Nairo whooped his ass so hard on stream if I recalled it right But Nairo is one of the , if not the first person to develop to Sephiroth meta , even Leo , Tweek , Cosmos watch him play
@@jojoadac9400 probably does, but might be harder with bowser since he's so large. his oos game is already pretty nuts so there's not really any reason to go for it though
lol jump a jump a, was a slight to Neds Sephiroth campy behavior on the character. I am aware how difficult playing fox is. Before I retired I used to play Fox recreationally, Samus for Cheese, Serious as Wolf.
U gotta stop blaming your character bro. Ur my fav player but be honest. You’ve been flopping. U hit a slump during rona era. You’re good just not at the level you were pre rona and now ur not making top8 at big tournaments. You’re scared. Embrace it. Practice more. I believe
Sephiroth doesn't need to be afraid at ledge, fair and side special mixed with up special will make them have to let you up unless they get a crazy down spike
It stress me a lot when ned misses an up smash punish when a missed tech on platform gives every time is almost guaranted kill and even if you dont succed they cannot punish it!
Ned Sephirothbis amazing. I still feel he can abuse shadow flare a little bit more and use mega flare( blue) to force an opponent do an option nid air while they are on disadvantsge and then punish properly. Anyways I still feel Seph needs a buff or rather an adjustment to his properties. See, good glass cannon like fox have just 1 or 2 disadvantages. Fox disadvantages being his weight and dreadful recovery, but he makes up for it with good frame data, combos confirms and good kill power with upsmash. Seph has range and a comeback mechanic that makes his movement speed and power better, but his disadvsntages are way too many considering other characters with similar range( Byleth) have way less disadvantsges. Seph got light weigh, massive lag on his moves, no OoS options, tipper, cant hit medium to small characters with F.air. His charscter hitbox is similar to a big character, cant store projectiles and so on.
Its kind of funny. I agree with you a lot on this. Most people seem to think Sephiroth is really good and they ignore all of his flaws except for his weight. I rarely hear people talk about Sephiroth's frame data, last time I checked I think Sephiroth has one of the worst frame data in the game. Or how difficult it is to hit a lot of his moves. Like all of his attacks are punishable from most distances. Most of his attacks are not safe on shield regardless of the distance. You cannot whiff as sephiroth. You have no out of shield options, Fair is one of his main attacks but you have to frame perfect fast fall fair and even then if the opponent is short and or does a move that pushes them to the ground its going to whiff. Its crazy seeing ned whiff his bair, even top tier players whiff that move, and if the move doesn't come out its a hard punish. The other thing is one wing is overhyped. As you see in this match a lot of times the instant sephiroth gets one wing, he is at kill percent, and only has it for a couple of seconds before he gets killed. The commentators also bring up how Sephiroth has super armor on his smash attacks with one wing, but I think I saw maybe one or two smash attacks from ned the whole set, and none of them connected. Sephiroth's smash attacks are not really that good and not designed to take advantage of super armor.
@@Arunnejiro Absolutely agree on this. One wing is overhyped and the reason being is that even though Sephiroth gains a bit more power and speed, he still have the same core problems. I think what you said is correct, Sephiroth CANNOT whiff which is very odd. If you take super heavyweights like bowser or Krool they do have some sort of way to punish the oponent. Sephiroth is the only character in the game where you can dance around him, poke his shield and do anything you want. You force the Seph player to take his distance to start with neutral again. Also regarding the super armor, yes, it feels his design is lackluster or lazy and some things on his kit makes not sense at all. Super armor at this point is a gimmick and the initial frames of super armor are not even that great which means they can hit you before the super armor frames activates and you'll die anyways. If Seph super Amor was like Little Mac then it would be better I guess. From all of his smash attacks I think the most useful one in my opinion is the up smash. Great anti air. Down smash is super readable and people expect it because of the shield break and F smash is so laggy that is not worth it. I like how winged seph f. smash is weaker than Pyra's and iPyra does not need tipper
camp all day jump a. There is a reason why game 5 was stomp is because most fox players dont have the patience to wait on campers. but on game 5 feel free to make this as painful as you like np.
it is not imposible. Anyone with counter xan challenge him and if you know he is going to charge the octalash to go back to the stage you can gimp him out the same way you gimp fox or falco and you just come bsck to the stage asuming your charscter has a gokd recovery
Ned always jumps from the ledge, everytime... surprised Ned doesn't realize this, Light could have easily just ran under him and upsmash only happened once, but back air deaths also works
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Ned is becoming one of my favorites to watch coming out of quarantine! Light awesome too especially against marss.
Word Ned is definitely improving.
I'm loving all the different characters in top 32. Nice variety
Yeah that's why I love ultimate there isn't just one character that dominates the meta
@@charlenflame You wait until the dust settles down. 90% will be pyra.
@@Virosaa Joker is better lol
And now Soranetta is here to make sure that top 32 is all Sora.
Thanks Sakurai!
@@Virosaa the more people play pythra the more the pros can adapt
Light is such an extraordinary player man. Neds sephiroth is disgusting too tho
HIYAAA
Light is over here rollin up his sleeves, snatching his mask off 😹
He always does that when he’s serious
Chag took off his shirt
Optimal
These players' quirks make me feel like I'm watching an anime tournament arc.
He's taking his training weights off 😂
Holy shit this set was hype. Like anything with Light is hype but boy.
Light looking like Jesus Christ lol.
Seeing these Fox combos brings me back two years ago. Man
He's sponsored by Jesus
Bro gets crucified every time he gets off stage.
Light got that matchup experience vs Nairo
Nairo whooped his ass so hard on stream if I recalled it right
But Nairo is one of the , if not the first person to develop to Sephiroth meta , even Leo , Tweek , Cosmos watch him play
I was gonna say the same thing lol
@@陳嘉宇-y4q Didn't Light do really well Vs Nairo on stream?
@@CaptainPotato3D , yup. I remember that stream. Both Nairo and Light had their string of wins against each other.
@@陳嘉宇-y4q you recalled it half right lmao. They had a run of wins against each other.
Ned made this MU look easily even if not at some times in favor of seph. Was nuts
Ned played so well
Top notch commentary Holy shit they're really good... they know whats going on in games and they didn't go off topic. Great job logic and Charles
footstool dair, ned is sick
Dumb question, but does that work with bowser too?
@@jojoadac9400 probably does, but might be harder with bowser since he's so large. his oos game is already pretty nuts so there's not really any reason to go for it though
Love the vids man
BRO THIS SET IS HYPE AF
I had no idea Ned was this hype!!!
Logik and Charlie such good combination commentating
something about seeing the player cams watching them move around in their chairs is hype! really shows the emotion and passion they have
I was hoping Ned would take the win, but Light is a tough opponent. Awesome battle. Both are great players.
lol jump a jump a, was a slight to Neds Sephiroth campy behavior on the character. I am aware how difficult playing fox is. Before I retired I used to play Fox recreationally, Samus for Cheese, Serious as Wolf.
@@Turnpost2552 yep, it's definitely just that. Just go there and replicate it.
@@dieblauebedrohung I understand what your insinuating, I know its not that easy.
Ned Sephiroth is so awesome
The space are precise
@@陳嘉宇-y4q It's very impressive to see that level of precision. Great match
I think Ned isn’t ready for Light’s Up smashes , which is reasonable , no one can react to that
they both played so well but ofc the moist always wins
4:53 0 to death (cause Sephiroth did not get hit back)
That matchup is very hard for Seph, but Ned did so well!
19:10 bruh the sync to the music
Amazing set by both players. Shout out to the commentators who did a fantastic job as well.
6:14 footstool kill
2:30 light making this look like melee
Damn I was hoping NED was gonna get it 🥲 great play from light but NED Is a problem for the future
5:15 light pulling his sleeves up as if that did anything
it does
anyone know the song in the outro?
8:25 anyone notice Light freaking yawned!? XD
U gotta stop blaming your character bro. Ur my fav player but be honest. You’ve been flopping. U hit a slump during rona era. You’re good just not at the level you were pre rona and now ur not making top8 at big tournaments. You’re scared. Embrace it. Practice more. I believe
lmaooo
Who are you talking about?
Huh? Who's this to
I can't believe this has become a copypasta
Lmaoo
Lightさんのは観戦すると毎回、何秒か息をするのを普通に忘れる。
GREAT sets, nice to see Light actually having a good fight. Hats off for Ned too, VERY good Sehpy.
Sephiroth doesn't need to be afraid at ledge, fair and side special mixed with up special will make them have to let you up unless they get a crazy down spike
Light making full use of them practices with Nairo
This set is MONSTROUS.
That first stock in game 5 on bed by light is so clean
LOL, didn't know that Sephiroth was part of the roster.
Yeah, Ned is like the only Pro player that plays him really well.
It stress me a lot when ned misses an up smash punish when a missed tech on platform gives every time is almost guaranted kill and even if you dont succed they cannot punish it!
1:38
Okay- I call hacks there.
Bro.... ned got good
2 foot stools in one game
19:59
If you know, you know.
Neds seph is sooo sick
4:58 Zero to Death
Really surprised that light didn't just shine the counter at ledge to reverse the KO a single time lol. Still, really good stuff from both players.
ned is too much fun to watch on the seph
My heart could not handle this
I wanna see Light vs Kola so badly.
Bruh I have never seen a sephiroth win In a 2 or 3 game match. But at last I finally found it
3:04 commentators curse
Ned Sephirothbis amazing. I still feel he can abuse shadow flare a little bit more and use mega flare( blue) to force an opponent do an option nid air while they are on disadvantsge and then punish properly.
Anyways I still feel Seph needs a buff or rather an adjustment to his properties. See, good glass cannon like fox have just 1 or 2 disadvantages. Fox disadvantages being his weight and dreadful recovery, but he makes up for it with good frame data, combos confirms and good kill power with upsmash. Seph has range and a comeback mechanic that makes his movement speed and power better, but his disadvsntages are way too many considering other characters with similar range( Byleth) have way less disadvantsges. Seph got light weigh, massive lag on his moves, no OoS options, tipper, cant hit medium to small characters with F.air. His charscter hitbox is similar to a big character, cant store projectiles and so on.
Its kind of funny. I agree with you a lot on this. Most people seem to think Sephiroth is really good and they ignore all of his flaws except for his weight.
I rarely hear people talk about Sephiroth's frame data, last time I checked I think Sephiroth has one of the worst frame data in the game. Or how difficult it is to hit a lot of his moves. Like all of his attacks are punishable from most distances. Most of his attacks are not safe on shield regardless of the distance. You cannot whiff as sephiroth. You have no out of shield options, Fair is one of his main attacks but you have to frame perfect fast fall fair and even then if the opponent is short and or does a move that pushes them to the ground its going to whiff. Its crazy seeing ned whiff his bair, even top tier players whiff that move, and if the move doesn't come out its a hard punish.
The other thing is one wing is overhyped. As you see in this match a lot of times the instant sephiroth gets one wing, he is at kill percent, and only has it for a couple of seconds before he gets killed. The commentators also bring up how Sephiroth has super armor on his smash attacks with one wing, but I think I saw maybe one or two smash attacks from ned the whole set, and none of them connected. Sephiroth's smash attacks are not really that good and not designed to take advantage of super armor.
@@Arunnejiro Absolutely agree on this. One wing is overhyped and the reason being is that even though Sephiroth gains a bit more power and speed, he still have the same core problems. I think what you said is correct, Sephiroth CANNOT whiff which is very odd. If you take super heavyweights like bowser or Krool they do have some sort of way to punish the oponent. Sephiroth is the only character in the game where you can dance around him, poke his shield and do anything you want. You force the Seph player to take his distance to start with neutral again.
Also regarding the super armor, yes, it feels his design is lackluster or lazy and some things on his kit makes not sense at all. Super armor at this point is a gimmick and the initial frames of super armor are not even that great which means they can hit you before the super armor frames activates and you'll die anyways. If Seph super Amor was like Little Mac then it would be better I guess. From all of his smash attacks I think the most useful one in my opinion is the up smash. Great anti air. Down smash is super readable and people expect it because of the shield break and F smash is so laggy that is not worth it. I like how winged seph f. smash is weaker than Pyra's and iPyra does not need tipper
when light rolled the sleeves up game 4
camp all day jump a. There is a reason why game 5 was stomp is because most fox players dont have the patience to wait on campers. but on game 5 feel free to make this as painful as you like np.
I am never doing that ever again! 1:38
Yay!
unrelated but i thought there would be 30 lives
Sephiroth is lowkey impossible to ledgetrap
it is not imposible. Anyone with counter xan challenge him and if you know he is going to charge the octalash to go back to the stage you can gimp him out the same way you gimp fox or falco and you just come bsck to the stage asuming your charscter has a gokd recovery
Ned is baaaaaddd... as in good 😄🔥
Lightすっきやわ
AHH EUGH FIYAAAAA MISHON COMPREE
Fucking Light, man. Such a sick player, maining one of the most underused characters in Ultimate. Always so hype 😍
Good shit light 💯
Damn, Ned choked at the end. I wanted him to take the W but he cracked.
Nah. Ned has good mental. Light just outplayed him.
Game 2 with the Dairith
Logic look like he play clarinet
Why is he just dash dancing
painful matchup
True. However, Ned took him to game 5. 👌🏽
Ned is broken
Ned always jumps from the ledge, everytime... surprised Ned doesn't realize this, Light could have easily just ran under him and upsmash only happened once, but back air deaths also works
Moist Light... those two words don't belong together.
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No one is even close to them
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I hate how ned camps under the platform so much, I'm having marth flashbags on meele
Remember the time Nairo beat light in bracket using ganondorf? That was awesome.
Shouldn't have run it back.
俺の求めているセフィロス
So many times Ned just jumps for no reason.
Empty hopping is very good in ultimate
@@cashinowt No shit. I obviously meant in times he could have actually countered.
@@marksaenz3836 that last bit is very subjective
@@cashinowt Hence what a comment section is for? Lol Einstein over here.
3 stock
C'mon Light, it's not that bad. Keep your mask on!
Better breathing.
Mask can get annoying
The thing that makes Light so hard to fight is that he plays Fox