yes the raw performance is low for the cost compared to other something like ARM. But when you look at history of both, arm exists for 36 years while risc-v is since 2010. You also count for the fact that risc-v is open this looks very promising for the mid & long term, making it very ideal for developers
Consumer ARM boards don't even support pluggable GPUs yet, this Hi-Five board is already ahead on that front. Everyone benefits when the foundations are open, even the most closed off companies are interested in RISC-V
I so want RISC-V to become a major platform in the industry. I can see it scaling from mobile platforms all the way to the data center... It's just going to be a matter of time and work by the right people with the right backing.
Yeah, people think x86 needs to be worried about ARM, but i don't, i think ARM needs to be worried about RISC-V. If RISC-V starts to eat at the low end, and x86 won't budge from the high end ARM could be in for a pinch in the middle. And i don't think x86 is going anywhere, its just easier to keep making it than bother trying to switch the whole ecosystem over for an efficiency gain that shrinks every time the silicon does.
@@DoiGiayBay I did a few minutes of research and I didn't see any mention of risk-v from them. I did see that their processors use ARM though. I would love to see how they use risk-v though if you know.
@@JayDee-b5u But why waste the man hours when you can just keep making x86 CPUs. The small efficiency benefit isn't worth all the hassle. And x86 isn't rolling over dead. Alder Lake has 6 wide decode, which was once claimed impossible by arm guys, and big/little, to make the efficiency difference even smaller.
Really glad Rene is getting the credit and shoutouts he deserves. So much hard work hacking away at things. He's a real trailblazer, and we're just pleb tourists following along.
Dude, I was getting into computers when Motorola was the fab for Apple PCs back in the PowerPC era. Old-school RISC. It's taken over 20 years for it to come back after being relegated to cellphones, video game consoles, and niche compute projects. Long overdue.
Built my first pc when i was 11 in 2009 with a 550W diablotek PSU, later I put it in a system I rented to a college roommate where it attempted to power a GTX 580... the smell it emitted under that workload convinced me to swap it out. It ended up powering a vending machine I built as a project for embedded systems class; I think it's even still alive somehow
Very cool. I'm happy to see how quickly this movement evolves, and I've high hopes for future developments. What needs to happen is a RISC-V variant of the Raspberry Pi or similar. Around that price point anyway, that's when the software side is going to really take off I'm sure. :)
I so want RISC-V. But as you noted, RPi 4 is better ATM. And with tech, waiting to buy has perks, since you can only spend $$$ once. I just bought a $2K amd 5700U laptop. My last high end laptop for > $1K was circa 2002. With the way things are changing, my current car is probably my last gas car. And this new laptop is probably my last x86 laptop. Long live RISC-V.
On the subject of Diablotek power supplies, I never understood the logic behind strangely common practice of naming PSUs or in their case their entire brand after something related to fire or explosions when that's the thing you're trying to avoid most of all. Should I really be that surprised when my 872w Volcanico brand Spicy Fireball VR Ready Gaming PSU detonates?
Wow! It's nice to see RISC-V expanding out in this direction. I don't think it'll be quite soon, but with dev systems like this out there and all the interest in the platform we might just someday see consumer products featuring RISC-V! Between this at the embedded end and OpenPOWER at the workstation/server end, open harware feels like it's doing pretty well these days.
10:48 iirc web browsers tend to be very jit-compilation heavy (because javascript/wasm), and if there isn't support for your ISA, the alternative (direct interpretation) is much slower.
I can't wait for this to get installed in some x86 chip stack as some low-power co-processor and slowly bulk up and bulk up until the x86 is vestigial. Of course we have nowhere near the software environment to facilitate that but slowly but surely I feel like it's coming.
After watching Linus for years. I appreciate your style of video. No Mickey Mouse impersonating no drama or bullshit videos. It’s also nice to see a channel that doesn’t have the creator burnout that a channel like Linus has, they run out of subjects for videos and substitute it with 3 build videos a week using the same 5 bits of hardware, that immediately go back on the shelf and reused in the next build video 2 days from the last one.. Thank you.
Agree 💯. And his Mickey mouse club lackeys , that channel for razor buying children , he’s the first channel everyone watches UNTIL they find the one they like . Haha
@@jadesprite Fair point. But this could still be cheaper in the next few years as power delivery requirements and such aren't as demanding so should be cheaper BOM.
7:09 - Diablotek Power Supplies. Oh boy, I have a video on my channel of me taking the hatred out on that devilish piece of work. All stemming from the machines at work randomly dieing years ago. All of them were built out with diablotek cases w/ included psu. 10 out of 20 had scorched or heat stressed wiring.
At around 10:00 in the video, you mention keeping the boot on the SD card but having the boot data on the NVME. Do you think this could work with a dell r720 that can't boot from NVME?
That's crazy that the platform is so far along that you already have gpu drivers running on it over a year ago! And if compiling is that straight forward that you don't even need to edit code, you could have a lot of fun with that just porting stuff over, running Linux or bsd...
IoT devices wouldn't be so insecure if we didn't need to connect them to the companies servers for them to even run. I haven't found a single IoT product that gives the option to just run on a personal close looped network or personal vpn.
that's why it's "internet of things" and not "local area network of things" I suppose. anyway, I agree. I don't see the point in home automation until there's something genuinely useful to me that doesn't need to connect to the internet and send data to some silicon valley hack to perform its function. The only options that really tempt me are DIY security camera setups that don't use cloud backups
The primary technical target is embbeded, and not like phones but specialized small stuff. Thats why the ISA is modular, it allows reduction in design complexity and silicon area while the open source part can leverage a wide range of serious mainstream languages, compilers, and related tools without your whole operational investment being dependent on the whims of a single chip manufacturer.
The reason the web browser was unreasonably slow might be that none of the JavaScript engines have RISC-V backends, so JavaScript has to run in the interpreter, which is slow, and large parts of the web browsers are themselves built in JavaScript, even if the page you’re browsing isn’t
Now I just need to find a low power Risc-V board for a nas. My off the shelf nas is getting on 8+ years now, but it has a standby power of like 4w and peak of maybe 20w, add like 5w for the hdd. Would like a 10g lan(2.5 or 5 would do), and decent zip to handle all those packets. With the last crude tests I ran some years ago it seemed ethernet needed about one core*hz per bit per second. So a single 500MHz core was needed for 500Mb/sec network transmission. Maybe ethernet adaptors have some packeting asic now to offload some cpu work, but back then it wasn't common. Also a single 7200rpm spinning drive cannot quite saturate 1g ethernet. But with ssd, m.2 and ram cache sure can, the question is then about the cpu load of compression vs feeding a faster ethernet. Compression having slight side advantage in saving a small amount of high cost ssd storage space but more latency.
Did they have to destroy that motherboard with the tall heatsinks and noisy ridiculously small fan? They could have extruded a bigger heatsink to cover both cpu and chipset, maybe with a cut in a corner to allow for mounting the wireless card and then use a 40mm or even larger fan.
How different is programming in assembly on RISC-V versus MIPS? I understand the core being RISC would be notable, but I'm unsure how much more the code would differ
How would one of these fair as an OpenWRT wireless router/NAS? This looks like the perfect option if it's able to handle Wi-Fi 7 data transfer speeds, although the cost of the board for what you get makes running an x86 alternative FAR more appealing.
As a hobbyist, rather than a developer, the lack of an equivalent to bios/uefi is REALLY annoying. But i can see an amazing future of the platform and I hope it does for hardware what linux has done for OS land (its basically taken me 20 years to be able to get out of wintel).
Oh no the first power supply I ever bought for a computer. I think I blew it in 3 months just like someone else in the reviews on TigerDirect back in 2008. I think I when really cheap and low power. At the time I never considered having my psu handle 30% more than my system required power. I figure that was a big contributor to why it failed. I replaced it with a 500w Ultra power supply.
I like the idea of Risc-V and their goal to be accessible for modularity, however a $1k price tag just for the main board... that's a bit steep I'd think. Now if the entire kit which includes the CPU, power supply, ram, hard drives, OS, etc. was at $1k then I would think it to be reasonable.
GCC or Clang as the compiler of choice in the dev tool chain ? [edit] I know what the answer is so don't know why I asked 😀 [edit 2] I mean you did say shinny and new treading new ground 😊
@@anonymousarmadillo6589 The smartphone you have on your pocket wouldn't have been the reality it is had it had x86. There were so many advantages behind RISC architectures, chief among which are scalability, efficiency and optimization. Even though x86 now is a hybrid RISC design, it took them over a decade to get behind the CISC pipeline design within the ISA.
I think x86 is coming to the end of its usefulness, they seem to have hit a wall with frequency so they're adding more cores. The amount of power used and, therefore, the cooling required has gotten ridiculous. RISC is the future, I think ARM is the clear dominator at the moment, but we need good potential rivals.
Last thing I want is ARM to win, I'm ok with x86/amd64 because it's the devil we know and risc-v is awesome because it's open...but I don't need arm coming in as the proprietary devil we don't know -__-
Cool stuff about RISC-V - their SDK uses Yocto/OpenEmbedded - the exact same thing that's been provided for ARM SoCs :D I just came home from work fighting with that for an NXP ARM SoC.
Those 4 cores may be anemic but RISC-V is still new. It has a ton of potential once it matures some more and the software written for it is more optimized. Yeah, I have seen a comparison of that and Raspberry Pi and at this time the Pi mops the floor with it but I think that may change eventually. To me it being open source is what will be the thing to make it a success. Considering the mediocrity of Windows 11, RISC-V and the open source software for it couldn't come soon enough. If you are like me and bought laptop that came with Windows 11 on it, you probably installed Windows 10 on it right away seeing the mess Microsloth made of the UI with "click to show more options starting to show up everywhere. Another horribly annoying thing they do is for changes and updates on you whether you want them or not. They even go completely out of there way to make sure you can't make Windows less annoying. Thankfully there is Linux but how much longer would it be until Microsloth tries to make it so that our desktops can only run Windows? They might say they would not do that but it feels like they don't really care about their customers. Maybe they need a visit from 3 ghosts of computing (past, present, and future) to see the error of their ways and show them how they might chase their customers away if they continue as they are now?
11:32 - "just because you got AMDGPU..."
Look at this guy, with his fancy system that actually loads the driver and doesn't hard crash! 🙃
And with all those pcie lanes too hehehe
ROFL. this is the witty youtube banter among the tech community that I come for :D
Risc already pulls ahead of the competition... in this case.
I was gonna leave a comment either here or on your channel... but I guess I don't have to. :D Looking forward to the next Pi + GPU video!
but his fancy system cost 1000 usd XD
yes the raw performance is low for the cost compared to other something like ARM. But when you look at history of both, arm exists for 36 years while risc-v is since 2010. You also count for the fact that risc-v is open this looks very promising for the mid & long term, making it very ideal for developers
meh that is a devboard, ARM devboards are very expensive as well
Consumer ARM boards don't even support pluggable GPUs yet, this Hi-Five board is already ahead on that front. Everyone benefits when the foundations are open, even the most closed off companies are interested in RISC-V
@@marcogenovesi8570 to be precise, ARM's own dev boards cost $10000 for either the A72/A53 Juno board or the Neoverse SDK board.
@@BruceHoult Qualcomm and Microsoft started selling dev kits for under 250$, i think it was from this year
2 years later and Milk-V Oasis was shown with the prices of 120$ for pre-orders!
this is fascinating. the fast facing development of risc-v is mind blowing
fast facing?
@@lordjaashin if you compare it with normal silicon development cycle, it is.
@@KD_Puvvadi do you mean fast “pacing”?
@@markhaus shit, blody typo
I so want RISC-V to become a major platform in the industry. I can see it scaling from mobile platforms all the way to the data center... It's just going to be a matter of time and work by the right people with the right backing.
don't worry. AMD bought Xilinx for risc-v. The next 2 or 3 years will be very interesting.
"right backing" thats another way to say alphabet spying agencies getting involved and installing backdoors.
Yeah, people think x86 needs to be worried about ARM, but i don't, i think ARM needs to be worried about RISC-V. If RISC-V starts to eat at the low end, and x86 won't budge from the high end ARM could be in for a pinch in the middle. And i don't think x86 is going anywhere, its just easier to keep making it than bother trying to switch the whole ecosystem over for an efficiency gain that shrinks every time the silicon does.
@@DoiGiayBay I did a few minutes of research and I didn't see any mention of risk-v from them. I did see that their processors use ARM though. I would love to see how they use risk-v though if you know.
@@JayDee-b5u But why waste the man hours when you can just keep making x86 CPUs. The small efficiency benefit isn't worth all the hassle. And x86 isn't rolling over dead. Alder Lake has 6 wide decode, which was once claimed impossible by arm guys, and big/little, to make the efficiency difference even smaller.
Really glad Rene is getting the credit and shoutouts he deserves. So much hard work hacking away at things. He's a real trailblazer, and we're just pleb tourists following along.
Go go Rene 😃😃
.....I had a couple DiabloTeks :-D
Dude, I was getting into computers when Motorola was the fab for Apple PCs back in the PowerPC era. Old-school RISC. It's taken over 20 years for it to come back after being relegated to cellphones, video game consoles, and niche compute projects. Long overdue.
Built my first pc when i was 11 in 2009 with a 550W diablotek PSU, later I put it in a system I rented to a college roommate where it attempted to power a GTX 580... the smell it emitted under that workload convinced me to swap it out. It ended up powering a vending machine I built as a project for embedded systems class; I think it's even still alive somehow
mind diablowntek
This is pretty neat! Hopefully development support comes in and the price drops a bit. $600+ is pricey for a tinker-y experimental build
Its not for tinker-y people it's a dev board, for professionals developing actual prototypes for a business
Very cool. I'm happy to see how quickly this movement evolves, and I've high hopes for future developments.
What needs to happen is a RISC-V variant of the Raspberry Pi or similar. Around that price point anyway, that's when the software side is going to really take off I'm sure. :)
Raspberry Pi has built-in video card. HiFive Unmatched does not. And only particular models of video cards are supported.
RiscV Pi-Form Factor board exists
@@vvll9617 So do Risc-V arduino uno form(shield compatible)
Milk-V Oasis was just announced and Raspberry Pi5 was announced some weeks ago!
Love the "Wendell After Dark" theme song!
I so want RISC-V. But as you noted, RPi 4 is better ATM. And with tech, waiting to buy has perks, since you can only spend $$$ once. I just bought a $2K amd 5700U laptop. My last high end laptop for > $1K was circa 2002. With the way things are changing, my current car is probably my last gas car. And this new laptop is probably my last x86 laptop. Long live RISC-V.
On the subject of Diablotek power supplies, I never understood the logic behind strangely common practice of naming PSUs or in their case their entire brand after something related to fire or explosions when that's the thing you're trying to avoid most of all. Should I really be that surprised when my 872w Volcanico brand Spicy Fireball VR Ready Gaming PSU detonates?
Just wait till you hear about the popular cheap chinese lithium ion battery brands, Trustfire and Ultrafire. And the knockoff called Uranusfire!
There's also the EVGA SuperNOVA series of PSUs...
Don't mock Gigabyte PSU.
@@adriankelly3338 that last one is when you eat tacobell
@@adriankelly3338 Uranus on fire sounds like a mini sun
This is definitely something to keep an eye on. I think it would be cool to have a Raspberry Pi based on the RISC architecture.
I sometimes get an ich to get a risc v system up. I subscribed to open five for that very reason. Cheers for the video Wendell
Thanks!
Wow! It's nice to see RISC-V expanding out in this direction. I don't think it'll be quite soon, but with dev systems like this out there and all the interest in the platform we might just someday see consumer products featuring RISC-V! Between this at the embedded end and OpenPOWER at the workstation/server end, open harware feels like it's doing pretty well these days.
A motherboard for the Framework laptop featuring this arhitecture/chipset would be kindof mindblowing imho.
with how little cooling this dev board needs it really would be nice to have in a laptop, good thinking
10:48 iirc web browsers tend to be very jit-compilation heavy (because javascript/wasm), and if there isn't support for your ISA, the alternative (direct interpretation) is much slower.
thanks dude! so wonderful to see how far RISC-V has evolved!
I can't wait for this to get installed in some x86 chip stack as some low-power co-processor and slowly bulk up and bulk up until the x86 is vestigial.
Of course we have nowhere near the software environment to facilitate that but slowly but surely I feel like it's coming.
Acorn started with the multi-CPU standards back in the day and it's gonna be the thing that finally dethrones ARM.
Poetry.
I could see risc v chips coming with x86 interpreters like apple’s m1 chip does
The board is cool, and I would love to develop for it, but for a private person developing for fun $1,000 is quite high.
After watching Linus for years. I appreciate your style of video. No Mickey Mouse impersonating no drama or bullshit videos.
It’s also nice to see a channel that doesn’t have the creator burnout that a channel like Linus has, they run out of subjects for videos and substitute it with 3 build videos a week using the same 5 bits of hardware, that immediately go back on the shelf and reused in the next build video 2 days from the last one..
Thank you.
Agree 💯. And his Mickey mouse club lackeys , that channel for razor buying children , he’s the first channel everyone watches UNTIL they find the one they like . Haha
Thanks for Shouting out René and the work he has been doing.
got so excited I ordered one
Ooof almost $700 for this. Hope to see something cheaper in the $200-220 in the next year or two for us hobby level tinkerers.
That sounds like a mass produced board on a well-established assembly line. I wouldn't bet it happen in 2022.
@@jadesprite Fair point. But this could still be cheaper in the next few years as power delivery requirements and such aren't as demanding so should be cheaper BOM.
I would love to fool around with something like this if it was cheaper. At least I can live vicariously through Wendell. ;)
there are cheaper options for risc-v boards
You guys really do a great job on these titles 😃.
7:09 - Diablotek Power Supplies. Oh boy, I have a video on my channel of me taking the hatred out on that devilish piece of work. All stemming from the machines at work randomly dieing years ago. All of them were built out with diablotek cases w/ included psu. 10 out of 20 had scorched or heat stressed wiring.
At around 10:00 in the video, you mention keeping the boot on the SD card but having the boot data on the NVME. Do you think this could work with a dell r720 that can't boot from NVME?
That's crazy that the platform is so far along that you already have gpu drivers running on it over a year ago!
And if compiling is that straight forward that you don't even need to edit code, you could have a lot of fun with that just porting stuff over, running Linux or bsd...
I feel some companies want this a lot, but as of yet i've seen nothing that says i want it.
Just discovered this RISC HW & OS... Lovin IT!
SUBED!
The return to small heatsinks for main processors
IoT devices wouldn't be so insecure if we didn't need to connect them to the companies servers for them to even run. I haven't found a single IoT product that gives the option to just run on a personal close looped network or personal vpn.
that's why it's "internet of things" and not "local area network of things" I suppose.
anyway, I agree. I don't see the point in home automation until there's something genuinely useful to me that doesn't need to connect to the internet and send data to some silicon valley hack to perform its function. The only options that really tempt me are DIY security camera setups that don't use cloud backups
First time here, did not see that great Jazz intro coming. Gave a like right there and then.
The primary technical target is embbeded, and not like phones but specialized small stuff. Thats why the ISA is modular, it allows reduction in design complexity and silicon area while the open source part can leverage a wide range of serious mainstream languages, compilers, and related tools without your whole operational investment being dependent on the whims of a single chip manufacturer.
Computer janitor is my new favorite term; I am adding it to my resume.
I like all of those Hot Wallpapers tabs in the background xD
The reason the web browser was unreasonably slow might be that none of the JavaScript engines have RISC-V backends, so JavaScript has to run in the interpreter, which is slow, and large parts of the web browsers are themselves built in JavaScript, even if the page you’re browsing isn’t
adopting a new architecture is RISCy business id imagine
I'd like to see RISC-V take off.
The comment on the DDOS of hospitals in Kiev, yeah...
Flames actual flames coming out the exhaust fan
Now I just need to find a low power Risc-V board for a nas. My off the shelf nas is getting on 8+ years now, but it has a standby power of like 4w and peak of maybe 20w, add like 5w for the hdd.
Would like a 10g lan(2.5 or 5 would do), and decent zip to handle all those packets. With the last crude tests I ran some years ago it seemed ethernet needed about one core*hz per bit per second.
So a single 500MHz core was needed for 500Mb/sec network transmission. Maybe ethernet adaptors have some packeting asic now to offload some cpu work, but back then it wasn't common.
Also a single 7200rpm spinning drive cannot quite saturate 1g ethernet. But with ssd, m.2 and ram cache sure can, the question is then about the cpu load of compression vs feeding a faster ethernet. Compression having slight side advantage in saving a small amount of high cost ssd storage space but more latency.
I soo hope RiskV wins out. Really feel now is the time to move away from x86 and onwards!
Did they have to destroy that motherboard with the tall heatsinks and noisy ridiculously small fan? They could have extruded a bigger heatsink to cover both cpu and chipset, maybe with a cut in a corner to allow for mounting the wireless card and then use a 40mm or even larger fan.
Fantastic video Wendell!
How different is programming in assembly on RISC-V versus MIPS? I understand the core being RISC would be notable, but I'm unsure how much more the code would differ
HiFive needs a product like EPS32, which has quickly become the darling of Makers
Developers! Developers! Developers!
Developers! 👏Developers!👏Developers!👏
the LPDDR4x32 is why is why is why RISC feels like x86_64 some innovation
Mayphaps we'll see those little things running Crysis smooth as butter.
....in 20 years or so.
honestly i would probably use a distro that tries to be bleeding edge in that thing.
you are a arch guy i can see
ah open source software AND hardware. is this the TNG timeline?
@Wendell can you make a video or a post on how you complied Doom?
How would one of these fair as an OpenWRT wireless router/NAS?
This looks like the perfect option if it's able to handle Wi-Fi 7 data transfer speeds, although the cost of the board for what you get makes running an x86 alternative FAR more appealing.
Sure it can run Doom3, but can it play Chex Quest? Or do the Flemoids gunk things up? :)
Now imagine a cowork with framework guys and make a board for their laptop.
I would love that. Though it'll probable be a long while before they branch out into something like Risc-V for the CPU.
ADA fruit is a member of the RISCV group, so a rasperberry pi compute module maybe the need big thing to me towards this
Where is this product manufactured?
Please do a video on the new RISE-V laptop
Can you do more videos on RISC-V Wendell?
I'm really interested!
Any news on the p670 cores?
I'd love to try out the p670s in something like this.
GAMING ON RISC-V??????!!! OMG YES!!!!!!!!! 1000 dollars??!! Less yes.
Hopefully you will do a more in depth video of the software side in an upcoming video?
The forum link in the description is broken...
Been really enjoying watching René hack just about everything. SGI Octane, PS3, HPPA, you name it, he probably has booted T2 on it.
As a hobbyist, rather than a developer, the lack of an equivalent to bios/uefi is REALLY annoying. But i can see an amazing future of the platform and I hope it does for hardware what linux has done for OS land (its basically taken me 20 years to be able to get out of wintel).
Any thoughts on Rene Rebe trying to build his own linux video driver for the PS3?
the lithium battery regulation is just a plot by cellphone sellers, so you can't import a replacement battery affordably.
Oh no the first power supply I ever bought for a computer. I think I blew it in 3 months just like someone else in the reviews on TigerDirect back in 2008. I think I when really cheap and low power. At the time I never considered having my psu handle 30% more than my system required power. I figure that was a big contributor to why it failed. I replaced it with a 500w Ultra power supply.
Feeding the algorithm with like/sub/bell and comment.
PSA: make a hotkey to help👌
LN2 OC-record attempt. when?
I like the idea of Risc-V and their goal to be accessible for modularity, however a $1k price tag just for the main board... that's a bit steep I'd think. Now if the entire kit which includes the CPU, power supply, ram, hard drives, OS, etc. was at $1k then I would think it to be reasonable.
well... Mips announced that their future chips will be built around risc-v, didn't they ?
Getting nam lvl flash backs with that psu........thanks Wendell.... Thought I got of them
Just 1k dollars? that's cheaper than most Apple stuff nowadays
That, or a monitor stand?
Why do they solder the ram instead of making it cheaper and selling it without RAM and giving this 2 or better 4 DDR 4 Slots?
You should help @JeffGeerling with getting a GPU working on the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4.
He stepped in to say "hi" and then said something to the effect of "gee golly, look at that.. it boots with a GPU and it didn't crash.."
I had a DiabloTek PSU failed the day after the warranty expired. DiabloTek replaced the PSU anyway. I never had one blow up on me.
GCC or Clang as the compiler of choice in the dev tool chain ?
[edit] I know what the answer is so don't know why I asked 😀
[edit 2] I mean you did say shinny and new treading new ground 😊
It's GCC, but Clang is also usable for RISC-V in 2021. Just not as optimized.
Where is sifive chip designer located
8core risc V 2ghz hyper threaded and maybe 1gb cashe?
Does RISC-V have a GPU solution?
Does anyone else remember when RISC was first introduced? It was going to change the world. Now it just might.
What are you talking about? It changed the world. RISC V is a continuation of that domination.
@@juanignacioaschura9437 How did it change the world?
@@anonymousarmadillo6589 The smartphone you have on your pocket wouldn't have been the reality it is had it had x86.
There were so many advantages behind RISC architectures, chief among which are scalability, efficiency and optimization.
Even though x86 now is a hybrid RISC design, it took them over a decade to get behind the CISC pipeline design within the ISA.
Hopefully the price drops overtime...significantly
I think x86 is coming to the end of its usefulness, they seem to have hit a wall with frequency so they're adding more cores. The amount of power used and, therefore, the cooling required has gotten ridiculous. RISC is the future, I think ARM is the clear dominator at the moment, but we need good potential rivals.
Your whole comment proves u know nothing about cpus and how they work
I’m one minute in and this is fun
I'm still waiting for a part 2 :(
Risc-v has amazing architecture and hands down it is faster than ARM and x86/x64. We want more serious boards and CPUs please
Faster by which measure?
@@henrikemppainen2511 The measure he made up.
Last thing I want is ARM to win, I'm ok with x86/amd64 because it's the devil we know and risc-v is awesome because it's open...but I don't need arm coming in as the proprietary devil we don't know -__-
"Lithium Ion that can't wait to catch on fire"... Sigh. An exagerration I know, but still.
smart phones are not lithium ion. they're lithium poly. Teslas are lithium ion and they go boom very well.
Very nice for a very small entry demo cpu
is there anyway to buy this board from europe?
Cool stuff about RISC-V - their SDK uses Yocto/OpenEmbedded - the exact same thing that's been provided for ARM SoCs :D I just came home from work fighting with that for an NXP ARM SoC.
Those 4 cores may be anemic but RISC-V is still new. It has a ton of potential once it matures some more and the software written for it is more optimized. Yeah, I have seen a comparison of that and Raspberry Pi and at this time the Pi mops the floor with it but I think that may change eventually. To me it being open source is what will be the thing to make it a success. Considering the mediocrity of Windows 11, RISC-V and the open source software for it couldn't come soon enough. If you are like me and bought laptop that came with Windows 11 on it, you probably installed Windows 10 on it right away seeing the mess Microsloth made of the UI with "click to show more options starting to show up everywhere. Another horribly annoying thing they do is for changes and updates on you whether you want them or not. They even go completely out of there way to make sure you can't make Windows less annoying. Thankfully there is Linux but how much longer would it be until Microsloth tries to make it so that our desktops can only run Windows? They might say they would not do that but it feels like they don't really care about their customers. Maybe they need a visit from 3 ghosts of computing (past, present, and future) to see the error of their ways and show them how they might chase their customers away if they continue as they are now?
I think it would really help if someone came out with a RISC-V SBC that's about as cheap as a RaspPi.
Love me some RISC-V news
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