S*x Coach Brings Millionaire Playboy To 2v1 Destiny. It Completely Backfires.

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  • Destiny gets ambushed in a 2v1 debate by s*x coach Jennelle who brings in her famous millionaire playboy friend Tony Toutouni but it doesn't go according to plan after Tony chooses to remain objective and she quits the debate hosted by Playing With Fire.
    Date: 25 August, 2023
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  • @destiny
    @destiny  Рік тому +111

    1st debate w/ Jennelle ►ua-cam.com/video/kkuYl_9G5p8/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
    2nd debate w/ Jennelle►ua-cam.com/video/yLQgXW1qGwE/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

    • @kaganluvstacos
      @kaganluvstacos Рік тому +55

      FINALLY, you TAGGED HER LMAO

    • @0GieLongshank
      @0GieLongshank Рік тому +19

      She'll find a way to complain about being tagged, guaranteed 😂

    • @TraXXXtar
      @TraXXXtar Рік тому +2

      hijacking this comment to say if you're wondering whether watching this is worth even if you havent heard of these other 2, it is defs worth it. for the laughs at least, not so much for any wisdom or knowledge

    • @aSSGoblin1488
      @aSSGoblin1488 Рік тому +1

      lol she has been tagged

    • @hell-sweet-hell
      @hell-sweet-hell Рік тому

      We fear this tag down here. We feel it’ll make our job too easy

  • @mburke364
    @mburke364 Рік тому +2029

    Came in expecting Tony to be this weird red pill character. He ended up just being an innocent normie who doesn't judge anyone's lifestyle choices. Cool dude.

    • @AnorexicPandas
      @AnorexicPandas Рік тому +59

      Ikr, what a chill guy

    • @MuscleboundKage
      @MuscleboundKage Рік тому +214

      I knew he was a Chad when he said, "what's the red pill?" 😂

    • @adox8574
      @adox8574 Рік тому +26

      He actually kind of annoyed me. Not so much because of his opinions, but his approach. Being a normie doesn’t mean you don’t have opinions or views on things. This guy came off to me like he was avoiding conflict and just trying to get along by playing the middle-of-the-road kind of guy and finding comprimises, which isn’t the point of a debate. But I don’t think this guy had any intention of debating. The guy just sounded like a Grandpa trying to mediate a fight between too teenagers. To be fair though some of the behaviors were close to teens.
      But anyways I consider myself solidly on the right, but I can see elements of truth in some of the things people on the left say. In other words, you can have good conversation and have a more nuanced view without being a cuck.

    • @Dewny1651
      @Dewny1651 Рік тому +93

      @@adox8574it’s called neutrality

    • @mcbltgaming3694
      @mcbltgaming3694 Рік тому

      ​@adox8574 did you miss the whole point where he gave his opinion on destiny being gay and sucking d?

  • @wolfganghumboldt4830
    @wolfganghumboldt4830 Рік тому +740

    A sex coach that doesn't believe in bisexuals. That's crazy.

    • @AVspectre
      @AVspectre Рік тому +70

      Only male bisexuals, it seems. 🙄
      So often sex is reduced to penetration only. Guys can have sex together without it being anal. Women can have sex with each other without requiring penetration. Penetration can be a huge part for many people but it’s not everything. Yet it seems to be the part that throws off so many people who seem to struggle with considering same-sex relationships valid.

    • @MeinMummyDust
      @MeinMummyDust Рік тому

      I know! As a bisexual man I literally spit out my drink. We’re here, we’re queer and we also eat pussy.

    • @karithewarlock
      @karithewarlock Рік тому +28

      @@AVspectre”sex is often reduced to penetration” is so spot on! ive never been with a man but ive slept with plenty of women. a lot of people still believe im a virgin because ive never been penetrated by a dude.

    • @chenseler85
      @chenseler85 Рік тому +8

      @@karithewarlockditto. And people expect us to qualify it by saying a “well technically” or some shit like that. While I’ve had more sexual partners than them. Lol.

    • @JohnSmith-yd5wq
      @JohnSmith-yd5wq Рік тому

      ​@@karithewarlockmany gay men don't even have anal sex or like it.

  • @insanedvo
    @insanedvo Рік тому +2289

    As much as a dumpster fire as this “debate” was, it was really sweet when Tony asked Destiny if he could play fortnite with his son since his kid is a huge gamer.

    • @TheWinterfox10
      @TheWinterfox10 Рік тому +142

      That really warmed my heart too!

    • @reignmack
      @reignmack Рік тому +37

      wholesome

    • @stepfaniehawkins205
      @stepfaniehawkins205 Рік тому

      It's always good to see a dad thinking about his kid...... I just hope he's giving his kid good advice on relationships lol you got to start early! I started telling my son when he was 7 "don't you dare follow your dad into working your life away in that power plant. Get yourself out of this shit hole small town, do not stopp and knock up some local halfwit, before getting your exit key out of here and onto a better life"
      I told my son everyday that small-town girls are shiftee, they will get pregnant on the sly, to land them the best man out of the bunch.
      I'm so proud of my son he stayed a virgin until he was eighteen, he only lost his virginity because he was getting shipped off overseas to England with the Air Force. I guess he figured he'd better get that out of the way before he went out to serve the country
      Parents are so afraid to hurt their kids fragile little feelings. That's because parents these days are raising perpetual children.
      I on the other hand was raising small people to be fully functioning members of society. I straight up told my children almost on the daily that if they fcked around, and ruined their lives, I would be greatly and hugely disappointed in them!
      I made them aware from a young age that they are directly responsible for their own lives, and the outcome of said lives.
      They knew if they failed, that was squarely on their own shoulders and no one else's.
      I was a parent.... a real parent. I was such a good parent a couple of my kids barely speak to me.... They say I wasn't their friend enough lolol that kind of nonsense talk only comes out of the mouths of daughters!
      I told those girls, "I'm your mom my job is to parent you not to be your friend. Friends are what you got at school at home you got a mom....... F*king deal with it, and if you don't like how I'm parenting you...... feel free to grow up, get married have a baby and parent the crap out of that child, in whatever way you think you can do it better than I did. And I hope you do, because like all parents I don't know what the hell I'm doing. "
      Straightforward tough-love no-nonsense kind of parenting...... It'll make your kid successful..... but they might hate you a little bit in the long run.
      But that's okay lol we moms are the most "hated and blamed for everything" person's on the face of the planet.
      I mean I haven't looked at the Stats lately, but I'm pretty sure that moms are still blamed for everything-even at a higher rate than the "evil white man" is lolol

    • @HazLight4426
      @HazLight4426 Рік тому +8

      Timestamp please?

    • @totallynoteko9694
      @totallynoteko9694 Рік тому +6

      @@stepfaniehawkins205 you belittled your son's father for his whole life and tried to stop him from having relationships with other women for 18 years. and he joined the military straight out of high school? i'm not sure that's all that much better than being a power plant operator. hope your relationship with your kids is better than i think it is.

  • @leguman3780
    @leguman3780 Рік тому +533

    The biggest red flag here (as Tony points out) is that she markets herself as some flavour of therapist and yet exhibits zero compassion, is super judgmental, resorts to petty attacks, pivots constantly, outright makes shit up, etc… You could argue that she’s not like this with actual clients, however, her online presence is also part of how she markets herself. Not a good look. In online conversations or debates, actual therapists are far more measured, objective and never resort to ad hominems…

    • @TaylorGrinerOneal
      @TaylorGrinerOneal Рік тому

      The biggest red flag here is that she’s incompetent, internally misogynistic, and generally annoying.

    • @LizNeptune
      @LizNeptune Рік тому +25

      Don’t forget the homophobia!

    • @ImpulsiveLimbo
      @ImpulsiveLimbo Рік тому +4

      Reminded me of my ex almost Mother in law. She would cycle through different unbiased fair therapist until she would find one that was unprofessional enough she could basically pay them to tell her she is never wrong and other people are the issue. It's crazy there are a few PhD mental health professionals that will say "Fuck the work/training I'm just doing what the patient wants for $$$".
      This woman seems like the type to say whatever nonsense for her patients to pay her

    • @18aplateindoors
      @18aplateindoors Рік тому +5

      Onlyfans coming soon.. Thisnis all just a build up for her to drop a onlyfans 😂 i 100% believe that

    • @bigtats76
      @bigtats76 Рік тому +10

      A sex therapist that cant say penis and vagina. She said eggplant at one point

  • @maxheadroom1207
    @maxheadroom1207 Рік тому +422

    Tony is the embodiment of a regular not online person. It was refreshing to have someone like him to show a perspective of what someone who has no interest in these topics/debates (i.e. a normal person) thinks of all this.

    • @JENKEN425
      @JENKEN425 2 місяці тому

      tony needs to let others talk.

  • @caledonk
    @caledonk Рік тому +2450

    Im so happy Janelle is technologically illiterate or else she would be an actual orbiter and all our brains would melt

    • @lucentdiagram41
      @lucentdiagram41 Рік тому +20

      True

    • @DorkoDoes
      @DorkoDoes Рік тому +32

      😅 really dodged that bullet

    • @dftknight
      @dftknight Рік тому +14

      She's nicer to look at than most orbiters tbh.

    • @jamesnite2157
      @jamesnite2157 Рік тому +151

      She looks like mumbo jumbo from banjo kazooie

    • @benblarney
      @benblarney Рік тому +13

      ​@@jamesnite2157😂😂😂 fire comment

  • @dirtgames13
    @dirtgames13 Рік тому +1185

    Jannelle expecting and trying to bait backup while Tony just continues to be an aggressively reasonable person is peak comedy

    • @MeinMummyDust
      @MeinMummyDust Рік тому +41

      Tony is real af

    • @nathangraves
      @nathangraves Рік тому +56

      Aggresively reasonable is the perfect way to describe how he was here kek

    • @DavidJones-ot8qu
      @DavidJones-ot8qu Рік тому +6

      @@MeinMummyDustthis is not the word id use to describe him. he’s just nervous about having a controversial opinion and didn’t want to be attacked; he seemed like a fence sitter that was terrified of actually giving an opinion that wasn’t brand friendly

    • @willenhall12345
      @willenhall12345 Рік тому +17

      @@DavidJones-ot8qu Nah, he does just seem like a very reasonable person, he doesn't seem like the type of person that would be afraid to speak his mind at all, he actually just seems like a crazy chill ass viber.

    • @GritWithKai
      @GritWithKai Рік тому +5

      That's not even the worst part, she expected Tony to simp for her and anyone could see that. The way she went at the end you have a daughter towards Tony expecting him to defend her view just because she's also a woman funniest shit I have ever seen. Not to forget shes a huge ass clout chaser as soon as she thought she wasn't getting tagged in the video she was talking about it not being worth her time if she wasn't gonna grow her platform to promote her scam business. I'm so glad Tony wasn't having any of it, little disappointed he's friends with someone as scummy as that but it is what it is I guess....

  • @foxhounde
    @foxhounde Рік тому +456

    The funniest thing about this debate is the fact that she legit thinks Destiny teaches his fan base anything about gaming.

    • @openmike4559
      @openmike4559 Рік тому +9

      😂

    • @bertthompson4748
      @bertthompson4748 Рік тому

      He taught me only degenerate scum play league.

    • @trey3284
      @trey3284 Рік тому +65

      im bronze in league thanks to Destiny's teaching

    • @ShowMeYoBoob
      @ShowMeYoBoob Рік тому

      @@trey3284 lol seriously though does Destiny play league?

    • @ivanamicimici
      @ivanamicimici Рік тому +8

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 WE ARE ALL DYING IN HERE

  • @vladi1Z
    @vladi1Z Рік тому +251

    Imagine having her as a therapist. People need their money back.

    • @NorthAyase
      @NorthAyase Рік тому +10

      I'm convinced a significant amount of therapist are insane, he has ran into a couple and I've heard of others elsewhere.

    • @drewrobitaille7989
      @drewrobitaille7989 Рік тому +11

      Wdym? She's helped 100s of 1000s of couples. 😂

    • @Ksgr867
      @Ksgr867 11 місяців тому

      @@drewrobitaille7989which is fine. But she's online giving sex advice like her son and his friends won't see this and judge her.

    • @Ksgr867
      @Ksgr867 11 місяців тому +2

      @@drewrobitaille7989if she was so concerned about promiscuity she would be a private sex therapist. Not broadcasting it embarrassing her son

  • @slade867
    @slade867 Рік тому +72

    It takes a lot of balls to be brought on by your friend and then utterly destroy them like that on camera and refuse to just say you think she's right.

    • @destiny33332
      @destiny33332 11 місяців тому

      she’s deserved it even if he is her friend who would agree with that

    • @John.T.
      @John.T. 11 місяців тому

      Wtf it take honesty and that’s it.
      Balls have nothing to do with it…
      If your friend is wrong; your friend is wrong.

    • @bul166
      @bul166 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@John.T.Yeah? In certain situations honesty takes a lot of balls. Trying to reduce anything down to a single attribute based on limited perspective is vapid, naive oversimplification.

    • @John.T.
      @John.T. 11 місяців тому

      @@bul166
      The initial comment specified the parameters:
      A friend being honest with a friend.
      ☝️What takes balls here?

    • @emis5478
      @emis5478 6 місяців тому

      ​@@John.T.
      Having the courage to do so ?
      Lots of people are not comfortable confronting their friends

  • @QTEEP
    @QTEEP Рік тому +845

    If she actually knew anything about Destiny she would know that there is actually zero to learn from him about gaming.

    • @jnegijnewirgjnbi
      @jnegijnewirgjnbi Рік тому +81

      We are helping him when he has questions, lol

    • @pepelechad536
      @pepelechad536 Рік тому +43

      He’s getting old, he can’t keep up with games anymore 😢

    • @josephpa05
      @josephpa05 Рік тому +4

      Or cooking

    • @tgdelta2455
      @tgdelta2455 Рік тому +3

      @@pepelechad536 same tho, maybe thats why i like watching him, haha!

    • @zoom2376
      @zoom2376 Рік тому +27

      She would also not say he is a white man since we all know Destiny is a girls name

  • @Bv3h
    @Bv3h Рік тому +658

    Saved thousands of marriages but couldn’t save her own

  • @sarinat3101
    @sarinat3101 Рік тому +395

    She literally seethes over every single throwaway joke Destiny makes; it's actually hilarious. She's such perfect lolcow material.

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv Рік тому +18

      lolcow is so right
      imagine the mental deterioration we could witness

    • @ivanamicimici
      @ivanamicimici Рік тому +1

      LITERALLY! 😅

    • @chrismills7703
      @chrismills7703 Рік тому +6

      She literally called her babysitter to prove to destiny how she’s not full time, you can’t make this shit up

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv Рік тому +5

      @@chrismills7703 best part was when she asked "your *son* son?"

    • @beane6426
      @beane6426 Рік тому +5

      @@ts4gvI still don’t get what that was supposed to mean. It was such a weird phrasing.

  • @Yang-ob4lk
    @Yang-ob4lk Рік тому +64

    Damn, I didn't expect Tony to be such a wholesome person. The anti-Tate

    • @Astrussy
      @Astrussy 11 місяців тому +8

      Him butting in and talking to janelle like she’s a child he is disappointed in had my dying

  • @mrman-yj3bn
    @mrman-yj3bn Рік тому +73

    I felt really bad for Tony. We have all had a friend call us in for backup just for us to realise they they are 100% the one in the wrong.

  • @delorne2776
    @delorne2776 Рік тому +270

    Jennelle > Brings up her child unprompted multiple times.
    Also Jennelle > Gets upset that her child is being discussed.

    • @faeiger9215
      @faeiger9215 Рік тому +1

      To be fair a mother can discuss her own child and be weirddd out by others doing it.
      Same way a woman can post her own nudes on Twitter but it’s illegal if someone else does it without her permission

    • @mopedgubbe1059
      @mopedgubbe1059 Рік тому +8

      ​​@@faeiger9215yeah it's about consent. Like a woman can have had sex, and would never want to have sex with you. I'm sure this is a very common occurrence!
      The mom being mad when others talk about their kids is pretty stupid though.

    • @Localpref416
      @Localpref416 Рік тому +14

      ​​@@faeiger9215it's more like sending someone you're nudes, then get mad if they comment on them. Or if you post them publicly and get mad that people comment on them publicly.
      What weird/disingenuous analogy

    • @delorne2776
      @delorne2776 Рік тому +13

      @@faeiger9215 Stop. You don't bring up something in a discussion, let alone a debate, let alone a heated one - and get mad/shocked/offended when the other party discusses it. She put it on the table herself. And he didn't even say or ask anything offensive about it.

    • @Hemlocker
      @Hemlocker Рік тому +3

      @@faeiger9215 It's not even remotely like that

  • @ryanxwonbin7984
    @ryanxwonbin7984 Рік тому +1137

    Redpill woman brings up someone's child, complains her child was brought up. Redpill woman complains about white men ganging up on her. Redpill woman says she is being disrespected while using micro-penis insults. Absolutely delusional.

    • @hunkydory8437
      @hunkydory8437 Рік тому

      Redpill women act just like the very same “modern women” they pass judgment on, given the right circumstances

    • @HP-sq2fp
      @HP-sq2fp Рік тому +74

      Being a complete hypocrite is part of the job description of being a redpill woman. Same way they say women should be housewives, let their husbands lead, and shut up despite working lucrative careers, not being married, and talking a lot

    • @amagicallaura
      @amagicallaura Рік тому

      lmao yeah, redpill women are suddenly super upset about misogyny as soon as a man makes them look bad...

    • @__keys
      @__keys Рік тому

      SHE'S REDPILL...?????

    • @robbiedontmiss
      @robbiedontmiss Рік тому +4

      She got Brittany Simon energy 😂

  • @Rebel8MAC
    @Rebel8MAC Рік тому +145

    Janelle: "don't accuse me of bringing Tony to simp or blindly agree with me"
    -----*30 minutes later*----
    Janelle: "Destiny is laughing at me and the fact that you're not even doing anything and you have a daughter and ex-wife is sad to me"
    *walks out*
    😂😂😂😂😂

    • @boomynote
      @boomynote Рік тому +1

      You can’t make this shi up

  • @Maestroxxx1
    @Maestroxxx1 Рік тому +39

    It was like watching someone set themselves on fire...then when you thought it could not get any worse, she travels back in time to pour gasoline on it. Truly horrifying.

  • @TrebleSum
    @TrebleSum Рік тому +18

    Watching Jennelle flip from stating she's a right wing conservative, with red pill talking points, to "I'm not going to sit here as a woman, with white men from the patriarchy..." made me giggle out loud & re affirmed everything I had already thought about her from her previous appearances; she's a chameleon clout chaser.

  • @onetrickekkowr
    @onetrickekkowr Рік тому +157

    The title is misleading. This is NOT 2v1. This is 1v1.
    Jenelle VS herself.

  • @KellyfromMemphis
    @KellyfromMemphis Рік тому +654

    She’s a “conservative” but cries victim about race and gender from the start?! 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @funicon3689
      @funicon3689 Рік тому +55

      sounds about right

    • @Justin-fb9ir
      @Justin-fb9ir Рік тому +16

      That’s kinda their thing

    • @jacobfromallstate4963
      @jacobfromallstate4963 Рік тому +8

      ​@@Justin-fb9irnot so much tbh, and I'm on the left.

    • @Behonkcé
      @Behonkcé Рік тому +4

      Is it an American thing to brand everyone not left as Conservative? Or "trad" ?

    • @jem1is1the1man
      @jem1is1the1man Рік тому

      The cringiest part of the whole thing

  • @JustAReminder
    @JustAReminder Рік тому +701

    Vaguely knowing who Tony was, I would’ve never thought he would’ve won this debate, but he did. He won all of our hearts.

    • @thatburneydude
      @thatburneydude Рік тому +31

      Same, I used to keep up with tony when he was best friends with Dan, no clue what they fell out about but big props to him for growing on his own

    • @tramarthomas6105
      @tramarthomas6105 Рік тому +4

      ​@@thatburneydudedestiny's Dan?

    • @Imperial_Squid
      @Imperial_Squid Рік тому +32

      20 minutes in and I love this guy already, she brought him in as backup and he's just being super neutral and 100% reasonable throughout everything 😂😂

    • @troybaker3556
      @troybaker3556 Рік тому +5

      ​@@tramarthomas6105Dan bilzerian

    • @theoofsweden
      @theoofsweden Рік тому +3

      tony has always been chill

  • @loverofbigdookies
    @loverofbigdookies Рік тому +44

    tony made me laugh harder than i have in a while. if he and destiny became besties it would fucking be amazing content

  • @AegonIV
    @AegonIV Рік тому +40

    On behalf of someone who enjoys this type of content, thank you Janelle for being so ambitious.

  • @MergatroidS
    @MergatroidS Рік тому +847

    Shoutout to Tony, bro. Dude got dragged into some shit that he clearly was not properly briefed on and obliterated Janelle's whole existence by just being there and asking questions to get caught up.

    • @LunaTulpa
      @LunaTulpa Рік тому +89

      he's definitely a bit more old school, but definitely was super good about sticking to being honest, even with Shiva screeching next to him

    • @Rebel8MAC
      @Rebel8MAC Рік тому +19

      Fr i wouldnt even care about tony but since he had that janelle in person and stood his ground was commendable

    • @TonyCox1351
      @TonyCox1351 Рік тому +19

      I feel like in any other scenario Tony would be top tier cringe. I mean old dude with bleached hair bragging about his IG followers? But with Janelle on there he seemed like a normal guy lol

    • @MergatroidS
      @MergatroidS Рік тому +30

      @@TonyCox1351 Yeah, maybe. I imagine anyone being introduced as the "Super Dan Bilzerian" or whatever probably has some out there views. But he definitely came into this conversation being non-judgmental and fully objective before anything else, and I appreciate that.

    • @tcbobb.8782
      @tcbobb.8782 Рік тому +1

      I think she thought this was gunna go WAYYY differently lmao she seemed so upset anytime he asked any question

  • @brotheris33
    @brotheris33 Рік тому +90

    The funniest moment in the vid is when Tony asked about the redpill. The whole movement is based on turning every dude into a Tony, and the dude who the epitome of it doesn’t know Wtf it is 😂😂😂. It really goes to show that the whole movement is BS.

    • @WPC799
      @WPC799 Рік тому +13

      If the redpill was truly turning people into tonys id sign up immediately. What a gigachad

  • @tinyticktack4442
    @tinyticktack4442 Рік тому +435

    ALEX UNDERAPPRECIATED FOR GETTING THESE CHARACTERS TOGETHER

    • @BrendanishLeo
      @BrendanishLeo Рік тому +23

      Alex is unironically one of the best people destiny's met in recent years.
      He's pretty fun, can disagree respectfully, and helps meet others.

    • @adamyooz
      @adamyooz Рік тому

      @@BrendanishLeoHe’s one of the few people that’s more interested in what somebody means than the semantics

    • @capcaptainmycaptain4771
      @capcaptainmycaptain4771 Рік тому +9

      I did a total 180 on Alex. I saw him in one debate and he seemed ultra condescending but every interaction since, he's been cool.

    • @gregre99
      @gregre99 Рік тому

      Best panel host

    • @DavidJones-ot8qu
      @DavidJones-ot8qu Рік тому

      @@capcaptainmycaptain4771he’s dumb but alright

  • @notsarthakkumar
    @notsarthakkumar Рік тому +48

    Jannelle can never loose a debate to a white person of any gender , a man of any race . She is the most identity politics conservative .

  • @chrismills7703
    @chrismills7703 Рік тому +21

    I made it 40 minutes in but I can’t handle it. Between the transparent clout-sharking, straight lying about things she said, grandstanding, and never answering questions… This woman is the most aggravating person destinys ever talked to.

  • @sociallytoxic4531
    @sociallytoxic4531 Рік тому +153

    Janelle non stop personally attacks Destiny
    Also Janelle: all he does is put people down

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 Рік тому +1

      To be fair to her, Destiny wasn't innocent as well, as he's also being bad faith and uncharitable in his takes of her points, taking part in the immature takes and irritating Janelle. Probably there's been beef between Janelle and Destiny since that other debate Alex was in and some things where said there that triggered Destiny.

    • @thatboi134
      @thatboi134 Рік тому +3

      ⁠​⁠@@danielnelson3136Still to be fair, she’s had multiple times to calm down and not personally attack Destiny, but she continues to throughout the debate. Not only that, she’s upset at Destiny for thinking that her business is a scam, but then proceeds to explain why it isn’t in the most confusing way, even confusing the person she brought on. In general it just seems like she doesn’t care to defend her character or her business, but instead just attack Destiny’s character, which isn’t a good look since she’s the one that’s upset with Destiny for thinking her business is a scam.

    • @Reos-Domain
      @Reos-Domain 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@danielnelson3136that isn't really sound. Most people would do that if the person they are debating wouldn't have one single objective point. To try to hold someone to that standard when it's not all reciprocated is just bad faith in of itself realistically. As destiny has done this before with others, he will try to be respectful to other debaters, they refuse to give a coherent point, and personally attack him. So instead of just sitting there he plays along with jabs back.

    • @danielnelson3136
      @danielnelson3136 11 місяців тому

      @@Reos-Domain I still will try to be good faith, charitable, and respectful even if Destiny is making snarky comments and character assassinating me. The reasoning why is that metaphysically, and epistemically, to me arguments are hyper codependent onto the arguer and debater who starts and maintains debating and arguing. Arguments need two arguers interlocked into conflict to justify it's existence in the minds of the arguer and followers of those arguers, creating a deep implicit need for that argument's survival. In fact many appeals and fallacies towards ethos, pathos and logos are just that, a mechanism for how an argument itself survives in other minds. Furthermore, due to the murky distinctions between the arguer/argument, the debater/debate, and the faulty assumptions that arguments themselves are tools of truth finding, truth seeking, and truth championing, is disingenuous because the majority of those arguments couldn't exist without bewitching the arguer making that argument, as if the argument itself is like a parasite ghost that infects it's host to parrot and be it's mouth piece to spread and infect and convert as many minds to it's worldviews as possible, which is why sometimes Destiny, this woman, and many other streamers that argue argue passionately and are sometimes emotionally triggered and defensive, because attacking an argument point is akin to attacking the arguer, it's not a bug but a feature of those whole digital environment we're in, where big tech companies and others capitalize and perversely incentivize bad faith communications because it's appealing to our egoic minds rather than to actual truth.
      I base my commentary on my understanding of developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development and value systems(by Don Beck), cognitive biases and moral development, personality types and traits(by Myers Briggs personality modal and Big Five personality traits modal), 9 stages of ego development(by Jane Loevinger), Architypes and shadow work(by Carl Jung), states of being/becoming and consciousness, Integral Theory and other lines of development in life and societal domains(by Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs indoctrinated by family upbringing, culture, mainstream/alternative media, TV, radio, news outlets, social media platforms, community and peer pressures, group think, manufactured consent, and so on that influences self biases and preferences, which creates an internal feedback loop that supports the externalities that influence your intrinsic motivations. I suggest you check out those sources and understand them yourself before replying back, have a good day!

    • @AnD1262
      @AnD1262 10 місяців тому

      @@danielnelson3136 wow look at you grandstanding, you are taking fault with Destiny from a viewpoint of attacking Destiny you can't do that, not without standing by points anyways... for instance how would Don Beck, Myers Briggs, Jane Loevinger, Carl Jung and Ken Wilbur help you prove that Destiny has a micro penis only using the information that he thinks your (hypothetical) sex coach job is a scam? Also, if I put you in Destiny's shoes how would you answer a person who can't remember what their major argument with you was, got their rich friend on to "debate" you and used an hour to say that their time is precious you are wrong (about who knows what) and to argue you have a micro penis?

  • @note4note804
    @note4note804 Рік тому +194

    Tony had the energy of a guy whose girlfriend demanded he defend her honor and is trying his best to survive the encounter.

    • @Hemlocker
      @Hemlocker Рік тому +36

      He had a bit more integrity than most guys in that situation, I think

    • @lorenzomizushal3980
      @lorenzomizushal3980 Рік тому

      but he clearly knows his girlfriend was the one who started it

  • @Jinkaza1882
    @Jinkaza1882 Рік тому +174

    Felt like an attempt at an ambush then Tony said, "I don't know why I am here." and the lady spiraled out into nothing. Wonderful too see.

    • @etabmc
      @etabmc Рік тому +23

      Yea it’s crazy because she set this up saying that tony wanted to debate destiny for his disagreements but almost immediately you can tell it’s all a ploy.

    • @Jinkaza1882
      @Jinkaza1882 Рік тому +5

      She was there the whole time. This is wild.

    • @overthinkink
      @overthinkink Рік тому +1

      It was very satisfying to watch. Tony seems like a normal rational guy.

  • @The0rnate
    @The0rnate Рік тому +14

    Felt so bad for Tony trying to translate such a wild convo. “Because I’m a woman” literally just needs to be replaced with “Because I’m immature” and it’s absolutely correct. She’s reinforced to me that growing old != maturing. Reinforces that I want to build a life with a Woman, not a Girl.
    One of the funniest Destiny videos I’ve caught in a minute. Definitely not what I want to see as the bread and butter if the channel but a gem for sure.

  • @chrishydahl4580
    @chrishydahl4580 Рік тому +17

    Did she actually claim to have written two books in one day? 🤣

  • @hellshakeyano7686
    @hellshakeyano7686 Рік тому +272

    Tony passes all sorts of vibe checks, he seems like such an honest everyman, his live and let live attitude is very positive.

    • @WPC799
      @WPC799 Рік тому +30

      Bro was the best part of the video lol, didn’t care at all about the debate. “Pussy?? Elaborate!”

    • @nastybandit322
      @nastybandit322 Рік тому +22

      He is like the meme of giggachad not knowing what a podcast is

    • @chenseler85
      @chenseler85 Рік тому +8

      Yeah he was cool. Got a little irritated with him trying to moderate at times, but I tried to chalk it up to the assumption that he doesn’t engage in a lot of online debates.

  • @eeyun5279
    @eeyun5279 Рік тому +118

    “You don’t have a very high opinion of me as a woman”
    “No I don’t have a very high opinion of you as a person”
    Lmao…

    • @kirknichols178
      @kirknichols178 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, if she didn’t understand that one she’s just a lost cause at that point. Someone should put a ding on her that says “do not engage in any form of conversation. I will lie and deceive you”.

  • @giacoyt4147
    @giacoyt4147 Рік тому +20

    Poor tony having to realize in real time that his friend is nuts 😂

  • @Aru_Digital_Art
    @Aru_Digital_Art Рік тому +20

    Tony is so sweet and wholesome and innocent, how he got mixed up with someone as toxic as Jennelle I have no clue.

    • @joegibbskins
      @joegibbskins Рік тому

      Tony is a cool normie, dude; but he is also extremely horny and Jennelle is attractive. You don’t exactly need to split the atom to see why he is mixed up with her

    • @bambbambboyguy123
      @bambbambboyguy123 2 місяці тому

      They aren’t together

  • @zhardy323
    @zhardy323 Рік тому +124

    i'm getting secondhand embarrassment cause tony is so reasonable. Jennelle really should have prewatched this debate

  • @jonathanhenderson9422
    @jonathanhenderson9422 Рік тому +98

    Never heard of Tony T. before this, but dude seems super fair and reasonable. He also has the superhuman ability (I only call it that because of how sadly rare it is) to not project his personal, subjective opinions/values onto everyone else like all redpillers and Jennelle does. His response to learning about Destiny being in an open relationship is how an actual secure, reasonable human being would/should react: "hey, that lifestyle's not for me, but if that works for you then great." It's also clear how he came to realize how irrational she is.

    • @JustMark87
      @JustMark87 Рік тому +21

      His first response to hearing about Destiny's open relationship was stating a positive stereotype, which is pretty rare to hear from anyone in general but was especially surprising here he said "Oh i hear people in open relationships have strong marriages" which was kind of cute of him to say, instead of any number of derogatory statements he could have made.

    • @DavidJones-ot8qu
      @DavidJones-ot8qu Рік тому +1

      @@JustMark87then the first question he asks was whether or not destiny is a cuck lmao

    • @Sach966
      @Sach966 Рік тому +10

      ​@@JustMark87 He basically said "I wouldn't be comfortable with that, but if that works for you then I'm happy for you," which is based as fuck. He ended up being what Jennelle pretends to be - kind, sex positive and non-judgmental.

    • @Sach966
      @Sach966 Рік тому +6

      @@DavidJones-ot8qu Of all the guys to call Destiny a cuck, I think he's the first one to actually acknowledge that Destiny sleeps around too.
      It kinda sounded like he was mixing up open relationships with swingers, and clearly didn't understand all of the things being talked about. Which made his open-mindedness extra sweet.

  • @Diego-de6dq
    @Diego-de6dq Рік тому +155

    She's so evidently delusional that nobody in a live format could reasonably look good agreeing with her, and I'm loving every second 😂

    • @boosterkidrg
      @boosterkidrg Рік тому +3

      So she is a grifter after all? I always knew this woman was just an opportunist

    • @GritWithKai
      @GritWithKai 9 місяців тому

      must be a side effect of being fed till 7 years old, probably runs in the family

  • @treshields1934
    @treshields1934 Рік тому +16

    Tony is the wholesome motivational uncle I wish I had lmao. He’s such a breath of fresh air.

  • @SoftChroma
    @SoftChroma Рік тому +12

    Jennelle is making it really hard for herself. She’s prone to defensiveness, but the thing that got to me the most was her using the word “loose walls.” Also said “he has a micro-penis” “it looks like he likes to get pegged”
    Then she has the audacity to say Destiny is saying derogatory things about HER business. It’s immature and just embarrassing.

  • @GO-GO_SO-SO
    @GO-GO_SO-SO Рік тому +147

    She says she is red pill/Conservative leaning, but some of the things she was saying goes completely against those ideals to the point that if she said that to people on her side, they would roast her, boot her, etc. Could you imagine her telling Fresh and Fit they don't know about a particular topic about women because they are both men and that they should just be quiet and listen to her?

    • @MeinMummyDust
      @MeinMummyDust Рік тому +6

      She was a feminist for this debate

    • @nicklasveva
      @nicklasveva Рік тому +3

      She's a woman. What do you expect? Rationality?

    • @johnbrooks756
      @johnbrooks756 Рік тому +8

      Could you imagine listening to fresh and fit for advice about anything?

    • @GO-GO_SO-SO
      @GO-GO_SO-SO Рік тому +18

      @@johnbrooks756 Yeah, I actually could. For example, if I wanted to know how to get my channel demonetized I could imagine they can give me a few pointers.

    • @GO-GO_SO-SO
      @GO-GO_SO-SO Рік тому +5

      @@nicklasveva You have a very rational and masculine point, but I wasn't expecting rationality from her. A very, very small percentage was due to her being a woman, but most of it was because she's red pill.

  • @Skratch63
    @Skratch63 Рік тому +119

    The fact that she's literally constantly bringing up handicaps of race and gender and this and that is un freaking real. She can say quite literally anything she wants but if there is anything brought against her she's using her non-factoring differences to shield herself from any kind of criticism

    • @RolaiEckolo
      @RolaiEckolo Рік тому

      And they used to shit on libs for identity politics but they use it as much as they need. Beliefs are tools to these people, not genuinely held at all.

    • @jayjonah83
      @jayjonah83 Рік тому +4

      As someone that actively tries to be empathetic to both race and gender, that shit got old hella fast. Every other sentence was about how "3 white males, wait you're not white, are attacking a single mom" blah blah. Are they handing out sympathy points somewhere

    • @Skratch63
      @Skratch63 Рік тому +2

      @@jayjonah83 right. And the irony of how conservative she is with most of her thoughts.

    • @seanmatthewking
      @seanmatthewking Рік тому +2

      It's purely a defense mechanism. She isn't woke except when she thinks it will get her sympathy points. So many red flags suggesting she's a con artist

    • @addorsubtract650
      @addorsubtract650 11 місяців тому

      She isn't really conservative in case u still haven't figured it out. She's just an opportunistic scammer. @@Skratch63

  • @snarp408
    @snarp408 Рік тому +81

    Janelle came off so poorly. She constantly attacked Destiny and called him names while attacking his character, while crying theyre doing the same thing to her. What world does this woman live in? 😂

    • @Rith9789
      @Rith9789 11 місяців тому +1

      A Matriarchy.

    • @SBreezee
      @SBreezee 11 місяців тому

      That's that redpill in her

  • @DomCoreLeon
    @DomCoreLeon Рік тому +7

    Her phone died right after she says "i bid you a farewell" ???
    I think she realized Tony was against her and she wanted to be closer for manipulation because someone is way less likely to disagree or be confrontational if youre in front of them.

  • @lillgp
    @lillgp Рік тому +15

    She really came in with the energy of someone offended during an interview and was packing her things to go the entire time.

  • @dapperboi1828
    @dapperboi1828 Рік тому +322

    This dude is funny cuz he represents like what the actual “alpha” male would be and turns out he’s just a dude who works hard and is super normal. No snake oil bull shit about what men have to do. I disagree with this dude probably on what he said about me too and he’s prolly conservative, but outwardly this dude comes off as superbly normal.

    • @twocheezitz9182
      @twocheezitz9182 Рік тому +47

      it was also so funny when he was like "we are on national television" you can tell hes not some internet alpha hes just a real dude

    • @DaFifaKid
      @DaFifaKid Рік тому +17

      ​@@paulx6755 maybe its just because i am online and autisticly watch trends and shit, but the way that he GENUINELY had like no idea what the redpill is or things like that just show that he IS an alpha male lol.
      an alpha male isnt a male that copies what the other successful alpha males do, they just do THEMSELVES and dont care about others.
      also the way he is like willing to throw away a friendship to AGREE with a random internet guy who is adversarial to his real life friend under the guise of "i am a man of the truth" was maybe the most alpha male thing I have ever witnessed lol talk about integrity
      also when she was getting grilled about the non profit thing and her "golden seal" you could genuinely see the gears in tonys head turning and you could see on his face he was going "wait is this bitch just lying about her entire life" lol because you can tell tony will believe almost anything someone tells him because hes so positive. he probably genuinely thinks everything that jennelle has told him about her life is true and you can literally see him questioning it all lmao

    • @iep6228
      @iep6228 Рік тому +4

      @@twocheezitz9182I fucking lost it at the national television part. Or when he pointed at destiny and said: that right there sucks sick! But he somehow meant it in a good way? Absolute fucking legend.

    • @RobertEgbers
      @RobertEgbers Рік тому +1

      This post and replies are the golden take away from the convo

    • @DaFifaKid
      @DaFifaKid Рік тому

      @@iep6228 yeah hes so obliviously to internet culture that its amazing he so successful, hes seems like an idiot but i know he isnt.

  • @ArmoredSoul1
    @ArmoredSoul1 Рік тому +60

    Destiny didn't even have to do anything from a 50-50 shot at her being a scammer, and the room went from being uncertain she was a scammer, to being 70%+ sure she was a scammer based on her boxing with shadows lmao

    • @tesselate8nowait262
      @tesselate8nowait262 Рік тому +15

      But she wrote two books in 24hr

    • @swordyshield
      @swordyshield Рік тому

      @@tesselate8nowait262 naturally it is easier to write two books in that time and it's really hard to pack 3 days in advance.

    • @jayjonah83
      @jayjonah83 Рік тому +3

      I know literally nothing else about this woman, Based on this "debate" alone, this woman seems like a grifter. Tony Robbins "Investing in her company" turned out to be him giving her tickets to his seminars and then she tried to change the common understanding of what occurs when someone invests in your company. Extremely misleading. Couple that with the Tony guy having to tell the "therapist" that a disagreement isn't an attack gives credence that shes a just tiktok doc; sound bite deep; profound in 140 characters or less

  • @westonbeats
    @westonbeats Рік тому +269

    TONY IS SUCH A GIGACHAD. THE REAL MODERATOR.

    • @carlod5818
      @carlod5818 Рік тому +1

      defnetly the moderate in this conversation

    • @SlickWillHermsted
      @SlickWillHermsted Рік тому

      Got overbearing in the final 20%, fine guy tho

    • @deep_and_profound_topics
      @deep_and_profound_topics Рік тому +2

      nah, his incoherent self congratulatory rambling got genuinely hard to listen to very quickly. idk why everyone here is simping so hard for him. i guess bc he’s contradicting janelle lmao

    • @Kenpachi_White707
      @Kenpachi_White707 Рік тому +3

      ​@@deep_and_profound_topicsbecause he kept it unbiased. He stayed even. Unless somehow you saw something different?

    • @DavidJones-ot8qu
      @DavidJones-ot8qu Рік тому

      @@Kenpachi_White707i think if ur not socially retarded it’s pretty apparent that he’s being brand-friendly and trying to ride a fence. when ppl say shit like “THIS GUY HERE SUCKS DICK” and “well you know, he’s gay which i don’t like or support, but i love all ppl!” then u can usually infer they’re just being PC as to not get harmed by ramifications of their real opinions

  • @Onelovebeautie
    @Onelovebeautie Рік тому +9

    OMG he is like a Dad having a tough love argument with his daughter. She is literally making therapist and women look like unhinged people. It’s insane that she hurls insults towards Destiny but he makes a counterpoint mixed with sarcasm and she resorts to using the POC card. As if Destiny isn’t also a women of color 😳

  • @danielabernal4961
    @danielabernal4961 Рік тому +25

    1. Love Tony. Logical, nice, funny, and called her out on her bullshit.
    2. How is a sex therapist so judgmental over sexual orientation, open relationships, penis size, etc.
    3. I love how by her logical in investment, she goes to a restaurant, pays for her food, and that would be her investing in the restaurant business 😅

    • @sweetpoptart9486
      @sweetpoptart9486 Рік тому

      She not a actual therapist. never did a degree in it. She's just a coach.

  • @WolvesHart79
    @WolvesHart79 Рік тому +278

    The fact she thinks that her critics are just "guys that want to sleep with me" is just so narcissistic and out of touch of reality...

    • @reignmack
      @reignmack Рік тому

      the boobs is crazy though

    • @tehlitepker
      @tehlitepker Рік тому +25

      Yea, you can sleep with a plastic bag and will be the same.

    • @phillipoliverholtz9226
      @phillipoliverholtz9226 Рік тому +3

      Thats her clients, not her critics

    • @bryva
      @bryva Рік тому +1

      Going in that would be like beating a tent. But that's Sexology 102, online course comming soon.

    • @emperortgp2424
      @emperortgp2424 Рік тому +3

      dude that's like half of all women online lmao, considering their default response to criticism is any variation of "you'll never touch a woman" or "you're ugly/you look like an incel"

  • @shaun5047
    @shaun5047 Рік тому +44

    “How dare you say that about a single mom.” 😂 She has zero self awareness.

  • @KnezAlex
    @KnezAlex Рік тому +425

    This was the best guest of any panel ever created, Tony 2024!

    • @MyName-vg8yu
      @MyName-vg8yu Рік тому +22

      Omg when he genuinely asked destiny to play fortnite with his grandson 😂😂😂

    • @AVspectre
      @AVspectre Рік тому +3

      Take Tony for chicken and waffles!

    • @RX7Qball
      @RX7Qball Рік тому +2

      "That one right there, sucks dick" I almost spat my coffee out. Dude is hilarious.

    • @sleep8646
      @sleep8646 Рік тому

      My favorite part was when he went to get a drink, came back and was exasperated because "Thai" Dolezal was doing another random personal attack

  • @oX313Xo
    @oX313Xo Рік тому +5

    I don't know this Tony guy but dude made me tear up with his question "so a pssy that looks like roast beef can be fix to be the perfect little pssy?" Trying to hold in the out loud laughter and tears from that xD

  • @khaleddoss1047
    @khaleddoss1047 Рік тому +7

    Props to Alex for staying neutral, bro kept catching strays. Apparently that blank stoic stare makes him look as threatening as an easter island statue. Keep that fire coming brother @playingwithfirechannel

  • @DorkoDoes
    @DorkoDoes Рік тому +66

    She’s actually calling her nanny haha this lady is so defensive and insecure

    • @noraozer2800
      @noraozer2800 Рік тому +5

      That was so cringe I’m dying

    • @jonny-dp2qr
      @jonny-dp2qr Рік тому +2

      She’s so out of place here

    • @johnbrooks756
      @johnbrooks756 Рік тому +6

      Most impressive part was her calling her right after her phone died

  • @bravingbrivatebrian
    @bravingbrivatebrian Рік тому +60

    Man I HATE people who do something and IMMEDIATELY turn around and deny it

    • @RolaiEckolo
      @RolaiEckolo Рік тому +12

      ​@@natediaz1863 That's a people thing, not a woman thing. Guys lie their asses off when they do something embarrassing.

    • @Awesomeficationify
      @Awesomeficationify Рік тому +2

      @@RolaiEckolo shh don't tell him that wtf! That's our #1 cheerleader.

    • @BattieGames
      @BattieGames Рік тому +1

      ​@@RolaiEckolothat guy was born in 1863 look at his username. Times were different back then. Can't blame him

    • @niken538
      @niken538 Рік тому

      @@natediaz1863you hate women buddy, you might not be as hetero as you think

    • @redpilledchauvinist3638
      @redpilledchauvinist3638 Рік тому

      ​@@natediaz1863Yes

  • @dragonsstani3494
    @dragonsstani3494 Рік тому +175

    Watching Tony realize how screwed up Janelle truly is was a once in a lifetime experience

  • @Bobbyblack6
    @Bobbyblack6 Рік тому +17

    This is the 'highly disagreeable and combative woman' that the red pill talk about. A rare find, but this what you get when you teach someone that they can't be wrong and they have the ability to mental gymnastics their way out of every single bit of criticism. A compulsive liar and a true narcissist. 'Bids farewell and hangs up call' - > 'sorry my phone died' two seconds later after she changed her mind.
    To be honest, she doesn't think she's a scammer because in her world she genuinely feels like she's helping people. But her world isn't based in reality, she accepts only information that supports her view point and has built her reality in that. And you'll never be able to convincer her otherwise because if you try, you're a hater or a privileged white male apparently.

    • @addorsubtract650
      @addorsubtract650 11 місяців тому

      Btw she isn't even really red pill or conservative for that matter. She saw how famous Tate become and immediately started to repeat his talking points. She is just an opportunist and a scammer. And a combative woman as well like u said. Also she used to be a hardcore pornstar as well! The redpill is pretty clear about how negatively such women are viewed, yet she leaves that part out conveniently.

  • @ridethewavz
    @ridethewavz Рік тому +24

    What an awesome fucking dude Tony is. Holy shit it was such a breath of fresh air to hear a level headed, reasonable, empathetic normal person have a voice in these discussions. Like many others have stated, he's the true "alpha" if such a thing even exists..feel so bad the dude has to deal with this insane woman, could def do better, she must be into some real real kink shit that works for him...oh well

  • @knifetoucher
    @knifetoucher Рік тому +32

    NGL Tony was a much better moderator than the actual moderator lmao

  • @Vradica
    @Vradica Рік тому +67

    I don't get why noone calls Jenelle out for the vagina change thing.. Sure, hormons and all that shit make womens body change.. But the change is absolutely minimal and for most people 99.9999% it'll have no relevance whatsoever.
    It was so irrelevant, and she made it a much bigger thing than it is.. With how she explained it, it sounds like it's a complete remodel, gspot and everything, it's insane

    • @stoneheart_raven
      @stoneheart_raven Рік тому +14

      I wished they had a Gynecologist on this call. almost every time she answers a question it is either personal attacks and talking nonsense. She has a massive chip on her shoulders.

    • @四as
      @四as Рік тому +2

      ​@@stoneheart_raventhis is her personal pref- …opinion.

    • @rrai-
      @rrai- Рік тому

      It is true that the more $3x u have the looser u are though. And it is true that women try to act like thats not the case so men dont preffer virgins. And yes it is true that the more partners a woman has the bigger d she has encountered and been with for a long time. So the looser she is. And promiscuous women obviously have mire $3x. They never stop. Making a non promiscuous woman tighter. And it is true that women wanna deny that so once again men dont have standards they dont fit. So in the end, destiny just is better at arguing, but she was right

    • @Walmartgimp
      @Walmartgimp Рік тому +1

      You dont know about the semi-monthly yoni reupholster ???? lmfao what a virgin.

    • @HRRRRRDRRRRR
      @HRRRRRDRRRRR Рік тому

      @@stoneheart_raven Oh I would pay to see her meltdown when a medical professional straight up refutes her bullshit. Facts and science are the enemy of woo woo scammers.

  • @gleekthemonkey4570
    @gleekthemonkey4570 Рік тому +91

    Let it be known that Destiny did not tag Janelle. Now we know what a horrible person he is.

  • @wannes9125
    @wannes9125 Рік тому +7

    I'm halfway in
    Usually people that call themselves centrist are the most non-centrist people on the planet, but this guy sounds very genuine, has been very fair and very back and forth with who he agrees with and he sounds pretty reasonable
    Idk where they found this guy and at first I was like "here we go", but I'm pleasantly surprised

  • @Tyreeceholmes
    @Tyreeceholmes Рік тому +5

    This is a real person, who had real sex and is raising s real human child.
    Humanity needs help

  • @FeetSmellGreat
    @FeetSmellGreat Рік тому +91

    For someone who props up a nuclear family style power structure relationships, she bluepills hard when it comes to throwing "white privelage" "her biracial son" or her "hardships as a single woman who deserves a medal for getting where she got to today" in their faces lmao

    • @drearmouse9510
      @drearmouse9510 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, that biracial comment was cringe as fuck. @_@

    • @Aura_baby
      @Aura_baby Рік тому +2

      Tf is a nuclear family power structure relationship?
      Nuclear families aren't built on power structures... so what is it?
      When mommy or daddy says what to do?

    • @FeetSmellGreat
      @FeetSmellGreat Рік тому +5

      @@Aura_baby wow if you didnt understand the comment youre really choosing to brother lol her whole thing is two parent familys where the kids obey the mother amd the mother obeys the father, thats like definitionally a nuclear family, and happens to describe a power structure thag was the focus of the disagreement. Now that kindergarden is over maybe you can understand that her having that belief is already hypocryrical before throwing the sjw type virtue signalling at destiny.

    • @Aura_baby
      @Aura_baby Рік тому

      @alexbaker7525
      noun: nuclear family; plural noun: nuclear families
      a couple and their dependent children, regarded as a basic social unit.
      From wiki: A nuclear family, elementary family, atomic family, cereal-packet family[1] or conjugal family is a family group consisting of parents and their children (one or more), typically living in one home residence.
      These are 2 basic explanations. Nowhere will you find "power structure" in the literal basic form of a social organization/primary group.
      Now that kindergarten is *actually* over, I made the comment because I wanted to understand if you actually thought nuclear families were power structures, so I asked to clarify.
      It seems you do, and thus puts you in a position where you can't really criticize a position you are strawmanning or perhaps you worded it wrong and meant to say "props up power structure style relationships in a nuclear family" which would make more sense to what you are saying.
      Language matters so we can better communicate, not obfuscate.

    • @jonny-dp2qr
      @jonny-dp2qr Рік тому +2

      @@Aura_babybro if you’re gonna ask a dumbass question like this make sure u do it genuinely.
      It’s almost like saying “TF is an air mattress?”

  • @soumilroy
    @soumilroy Рік тому +29

    I love how Tony is like Wtf is the red pill movement? Goes to show real go getters handling their business in real world than roasting their brains on toxic online communities.

  • @jaredmello
    @jaredmello Рік тому +110

    This woman’s narcissism is on full display, constantly playing the victim. Giving me some good content ideas.

  • @BNezzy
    @BNezzy Рік тому +3

    i hope this woman imploded her entire business because of this "debate" and Tony got as far away from her as possible.

  • @DudokX
    @DudokX Рік тому +2

    Remember the debate from like 7 years ago where some dude brought his lawyer friend only for him to agree with Destiny? Really similar energy here.

  • @storysurgeon5922
    @storysurgeon5922 Рік тому +223

    'Micro-Penis' lol this shits too funny. Always with the body shaming the minute it can be weaponized

    • @markstriker925
      @markstriker925 Рік тому +31

      And she would be offended if people made fun of her boobs.

    • @tpolutts3309
      @tpolutts3309 Рік тому +25

      ​@@markstriker925
      In a previous talk destiny made a comment about club girls and lip fillers. Janelle got defensive very quickly about that.

    • @superjosifus
      @superjosifus Рік тому

      Sex coach btw

    • @rreprah9515
      @rreprah9515 Рік тому +9

      Funny because she complained about Destiny mentioning her implants too at the beginning. Shes a remedial.

    • @Gabbro_1
      @Gabbro_1 Рік тому

      Odd criticism to make too, seeing as Destiny's dick has been on the internet for over a decade.

  • @jwalton1915
    @jwalton1915 Рік тому +26

    This Tony dude feels like a real life gta character 😂

    • @drearmouse9510
      @drearmouse9510 Рік тому +1

      Omg! Right in the middle of reading that my mind just went, "Yep!" So true. xD

    • @oXexify
      @oXexify Рік тому +2

      The Ballad of Based Tony

    • @jwalton1915
      @jwalton1915 Рік тому

      @@oXexify 😂

  • @Kan-ova
    @Kan-ova Рік тому +77

    Saw this live, destiny doesn’t even need to say much for his opponents to bury themselves nowadays.

    • @0GieLongshank
      @0GieLongshank Рік тому +5

      Right, he and Alex look like spectators after 24 min. Until she started with the tagging 😂

  • @juice_leeee
    @juice_leeee Рік тому +7

    I had entirely too much fun watching Tony and Destiny just ask questions that end up triggering her lol

  • @thecheebsy
    @thecheebsy Рік тому +543

    I love when fake therapists aka “life/sex coaches whatever” get exposed. Janelle is insufferable with her pseudoscience and judgmental attitude. She absolutely deserves this.

    • @stepfaniehawkins205
      @stepfaniehawkins205 Рік тому

      She deserves a real SmackDown, the kind that only a woman could give her. Sometimes men are just too nice to these stupid women. Only a woman knows how to knock a bich down a few pegs...... Properly!

    • @chris_tine1430
      @chris_tine1430 Рік тому +30

      Yeah a sex coach saying bi guys cant exist 👌🏻😅

    • @Altitudes
      @Altitudes Рік тому +17

      I think she might be one of those who's genuinely deluded about it and thinks she's actually an expert in something, but it's the little things like the throwing in random words and then going "That's Sanskrit for penis". Any time someone throws out an obscure term and it makes no sense as to why they wouldn't use a common term. She doesn't give any technical reason for it, it's completely unnecessary, it's just there to obscure that she's not saying anything interesting and make her sound educated.

    • @chris_tine1430
      @chris_tine1430 Рік тому +18

      I loved that she completely ignored the "male g spot" being up their ass when saying a man doesnt have an "inside sexual" whatever thing she was going on about

    • @thunder6742
      @thunder6742 Рік тому +6

      My favorite part was when she said, "You don't have a vagina, you don't know how it works." I would like her to say that in the face of a male OB-GYN, lololol.

  • @trl2342
    @trl2342 11 місяців тому +1

    *Tony from off screen* "THAT'S ANOTHER ATTACK!" XD Had me rolling.

  • @reignmack
    @reignmack Рік тому +67

    she wrote 2 books in one day but takes 3 days to pack her bags

    • @四as
      @四as Рік тому +8

      🤯 holy shit you're absolutely right!

  • @lemondrop201
    @lemondrop201 Рік тому +131

    Tony came off pretty level headed and open minded. Props to him.

    • @Shoxie_g
      @Shoxie_g Рік тому +2

      He literally said that he thinks being gay is wrong so I don't know what open-mindedness you are talking about

    • @BNezzy
      @BNezzy Рік тому +13

      and he is entitled to thinking that and living this life that way just like how you probably want to live your life as gay. He said its wrong but doesn't hate people for being gay. what am i missing?@@Shoxie_g

    • @ImpulsiveLimbo
      @ImpulsiveLimbo Рік тому +14

      ​@@Shoxie_ghe thinks it's wrong personally but he isn't spewing it out at gay people shaming them is the point. He has an opinion but he isn't making other people suffer over it

    • @tylerbooker6498
      @tylerbooker6498 Рік тому +1

      ​@Shoxie_g here comes the straight savior 🥴

    • @roostre5254
      @roostre5254 Рік тому +11

      @@Shoxie_g He literally said, "everyone has the right to live the way the live." when talking about gay people. How is that not open-minded? Maybe you are the close-minded one.

  • @slurve0h
    @slurve0h Рік тому +38

    After the second debate, I swore I wouldn't subject myself to more of this torture, but alas, here I am...

  • @valrymlexeous6091
    @valrymlexeous6091 2 дні тому +1

    ... I love this. Her making claims then her backup calling her out EVERY time.

  • @Dara-ih6jq
    @Dara-ih6jq Рік тому +2

    The reason she feels like she’s up against 3 men is because women really do tend to have a pack mentality, especially when they’re all in a conversation together and a man is around. Like this unspoken thing where women always unite against the guy if they have numbers lol. And because that’s how women are she just assumes that men are the same way and that’s why she feels that way even though that’s not what’s happening because men are for most. Solitary and men are more likely to just honestly disagree with each other than they are to group up and set aside their differences just because a woman is around Men tend to stick to their guns, regardless of who’s around and she doesn’t understand that. She is basically projecting the way women would behave if it was three women and one man.

  • @metalspy
    @metalspy Рік тому +26

    Imagine we had someone like Tony instead of Q. For Kick or Keep he would have all the connections and he is perfect as a Support Character. Man.

    • @unreale2695
      @unreale2695 Рік тому

      Trueee Q really needs to learn how to not be so fucking annoying

    • @deep_and_profound_topics
      @deep_and_profound_topics Рік тому

      absolutely not lmfaoo are you on drugs?!

    • @DavidJones-ot8qu
      @DavidJones-ot8qu Рік тому +1

      every single conversation would be filled with random and nonsensical interruptions

  • @facejobby
    @facejobby Рік тому +16

    You can't convince me that this rich guy wasn't a high level DGG plant.

  • @hippopotoftea
    @hippopotoftea Рік тому +32

    At the start I dismissed Tony, and I was wrong, as he was a really cool dude in this show, I really grew to like him. I hope Destiny games with his son.

  • @CrawfishDeluxe
    @CrawfishDeluxe Рік тому +6

    Jannelle is living proof that being a woman does not make you an expert on women's bodies, or sex and relationships in general.
    Women who are in steady dating relationships and marriages are having sex WAY more than single women who are fucking around with different dudes.
    And the whole "your vagina gets loose if you fuck a lot" is just a classic troll. It's completely fair for Destiny to assume she's making a joke; even now it's hard to tell whether she's clowning or if she actually believes this shit.
    Ironically, I'm really not that confident that Jannelle is having a lot of sex.

  • @Jacqueline888
    @Jacqueline888 10 місяців тому +1

    her marriage counseling retreats work because the guys realize how much worse it could be

  • @ryohio4706
    @ryohio4706 Рік тому +32

    I hope Destiny talks to Tony more in the future

  • @questioneverything8572
    @questioneverything8572 Рік тому +15

    "There's no such thing as bisexual" .... There you have it, your sex therapist mwahahaha

    • @rmercedes971
      @rmercedes971 Рік тому +1

      And 2 minutes later “I never said there’s no such a thing as bisexual… it’s Just, I’m my opinion, because men’s thing is on the outside”. 😂😂😂 this woman is unbelievable 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @itsneoneon
    @itsneoneon Рік тому +66

    Tony was such a sweetheart. Dude was chill af and was ACTUALLY listening which was really surprising. At the beginning I was worried about Tony cuz I thought him trying to calm things down he was going to cuck the content but he was based af. This Jennelle lady tho.... she actually seems very much like scamah lmao

  • @JustSherries
    @JustSherries Рік тому +2

    This backfired horribly. She thought he was going to be an echo chamber. She's a wimp!

  • @demiseduke8000
    @demiseduke8000 Рік тому +3

    Fuck it, I'm Tony-pilled

  • @XanGervin
    @XanGervin Рік тому +12

    She’s not Redpill. Plus, she keeps using “I’m a single mother” excuse for whenever they disagree and she acts likes she’s a “survivor”. It was her choice and her mistakes that let her to being a single mother. No accountability.

  • @TimberW073
    @TimberW073 Рік тому +19

    Poor Nathan always catching strays 😂

    • @jaxsmith1204
      @jaxsmith1204 Рік тому +9

      He was the epitome of the 50 cent meme “what’d she say F- me for??”

  • @vesuvius2444
    @vesuvius2444 Рік тому +59

    Jenelle: You're a loser that plays videogames, I'm an expert on sex.
    Tony: You play videogames? You should play Fortnite with my son.
    Lol

  • @andrewfolsom3836
    @andrewfolsom3836 Рік тому +3

    One thing I've learned from personal debates and watching debates is you can't threaten to leave and then stay. If you're done you're done. Otherwise you're just owning yourself

    • @TR13400
      @TR13400 Рік тому +1

      And she did it like 5 times lol