues with your van I should address?
@@sprinterfix weird one. Biodiesel in our Sprinters . What percentage etc and if it ruins the exhaust system (s) vs deleted. I found your oil video a good deep dive.
In the hose i have a sensor its called the elephant hose , what are you suppose to do with that?
2005 2.7
Super common to mistaken that inline heater element for a sensor. It really just keeps the hose closer to the temperature that is inside the engine block so that the oil vapor doesn’t immediately condense. If u are unsure just unplug it for a minute and check your scan tool.
Kit says no longer available???
Yea. I’m going to fix that
What is the cap with the rubber valve called?
Pcv valve. Or just positive crank ventilation valve. Small differences between 2007 and 2009. And different between 2010 to 2014. This is for the 3.0 engines.
what is the name of the plug that is failing to create this issue. I'm seeing lots of oil in my coolant system now. Looked for the products and the amazon listing is gone.
Let me update the link. But if u have coolant in the engine this likely won’t help. I mention intercooler but that is referencing turbo intercooler hoses
@@sprinterfix my coolant system is disassembled right now under maintenance and I found a link for what looks like the same mod at walmart. i have several flushes to run before getting fresh coolant in it also. Right now it's bone dry in the engine. should I add the mod before getting the coolant filled again? Thanks for the reply love the channel
@@enigmatic_sunn Honestly man, I wouldn't bother with this until your van is up and running, are u doing an oil cooler job at the moment?
@@sprinterfix replacing the radiator and thermostat and running as many flushes as needed to fully clean the system, including the heater control valve and core. Thats about it. Should i wait til after to add the mod? Thanks for the replies i appreciate you 🙏
@@enigmatic_sunn I would wait,
I think the main reason you are not going to see too many mechanics recommending this is because blow by gases get re-burned for a reason, they are horrible for the environment. You're basically just pumping oil vapor and raw fuel into the air. The customer is going to smell it, and defeating emissions equipment is a crime so its definitely a risk for a business to do this.
These filters are sold at autozone and oreilly's, PCV system though it may have the capacity to act as an emissions device it is not it's sole purpose. The air that flows through the cabin comes directly from outside although I have heard that this engine on smaller cars exhaust in the cabin can be an issue in which case I suggest a longer hose leading under the vehicle or a catch can which makes things better too.
So you are saying that this filter does the work of a catalyst converter? 🤔
if you use a catch can the vapor will get sucked back in but the oil is filtered out
😂😂😂 this guy!
Stop acting like you care about the "environment". I bet you eat McDonald's and KFC. This mod is not that bad and emissions guys are easily paid.
ive a 2005 2.7L sprinter and im getting crazy amounts of black smoke when under load/ setting off. engine is very tapety as well. i take it i may have injector issues as well as this?
Please please Don’t drive anywhere. Leaky injector can equal engine failure. Seen it too many times on those 2.7s. If I had to guess an injector would be my best guess. But I’m not there. Do u have rail pressure codes? Blowby ok? Excessive heat? Perhaps feed it a couple bottles of diesel purge as that can be a temporary solution for some injector issues. How many miles?
@@sprinterfix im pretty new to the sprinters. i assume i can get pressure codes from an obd reader or what ever these mercs use. heat is ok doesnt really get hot i havent really stressed it. 360k Kilometers. im also getting oil in the intake like in the video
@@decoyla yes, you should be able to read rail pressure directly from a not so expensive scan tool but not likely from the cheaper 5 dollar ones. might need to spend 60 bucks or so. Flordia Van Man likes the autel ap200 which is a good place to start. My personal favorite is the delphi DS150E. but I don't know which part of the world you are in. Given you are talking in Kilometers Ill assume outside of USA. so I am not sure which scan tool to recommend. If you have no check engine light then likely your rail pressure is not too bad. but please be cautious all it takes is for one bad injector to cause a piston ring to seize up and your engine is toast. I have seen a few with the same mileage as yours do this.
@@sprinterfix yeah we have those here. many thanks for the help
@@sprinterfix sorry one more thing ive a Autel AutoLink AL519 OBD2 reader. that should do the job? for reading the rail pressure? thanks again
Use a catch can bruh
Haha. I was going to do a follow up vid with a catch can but just haven’t gotten to it. There are cheap 20 dollar catch cans that plug right in.
@@sprinterfix such as,,,?
@@southtrunk thanks for subsribing! here you go, there are cheaper options too with a few less bells and whistles, someone on the facebook group has already gone over the best way to mount these. www.amazon.com/dp/B087LZHFGC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_DGHF3D3ZPBPRRT6RQ7RM
😊 engine does run cleaner by the turbo does not spool as efficiently that back pressure that's building up in the cylinder head and actually helps spool the turbo
Aww man. I have to fundamentally disagree with you here. The pre turbo pressure generally hovers around one atmosphere. Sometimes a little lower due the speed the air is moving. Post turbo boost is much much higher. Just plug in a scan tool and take a look. Any pressure coming from pvc is negligible.
@@sprinterfix I can show you many examples.. that air is under pressure... It will spool the turbo and the engine will run leaner with the extra air
Compound this by removing the bpv/blow off valve and the performance AF ratio and emissions improve...
I have done this with diesel and petrol engines... With performance always being improved
The con is the added stress placed on the turbo... Just rebuild your turbos every 140,000km as preventative maintenance....
1 atmosphere is near 1 bar... 1 bar is around 15lbs...
This is especially helpful under acceleration where the engine is operating under 1 atmosphere... Therefore helping it spool the turbo... Improving performance...
You will also go further distance with less full...
it clearly sounds like you have experience with this. point me in the direction of a video or blog that I can read up on, would love to know how it works
@@sprinterfix I have a naturally aspirated class b petrol Ford..
If I can befriend a turbo'd diesel owner .. I will ask if I can make a video
Cheers
What a load of bs
catch can!
Meh. Catch cans are ok
it's been 2 years and my intake look like it's just been clean, i just have to empty out the drain bottle and clean the screen every couple of month but no mess in the engine compartment@@sprinterfix
I have a OM642 2013 3500 now with over 300K Will that work for mine?
Will what work? Replacing the pcv valve? Or using the hose and filter? Both are reasonable solutions. So is a catch can