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  • @edhdeckbuilding
    @edhdeckbuilding  3 роки тому +6

    you can check out my new series "Building Janky Commander Decks" where i tackle some of these ideas: ua-cam.com/video/7EciSsOcNNM/v-deo.html

  • @k8tinator1
    @k8tinator1 3 роки тому +14

    I built Boros Vampires, it was called the Spanish Inquisition, because no one expected it

    • @DudiTheGreat
      @DudiTheGreat 3 роки тому

      Who pilots it?

    • @k8tinator1
      @k8tinator1 3 роки тому

      @@DudiTheGreat thats honestly the best part. It doesnt matter, you could put like half the boros legends as commanders and nothing would change. I settled on Iroas cause you are attacking alot, but it really personal preference.

  • @keeneyedcommander
    @keeneyedcommander 3 роки тому +40

    A fun deck idea that I've build is Zedruu The War Profiteer. It's a deck full of big scary things like The Locust God, Blightsteel Collosus, Narset Enlightened Master, etc. And you let the other players bid for them. The way I do it is they have to promise a number of upkeeps I get before they are allowed to target or attack me. It's really fun see people bid for cards they don't need but don't want the other players having. I had one guy bid 2 million upkeeps just so the Voltron deck didn't get a sword of fire and ice. And the way you win is you have all these big scary cards that are actually strong, you hit land drops almost every turn since Zedruu draws so many cards, plus you end up with a number of turn where you are free to set up a crazy board.

    • @Kennythesamuri
      @Kennythesamuri 3 роки тому +4

      I have a Golos War Profiteer deck with a bunch of Vow enchantments and illicit auction. I absolutely love this deck, it’s so much fun making deals with the other players!

    • @bulbabrony
      @bulbabrony 3 роки тому +3

      Now just add a homeward path and watch each player's jaw drop as you suddenly get your blightsteel colossus and eldrazi back.

    • @DoctorCataclysm
      @DoctorCataclysm 3 роки тому

      I love this idea.

    • @lava2istrue
      @lava2istrue 3 роки тому +1

      Ooooo. As someone playing a Blim deck, this sounds *hilarious*. gotta make this myself.

    • @Kennythesamuri
      @Kennythesamuri 3 роки тому

      Uggggh now I need a new Arms Dealer Commander now that Golos is out.

  • @really.really.
    @really.really. 3 роки тому +22

    Xanathar booby trap deck, basically an blue artifact recursion with lantern control. Plus booby trap is kinda a flavour win for Xanathar

  • @nathanielcleary5408
    @nathanielcleary5408 3 роки тому +70

    My deck idea: Ramos dragon engine whose goal is to activate door to nothingness three times in a turn.

    • @Midnightdragonblaze
      @Midnightdragonblaze 3 роки тому +7

      In my play group there was someone who managed to achieve something akin to this; Ramos as the commander and Door as a win con. A card that made a huge contribution to the deck was Archelos, Lagoon Mystic to make sure Door could enter untapped for fast activation. The deck ended up being so good that it was eventually taken apart since we focus more on casual play.

    • @cococows
      @cococows 3 роки тому +2

      I tried this with kenrith. Never got 3 but it's a fun challenge

    • @andykester
      @andykester 3 роки тому +1

      i got 2 activations in my jodah build once but never 3

    • @samuelsawyer3521
      @samuelsawyer3521 2 роки тому

      Ramos ramp!

  • @christianbergeron2519
    @christianbergeron2519 3 роки тому +28

    Grozoth and Quest for Ula's Temple. pair really well together. Ula let's you cheat grozoth into play, grozoth fills your hand with a bunch of krakens and stuff, then you can put one into play at the end of EACH turn, not only yours, with Ula.

    • @exewon
      @exewon 3 роки тому +3

      except there are only about 4 other leviathans with mana value 9 printed. And aside from inkwell leviathan they're not that good. I had the same idea and thought, cool flavor. but unfortunally not enough cards for it to make that work

    • @WheelsUp822
      @WheelsUp822 3 роки тому

      All-star of the Grozoth/Pyromancy deck is Zirda. Using 1 mana to ping for 9, or 54 with Fiery Emancipation and Dictate of the Twin Gods on the field feels amazing.

  • @Tomoffy
    @Tomoffy 3 роки тому +24

    Bringing back the intro music, nice. I actually tried making an off color goblins deck and an off color zombie deck.

    • @aaronupward
      @aaronupward 3 роки тому +2

      Stuff like this is fun honestly, I made a non-green lands deck and it's one of my favourite decks to play

    • @tomslater8374
      @tomslater8374 3 роки тому +1

      how is this comment 2 weeks old but the video is only 1 what

    • @aaronupward
      @aaronupward 3 роки тому +1

      @@tomslater8374 Magic

  • @thefrozengoat
    @thefrozengoat 3 роки тому +10

    This was such a fun video. I was scratching my head recently trying to dig for a new interesting build. Got a ton of ideas here! These are my favorite types of Commander videos on UA-cam, so thanks so much.

  • @hovercar00
    @hovercar00 3 роки тому +10

    I spent most of the evening after watching this last night making a deck around Booty Trap with Brudiclad as commander. The goal is to use clone & animate effects to make as many Booby Traps as possible and while utilizing bounce to top of library and look at top of library effects to maximize the BOOM. I think it needs more draw and some tweaking but I feel like it's off to a good start.

    • @hovercar00
      @hovercar00 3 роки тому +4

      update: was brewing this idea with a friend and apparently since the Brudiclad 'tokens become a copy of target artifact effect' doesn't involve an ETB you don't get to name a card, making those copies uesless. I've restarted my brew going with Orvar as a commander and I think I've worked out a deck that can do infinit Booby Traps and exile opponents libraries based on which combo I draw into first.

  • @Acgf1569874
    @Acgf1569874 3 роки тому +2

    Your ideas really made me think! If you want to build this ideas, maybe this will help:
    1- Grozoth works well with Braids commander. He will fill your hand and braids put the permanents on the battlefield. Kind of a show and tell effect;
    2- Linessa: love the idea of this commander. Maybe "mimic vat" or Sakashima her, put on your hand and discard it. Maybe "mirror gallery" on the table, clone and one discard for multiple effects. This can be so easier if mtg had a spy kit effect for card in your hand...

  • @lokidragon8725
    @lokidragon8725 3 роки тому +4

    It was me who had the no.6 inspiration deck I've since taken my mono green control deck apart and taken the pieces to make a gruul stax/control deck, mainly inspired by a lot of the mono red stax enchantments in your ten cards videos (smoke, mudslide etc)! It's not quite in it's most tuned form yet but it's been really interesting to build.

  • @simeonriess9526
    @simeonriess9526 3 роки тому +10

    The exile theme is also already a part of my "Oona queen of fea " the search and exile is nice in combination with "oblivion sower" exile their lands then get all of them on your board, super nice 👌

  • @maxwellwarren2720
    @maxwellwarren2720 Місяць тому

    I gotta say I’ve really been appreciating how well you enunciate without being overanimated in your speech, you sound very genuine in the way you share your knowledge and opinions, and I’m grateful you do share them, although I gotta say my pod isn’t all too thrilled

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  Місяць тому

      appreciate it. i pride myself an being genuine. no acting, no script. everything you see is just the real me.

  • @StahliCell
    @StahliCell 3 роки тому +10

    For Grozoth: Green myojin of life's web is one of the best cards to have on the battlefield if you cast Grozoth; just remove the counter and play all your big 9 drops :D

    • @Kendo47Wowgeek
      @Kendo47Wowgeek 3 роки тому +2

      I built a Grozoth deck because I show that Myojun exists. Just have Sacellum Godspeaker on the field when you get Grozoth out, guaranteed mana to cast Myojin then you flood the board with every single 9 cost creature in your deck.

    • @WheelsUp822
      @WheelsUp822 3 роки тому +1

      Built the Grozoth deck, played Grozoth getting 23 nine drops, pyromancy got exiled with Myojin on the battlefield. Removed the counter from Myojin and it felt real good.

    • @Kendo47Wowgeek
      @Kendo47Wowgeek 3 роки тому

      @Jamie what would you use to cheat omniscience onto the field? Or would you have to have the 9 Mana to cast it?

    • @ianshevlin8675
      @ianshevlin8675 2 роки тому

      @Jamie omniscience is 10 cmc not 9, so tou cant get it with grozoth :c

  • @josht9518
    @josht9518 3 роки тому +5

    Challenge for you: if you make a Noggle Tribal deck, I'll buy the entire deck list right now. Been a dream of someone very close to me for a while now, but I just don't think there are enough or a shared theme to build around there 😔
    Also, love the video. Been watching you climbing for a while now. Keep up the great work in these trying and confusing times. We appreciate you more than a subscriber count can show. 👍

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 роки тому +1

      Technically you can if you put in a lot of changlings as they are all creature types

    • @josht9518
      @josht9518 3 роки тому

      @Jamie yep. Looking for that return to Lorwyn nobody wants.

  • @rowankeltizar5961
    @rowankeltizar5961 3 роки тому +3

    The phasing deck really has me intrigued!
    Grozoth needs black or possibly green to to work I think for the ability to tutor himself. And likely recursion will be a good pairing
    Extract is a great library exile card at just 1 blue mana. With something like infinite Reiterate or maybe a high storm count with thousand year storm it can be a win con. I think Kess is a fantastic commander for that deck.
    I have a deck where all non-land cards are artifacts. Another without creatures. Mulling over an enchantment only deck too.

  • @skargann
    @skargann 2 роки тому +1

    I think the color for grandeur theme is the green. His effects allows him to take him from the graveyard into your hand with Paleoloth. And if you want to copy it, just use an artifact like mirage mirror to copy Baru. Then discard Baru, create a wurm. Paleoloth allows us to recover Baru from our graveyard in our hand and discard him again and again.
    The solution for grandeur theme deck is Mirage mirror and a way to take back your Grandeur from your Graveyard to your hand.
    It's pretty easy for Korlash
    Oriss, Lynessa and Tarox are the challenging ones for this

  • @kopakanuva566
    @kopakanuva566 3 роки тому +1

    I took it upon myself to try and build that Linessa deck around Grandeur, and I found that it was possible to activate many times per turn but it takes 11 mana per loop, so you gotta have a lot of that lol! The combo I found was to play Linessa, clone her, sac the original, play both The Underworld Cookbook and a Cogwork Assembler, make a token of the cookbook, and use that to get Linessa back in your hand!
    Now you can do that again, assuming you have another 11 mana to spend. This combo also works with infinite mana, to bounce everything but that isnt as fun. If you just wanna do it once on every turn, Prototype Portal with an Underworld cookbook on it, an unwinding clock and some mana rocks amounts to a fresh set of bounces every untap step
    I really hope you end up looking into this deck as well, it was tons of fun to find the ways to actually get Grandeur off :P
    PS. Codex shredder also works instead of cookbook, but its 1 mana more per loop.

    • @stephensilverstein4855
      @stephensilverstein4855 2 роки тому

      Similar thought, IsoRev works for infinite mana and my thought was using the two clones that aren't legenary (Spark Double and Sakashima) so you don't have to sac so you only have to have infinite self bounce. Honestly think the deck can be strongish. Running things like entropic portal of vedlkan mastermind. to self bounce and using spark double and sakashima as clones of Linessa. With stuff like Vedlkan mastermind you can even run some stasis locks as well. And the nice thing is IsoRev also just gives you infinite EtB and bounce all opponent's creatures even if you don't have any other part of the combo going with just Linessa. Might even be able run some tap untap synergy in the deck so Dramatic Rev isn't a dead card without the combo and with blue shuffle / spell recursion you can still get it back to combo later into the game. I think you can make this a sneaky good deck that on the face doesn't look scary at all and would be neat for people to see. Maybe running some kind of command beacon, crucible of worlds, entropic portal loops for like a 5 mana and your land drop as a way of looping once per turn. Although that seems sketchy. Can run things like Spellseeker, Snapcaster, or even Gilded Drake if you wanted to get nasty with your commander.

  • @sindur3446
    @sindur3446 3 роки тому +4

    Barren Glory seems like a combo card to me. Like, resolve Barren Glory, Oblivion Ring it, then cast Kaervek’s Spite on the end step before your turn begins.

    • @kaiseremotion854
      @kaiseremotion854 2 роки тому

      does barren glory still win if everything is phased out?

  • @willowdelosrios4326
    @willowdelosrios4326 2 роки тому +1

    In casual I once had a kobold deck (back before the D&D sets actually added new kobolds). It wasn’t actually able to win games, but the look on the other players face when I played four zero mana creatures on turn one was priceless.

  • @aaronupward
    @aaronupward 3 роки тому +1

    Literally just put together a Barren Glory deck 2 weeks ago. It's an Atogatog deck, using effects like Enchanted Evening and Mycosynth Lattice to make all Permanents 1 type to make them easier to sacrifice. Greater Gargodon is the MVP in that deck for anyone wanting to try out the strategy, have not won with it yet though.

  • @justinlake1828
    @justinlake1828 3 роки тому +1

    I love the tribal ideas. I want to build non-blue faeries, but my deckbuilding skills maybe aren't up to it. I think it would have to be black-green with a bunch of tribal artifacts. The crab tribal idea is inspired!

  • @Gillymanification
    @Gillymanification 3 роки тому +2

    An interesting adaptation to number 7 would be searching players libraries to exile lands specifically, then playing cards like Consuming Aberration or Balustrade Spy to mill their whole deck in one shot

  • @aaronupward
    @aaronupward 3 роки тому +1

    That Sands of Time interaction is brutal. Just hearing skip your untap step felt like a gut punch

  • @bluecharcoal8620
    @bluecharcoal8620 3 роки тому +3

    Well done on 20k subs it's a huge achievement! Great to see this channel grow keep up the great content.

  • @jamsaus8415
    @jamsaus8415 3 роки тому +5

    You should have way more than 20k subs with your amazing content. Keep up the good job mate

  • @JohnShire387
    @JohnShire387 3 роки тому +2

    I remember your painter servant deck that you made once. You could declare black and use an enchantment called Life force where you pay 2 green to counter a black spell

  • @TheZaros666
    @TheZaros666 3 роки тому +3

    I was trying to figure out how to effectively abuse booby trap a couple days ago, I also thought copying it, but then I thought, muldrotha for easy recursion, and turn the artifact into a creature and copy it that way.

  • @de245733
    @de245733 3 роки тому +9

    I have a barren glory deck, I've win maybe a total of 3 times but dear god was it glorious when I do.
    The main way is Oblivion ring exiling barrenglory, then apocalypse the board, which means when apocalypse resolves, barren glory would comback to the board being the only card on board.

    • @wikidclowne6891
      @wikidclowne6891 3 роки тому

      More expensive but you could also cast decree of annihilation with barren glory being your only enchantment.

    • @hotstepper3969
      @hotstepper3969 3 роки тому

      Use Kaervek’s Spite and Oblivion Ring

    • @de245733
      @de245733 3 роки тому

      @@wikidclowne6891 nice suggestion, how ever I am in jeskai so I can run counters so I can actually protect casting apocalypse

  • @facelessgames94
    @facelessgames94 3 роки тому +2

    I just gave my mate the challenge of a mono Red life gain deck using Toralf and lifelink. He's allowed to play aetherflux reservoir, BUT he can only use it on creatures.

  • @johncrossley6945
    @johncrossley6945 2 роки тому +3

    Library of Leng is a must include in a grandeur deck. God I love old school sometimes.

    • @PokePotato
      @PokePotato 2 роки тому +1

      I don't believe that works as you're discarding the card to a cost and therefore it is not affected by library of leng

  • @ewanporteous2232
    @ewanporteous2232 3 роки тому

    I have a few decks that meet your challenge already!
    A Moritte of the Frost Sliver deck, which was pretty easy too put together.
    More complicated though was my Endrek Sahr Bitter Ordeal deck. It usually takes about 7-8 turns turns to pop off, but once it does, it can make so many thrulls, that are continually sacrificed for mana and card draw, that i have exiled two peoples libraries at once with Bitter Ordeal.
    My last is a Zenith Flare cycling deck. Whole point of the deck is too cast zenith flare multiple times to take a player out in one turn. Including the right cards to continually get Zenith Flare from my graveyard, copy it, make sure it gets cast successfully and ensuring my graveyard is protected at all times, is the tricky bit. It is helmed by Gavi.

  • @VirsaTylePlays
    @VirsaTylePlays 3 роки тому +1

    For the assemble, I have a 5 Color Najeela deck (Cause she needs to carry it and she makes tokens for sacrifice) where I use all the Heralds and the panther for spirit of the night. It’s super jank, but putting more ways to search for creatures helps immensely like Protean Hulk or even defense of the heart. Probably one of my favorite decks to play.

  • @nathanoneill9586
    @nathanoneill9586 3 роки тому +1

    Bitter Ordeal sounds like a great payoff for the gravecrawler/altar loop I have in one of my decks 😁 Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @PeliPelaaja
    @PeliPelaaja 3 роки тому +1

    This video has so many great ideas that I'm sure Wizards going to make a Commander that makes one of these really playable at some point.

  • @jannapieralski6349
    @jannapieralski6349 3 роки тому

    I have a really cool Baren Glory mono white deck. Basically I wanted to go hard way and not include these obliterate red stuff, so my chose was... Kataki. My only wincon is through barren glory, in deck there are tons of artefacts that want to die from Kataki, I mill myself pretty hard too. To win with Bren Glory we need to find either combo with Mycosynth Lattice or some artefact that empty our hand plus claws of gix or renounce and voila. The looks of my friends were priceless ;)

  • @Vertze
    @Vertze 2 роки тому

    I play Barren Glory in my Celestial Kirin deck. It's spirit tribal with a bit of a stax theme. The idea is to use Kirin's ability to keep wiping different mana values off the board until you find Ugin's Conjurant which, with Kirin in play, destroys all zero mana value permanents when cast. Float all your mana before doing this, and as long as you have enough mana to cast an effect like Hour of Revelation and pop a Barren Glory off after, you've got the Barren Glory win on your upkeep! Fleeting Spirit is also needed sometimes to discard any extra cards from your hand before you go for it. It's a tough line to pull off but it feels great to accomplish such a silly win!

  • @BarbeqdBrwniez
    @BarbeqdBrwniez 5 місяців тому

    For the off-color theme, i have a mono-red Superfriends deck helmed by Jaya Ballard, and theres a LOT of red "control" cards that require discarding, so to generate that card advantage i use Phoenixes that return to my hand from the GY.

  • @canoli62
    @canoli62 Рік тому

    I think a way to do two of these challenges at one time is to do the Spirit of the Night "Assemble" Deck with a "Really Weird Tribe" Deck: Nightstalker Tribal. There are 12 nightstalkers in all and 3 of them sac for Spirit. I'm going to give it a try... Have to think of a couple things to make it viable first:
    1) What payoff will there be? A Hasty Trampling 6/6 is nice, but not exactly a powerhouse these days and hardly a good plan to win a game.
    2) What commander to use that helps in some way get this all done.
    Other thoughts I have right off the bat are:
    1) maybe this is a good idea for a super budget deck. Every card in the tribe added up costs less than 12 bucks.
    2) maybe go for SUPER challenging and make this an OLD SCHOOL deck as well. The newest card in the tribe is Fen Stalker from Prophecy (2000).
    All in all VERY interesting deck idea.

  • @nickswan2247
    @nickswan2247 3 роки тому +1

    Spy Kit + Magnetic Theft + Eradicate/Legion's End. Exiles all creatures from an opponent's hand, gy, and library.
    You can do it with non-permanent creature steal as well (claim the firstborn, etc) but then it takes 2 turns.

    • @joaolargado
      @joaolargado 3 роки тому

      This can be real fun in a Blim, comedic genius deck. It's on theme already.
      But legions end doesnt work like eradicate because it interacts just with the hand and gy.
      You can do the "same" if you use men lands and Sowing Salt, tho.

  • @ashtonhudson404
    @ashtonhudson404 3 роки тому +3

    Booby trap with B/U with sealed fate and other spells that you look at the top cards of opponents library and put back in any order. I made it 20 plus years ago but not commander. Sill should be doable now.

  • @lanaalways
    @lanaalways 3 роки тому

    I was already building crab tribal and it was so cool to see the scuttletide mention, a card I've been wanting a long time

  • @daughtervodka
    @daughtervodka 3 роки тому

    I've got a Snakes and Thopters deck I really love. The whole idea is just making thopter and snake tokens and having them pilot my Kaladesh airships. It's pretty silly, and a lot of fun. Generally people are pretty entertained when I pull it out, and I get a lot of good complements about the creativity behind it. I think building goofy and strange decks is healthy for the format for sure.

  • @ManjMau
    @ManjMau Рік тому

    I was once trying to brew a voltron assemble tribal deck using party Tazri. She gives access to all colors and has the ability to search for cards, also the party mechanic in-itself is a type of assemble so you can include that along with the theme.

  • @solrac4270
    @solrac4270 3 роки тому

    I'm happy that my ideia of grandeur made into the video. I have a korlash deck, pretty cool hahaha i use self mill + clone effects (mirage mirror) and others, for the win conditions i use the blackblade reforge for a big hit, or some landfall swamps effects sinergies. And yes, i'have managed to win a game, one time at least :D

  • @jimharris5320
    @jimharris5320 2 роки тому

    My current challenge deck is Arahbo 'cat tribal' deck that is filled with changelings. There really weren't many quality white/greens/colorless ones until Khaldheim helped out. Then I toss in other non-cat/tribal/anthem effects to buff the team. Plus, a turn 1 Universal Automaton bashing in on turn 2 for 4 damage is hilarious.

  • @vanessaeve925
    @vanessaeve925 3 роки тому +1

    I had a mono-green Warrior tribal deck with Sosuke, Son of Seshiro deck for a while that was a lot of fun

  • @josephjelinski1489
    @josephjelinski1489 3 роки тому

    I had a lot of fun building a dimir Vecna Copies deck. commander was silas renn and sakashima partners. whole deck was basically artifact tutors and copy spells. objective: assemble vecna, break the legends rule, copy, profit.

  • @l33tbishop
    @l33tbishop 3 роки тому

    I used to use the Grozoth explicitly for its transmute back when it and Dragonstorm were in standard. It was such a good tutor for that wincon :)

  • @CosmicGiggalo
    @CosmicGiggalo 3 роки тому

    For exiling the library, Im so glad you mentioned Supreme Inquisitor as it is one of my favorite win-cons for my Kaho, Minamo Historian deck. It runs a critical mass of wizards as well as Kaho to find Dramatic Reversal and the like to untap my board with Supreme Inquisitor to exile my opponent's libraries.
    Its definitely on that comes out of nowhere.

  • @juliencandrian7206
    @juliencandrian7206 3 роки тому

    For the [Barren Glory] wincon strategy, you could do it "easily" with a [Dream Devourer] foretelling [Barren Glory] then playing [Kaervek's Spite] (As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice all permanents you control and discard your hand. Target player loses 5 life)
    Of course then you'd need to wait for your upkeep or you find a way to play the [Barren Glory] at instant speed before your turn as [Kaervek's Spite] is instant speed.

  • @WhiteTurtlez
    @WhiteTurtlez 3 роки тому +1

    Barren Glory slots right into my Atogatog deck, it has popped off once but that's all I need

  • @LadyTsunade777
    @LadyTsunade777 3 роки тому

    I've made a few odd decks before, and they were all fun in their own ways:
    Naya Artifacts with Sidar Kondo and Akiri: tall with Akiri and equipment, wide with Sidar with servos/myr/thopters/constructs
    Exile-mill with Cosima: basically what you had with all the exile from library cards, but it's in mono blue with vehicle tribal
    Hand-mill with Azami: the whole idea of this deck was to get everyone else to have their whole library in their hands instead of in graveyards or exile. Basically, it had as many of the cards that made all players have no max hand size, and that made all players draw large numbers of cards without discarding any. Win-con being making your opponents draw from empty libraries while all their cards are already in their hands, and you don't lose thanks to draw replacement effects like Archmage's Ascension or Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar.
    Also, one more idea for unconventional decks: Phage or Haakon, since they have to be cast from your hand/grave instead of anywhere else. There's been a good number of support made for them lately, with Command Beacon and Netherborn Altar, as well as Torpor Orb for Phage.

  • @gatodeluvas6514
    @gatodeluvas6514 3 роки тому +1

    Gnostro with a tap-untap tribal deck. Use jeskai ascendenci and Chackram Retriever for that. Maybe Niv-Mizzet and Curiosity too

  • @EronZalez
    @EronZalez 2 роки тому

    I've got an old Surrak slivers deck, and maybe now it could be better with maskwood nexus and newer tribal cards... I'm glad other people try this kind of stuff

  • @AndyB30
    @AndyB30 3 роки тому

    My first commander deck was Riku and I had Biovisionary as a wincon. Copying Biovisionary with Riku's second ability and then also copy my clones.
    It made it janky sometimes but sometimes I pulled it off and it felt very satisfying.

  • @cheddargobIin
    @cheddargobIin 3 роки тому +1

    Happy 20k, brother!

  • @makesquash
    @makesquash 2 роки тому +1

    Shutting off Teferis Protection by removing the untapped phase is also lore friendly. Teferi phased out the city of Zalfir, shown in the art. But was unable to phase it back in.

  • @Ninja_Geek
    @Ninja_Geek 3 роки тому

    Just something that I'm running in my Nicol Bolas deck, but can be put in any deck with dimir colors, is Filth paired with Urborg Tomb to give all your creatures swampwalk. I put this in my Bolas deck is so I can garuntee the on hit effect when I get the 2 cards I need.
    The reason it works best with dimir colors is most of the surveil cards are blue and/or black.

  • @derHexenhammer
    @derHexenhammer 2 роки тому

    In the old days I had a deck that phased everything out then only allowed itself to phase in. I used sands of time, vision charm , reality ripple, equipoise, Teferi's realm. It even negated the odd tapping effect sands of time imposed with Chimeric idol.... But only for its self. The opponent still suffered. Only creature was Merieke Ri Berit. And she a slick killer with sands of time.

  • @coreyroberson4550
    @coreyroberson4550 3 роки тому +1

    Biovisionary has been a bit too "oops, I win" in my Esix deck. I might take it out.
    And I did alternate wincon tribal before. It was weird - you never knew what strategy would win, but neither did the opponents.

  • @project_swift
    @project_swift 3 роки тому

    I had a Marcheza deck (Marcheesea) which was built entirely around The Cheese Stands Alone. It was brilliant

  • @SilverFoxPlays87
    @SilverFoxPlays87 3 роки тому

    I put Tree of Perdition + Triskaidekaphobia in my Mimoplasm EDH deck. It's a surprising stalemate ender. And although I'm not purposely build around that combo I'm often searching it out with tutors to win against life gain decks or prison decks.

  • @coryirvin6651
    @coryirvin6651 2 роки тому

    This is one of my favorite topics for EDH, jank decks usually leads me to the greatest joy I get from deck building. I'm not here to win, I'm here to be on theme. First and foremost, I'm a vorthos player. So I have a Phyrexian deck with esper Ertai at the helm, all cards relate to Phyrexia, primarily original phyrexia. I have a Jund spell slinger deck with Xira leading it, which was made as a challenge and has become one of my favorite decks. I have a lovecraftian themed deck lead by Wrexial (though Gyruda would work too) where all cards relate to Lovecraft lore in some way. I also had an off color tribe deck with boros slivers, with new Gerrard at the helm, built around looping Spiteful Sliver.

  • @mariusmsschneider
    @mariusmsschneider 3 роки тому

    I'm currently building 2 decks, a simple artifact deck and a sphinx-tribal deck. But I didn't like the typical style of winning there... Idea #10 is perfect for combining them and win with that booby trap. It's like the sphinx are foretelling the end of the world with their visions. So cool

  • @romelalters8078
    @romelalters8078 3 роки тому

    While building my Jodah deck I stumbled upon Grozot on a binder in my LGS and got it for like under a dollar and became one of my wincon, getting zacama, plague wind, in garruk's wake, void winower, myojin of life's web, and mnemonic deluge for WUBRG makes me enemy of the table 😅

  • @greysonmiller9407
    @greysonmiller9407 3 роки тому

    ALTERNATE WIN CON! Im making a hedron alignment deck now thank you for helping me remember about that card!

  • @mio122397
    @mio122397 4 місяці тому

    My brother recently built a Linessa deck that focused on Grandeur and its pretty cool. Uses Ashes of the Fallen and Myr Reservoir to get her back every turn or potentially infinitely

  • @Sir-Darmek
    @Sir-Darmek 3 роки тому

    My "janky" deck thats been a blast to play is my Kogla king kong theme deck. I also had a super janky maralen of the mornsong deck revolving around neverending torment. Was 93 swamps and the other 7 cards were maralen, neverending torment, dark ritual, ad nauseum, reliquary tower, boseiju and culling the weak

  • @LiamBaterzz
    @LiamBaterzz 3 роки тому

    I love my selesnya burn deck its so fun to pilot highly recommended the off colour theme thing.

  • @mitchwhite8941
    @mitchwhite8941 3 роки тому

    My favorite content creator with the best intro music

  • @dustenhostetler-vanderzee2296
    @dustenhostetler-vanderzee2296 3 роки тому

    I also am building mono-green control. I'm currently using Yosan, the Wanderer Bard as my commander. I like the challenge

  • @Purple.mind...Honored.one.
    @Purple.mind...Honored.one. 3 роки тому +1

    I was in the middle of building Jodah, Archmage Etrnal when I found it, But now I'm tempted to put it with asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
    As a grixis build

  • @nikos731
    @nikos731 3 роки тому

    I can proudly say that I have already completed 2 of the challenges.
    #6: My Naya Control deck with Zacama as the commander is one of the most powerful decks I own.
    #7: My Zedruu junky combo deck that has 147 variations of 22 unique 4-card combos has some with Barren Glory lines as well. Barren Glory+Leave//Chance+Nahiri's Wrath/Temporal Cascade+Temporal Mastery/Leyline of Anticipation/Vedalken Orray is the most usual one.
    I think I will go for the Booby trap deck next, probably a UW build. I feel that cards that put cards on top of their owner's libraries (Unexpetably Absent, Submerge, Memory Lapse, etc) will work well....

  • @lava2istrue
    @lava2istrue 3 роки тому

    A silly thing that my blim deck “can do” (but which isn’t its main thing) is assembling what I call “blimTron”. What I do, is play blim. Have him hit someone, and make him donate himself to them, before goading it with a goad aura (assault suit also works, but I don’t have that card yet).
    What happens is blim is forced to attack, and his damage trigger of donating a permanent is not optional. A player’s best option is to then donate blim. So he just bounces around among your opponents.

  • @julianwolf9770
    @julianwolf9770 3 роки тому

    I always do off-color tribes or off themes.
    Red Blue Urza - Izzet Urza? (Commander is Jhoira)
    Abzan Vampires - Nethroi, Apex of Death
    Zombie/Crab Tribal - Ghost of Ramirez Pietro and Tormad the Desecrator
    Political Slivers - Commander is Kenrith with many humans and politics cards in the deck. Surprise the group by finishing them all at once when you are ready to drop your sliver bomb surprise.

  • @JohnTalbane87
    @JohnTalbane87 3 роки тому

    The original build of my Karona chaos decks win con was a combo of: Hive mind, Last Chance, and either Chronatog or Chronatog totem (to eat my extra turn thus keeping me alive). Called it the “Ireland will win but, Krum will get the Snitch”strategy. Unfortunately my local play group has huge hate boners for both chaos and enchantments so I never quite got there.

  • @writingresearch
    @writingresearch 2 роки тому

    I have two decks I use that work on exile. The easiest combo I know is Rest in Peace with Helm of Obedience. I use this as an alternate win condition. If Rest in Peace is on the field you can activate the tap ability of the helm for 1 and it exiles their entire library. It does that because nothing ever hits the graveyard to stop the effect. My other I do to myself. I have a Grolnok The Omnivore deck. I built his deck with absolutely no basic land. Couple that with Hermit Druid while Grolnok is on the field and I exile my entire library with Croak counters and can play any of the cards. I play Thassa's Orcale from exile and win or play Lab Mac and get a card draw to win.

  • @tylerbattaglini8257
    @tylerbattaglini8257 3 роки тому +1

    I made a mono blue landfall deck. It’s pretty nasty. Love making bank decks. Drives my playgroup insane when I pull of weird stuff all the time lol

    • @dreddbolt
      @dreddbolt 3 роки тому

      Closest I've come to blue and landfall so far (without green) is my Glacian // Toggo artifacts and landfall Izzet partner deck.

  • @samedwards3186
    @samedwards3186 3 роки тому

    Best intro music on UA-cam rn, well earned sub count!!

  • @stfinalwrath
    @stfinalwrath 2 роки тому

    An easier way to abuse grandeur would probably be helm of the host paired with bounce effects like crystal shard, then you can use something like Phyrexian reclamation to add it back to hand. You can also use the commander legends sakashima and spark double. Then you can just clone Sakashima or spark double repeatedly to get additional non-legendary grandeur copies to make it significantly harder to remove without a board wipe.

  • @Closer2Zero
    @Closer2Zero 3 роки тому

    Oh man I remember Mayael’s Aria and the cool instant win combo in my old Naya deck. As i understood it, you could use Mossbridge Troll’s effect to gain 20 Power for the turn right before Aria would check and youd win on the spot

  • @t.s.8430
    @t.s.8430 2 роки тому

    Glissa, the Traitor is the best commander imo for any 'special' artifact deck (Jester's Cap, Booby Trap, Mindslaver) She is the easiest to make sure you keep your artifacts after each use.

  • @borislibaque1558
    @borislibaque1558 3 роки тому

    Oketra Black Zombies. You can also use Living Weapons. And Phyexian Processor to make more black creatures.
    For Puzzle Piece decks Captain Sissay is where its at. The Weatherlight helps you find stuff and she can go herself to find stuff. The quests I like to give her are the sword, shield and helm of Kaldra, Bruna and Gisela, the tron lands, there's 5 white humans that find 5 white planeswalkers, and of course her other crew members.
    The Teferi's Protection thing is pretty funny. In the lore he actually phased the whole island out to save it from catastrophe, though it was also abit of an experiment, and he could'nt figure out how to bring it back. That would be a flavour win.
    I have a near-death experience deck actually, its a modern deck but tons of fun.
    And also a deck-destruction modern deck....Demo we're really similar wow!
    My current challenge is a lifegain Kearvak the Merciless deck. not easy in Raktos but very excited :)
    Here's a fun challenge: build a deck where you don't use mana. and yes, its possible

  • @donovanloreman
    @donovanloreman 3 роки тому

    I make weird decks all the time. I love doing things people say cant and dont work. Back in 2013 I built Kiki-Jiki because everyone was saying monored and monowhite was impossible. I built Edgar Markov as a control deck. Jank is just fun

  • @denisav3089
    @denisav3089 3 роки тому

    In my janky decks I have a mono-green Wurm tribal (no lords, because there are no actual wurm lords), that is just big mana and a bunch of big vanilla creatures.
    Also, I have a Golos, alternate wincon tribal, with a bunch (12) of them and good-stuffy cards that help towards the conditions.
    An idea I wanted to try on off-color themes, is making a black-less reanimator. I was thinking Selesnya because there a few reanimate effects in those colors. But I saw someone the other day in a stream playing an Azorius reanimator, looked kinda fun.

  • @skelibopeli6765
    @skelibopeli6765 2 роки тому

    That phasing stuff is straight up evil, i love it.

  • @stephensilverstein4855
    @stephensilverstein4855 2 роки тому

    Linessa Grandeur Deck - IsoRev Spark Double / Sakashima. Some way to self bounce your Linessa Entropic Portal etc or. Use one of the two clones of Linessa if they're not summoning sick and you have the IsoRev Infinite mana going. Bounces everything your opponents owns. Nice part is IsoRev is also just good with Linessa as it removes all creatures from the table and gives you infinite EtBs. While 'janky' honestly could be very strong and way less scary than say a Venser in the command zone.

  • @bananaking3992
    @bananaking3992 3 роки тому

    One of my favorite decks I own is my Mazes End Alt Win Con deck.
    It obviously wins on Mazes end mainly, but I love, Door to Nothingness on it.

  • @nicolasbriozzo9861
    @nicolasbriozzo9861 3 роки тому

    I was looking for cards on how to make Barren Glory work (perhaps phasing and trigger some apocalypse effect so it would survive and phase in on your next turn) until i found Decree of Annihilation: It does EVERYTHING you need for 10 mana, it will actually exile everything (including cards in hand!) BUT enchantments, so if you have your barren glory on the table, (and no other enchantments) just play the decree, wait until your next turn (or gain an extra turn) and voila!

  • @Ryluth
    @Ryluth 3 роки тому +1

    I'm working on a Bant Level- up deck that acts like a blink deck too, level up is a slow mechanic, but there is this one blue creature that adds 2 level counters to each creature when it enters the battlefield. That's where the blink comes into it. I"m not sure what else to add to it. There isn't a whole lot level up creatures, some of them are interesting and could be win conditions.

    • @PhoenicopterusR
      @PhoenicopterusR 3 роки тому

      Proliferate is your friend in that deck, since they use counters. Flicker/proliferate seems like an interesting way to abuse level up creatures.

  • @skullkid19200
    @skullkid19200 2 роки тому

    Congrats on 20k subs! You deserve it. The channel is great!
    I'm very intrigued by the idea of exiling my opponents library, as well as the idea of an esper burn deck, lol.
    While infinite combo isn't the most unusual win con, I've got a Sydri infinite combo control deck I'm finishing up where all the combos incorporate turning a non-creature artifact into a creature.
    Like summoning station and intruder alarm, or any 3+ mana rock and voltaic construct.

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja 3 роки тому

    Another idea for the #10 is going at least UW, playing wizened rogues as well as Lantern and using Hanna's Ship Navigator to return the artifacts and enchantments to your hand (i guess these cards fit into a Sharuun list as well).

  • @dluger19
    @dluger19 3 роки тому

    I did the off color theme for all 5 mono color decks. My favorite is my mono blue group hug deck. It doesn't really mill or counter, just draws cards until everyone loses. I didn't run lab man or jace either.

  • @Badassest
    @Badassest 2 роки тому

    This is so hilarious! Love it! The booby trap/magister/closet setup is fascinating, really i love all these challenges and made a challenge deck as well- a codie, vociferous codex deck with every archive spell from strixhaven, i have this deck built but its missing something, im not sure what but following with codies rule- no permanent spells in the deck at least. Oh- there is i think 84 archive spells so that leaves almost no room for land although i have considered the mdfc lands from zendikar. It it beautiful btw:)

  • @orangewhip3025
    @orangewhip3025 3 роки тому

    Man, I would love to see full decktechs made around grim reminder and booby trap. Love those ideas.

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  3 роки тому

      are you subscribed? make sure you are or you'll miss out: ua-cam.com/video/7EciSsOcNNM/v-deo.html

  • @BastionKid
    @BastionKid 3 роки тому

    One of the alternate wincons in my Maralen of the Mornsong/ Ad Nauseum deck is Neverending torment after I fill my hand with all the lands from my deck.

  • @ianmc57117
    @ianmc57117 3 роки тому

    Built a Grandeur deck based from this video I'm excited to play it haha

  • @shayich8382
    @shayich8382 3 роки тому

    One of the ideas I was working on was temporary permanent removal. Using monowhites blink effects but using sundial of the Infinite to skip the end step and do basically mass exile

    • @shayich8382
      @shayich8382 3 роки тому

      For the blue black granduer I was going to say new Sakashima and Tevesh szat using a ninjitsu and clone deck. You can use the ninjas as a garunteed bounce and have mirror gallery in the deck and the command zone. I don't know how well it would work but I think that would be closer to a garuntee to trigger granduer

  • @simeonriess9526
    @simeonriess9526 3 роки тому

    I got a rebel tribal deck with goal to win with "near-death experience"
    With tutor effects and enchantment recurring
    And plenty of ways to redirect the damage taken and going life "pious warrior " and " children of korlis " are key cards, never lost with it , but the last turn always ends in a tone of math