I presoak each panel with ONR solution to get it working on the panel before I ever even touch with a towel. I use wash mitts instead of towels and use 3 - 4 per vehicle.
Quick tip, which works for me. Put ONR in a pump sprayer and use high quality micro fiber towels. Yes, I may go through a few more towels but I've never had an issue with it scratching the surface.
dude the details and information you know is GOLD. I cant say how much i appreciate your videos. I always loved detailing but everyone was so quiet about what they use, and their techniques. Appreciate all the info.
Scott you are SPOT ON! I’ve been noticing the day after my car’s been through rain, I ONR wash with the big red sponge. But the sponge accumulates oily soiling that is only removed with PowerClean. Never thought to paint prep since this critical step is NOT mentioned in professional detailing for a “weekly wash.” You’re the man!
Scott; whenever I use ONR, I'll mix as shown on the directions with distilled water and then in the solution bucket, I'll put in a dozen of clean microfiber towels. Use one per panel then it goes in another dry bucket to wash the towels later. Never dunk the towel back in the solution bucket after washing the panel. So far so good. Yes, a lot of towels to wash but the paint is good. Just my procedure since I've got a lot of towels.
Scott! I don't ever get bored of your videos even though it's very long, it's all worth it because it's full of boss information on auto detailing keep it up boss!!
Hey Scott, I solved my problem. #1 I put a coating on my vehicle and that fixed the washed induced marring. #2 I use a drying aid such as Opti-Seal or C2V3 when drying and that seemed to completely eliminate the buffing that I had to do. It was because the entire truck has been reclear'd and the new clear isn't the hardest stuff in the world. I'll make a video about everything soon enough.
thats cool...and it makes sense because your make typically doesn't have a soft clear...auto body shop clear can drive you nuts sometimes..lol..im happy you found a solution and love talking to you:)
I'm going to listen to you. Your the only guy that tells the truth instead of what I want to hear. I had a problem with water spots and I spent a ton of money on products that don't work even though you said the water spots are etched into the paint and the only resolution is wet sanding. I guess you have earned the right to say "I told you so". Thanks for the honesty. I'm listening to you now.
I foam cannon my truck a few times a year and use ONR every week or so (don't cringe, ha!) and love it. For me it's just so much quicker and convenient. Also, glad to see you give Garry Dean a shout out because I prefer his method over what Optimum actually recommends. Thanks for the video and appreciate the time you put into these.
Sherukka True, but the "Gary Dean" method is you never put a used towel back in the clean solution to re-wet. You pre-soak 5-6 towels and always use a fresh un contaminated towel.
From what I can see, it seems like you don't prespray the car. That's not the best way to do it. Pre-spray with ONR-water at the standard dilution, or for a really dirty car, use your pressure washer and use ONR like a normal wash soap. My Tesla has really soft clear coat and ONR works well for me, I just don't put my mitt on dry paint.
I wash my black truck weekly with onr wash and wax. pre spray, microfiber noodle mit, seperate rinse bucket. dry gently with a platinum pluffle and spray of meguiars spray wax. looking great and swirl free after a year and a half. works for me!
You get those results because you pre rinse your vehicle! A true water less wash you obviously wouldn’t pre rinse your vehicle that’s when the scratching can happen with waterless washes or ONR. If you choose to pre rinse then use ONR you will be fine.
So when using a waterless product should i always pre rinse then while drying use the product? My car is in my pic any tips for keeping it protected and clean? Plz help
I have 2 Japanese cars and never had that problem with the ONR. After a few years of ownership both cars have minimal swirls. The most important thing is being gentle and applying almost no pressure. Also if the car is heavily soiled I pre spray ONR onto the panel.
They say to "appply" the solution, then dry off. When I started doing it that way, it made the process much faster. The only time I had ONR fail on me was on a track car that had racing fuel residue, and tire residue all over it. I had to use glass cleaner on the film, and goof off on the tire rubber.. When I tried the ONR it didn't do anything but make a mess.
Scott, big thanks for all the detail you put into a video's. It's really cool that you choose to share your personal experience maintaining cars paint finish. Really wish the auto makers would work on improving the auto paint process they use. I'm a real fanatic about keeping up my rides paint finish, to me it's so important, I despise a neglected car.
Ive personally had good luck with the wolfgang waterless wash and their waterless wash mitt. Soak it in the 5 gallon bucket for a few minutes and wash a section at a time then rub the mitt on the grit guard and wring it out. Repeat. Use a waffle weave drying towel over a ultra plush since they are notorious for smearing and leaving streaks. I only use an ultra plush towel after the car has been dried to get any streak or smear i may have created. Hope this helps.
Great video Scott! I myself use onr for wash solution, clay lube, and glass cleaner as a maintenance wash only....not intended to wash heavily soiled vehicles...if u do wash your car exclusively with onr go through the touchless wash first...
As everyone else mentioned , quality information and facts that are really known about the product. Thanks for taking the time to inform the UA-cam community!
A 5 yr old video just solved my problem. Who would've thunk it. I love rinseless wash but it does streak. I couldn't figure out how to solve that so I tried the IPA and boom. Whatever allowed you to figure this out I'm glad for it and glad you passed it along. Thank you. I'm still new to the business so any tricks I can learn to be better is worth it!! Thanks again!!
@@schmidtygt some people are just starting out in the biz and don't have resources to buy every product available on the market. Rinseless wash does streak. I found a way to solve it for now.
@@detailgrandma22 my process costs less than buying an ipa…. It takes rinseless wash and more rinseless wash. Additional drying aid is the only additive and that’s solely for slickness since the rinseless is the drying aid. Just re-mist the surface before you dry. I’m a college kid who just does my own detailing so I don’t have access to everything under the sun either
Thanks Scott for all the time you take to make these videos. It’s greatly appreciated, I have a learned a lot from your thorough approach and explanations. Keep up the great work and thanks again for all the education you provide. Best of luck to you and may you have a prosperous 2018.
Hey Scott. Im a big fan of Rinseless wash. Im using ONR and Ech2o and im very happy with this. Love your Videos. Great job. Greetz from Germany - Berlin City. Keep going !
I made the same mistake until I realized that I was missing one important step, you need to first spray rinseless wash on the panel, let it work and soften the dirt, after which you can wipe with a wet sponge or microfiber with minimal pressure
This! Preach. You’re absolutely right, this is why they say apply the solution to the panel, because it’s the chemical doing the work, not you. I’ve seen it in action and it blows my mind every time.
Scott...another great video...there are no holes in your rhetoric...your opinion and analysis is straightforward and sensible...and besides, try to get two doctors to agree on anything!...you keep talking and we realists will keep listening !...love you man !
You make some good points, but I cringe when I see you use a dry microfiber towel to dry with. Getting it wet and ringing it out will provide some lubrication to the drying process.
If the paint has iron contamination, remains of asphalt, grease or the car is too dirty, then it is better to decontaminate before cleaning with that product and that method. Carpro Iron X and Carpro Tar X are good for that. There is another product of this brand called "Carpro Trix" that is like a mixture of the previous products. There are no miracles in detailing. Also, the towels should be as fluffy as possible and be very careful, do not tighten at all. And yes! Japanese and Korean cars have a very delicate paint! Greetings from Spain.
I am great fan of Rinseless Wash. Matter in fact, I have the following: -Wolfgang Uber Rinseless -Optimum No Rinse -Ultima Waterless Wash -McKee's 37 Rinse Free Wash & Wax -Pinnacle Liquid Crystal Waterless Wash However, it is not a subtitute for a two bucket wash. I also wonder why we can't comment on Garry Dean's videos.
I drive a black 2017 Honda Civic, I ONLY use rinseless washes, and aside from the odd hairline micro scratch(talking super light, 30 seconds on the buffer) I almost never get scratches or swirls. It is about technique(there are some tricks that are very important) it is also about using the right towel, and, back to technique, using the towel right. I dont only do my own car, I work in a high volume environment(10+ cars a day) and almost never have problems. I fully wash cars with speed shine. I fully wash cars with random auto soaps in spray form, I fully wash cars with random other quick detailers. I even do our super picky dealership owners car as well as super picky shop managers car using the same material and techniques. Obviously every time you touch paint there is a risk of scratching no matter why you are touching it or what you are touching it with. If you use good best practices you can at the very least make sure any scratching that does happen is minimal and easily fixed. It sounds to me like this guy should not be using rinseless wash on someone elses car until he perfects his technique on his own cars. I NEVER use any technique or gear on anyone elses car until I have had full and ongoing success on my own ultra soft black Honda paint, to do otherwise would be irresponsible
I only use waterless wash to remove minor dust, and I keep up with it between each drive. If it gets too dirty, I won’t use it. The example he used was 2 weeks between washes which I won’t do. Luckily my 370z has hard clear coat.
If I understand this correctly...you're wiping the car with a microfiber towel that is saturated in an ONR solution. You take that towel, wipe your cars panel, and then use a paint prep on the area you previously wiped to remove oil left on the car, and then another towel to dry. That makes perfect sense. The confusion I'm having is when you put the microfiber towel back into the bucket, in order to get ONR on it and clean the rest of the car, you're still putting oil back into the bucket from the initial wipe. Am I wrong?
Apologies if I've got this wrong but the problem can be solved by using multiple microfibre cloths/mitts instead of returning the dirty cloth into the ONR bucket and solution -then there's no oil slick which you would be spreading across your car if you try to rinse one cloth into the ONR bucket.
Amigo saludos desde el salvador quiero decirte que eres el mejor y te lo digo humildemente ...no me pierdo ninguno de tus videos eres real amigo saludos cuidate
Awesome video.... I use ONR exclusively on my tesla model s and I use it on my wife’s Kia Optima. I will use the methods and products you showed here. I think you just solved a few issues I have been having with using the ONR exclusively. Thanks man!
scott how about dunking 3 or 4 nice microfiber towel into a gallon of distilled water and onr solution fold them into four's and use a clean side of it on every different panel and never get that solution dirty oily is that a good idea to use
At least you're honest. Your go to move is to basically strip all protections based on previous applications of protective products. I'd like to think that a half decent quality ceramic coating wouldn't require a weekly stripping and re-application of protection. I'm not sold on Optimum but it seems to be a more efficient way to wash a car. Ultimately, paint protection is our goal.
I do a quick wash with ONR and the car is clean. I do an AvalonKing coating and I am happy. Beyond that, I just want to ensure the car is easy to clean for my daughter. I've already spent 4 hours plus detailing the car using Meguiars Ultimate polish technology and my DA. I'm looking for something that works and I don't have to do another 4 hour marathon. I'm an old man, that damn near killed me...........LOL
The car was prepped and clayed (Griot's Garage Clay) followed by the Ultimate Meguiars product. I'm out of gas. Also, I did a GEYOUN (sp?) IPA wipe down after the Ulimate polish before the AvalonKing coating.
i agree with him but as a youtube creator myself, he also knows the amount of haters on youtube and he would rather not deal with it and i don't blame him...those who hate on youtube would never pick up the phone just to tell him what they really think but its far easier for them do it behind the safety of their PC and spread their hate...he limits that negative energy by turning off the comments and making people call him for advice or direction.....Garry understands how youtube works and he is very smart to ask people to call him personally:)
yeah, I think you're supposed to spray it with the mixture as well as having the towel soaked in it. But what you said about certain brands having a "soft" clear coat, I'm sure plays a factor. Thanks for the info
I wonder if running a durable sealant cured underneath would address the issue with using a waterless wash on soft clearcoat. It also occurs to me that there are warnings about certain waxes known to degrade clearcoat when applied directly.
Weekley or EOW Why not just foam purple power as pre wash. Rinse Contact wash with foam from a good wash rinse Then apply a good spray wax or the poly gloss foam..
This seems like a lot of work, I'd rather just wash my car every week at a coin wash then do this. Great video as always, I was considering using rinseless wash every other week to save time on washing weekly, but this helped me rethink that.
What is the difference between running a wash mitt (or whatever you use) over the car the traditional soap/ water way that is different from using onr that would cause less scratches? I've used onr for years, and although you remove the dirt differently, initially you are still "rubbing" dirt off your car. Your thoughts? Thank you very much love the channel.
My opinion on the difference is that with a "normal" way with soap and water, is that you are going to PRE spray the vehicle BEFORE you actually begin to wash it. All that MAJOR dirt is taken off with your high pressure pre rinse. Then of coarse you will PROBABLY pre-soak the car and rinse again, Then you get into the actual washing of the car with your sponge or mitt, of course using the proper equipment to be sure all the dirt runs to the bottom of the bucket UNDER your bucket grid protector. With a water-less wash (if done INCORRECTLY) you are basically just diving in with a sponge which is akin to using sand paper.
i believe that no matter what method is being used, rinseless or traditional the use of a TFR and a pressure wash to remove as much road grime as possible is a must.
Just did a very dirty vehicle with a rinsless wash. Pre soaked the vehicle with 256:1 then went with the rag company sponge and then dried it afterwards
Scott, would you mind to list the products that you are using below you videos? Sometimes it is difficult for this viewer to remember the product names. Thanks for all the education and God bless.
I know this video is 4 years old, but I think it was fantastic! I just purchased a brand new 2021 Sierra 2500HD in black. I have been using ONR for years and been pretty happy with it, but I have some concerns now after watching your video. Any chance we can talk privately or answer my questions here? 1. Is ONR going to be bad for my black Sierra? 2. Does having a ceramic coat change the way I should wash? 3. Does the 2 bucket method with ONR provide some benefits? 4. Are there other products I should look at instead of ONR?
I'm a little confused with a few things here. I suppose the first and most obvious one is the application of ONR. Maybe this is something newer than your video, maybe the recommended application method has since changed, I'm not sure. From a number of sources I've seen that use ONR and other rinseless washes, the application method is very different from what you have shown. The application method I've seen used is soaking a wash mitt, microfiber towel(s), or sponge in the solution after filling a spray bottle with enough solution to spray down the vehicle. Once the spray bottle has been filled, then the wash media is immersed. From there the panel you are working on is first flooded with ONR from the spray bottle and allowed to work. Then the wash media is pulled from the bucket and wrung out until damp and dragged across the panel. The method you have shown is completely different from this and I can see how that would increase the likelihood of scratches on a vehicle with a soft clear coat as you put it. Secondly, you go on to state that ONR does not remove chemicals from the paint, such as fallout, oil, trans fluid, coolant etc. I don't think I've ever seen any mention in the marketing materials for ONR stating that it does. My understanding of the product is that it's meant to remove surface dirt and dust and is intended to leave your wax or sealant intact. You then go on to show that you use a surface prep solvent to remove said chemicals so that you know for sure that those chemicals aren't on the surface of the vehicle. What I'm confused by with this is you discussed hypothetical scenarios with customers wanting to use ONR as a maintenance wash after you performed a 2 step correction. Wouldn't your method remove the sealant or wax you put on after that correction? Wouldn't you want the customer to use a wash that won't strip the protection from the vehicle rather than use a prep solvent to remove all protection from the vehicle that you just put on when they wash the car? Lastly, certainly having contaminates in the paint is bad, and making sure the paint is free of them is a good thing. Using a sealant or a wax helps create a buffer between those surface contaminants and the paint. Do you recommend that your customers strip their surface protection down in-between washes if they do the washes themselves? I would think that would be counterintuitive, but I'm far from an expert so I would think there must be a good reason. My takeaway from ONR is that it's meant as a maintenance wash that will leave the the paints protection intact in-between details and safely remove surface dirt and dust without scratching the paint. I think it's targeted towards people that want to quickly and efficiently wash their cars without needing to drag out a hose or a pressure washer, or those that do not have access to a hose or pressure washer because they live in a housing development of some sort. I've been looking for a product like this so that I can have my car detailed, and have a 6 month sealant put on it and then do quick maintenance washes in-between. My car isn't driven in the rain, and is stored in the winter. Do you think this would be a good fit for me, or should I be looking elsewhere?
Good video, great advice how to properly use ONR and the after wash care. Love how you talk with your hands. :-) Do you think the quality of the microfiber towels used during the ONR process makes a difference? Would a better quality towel with higher GSM make a big difference in reducing scratches vs the ones available at costco or sams.
Thought I was the only one. I spend 3 to 4 hrs on my Acura TSX on a weekly basis. My wife hates that I take so long so she runs her Navigator through a brushed car wash. I then hit it with Zymöl spray wax, but it makes me cringe.
Well what the hell…now I need to do another step! What is “paint prep”. I was getting ready to ordered some ONR, so now I need paint prep too. Where do I find that? By the way which ONR would you pick up the shine or the wax version? Thx Scott! (I think). 🥴😁
Scott like your videso, but if you're using regular water that has a Total Dissolved Solids of >208, with the solids in the water yes I suppose you get scratches if what you say about water is causing the problem. But if you use Distilled Water, RO water, or Deionized water where the TDS is now gone during distillation; would you still get TDS that will cause marring or scarring of the paint?
How would this work with a ceramic coated vehicle? Would the panel prep alter the ceramic coating in any way ? Is there seperate chemicals to use in place of panel prep and spray wax if you have a ceramic coating ? I understand what you’re explaining about the non water soluble stuff thats on the surface due to wet roads . In place of the spray wax I would use a ceramic topper detail spray , but I don’t know what to use that would break down the trans fluid, motor oil ect without weakening or altering the ceramic coating and its positive properties . Sean from Nj 5/6/24
I just take a pump sprayer with foam, go to a coin wash, foam the car with bilt hamber touchless, leave it for a few minutes, pressure wash it off and when i have the time every 3 ish weeks i do a full traditional wash
Hey Scott, will these oils and fluids will remain after a pre-rinse with rinseless, power washed off, and then rinseless used and dried off? Was hoping to go rinseless on my black Lexus, and my foray into auto detailing makes me wish I had a grey car 😂
I think is good to use it in a not that dirty car. My process is: 1. Simple rinse down the car to remove some loose dirt. 2. Wash it with ONR. But I only drive my car 1 or two times a week, most of the time it just sitting on the driveway and collecting dirt :)
Hi can you tell me what is a paint prep, and which brand would you recommend. I'm looking to do a 2 step correction on my 2016 Charger, and I believe you stated to use a paint prep before a 2 step paint correction is done. I have very minor spider lines on my car. I wash it at least twice a week if not more and it is always keeped in my garage.
Matt over at the Obsessed Garage youtube channel just went to the Optimum training seminar. If you haven't watched these videos yet, I highly recommend doing so. Ivan at Optimum goes through his wash process with ONR. I find it funny that they recommend pre-spraying the car with ONR before washing, and Ivan even said that powerwashing beforehand is ideal on a filthy car.
yes they understand their product has limitations but thats fine..it was never meant to replace free flowing water but to help with cars that have light dust and dirt and for those in water restricted areas...but its still a great product!
@@LoveLikeaHurricane right lmao idfk why these ppl comparing pressure wash then soap vs just ONR. Pressure wash a dirty vehicle no matter the method.. If done to both, ONR is the superior cleaner.
Hey Scott! Can i pre treat with waterless in a pump spray bottle for bugs and then use wolfgang rinsless wash after? I watched your citral bug remover video and wondered do you ever use that product during a waterless or rinsless wash? Thanks
I wash my car twice a week. once a year I use Angelwax spray sealant. topped with the enigma ceramic wax. and finished the the enigma QED. Thats once per year. The other washes in between I either 1. Rinseless wash and dry. 2. Foam the car and rinse off and dry with a drying aid. Throughout the entire year the paint stays very hydrophobic. Water always beads up. Dirt and brake dust stay off my lower panels and wheels much more than co workers who do not protect the paint. Thats how I know my sealant and wax still works. I do not want to go over the whole car with a spray wax all the time. That seems like a waste to me. I would rather spend the money on high quality waxes and sealants once per year and easily maintain the coating. Ive seen people who have a true ceramic coating like from carpro or gyeon etc etc maintain it with the same methods I use and its even easier.
Hi Scott, have several questions about the Dupli-color wax and grease remover ... where do you get yours and how much does it cost? how does it compare to kleanstrip prep-all? what is the chemical composition? anything to watch out for while using?
@dallaspaintcorrectionautod8343 - Does(doesnt?) the panel prep strip ceramic coating on cars that have graphene/ceramic coatings? If so, how are you removing the contaminants from ceramic coated car?
Scott, question. What if water/ a “Rinseless wash” was not an issue? Could I use ONR as a “ Scrubless wash”? Just spray ONR on a bottle pressure sprayer , let it dwell on the paint for like a minute and pressure was the dirt off?
After washing with ONR, can't you just Force Air Dry the car with a Blower of some sort (leaf)? That way you dont have to worry about scurbbing hard to remove them and potential scratch the paint?
On well traveled streets take a look at the road after a rain when it hasn't rained for a while. In spots you can see rainbow oil spots sitting on the roads surface.
I’ve heard ONR is suppose to act like a drying aid. Could it be more difficult to buff if there’s 1 oz of solution per gallon of water, as apposed to the recommended 0.5 oz per gallon of water?
I presoak each panel with ONR solution to get it working on the panel before I ever even touch with a towel. I use wash mitts instead of towels and use 3 - 4 per vehicle.
Quick tip, which works for me. Put ONR in a pump sprayer and use high quality micro fiber towels. Yes, I may go through a few more towels but I've never had an issue with it scratching the surface.
T G what would you consider high quality micro fiber towels?
Great for maintenance washing. It kind of screws up the towels though
@@anthonycontreras9251 something like the Eagle Edgeless from The Rag Company. Scott's towels are durable and very high quality as well.. 👍✌
What I do and get great results. How do you get transmission fluid on a vehicle?
dude the details and information you know is GOLD. I cant say how much i appreciate your videos. I always loved detailing but everyone was so quiet about what they use, and their techniques. Appreciate all the info.
Scott you are SPOT ON! I’ve been noticing the day after my car’s been through rain, I ONR wash with the big red sponge. But the sponge accumulates oily soiling that is only removed with PowerClean. Never thought to paint prep since this critical step is NOT mentioned in professional detailing for a “weekly wash.” You’re the man!
True story ????
Scott; whenever I use ONR, I'll mix as shown on the directions with distilled water and then in the solution bucket, I'll put in a dozen of clean microfiber towels. Use one per panel then it goes in another dry bucket to wash the towels later. Never dunk the towel back in the solution bucket after washing the panel. So far so good. Yes, a lot of towels to wash but the paint is good. Just my procedure since I've got a lot of towels.
It seems a good way ! What kind of microfiber towels do you use ?
Thanks for this idea! I have a new car with new Ceramic Coating I want to take the best care of.
Another good way is just folding the towel in 4ths and using new towels. Then after they have been used for paint I use them for interior detailing
Your distilled water is key...all of the junk in people's tap water is causing the issues
Gary Dean wash method...youtube it.
Love the way you look through the fog of detailing marketing and strip it back with bucket fulls of common sense 👍🇬🇧
Scott! I don't ever get bored of your videos even though it's very long, it's all worth it because it's full of boss information on auto detailing keep it up boss!!
Start from 15:07 for the final summary if you're short on time.
You and Pan are the only two detailers I listen to. Awesome job!
Hey Scott,
I solved my problem. #1 I put a coating on my vehicle and that fixed the washed induced marring. #2 I use a drying aid such as Opti-Seal or C2V3 when drying and that seemed to completely eliminate the buffing that I had to do.
It was because the entire truck has been reclear'd and the new clear isn't the hardest stuff in the world. I'll make a video about everything soon enough.
thats cool...and it makes sense because your make typically doesn't have a soft clear...auto body shop clear can drive you nuts sometimes..lol..im happy you found a solution and love talking to you:)
Is "AFTER WASH" from chem guys a good drying agent, or what one do you recommend. One that is not a sealer.
I've been using Garry Dean's Infinite Use Detail Juice as a drying aid. Much cheaper than After Wash.
Hmmm, 6yrs, where is your video 😢
@@paulr5027 I sold that truck 4yrs ago.
I'm going to listen to you. Your the only guy that tells the truth instead of what I want to hear. I had a problem with water spots and I spent a ton of money on products that don't work even though you said the water spots are etched into the paint and the only resolution is wet sanding. I guess you have earned the right to say "I told you so". Thanks for the honesty. I'm listening to you now.
I foam cannon my truck a few times a year and use ONR every week or so (don't cringe, ha!) and love it. For me it's just so much quicker and convenient. Also, glad to see you give Garry Dean a shout out because I prefer his method over what Optimum actually recommends. Thanks for the video and appreciate the time you put into these.
Optimum always told to use microfiber towels to wash your vehicle (way before Garry Dean). It is only lately they come up with Big Red Sponge.
Sherukka True, but the "Gary Dean" method is you never put a used towel back in the clean solution to re-wet. You pre-soak 5-6 towels and always use a fresh un contaminated towel.
Nooby Vapor Yeah, that's true but I always thought about it that way when I first time read the instructions on the ONR bottle. :)
2022 Harley Davidson my clear coat is so soft no sure it’s even there anymore 😂😂. New quality todays world absolutely a joke.
From what I can see, it seems like you don't prespray the car. That's not the best way to do it. Pre-spray with ONR-water at the standard dilution, or for a really dirty car, use your pressure washer and use ONR like a normal wash soap. My Tesla has really soft clear coat and ONR works well for me, I just don't put my mitt on dry paint.
I wash my black truck weekly with onr wash and wax. pre spray, microfiber noodle mit, seperate rinse bucket. dry gently with a platinum pluffle and spray of meguiars spray wax. looking great and swirl free after a year and a half. works for me!
JP, that’s impressive. I have been considering ONR, but drive a black Escalade and have been hesitant to move forward. Thanks for the feedback
@@curtsmith9811 scared of that soft gm paint😂
You get those results because you pre rinse your vehicle! A true water less wash you obviously wouldn’t pre rinse your vehicle that’s when the scratching can happen with waterless washes or ONR. If you choose to pre rinse then use ONR you will be fine.
So when using a waterless product should i always pre rinse then while drying use the product? My car is in my pic any tips for keeping it protected and clean? Plz help
@@andrewyaadigg ONR is NOT waterless, it is rinseless… It is quite different: you don't have to rinse it before drying the vehicle in the final step.
I have 2 Japanese cars and never had that problem with the ONR. After a few years of ownership both cars have minimal swirls. The most important thing is being gentle and applying almost no pressure. Also if the car is heavily soiled I pre spray ONR onto the panel.
They say to "appply" the solution, then dry off.
When I started doing it that way, it made the process much faster.
The only time I had ONR fail on me was on a track car that had racing fuel residue, and tire residue all over it.
I had to use glass cleaner on the film, and goof off on the tire rubber..
When I tried the ONR it didn't do anything but make a mess.
You take spitting facts to another level..
Scott, big thanks for all the detail you put into a video's. It's really cool that you choose to share your personal experience maintaining cars paint finish. Really wish the auto makers would work on improving the auto paint process they use. I'm a real fanatic about keeping up my rides paint finish, to me it's so important, I despise a neglected car.
Ive personally had good luck with the wolfgang waterless wash and their waterless wash mitt. Soak it in the 5 gallon bucket for a few minutes and wash a section at a time then rub the mitt on the grit guard and wring it out. Repeat. Use a waffle weave drying towel over a ultra plush since they are notorious for smearing and leaving streaks. I only use an ultra plush towel after the car has been dried to get any streak or smear i may have created. Hope this helps.
Great video Scott! I myself use onr for wash solution, clay lube, and glass cleaner as a maintenance wash only....not intended to wash heavily soiled vehicles...if u do wash your car exclusively with onr go through the touchless wash first...
As everyone else mentioned , quality information and facts that are really known about the product. Thanks for taking the time to inform the UA-cam community!
A 5 yr old video just solved my problem. Who would've thunk it. I love rinseless wash but it does streak. I couldn't figure out how to solve that so I tried the IPA and boom. Whatever allowed you to figure this out I'm glad for it and glad you passed it along. Thank you. I'm still new to the business so any tricks I can learn to be better is worth it!! Thanks again!!
Are you using it in the sun? Because mine doesn’t streak at all. Presoak, wash, presoak again, dry with additional drying aid
@@schmidtygt some people are just starting out in the biz and don't have resources to buy every product available on the market. Rinseless wash does streak. I found a way to solve it for now.
@@detailgrandma22 my process costs less than buying an ipa…. It takes rinseless wash and more rinseless wash. Additional drying aid is the only additive and that’s solely for slickness since the rinseless is the drying aid. Just re-mist the surface before you dry. I’m a college kid who just does my own detailing so I don’t have access to everything under the sun either
Thanks Scott for all the time you take to make these videos. It’s greatly appreciated, I have a learned a lot from your thorough approach and explanations. Keep up the great work and thanks again for all the education you provide. Best of luck to you and may you have a prosperous 2018.
Hey Scott. Im a big fan of Rinseless wash. Im using ONR and Ech2o and im very happy with this. Love your Videos. Great job. Greetz from Germany - Berlin City. Keep going !
hello Germany!...much love to you and Germany:)...thanks so much
What about a 2 bucket system when doing rinseless?
thanks,,, never thought of the street dirt I was never sure of the or method
I made the same mistake until I realized that I was missing one important step, you need to first spray rinseless wash on the panel, let it work and soften the dirt, after which you can wipe with a wet sponge or microfiber with minimal pressure
You can't just attack a panel with a rag. It needs to loosen up and be picked up by the onr. That's why a pump sprayer is vital as a pre soak
This! Preach. You’re absolutely right, this is why they say apply the solution to the panel, because it’s the chemical doing the work, not you. I’ve seen it in action and it blows my mind every time.
Scott...another great video...there are no holes in your rhetoric...your opinion and analysis is straightforward and sensible...and besides, try to get two doctors to agree on anything!...you keep talking and we realists will keep listening !...love you man !
"I get tramendous amounts of compliments of people at grocery stores" hilarious and informative for real though
You make some good points, but I cringe when I see you use a dry microfiber towel to dry with. Getting it wet and ringing it out will provide some lubrication to the drying process.
rinseless wash works without scratches ONLY if it was previously sprayed on the panel
If the paint has iron contamination, remains of asphalt, grease or the car is too dirty, then it is better to decontaminate before cleaning with that product and that method. Carpro Iron X and Carpro Tar X are good for that. There is another product of this brand called "Carpro Trix" that is like a mixture of the previous products. There are no miracles in detailing. Also, the towels should be as fluffy as possible and be very careful, do not tighten at all. And yes! Japanese and Korean cars have a very delicate paint!
Greetings from Spain.
Won’t the paint prep remove the waxes or sealants on your vehicle?
If your paint surface is waxed, rinseless wash will be a joy to use.
Was using ONR as a detailer. Scratches my paint. Also, leaves tiny water spots. Had to use compound to remove.
I am great fan of Rinseless Wash. Matter in fact, I have the following:
-Wolfgang Uber Rinseless
-Optimum No Rinse
-Ultima Waterless Wash
-McKee's 37 Rinse Free Wash & Wax
-Pinnacle Liquid Crystal Waterless Wash
However, it is not a subtitute for a two bucket wash.
I also wonder why we can't comment on Garry Dean's videos.
Which is the best rinseless wash?
I drive a black 2017 Honda Civic, I ONLY use rinseless washes, and aside from the odd hairline micro scratch(talking super light, 30 seconds on the buffer) I almost never get scratches or swirls. It is about technique(there are some tricks that are very important) it is also about using the right towel, and, back to technique, using the towel right. I dont only do my own car, I work in a high volume environment(10+ cars a day) and almost never have problems. I fully wash cars with speed shine. I fully wash cars with random auto soaps in spray form, I fully wash cars with random other quick detailers. I even do our super picky dealership owners car as well as super picky shop managers car using the same material and techniques. Obviously every time you touch paint there is a risk of scratching no matter why you are touching it or what you are touching it with. If you use good best practices you can at the very least make sure any scratching that does happen is minimal and easily fixed. It sounds to me like this guy should not be using rinseless wash on someone elses car until he perfects his technique on his own cars. I NEVER use any technique or gear on anyone elses car until I have had full and ongoing success on my own ultra soft black Honda paint, to do otherwise would be irresponsible
Hi Scott, love your video.
You mentioned paint prep, is that isopropyl alcohol?
I only use waterless wash to remove minor dust, and I keep up with it between each drive. If it gets too dirty, I won’t use it. The example he used was 2 weeks between washes which I won’t do. Luckily my 370z has hard clear coat.
If I understand this correctly...you're wiping the car with a microfiber towel that is saturated in an ONR solution. You take that towel, wipe your cars panel, and then use a paint prep on the area you previously wiped to remove oil left on the car, and then another towel to dry. That makes perfect sense. The confusion I'm having is when you put the microfiber towel back into the bucket, in order to get ONR on it and clean the rest of the car, you're still putting oil back into the bucket from the initial wipe. Am I wrong?
You use a different towel with the paint prep, which is what removes the oil and fluid residues.
Apologies if I've got this wrong but the problem can be solved by using multiple microfibre cloths/mitts instead of returning the dirty cloth into the ONR bucket and solution -then there's no oil slick which you would be spreading across your car if you try to rinse one cloth into the ONR bucket.
Amigo saludos desde el salvador quiero decirte que eres el mejor y te lo digo humildemente ...no me pierdo ninguno de tus videos eres real amigo saludos cuidate
Awesome video.... I use ONR exclusively on my tesla model s and I use it on my wife’s Kia Optima. I will use the methods and products you showed here. I think you just solved a few issues I have been having with using the ONR exclusively. Thanks man!
Scott, good point to not rely on ONR for overall protection of the paint time after time.
scott how about dunking 3 or 4 nice microfiber towel into a gallon of distilled water and onr solution fold them into four's and use a clean side of it on every different panel and never get that solution dirty oily is that a good idea to use
I may be a bit obsessive, but I use a clean side every wipe.
At least you're honest. Your go to move is to basically strip all protections based on previous applications of protective products.
I'd like to think that a half decent quality ceramic coating wouldn't require a weekly stripping and re-application of protection.
I'm not sold on Optimum but it seems to be a more efficient way to wash a car. Ultimately, paint protection is our goal.
I do a quick wash with ONR and the car is clean. I do an AvalonKing coating and I am happy. Beyond that, I just want to ensure the car is easy to clean for my daughter. I've already spent 4 hours plus detailing the car using Meguiars Ultimate polish technology and my DA. I'm looking for something that works and I don't have to do another 4 hour marathon. I'm an old man, that damn near killed me...........LOL
The car was prepped and clayed (Griot's Garage Clay) followed by the Ultimate Meguiars product. I'm out of gas. Also, I did a GEYOUN (sp?) IPA wipe down after the Ulimate polish before the AvalonKing coating.
I had to sleep for two days after that insanity.
It's a tough road to hoe. My daughter's Camaro is bad ass and I intend to keep it that way.,
I'll take a nap and hope for the best.
Reason why Garry dean doesnt allow comments its cause he wants you to interact with him personally. He puts his number in every one of his videos.
i agree with him but as a youtube creator myself, he also knows the amount of haters on youtube and he would rather not deal with it and i don't blame him...those who hate on youtube would never pick up the phone just to tell him what they really think but its far easier for them do it behind the safety of their PC and spread their hate...he limits that negative energy by turning off the comments and making people call him for advice or direction.....Garry understands how youtube works and he is very smart to ask people to call him personally:)
He's just afraid of the criticism regarding his products. Too many that do the same thing and priced too high.
Where did you get your paint prep mix? I only saw on amazon in aerosol spray can. Is that the correct one?
Good advice. What is "paint prepping"?
yeah, I think you're supposed to spray it with the mixture as well as having the towel soaked in it. But what you said about certain brands having a "soft" clear coat, I'm sure plays a factor.
Thanks for the info
Thank you for clarity, easier ways of doing it right . Keep up the good work Scott much appreciated👍😎
Can Chemical Guys wipe out surface cleanser replace the duplicolor paint prep?
I wonder if running a durable sealant cured underneath would address the issue with using a waterless wash on soft clearcoat. It also occurs to me that there are warnings about certain waxes known to degrade clearcoat when applied directly.
Never thought of using a wax and grease remover as a second step. ✔️
Weekley or EOW
Why not just foam purple power as pre wash. Rinse
Contact wash with foam from a good wash rinse
Then apply a good spray wax or the poly gloss foam..
This seems like a lot of work, I'd rather just wash my car every week at a coin wash then do this. Great video as always, I was considering using rinseless wash every other week to save time on washing weekly, but this helped me rethink that.
What is the difference between running a wash mitt (or whatever you use) over the car the traditional soap/ water way that is different from using onr that would cause less scratches? I've used onr for years, and although you remove the dirt differently, initially you are still "rubbing" dirt off your car.
Your thoughts?
Thank you very much love the channel.
My opinion on the difference is that with a "normal" way with soap and water, is that you are going to PRE spray the vehicle BEFORE you actually begin to wash it. All that MAJOR dirt is taken off with your high pressure pre rinse. Then of coarse you will PROBABLY pre-soak the car and rinse again, Then you get into the actual washing of the car with your sponge or mitt, of course using the proper equipment to be sure all the dirt runs to the bottom of the bucket UNDER your bucket grid protector. With a water-less wash (if done INCORRECTLY) you are basically just diving in with a sponge which is akin to using sand paper.
Another great review my friend! Never even thought of it that way. Thanks for sharing!
i believe that no matter what method is being used, rinseless or traditional the use of a TFR and a pressure wash to remove as much road grime as possible is a must.
True, if it's really dirty..
Just did a very dirty vehicle with a rinsless wash. Pre soaked the vehicle with 256:1 then went with the rag company sponge and then dried it afterwards
Scott, would you mind to list the products that you are using below you videos? Sometimes it is difficult for this viewer to remember the product names. Thanks for all the education and God bless.
Very smart observation scott. I agree with all you said.
I know this video is 4 years old, but I think it was fantastic! I just purchased a brand new 2021 Sierra 2500HD in black. I have been using ONR for years and been pretty happy with it, but I have some concerns now after watching your video. Any chance we can talk privately or answer my questions here?
1. Is ONR going to be bad for my black Sierra?
2. Does having a ceramic coat change the way I should wash?
3. Does the 2 bucket method with ONR provide some benefits?
4. Are there other products I should look at instead of ONR?
Some people say ONR is just a lubricant for the water so when you wipe the car the solution will minimize scratches.
Basically. Other rinseless washes contain surfactants that help encapsulate and carry away dirt and oils/fluids.
What about a second bucket to wring out then refresh into the ONR bucket
I'm a little confused with a few things here. I suppose the first and most obvious one is the application of ONR. Maybe this is something newer than your video, maybe the recommended application method has since changed, I'm not sure. From a number of sources I've seen that use ONR and other rinseless washes, the application method is very different from what you have shown. The application method I've seen used is soaking a wash mitt, microfiber towel(s), or sponge in the solution after filling a spray bottle with enough solution to spray down the vehicle. Once the spray bottle has been filled, then the wash media is immersed. From there the panel you are working on is first flooded with ONR from the spray bottle and allowed to work. Then the wash media is pulled from the bucket and wrung out until damp and dragged across the panel. The method you have shown is completely different from this and I can see how that would increase the likelihood of scratches on a vehicle with a soft clear coat as you put it.
Secondly, you go on to state that ONR does not remove chemicals from the paint, such as fallout, oil, trans fluid, coolant etc. I don't think I've ever seen any mention in the marketing materials for ONR stating that it does. My understanding of the product is that it's meant to remove surface dirt and dust and is intended to leave your wax or sealant intact. You then go on to show that you use a surface prep solvent to remove said chemicals so that you know for sure that those chemicals aren't on the surface of the vehicle. What I'm confused by with this is you discussed hypothetical scenarios with customers wanting to use ONR as a maintenance wash after you performed a 2 step correction. Wouldn't your method remove the sealant or wax you put on after that correction? Wouldn't you want the customer to use a wash that won't strip the protection from the vehicle rather than use a prep solvent to remove all protection from the vehicle that you just put on when they wash the car?
Lastly, certainly having contaminates in the paint is bad, and making sure the paint is free of them is a good thing. Using a sealant or a wax helps create a buffer between those surface contaminants and the paint. Do you recommend that your customers strip their surface protection down in-between washes if they do the washes themselves? I would think that would be counterintuitive, but I'm far from an expert so I would think there must be a good reason.
My takeaway from ONR is that it's meant as a maintenance wash that will leave the the paints protection intact in-between details and safely remove surface dirt and dust without scratching the paint. I think it's targeted towards people that want to quickly and efficiently wash their cars without needing to drag out a hose or a pressure washer, or those that do not have access to a hose or pressure washer because they live in a housing development of some sort. I've been looking for a product like this so that I can have my car detailed, and have a 6 month sealant put on it and then do quick maintenance washes in-between. My car isn't driven in the rain, and is stored in the winter. Do you think this would be a good fit for me, or should I be looking elsewhere?
Hi! Can I use spray paint prep on a ceramic coated car? Thanks 🙏
I was thinking the same, we need a comparison between just plain cold water and ONR
Good video, great advice how to properly use ONR and the after wash care. Love how you talk with your hands. :-) Do you think the quality of the microfiber towels used during the ONR process makes a difference? Would a better quality towel with higher GSM make a big difference in reducing scratches vs the ones available at costco or sams.
I presoak my panels too for added lubrication and I put lots of coats of protection for added lubricity.
I'd fail miserably at detailing professionally. My OCD would make sure of that. It takes me 4 hours to hand wash and wax mine.
well if your being paid for that time and enjoying the process, you will do just fine...many people will pay for guys that have OCD:)
Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing thx for the vote of confidence. Enjoy your channel.
Thought I was the only one. I spend 3 to 4 hrs on my Acura TSX on a weekly basis. My wife hates that I take so long so she runs her Navigator through a brushed car wash. I then hit it with Zymöl spray wax, but it makes me cringe.
OCD is not always a minus.Many people today are doing just fine because of their OCD.
Well what the hell…now I need to do another step! What is “paint prep”. I was getting ready to ordered some ONR, so now I need paint prep too. Where do I find that? By the way which ONR would you pick up the shine or the wax version? Thx Scott! (I think). 🥴😁
I found some Mothers CMX surface prep at Ollie’s for $5 a bottle. Now that I see this I think I’ll get some more.
So what kind of pro active cleaning do you recommand after a 2 step correction on black paint ?? You didn't say it !? (Please answer this^^)
Your next step is sealant
Scott like your videso, but if you're using regular water that has a Total Dissolved Solids of >208, with the solids in the water yes I suppose you get scratches if what you say about water is causing the problem. But if you use Distilled Water, RO water, or Deionized water where the TDS is now gone during distillation; would you still get TDS that will cause marring or scarring of the paint?
I have learned so much from watching your videos.
How would this work with a ceramic coated vehicle? Would the panel prep alter the ceramic coating in any way ? Is there seperate chemicals to use in place of panel prep and spray wax if you have a ceramic coating ? I understand what you’re explaining about the non water soluble stuff thats on the surface due to wet roads . In place of the spray wax I would use a ceramic topper detail spray , but I don’t know what to use that would break down the trans fluid, motor oil ect without weakening or altering the ceramic coating and its positive properties . Sean from Nj 5/6/24
I just take a pump sprayer with foam, go to a coin wash, foam the car with bilt hamber touchless, leave it for a few minutes, pressure wash it off and when i have the time every 3 ish weeks i do a full traditional wash
Hey Scott, will these oils and fluids will remain after a pre-rinse with rinseless, power washed off, and then rinseless used and dried off?
Was hoping to go rinseless on my black Lexus, and my foray into auto detailing makes me wish I had a grey car 😂
I think is good to use it in a not that dirty car.
My process is:
1. Simple rinse down the car to remove some loose dirt.
2. Wash it with ONR.
But I only drive my car 1 or two times a week, most of the time it just sitting on the driveway and collecting dirt :)
Hi can you tell me what is a paint prep, and which brand would you recommend. I'm looking to do a 2 step correction on my 2016 Charger, and I believe you stated to use a paint prep before a 2 step paint correction is done. I have very minor spider lines on my car. I wash it at least twice a week if not more and it is always keeped in my garage.
Yes!
Matt over at the Obsessed Garage youtube channel just went to the Optimum training seminar. If you haven't watched these videos yet, I highly recommend doing so. Ivan at Optimum goes through his wash process with ONR.
I find it funny that they recommend pre-spraying the car with ONR before washing, and Ivan even said that powerwashing beforehand is ideal on a filthy car.
yes they understand their product has limitations but thats fine..it was never meant to replace free flowing water but to help with cars that have light dust and dirt and for those in water restricted areas...but its still a great product!
Charles Cook no different than spraying a car down before a soap wash. Soap wash has limitations apparently...
@@LoveLikeaHurricane right lmao idfk why these ppl comparing pressure wash then soap vs just ONR. Pressure wash a dirty vehicle no matter the method.. If done to both, ONR is the superior cleaner.
@@whitegoodman7465better to spray on a good cleaner first and let it do the work. On either kind of wash. Rinseless helps give a spot-free dry though.
What’s the alternative? if ONR scratches then regular shampoo do it as well.
Hey Scott! Can i pre treat with waterless in a pump spray bottle for bugs and then use wolfgang rinsless wash after? I watched your citral bug remover video and wondered do you ever use that product during a waterless or rinsless wash? Thanks
Are these additional products (the spray wax) ok for ceramic coatings?
I wash my car twice a week. once a year I use Angelwax spray sealant. topped with the enigma ceramic wax. and finished the the enigma QED. Thats once per year. The other washes in between I either 1. Rinseless wash and dry. 2. Foam the car and rinse off and dry with a drying aid. Throughout the entire year the paint stays very hydrophobic. Water always beads up. Dirt and brake dust stay off my lower panels and wheels much more than co workers who do not protect the paint. Thats how I know my sealant and wax still works. I do not want to go over the whole car with a spray wax all the time. That seems like a waste to me. I would rather spend the money on high quality waxes and sealants once per year and easily maintain the coating. Ive seen people who have a true ceramic coating like from carpro or gyeon etc etc maintain it with the same methods I use and its even easier.
Hi Scott, have several questions about the Dupli-color wax and grease remover ... where do you get yours and how much does it cost? how does it compare to kleanstrip prep-all? what is the chemical composition? anything to watch out for while using?
Would pre-spraying water out of a pump sprayer before using the ONR soaked microfiber help at all?
I was thinking about doing that, I dont see any harm.
@dallaspaintcorrectionautod8343 - Does(doesnt?) the panel prep strip ceramic coating on cars that have graphene/ceramic coatings? If so, how are you removing the contaminants from ceramic coated car?
Scott, question.
What if water/ a “Rinseless wash” was not an issue? Could I use ONR as a “ Scrubless wash”? Just spray ONR on a bottle pressure sprayer , let it dwell on the paint for like a minute and pressure was the dirt off?
how often should I clean my car to maintain it ? what is the optimal ?
I like the 6 mitt technique, foam cannon...no buckets.
Thanks for the great video!
Hope all is well.
Warm Regards.
After washing with ONR, can't you just Force Air Dry the car with a Blower of some sort (leaf)? That way you dont have to worry about scurbbing hard to remove them and potential scratch the paint?
Dude, you are spitting a lot.
On well traveled streets take a look at the road after a rain when it hasn't rained for a while. In spots you can see rainbow oil spots sitting on the roads surface.
I’ve heard ONR is suppose to act like a drying aid. Could it be more difficult to buff if there’s 1 oz of solution per gallon of water, as apposed to the recommended 0.5 oz per gallon of water?
Is paint prep safe to use on ceramic coated vehicles?
Shouldn't ONR be fine if you pre-wash with foam etc, before hand wash if you're concerned about grease?
Hey its great in January in the garage. Especially with WAY bucket of hot water.
So are you saying that 2 bucket method is superior to this method? What id you put a little ONR in the wash bucket?