I remember starting to go out on club rides on my Carlton Corsa sports bike until I bought a Claud Butler Torino frame. I had it re sprayed by a club member called Colin Laing who used to build frames in his garage. The older club members would give me bits and pieces till in the end I had a pretty decent road bike. I always wanted a Gios but never got around to getting one I did have a Gazelle in the same colour though 👍
That's such a familiar progression - my dad started with a 'Raleigh Sports Model', upgraded a few parts, got something a bit better, did some hill-climbs and grass-track racing, then switched to the League & bought a Holdsworth. Gazelle - what a classic Dutch marque. I remember them with TVM in the 90s when the downtube was 'Gios Blue'
Very interesting Gordon, you’re a proper bike geek (compliment), it’s great that you’ve kept and enjoyed your Gios, a beautiful bike and really good value looking back although quite exclusive in the day. As for weight, I think it’s still good, maybe not an Andrew Feather climber but 26 years on, respectable. If it was mine I probably would have worn the chrome off with polishing 😁
I'm glad you found it interesting. I started off with a short spotlight feature in mind but wandered off here and there. Looking at my old training diaries, I estimate 80,000 miles on the clock, so I'll have to get cracking to hit six figures! A couple of years ago I discovered the entire rear triangle & BB shell are chromed then painted over, which I haven't seen on other steel frames. I might feature the 2007 Cannondale System Six in December - a curious hybrid of carbon and aluminium.
The double-Italian option - a wise move, Mark! When I lived in France I had a bike with 8 speed Mirage (triple-chainset) for the big mountains and I loved the positive clunk of Campag Ergo levers. Those thumb shifters were brilliant! Both gear and brake cables were recessed too - ahead of their time. My dad bought his Gios with Ultegra 9 spd in 97, I think that was just before Chorus went 9 spd, so I followed suit the year after, always with one eye on his Spinergy Rev-X wheels!
Cheers, Matt. It's the elder statesman of the set and I originally bought it in Barnsley. My big-eared co-star insisted on an early appearance to guarantee his cooperation during filming.
Cut off Really Sorry for d People effected by Storm Bert no way as bad here sounds like sesame street. But I wish it was Christmas In Ireland n UK d built-up is too much as Ur mid 60s. !??⛄⛄🎄✔️🌲🍒🎁🛤️❄️🌨️
@@hiworldstephensonultranate290 The commercial acceleration is approaching maximum, Brian. I've been hearing Christmas songs in the supermarket for at least a fortnight!
Couldn't agree more about steel in that the ride quality is sublime. My early 1990s Flying Scot (531/653) is still magical even compared to my modern day Lynskey Titanium. And steel can, with carefully selected components, produce a more than light enough bike..........in 2018 I bought a Condor Acciaio (Dedacciai Zero) and kitted it out with a full Shimano 9100 mechanical groupset together with a Zipp carbon cockpit and Shimano C24 Dura Ace wheels. All in weight 7.4kg and it is just a fabulous machine.
Your Condor sounds like it's a tremendous summer bike, Ian. That's an impressive weight too. Race-worthy in any era. The orange Dolan TT bike in this video was Dedacciai Zero HT with clever tube profiles and approached the Holy Grail state of being stiff yet comfortable - far better than the Alu Cannondale TT frame I replaced it with. I've had a couple of pretty average steel frames too, but the good builders know how to get the best out of the material.
Really interesting chat, Gordon. When you translated your purchase to todays prices I think it hints at getting more for you money back then, or at least like you say really not bad value at all. My 1975 Carlton Criterium also allows for the wheelbase/chainstay to be adjusted a bit and I never had a clue (or investigated) why this was the case, so very interested to hear that comment about more direct power from a 'tighter triangle'. I'd wear that shell suit too, but only on my own in a foreign land with a sparse population! 😉
That's very interesting about your vintage velo, especially being called a 'Criterium'. I'll have a look online for old promotional material to see if there are any further clues. Oh, and Martin, I've put you at the top of the list for the first item of Clipping In Athletic Leisurewear. It has to be ideal for tours of Hollingworth Lake.
@@clippingin1593 haha, look forward to modelling the new Clipping In range! I can see the Hollingworth heads turning already! 🙂I haven't taken the vintage bike out since moving back up to the Pennines but it's a lovely ride with that similar curved steel fork doing its thing!
I'm guilty of overlooking it for a long time, both in my racing days when the lighter, stiffer Cannondales had more allure, and on my return when I've favoured the other bikes. I've already lost count of the admiring comments from cyclists out on the road - even ones who've never heard of Gios are struck by its appearance.
Firstly, you're never pretentious. Great video. I know exactly what you mean re. front hub moving. We're very different riders: I'm 5'4" & 58kg and don't race so the compliance of steel is really important to me. All bikes have carbon forks now but the steel frames definitely track & descend better than stiff aluminum bikes I've owned.
Thanks, Jonathan. I thought I was in danger of sounding like a TV wine-critic .... My dad was around the same build as you and he never warmed to aluminium - even a well-designed Cannondale CAAD4 was harsh with too much 'buzz'. I rebuilt his Gios (52 c-c) a couple of years ago to give me another wet-weather bike option and although it will only take 23mm tyres with full SKS guards, it's surprisingly comfortable, albeit just a little small for me.
Know exactly what you mean Gordon, I’ve got a 1980 Steel, 2006 Aluminium & 2024 Carbon. Only thing I’m starting to struggle with is hood comfort, so contemplating fitting something like Sora to replace the old friction shifters and 105 9 speed.
It's surprising how narrow the old hoods were, Dave. This Gios has '98 Ultegra levers and they're so much smaller than the hydraulic units on the SuperSix or even the mechanical ones on the Ti Dolan. I'm guessing it carried across from the downtube shifter days when they'd spend longer on the drops.
i had a Gitane steel frame bike in 1984 with a beutiful aftermarket chrome fork. They were all the rage back then. Watching this has given me the urge to experience steel again (but without downtube shifters!!)
@@StevePrimrose-m3w they were lovely bikes, Steve. One of Hinault's teammates, Hubert Arbes, had a bike shop in Lourdes with a couple of his 80s Gitane on display along with other Renault Elf memorabilia.
Great video. At first blush 1998 seems a while ago but then my first serious road bike was a 1982 Bob Jackson. I did buy over time three Italian frames but I found that they tended to wobble. Also, I find today’s modern endurance bikes (Trek Domane) wonderful to do long rides on. Keep it up.
The passage of time is scary isn't it? I remember in the mid-80s on fell-walks my dad would sometimes talk about his Holdsworth racing frame from the early 50s and it seemed like ancient history to teenage-me, but in a few months this Gios will be 27 years old. Endurance/sportive geometry is a great development, Jim. The Dolan Titanium bike I mentioned has an endurance geometry and is my go-to for longer distances - although in 2004 my longest ride (to date) of 262 miles was done on this Compact Pro.... on 23mm tyres!
Cheers, Peter. I'm sure there are a few of us waiting for the return of 90s leisurewear! All being well I'll get out a couple of times this week and capture some widescreen landscapes for the channel.
Cheers, Kevin. It's ancient tech nowadays, even though it has STi levers and dual pivot brakes, which we thought of as modern back then. Mind you, I've got a 1995 Fender Stratocaster which has gone through the same process, from 'modern' to 'vintage'.
I worked at Paul Miles cycles in the mid to late 90's, and I loved building up custom bikes from the wheels up. Bike shops and bike buying were better then.
I got a Paul Milnes back in 97-98. It was my first expensive purchase bike ever. Move on 27 Years and I bought a secondhand one in September. I’ve got 2 Paul Milnes now and I have to say that the quality still shines through.
So you're *that* Gareth - I wondered when you commented on a Sowerby 'balcony track' ride a few months ago. Now, would you believe that you had a hand in building the tangerine Terry Dolan bike in this video! We got a custom Deda frame through the shop from Dolan with a longer top-tube, ovalised tube shapes etc and fitted some swish ITM winged TT bars with end shifters.
This is awesome Gordon.. love these kind of vids ❤😊 very interesting learning about Gios and your history with the brand 😃 got to admit I still love riding steel bikes my stables a Condor Acciaio Columbus spirit made in Italy, Genesis Volare 931 stainless, Genesis CdF 725 steel fork, 2 supersix evos 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
Thanks, Pete. I couldn't get out on Saturday with all the fresh snow so I had a spin on the turbo and made a start on this video. That 931 stainless sounds very interesting. I've only seen photos of SS frames - how does it ride? My Ti frame is super-smooth and great for soaking road-buzz but it's 'soft' compared to the steel Gios or the Cannondales
@@clippingin1593 Yeah the 931 is a race frame as used by the Maddison Genesis team its from 2017.. rides great stiff but compliant at the same time a very fun bike to ride.. built up with Chorus 11 speed :) I think some of it is down to how its built and tube thicknesses etc.. Pete
@@n22pdf Nice! As you say, there's a lot more to it than just material choice. I knew a lad in the 90s who road-raced on a Litespeed Ti which was v. stiff and punchy, he said at times he wondered if it was really titanium.... I think we've neatly justified having an extensive stable of bikes :))
Good morning Enjoyed the background information on this. After watching I had a quick look around at Gios compact pro bikes Prices ranging from £450 to £900 Think the wife would leave me if I bought another bike 😂 Although the bikes I do have are rather heavy in comparison. My winter road bike on 25mm tyres is a Carrera Zelos and weighs 11.1kg with pedals and bottle cages. It's actually a bit lighter than at new as I swapped the handlebar, stem and saddle to have a closer fit to my Spring summer bike which is a Upgraded Trek Domane at 8.85kg my lightest bike but once I add my cycliq camera/ light to the front and other accessories it's back up over 9kg. It surprises me how light steel can be even compared to aluminium. I then have an Argos all Steel hybrid converted to a gravel style bike at around 15-16kg which I use for shop runs or longer flat canal rides. And finally an electric Decathlon Est100 ..... Presumably around 20+kg Had my eye on the Steel bikes that Temple cycles builds in British racing green. Thinking of having just one bike for all year use trying to combine lightness with comfort. Anyway... Enjoyed part one of this and looking forward to the next one. Ps... My electric socks are surprisingly good!!
Cheers. Jason. You have to be switched on when it comes to quoted weights for bikes - people tend to omit pedals, cages, bar tape, or they quote the smaller frame sizes .... all kinds of things to get the numbers down! Your winter Carrera is not too bad by the old standards - we'd regularly train on 11-12kg winter bikes back then...twin headlamps with lead-acid batteries (!) - but we got the miles in and no-one in the group was skipping around on 8kg racing machines in December. In late 99 I bought a Cannondale CAAD4 (size 58 c-c ) with Ultegra and in racing guise (Mavic Helium, Vittoria tubulars) it was in the low 8kg range. The newly introduced UCI 6.8 kg looked like a long shot for amateurs in those days. I use my 31 lbs Rockhopper in a similar way to your Argos hybrid and last week it was invaluable on the icy roads. I wouldn't have got out on a road bike on those days. I might do the 2007 Cannondale System Six in a week or so - interesting carbon/aluminium hybrid (and still my lightest bike)
just to ket you know i have a specialized allez bike coming wed ,cant wait to see how it compares to my old school ten gear racer ,mine has chrome forks too ,my steel frame bike ,i messaged while back telling you i started cycling this summer ,another great video
Brilliant - New Bike Day - you'll enjoy that, Sean. The weather looks quite decent in the second half of the week so you should have some good setting-up rides.
been looking at a couple of Cycling magazines from 1979t hat a fellow club rider gave me at the weekend and surprised as to how many bike builders were around but also the amount of parts for bikes that were for sale to build your own bike alongside a bike build wouldnt see any of that much now, interesting to hear about the Gios brand and your bike, thnx Gordon
Thanks, Ian. I started out on Saturday afternoon with a shorter 'spotlight' video but thought it might be interesting to stretch out and compare prices as well as the buying process. I came into the sport 96/97 just before the rise of off-the-peg complete racing bikes. Going back to '79 is very interesting, riders were far more likely to buy just a new frame and fork, swapping their components. In the early 50s my dad bought a new Holdsworth F&F, with just a headset fitted, then built it up himself. That was the era of 'ancient saddles' migrating from bike to bike over the decades.
Interesting video as I am a late convert to cycling. I also noticed the keyboard and was wondering if the black tiles lining your wall are an attempt at soundproofing?
Not really soundproofing - you need suspended floors, cavity panels if you want to tackle bass freqs - these are more anti-reflection panels, effective with 400+ Hz. Great for vocals and acoustic guitars, and they work nicely with vlogging too. They're a carry-over from my music recording and mixing activities. It's the best room in the house for acoustics. Compared to the average room there's very little reflection or short-echo on the voiceover which was room-mic'ed using the onboard GoPro mics. If I was doing musical voice-work then I'd swing down the boom on the left and use a proper mic.
My Giant Contend SL1 (Shimano 105) £1250 bought last year feels good value, I try to buy sensible allowing for the wife acceptance factor (WAP) aluminium does the job. From what I see I could spend £3k more and save about 10mins. I have limited time and ability, not speed, what’s the point in spending more.🤷🏼
@@andrew30m exactly, Andrew. In 1997 I bought a Decathlon bike with Campag Mirage for c. £400 and climbed dozens of cols in the Pyrenees, Alps, & Massif Central. I even did a few sportives on it. It didn't turn any heads but it never held me back.
@@clippingin1593 New to the sport, but when i am riding the majority are older than my soon to be 56 years old, don’t look like racers, so are after comfort, comfort, freedom, dream that their beer, wine, whiskey belly will be admired by girls half their age, who wouldn’t know a Carrera from a Cervélo 🤣. Mmmm but carbon wheels …doh!
I remember starting to go out on club rides on my Carlton Corsa sports bike until I bought a Claud Butler Torino frame. I had it re sprayed by a club member called Colin Laing who used to build frames in his garage. The older club members would give me bits and pieces till in the end I had a pretty decent road bike. I always wanted a Gios but never got around to getting one I did have a Gazelle in the same colour though 👍
That's such a familiar progression - my dad started with a 'Raleigh Sports Model', upgraded a few parts, got something a bit better, did some hill-climbs and grass-track racing, then switched to the League & bought a Holdsworth.
Gazelle - what a classic Dutch marque. I remember them with TVM in the 90s when the downtube was 'Gios Blue'
Very interesting Gordon, you’re a proper bike geek (compliment), it’s great that you’ve kept and enjoyed your Gios, a beautiful bike and really good value looking back although quite exclusive in the day. As for weight, I think it’s still good, maybe not an Andrew Feather climber but 26 years on, respectable. If it was mine I probably would have worn the chrome off with polishing 😁
I'm glad you found it interesting. I started off with a short spotlight feature in mind but wandered off here and there. Looking at my old training diaries, I estimate 80,000 miles on the clock, so I'll have to get cracking to hit six figures!
A couple of years ago I discovered the entire rear triangle & BB shell are chromed then painted over, which I haven't seen on other steel frames.
I might feature the 2007 Cannondale System Six in December - a curious hybrid of carbon and aluminium.
Hi Gordon, I really enjoyed your video. We must be about the same age because we have the same experiences. I went with Campy though ; )
The double-Italian option - a wise move, Mark!
When I lived in France I had a bike with 8 speed Mirage (triple-chainset) for the big mountains and I loved the positive clunk of Campag Ergo levers. Those thumb shifters were brilliant! Both gear and brake cables were recessed too - ahead of their time.
My dad bought his Gios with Ultegra 9 spd in 97, I think that was just before Chorus went 9 spd, so I followed suit the year after, always with one eye on his Spinergy Rev-X wheels!
Love that bike.
Cheers, Matt. It's the elder statesman of the set and I originally bought it in Barnsley.
My big-eared co-star insisted on an early appearance to guarantee his cooperation during filming.
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Cut off Really Sorry for d People effected by Storm Bert no way as bad here sounds like sesame street. But I wish it was Christmas In Ireland n UK d built-up is too much as Ur mid 60s. !??⛄⛄🎄✔️🌲🍒🎁🛤️❄️🌨️
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@@hiworldstephensonultranate290 The commercial acceleration is approaching maximum, Brian. I've been hearing Christmas songs in the supermarket for at least a fortnight!
Couldn't agree more about steel in that the ride quality is sublime. My early 1990s Flying Scot (531/653) is still magical even compared to my modern day Lynskey Titanium. And steel can, with carefully selected components, produce a more than light enough bike..........in 2018 I bought a Condor Acciaio (Dedacciai Zero) and kitted it out with a full Shimano 9100 mechanical groupset together with a Zipp carbon cockpit and Shimano C24 Dura Ace wheels. All in weight 7.4kg and it is just a fabulous machine.
Your Condor sounds like it's a tremendous summer bike, Ian. That's an impressive weight too. Race-worthy in any era.
The orange Dolan TT bike in this video was Dedacciai Zero HT with clever tube profiles and approached the Holy Grail state of being stiff yet comfortable - far better than the Alu Cannondale TT frame I replaced it with.
I've had a couple of pretty average steel frames too, but the good builders know how to get the best out of the material.
@@clippingin1593 Strictly used on dry days only ☀
@@ianrobertson8514 Rightly so! Definite best-bike status.
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Really interesting chat, Gordon. When you translated your purchase to todays prices I think it hints at getting more for you money back then, or at least like you say really not bad value at all. My 1975 Carlton Criterium also allows for the wheelbase/chainstay to be adjusted a bit and I never had a clue (or investigated) why this was the case, so very interested to hear that comment about more direct power from a 'tighter triangle'. I'd wear that shell suit too, but only on my own in a foreign land with a sparse population! 😉
That's very interesting about your vintage velo, especially being called a 'Criterium'. I'll have a look online for old promotional material to see if there are any further clues. Oh, and Martin, I've put you at the top of the list for the first item of Clipping In Athletic Leisurewear. It has to be ideal for tours of Hollingworth Lake.
@@clippingin1593 haha, look forward to modelling the new Clipping In range! I can see the Hollingworth heads turning already! 🙂I haven't taken the vintage bike out since moving back up to the Pennines but it's a lovely ride with that similar curved steel fork doing its thing!
Beautiful bike, always look classy with the blue and the chrome.
I'm guilty of overlooking it for a long time, both in my racing days when the lighter, stiffer Cannondales had more allure, and on my return when I've favoured the other bikes.
I've already lost count of the admiring comments from cyclists out on the road - even ones who've never heard of Gios are struck by its appearance.
Firstly, you're never pretentious.
Great video. I know exactly what you mean re. front hub moving. We're very different riders: I'm 5'4" & 58kg and don't race so the compliance of steel is really important to me. All bikes have carbon forks now but the steel frames definitely track & descend better than stiff aluminum bikes I've owned.
Thanks, Jonathan. I thought I was in danger of sounding like a TV wine-critic ....
My dad was around the same build as you and he never warmed to aluminium - even a well-designed Cannondale CAAD4 was harsh with too much 'buzz'.
I rebuilt his Gios (52 c-c) a couple of years ago to give me another wet-weather bike option and although it will only take 23mm tyres with full SKS guards, it's surprisingly comfortable, albeit just a little small for me.
Know exactly what you mean Gordon, I’ve got a 1980 Steel, 2006 Aluminium & 2024 Carbon. Only thing I’m starting to struggle with is hood comfort, so contemplating fitting something like Sora to replace the old friction shifters and 105 9 speed.
It's surprising how narrow the old hoods were, Dave. This Gios has '98 Ultegra levers and they're so much smaller than the hydraulic units on the SuperSix or even the mechanical ones on the Ti Dolan. I'm guessing it carried across from the downtube shifter days when they'd spend longer on the drops.
i had a Gitane steel frame bike in 1984 with a beutiful aftermarket chrome fork. They were all the rage back then.
Watching this has given me the urge to experience steel again (but without downtube shifters!!)
@@StevePrimrose-m3w they were lovely bikes, Steve. One of Hinault's teammates, Hubert Arbes, had a bike shop in Lourdes with a couple of his 80s Gitane on display along with other Renault Elf memorabilia.
Great video. At first blush 1998 seems a while ago but then my first serious road bike was a 1982 Bob Jackson. I did buy over time three Italian frames but I found that they tended to wobble. Also, I find today’s modern endurance bikes (Trek Domane) wonderful to do long rides on. Keep it up.
The passage of time is scary isn't it? I remember in the mid-80s on fell-walks my dad would sometimes talk about his Holdsworth racing frame from the early 50s and it seemed like ancient history to teenage-me, but in a few months this Gios will be 27 years old.
Endurance/sportive geometry is a great development, Jim. The Dolan Titanium bike I mentioned has an endurance geometry and is my go-to for longer distances - although in 2004 my longest ride (to date) of 262 miles was done on this Compact Pro.... on 23mm tyres!
I would wear a GIOS shell suit... No surprise there then! Great videos keep them coming, you make those hills look so easy!
Cheers, Peter. I'm sure there are a few of us waiting for the return of 90s leisurewear!
All being well I'll get out a couple of times this week and capture some widescreen landscapes for the channel.
Interesting review of a now classic bike.
Thanks for posting
Cheers, Kevin. It's ancient tech nowadays, even though it has STi levers and dual pivot brakes, which we thought of as modern back then. Mind you, I've got a 1995 Fender Stratocaster which has gone through the same process, from 'modern' to 'vintage'.
I worked at Paul Miles cycles in the mid to late 90's, and I loved building up custom bikes from the wheels up. Bike shops and bike buying were better then.
I got a Paul Milnes back in 97-98. It was my first expensive purchase bike ever. Move on 27
Years and I bought a secondhand one in September. I’ve got 2 Paul Milnes now and I have to say that the quality still shines through.
So you're *that* Gareth - I wondered when you commented on a Sowerby 'balcony track' ride a few months ago.
Now, would you believe that you had a hand in building the tangerine Terry Dolan bike in this video!
We got a custom Deda frame through the shop from Dolan with a longer top-tube, ovalised tube shapes etc and fitted some swish ITM winged TT bars with end shifters.
This is awesome Gordon.. love these kind of vids ❤😊 very interesting learning about Gios and your history with the brand 😃 got to admit I still love riding steel bikes my stables a Condor Acciaio Columbus spirit made in Italy, Genesis Volare 931 stainless, Genesis CdF 725 steel fork, 2 supersix evos 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
Thanks, Pete. I couldn't get out on Saturday with all the fresh snow so I had a spin on the turbo and made a start on this video.
That 931 stainless sounds very interesting. I've only seen photos of SS frames - how does it ride?
My Ti frame is super-smooth and great for soaking road-buzz but it's 'soft' compared to the steel Gios or the Cannondales
@@clippingin1593 Yeah the 931 is a race frame as used by the Maddison Genesis team its from 2017.. rides great stiff but compliant at the same time a very fun bike to ride.. built up with Chorus 11 speed :) I think some of it is down to how its built and tube thicknesses etc.. Pete
@@n22pdf Nice! As you say, there's a lot more to it than just material choice. I knew a lad in the 90s who road-raced on a Litespeed Ti which was v. stiff and punchy, he said at times he wondered if it was really titanium....
I think we've neatly justified having an extensive stable of bikes :))
@@clippingin1593 Yes I agree Gordon.. although convincing my wife sometimes if tricky lol Pete
Good morning
Enjoyed the background information on this.
After watching I had a quick look around at Gios compact pro bikes
Prices ranging from £450 to £900
Think the wife would leave me if I bought another bike 😂
Although the bikes I do have are rather heavy in comparison.
My winter road bike on 25mm tyres is a Carrera Zelos and weighs 11.1kg with pedals and bottle cages.
It's actually a bit lighter than at new as I swapped the handlebar, stem and saddle to have a closer fit to my Spring summer bike which is a Upgraded Trek Domane at 8.85kg my lightest bike but once I add my cycliq camera/ light to the front and other accessories it's back up over 9kg.
It surprises me how light steel can be even compared to aluminium.
I then have an Argos all Steel hybrid converted to a gravel style bike at around 15-16kg which I use for shop runs or longer flat canal rides.
And finally an electric Decathlon Est100 ..... Presumably around 20+kg
Had my eye on the Steel bikes that Temple cycles builds in British racing green. Thinking of having just one bike for all year use trying to combine lightness with comfort.
Anyway... Enjoyed part one of this and looking forward to the next one.
Ps... My electric socks are surprisingly good!!
Cheers. Jason. You have to be switched on when it comes to quoted weights for bikes - people tend to omit pedals, cages, bar tape, or they quote the smaller frame sizes .... all kinds of things to get the numbers down!
Your winter Carrera is not too bad by the old standards - we'd regularly train on 11-12kg winter bikes back then...twin headlamps with lead-acid batteries (!) - but we got the miles in and no-one in the group was skipping around on 8kg racing machines in December.
In late 99 I bought a Cannondale CAAD4 (size 58 c-c ) with Ultegra and in racing guise (Mavic Helium, Vittoria tubulars) it was in the low 8kg range. The newly introduced UCI 6.8 kg looked like a long shot for amateurs in those days.
I use my 31 lbs Rockhopper in a similar way to your Argos hybrid and last week it was invaluable on the icy roads. I wouldn't have got out on a road bike on those days.
I might do the 2007 Cannondale System Six in a week or so - interesting carbon/aluminium hybrid (and still my lightest bike)
just to ket you know i have a specialized allez bike coming wed ,cant wait to see how it compares to my old school ten gear racer ,mine has chrome forks too ,my steel frame bike ,i messaged while back telling you i started cycling this summer ,another great video
Brilliant - New Bike Day - you'll enjoy that, Sean. The weather looks quite decent in the second half of the week so you should have some good setting-up rides.
@@clippingin1593 yes be intresting uses the modern gear shift , bought new chain and pedals so fit them wed and get out
been looking at a couple of Cycling magazines from 1979t hat a fellow club rider gave me at the weekend and surprised as to how many bike builders were around but also the amount of parts for bikes that were for sale to build your own bike alongside a bike build wouldnt see any of that much now, interesting to hear about the Gios brand and your bike, thnx Gordon
Thanks, Ian. I started out on Saturday afternoon with a shorter 'spotlight' video but thought it might be interesting to stretch out and compare prices as well as the buying process. I came into the sport 96/97 just before the rise of off-the-peg complete racing bikes.
Going back to '79 is very interesting, riders were far more likely to buy just a new frame and fork, swapping their components.
In the early 50s my dad bought a new Holdsworth F&F, with just a headset fitted, then built it up himself.
That was the era of 'ancient saddles' migrating from bike to bike over the decades.
Interesting video as I am a late convert to cycling. I also noticed the keyboard and was wondering if the black tiles lining your wall are an attempt at soundproofing?
Not really soundproofing - you need suspended floors, cavity panels if you want to tackle bass freqs - these are more anti-reflection panels, effective with 400+ Hz. Great for vocals and acoustic guitars, and they work nicely with vlogging too.
They're a carry-over from my music recording and mixing activities. It's the best room in the house for acoustics.
Compared to the average room there's very little reflection or short-echo on the voiceover which was room-mic'ed using the onboard GoPro mics. If I was doing musical voice-work then I'd swing down the boom on the left and use a proper mic.
My Giant Contend SL1 (Shimano 105) £1250 bought last year feels good value, I try to buy sensible allowing for the wife acceptance factor (WAP) aluminium does the job. From what I see I could spend £3k more and save about 10mins. I have limited time and ability, not speed, what’s the point in spending more.🤷🏼
@@andrew30m exactly, Andrew. In 1997 I bought a Decathlon bike with Campag Mirage for c. £400 and climbed dozens of cols in the Pyrenees, Alps, & Massif Central. I even did a few sportives on it. It didn't turn any heads but it never held me back.
@@clippingin1593 New to the sport, but when i am riding the majority are older than my soon to be 56 years old, don’t look like racers, so are after comfort, comfort, freedom, dream that their beer, wine, whiskey belly will be admired by girls half their age, who wouldn’t know a Carrera from a Cervélo 🤣. Mmmm but carbon wheels …doh!