THE BEST Ankle Motion Exercise In Drumming - James Payne
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2020
- This has been by far the best exercise I've ever done to develop my feet technique. When I started to get comfortable in doing these exercises my feet technique improved exponentially!
This is a snippet of the 'Heel Up (Ankle Motion)' lesson that you can find here: jamespaynedrums.com/shop/cour...
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This is strange. I am right handed, but I just confirmed that I am left-footed. I’ve always played bass with my right foot predominantly, but I was playing along to this (32nd notes instead of 16s) and my left foot is WAY stronger and more consistent. Makes sense bc I just now realized I skated with goofy stance my entire life. This is kinda blowing my mind
It is amazing how becoming aware of our muscles in a simple way, shows us how disconnected we are from the body, I have no control at all of these muscles and I can barely manage to do the movement with my left leg!!!, with the right I have no major problem.
Thanks for share your wisdom James 🤜🤛
This is such a great video, thanks James! Little snippets of particular exercises are really good content and will help me practice. You're the man!
After 1 minute, you start feel hurts....awesome!!! BUUUUURN!!!!
I'll definitely start using it, thanks for a great video!
One sentence in this video saved my double bass playing..!🤩
"Focus on the upward motion."
I was struggling for a long time with my ankle motion.
I used to be able to play t 200-210 bpm in a relaxed way.
A few months ago I lost my technique for some stupid reason and my legs tenced-up at higher tempos. So frustrating.
I noticed also that my right foot still played from the shin and my left foot from the calf.
That was the problem.
Once I focused on the upward motion of my left foot, I started to use the shin muscle again.
Problem solved!!
Now I practise a lot of patterns in 16th notes and 16th note triplets at 120, 125 and 130 bpm.
The 16th note triplets at 130 bpm is actually 195 bpm 32nd notes.
Thank you James!
So happy to hear that man! Glad my video was of help!
Cool! Do this exercise need to be played with heel down?
Hey James, is this lesson included in the 'Feet Technique' course?
You can do this while on the can. Nice.
Exactly, at work, home, school, car... plenty of places to practice ahah
I think the biggest issues I have are A) Balance and B) My quads get very sore holding my leg up enough to keep my heel 1" off the ground. Any tips for this?
How many repetition would be good per unit? How many traing units a week? I like your videos very much 👍😊
Hey there, as I replied to another comment, the full workout would be around 10 to 15 minutes and you can repeat it 3 times increasing the bpm each time. You can either do this everyday until you feel like you are comfortable enough or do it every other day. Make sure you set goals to reach for speed so that you don't just practice it randomly but you aim at something :)
@@JamesPayneDrums I will try it, thank you very much for the useful tips \m/
I just later realized that this was a preview of a course on your homepage, bought it now 👍Appreciate your videos very much, keep on doing the good stuff 🤘
You're very welcome man, I hope the lesson will be of help!
Is my imagination or you are doing the exercises using a ball to help your feet to bounce?
I'm new to heel up technique, I'll definitely add this to my daily routine. How many repetition of this exercise would you suggest in a daily based routine for a beginner?
I think you should first do the right and then the left, rest a minute and try again. Next day right, left and repeat one more time both. Next day add one more (R L) adding a repetition each day.
He is playing at 100 bpm I think is good to stress the ankle adding repeats without increasing the tempo.
Hi Luca, the full workout would be around 10 to 15 minutes and you can repeat it 3 times increasing the bpm each time. You can either do this everyday until you feel like you are comfortable enough or do it every other day. Make sure you set goals to reach for speed so that you don't just practice it randomly but you aim at something :)
Many say that for ankle motion you have to use your calf muscles cause the shin muscle is the weakest and it is "wrong", so should i practice it this way or use my calf?
Focus more on lifting your heel you’ll feel it in your calves more
I have the opposite approach, the calf approach is very physical and gives me less control and very tiring. The shin approach allows you to take advantage of the spring of the pedal more and you can stay way more relaxed. I suggest you to check my videos on the Shin and Calf approaches on my channel or the full versions on my website :)
@@JamesPayneDrums Oh i see! Thank you!! :D
@@25stealthshooter trying for like 2 months bro, i still can't feel just my ankles, even if i do, i just twitch
@@fizzyfran2886 bro I feel you. I feel like the best balance I’ve gotten is mostly ankles with a little of hip flexor focus. But I feel like some people just don’t have flexible ankles.. myself included
Anyone back after a year and got any results to let us know? I'm about to dive into this and wondering how effective it is?
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I have a serious problem. I can do this without pedals, quite easily honestly. But as soon as I step on the pedal, it gets wonky and completely inconsistent. What am I doing wrong?
I geht a cramp in my whole Leg when i lift the Leg to do this? Amy Idea?
It might be caused from balance issues, try to sit using more surface of the stool and see if it gets better.
@@JamesPayneDrums thanks i'll try it
Hey, not a pro here. But usually ankle motion does not rely on shin muscles, rather on calf muscles. Therefore, this exercise seems to not really help on ankle motion
The tibialis anterior muscle (or so called shin muscle), found in the anterior compartment of the leg, is the primary muscle that facilitates dorsiflexion of the ankle joint. This is the muscle that facilitates the up-motion of the ankle. You are probably referring to the down motion of the foot, which involves more the calf, but with that approach you mainly press against the spring tension, creating a lot of physical effort, rather than take advantage of the spring by synchronizing to it and following the pedal back up without feeling so much effort. That's why I prefer this approach. I hope this helped!
@@JamesPayneDrums that's actually mind blowing to read!
I see a lot of videos from the Drums Academy (Marthyn Jovanovic) and he insists a lot on trying, as much as possible, to not use, if possible, the shin muscles at all. Although, he admits that, sometimes you will use a little.
If I am understanding correctly, what you propose is that, you might actually benefit to use both muscles. In the upward part (when the beater is going towards the drum head and the heel is going up), using the calf muscle. In the downward part (when the beater is moving away from the drum head and the heel is moving down), using the shin muscle.
is that correct?
If that is the case, I will try this. I was sure that this was "exact" and defined science. But I see there might be other approaches, and it's best to try them all
Thanks!!!