Rick And Morty - The Hole Wont Let You Go
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Ive been climbing through holes since silent hill 4 bro. Im not afraid of some Hole.
Fav silent hill!
i seen the movie 1408 you dont just escape you either die ore always wonder did i escape ore is this just the next level
Some people didn't like #4 being a reskin of another failed game with silent hill flavoring on it.
I think it was incredible for what it was.
Hole named Nutty Putty Cave:
BWAAAAAAARRRRHHH.
Dude is going on about how Rick is scared of happiness, then Rick jumps into the hole and it's just a dude in a crappy pirate costume.
Damn! They should have done that in the episode! Email that idea to the Rick and Morty writers immediately!
Nah, Rick loves pirates. Remember his pirate ride in the micro theme park?
@@savantslacker9117 Isn't it because Rick thought pirates are the scariest thing? So he made a pirates theme ride because he want to made a scary ride.
Facts.@@DJL396
I feel as if, bein' tha smartest man, Rick knew he couldn't overcome fear, so he forced his fear to be non-sensical in order to properly operate an' never be deceiv'd.
Haven't seen tha ep yet, jus' guessin.
Not just some dude, it's straight up Patchy the Pirate from Spongebob
That line "You are hard to scare" makes the ending make so much more sense.
I dont understand
Watch the episode
@@aloysiusvo318morty's fear is internal, it's not something anyone can just replicate.
@@ApexGale And the moment the hole does achieve that greatest fear, Morty screams to high heaven, and only THEN wakes up.
The moment the Hole got his greatest fear, it was done.
Best episode in 2 seasons
"Everyone is scared of love, dipshit. You'll learn that in your 20s." Touché
A very real line, hahaha.
Some learn it in their 40s..
lol
Late 20s for me
Why would anyone be scared of love? I'm 30 and I want love more than anything.
I like the implication that The Fear Hole never killed anybody, it really just devoured people's greatest fears and the reason why there are so few pictures on the wall is simply 99,9999% of people walking out of the hole just didn't fucking bother to take the picture, shellshocked from the experience.
Or has a friend to take a picture. You can see all the people in the pictures are mentally scared...
i thought the implication was that they went in but never came out
They died. That's the point. The hole drained them till they were a skeleton. Only two other people survived the hole other then Morty.
I thought it was because it was not very popular. i mean its literally a hole in a public bathroom, not the most attractive place.
@wrangchops the whole thing about "draining" seems to have been just an illusion for the first half of the episode just to mess up with Morty's mind.. The hole keeps scaring Morty for the rest of the episode and there is no evidence of Morty's life force being drained in any way. There really is no conclusive evidence that the hole has killed anyone.
Can we not ignore the fact that in this hole which presents you with your absolutely worst fear, Morty OWNED it! Every single thing, Morty overcame it. When it wasnt scaring him enough to escape he pursued it. He actually allowed a huge spider to crawl down his throat to escape the hole. He went up to a being with Lovecraftian power levels and the creature said "you are hard to scare". And he told not Rick not to jump in and Rick didn't! Rick didn't listen to Morty, he never listens, Morty just owned an adventure that Rick was to scared to jump into. I think THAT was why he put the photo of Morty on the wall. He fucking EARNED it and Rick knew it!
I don't think Rick was neccessarly scared to jump in, like, he said it is a one person thing and wanted to jump in, but did not since morty told him not to. And i think it Shows how much respect he has for morty, and how big of a soft Spot, that even with the temptation of seeing Diane, he Held back and did not go in the hole. It was Kinda a really Nice way to Show that while mortys biggest fear was true in some ways, since Rick left him to jump in alone, it was proven wrong right after, when he listened to morty tell him not to do smth, trusting on his Word, the Rick who apparently does not care about anyone and anything. Besides, the fear of beeing easly replaced and nothing important to him had to be seeded at the citadel when morty learned about how often and easy ricks replaced mortys and that they do not matter to ricks beyond camouflage, Just some great continuity imo.
Oh, and the fears the guy named that Rick has, is what morty is sure his fears are, and that would also check out, cause it would not know ricks fears when he did not jump inside the hole
@@user-jt2fw5wk7zno he just wanted to make sure he was out of the hole
@@user-jt2fw5wk7z The only way he could know he was out of the Hole is if Rick acted the way he always does toward Morty, which was a massive fear of his, but it's also confirmation he no longer has that baggage. If Rick outwardly shows his affection for what he did... we know he's still in the Hole. But Rick pulled a typical Rick, dodged the question all together, confirming Morty is back, but we get the added bonus of knowing that Rick was in fact proud of Morty, even if he won't show Morty that. Morty leaves the Hole being 100% ok with that.
Rick wasn't too scared to jump in, he said it is a one person at a time thing so he watched Morty, believing the concept to be stupid. He was only going to do it knowing he could see Diane, but decided against it, not being he was scared but because he needs to move on and that wouldn't help him. Also respecting Morty's assessment of the hole.
It chooses one fear the rest is just discomforting window dressing.
I think the fact that he was talking about Morty this entire time he was talking about Rick and the episode never calls attention to it with a gag or commentary is very underrated.
It feels like it's been a while since this show wasn't afraid of being earnest in messing with audience's expectations.
I thought it was obvious that Rick never went inside... we literally only saw Morty go in...
I think that perfectly shows just how threatening a force the Fear Hole Man is. He doesn’t talk the same way as other R&M characters, he responds to Morty’s attempts to kickback and make jokes in a way that shows he’s the one in control and Rick & Morty never end up killing or “defeating” the Hole because the hole is a force of nature that Rick can’t defeat and the Hole KNOWS that, it doesn’t narcissistically “think” that it’s unkillable like other villains Rick and Morty has faced, it knows it can’t be defeated through brute force because it’s literally fear itself, a concept, and concepts can’t be killed. The only way to actually “beat” the hole is to play by it’s rules, something that Rick is incapable of doing because he’s very much a “it’s my way or the highway” kind of guy.
@@susanaalmeida593to paraphrase from an old 40k Web Series: The Hole does not judge. *It just Hates.*
The only 2 episodes that did that were, ep 2, M Night Shamaliens, and maybe the ending of Mortys Night Run with the whole wrong Jerry thing
In short, almost 8 years ago
Tbh I think this was the benefit of losing Roiland. He was *so* cynical to such an extreme, that he never wanted the show to have any bite, because then it would feel too quaint for him. Harmon alone is still capable of delivering the show's signature jaded edge, but in a way that's balanced better. Harmon still wants to tell stories.
This man is the equivalent of the wolf on the puss in boots. Just a force of nature, a primal instinct, it's "fear". He's just there to fed on that feeling and it makes whatever enter the hole overcome it or be consumed by it. He doesn't care who is it or why it's there, he's just there to be fed and knows how to obtain what it wants.
reminds me of the wolf from puss and boots and rod sterling from "the twighlight zone"
kind of but considering *spoilers* Morty is the only one in the hole and Rick isnt, its... interesting.
The hole doesnt even seem to actually kill, far as we know.
The hole have been ther for decades in the Deeny's bathroom and there are just 3 pictures of actual suvivors on the wall, quite and explicit evidence that people die and are consume by the hole@@Yipper64
Like the lich from adventure time. He may seem like he enjoys it but this is his entire purpose for being. To destroy all life.
@@Yipper64
Right? The speech was part of the show.
“The corrosion of two personalities that reshape each other until they’re incompatible.”
Damn that was good, it’s like the inverse of that quote..
“The meeting of two personalities is like the contact between two chemical substances, if there is any reaction, both are transformed.”
That just sounds like Harmon blaming others for his own corrosiveness.
:v
If we're being meta. -_-
Tool made a music about it way back then. It's called Schism.
Not an inverse. What he’s describing is still a transformation.
This scene was amazing, the hole guy's rant was so real and chilling
Definitely. Especially as when he is ranting about love and the end of things, he is talking about Morty’s love for his grandpa (and I think it’s meant to be weird). And the hole promoter drives it home with the feeling that animates this fear: the idea that Morty doesn’t matter. He is afraid he is nothing without Rick and fears the certainty that all things must end and also the uncertainty of how it will end.
Agreed. The tone of both the scene and his voice especially
It’s chilling because it’s true. The happiest day in your life is just that, 1 day… after that is the rest of your existence
@@tattltalthat happiness rant was more the hole being real with morty, because the cold hard emotionless truth is the scariest thing of all
Not really
I love the implication that all the people in pictures had someone with them to take the photo, once they overcome their fears they just simply don't care about the wall with photos, but their friends do, like Rick.
Whoever that VA is and whoever wrote his lines need raises and new work for the next big villain of the blockbuster of the year.
Sabertooth from that god awful wolverine movie
@@donniebell7887 Liev Schreiber is in too much stuff to just be known for that crap
@@JoshMarshain To be fair, like Ryan Reynolds and Deadpool. Liev Schreiber was awesome as Sabertooth.
@@JoshMarshain true. But he was also by far the best part of that Wolverine movie. He owned that role unapologetically.
He was Kingpin in into the Spiderverse.
Once you realize this was all part of being in "The Hole," you realize that this scene was "The Hole" playing on Morty's fear of becoming too reliant on Rick
“Everyone’s afraid of love, you learn that when you’re in your twenties”. What a great delivery of a great line!
You need to add the "dip shit" to it. It gives line the extra poignant and patronizing vibe.
@@andreasfinn1476 yeah, but I don’t want people jumping all over me for the language (ironically, it apparently is still happening now, but for different reasons)
@@gamerrich gotcha
I just like that Rick had Morty’s picture in his wallet
it was folded so a little less special
It's folded to fit in the wallet. @@onetwo4228
@@onetwo4228so a folded $20 bill is worth less than $20?
@@markusbond7262people just hate it when someone points something out
@@markusbond7262 if you really loved that 20 and it had sentimental value you would probably give it space in the Id window or bill section. but that really doesnt matter its a show and I was really just talking out my ass. your reply was one of those weird ones that make me wonder if I'm stupid or if you dont recognize how profoundly dumb what you said is. the value of a $20 is based entirely on the us treasury and some other stuff.
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This is what brings the "charming salesperson" facade home for me...the subtle "think about this" line is delivered so naturally; you could actually BELIEVE this guy is "The Hole's" agent; and not the eldritch manifestation of a fear parasite.
I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out…but the courage to jump in and face your worst fear is immense. And Morty just jumps right in.
Season 1 Morty wouldn’t even dream of it.
He went where Rick dared not go. Beth would never have tried it either. Jerry ironically would have jumped right in if something important for him was on the line.
Morty always makes bad decisions, that his MO
@@godking Agreed on Jerry. Morty takes after him and both have a weird kind of emotional strength. Honestly, the whole series was kind of Jerry's "hole" until this season when he kind of became a chad who's in a threesome.
@@pax6833Jerry 5126 will never be *Jerry Prime,* though. Hell, he’ll never even be Doofus Jerry.
Rick Sanchez can be perfectly summed up in an Ernest Hemmingway quote that went to the tune of, "Happiness in an intelligent person is the rarest thing I know". Even though Morty was the exact (and only) target here, Mr. Hole managed to sum up Rick's character and pretty much what this entire season ended up being about.
Just get a hobby.
Life is pointless. So stop trying to look for the period at the end of the sentence and live life instead.
Most intelligent people can identify problems. That causes unhappiness. However, only rare intelligent people can identify the trend that leads to things that are okay. We see the bad, but not the successes of humanity. They see a goal without seeing the path.
Two personalities that reshape each other into incompatibility.
Jesus. The writers have hurt.
That line is so real though, it hits different when you've actually gone through it and it's strange and sort of cathartic to hear such a concept be put into words
@@ilikespaghetti4458 Literally.....am right this moment.
Believe. I get it.
Nah. That's not hurt. That's avoiding.
@@JoshSweetvale Oh?
@@JoshSweetvale Harmon is not the only one writing for the show, kid
Liev Schrieber is amazing in his role as the Fear Host sounding like William Shatner while looking like Rod Serling telling a scary truth as a prior performer as Sabretooth in Wolverine Origins.
No way that's Sabretooth?
Cotton Weary himself
This guy in the suit is excellently written and voiced
I fully believe that the Hole Guy isn't malicious. His speech to Morty isn't something he genuinely believes, he's just saying it to scare Morty. Considering how Morty was (physically) okay once the hole released him, it seems like no one was in any real danger.
The issue is that Morty got easily stuck in a feedback loop, despite the answer being in front of him. It'll be worse for Rick
He is running an attraction where people can "conquer" their fear for free
nothing to suggest this is the real Hole Guy though, it could just be a hole Hole Guy, an illusion just like hole Rick.
@@GreatAdos that's fine and all, but what's the point? Hole Guy isn't an established character where him being an illusion has any weight
The Hole Guy was playing a role here. We know at the end of the episode that the initial explanation of the Hole being harmless was true but here we had no idea and we were honestly expecting some HP Lovecraft horror twist shit so it was still an effective play.
With the twist being that Morty was alone inside the hole the entire time, I really like that the Hole was actually just creating more fear and uncertainty in Morty with the lines about true love. He's been trying to create something special with Jessica for as long as the show's been going, So what does he do? Tells him that you need to be dumb to be happy and that the smarter you are, the more you know. Then he lets Morty know the bleak reality of love that some people never learn, and as he explains it, the camera slowly zooms in on Morty's face as he's slowly developing a new fear and anxiety regarding the love he's been trying to gain from Jessica for like seven seasons. Morty doesn't even have a clever quip like he's had up to that point, he just accepts it and asks if he could just be let go.
I think the Hole does feed on your fear, but it also plants the seeds of new ones in you. It's probably why the Hole isn't actually famous, you just go through a traumatic experience and lose one fear while a new one slowly replaces it as the daily course of life feeds it.
It eats your fear and gives you a new one to repeat the cycle and get more "food"
Cant wait for all the "smort" Rick and Morty fans to completely miss the fucking point and just scream at everyone that you are dumb if you're happy.
@@EpicGamer-fl7fn Oh they definitely will and completely miss the point that fear is something you have to overcome. They'll also miss the point that until now Rick's just been a coward and not someone they should emulate.
It said that you would come out if the hole fearless. Of course it’s going to put new fears in you. Once you’ve overcome the known fears, you still have the unknown fears. The ones that you didn’t even know scared you. If it just showed you what you were afraid of at the moment then the being without fear aspect of competing the task would be temporary. The hole is looking to make it permanent.
“The corrosion of two personalities that shape each other” - that’s a very real fear, and a something to be afraid of.
You can pick the best partner possible with completely valid and well thought out criteria. You can find the perfect someone for you.
They may not stay that way. YOU may not stay that way.
Think about it. Are you the same person you were 10 years ago? How about 15? I know I’m not. I’ve changed. I’ve changed in ways that surprised me. I’ve seen my friends and my family change - it some ways for the better, in some ways for the worse.
There is no guarantee, no guarantee at all, that you perfect partner will stay perfect, or that you will still feel the same way about them in the future. No matter how carefully you vet them, no matter how certain you are about your feelings today, it could all change in a few years time. And if it does, there may have been NOTHING YOU COULD HAVE DONE TO PREVENT IT.
This sort of just...isn't true? I took a few sociology courses on intimiate relationships in college, and the fact is that it's a very tight balancing act. Healthy relationships require some push and pull from both sides, the willingness to give up some of your own personal tastes and restructuring of boundaries. And most importantly, it needs to be equal. People who don't want to compromise on who they currently are may avoid feeling heartbreak, but they also avoid the joys of loving. This is the reason couples' therapy exists. Ultimately, the best advice you can give to someone who is afraid of "being changed" by someone is to simply never be committed to a partner. Which is lonely in and of itself. Sure, you won't need to feel like you changed for nothing. But if you avoid it, you stagnate as a person - arguably worse than if you had changed.
The prevention comes from reaffirmation of your feelings for one another. If you change, you change together. If something bothers you or them, you work together to correct it. It's all one delicate balancing act.
Im also terrfied of the "Some stranger said the right thing at the right time on the right person" like if everyday you are rolling the dice betting on that not happening
@@ApexGale Your counterpoint proved nothing. If anything, everything you just said showed how fickle and unstable many relationships are as a tight balancing act that can be easily lost without constant equal effort and understanding. You should have taken more sociology classes.
@@EmptyMan000 If you and your partner aren't willing to make that effort, then it was an unhealthy relationship from the get go. the hole's avatar is attempting to play to morty's fear. but using OP's terms - if you "pick the best partner possible with completely valid and well thought out criteria," and you remain "careful," you can have a long and fruitful relationship together. The reason relationships fall apart isn't because people "change until they're incompatible," they fall apart because they simply stop putting in the effort to change alongside each other. There are many happy relationships where they really do remain together "till death does them apart." There are also relationships where people give up at the first sign of trouble because they don't want to try.
But in instances of when partners "stop being compatible," that will virtually never happen as long as they continue to effectively communicate their feelings with one another. The idea that there is "nothing you could have done to prevent it" is quite frankly ridiculous.
@@ApexGalethat assumes that someone's desire to "put in the effort" never changes. If someone changes over time to no longer want to put in the same amount of effort as before and the relationship ends, that's still the same result. All you're doing is describing what needs to shift to cause the relationship to fall of balance.
Rod Serling from Twilight Zone has hundreds of monologues just as compelling as this one. And this guy resembles him flawlessly.
I'm sure a lot of people will comment on how the Hole Guy is just spouting a combination of pessimism and nihilism but the truth people keep saying is that how happiness is fleeting makes it meaningful, but I think they're missing the point.
He states that it takes a 'very RARE, very POWERFUL being to be terrified of happiness'.
I think that's kind of the point here. Rick is so incredibly smart that he can do functionally anything he wants by making the right device..... EXCEPT make happiness eternal. He can't really accept that happiness, the one thing he probably most desperately wants, is something truly outside of his ability to make happen and keep. So he believes that if he can't make it last forever, why bother to really connect with people? Why bother improving himself? Why ditch his bad habits? Why bother TELLING other people he gives a shit about them? Because any fleeting happiness from those moments is finite and, thus, meaningless in his eyes.
And yes, I know the twist at the end of the episode, but I can't help but think the Hole Guy was actually RIGHT about him.
No this is incredibly stupid. Yes happiness is fleeting but inner peace isn’t. Being smart doesn’t make you wise but very foolish. Don’t believe me, look at half our academics, I heard some of the dumbest and most idiotic things come out of their mouths. This clip would be extremely cringe if I didn’t know that this was fear talking. Fear like any emotion can lie to us.
@@MrSophire "being smart makes you very foolish" generalizing such a statement is the stupidity itself. suit yourself though, you don't seem like you can rationally converse with others.
Maybe he's equivalenting smarts to arrogance. @@aybarsp.5822
This makes sense given that Rick created Globafin and even referred to it as "his craft." He has a dozen people floating in his basement in eternal happiness, at least until it ends.
I would agree with your analysis.
Except Rick has proven he doesnt care that much, and has been happy without Diane. He has a group of close friends but doesnt bother with them alot cause he was busy with finding Rick Prime.
Rick could have created a new Diane. He could have moved to a Universe with a dead hin but alive Diane. Yeah, Rick Prime supposedly erased her from existance but then how would the entire family and the hole know about her when innthe establishing scenes from that episode, the person erased from existance is immediatly forgotten except by the person closest to them.
The hole was doing everything to get Morty to realise his fear and blew Ricks personality outta proportion.
liev schreiber voice acting is on point. He comes across a sinister and sincere expertly. He flows from jovial to menacing so smoothly, A+ work.
This guys delivery was amazing
I so badly want to see this guy in another episode some point in the future, he’s definitely one of the most interesting side characters the show has ever had
I can't stress how amazing the dialogue in Rick and Morty is, and the delivery, it makes it so memorable. I can't think of any show with better dialogue than this.
I love how this character is obviously a twilight zone parody but he rules so much he’s hole guy
"Can't the hole just let me go then? Sounds like I don't matter."
"You don't."
Hearing that after the ending gives a whole new tone to it.
Mind explaining that?
@@AnonEcho98 The real focus of the hole was Morty battling with not mattering to Rick.
So the guy saying “you don’t” to mortys “sounds like I don’t matter” is a tongue in cheek hint to that.
I love how he actually hints at Morty’s fear very subtly at the end of their conversation. He hints at his way out.
He says that the hole won’t let him leave because it means “Rick” leaves, so he knows that Morty won’t leave without Rick, not just because he cares for Rick, but because he fears he won’t be much without him. He relies on Rick so much, he couldn’t see that it was about him until the very end. But Morty can leave by overcoming his fear of relying on Rick, or simply by leaving on his own.
This is one of these kind of episodes that after you know the plot twist, it gives a whole another perspective about scenes like this. Really good season finale, I wonder how Morty will be without any fear left.
This guy is actually pretty intimidating for a villain of the week in a show that has an inordinate amount of fart jokes
What I love about this episode is that it lacks the usual weird or funny gag, where usually it would interrupt a seroius moment. This episode feels daker because of that
Actually this moment is definately interrupted just after this clip ends by a waiter.
@@gaskinforeman303It’s not interrupted at all, the whole scene happens and the weight is felt before that last joke.
Wanna split some pancake puppies?
It's funny that the first episode of this season has Hugh Jackman (Wolverine) and the finale has Liev Schrieber (Sabretooth)
Dan Harmon probably planned it that way too, once he secured them as VA's.
And funny thing is, this was all a lie. The hole knows its job
What was?
He told pretty valid points until the "you don't matter, but Rick will Die"
No the total opposite, actually
You get it! You get it!
All things considered, I like Fear Hole Guy. He's a smart individual that I feel you could have a pretty decent conversation with.
He seems to be clever but he also takes a weird pleasure in cynicism.
"The corossion of two personalities that we shape each other in until they're incompatible" hit too hard, thats when the constant arguments start happening and its usually down hill from there; i know this all too well sadly.
This was a great episode. Very twilight Zone like. Those are my favorite Rick and Morty style episodes.
It can’t be a coincidence that the dumbest episode in all Rick and morty (which was ironically about math) came right before easily one of the smartest ones in the whole series like this is down right hitchcockian in terms of writing and scenerio. (Even though he’s a twilight zone reference)
Yeah it’s definitely a stand ability!
Down in a hole
the hole was made for meeeeee
(junji ito reference)
@@hellatze I meant the song by Alice in chains, given how stands have song names
A mix of Under World + Civil War
Hole Guy really is the embodiment of fear. When the instruction video statics up, look at him compared to the others in the video.
Ok but here’s the thing about this monologue; people hear this guy confidently lecture Morty about the impermanence of happiness and the “smartness” of not being happy and take it as fact but…
*Spoilers*
We know this is actually Morty who is trapped in the hole, not Rick, who never went in, everything that happened is a reflection of Morty’s fears and insecurities, one of them is that Rick frequently belittles him about being “dumb” for being happy, which has been shown time and again to be Rick just taking Pride in his misery and rationalizing his shitty choices. Morty, Summer and especially Beth were confronted with the cold indifference and cruelty of the multiverse but still found true happiness, while Rick struggles with his nihilistic mindset. Also, the fact that this episode is about Morty overcoming his fear of Rick achieving happiness and abandoning him plays into this idea that it’s Morty’s insecurity because he’s been conditioned by Rick to view happiness as a negative, furthering his adversity to Rick being happy.
If it were a hole on the side of the wall, Morty would be naively delighted to test it out.
in that finale bro pulled out a joker laugh, god dam 💀
This should've been the Halloween special
I'm sure it was, but they probably realized it was one of their better episodes and used it as a finale.
The problem is the episode needed people to understand that Diane was dead in every reality in order to understand why it was significant that she was in the hole. That's not established until the Rick Prime episode so that episode had to come first. Otherwise that one would probably have been the finale since it sure as hell felt like one.
its ok on christmas. making cold chilling
@@J4hk3 Episode 5 couldnt be the finale, the point ofit being a mid season episode is for the viewers to feel like Rick, dissatisfied and unsure of what comes next.
Episode 6 followed up onthat.
@@the_bigfriv9401 It already seemed pretty clear to me that something was being set up with evil morty. Rick's dissatisfaction feels more personal on his end, that in the end he had to rely on a morty to get what he wanted.
Sure episode 6 played off of what happened the previous episode but it didn't seem massively important, it was a clip show episode after all.
Oh geez.. this episode man, reminded me of "Room 1408" movie where the guy live the worst nightmare fuel hallucinations of what he was convinced didn't exists. Honorable mention to Stephen King "The Mist"
1:08 - 1:55
*This definitely gives off Bojack Horseman vibes and that's saying something*
Can we pause a moment to acknowledge that Rick and Morty is the best science fiction writing ever to appear on TV?
*Spoiler for those that did not watch the full episode don't read*
He said it himself, if you go you will take him away. That was a hint.
Can you please elaborate
I love hidden lore and spoilers
@@m.ybarra3114 It's not hidden. It pertains to the end of the episode.
@@m.ybarra3114Rick never jumped in the hole only Morty so when Morty conquered his fear it naturally Rick (or Morty's perception of Rick) would leave too
Btw Morty's fear was (spoilers)
Morty's fear was that he was replaceable, that Rick wouldn't jump in after him, in the end Rick didn't jump in after him, but because the hole only could fit one person (because if one's fear is water and another's fire it would cancel each other out) though in the last bit Rick runs to the hole and posts a picture of Morty on the wall he had in his wallet, implying he wasn't replaceable
@@jordanrussell1257Interesting. The way I interpreted that last scene was that it was a fake-out to make us think Rick was going to jump in the hole because he just couldn't resist, but instead he just went back to put up Morty's picture. I saw his choice not to go in as a bit of character development, that he's not still chasing closure over the whole Diane thing and has moved on. I didn't really think about where he got the photo, to be honest.
I actually thought kind of the opposite about Morty's resolution. His fear was that he was replaceable, but making it out of the hole meant that it WAS true that Rick thought of him as replaceable, but he had faced that fear and accepted it. That's why he knew he wasn't still in the hole- Rick's hesitation to answer the question showed that he wasn't fully comfortable saying yes, but Morty was finally okay with it.
Call me dim but if the hole projects a reality of your fear wouldn't what Morty should've experienced be an existence where he is truly replaced and disregarded by Rick? The Episode shows the hole projecting the opposite of that within the hole. The revelation that Morty was alone in their was awesome, I'm confused as to how the hole itself is supposed to function.
It gives you the happiest memories or moments and eventually takes it away is what I assume it does.
Come out, Rick reconfirms he is important, then get distracted by newest scenario as morty fades into the background, come out etc as the dread grows as morty realizes he’s missing something which grows the fear. He’s along for the ride for as long as he lets it go, only ending when he figures out what the gimmick is which only happens when he realizes what he’s so terrified of in his deepest depths. Then the hole lets him go because with realization comes fortification. while not immune from the fear, he knows what it truly is and can process it.
I'm guessing its like...
Morty's fear is that as much as he relies on Rick, Rick doesn't need him. Rick won't go in after him if Morty does something stupidly, needlessly reckless. If Morty fucks up another planet, or jumps into a fear hole, Rick doesn't want to help. It reinforces the stupidity that encourages that. While the reality is that Rick wouldn't let Morty die as much as he doesn't want to help when Morty makes a mess of things, Rick has made it abundantly clear before that Morty IS replaceable. Other Morties, crows, Summer, even Beth and Jerry. Easily each of them could replace Morty, is what he's been told. And even though in Rick's eyes Morty ISN'T replaceable, Morty has no reason to believe differently.
That's why the sequences go "Morty is afraid of not being accepted" (Morty doesn't want Rick to reject him and leave him behind), "Morty becomes like his dad" (Rick's least favorite person), and "Morty is afraid of Rick not saying "we'll figure it out."" (Morty is deeply unsettled by Rick being so gung-ho and supportive, and treating Morty like an equal. While its something Morty wants, he knows its nothing he'll ever get from Rick, and that fact terrifies him.)
And then of course all the other fake exits are Rick being unable to help the situatuon.
Basically all of it is "Morty is afraid of relying on Rick because Rick might one day leave him."
The hole eats your fear, it doesn't just expose you to your fear.
The hole is like a house of horrors attraction. It has a bunch of events lined up to scare you. It just had Morty's horrible realization that Rick was never in the hole set up as the finale
What he describes is literally the overthinker's fallacy. If you're too worried about things that may or may not happen you start to forget how to appreciate and live the moment therefore never being able to attain happiness. It's especially true for people that seek knowledge. The more you know about the world, the more you're inclined to worry and give in to scenario-thinking. Rick is a prime example of this because it's his nature to be as many step ahead of things as possible. He's always anticipating, never living. His fear is not happiness but to lose control and be unable to calculate ahead, because that's what took his wife and daughter.
I think whats so special about Mr Fear Hole Man is that he is presented very differently from other rick and morty side-characters. Throughout this whole conversation Morty tries to do the usual, dismiss the situation, display genre saviness, be sarcastic, things hes learned from Rick to deal with weird situations, make them non-threatening by dismantling their seriousness. But it doesnt work. Fear Hole Man just trucks on through, keeps control of the conversation and never falters in his confidence, until Morty cant keep up the facade of derision anymore
…damn, that was actually some really good acting
I love this guys speech, its dark but oddly logical. that's the shit i missed in Rick and Morty
“We can certainly say you’re not afraid to be reductive” 😂😂
This was seriously one of the best episodes of the entire show.
This was a really good episode and I like how Rick respects morty for actually doing it and coming back out, even putting mortys picture on the board for him.
Finnish writer Jari Tervo summarised this with "The price of love is grief".
Love and grief are the same thing.
The fear hole reminds of those seriously creepy dreams where you are stuck in some kind of loop, where you think you wake up but you are still asleep and dreaming, feeling strangely well rested, but confused and unsettled, then when you actually wake up, tired and uncomfortable, but relieved and at some kind of peace.
"There was a HOLE here. It's gone now."
this is honestly of my favorite episodes of this show. i love the hole
This is when it became clear the hole wanted Morty given how hard it was trying to put the spotlight on Rick.
i love that this whole monolog is a big lie
Gotta admit the hole is very accurate with its works i mean he literally has the fake people react and interrupt him like a real person would
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but when the video transitions to static before it becomes a mountain dew commercial the rod sterling entity's eyes turn pitch black like the void while the guy at the urinal remains the same.
I wonder if this being is something Rick has yet to encounter in its true form.
Can we appreciate that he mentions that if Morty leaves than Rick will follow him and the hole has neither of them? Pretty interesting twist given how the episode ends
The best part is that he could have gone even deeper. Our brains are literally wired in such a way that we get diminishing returns on happiness. If we're happy all the time, we basically get more and more depressed as the brain downregulates receptors, happiness isn't just a trap, it's literally governed by the thing that makes addiction so profitable.
What most uppers do is they supply an artificial quantity of chemicals similar enough to neurotransmitters to trigger the same receptors, so some drugs can literally make you more happy than is possible by any other means, and that also makes your brain downregulate those receptors, after your first hit, it will never be that good again.
I love how this episode parallels the simulation episode, in that, where Rick and Morty know they're in a simulation, only for the truth to be that Morty was never real and just part of the simulation. Except, of course, in this, it's turned on it's head, with Morty being the real one and Rick being apart of the dream.
Love how this guy is an overdue homage to Rod Sterling, host of the original twilight zone
nice to know the writing in this show is still on point to make me rethink a few things
A entity that knows you the best and uses your fear to feed on for pure pleasure. It is wicked but at the same time it teaches you about yourself that you don't of. It knows you more than you know yourself. Plus, the funny thing is it will not kill you, only teaches you and feed on you at the same time.
*This was a FANTASTIC episode!!!!* 💯💯💯💯❤
Liev Schreiber is underrated and one of the 🐐. Haven’t seen or heard him since he was Sabertooth
"The corrosion of two personalities that reshape each other until they’re incompatible.”
As someone who is divorced this one was a gut punch, it was far too true. You fall in love, date and get married thinking that your life together will be filled with bliss. Sadly, time moves forward, you find yourselves arguing more and more each day till whatever was holding you togethers erodes leaving nothing but a canyon between you.
Fucked up part is you both have no one to blame but yourselves. It takes two for the erosion to occur, don't blame life, marriage, God or some outside force. The success and eventually failure of the relationship is all you both.
This was a great episode. I swear season 7 is the best R&M we’ve had for ages!
This was like the never Ricking Morty which I liked better.
Rick and Morty facts hit hard on this episode
This episode is definitely one of the best episodes on the series
What he says about Rick is all in Morty’s head. That’s what Morty thinks about Rick. Rick never jumped into the whole. There’s no way the guy knew anything about Rick.
What’s crazy is there’s only three pictures because everyone else is trapped down there to this day… lol
That "yummy yummy" gave me a half chub
In the ep I like how the fear guy leads morty to his fears, using every trick in the book. Throwing morty in the hole, being the lead in the conversation and so on
Maggots, torture, clowns, jump scares, ugly creatures
To the deepest pit of fear that are more on psychological response in certain scenarios
Dying, acceptance, lost, importance, aging like his father, time
Even to the part of scared of love is part of it, it's always been about him
Especially to the viewers who's always doubting due to the lack of information of how it all goes
At least we can be sure that he does keep his promises by technically "curing" or and not killing morty (save by rick, etcetc)
As someone whose father had him watch episodes of Twilight Zone as a teenager, this character seems like a homage to the host Rod Serling
hole guy was chill af
Best scene is after you cut the video when the waiter is like that 1 cup of coffee isn't gonna cut it for the amount of time you been in this booth and the guy is like "yeah that's fair wanna split some hush puppy pancakes" 😂
Happiness always ends
Until you’re constantly submerged in globafin
Mark Hamill peaking out at that ending laugh.
I thought I recognized a familiar joker laugh.
It was hard to get used to Morty’s voice but I loved the whole season and specially the ending was my favourite! Good work
1:18 I love how Morty reacts as if the guy is pitching a plot line instead of describing what the hole is doing lol
First Sabretooth, then Kingpin and now Hole Guy? Liev Schreiber has the voice of villainy.
This dude is most definitely an avatar of The Buried...
A man once said; "There is nothing to fear, but fear itself." On this day Morty Smith learned this lesson is all too real way, even if that happened to be at the bottom of a hole in a Denn'ys adjacent to, The Twilight Zone. -cue music-
hole guy spitting nothing but facts. Rick and morty wants a target audience of adults, and this speaks to real fears.
These are probably all of Morty's thoughts. Remember, this is just a hole. Feed off of fear, feed off of loathing... feed off of love. Whatever it's feeding off of, it doesn't have a brain, because it's a hole. It's like the detoxification machine from season 3: sure, it removes toxic thoughts, traits, and hangups... but how is it supposed to know what each person finds toxic? And how is a hole supposed to know what each person finds terrifying? The answer is that it doesn't, the person involved does.
Love how the Hole Guy is just using coded language to tell Morty he's talking about him, not Rick:
- Hmm... you ARE hard to scare
- It takes a very rare, very powerful being to be terrified of happiness
- You're dumb, that's why you're not afraid of being happy
- Morty: "It sounds like I don't matter." Fear Guy: "You don't"
Such a cool monologue , amazing writing
I feel like this guy will be very relevant in the future. Like some endgame villian or something.
Would it be too far fetched to say that him concluding about Rick's fear with maybe chasing him with "clowns or some shit" afterwards foreshadows the ending of the episode?
You know, considering pirates are what Rick's scared of?