AIR BAGGED TRAILER, Part 4: PLANS AND FINAL TESTS!
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Oh yeah! The trailer works and here's the plans for it!
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You sir are going to be the next channel to blow up! My daughter (8) and I just watched this entire build series! Great content, and your DAD JOKES are on point! Keep it up
That is awesome! Even my kids don't watch my vids! 😅 thanks for the comment!
This is such a great project and series! Can’t wait to build mine to haul machinery around! Thanks for taking the time to make these plans!
Thanks Chris, can wait to see your version! Let me know when you start it!
This is a cool trailer for low clearance vehicles like carts or Harleys or even a gun safe on dollies, but keep in mind that drop deck machine trailers are usually hydraulic and often have no suspension other than the tires. I would hate to think what could happen moving a top heavy 2500# surface grinder or Bridgeport mill on an air bag trailer. This single axle version would be ideal for appliance or spa delivery.
I wish you would sell a kit for this . I would make one my self if I had the equipment at home . You do great work I love you designs .
great idea Dave! I just don t have enough time for any small production.
Great job, and entertaining too! You could make a high pressure 110 compressor yourself out of a old freezer or fridge compressor. A lot of them can do very high pressure with low amp draw at startup so your inverter should handle it just fine The compressor will be lower volume but quiet.
Ya that would be neat I have thought about it myself but I haven't
Love it man!! Thanks for the plans, we will be using for a big smoker!!
You do a great job on these videos and looking forward to more content from you.
so glad i found your videos. i recently purchased/sold a civic hatch and my buddy i purchased the car from dropped it off with a hydraulic/drop trailer. i recently purchased a tubing bender and industrial band saw and thought, what's a way i can make some of my money back on these tools and use them to help make it.. So I figured it'd be cool to build some custom trailers. i liked the lowering trailer idea and decided i didn't want to mess with hydraulics really, but figured air bag suspension would be a cool alternative.. then realized people were already doing it lol. never seen it and thought i had an amazing new idea.. guess i don't have to design it now though.
Do you think a pair of trailer mounted bump stops that lock in place during towing to keep it from fully drooping in an emergency and as a safety precaution when going over unexpected large bumps would help? Thanks for sharing and great work! I'm really thinking about getting a copy for myself, but I just got to get a car to take to the track first.
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Another option is to use a triple convoluted air spring or a rolling sleeve air spring to increase capacity go with a larger spring od and yes you can increase capacity by increasing the arm length on the air spring side and if using a triple convoluted or rolling lobe air spring with longer travel you can get the same travel while increasing capacity or decreasing the required pressure in the air springs (they last longer at 15-50 psi than 80+)
This trailer project is the reason I subbed, but I have been watching the smart busa and it is a great series
Very impressive build. Thank you for the vids.
My pleasure, thanks for the comment Aaron!
Can't wait to see the Smartbusa on the track. Love the entertainment :)
Just went drifting with it 🤫 No track this year....need a diff...but 🤫🤫🤫
I'm busy designing my own single axle trailer, this definitely will help me with the suspension
Glad I could help my friend! 👍👍👍 Please, send me pictures once youre done with your project!
Got the plan ordered my airbags will start next week awesome
NICE!!!! 👍
Great price for all that work sir. Great Job!!
Thanks Trever...I think too! 😏
Great project.
Muchas Felicidades Joven Por Su Canal.
Saludos Cordiales Desde Mazatlán, Sinaloa, México. ..
Awesome awesome I’ll be getting the plans soon
NICE!!👍
Have you looked at having the laser cut parts made? Interested in the build but would love to just pay to have the needed parts delivered and I weld them up..
Super projet bien pensé: bien joué !
Merci Hot Hotllywood! 👍
from the Netherlands thanks for the video
For two bikes, all you'd need is a metal 2-3 inch tall metal strip down the center with some slots cut.
It would still clear most small cars and tractors, as well.
Viny. I had a thought. Would having a way to set a ride height safety stop be helpful? Incase you blow a bag while in transit, the trailer doesn't coming crashing to the ground, but back onto a safety pin and allow you to still trailer to safety.
Love it you have made think I may have to build one to carry my Harley custom trike that will also take 2 Harley bikes thank you from Down Under in Australia
Thanks Shane! BTW I think you Aussis built the best trailers ever, especially travel trailers! 👌
Vraiment malade ton setup !!!! T'es montages vidéos sont super lache pas mon vieux good job.
Hey! Merci Mike! 👍💪
Great video man very entertaining 💯😎🤣👍
Glad you enjoyed Ryan!
Lol daughters reaction is gold 😂😂
You Truly are ALOT OF Fun and a awesome Designer your obviously French are you living in Quebec or Montreal I'm in Abbotsford British Columbia Canada 🇨🇦 and I've always enjoyed the engenuity of great master's and their Ideas , each and every time I see their projects comes too Life I'm inspired . I've watched your videos believing that your a master dreamer Fabricator and Designer at a factory wow they are very fortunate to have such a talented person working for them
Funny... Great idea, too!
Glad you think so! 😁
Nice toonie!
Thanks Frank!
Flip the tow hitch and ball. You'll get your clearance back. There will be a certain point where it's level and that's the one you want to tow with.
It is awesome
Thanks! 👍👍
So Im just seeing this now and I am curious on how this has held up over the last year plus? Any updates on the trailer and how things are doing ??
NICE BACK TO THE BUSA
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I like to think I’m to blame for the fulcrum comment lol. Glad your modifications worked
Any comments or questions about a design is a good one, in that case I could'nt do anything, but maybe that could be one situation where I over past that point! So thanks for your input! 👍
Nice trailer love the air bag setup but how does it tow with the wheels back so looks like you have to have the car back to far ,I tend to have the wheels in a neutral position so it's easy to push around empty
YEP! you got that one right! I designed and built my trailer, which is in fact the prototype of all of this and I end up moving foward the wheels on my final design. So in the plans, is a better version then what I have 🤦♂
your wife made the same face at you that we all do at work ! keep up the good alway find your video entertaining
🤦♂️ Merci mon Luc! On s'en rejase cette semaine...
26.000 subscribers finaly you are getting the credd!
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hey, what a beautiful design. has the trailer also been inspected by the authorities? this to be able to get a license plate for the trailer? I live in Europe and this does apply here to meet certain requirements so that everything is safe on the road.
We don't have that inspection requirement here 🤷♂️
Still goin to recomend straps or chains as a saftey if the bags blow on the road
I put that in the notes of the plan 👍👍👍
did the newer, higher pressure air bags get you closer to the load limit for the axle? I.E. did they take away the bags being the limit for loading.
I try to match the air bags limits to the axle, so no big change for the load capacity.
The difference is that both models of bags had roughly the same lifting capacity, only one was over rated.. 🤦♂️ But now I'm golden!
You mentioned in an earlier video that the trailer was a bit tongue heavy. Could one move the axel and associated equipment one foot forward ( or more ) and change the balance point of the trailer keeping a watchful eye as to how the trailer lowers in the rear?
I did modified the original design and the plans are now updated with a moved axle and better balanced. But the prototype I build, is still the same...
I just purchased the plans....... do you plan on uploading some links of where you bought the specialty stuff? [spindles/brakes, 2" coupler etc]
I tough about it, but for the air bags, buy from slam and for the axle, I bought mine locally, so don't have any links for now.
I am enjoying your videos my man. I have a question. Do you think I could add a third axle in order to build a 30 feet trailer and 10k lbs load capacity?
Well, you can add a third axle, but that will increase the capacity to maybe 8K. To reach 10K you'll need to change and beef up my original design (frame, axle size, airbags, swign arm...)
Yo if u backed on your S box wouldn’t u be able to drive on and off without using your wench?
do you think the double axel trailer would sit flat on the ground disconnected from the tow truck. also do you think 20' would work as i want to travel with a small train for the carnivals. cars are about 30" wide and i was thinking 2 tracks side by side for extra car storage. and truck air bags are rated for heaver loads average truck carry's 40,000 lbs. freight.
Hi, that's a lot of modifications from my orginal design, truck air bag and lenght, so it's hard for me to evaluated if the trailer will sit flat. It's maybe feasable, but will need some rethinking to make it work.
Would aluminum be possible for a lighter trailer for the dual axle?
well done, Viny! Iron suspension swingarms + compressor housing = isn't the center of mass too far in front of the axle? What's the vertical load applied to the towing ball when trailer idle?
On mine it's way too much, I have to load the smart at the far back of the trailer. So I moved the axle 12'' foward on the plans...That's why I always make a proto of these build...but now I'm stuck with this version! 🤦♂️
@@VinyB57 Appreciate your quick response, it's a pleasure!
If I may -- some points:
1. Powering airpump with a two-stroke chainsaw engine)) could be cheaper and less weight.
2. Make the axle position +-10" adjustable forwards/backwards would improve the balance (ball load decrease + ride stability increase).
Your estimate - how much the construction weight will increase?
3. How to implement a tow ball load sensor - any idea?
@@VinyB57 Besides, let me note how much impressive your technological capabilities and performing skills are!
My question is why you didn't use a semi truck air bag there meant for lots of weight
This gave me a similar idea for a light duty trailer to pull behind my motorcycle. Instead of air bags, I plan on using adjustable bicycle air shocks.
Great build! what program do you use for CAD?
Hey Thanks, I'm using Solidworks
Doesn't seem like the shock absorbers are really doing anything unless they are basically being used as a telescoping linkage for that end of the cantilever.
Not sure what the rules are there, but here shock absorbers are mandatory for air spung and coil sprung trailers, so even if they don't do a lot, they do fit that criteria. :)
I love the design! What is needed to raise the load capacity to 7,000lbs on the twin axle? Larger airbags? Hell I may even try to build a 10k trailer with twin 5k axles. I guess just beefing up the suspension should make that work.
To increase lifting capacity, everything needs to be upgraded, from the axles to the bags, the swingarms and even the tubes used for the frame. I tried to match the capacity of each component, so to increase or even double the capacity, everything must be beefier
@Viny B That's what I figured. Thx! I've always wanted an airbag trailer since I buy auction cars so much. Your design looks soo much better than the others I saw with the bags at these weird angles when lifted. I may just try to convert an existing trailer I already have with your plans.
@@rotaryperfection Sounds good! 👍
Goes through the trouble of keeping airbag straight but no love for keeping the shock in-line with the movement of suspension.
The suspension is on a pivot, once extended (position up of the trailer) the shock is pretty much perpendicular to that pivot rotation (off by 20°), which is pretty much like a truck rear axle and it's working perfectly. Or even a macferson suspension, it's never perfectly in-line!! I have about 8'' of travel for the suspension and didn't want to have a stupidly high shock, so high that you won't be able to open the doors of the car you,re towing. So I jam a 4.8'' stroke shock and with a specific placement, was able to get that 8'' of travel needed. I really don't get why people are always bugging me with that shock position! Oh well I guess that's social network! 🤷♂️
@@VinyB57 Shocks that go horizontal when suspension compresses really bugs me because I drove a friends car with that horrible setup on rear axle and it was very unstable compared to all the McPherson strut cars I have driven. McPherson and double A arms in OEM cars keep the the spring and shock angle change within a few degrees trough the whole travel range. Depending on where it bottoms out at it can be at most perpendicular angle at full compression. spring and shock are always in the same line, if springs are straight vertical and you shock goes towards horizontal when compressed you increase spring force but lessen dampening force. I even fault oem manufactures like that french car for stupid suspension setup and I will never want to own any vehicle with wonky suspension setup. If I ever build a drop trailer than this it's going to have something like a qa1 adjustable shock, you can place that where you have less travel but adjust valving for leverage arm.😁
Can you build another race mower?
How much "machining" is required vs laser or waterjet cutting? I have the cutting tools, but not a machine shop.
Not much machining require. To fit the bushings, you will have to either get very lucky with the pipe size you have available and the bushing will fit snug in the pipes, or you machine them to fit
(that's what I did, I mahcined them) All the shafts are in round up dimensions, so no need to machine them to fit the bushings.
Saludos. ..
Cuanto $ $ $ Cuesta Los Planos Para Fabricar Un Remolque De Dos Ejes? ??
50 dls
what about double air bag for one wheel ?
Молодец!!!
First comment ! Well done Viny B !!
YoupYoup! 👍
Thanks man!
What is the total overall width? And is the deck a true 6 ft?
how did you calculate center of mass? to avaid excessive tow hook load.
That's the beauty of designing everything in 3D with all the right materials. Getting the center of mass after that is just a matter of a click, in Solidworks
Did you ever build the double axle?
plan for this spring
Would a swaybar be helpful for stability?
For now, the thing is super stable, I'm not racing the thing either, so no swaybar in the future for now
Great video series best one on you tube on air ride trailer build. the comedy shtick and slurpping coffee i could do with out your subject matter these videos are based on don't need it. I know it sounds harsh but then again i don't think your intention was to cater to pre teens. I'll hold off on subscribing for now but you get likes on your vids and i will be buying the plans.
Safety mechanical lockout required by law in your Province?
It's suspension. That'd be like throwing away your cars springs
Good morning, how can I acquire the plans, I'm very interested in it?
Jsut clic on the link in the description below, or go on my side at: www.57design.ca
So what you gonna do if a bag pops on the highway? This is a serious question I’m not trying to be rude.
Класс бомба 😉😉😉😉👍👍👏👏👌👌
Спасибо!
look ok sitting in yard ..be heck of a mess when air bag blows out at 100km/hr on freeway and trailer dragging down road
Was it 4 sale???????????
To carry choppers ? Where are they going to put the rotor blades ? And want the tail rotor stick off the back of the trailer to far to be legal?
Don't have all the details about it..! 😅
I think he meant the style of motorcycles called choppers.
Your gone too long sir, glad to see ya
Yeah...it's been a 3 weeks of editing on this thing (part time I mean) A lot of work for only 12 min 😅
Where are the airbags from?
Slam Specialities, I mentionned it in the video
Where is the link for the plans? Did i miss something
David, go check in the description section of the video, there's my website or on Etsy
I’d like to make this out of aluminum. Would the material thicknesses be the same?
@Dave Pin very insightful.
Thank you for your valuable response….
Did you ever make the air trailer out of aluminum
Dominator 2600s actually have a maximum pressure of 600 psi, not 100 psi.
Hi Tom, I know exactly which spec you are talking about. And I was really confused back when I read it. It's 600 psi ''restrained'' ...like at a peak? 🤷♂️ But where I took the 100 psi was in the max load capacity. They claime that the max load capaciuy is 3055lb at 100psi. So This is where I based my theory...but again, I'm not telling I know the truht here..
@@VinyB57 I’m with you, I feel like the 600 may be the absolute maximum pressure of the bag. I did see the 100 psi rating as well. The 250 psi for the ss8 seems to be max pressure, I’m curious what the load capacity is at 100 psi.
Haha je savais pas que t'étais un québécois!
YES! 💪👍
Precio $ De Los Planos?
50 USD
Sparebag
Bingo! 👍
How much you want for it ?
Sorry, not for sale! 😅
I found my axle from a local supplier, go see a trailer's dealer, they will probably help you find a supplier localy
Salut Viny comment je pourais entre en contact avec toi je serrais vraiment interesser!!!
Salut JF, tu peux me rejoindre par courriel au design57@outlook.com 👍
Plans $ $ $ ? ??
How many plans do you think you'll sell? As someone who's been fabricating stuff for myself for over 20 years that's not something I would ever buy. I also never used to buy tshirts as there were always ample free for advertising companies that I enjoyed/liked. However to support youtubers that I like, that's what I do, I buy some of their merch :-) But plans? No thanks. Design from scratch any day, my own features, my own flaws, my own joy in construction and ownership :-)
That's perfect, when you can design your own stuff...some people need references. I'm thinking about the merch..😉
@@VinyB57 I guess that's just hard for me to understand. I feel like anyone that can fabricate can design, but I'm probably wrong. I know that not everyone that can design can do the hands on part. I guess the reverse can be true, MIG welding isn't exactly difficult and reasons for knowing it can vary. I still feel like the overlap between can fab and can design is pretty high though. Good luck! :-)
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pourquoi tu fais pas tes videos en français
Parce que pour rejoindre un maximum de monde, c'est l'anglais 😅, en plus avec mon accent québécois, je pense que c'est pas mal juste les québécois qui me comprendrait.
No
Yes!
60$ thats nothing to be honest, I wish it was longer
saw you have a longer design
C'est pas légal tirer un auto sur une remorque a un essieux au Québec...
Salut Joshua, je cherche où on peut voir cette règlementation, mais je ne la trouve pas. Je consulte le site du gouv: saaq.gouv.qc.ca/transport-biens/particulier/remorque mais je ne vois rien à ce sujet. Es-tu capable de me montrer cette règlementation ou est-ce plus qq chose que tu as entendus dire de quelqu'un, parce que cela fait 2 fois que tu me l'écris en commentaire, mais j'ai absolument rien vu à ce sujet.
Am I the only one that thinks $60 is rediculous for plans because that money would be used for the materials to build it?
Hi Samuel, first, you don,t have to buy the plans, you can inspire yourself from what you saw on the videos and from other builds. Just keep in mind that a spend a least 20 hours on designing and cutting and remaking things around to make it work. It really depends on, if you have a lot of time on you hand and not a lot of $ or if you have less time, but a bit more money. Let's say, you make 20$ per hour in you pocket, it means that, to top that developpment and rework on the trailer that I did in 20hr, it could be done in 3 hours🤷♂️. But again, if you have the time and you wan't to learn how to create from scratch things, without the plans is the wait to got! But if you've got a wife and kids and want to built it and get it done not 2 years, 60$ CAD could be a small price to pay.
@@VinyB57 good point thank you
SxS = LMAO
Love the Video, love the Project... But I beg you to stop using that ai-voice :(
HAHA...it's when I forgot to explain something...😅 I kinda like it!
@@VinyB57 Yeah it makes sence to use it in such situations. Your content, your decision. I love your Videos anywan :)
@@qualle9257 Thanks buddy! 👍👍
Good job but you talk too much.
I know, it was an explanatory video about the plans...so yeah I talked...and with an accent..😅🤦♂️😁
1988 KW air-bag. taller
Good to know
Muchas Felicidades Joven Por Su Canal.
Saludos Cordiales Desde Mazatlán, Sinaloa, México. ..